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Title: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 09:52:21 AM download brawlbox modset 4.1 (Fixed Bugs) (http://brawldev.googlecode.com/files/BrawlBox.zip)
Rydia's tutorial (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=16579.0) Quote from: bero Change Log of Modset4.1 * Added a button "Paste only Trans" to Animation editor * PAT0 editing function(test) * Drag-And-Drop Animating(THANKS,KRYAL!) Draggable Bones: Quote from: Kryal;11604757 Okay, it's done (for the most part) Lots of changes yes, but our focus is on: Maths / Matrix / Vector3 GLPanel / GLContext / ModelEditControl All the work takes place in ModelEditControl: Take note of the PostRender event, which renders the rotation orb when a bone node is selected.
Take note of the MouseDown event, which handles bone node targeting.
Part 2: If no bone is selected use hit-detection
The MouseMove event is where the rotations are updated:
Some things to watch out for: Bone scaling may affect how these points are converted to local-space. I ditched the Quaternion method because conversion is a nightmare. However, converting a matrix to euler angles can be problematic. You may notice that the rotations look fine, but the angles are odd. This particularly happens to the y-angle. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835&&page=25 :happy: Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: hughie on November 13, 2010, 10:06:49 AM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler?
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 10:10:34 AM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier.Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Soverign on November 13, 2010, 10:19:27 AM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier. :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: VanillaPuff on November 13, 2010, 10:39:26 AM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier. :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af: :af: :af: :af: :af2: :af2: :af2: :af2: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :yay: :yay: :yay: Ok enough smiles. I haven't read anything but animating is easier and i'll read it soon though. But will rotation with the numbers still be viable? I know theres a preview release...hmm....someone should make a video o.o Draggable bones! YESZ :falcon: Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: BlackJax96 on November 13, 2010, 11:19:28 AM Draggable bones is so much win!!! But there's no undo button :(
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Hollow on November 13, 2010, 11:29:21 AM When is it going to be relased?
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 13, 2010, 11:36:31 AM Random advice time.
If you are using the newest modset and you find the angle value to be really odd(as in too far away from 0), You can fix it. Look at the value and if it's more than 360 or -360 Add or subtract 360 as long as it will get you closer to zero and fix transitions..... unless the previous keyframe has a ridiculously high value. For example: If I get -400, I add 360 and will end up with -40. The bone's rotation won't appear to be changed, and the transition is much smoother. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 11:49:24 AM yeah, there are still bugs (Especially rotation I've noticed) and I'm not sure when the official release will come.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: hughie on November 13, 2010, 11:51:14 AM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier.Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Akiba Red on November 13, 2010, 12:43:24 PM Yay! Imports from other games, prepare to flood Brawl. >:D
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 01:44:43 PM WELL, I played around with it for a few minutes. click a line wrapped around the circumference the sphere to change its rotation; Red=X axis, Green=Y axis, and blue= Z axis. you can also simply click the sphere and control all three at once, but I found this difficult to control. I have no idea what the yellow circle around the sphere is for, it also changes all rotation values, but its limited and also hard to control.
I assumed that this would also be able to control the translation values, but it appears that it doesn't. I'm a little disappointed at this, as this is what I was excited for. It would make more sense if when the bone was selected, it could be dragged along the x and y axises, and perhaps a button held such as ctrl or shift would allow the z axis to be changed. and maybe another toggle button to change from rotation to translation. I might play around with this myself to add this, but my C# is rotten. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: VanillaPuff on November 13, 2010, 03:08:37 PM So I got around to testing this and it was pretty cool :D. But totally confusing :(
I've never actually figured out which axis is which in the 0.63v version of animating. Very interesting. Can't wait for an official release. Yay! Imports from other games, prepare to flood Brawl. >:D ^This^ EDIT:When previewing imported models from other games, only the first bone will show up and the models is unmovable :( Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: BlackJax96 on November 13, 2010, 03:19:42 PM The model import I'm working on shows all the bones... and this update reminds me a lot of 3ds max :O
I think the problem with imports is added bones. Open a model without any bones added and it should work Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 13, 2010, 03:26:25 PM Yup. Also BACK UP YOUR MOTION ETC AND YOUR ANIMATION.
If you knew what happened to me and Lyn, you would know why. THankfully, I managed to recover the animation. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: VanillaPuff on November 13, 2010, 03:39:24 PM The model import I'm working on shows all the bones... and this update reminds me a lot of 3ds max :O I think the problem with imports is added bones. Open a model without any bones added and it should work Really? That sucks though :(. Well I look forward to it still :D Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 03:40:25 PM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier.And of course added bones won't work. They're simply tacked on pieces of hex in the model, they aren't really a part of the model. It isn't as simple as being able to add bones by simply adding a piece of hex into the model. Bone injection isn't going to happen anytime soon. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: VanillaPuff on November 13, 2010, 03:55:11 PM I never knew much about this, but will it make bone editing simpler? yes, any type of animation editing, model imports, etc will be much less tedious and far easier.Are you talking to me about the model import no animating thing? Because the post you quote never say anything about perfect :( Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Velen on November 13, 2010, 04:02:21 PM Honestly. I am a little nervous about using V0.64. Cause that means that interpolation with the bones will be a problem, and in my experience, it tends to destroy animations or make them hard to manage.
I may be a scrub for saying this, but I think I would still be more comfortable with V0.62b. At least until whatever glitches there may be have been fixed up. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 13, 2010, 04:15:29 PM When is it going to be relased? next week this will be released with PAT0 editing for new custom stage icons for PW's new code.Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: splatnic on November 13, 2010, 07:22:55 PM Hey, is anyone else experiencing the problem that the brawbox v.64 doesn't save properly? If so, is there a fix for it? thanks.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Fliptocat on November 13, 2010, 11:41:57 PM ^Do you mean it corrupts the files? Because that's what happens to me.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: dingo on November 14, 2010, 03:57:33 AM It previewed a model from ToS just fine, but apparently can't preview a vertexed Ike. At least the Cloud or Naruto vertex hacks can't open.
Normal Ike is fine. I wonder if other characters have the same problem. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 14, 2010, 04:29:47 AM http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835
4.0 opens the Naruto vertex just fine. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ForOhFor Error on November 14, 2010, 08:46:24 AM So...... how is PAT0 editing done, exactly?
XD Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 14, 2010, 11:06:51 AM [url]http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835[/url] 4.0 opens the Naruto vertex just fine. wow that was quick xD .64 was buggy because it was only supposed to be a preview of the draggable bone feature. I assume this is a more official release and those bugs have been fixed. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 3.3.5? is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: BlackJax96 on November 14, 2010, 11:44:00 AM Looks like you gotta update the OP and title
It lags pretty bad in the model editor for me... :( I'll just use v0.63d for now Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: dingo on November 14, 2010, 12:37:42 PM It lags pretty bad in the model editor for me... :( ^This After swapping the animation and moving the bones by dragging slightly, interpolation kicked in on top of rotations spiking like 720%. I guess I just suck with this since now I have to fix and redo everything in .62b to avoid all the problems ._. I'll stick to just swapping and fixing with .62b. I'd rather not chance things doing that and spending way more time with three steps (swap & fix translation, adjust rotations, go over everything done to make sure it works right) and just stick to swapping and fixing translation with some minor tweaks for legs on ground level. Interpolation becomes a big problem for characters at random times anyway. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on November 15, 2010, 08:14:45 AM I have an idea that MIGHT be possible (I posted this at smashboards too) for brawlbox, it would take some hard coding, and maybe adding a simple animation program to the works. (like a simple flash program or rather) But it might work.
What you do is preview your character in the model preview image like normal, but you only load two animations. 1: The characters wait1 animation 2: The character animation you want to port (Say ikes up B on sonic or something like that) Once you have those open you would right click the animation you want to 'port' and an option window would come up. Asking you to load a wait animation from the character you want to port it over to. After you hit 'okay" on the menu, since brawlbox itself knows how each individual character animates (including sonic) it would create a new animatioin from scratch (this could take a while depending on the character/animation, the other character that said animation is being ported to, and the length of animation.) and save it as a different file which you are asked to name uppon completion. You open up the preview again after closing it then when you load the new animation created by brawlbox, it's exactly like the animation on the other character you took it from! Well besides the fact that it starts and ends with the other character (Sonic instead of ike) 's wait animations. Soooo possible...yes...no....maybe?? Either that or you could make it where you could copy a frame from one animation, and starting from the other characters wait animation paste it and brawlbox would make the right adjustments automatically. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Link40 on November 15, 2010, 09:52:52 AM What are pat0 exactly ? Because if I remember thanks to it we will be able to add custom icons in the SSS to ue with P_W's Stage expansion code.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Not A Frog on November 18, 2010, 05:44:29 PM Broken Download.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 18, 2010, 05:54:52 PM Try this one then.
http://www.mediafire.com/?61mtbcgqv3la19s 4.1 link that fixed a bug of sorts.... Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Not A Frog on November 18, 2010, 06:32:50 PM It worked! Thanks!
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Bero on November 19, 2010, 06:45:44 PM I have an idea that MIGHT be possible (I posted this at smashboards too) for brawlbox, it would take some hard coding, and maybe adding a simple animation program to the works. (like a simple flash program or rather) But it might work. I think it's possible. But I'm tired now, so I'll do that in a month.What you do is preview your character in the model preview image like normal, but you only load two animations. 1: The characters wait1 animation 2: The character animation you want to port (Say ikes up B on sonic or something like that) Once you have those open you would right click the animation you want to 'port' and an option window would come up. Asking you to load a wait animation from the character you want to port it over to. After you hit 'okay" on the menu, since brawlbox itself knows how each individual character animates (including sonic) it would create a new animatioin from scratch (this could take a while depending on the character/animation, the other character that said animation is being ported to, and the length of animation.) and save it as a different file which you are asked to name uppon completion. You open up the preview again after closing it then when you load the new animation created by brawlbox, it's exactly like the animation on the other character you took it from! Well besides the fact that it starts and ends with the other character (Sonic instead of ike) 's wait animations. Soooo possible...yes...no....maybe?? Either that or you could make it where you could copy a frame from one animation, and starting from the other characters wait animation paste it and brawlbox would make the right adjustments automatically. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on November 19, 2010, 07:01:29 PM I have an idea that MIGHT be possible (I posted this at smashboards too) for brawlbox, it would take some hard coding, and maybe adding a simple animation program to the works. (like a simple flash program or rather) But it might work. I think it's possible. But I'm tired now, so I'll do that in a month.What you do is preview your character in the model preview image like normal, but you only load two animations. 1: The characters wait1 animation 2: The character animation you want to port (Say ikes up B on sonic or something like that) Once you have those open you would right click the animation you want to 'port' and an option window would come up. Asking you to load a wait animation from the character you want to port it over to. After you hit 'okay" on the menu, since brawlbox itself knows how each individual character animates (including sonic) it would create a new animatioin from scratch (this could take a while depending on the character/animation, the other character that said animation is being ported to, and the length of animation.) and save it as a different file which you are asked to name uppon completion. You open up the preview again after closing it then when you load the new animation created by brawlbox, it's exactly like the animation on the other character you took it from! Well besides the fact that it starts and ends with the other character (Sonic instead of ike) 's wait animations. Soooo possible...yes...no....maybe?? Either that or you could make it where you could copy a frame from one animation, and starting from the other characters wait animation paste it and brawlbox would make the right adjustments automatically. Sweet :3 just imagine the posibilities! Oh and what about the ability to load three seperate animations, Say peaches side B animations, and then create one new animation in a similar way? Not sure if that'd be useful, but heck, why not? :s Also might I request drag and drop animation for 'translation' too? you could switch it on and off with a button :) Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 19, 2010, 07:21:28 PM Having drag and drop affect translation would cause a lot more trouble than it's worth.
There's a Only translation button for paste that can help. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on November 19, 2010, 07:39:01 PM Huh...that's too bad XP
BTW any reports for Lyn :D Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 20, 2010, 10:37:35 AM Having drag and drop affect translation would cause a lot more trouble than it's worth. why is this?Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on November 20, 2010, 10:39:06 AM Having drag and drop affect translation would cause a lot more trouble than it's worth. why is this?Yeah, you could do it real easy, Right click the bone for drag and drop translation and left click the bone for drag and drop rotation :D easy fix? :s Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 20, 2010, 10:44:08 AM Having drag and drop affect translation would cause a lot more trouble than it's worth. why is this?Yeah, you could do it real easy, Right click the bone for drag and drop translation and left click the bone for drag and drop rotation :D easy fix? :s if when the bone was selected, it could be dragged along the x and y axises, and perhaps a button held such as ctrl or shift would allow the z axis to be changed. and maybe another toggle button to change from rotation to translation. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Link40 on November 20, 2010, 11:51:58 AM Nobody answered my question :oshi:
Does the pat0 support allow custom icons to use with Phantom Wing's Stage Expansion Code ? Because I think I read something about it somewhere... Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ADJSonic on November 20, 2010, 12:06:48 PM someone please elabarate i have no clue XD
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 20, 2010, 12:10:24 PM Nobody answered my question :oshi: Does the pat0 support allow custom icons to use with Phantom Wing's Stage Expansion Code ? Because I think I read something about it somewhere... Its supposed to, but I've yet to see it work. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835&page=29 Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: dingo on November 21, 2010, 03:41:58 AM Drag and Drop Translation = Stage Hacker Preference
Drag and Drop Rotation = Animation Hacker Preference Stage hackers would prefer drag and drop for translations. That's why it would be suggested. Though not anywhere as annoying as bone rotation for animations, I'm sure it would make stage hackers quite a bit happier. I'm saying that based on the fact that I hate the draggable bones and interpolation. Makes character animation not worth doing for me. :P Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Bero on November 21, 2010, 04:29:20 AM Drag and Drop Translation = Stage Hacker Preference Oh,is drag and drop rotation annoying and do you hate it?Drag and Drop Rotation = Animation Hacker Preference Stage hackers would prefer drag and drop for translations. That's why it would be suggested. Though not anywhere as annoying as bone rotation for animations, I'm sure it would make stage hackers quite a bit happier. I'm saying that based on the fact that I hate the draggable bones and interpolation. Makes character animation not worth doing for me. :P I advise you not to use Modset. :P Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: dingo on November 21, 2010, 05:02:33 AM Oh,is drag and drop rotation annoying and do you hate it? I advise you not to use Modset. :P Aside from the constant random 360 and 720 rotation spikes I got that made me spend 4 times as long on something simple from me obviously doing something wrong, I love it. xP Not to my preference with the interpolation. The rotation spikes could be avoided. The interpolation sucks more then anything at times. Any chance of this modset without the interpolation? Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Ӄit ßallarɖ on November 21, 2010, 05:19:14 AM I made a video guide if that helps any... http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=16579.0
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 21, 2010, 10:14:27 AM I made a video guide if that helps any... [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=16579.0[/url] ah, thats what the yellow circle does. Nice tutorial. And Bero, would you like to make your own thread here similar to the one @ smashboards? Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ForOhFor Error on November 21, 2010, 10:43:16 AM Drag and Drop Translation = Stage Hacker Preference Drag and Drop Rotation = Animation Hacker Preference Stage hackers would prefer drag and drop for translations. That's why it would be suggested. Though not anywhere as annoying as bone rotation for animations, I'm sure it would make stage hackers quite a bit happier. I'm saying that based on the fact that I hate the draggable bones and interpolation. Makes character animation not worth doing for me. :P What I would prefer is seeing all of the models (like in collision editor) while still being able to edit the position (like in model previewer). It would save a huge amount of trouble. Oh, and viewing all of the models animated at the same time (instead of one at once) Probably hard to do, but it'd be worth it for stage hackers. Could you do that, Bero? Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on November 21, 2010, 10:47:19 AM Drag and Drop Translation = Stage Hacker Preference Oh, and viewing all of the models animated at the same time (instead of one at once)Drag and Drop Rotation = Animation Hacker Preference Stage hackers would prefer drag and drop for translations. That's why it would be suggested. Though not anywhere as annoying as bone rotation for animations, I'm sure it would make stage hackers quite a bit happier. I'm saying that based on the fact that I hate the draggable bones and interpolation. Makes character animation not worth doing for me. :P Probably hard to do, but it'd be worth it for stage hackers. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Bero on November 21, 2010, 03:38:59 PM @RydiaFromFF2
At last,tutorial for modset! Thank you! @LordNOaH Umm... I think it's good to have a thread about modset here,but it's a bit hard for me to look after it... @ForOhFor Error That will use large amount of memory. I think it's not hard though. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: KingJigglypuff on November 30, 2010, 07:19:06 AM This is going to really help me on things.
And I'm not sure if this is on topic or not, but I have two suggestions: -More BRSAR compatibility. -Have an "Undo" option. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Ӄit ßallarɖ on November 30, 2010, 10:00:46 AM . oh GOD do we ever need an undo button... Hell undo 1 step is enough for me.-Have an "Undo" option. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on December 01, 2010, 05:20:38 PM For the draggable bones if you don't like what you've done and you're still holding the mouse hit exit and it will return to its original rotation.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: gamerpaul611 on December 25, 2010, 11:44:58 AM We need an Undo button
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on January 01, 2011, 06:25:47 PM Hey there, any progress on my animation porting idea? :s
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 01, 2011, 06:39:21 PM any note on adding new file formats??
REFF REFT more info here: http://tcll5850.webfreehosting.net/sbf.htm there's a bunch of them... note: this data has to be UD'd (it is very old) EDIT: if anyone has used HexEdit before, I have a template on the REFT format :) Code: <?xml version="1.0"?> ask me if you don't know what to do with this ;) but I've finally completed it... there shouldn't be no errors in it btw... :/ Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 01, 2011, 10:19:29 PM oh yea...
something else I wanted to add... a little something for CHR0 files... v0.63b is the only one to support this, it seems to be broken in all the following versions... I liked being able to open a chr0 in brbx and select a bone, to have a list of all the key-frames and bone positions displayed on the right side... like this: (https://jump.matthewevan.xyz/i2p/pxbcwxbhxj2wusliwhrb6ym4vcwpihztuf2tfjejrcdzqrmnjuoa.b32/_/eb32ca0b89936408ec7eaa811134e47bf4175046c3640ea48f297ac1203630c4) if you could please add that back in, and have support for quaternions as well, it'd be much appreciated. :) (I'd suggest adding a selection flip-switch button (eular/quat)) I ask for quat because Blender doesn't support a eular bone animation system... :srs: (when inputing exact coords through the IPO editor) it's quite a hastle having to DL a euler to quat converter that gives coords the just twists the mesh into not what brbx displays when animating... Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Nuke on January 01, 2011, 11:10:42 PM @Tcll: sorry to break it to ya but the creators of BB are on a different forum, smashboards to be exact... Hopefully some one from here that has a account on smashboards can pass your work on to them.. It seems you've worked hard and I wouldn't want that to go to waste :-\
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 02, 2011, 08:40:04 AM @Tcll: sorry to break it to ya but the creators of BB are on a different forum, smashboards to be exact... Hopefully some one from here that has a account on smashboards can pass your work on to them.. It seems you've worked hard and I wouldn't want that to go to waste :-\ lol thanx :>.>: I have an SWF acct... mind linking me to the thread :) I'll link this thread there ;) and I hate to break facts, but this was actually an easy task XD Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 02, 2011, 02:49:51 PM @Tcll: sorry to break it to ya but the creators of BB are on a different forum, smashboards to be exact... Hopefully some one from here that has a account on smashboards can pass your work on to them.. It seems you've worked hard and I wouldn't want that to go to waste :-\ lol thanx :>.>: I have an SWF acct... mind linking me to the thread :) I'll link this thread there ;) and I hate to break facts, but this was actually an easy task XD TCLL http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835 <3 Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 02, 2011, 03:42:36 PM @Tcll: sorry to break it to ya but the creators of BB are on a different forum, smashboards to be exact... Hopefully some one from here that has a account on smashboards can pass your work on to them.. It seems you've worked hard and I wouldn't want that to go to waste :-\ lol thanx :>.>: I have an SWF acct... mind linking me to the thread :) I'll link this thread there ;) and I hate to break facts, but this was actually an easy task XD TCLL [url]http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=277835[/url] <3 O.O Bero is like my buddy :D he never comes around though T.T man... Kryal... if only you'd come back and start up again... that friend request I sent him hasn't been answered since I started my work... well, I'm just gonna link him to this thread then :) (at my posts) thanx :D Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ShadowSnake on January 07, 2011, 08:21:30 PM draggable bones you say, this cud greatly enhance the possibilities of vertex hacking.
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 07, 2011, 08:46:59 PM draggable bones you say, this cud greatly enhance the possibilities of vertex hacking. umm... I think you mean animating :P Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ShadowSnake on January 07, 2011, 08:57:39 PM draggable bones you say, this cud greatly enhance the possibilities of vertex hacking. umm... I think you mean animating :P that too, but for vertexing if you go extreme with a mod you can realign the bones to fit your vertex, so in other words animations work better to make the vertex look better. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 07, 2011, 09:01:41 PM draggable bones you say, this cud greatly enhance the possibilities of vertex hacking. umm... I think you mean animating :P that too, but for vertexing if you go extreme with a mod you can realign the bones to fit your vertex, so in other words animations work better to make the vertex look better. umm... I see what you mean but I'm afraid that's only an idea to put out there... you'd have to add an edit mode to brawlbox to be able to do that... right now it's only for animating, so it moves the mesh... editing is for repositioning the bones... I'll ask them though ;) Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 10, 2011, 05:31:57 PM I'm working on draggable translation, but keep running into errors. TCLL you know C#?
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: KingJigglypuff on January 10, 2011, 05:48:41 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar?
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 10, 2011, 05:59:34 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar? not a chance, because I really suck at C#. I'm just learning the basics, really, and I don't understand most of kyral's and Bero's workTitle: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 10, 2011, 06:23:12 PM I'm working on draggable translation, but keep running into errors. TCLL you know C#? I can only read it a little... IDK it yet... sry ;_; Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 10, 2011, 06:30:16 PM I'm working on draggable translation, but keep running into errors. TCLL you know C#? I can only read it a little... IDK it yet... sry ;_; Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 10, 2011, 06:51:20 PM I'm working on draggable translation, but keep running into errors. TCLL you know C#? I can only read it a little... IDK it yet... sry ;_; o_o *raises finger* you mean yur in the same hole I'm in... >.> honestly, I'd be better off at learning C++ ^(skip past my ranting to find out why) ;) I don't use microsoft proggs but winXP and IE8 (no microsoft office) ^I wouldn't dare touch that filth... ^_^ along with microsoft visual studio (I don't do 30 day trial proggs) I have DevC++ Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Chuy on January 10, 2011, 08:19:45 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar? not a chance, because I really suck at C#. I'm just learning the basics, really, and I don't understand most of kyral's and Bero's workhowever what plans do you have in mind to add to brawlbox? Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 11, 2011, 02:49:41 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar? not a chance, because I really suck at C#. I'm just learning the basics, really, and I don't understand most of kyral's and Bero's workhowever what plans do you have in mind to add to brawlbox? Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on January 11, 2011, 03:00:34 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar? not a chance, because I really suck at C#. I'm just learning the basics, really, and I don't understand most of kyral's and Bero's workhowever what plans do you have in mind to add to brawlbox? What about that animation porting idea that I had too? (I think I posted it here :l ) I doubt it'd be difficult if you implimented a small flash movie program into it. Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 11, 2011, 03:03:02 PM @LordNOaH: Is there any way you could improve compatibility with the brsar? not a chance, because I really suck at C#. I'm just learning the basics, really, and I don't understand most of kyral's and Bero's work If i cared enough i'd bother and learn it however what plans do you have in mind to add to brawlbox? I'm planning on adding draggable translation as well as interpolation settings for animations if i can. Linear, gradual, and exponential. that'd be useful What about that animation porting idea that I had too? (I think I posted it here :l ) I doubt it'd be difficult if you implimented a small flash movie program into it. you can do it then :/ oh, and this: (http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2258/brawlboxxy.jpg) but I kinda gave up on that one Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: TheShyGuy on January 11, 2011, 03:13:09 PM hey noah.. this is a bit off topic..kind of. But did bero give u the actual source code, or do you use the one thats on the op of the modset thread?
-just asking cuz i dl the one on the op and i always get an error trying to build/debug it.... Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 11, 2011, 03:16:57 PM hey noah.. this is a bit off topic..kind of. But did bero give u the actual source code, or do you use the one thats on the op of the modset thread? Yeah I use the one on the modset thread but I haven't been using the latest souce, I'm using the 3.2 source b/c I'm lazy. If it doesn't work for other ppl though you should tell him.-just asking cuz i dl the one on the op and i always get an error trying to build/debug it.... Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on January 11, 2011, 03:24:50 PM Well Daz Studio Advanced has an option for clothes called morph follower. Basically it reads all the data for the outfits and accessories, then alters it's shape to fit the shape of the characters body. I'm not saying you'd need a flash program like actual movie, just flash tools.
1: you open brawlbox and export an animation from one character, say capt falcon. 2: You open another character(NOT captain falcon) preview the model and open three animation files, the character's wait animation you want to port the animation too, the animation you want to port, and a completely new animation. 3: Through a dialogue you select from a button called "port" Then select the animations in order. 1: the characters wait animation 2: the animation you want to port 3: the new animation. 4: once those three animations are selected, you hit "okay" on the port dialogue and the flash tool goes to work. The flash tool's process is described below. 4A: first BB reads the bones positions, rotations etc of the character you're porting the animation to. 4B: Then BB reads the rotations of the bones for the animation you're porting, one frame at a time. (this could take longer depending on the length and complexity of said animation) 4C: Finally BB uses the flash tool to re-create the animation you're porting frame for frame using the chosen character's (Sonic instead of falcon) bones as if you were doing the animation yourself. Since it's a new animation there would be no glitches (translation and rotation wise) because the flash tool is simply creating a new animation that mimicks the animation you want to port using the Selected character's (Someone who's not captain falcon) bones. The difference being that the animation both begins and ends with the new characters wait animations. (Which is why we also load the character's wait animation that we want to port the animation to) Does that sound difficult? :l Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 11, 2011, 03:39:37 PM yes :| considering I can't even get tab functionality working
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on January 11, 2011, 06:47:07 PM yes :| considering I can't even get tab functionality working So you're starting from scratch >_> If I ever learn C++ (which I doubt will happen) I might try to help, but I'd need to see how to edit BB's data too first :l Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: DarkPikachu on January 11, 2011, 09:45:35 PM yes :| considering I can't even get tab functionality working So you're starting from scratch >_> If I ever learn C++ (which I doubt will happen) I might try to help, but I'd need to see how to edit BB's data too first :l if you learn C++ could you maybe answer any Q's I may have :/ I don't use visual so C# is out unless I can find a good free compiler... I ask for C++ since I use DevC++ works quite well to say the least :D the brmdl (mdl0) viewer was made in DevC++ :) I've been trying to figure out the code... but it's quite a hastle -.- Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: TheShyGuy on January 13, 2011, 06:14:34 PM Hey noah what'd you do with BB? It wont show the attributes/info on the table to the right anymore....if you cant remember than thats ...>.>...fine lol
Title: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: ??_? on January 14, 2011, 02:59:43 PM Hey noah what'd you do with BB? It wont show the attributes/info on the table to the right anymore....if you cant remember than thats ...>.>...fine lol I probably [censored]ed something up in mainform.cs, but bero is fixing 4.1 dl that instead. Did you get my tabs working? lolTitle: Re: Brawlbox Modset 4.1 is here! Draggable bones, among other things Post by: Naruto200Man on January 16, 2011, 02:01:50 PM Can anyone PLEASE explain why I get a "Just in time" debugging error when I open up peach's motionetc file with Brawlbox modset 4.1? It only happens on two occasions.
1: when I open peaches motionetc (doesn't matter what source it is) 2: when I try to save a motionetc file I edited, even just porting an animation. I really want to get started on animating, because porting attacks over to peach where the leg goes any higher than 90 degrees is lame and doesn't work :l |