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Title: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on August 31, 2009, 06:06:39 PM Echo Blade Zelda The Official Thread Recent News: - Now that she's been released, people have to tell me what's good, and what ain't. Gotta make her fair, ya know? - Besides the shrinking and the occasional edits, I plan to put the next step of this project on hold. I have a few ideas I'd like to finish first =P (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/al_090907_19461.jpg) I need feedback on which moves are overpowered/underpowered. I don't want her to be too broken~ Info: - Zelda is fire-based ["wow soo overdone blah blah"] the same way Sheik has electric-based attacks. - The Echo Blade will obviously be used in the majority of her attacks. Physics: - Air Mobility increased. - The Echo Basics: + Moderate speed increase + Weight decrease [85 to 70] + Footstool boost Attacks: Video [by S.N.E.S.S.] http://www.youtube.com/v/nVnjYKKzOsc Jab: The Beckoning She swings her arm, and hitboxes pull you closer. Simple, effective. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1943.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1943.jpg) F-Tilt: Quick Step She dashes, then disappears? She then reappears, burning your face. Yum. Tidbits: + Hold down A to slash with your blade instead! + There are THREE variations of this move, controlling which way you teleport, depending on the way you tilt. Including the sword variation, there are SIX possible moves. Have fun learning which is which! (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1742.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1742.jpg)(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1738.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1738.jpg)(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1743.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1743.jpg) U-Tilt: Just a Stretch She lifts her hand, effectively igniting whoever happens to be above her. Simple. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_19412.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_19412.jpg) D-Tilt: Flash Fire F-Smash: Ike Called, He Wants His Move Back. [name pending] As the sword comes down, the dude caught in it gets it multiple times before the launch. Tidbits: + The tip is mad weak ['cuz it's the farthest blah blah blah]. Hit with the center. ++ The real reason is I'm having hitbox problems, but w/e. This works too. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090904_2144.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090904_2144.jpg) Dash Attack: Charge! She spins, then charges forward. Well, not really. More like glides. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1735.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1735.jpg) U-Smash: Abusing That Darkness Effect [name pending] U-Tilt animaton, with DAHKNESS! It pulls you in before spitting you out. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1736.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1736.jpg) D-Smash: Trippin' The trip, with moh powah. Hits in front, then in back, then in front again. Pretty quick. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_17361.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_17361.jpg) Nair: I Didn't Change Same move. With slashy flags. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1947.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1947.jpg) U-Air: Boom! Exactly the same. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_17411.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_17411.jpg) Dair: Boom! with a Twist~ The only move I was settled on from the get-go. She spins fancily in the air. ... Oh yeah, and there's an explosion beneath you. ... It spikes. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090904_21411.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090904_21411.jpg) Fair: Sweets Same move as before. With FIYAH. I made it a tiny bit bigger, and removed a sourspot. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1741.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1741.jpg) Bair: That Ain't Puff Standard 'My foot's gonna stick out for a really long time, and I'll abuse this move many more times to steadily push you farther away from the stage' kick. Trademarked by Jiggs. Tidbits: + This and Fair can be L-canceled =P Try it, if you're holding a shield command when you hit the ground, the animation lag will be cut in half. My little tribute to Melee. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_1740.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_1740.jpg) Neutral B: Sacred Light This allows access to a new set of moves! As legend has it [I don't know which, but it's legit], there are only three sacred weapons, held by the worthiest of heroes: the sword, the shield, and the jewel. ... Yes, the jewel. Tidbits: + In the air, it cancels most of your momentum. That's pretty useful, I must say. + You have to reload it every time you use one of the 'special' moves. Kinda annoying, kinda fun. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_19411.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_19411.jpg)(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1941.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1941.jpg) New N-Air: That Ain't Link Instead of flashy lights, Zelda pulls out two swords during her spin. ...Because that's original. It has good knockback, regardless of damage. Tidbits: (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1946.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1946.jpg) New F-Air and F-Tilt: That Ain't Mario What? An Echo shield? That's pretty sick. It stays out for a while, and turns people around. A fun, yet tricky edgeguard. Tidbits: + She gets knocked backwards a bit, especially in the air. It could be useful, or completely screw you over. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1944.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1944.jpg) New B-Air: That Ain't...Donkey Kong? Side B: Reckless Charge She readies herself, then charges forward...recklessly! Riding on a cloud of darkness, attacks won't even faze her as she readies her blade and slices you up. Tidbits: + Can be done in the air. + Hold down B. Trust me. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090904_2141.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090904_2141.jpg) Down B: Transform Tidbits: + There's more lag at startup, but if you're using Echo Blade Sheik, there will be almost no ending lag. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_19481.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_19481.jpg) Up-B: Fayore's Wind The startup has wind hitboxes [idea from IKOU]. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090907_1948.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090907_1948.jpg) Throws: The D-Throw burns you. (http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/th_al_090905_17371.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/albums/u296/GinRoKen/Texture%20Hacks/?action=view¤t=al_090905_17371.jpg) Download Links: Echo Blade Package: Zelda + Echo Blade Sheik v1.5 (http://rapidshare.com/files/283656949/EBZeldav1.0__Sheikv1.5.rar) Official Version: Echo Blade Zelda v1.0 (http://rapidshare.com/files/283664344/FitZelda_EchoBlade_v1.0_.pac) To Do List: - Shrink it! >.< Echo Blade Sheik Thread (http://kittycorp.freecp.net/index.php?topic=1113.0) Credits So Far: + Eldrian [Wisp] ~ One of the biggest inspirations for this moveset: he helped out with coding for the Side-B and the use of switches in general. Stole some coding too =P + UMOP [Fighter Kirby] ~ Mr. Fountain of Knowledge, helped wrap up the momentum problem and the Side-B. + drsusredfish [Time Mage Zelda] ~ His moveset has been indirectly helping me with some animation ideas =) + Untouch ~ Dude, your coding discoveries are doing wonders. + camelot ~ Frame Speed. EVERYWHERE. Enough said. + Those people who give me ideas [thanyou, kyzon, IKOU, etc.] ~ Because I really do steal them. XP + S.N.E.S.S. [Avatar Ness] ~ For the epic moveset video, coming soon~ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: thanyou on August 31, 2009, 06:40:19 PM How about for the neutral B you use the entrance animation where she prays and then puts her hands to her side and a gfx radiates from her. Have her do that, only when she puts her hands down, make a fire gfx appear around her, dealing little knockback, but it still has great growth. Deals 4% per hit, because its multiple hitboxes, there's a chance the character could be hit by the attack multiple times causing a lot of damage
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on August 31, 2009, 06:47:20 PM That actually sounds pretty cool =D I've been meaning to use that animation.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: thanyou on August 31, 2009, 06:53:07 PM Glad you think so, I thought consistency would be cool, as Echo Blade Sheik has a slightly similar attack
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: IKOU on August 31, 2009, 08:22:26 PM well first off for sheik, her side b needs to be an attack where she dissapears and jumps forward with a sword slash (use Kyzon's Link's side b and you will know what im saying)
but for zeldas up b, when she disapears add wind hitboxes, and when she reapears, have her make a sword slash her upsmash could also have the uairs explosin on the last hit keep dthrow the same, only set the angle to 10E, unless you want to make the dthrow her dsmash the side b could be three hand strikes, the first 2 stunning and the last one giving knockback also, go for the dual wield Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: thanyou on August 31, 2009, 08:44:58 PM @ IKOU
Demanding much? Although I do like the idea of wielding 2 swords Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 04:51:39 AM well first off for sheik, her side b needs to be an attack where she dissapears and jumps forward with a sword slash (use Kyzon's Link's side b and you will know what im saying) but for zeldas up b, when she disapears add wind hitboxes, and when she reapears, have her make a sword slash her upsmash could also have the uairs explosin on the last hit keep dthrow the same, only set the angle to 10E, unless you want to make the dthrow her dsmash the side b could be three hand strikes, the first 2 stunning and the last one giving knockback also, go for the dual wield I actually don't mind, these are good ideas ^-^ - Unfortunately for Sheik, you can't map hitboxes to her Side-B. Believe me, I've tried. Maybe just a teleport then? =P - I actually really like your Zelda Up-B idea =D Maybe I'll use it. - I actually AM using the explosion effect, I was debating that for either U-Tilt or U-Smash. - It doesn't seem like much of a D-Smash, but why set it to 10E? That spikes...wait... =P - Where would I get hand strike animations? - And yeah, I'll be trying the dual wield, but I gotta find good animations. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: IKOU on September 01, 2009, 05:41:47 AM yeah, i realized it sounded more demanding less like ideas halfway through typing the post, i tried to reword it but i guess i failed. and i now realize that i missed a "need" in sheik's side b. so just so u know, i was throwing out ideas.
but for the hand strike animations you could use Attack100 and AttackS3S or AttackS3Hi without effects. the third strike could be one of her swing animations Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: Shipomaster on September 01, 2009, 06:30:44 AM Her neutral B could be like beam kirby. With her praying animation it could do a circle around her.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 07:31:50 AM IKOU, you have some good ideas. =D
Her neutral B could be like beam kirby. With her praying animation it could do a circle around her. Now if I had a beam, that'd be nice =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: kyzon on September 01, 2009, 10:53:46 AM Make a beam :3
I'm gonna try to make a projectile out of my sword today or tomorrow Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 11:05:59 AM Make a beam :3 I'm gonna try to make a projectile out of my sword today or tomorrow I've been meaning to do the same =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: kyzon on September 01, 2009, 11:12:59 AM Tell me how it goes with you..
i have no exp with projectiles yet so i'm hoping it turns out sexeh Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 11:18:42 AM Tell me how it goes with you.. i have no exp with projectiles yet so i'm hoping it turns out sexeh It's all time-consuming graphic-spamming, and you're good =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: kyzon on September 01, 2009, 11:39:28 AM i deff have exp with consuming time by doing things manually..
Cant wait to try out this zelda then. Echo Blade Sheik is beyond sexy Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: freezinboi280 on September 01, 2009, 05:05:31 PM if you're looking for an idea for the sword's shape, maybe this might give you some inspiration?:
http://www.freewebs.com/halo2dictator2/energysword.jpg The sword from halo was the first thing that came into my mind when I used Echo Blade Shiek. Although I know nothing about Halo myself. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 05:25:22 PM hahahahahaha maybe XP
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: Naruby on September 01, 2009, 05:54:21 PM Hmm.. shouldn't Sheik be the one dual wielding instead? Sheik would be focusing on powerful close range attacks, and Zelda would be focusing on effective longer ranged attacks. So.. Zelda should have moves where she uses her powerful magic to extend her Echo Blade's length, should would have less hits since it's only one blade. Sheik, with her dual blades, would have more hits in her attacks.
Here's a neat idea, since it's called "Echo" Blade, if you were to picture echoes, it would be repeated sounds getting weaker and weaker.. so.. I think a single swing of the Echo Blade would have multiple hits in them but each hit getting weaker than the last one. Maybe make each swing 3 hits instead of just 1, if it seems too cheap, just make the "echoes" unable to flinch people. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 01, 2009, 07:25:24 PM Hmm.. shouldn't Sheik be the one dual wielding instead? Sheik would be focusing on powerful close range attacks, and Zelda would be focusing on effective longer ranged attacks. So.. Zelda should have moves where she uses her powerful magic to extend her Echo Blade's length, should would have less hits since it's only one blade. Sheik, with her dual blades, would have more hits in her attacks. Here's a neat idea, since it's called "Echo" Blade, if you were to picture echoes, it would be repeated sounds getting weaker and weaker.. so.. I think a single swing of the Echo Blade would have multiple hits in them but each hit getting weaker than the last one. Maybe make each swing 3 hits instead of just 1, if it seems too cheap, just make the "echoes" unable to flinch people. @ 1st paragraph: Ahh, stop thinking about it! >.< You'll spoil the surprise... @ 2nd paragraph: I like that idea ^-^ I think I'll start using it... Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: smashmaniac2008 on September 04, 2009, 06:40:14 PM Wait a second from the sound of it it sounds like you are making a dual wielding echo blade shiek with each swing doing 3 hits each hit weaker then the last and having Echo Blade Zelda wield one sword that constantly changes size and power.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: thanyou on September 04, 2009, 06:49:33 PM He probably isn't but that would be so sexy if he was
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Like everyone else, I need ideas =P Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 04, 2009, 07:22:03 PM Wait a second from the sound of it it sounds like you are making a dual wielding echo blade shiek with each swing doing 3 hits each hit weaker then the last and having Echo Blade Zelda wield one sword that constantly changes size and power. That WOULD be a really sick idea if I wasn't lazy and trying to conserve file size >.< If I have any extra room when I'm done with everything for these two [and trust me, there's a LOT more than you think], I'll think about it. ^-^ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: New Pics! Beta DL Soon? Maybe? Still Need Ideas Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 04, 2009, 08:44:41 PM Updated with pics. Still loads of little glitches to touch up.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: New Pics! Beta DL Soon? Maybe? Still Need Ideas Post by: smashmaniac2008 on September 05, 2009, 10:53:08 AM looks epic.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: New Pics & Beta DL Up! Still Need Ideas Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 05, 2009, 12:40:17 PM Beta download up! Hope fully you can tell which moves need work =P
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 05, 2009, 06:42:47 PM Ok nicce.. very very nice...
Hmm now things that need work... hmmm the jab attack deff has a weird hitbox. Side B goes off the side.. but maybe thats intended... Hmmm She for sure competes with my Kyzon for most amazing Recovery in Brawl :P not sure what down tilt does. but nothing much so far for me Hmm thats about all i can say.. i'm having too much fun right now with her :P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 05, 2009, 06:53:05 PM Ok nicce.. very very nice... Hmm now things that need work... hmmm the jab attack deff has a weird hitbox. Side B goes off the side.. but maybe thats intended... Hmmm She for sure competes with my Kyzon for most amazing Recovery in Brawl :P not sure what down tilt does. but nothing much so far for me Hmm thats about all i can say.. i'm having too much fun right now with her :P Yeah, Side B is supposed to go off =P Jab and D-Tilt aren't working: apparently someone didn't read the main post. XD I want to make it that using Side-B in the air makes her freefall...it's really annoying =.= Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 05, 2009, 06:55:33 PM >_> oh yea main post <_< lol
Hmm well Freefall i believe is somewhere in specials.. idk tho.. kyzon doesnt believe in freefall you'll notice if you've played as him lol.. but overall great characrer.. both Echo Blade gals are terrific Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 05, 2009, 07:05:54 PM >_> oh yea main post <_< lol Hmm well Freefall i believe is somewhere in specials.. idk tho.. kyzon doesnt believe in freefall you'll notice if you've played as him lol.. but overall great characrer.. both Echo Blade gals are terrific Thank ya thank ya, but you haven't seen anything yet =) Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 05, 2009, 07:13:04 PM O__O
oh will there be new throws? since i remember to ask nao also.... just noticed the sex that is the up and down tilted Side Smashes Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 05, 2009, 07:43:03 PM O__O oh will there be new throws? since i remember to ask nao also.... just noticed the sex that is the up and down tilted Side Smashes New throws?? Dude, your imagination needs some work XP Those tilts have been there since Sheik; they just don't look quite as awesome. Sheik is way more graceful =) Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 05, 2009, 07:50:35 PM Lol i knew they were there in sheik i had just forgotten about the zelda versions on them :P
lol idk what would be done for a zelda throw actually.. was just wondering :P lol i think the teleport tilts are bad azz actually Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 05, 2009, 07:53:09 PM Lol i knew they were there in sheik i had just forgotten about the zelda versions on them :P lol idk what would be done for a zelda throw actually.. was just wondering :P lol i think the teleport tilts are bad azz actually Dun worry. The teleports are my current project, they're getting better =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 05, 2009, 08:10:59 PM Moar teleports???
oh my cant wait for this Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 06, 2009, 01:53:27 PM Moar teleports??? oh my cant wait for this The teleports are done, oh you're gonna have a nice time trying to figure it all out. ;) I be working on the B move right now, it's lookin pretty nifty so far :) Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 06, 2009, 04:34:02 PM Ahhh very very nice.. Cant Wait to see what the final product looks like..
i'm pretty pumped for this Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 06, 2009, 05:21:26 PM I've just gotta touch up the hitboxes, and finish up half of my B move. It might be out tonight, or maybe early tomorrow. All that's left after that is balancing. =)
You seem to be the only one actually excited about this =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: kyzon on September 06, 2009, 05:30:13 PM Well it isnt active as when you released Echo Blade Sheik.
and i get excited when epicness happens... and Echo Blade anyone is epicness Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: thanyou on September 06, 2009, 10:09:09 PM I wonder who else you'll make into an "Echo Blade _____"
Yeah, I still like what you've done so far, I can't wait for the release of the NB Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta Download v0.5 Up! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 06, 2009, 10:12:25 PM I wonder who else you'll make into an "Echo Blade _____" Yeah, I still like what you've done so far, I can't wait for the release of the NB Yay, another fan! ^-^ The Neutral B still needs some work...I'll probably release it tomorrow, since there's still some work to be done. Honestly, the Echo Blades are probably going to be specific to Zelda and Sheik, only because the sword graphics are exclusive to them. Granted, I could make another character just like them and just use another graphic...I could probably even expand on that char farther, seeming he or she'd have no shared file size limit... But it just wouldn't be an Echo Blade to me =) Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: More New Pics, Beta DL v0.6 Up Soon! Needs Feedback~ Post by: thanyou on September 06, 2009, 10:38:00 PM You shoulda considered me a fan when I first commented on your thread >:|
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: More New Pics, Beta DL v0.6 Up Soon! Needs Feedback~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 07, 2009, 04:06:32 AM You shoulda considered me a fan when I first commented on your thread >:| True, true, I apologize =P But after a while it was only kyzon giving me feedback, thanks again =) Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: More New Pics, Beta DL v0.6 Up Soon! Needs Feedback~ Post by: thanyou on September 07, 2009, 03:15:06 PM You shoulda considered me a fan when I first commented on your thread >:| True, true, I apologize =P But after a while it was only kyzon giving me feedback, thanks again =) I was jking, sorry DX I wonder who else you'll make into an "Echo Blade _____" Yeah, I still like what you've done so far, I can't wait for the release of the NB Yay, another fan! ^-^ The Neutral B still needs some work...I'll probably release it tomorrow, since there's still some work to be done. Honestly, the Echo Blades are probably going to be specific to Zelda and Sheik, only because the sword graphics are exclusive to them. Granted, I could make another character just like them and just use another graphic...I could probably even expand on that char farther, seeming he or she'd have no shared file size limit... But it just wouldn't be an Echo Blade to me =) This is true. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, Need Help Balancing Post by: thanyou on September 07, 2009, 05:59:59 PM Yay, The NB is released, and I must say, it is truly epic
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: kyzon on September 07, 2009, 11:32:45 PM I'm liking the new moves.. lookin good...
i surprised myself again cuz i didnt read the OP lol Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 08, 2009, 04:28:46 AM I'm liking the new moves.. lookin good... i surprised myself again cuz i didnt read the OP lol Still? It changes like water, dude. Keep up with it XD Did you figure out the F-Tilts? Personally, that's the most confusing for me =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: thanyou on September 08, 2009, 08:31:57 AM Did you figure out the F-Tilts? Personally, that's the most confusing for me =P I was only able to find 4 of the 6 Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 08, 2009, 10:05:29 AM Did you figure out the F-Tilts? Personally, that's the most confusing for me =P I was only able to find 4 of the 6 Which 4? Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: kyzon on September 08, 2009, 11:06:58 AM i found out the forward and back teleports and the teleport in place with fire or w/out fire.
and the shield one two.. are there more? Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: SnesS on September 08, 2009, 05:30:03 PM is there any video for this yet. i want to download it, but i need i reason to download the beta tho... otherwise ill wait for a roughly completed version
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 08, 2009, 05:53:44 PM is there any video for this yet. i want to download it, but i need i reason to download the beta tho... otherwise ill wait for a roughly completed version Nope, no video yet. I'm missing roughly 2-3 moves from the final completion, so you really wouldn't be missing out on much =P I think this'll be my last beta before the final release on the staff blog. I'll probably destroy the beta link and the moveset a week before that, just because =D Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: SnesS on September 08, 2009, 06:01:26 PM do u haz a capture card? ill make a vid of the final release of this girl. and how much longer do u estimate til the final release. (i gots school so i wont even have time for a few games of brawl, not until friday and weekend)
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: thanyou on September 08, 2009, 06:20:37 PM For her f-tilt, she teleports forward, and if you....:
Hold the button, she will slash with her sword Do not hold the button she uses a fire attack There are 3 variations of the same attack depending on which dierection you f-tilt, coming to a grand total of 6 attacks all in (sorta) one command Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Beta DL v0.6 Up! Neutral B Added, With Pics Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 08, 2009, 07:04:15 PM do u haz a capture card? ill make a vid of the final release of this girl. and how much longer do u estimate til the final release. (i gots school so i wont even have time for a few games of brawl, not until friday and weekend) I honestly don't know...before the end of September? =P I'm starting school too, so my time will be limited. Thanks for the offer though, I'll gladly accept it. ^-^ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Removing DL Link in 24 Hours, For Final Renovation Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 09, 2009, 06:54:18 PM I've decided to hide the download and the moveset after one more day, so hopefully when I release the 'Final' version, it'll be a bit more of a surprise =P
I plan to revamp a number more moves than I expected, but you guys can still play around with the beta til I find time to finish it, which could easily take a month or so, due to new school pressure. So enjoy the beta you guys, and wait for my Zelda's return! ^-^ - .Fade Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: SnesS on September 19, 2009, 08:25:42 PM .Fade, when is the final gonna be released? and is it Echo Blade Shiek 1.4 that will allow both zelda/shiek pacs to work?
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 19, 2009, 09:28:46 PM .Fade, when is the final gonna be released? and is it Echo Blade Shiek 1.4 that will allow both zelda/shiek pacs to work? I'm tweaking it now, should be done eventually. It doesn't help that I can't really work on the weekdays. Yeah, v1.4 is the smallest complete version currently out. It SHOULD work with all Zelda PSAs, unless that Zelda is abnormally HUGE. Like, 350 KB is huge. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 20, 2009, 06:40:10 PM Double post =P
Echo Blade Zelda's official v1.0 release is scheduled to appear on KC:MM's front page on Wednesday! Get hype. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: SKLLedOne on September 20, 2009, 07:07:42 PM FINALLYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!! :af:
I have been waiting SOOOOO long for the final version to come out (missed the v0.6 DL). It looks awsome and I know it WILL be awsome! Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: thanyou on September 21, 2009, 09:50:42 AM YAY, UPDATES :af:
I hope that Bn is at least in a beta, I've been waiting forever for to test that idea out =D Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 21, 2009, 04:39:46 PM YAY, UPDATES :af: I hope that Bn is at least in a beta, I've been waiting forever for to test that idea out =D Yup, it's pretty much done. I'm getting rid of the glitches right now, just wait ^-^ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: ItalianStallion on September 21, 2009, 04:44:16 PM Do u know when u will be makin a video?
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Undergoing Final Renovation Post by: SnesS on September 21, 2009, 05:16:45 PM dont worry .Fade, i remember. but now i got school so i'll fit it in when i got free time. Friday at the latest
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Finished, Official Release Wednesday! Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 21, 2009, 05:39:19 PM dont worry .Fade, i remember. but now i got school so i'll fit it in when i got free time. Friday at the latest Thanks dude! Check your inbox~ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Finished, Official Release Wednesday! Post by: Fenox on September 21, 2009, 06:45:04 PM I am impressed.....again.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Finished, Official Release Wednesday! Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 21, 2009, 06:48:39 PM I am impressed.....again. Dude, you haven't even seen it yet. =P Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Finished, Official Release Wednesday! Post by: Fenox on September 21, 2009, 08:54:00 PM Dude ur so sexy,teach me.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Finished, Official Release Wednesday! Post by: kyzon on September 21, 2009, 09:51:26 PM lol @ fenox
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Releasing A Little Early~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 22, 2009, 04:47:47 PM I've decided to release it around 8-ish EST. I'm anxious to hear your comments~
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Releasing A Little Early~ Post by: SnesS on September 22, 2009, 04:52:25 PM its being uploaded rite now, sooo in a couple of hours. i made two videos: one just showing her moves, and one thats a brawl against ROB at random. srry if i pause alot in the 1st one cuz while i was recording i was reading her movesets (which confused me for a minute but i gotem down) and in the 2nd one i wasnt able to show all her moves cuz well... i was brawling and some moves werent called for. like... if u play as mario, how many times will you use is dtilt?
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Releasing A Little Early~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 22, 2009, 04:56:49 PM its being uploaded rite now, sooo in a couple of hours. i made two videos: one just showing her moves, and one thats a brawl against ROB at random. srry if i pause alot in the 1st one cuz while i was recording i was reading her movesets (which confused me for a minute but i gotem down) and in the 2nd one i wasnt able to show all her moves cuz well... i was brawling and some moves werent called for. like... if u play as mario, how many times will you use is dtilt? It's okay. D-Tilt is a filler move, pretty much. Thanks dude, you'll see their links on the main page soon enough! Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Releasing A Little Early~ Post by: smashmaniac2008 on September 22, 2009, 06:02:35 PM your are talking about the 3 imperial regalia of japan the Kusanagi no Tsurugi, Yata no Kagami, and the Yasakani no Magatama in english the Kusanagi Sword the Yata Mirror and the Yasakani Jewel ßßthe sword is valor the mirror is wisdom and the jewel is benevolence.
totally off topic i just felt like saying that. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Releasing A Little Early~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 22, 2009, 06:11:15 PM Ah, the mirror, that was it! Thanks dude.
By the way, the moveset is up now. ^-^ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: Fenox on September 22, 2009, 06:16:24 PM This is so sick man, Your offically better than P.W
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 22, 2009, 06:19:39 PM This is so sick man, Your offically better than P.W Double posting is against the rules, good sir. =P And no, I'm not better than Phantom Wings. I'm sure if he actually put effort into making a PSA, it would blow our minds just the same. Of course, he's busy with other stuff, and I definitely ain't interrupting him. XD Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: thanyou on September 22, 2009, 06:21:14 PM I'm pretty sure its still Tuesday, but whatever I'll still enjoy it
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: SnesS on September 22, 2009, 06:25:41 PM This is so sick man, Your offically better than P.W whoa...whoa...whoa... lets not get crazy here. PW was the pioneer in this stuffTitle: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: Fenox on September 22, 2009, 06:27:17 PM Well not like that. But I mean, he`s really good. I have just as much respct for him as P.W.
Didn`t mean to make it come out wrong sorry. xD Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: SnesS on September 22, 2009, 08:09:47 PM Here you goes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVnjYKKzOsc vid2 on the way... Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: ItalianStallion on September 22, 2009, 09:49:09 PM thank god someone posted a video.. now the monkeys are happy
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: thanyou on September 22, 2009, 10:57:31 PM Another awesome vid by sness =)
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: Sylvo on September 22, 2009, 11:18:15 PM Great vid. Great char. I'm proud to have been in your first thread back when you texture hacked. This is amazing .Fade.
-props Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: smashmaniac2008 on September 24, 2009, 04:10:24 PM yeah now the monkey gods are happy :) anyways when will you make Echo Blade Zelda "smaller"
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Officially Released! Check The Main Page! Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 24, 2009, 04:14:02 PM yeah now the monkey gods are happy :) anyways when will you make Echo Blade Zelda "smaller" Dunno, maybe this weekend. Gotta make sure it works with those other Sheik PSAs =D Btw, I still need feedback about Zelda: which moves should be nerfed and which strengthened. Right now, D-Tilt seems to be the most useless move...any ideas for a new move? Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: shirochigo on September 25, 2009, 09:25:19 AM I actually preferred Zelda's regular Down Tilt cause it was so evil. xD But... Hm... I'm not so sure at the moment. Anyway I've been playing around as Echo Blade Zelda and I noticed a few things.
Her USmash can't seem to hit characters who are shorter than her if they aren't on the side where the last hit is and they just escape it. Maybe you could give it a stronger pulling effect? If that's too overpowered then ignore me. xD For some reason her new DSmash doesn't seem as strong as her original one. It's rather minor to me so it's not a problem but I'm just sayin'. Her Dash Attack goes REALLY far and most of the time for no reason. It hits the target a few times and then zooms past them. Perhaps that is what you were going for? Hit and run? If so then I understand and also ignore this. After using her Neutral Special and then doing a Bair... What does that even do? xD I haven't even been able to successfully hit someone with it yet. Not even a training dummy. That's pretty much it for me. Otherwise Zelda seems pretty okay to me. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 25, 2009, 09:22:36 PM Here you goes [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVnjYKKzOsc[/url] vid2 on the way... which song did you use for your menu? i'd like to try that one out, sounds pretty good =] @Fade: I like the changes you made with Echo Blade Zelda. It was better than your previous release of it, which didnt make me too interested in using it. But now i'm pretty sure i'll want to keep it. I havent tested it out too much yet either. There's just too much work I need to get done =/ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 25, 2009, 10:36:17 PM Here you goes [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVnjYKKzOsc[/url] vid2 on the way... which song did you use for your menu? i'd like to try that one out, sounds pretty good =] @Fade: I like the changes you made with Echo Blade Zelda. It was better than your previous release of it, which didnt make me too interested in using it. But now i'm pretty sure i'll want to keep it. I havent tested it out too much yet either. There's just too much work I need to get done =/ i used the Sigma Boss Battle music from MMX1. i was playing it the other day... its a good song to pump you up for a fight Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 26, 2009, 08:56:35 AM man I remember Sigma, or kind of do. back when I was playing megaman on the gameboy color lolz. I used to love megaman. But I think one of my favorite games of all time for that system was Zelda: Season&Ages + Pokemon Gold/Silver =]
I'll look up that song and try it later, i've got so much textbook chapters to read =/ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 26, 2009, 10:13:55 AM man I remember Sigma, or kind of do. back when I was playing megaman on the gameboy color lolz. I used to love megaman. But I think one of my favorite games of all time for that system was Zelda: Season&Ages + Pokemon Gold/Silver =] did u kno that zelda ages/seasons was ranked best zelda game? id hafta agree to. its old skool zelda, mixed with 2d parts, bunch of weapons, the ability to JUMP, animal friends, etc...I'll look up that song and try it later, i've got so much textbook chapters to read =/ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 26, 2009, 05:01:13 PM really? I had no idea. the only zelda games i've ever played were seasons&ages, plus the game that came before that one. then I tried Twilight Princess when it came out, and I didnt really like how they changed the game. I looked through DS versions of the game before, but it looks like they changed it too much. Twilight Princess was overall just confusing to get used to (to me of course). I'll have to try and finish Twilight Princess some day though.. I'm still somewhere in the beginning of that game lolz.
And about that "Megaman X1 - Sigma 1st" brstm, I cant seem to find it =x Do you by any chance remember who posted it? Also, I saw some image changes with Zelda when you switched through colors. Does that work for the Brawl+ code set? It all seems pretty confusing to me to understand =/ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 26, 2009, 08:56:30 PM really? I had no idea. the only zelda games i've ever played were seasons&ages, plus the game that came before that one. then I tried Twilight Princess when it came out, and I didnt really like how they changed the game. I looked through DS versions of the game before, but it looks like they changed it too much. Twilight Princess was overall just confusing to get used to (to me of course). I'll have to try and finish Twilight Princess some day though.. I'm still somewhere in the beginning of that game lolz. 1) twilight princess blew mah mind. but honestly, i could only play thru it once or so, then half way thru it again i get bored. the ds ones... i really dont like as much. theyre TOO innovative, u kno? its cool to use the touch pad once in a while, you hafta use it for everything.And about that "Megaman X1 - Sigma 1st" brstm, I cant seem to find it =x Do you by any chance remember who posted it? Also, I saw some image changes with Zelda when you switched through colors. Does that work for the Brawl+ code set? It all seems pretty confusing to me to understand =/ 2) i make my own brstm files. ifya want, i can send you the sigma music + a lot of other music from different games too. 3) when u say image change, do u mean the custom character screen portraits. i guess it works for brawl+. i dunno how brawl+ works. to my knowledge, theres a program that installs brawl+ for you by installing a code and putting pac files all over the place. dont take mah word for it tho... Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 26, 2009, 09:05:08 PM that would be great, i'd like to see what other brstm's you use as well. but the sigma one is the one i'd like to try out the most. i remember how frustrating it was to get through megaman games on the gameboy color lolz
I never knew how to add codes to the current code you have, so I probably wont mess with that. I remember when I was trying to find out how to add the music code for Brawl+ to get brstm's to work in Brawl+, but I could never find out. Then I read that their newest nightly build release was able to play brstm's, so I kind of changed to that one and never bothered to find out how adding codes work. But yeah, the character portraits was what I meant. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 26, 2009, 09:27:39 PM that would be great, i'd like to see what other brstm's you use as well. but the sigma one is the one i'd like to try out the most. i remember how frustrating it was to get through megaman games on the gameboy color lolz I never knew how to add codes to the current code you have, so I probably wont mess with that. I remember when I was trying to find out how to add the music code for Brawl+ to get brstm's to work in Brawl+, but I could never find out. Then I read that their newest nightly build release was able to play brstm's, so I kind of changed to that one and never bothered to find out how adding codes work. But yeah, the character portraits was what I meant. i made this post a while ago http://kittycorp.freecp.net/index.php?topic=2279.0 Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 26, 2009, 10:02:02 PM yeah I saw your post just earlier today when I was searching for the megaman song, except the downloads werent there, except for a dragon ball one.
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: kiro on September 26, 2009, 10:57:30 PM I seem to be having a problem with the moveset. I put it in Zelda's folder and named it FitZelda.pac, but her moveset is still the same. I can't figure out what went wrong. Does anyone have any ideas?
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 26, 2009, 11:08:28 PM yeah I saw your post just earlier today when I was searching for the megaman song, except the downloads werent there, except for a dragon ball one. thats the thing. u hafta request it then ill post it cuz its annoying to upload ALL of themTitle: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: freezinboi280 on September 26, 2009, 11:19:10 PM I seem to be having a problem with the moveset. I put it in Zelda's folder and named it FitZelda.pac, but her moveset is still the same. I can't figure out what went wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? on your SD card, did you make sure that the file has the file extension ".pac"? Because sometimes, usually on Windows XP, some of the .pac files didnt have the extension at the ending after extracting the files. thats the thing. u hafta request it then ill post it cuz its annoying to upload ALL of them ohh ok Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 27, 2009, 03:51:39 AM I seem to be having a problem with the moveset. I put it in Zelda's folder and named it FitZelda.pac, but her moveset is still the same. I can't figure out what went wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? on your SD card, did you make sure that the file has the file extension ".pac"? Because sometimes, usually on Windows XP, some of the .pac files didnt have the extension at the ending after extracting the files. thats the thing. u hafta request it then ill post it cuz its annoying to upload ALL of them ohh ok Along with what he said, maybe you have a Sheik PSA that's too big? That could be the problem. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: kiro on September 29, 2009, 03:21:02 PM I seem to be having a problem with the moveset. I put it in Zelda's folder and named it FitZelda.pac, but her moveset is still the same. I can't figure out what went wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? on your SD card, did you make sure that the file has the file extension ".pac"? Because sometimes, usually on Windows XP, some of the .pac files didnt have the extension at the ending after extracting the files. thats the thing. u hafta request it then ill post it cuz its annoying to upload ALL of them ohh ok Along with what he said, maybe you have a Sheik PSA that's too big? That could be the problem. I think that may be it. but it doesn't reqally make sense I'm using the Echo Blade Sheik. Is there a different version of Sheik's PSA that will let me use Zelda's or vice-versa? Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on September 29, 2009, 04:55:28 PM I seem to be having a problem with the moveset. I put it in Zelda's folder and named it FitZelda.pac, but her moveset is still the same. I can't figure out what went wrong. Does anyone have any ideas? on your SD card, did you make sure that the file has the file extension ".pac"? Because sometimes, usually on Windows XP, some of the .pac files didnt have the extension at the ending after extracting the files. thats the thing. u hafta request it then ill post it cuz its annoying to upload ALL of them ohh ok Along with what he said, maybe you have a Sheik PSA that's too big? That could be the problem. I think that may be it. but it doesn't reqally make sense I'm using the Echo Blade Sheik. Is there a different version of Sheik's PSA that will let me use Zelda's or vice-versa? http://rapidshare.com/files/283656949/EBZeldav1.0__Sheikv1.5.rar Here, these two WILL work together...at least on MY Wii. Rename them FitSheik.pac and FitZelda.pac apropriately, and put them in the right folders. Until I find time to shrink Zelda, these'll do. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: kiro on September 29, 2009, 09:00:32 PM Thanks! They work perfectly now!
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on September 30, 2009, 09:04:24 PM why am i in a lot of quotes? my quote had nothing to do with zelda or shiek.
lolzlolzlolz (http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/5/51/BrawlMr.Saturn.jpg/250px-BrawlMr.Saturn.jpg) BOING! ZOOM ZOOM! Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on October 01, 2009, 05:26:10 PM Haha, time to finally respond to you, Shirochigo! ^-^
Quote I actually preferred Zelda's regular Down Tilt cause it was so evil. xD But... Hm... I'm not so sure at the moment. Anyway I've been playing around as Echo Blade Zelda and I noticed a few things. I plan to...make it more useful? I dunno how at the moment...maybe I'll reduce the knockback a little so it's more combo-able. Quote Her USmash can't seem to hit characters who are shorter than her if they aren't on the side where the last hit is and they just escape it. Maybe you could give it a stronger pulling effect? If that's too overpowered then ignore me. xD Dash U-Smash works wonders, trust me. ^-^ One of my bread-and-butter combos: D-Throw, dash, U-Smash. Quick damage. Quote For some reason her new DSmash doesn't seem as strong as her original one. It's rather minor to me so it's not a problem but I'm just sayin'. I purposely made it like that, because it has three hitboxes and has pretty good range. I spam it anyway, and the knockback does get a lot stronger at higher percents. Quote Her Dash Attack goes REALLY far and most of the time for no reason. It hits the target a few times and then zooms past them. Perhaps that is what you were going for? Hit and run? If so then I understand and also ignore this. Weird, every time I use this it seems to combo into itself, and then leave the opponent ready to combo. Maybe I should start playing some real people, to see if it can be DIed out of. Quote After using her Neutral Special and then doing a Bair... What does that even do? xD I haven't even been able to successfully hit someone with it yet. Not even a training dummy. That's pretty much it for me. Otherwise Zelda seems pretty okay to me. I do plan to revamp the 'Sacred' moves, b/c at the moment they're all pretty useless. Plans: - I'll probably map the B-Air to N-Air, and by tapping A you can hover or drag your opponent along with you. - F-Air will be put on B-Air, and it'll hit behind her [BThrow Aanimation]. Makes it a little less awkward. - N-Air will be mapped to F-Air: I'll probably give it a little more knockback and make her move forward, so this move can actually be used. =P Does that sound okay? Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: SnesS on October 01, 2009, 06:22:56 PM .Fade, whats ur new project?
Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: LavaLatte [.Fade] on October 01, 2009, 06:54:33 PM .Fade, whats ur new project? Right now I'm working on Blanka DK, and I'll clean up Zelda while I'm at it...maybe I'll even give Sheik a new move ^-^ I might also make a second Sheik thanks to Alma's 'Clone Engine', if DK turns out well. I wanna base it off a combo of Cammy/Chun-Li/Juri. That should be pretty fun. But yeah. My real goal, Project Phantom? Until I have a reasonable amount of free time on my hands, it's still only in my mind, ruminating an such. That's my portfolio as of now ^-^ Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: Ace Alpha on June 20, 2010, 08:17:14 PM I actually made a forum account just to post on this thread. EchoBlade Zelda is by far the best PSA of Zelda I've seen so far. She's original, cool, and almost fully balanced. I'm going to start playing around and taking notes on what could be adjusted for V2, since I'd love to see a perfect version of EchoBlade.
-Her side-B making her invulnerable is actually very overpowered, and is probably the main reason why I'm reluctant to use her against other people. Ideas: +Simply take out the invulnerability. The attack itself is so versatile that she probably won't end up being knocked away anyway. +Make the Reckless Charge a Sacred Light charged ability, making it so that it can't be used over and over in succession. You can give her a Din's Fire-esque attack while not charged...I miss Din's Fire... +Make Reckless Charge an attack like Ike's Quick Draw side+B, although that'd take away from the originality that defines EchoBlade. Edit#1: -Her F-smash is really cool, but I think that it's a bit too strong to it's good speed. I was playing a few matching and found how easy it was to link this to a dash attack and K.O. at about 70% or so. Ideas: +Cut the speed and keep the power the same. +Cut the power a bit and keep the speed the same. I'll update anything else I see on this thread. Title: Re: 'Echo Blade' Zelda: Needs Feedback for Balancing~ Post by: songeflemy on June 21, 2010, 07:49:43 AM Do NOT post on topics that are in the pages 3 or under. It's very annoying.
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