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Has anyone noticed who I always use as the target up to Shiek?[/list]

Could you just upload the files to import into the pacs and motion files so they're compatible with mods like Brawl- and PM and other movesets?

Can't they do it themselves?

 Holymoly bro. Both of those are beautiful. Seeing how no one else is requesting.

can you do one for princess peach? or somehow make it more cinematic? she is mah favorite =3  As if no one could tell.

Can you make one for Sonic and Snake

If you look at the Youtube Comments, more people have asked for Ike. And so I will do him 1st. If more people request Peach then I'll do her after, but Lucario and Wario are also in the lineup.


Same as above.

I don't know which files they are :\

Well if you want to port them to other Movesets, you'll have to do it manually with BrawlBox and maybe Smash Attacks.

Hm... nice. How exactly are you doing this though? Is it movie editing with a PC program, or is this actually happening in game?

That said... Ken and Ryu deserve a cinematic FS :af:

I know how to import/export stuff inside a fighter.pac with BB but I don't know where all the files I need to switch around are (sorry I'm new to hacking), that's why I was asking for them

i think i will do something like this for gotenks´s super ghost kamikaze attack(FS version)
so the camera is in front of gotenks like as link´s here
thanks for the idea xd

It happens in Game.


The only thing I could give you would be the animations. But as for the Events, you need to do it manually.

I test the Marth one and it's awesome, but the trouble is that the opponents have more chances to evade the final smash... There is a way to fix this?
Anyway, the animations are good!.

You could go into PSA and alter the Time Manipulation Event. The 1st Parameter alters how much time slows down, and the 2nd one alters how long time will slow down for. I did my best to make sure the Final Smash works the same way.

Lemme know if you're gonna do Ryu and Ken. I think its mad cool the way you do that.

I think I'll hold that till I'm done with every character. But if it takes too long, you can learn how to do it. Anyone good with Animating and PSA can easily do this.

That so?

what did you do with the camera? Because to my understanding the camera is attached to the XRotN. I wasn't aware you could rotate it.

The Camera Closeup Event (1A040500) is what is used.
1st Parameter Changes the Zoom Time.
2nd Parameter is currently Undefined. (I thought it changes which bone it zooms onto which would be nice so I wouldn't have to scale the TransN Bone)
3rd and 4th Parameters change the camera Rotation up and down/left and right Respectively.

These are amazing Kuro Neko. To top it off you even did my favorite character first :D . Also if I may put in a request, may I ask for Zelda.

Thank you so much for these, I love them.

3rd and 4th parameters... thats good to know. I might mess with that at one point...

Cinamatic Gears 3rd Gum Gum Pistol ftw

What happens if you use these in the air?

 I understand. Can't wait till you do Ike's =3

I'm doing Ike 1st. And who I'll do after will be based on what people say. Currently in the list now is Wario, Peach, Snake, Sonic, and Lucario.


Still Cinematic.

These are classy :srs:  Good work.

My computer likes this so much it won't stop playing the videos on repeat. XD

Are you making these for all characters? The ones I'd like to see most would have to be Ness, Lucas, and Ike.

Yes I am, and Ike is next. Ness and Lucas will be added to the waiting list.

Oh cool, the ones you have so far are great. Keep up the good work!

your works is really awesome and really amazing idea :)

i would ask you something do you think they would have a way for your animation of camera are directly in the final.pac for can use others psa wich touch the fit.pac and moveset.pac ?

I used Camera Zoom In Event in PSA for the camera shots. Can't open a final.pac file in PSA Can you?

Your Cinematic Final Smashes remind me of Dissidia's EX Bursts. Great job! :)

I want to see one for Meta Knight...-but I want to challenge you...

Make a completely custom, from-scratch animation for Meta Knight that flows perfectly into the cape swing with him saying "Behold my power!"

This'll just add Meta Knight to the waiting list. As for that challenge... let's wait till I do Meta Knight.

I've posted what I've thought about each Camera Zoom effect in both Marth and Link's videos.

But, I guess there's no harm in writing them here:

Marth:
I actually really liked how that turned out.
And I like with others, it makes it less "meh" whenever you use it. But you should've kept the original starting animation but with the camera change. Maybe also make the focus from his blade-down. If you understand what I'm trying to get.

Link:
Wow, I like how you did this one. It looks alot better.
Maybe you should try including a screen or background tint while the Final Smash is happening. Like an orangy-gold tint for Link, a Sky Blue for Marth, etc. I think it would make them be more visually appealing.
However, I still think you should apply the camera effects to the original starting animations. Just my opinion.

Just for future notice.

Oh yeah, I really like what you're doing with these. Keep it up.

I request Ness, Peach, Zelda, and Falco.

Added Falco to the waiting list.

 Okay, i've got an idea for Ike.

this is how it should be.

When you press it.

it should be him doing his "i fight for my friends" taunt." zoomed in from the back but angled down. then it activates.

Now as he's flying to his opponent the camera should be following him. when they are in the air, try to make the camera circle around him, like literally circling him. before the final attack is going to commence, zoom in on his face and make him go "HMPH like in his down smash" then as a to finish it, make then make the camera follow as the character is being dragged down to their doom.

I think him saying "prepare yourself" is better, imo.

This ^



And I would like to request Bowser.

 Agreed.

Sounds good. I'll see what I can do.


Added to the Waiting List

For Bowser, I think he should laugh with arms crossed before fluidly transitioning to the Final Smash animation.

I was thinking he should do his taunt where he roars and then he transforms.

Ike should do the prepare yourself line. It'd also flow alot better. Or the line "You're Through!".

I think Bowser should have an intense roar beforehand.


and Kuro Neko, did you read my previous post?

Yes I did. And I don't think "You're through!" could actually be used.

I would like to request Ganondorf... and my idea for him is:
Took an intimidating pose (Showing his part of the Triforce), maybe like this:
And then laugh like in his up taunt.
After that, I don't know, maybe he could take the pose to transform in the Beast Ganon but with camera rotations and pausing at different moments of the animation to see the transformation. When he's completely transformed, the camera can be in front of him to show the opponents being paralized or buried, and finally, the camera following the characters being sent to fly and back to Ganon to saw it returning to normal.

Lol you guys seem to be flooding him with requests.

Its cool and all what he's doing, but its not thaaaaaaaaaaat hard to do. And he seems to have accumulated a rather large waiting list. Why don't some of you try to do it yourself?

Just a suggestion. No harm intended.

Yes, that waiting list is getting rather large... lol.  And it'd be nice to have others help out. I don't have ideas for every character, nor the time to do them all. (Although it does not take too long to make one... lol)



Added him to the waiting list.

ah ok thank you for your answer i thought we can but i miss so
good continuation :)

Did you ever consider that most of use don't know how PSA works, nor have enough interest to learn it?

I didn't think so.

But that doesn't change the fact that:

1) These don't take very long
2) It only requires using one event with fairly self explanatory parameters

It doesn't take advanced PSA knowledge at all.  Any beginner at PSA could do this with a little bit of experimentation and a sense of artistic license.  It's not like he's completely remaking the Final Smashes.  It's something simple yet effective and nice.  I could even do a tutorial on the Camera Closeup event used if people really want.

Yeah you're right. Maybe I'm just lazy... lol

Nah sir, you aren't the lazy one.  The fact that you're doing this at all proves that you aren't the lazy one. 

Lol you wanna go there?

I don't give two [censored]s if you wanna learn how to PSA or not. But bombarding the man with requests is the fastest way to get someone to stop taking requests. In less then 2 days this thread went from 1 to 4 pages of almost purely requests.

Instead of being so adamant about not caring how to learn how to PSA open your mind a bit instead of reducing yourself to a nooblet who has to beg for anything cool.

SDoom is correct. Kuro isn't the lazy one. Its easy to change how the camera moves in-game and it doesn't require hard core knowledge of PSA to do it.

You took a harmless suggestion to better yourself and turned around into an insult. Good job noob.

the hacks are cool, but it doesnt work right in my game. perhaps you guys could help me figure it out.
when i use these hacks in my game the camera doesnt move at all.(not even the normal zoom in)
anybody got any idea?(note: i ususally have 'unrestricted camer' code turned on, would that be the cause?)

Most likely.  Are there any codesets in particular you're using as well?

I have the Unrestricted Camera code as well, and the animations works perfectly for me.

Are you using PAL or JPN Brawl?

US Brawl.
i cant think of what other codes are messing with it.
here what i have on these days:
one hit kills - subspace
file patch code(of course)
no huds
no tags.......

EDIT: i am the stupid. i had forgotten i happened across a 'no closeups' code a LONG time ago and forgot that it may still be on. it looks like it technically is camera hack related.

ill message back later when i get the chance to let yall know if it was the problem.
(i dont remember having the code on BEFORE getting these hacks, but it most likely the case)

Well now... The only thing I can think of would be character related hacks... if not, idk what it is.

EDIT: I say this again... Well now...

Fantastic job on Ike's. Just as I thought it'd be.

Ah man. That looks beautiful. Nice work on Ike's Final Smash.  :)

I never saw anything like this before. Good job on these FS's! :D

That Great Aether looks beautiful! Fantastic job on the spinning camera. I'm assuming you had to continuously insert new camera close-ups for each rotation?

And I'd love to see what you can do with Pokemon Trainer.

Yes I did have to have sequential Camera closeups for the rotation. About 4 or 5 of them. And I'll add Pokemon Trainer to the List. Although that could be a hassle seeing I'd have to animate each of his Pokemon... The Camera work shouldn't be too much though.

this is epic!
too bad there can come more than one smash ball out per match... but that's not ur fault xDDD

it would be great to code the smash ball to come out only at the last 30 or 45 seconds of a timed match, or when there are only 2 players left with 1 stock each

May I suggest that you add a poll asking which character should be next?  

I was wondering how but I found it. And that Balloon will be added to the waiting list. It'll be added to the poll if another person requests it.

Also, if Jigglypuff's not already on the list, could you make one for her?

when making zelda, do i asume correct you'll do sheik as well?

It'd make sense if I did.

These... are... amazing. Now I must download them and learn how to do them myself!
Awesome  job. 8) I can't wait to see Sonic and Lucario's final smashes.

Good luck with that. And your requests made them to the poll.

I request Jigglypuff, Wario, and DeDeDe.

Jiggs and Wairo made the poll. Dedede added to the waiting list.

awesome work on ike too :)

Wait, what?
...NOOOOO! ... I already voted for Zelda and I can't change my vote... :(
Ah well; better that they're added than not :)

Edit: I'd vote for Lucario which means he'd have more than zelda now  ;D

Ike looks nice man, but still, my favorite is Link by far.

Voted for Zelda.

Can't wait to see what you got up your sleeve with her..

mario should have this too
cuz of his Fire kamehameha
i think that will be more epic then just a transfrom(wario/sonic)

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Prepare to die. Jk.

Too good for words, man. watched all three of them, and you did an awesome job! wait, I just did discribe it with words... I guess not good enough, though

*prepares for flashflood.*
Voted for wario.

The topic was already flooded with requests yesterday.

Nice work with the final smashes. Really like what you've done so far.

And good luck with all dem requests....

I'm really loving these cinematic Final Smashes; it adds that extra "oomph" that most of them seem to be lacking.

Normally, I would vote for Sonic (since I main him quite a bit), but I voted Peach because I'm interested in seeing what you might be able to do with her FS (I'm too stupid to try anything myself... yet). I say "might" because... well... Peach's FS isn't exactly as action-y as most of the other FSes in the game, and I don't think it really lends itself all that well to a cinematic makeover (she just dances and summons a bunch of peaches. I'd hardly call that much to work with). That said, I figure it'd be a good challenge for someone who has far more experience at these things than I do (like I said: I'm stupid when it comes to animations and such).

Actually, these animations have been ported from their victory taunts. If you look at the PSAs I've worked on, my animations are like... idk but it's not in a professional level.

y cant it be just in the final.pac?

The camera shots are done in PSA. Can't open a final.pac in PSA can you?

no PSA would crash, and the final.pac just contains FS locked graphics and articles.

So my intuition is a bit late. That doesn't make it wrong, does it?  r)

Yeah!! Sonic is tied with Zelda and Lucario's in the lead!
Happy.  :angel:

Ike's final smash is amazing!! I'm excited to see how all these turn out. Lucario, Peach, and Sonic have quite a lot of votes, and although I'm looking forward to Sonic's, I wish there was for love for Ness  :P

I'm leaving the poll on till the end of the day. From there, I can pick who I'll do next. But it'll probably take a bit longer cause I just got KH3D. And that will eat up a bit of my time... lol

Um could u make one for pit and ganon

I have a few suggestions for the ones that are currently done:

Marth: Maybe have the cinematic sequence end at a bird's eye view of Marth before he attacks?

Link: I think the choice of some of the "shots" could be a bit better. The shot from behind the one being attacked seems a bit tacky to me...

You Should Do Snake. His would be pretty Bad Ace.

I agree with the Marth change. Applying a birds-eye view would give it a nice touch.

And with Link, poses are good. But like Velen said, the behind shot seems out of place. Maybe also include the Triforce pose. (Before the actual grab) Have the beginning part zoomed in, then once the grab happens, zoom out with the shots.

For Marth's, I made it out of boredom, so I didn't really do much to it. The Idea came from this TAS video by someone on youtube called versat13. But I wouldn't mind giving Marth a little something extra. I was actually thinking of giving him a behind diagonal view of the characters flying away.

As for Link, I couldn't really think of what shots to take. I just took some off the back of my head. Although some people managed to like it, so I'll leave it as is for now. Suggestions would be nice.

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Alright, the next character has become official. Normally it'd be tied with Sonic and Lucario, but Azure_Shadow said he would vote Lucario if he was in the poll at the time instead of voting Zelda.

Question...

With Marth's Final Smash hit, the attack, would it be possible to make the hit he does... show up again? Like... Instead of the one hit, the hit box would actually hit and stun the opponent say... 3 or 4 times over before sending them off into oblivion?

I ask because if its possible, then you could manipulate the camera to give multiple close ups at different angles at the time of impact that would simulate 'flash back' type of effects.

Was that confusing?

I can make multiple hitboxes on the hit, but I don't want to do that because I want to make sure the Final Smash still work the same like normal. The only problem would be that the other players won't see where they are... lol

Question! Wouldn't that be possible if the hitbox just didn't have any knockback or knockback growth?
Not to give you even more work.
It's just that these things are really some of the best-looking Final Smashes we've seen on the vault.

Yes it is possible. But may I ask why?

add mario to the list cuz it will be epic with his FS

i'd vote for mario as well

Oops, I didn't make that clear. :-[
I meant that wouldn't Kagemaru's idea for a 'flashback' effect be possible if Marth's first hitboxes (up until the final one) didn't have any knockback or knockback growth? You know, so that it still works like it normally would.

I works like it normally would already... And the problem with that is if the person manages to dodge the attack, The animation would play like Marth did hit something. So adding those Camera effects can still happen even if he hit nothing.

You mean like Uzumaki Barrage/Naruto Rendan?

Ohhhhh.... That makes sense.
But that can be fixed easily enough. I can fix it, if you want.
Then again, even doing this in the first place would involve changing the animations and that might be something you don't want to do. If that's the case, don't worry about it. Animation is very difficult to learn (which is the main reason I can't animate). Why should anyone expect you to animate if your talent is something else?
So if you're not used to animating, or you don't want to do all that work, don't worry about it. Marth's cinematic FS looks awesome enough already. :)

You could just add an If Hitbox has connected then go to the camera zoom effect. And you'll either have to freeze time or increase the hitlag on the FS.

I don't have enough experience with using If Statements and the like... I've dealt with Requirements though...

That's why I was saying I could do it for you. But I don't think Marth needs to have this effect if it's going to make things harder for you.

oh good, i was thinking on making a suggestion about Link's FS, but i thought it would come off as rude as you had already made a 'cinematic FS' for him and i didnt want to bombard you as you are already booked as it is.

my suggestion to change Link's to be like how it was in the original Brawl trailer:
Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo Wii Trailer - E3 Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbetJKOQB7k#ws)

it could zoom out like that and then i dont know, whatever you want at that point.
(although that angle was while they were mid-air so it might not work the same if the ground will obstruct the view)

KH3D Has eaten up my time... I haven't even worked on Lucario AT ALL Today... Goodbye 1 Per Day Streak... Oh well. I'll work on it tomorrow, and that I will make sure of.



I could actually do something like that, however, he dashes so fast, it's not even maybe half a second. So I don't think it's worth having to do it.

yeah i agree it would make final smash alot more interesting.

Just a thought for lucario, not sure if it is possible or not. Can you have the final smash happen from lucario's point of view? Like a top down view and the camera follows the direction of the beam. (left and right) Would be amazing to see something like this.

i agree

i agree also :o

I can Have an over the top view. But my concern is if the camera follows the rotation or not. If not, I could just zoom it out.

Personally. I think something more in reference to Dragon Ball Z would be more fitting for Lucario in terms of cinematics, but that's just me.

Top-Down view of the beam while matching the rotation doesn't seem like a good idea to me honestly. Unless you intend on playing alone. Otherwise it's kinda unfair for the other players. Plus, it would be very disorienting for them.

I think it should start as a close up when he starts, then the camera looks up at Lucario when he's rising. The camera is still looking up at Lucario while he's charging his beam. Then it switches to a zoomed out birds-eye view of Lucario firing his beam.

Or have the camera behind Lucario when he's firing his beam. But still at the birds-eye view.

I originally intended to have the normal camera when he fires, but the idea of a Bird Eye view sounded good to me. Now that I look at it, I kinda agree.

I'm just about done working on the Final Smash. But before I even release it, I want to know if I should go with the Bird Eye view, or normal camera when he shoots his LAZOR. Shall I make a poll? If so then expect release tomorrow.

if u make a poll i'd vote for normal view, since i totally agree with velen, it'll be almost impossible to dodge

I suggested to have the camera birds-eye but have it behind Lucario, then the players could at see that they're moving.

What dash? Im talking about the camera during the sword slash sequence....i cant ever remember seeing Link do a 'dash' animation during his FS at all, he just warps to the target doesnt he?

Actually no. He dashes to his opponent if the Enemy is out of reach.

Yeah, the bird's eye view would be kinda hard to dodge. But for me, maybe that's a good thing. Lucario's final smash is so easy to escape, it's ridiculous. My sister and I play against each other, and neither of us ever gets hit with it anymore. You just need to time your jumps right and stay out of it's range long enough...
So I'll vote for the bird's eye view. Just my opinion.

Very cool

Are we allowed to request PSA characters, like Cloud, Viewtiful Joe, etc?

Wait till I finish every character.

a idea for sonic, holding a ring. It disappeared and he turns into super

Seems my idea is quite popular for Lucario. Hopefully it wins the poll. :D

This Morning it was Normal over Yours...

I wasn't here this morning. Oh well, in any case it is ahead now. xD

Um... I had a similar idea, but it's probably easier. Sonic already has a pose where he's holding a Chaos Emerald, and it's the Chaos Emeralds he uses to go into his super form, so...
I think he ought to be holding a Chaos Emerald. Again, it's just my opinion.

that would look cool actually. with how Kuro has been doing these awesome moves using Sonic's victory pose with a chaos emerald for start-up would look nice

The People have spoken! Lucario's Final Smash will be given a Birds Eye view. After I do a few fixes, I'll release the Final Smash tomorrow.

Awesome! I look forward to it. Thanks Kuro Neko. :D

congrats on ur idea it was very creative i must say :D .

I still think that a bird eye view behind Lucario would look better... Then you can still get the "umph" of the attack and still see everyone who's playing. (While still difficult to maneuver, but still better.)

Working on fixing up the Camera shots and the like. Expect release soon.

Aww you couldn't do kirby's cinematic final smash along with the "fighter kirby PSA"?

Save PSAs for when I'm done every character.

Lucario's is nice. That music... or sound rather... i don't know....

Btw, I think you took birds-eye view to a direct meaning. It shouldn't be exactly over Lucario's head, but at an angle where Lucario can still angle is beam properly and still look epic.

And the part where they're looking from underneath.

Would you mind if I adjust some camera angles for Lucario for a better understanding of what I'm talking about?

Feel free.

dat song :srs:
it gave me some severe brain damage i doubt i'll ever ecover from...
other than that it looks nice, although im not sure about the bird view...

I would opt for Normal Camera, but Majority Rules...

Perhaps Mario?

You could even replicate the camera view that they used in the adverts for SSBB.

well that one guy is gonna tweak the bird eye view so it should be alright.
hey Kuro i just realized, can you add C.Falcon to the waiting list/poll too?
(wait, is the camera for his final smash perma-locked? it feels like no one has made a hack to alter that at all)

Permalock as it...

what? im not sure i understand.

Camera could never rotate, even while pausing during his final smash.

as in... (I'm sorry..lol)

I have a few Ideas if you ever get round to doing Sonic? That is if you need any help with ideas.

Kuro Neko XIII, I don't quite understand the camera bounderies... What are they bounding? (other than the camera)

That's really the only thing annoying me...

Then you better hope that he wins the poll.


I made an earlier post here explaining what the parameters are.

oh, my bad.
by permalock i mean: is that particular cinematic FS for C.Falcon unmovable or could your skills allow you to actually change the camera's movement? cuz i had an idea, but that time will come at a later time...

That's for the close-up.

I'm talking about the boundaries. You have one in Lucario's FinalHold Subaction. I'm trying to modify it and add another one but it's oddly confusing...

So i was thinking
would it be possible to edit Pits FS and make it more MvC like by the use of cameras?

Seems Zelda and Sonic are tied..........I have an idea for both of them. Have Sonic in a charging spin dash stance and then he goes Super Sonic. As for Zelda, have her perfom her Up Taunt then she takes out the Light Arrow.

that song in that lucario vid.... GAWD MAH EARS!!!! X_X

I believe it's how it was animated that makes it so cinematic. I probably won't do much when I do him.


I simply left it in there as is cause it was there...


Yes I might, but let's wait till he gets picked.

Didn't Zelda win last round?

Looks like she's winning again..

This time she's actually next. She got tied with Lucario last time. But a statement from a certain person made Lucario the winner.

Edit: my memory is bad... Lucario was tied with Sonic...

Feedback on the Lucario from watching the video..

Looks great and all, but when he actually fires at the opponent, where you can control where the beam is going, should be the same/original camera. The new one makes things too confusing, but keep everything else.

Only thing is that, still a great CFS.

I actually had a poll if Lucario should have a Birds eye view or not. And look at the results... I too would've opted for the Normal Camera.

but you're the creator!
you should do what you believe best...

This is true, polls are good for getting an idea of what the crowd thinks, but you have veto powers ;)

Agree with Jokekid and Tormod.

Its asking people for advice, keyword asking.

At the end of the day, its not that bad, so we could all probably move on.

I made an update to the Lucario File. To those complaining (complaining really?) about the Birds Eye View.

Nah, not really complaining. At least not me. Just trying to look out for ya in ways of making the hack better.

To be completely honest, I've yet to try any of these out myself, just judging from a viewers point of view for now.

It's a good song isn't it? :af:

hows everybody doin?

can you do GW? and make him either raise the #1 flag or ring a bell before he transforms?

I think GW would be hard to do, especially with animations.

As long as he uses already used animations, he should be able to do it. Seems like most of the work he does is just in PSA manipulating subactions, cameras, and time speed.

Awesome work so far, I look forward to the next ones. Also, please could you add Samus to the waiting list?

Yes G&W would be hard to do. considering the fact that He only has 2 Dimensions... But I added him to the waiting list.


Added.

Zelda's looks awesome!

I feel bad... I'm making changes after I submitted... Simply cause I think it would look better...

I don't see anything wrong with making changes prior to submitting. It's your hack; if you think something can be improved, then by all means improve it.

dat stage... is creepy!

dat FS... is epic!

I like Zelda's, Great Job!

Nice... I like the blink Zelda does before she shoots.

Quick question: Would you be interested in doing this for a work in progress? I've got a nice surprise for Sora's Final Smash and was wondering if you wanted to work your magic on it.

Save PSAs after I finish every character.... wait I'm curious...

can I say a idea for sonic?

Its ok. I'm sure I could figure out how to camera manip. You explained it to me once before. *lets your curiosity fester*

When he's picked. Then you may do so.

awesome keep it up i think its funny when the computer uses the final smash it is easy to get away lol but other that that there epic

Very well done. looking forward to the other characters
notice that in the pole fox doesnt appear

I think I have an idea if Pit is chosen next...

Is that a request?

i have a small request:

Why...

just to satisfy my sick fantasies
lol

I thought I had the sick fantasies...

lol
anyways nice hacks bro keep it up...

Those sonic fans are gonna be so happy...

Why do I get the feeling that the music is the English dub of a song from TWEWY (The World Ends With You)

Because it is.

as anyone noticed who I always use as the target?
Yes we did.

lolwut?

anyway, cant wait till you're finished, with all characters :af:
will you also make a full pack?

I plan on doing so.

I think your OP has a request for ideas for Sonic's Final Smash, so here's one that's been mentioned before:
How about making Sonic do his victory animation with the Chaos Emerald before going super? Since he always uses the Chaos Emeralds before he turns into Super Sonic.

(Yes, I'm a Sonic fan.)

I think for sonic the final smash could be that he's holding the last emerald, or he's holding a ring the ring disappear  and he turns into super?

shadow uses rings to turn super i think, while sonic uses the emeralds

if you say so

im not completely sure, but i think i remember shadow turning super using the rings on his wrists in sonic X... xD

Naaah.... The rings on his arms keep Shadow from using his full power so he doesn't run out during a battle. He uses the Chaos Emeralds to go into his super form.
(Being the Sonic geek, I watched Sonic X about 10 times. Don't laugh; it's a good series. Especially seasons 5 and 6, IMO.)

yeah i know right lol

Sonic Advance 2 : Super Sonic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtzNsEHWNns#)

0:23-0:39

Take all my $ if you do it like that

Hey I Have an idea but it's hard to explain do you speak spanish?

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well pay attention, sorry for my english, well watch this video Super Mario Galaxy - Final Boss + End Credits (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0nr2jQR3DA#) look at the 3:35-3:40 and see how the stroke is repeated, my idea it's that maybe you can do that when sonic turns into super sonic, well you can repeat the transformation, and you can do the same when super sonic turns into sonic, tell me ¿What do you think about my idea?

U mean like a MvC type of special where the screen shows a big image of the character?

yes!!! That would look so awesome to see for Sonic!! :DDD and you don't even need a starting voice like you do with the others, just have that happen the once he's done absorbing the emeralds he could use the same voice that he uses when he normally does his final.

Do you guys even know if that's possible?...
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I took my hands on Animation.... although they either look around bad or half decent.

lol well im sure it's still great considering you seem to be the only one doing this. XD

I feel you should do what you had done with the other ones. it fits the theme better.
Sonic fan shoot out in 3, 2, ....

I just have a question. Would models found in a FitResult.pac be able to show up in game? If it can't then we can scratch out the idea for him using a chaos emerald. I also looked around in PSA and found a model changer in the Other section of the SubAction. Answer these questions then I'll be able to decide what to do. Either that or I'll find out myself... But not now though. I need my sleep...

dont the emeralds show up in his FS? O.o

Yes but they fly away. I'm referring to the one he takes out during his Win2.

what i mean is, cant you use one of those?

I guess I can... that would mean I would have to animate the emeralds... all 7 of them...

Pfft. If you need me to, I'll find one of the seven emerald models, add it to his .pac as a new external graphic effect, and send you the file. I read a post somewhere about adding external graphic effects via hexing, and it sounded simple enough. That way all you have to do is attach it to a bone on his hand (maybe LhaveN or RhaveN) in PSA and there you go.

Edit: I've never tried this approach before, but I don't foresee any problems if you'd like to try.

Well have fun with that... lol

...So does that mean 'yes'?...

Do as you please... never really messed with External GFX. Nor did I know you can add new ones... Also the 7 Emeralds are 1 model unless you take the one from his Result.pac

'Kay. It might take a while (several days) though- everything suddenly got busy. :srs:

I'll be sure to give you credit...

I am having some problems with Sheik and Zelda...

The other ones all work great and look amazing.
As for Sheik and Zelda... they pull out the arrow, while zoomed in on them, but do not shoot anything. It seems like the arrow is trying to fire, but is stuck or something. At pointblank range, the arrow does 3% (ish) and gives the lagged knockback, but with pretty much no distance.

In case it matters, I am using Riivolution (Though all of my other ones work, and I've had mods on Zelda before)

I've used Riivolution before, and I remembered that some characters don't have support for FitMotionEtc.pac files when used. I remember Zelda being one of those characters. Probably the same case for Shiek too.

actually, they are supported. they're just in a different location.

Well I used the one with the Gecko Setup so I probably don't know this. Please do tell what it is.

I think it's Common.pac.

Is this also why I can't place any Sheik or ZSS PSAs into folders without getting it to freeze when I select them?

Also, where is the common.pac file, and is that the exact name?

Edit: Found the common.pac and modded the file. Not sure if it answers about my Sheik and ZSS PSAs yet though.

Edit 2: Nevermind... Still doesn't work properly, and has the same problem as before. Guess I'll probably just have to leave out Zelda/Sheik + Samus/ZSS in the zoomins.

The FitZelda and FitSheik pac files go in their respective folders from /fighter

The fitmotions are put in the common.pac and in the same folder as the fitxxxxx.pac.

^ What he said. You have to do both, if my understanding is correct. ^

Also, I've been playing with adding external GFX (Sonic's Chaos Emerald). I was able to add an effect, but when I tried it I ended up with a black-and-white runtrace, so I'm not sure if it just rearranged the GFX or if I still don't know what I'm doing.
I'm going to be gone for a couple days and then College starts, but I still can't see this as taking too long to figure out. Once I do, I'll PM you the file.
In the meantime, if everyone's too impatient to wait for a week (or two if things are much more complicated than I imagined), maybe working on another character first would keep the streak going until I finish the new .pac file.

Alright then. I guess I'll start a poll then.

This is amazing, thank you so much

Currently, I have the files in question set up as follows:

root/brawlmods/custom2/Fighter/Zelda
- FitZelda.pac
- FitZelda[01-04].pac & .pcs
- FitZeldaFinal.pac
- FitZeldaMotionEtc.pac

root/brawlmods/custom2/System
- common.pac
- common3.pac
- ef_common.pac

In the common.pac, I have opened it with brawlbox , right clicked the FitZeldaMotionEtc.pac, and replaced it with the same one that is inside  the Zelda folder.

Still doing the same thing...
Is my common.pac in the wrong folder?

I think it'd be safe to apply the changes to both the FitMotionEtc.pac and the FitCharacter.pac files.

Hey I had a small idea for Captain Falcon's Cinematic Final Smash (if you take ideas that is. Otherwise that's fine)

Do you think that it would be possible to make it sorta based on this scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw)

I'm not expecting a perfect recreation though if you like my idea. Just something based on that.

Side note: Can't wait for when you do Sonic and Pokémon Trainer in the future.

Can you elaborate on what exactly you mean?

well I don't know the contents of the common.pac But maybe you should do the same thing you did with the FitMotionEtc.pac with the FitCharacter.pac

Nope, it's in it's proper location

Rename your common files and add "_en" after the name and before the .pac
So they'd be "common_en.pac" and "common3_en.pac"

EDIT:
She is not remaking the final smashes... Just adding camera effects to them.

Plus, Captain Falcon already has his Final Smash a cinematic...

She... lol Do you really think I'm a girl? lol

knew that was coming lol

I wonder how many think I'm a girl... Maybe I'll post an Off-Topic post about it... (most likely not... lol)

It's obviously because of your picture... I mean, any idiot can tell that that's a woman's hand and not a man's... I mean... Some people are so stupid these days
/sarcasm

It's actually a teacher that stabbed himself... which is a guy...

i thought you were a girl because your profile picture when you released the first final smash had a little girl

... I was being sarcastic(I think I'll edit it to make it more obvious now)

That little girl is an original character of mine... one of my favorites.


lol. So that's the case.

so then who are you working on since it's not Sonic anymore?

There's a poll at the top of the page

Oh joy! A tie-breaker with Samus and Mario!

Lucario's Final Smash....
The music is so funny  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

My apologies... and yeah, it was probably your original avatar.

Actually I had another one before that. It was a Black Cat with a XIII on it.

Finally had a chance to try it in game, and let me tell ya how beautiful they really are man.

Love Link's specially.

It's too bad for 3 or even 4 player matches though.

=x

Also they don't work properly while facing left. The camera focuses as if it were facing right. There's not much that can be done about it though. Other than making an if statement for facing either left or right each with it's own code.

So yeah.

Ya know what? Imma gonna try using If Statements on the next winner of the poll. And if that's successful, I'll update the previous files.

that'd be awesome!

0_O That WOULD be awesome.
Hey, I'm back, and I have an update. My insertion of a new model file for Sonic's GFX was semi-successful; Brawl recognizes that I have a new GFX model, but it doesn't have it in the same place as I thought it would be. So I'll be experimenting a bit more and testing to see if it 'rearranged' the External GFX and if it has any discernable effect on Sonic's moves (I tried it in-game and didn't see anything unusual yet). Hopefully I'll have it done before the week is out, but you know what it's like when you're learning something totally new...
Good thing that learning this stuff is fun! :)

So I have this idea about the camera zoomed in in front, then zooms out as the Lazer is fired. Again, people wouldn't be able to see where they are going so I'll probably make 2 versions with the other being a normal camera view right when the lazer is fired.

EDIT: I tried the use of If Statements and it was a success!!! I'll update the older files after I'm done with Samus. I need a new idea for her cause her laser is just a flat oval thing... I was hoping that the screen would white out with the laser but that plan failed. Maybe I could use the screen tint but I've failed using that before... Anyone wanna help me with getting a white color?

Well, P:M Ike's Quick Draw crit tints the screen red. So I'm sure it's possible to make it white.

Well how am I supposed to make white with Red Blue and Green?

Set Red, Blue and Green to 0. Or high (and equal) numbers like 255; it depends on if they're additive or subtractive.

probably 255 255 255, since normally 0 0 0 is black

In Hexadecimal 255 is FF (They were all values which are usually in Hexadecimal). I tried it, but it turns to something similar to yellow. But using 255 actually did make it white. Just need to make sure it can White out the whole screen (Or close to it). There are a few Unidentified Values I'm messing with.

MvC type of final smash?

No. I want the whole screen to white out cause I found that the laser would only take up half the screen if I place the camera in the direct center of it.

Kid Buu's Final Smash tints the screen white at the end:

http://youtu.be/GEJhE1rNgsI?t=4m28s (http://youtu.be/GEJhE1rNgsI?t=4m28s)  

@ 4:28 *Cough*Excuse the commentary, you may want to lower your volume...

So yes it's definitely possible.  Just have high and equal amounts of red, green and blue.  If you want the screen to be pure white, have a ton of alpha as well.

I can say now that Samus is done! I'll update the previous files with the If Statements then I'll start a new Poll.

Nice work on all of these.

Would it be possible to make it so that it makes it look like you are controlling Samus in first person when she does her final smash? I think that would be cool

While I was working on this, I found that Samus' laser was nothing but 2 flat ovals that only cover half the screen if the camera was directly in the middle of it... But then again if it was DIRECTLY in the middle, you probably wouldn't even see the laser... lol

Updates are done! Poll is up, Thank you and Good Night!

Curious, why didn't you do the intro animation thing for some of the characters?

I looked at her Winning Animations, and can't see what I could use... So I simply left out the animating. And because of that, It shouldn't desync!

I'm curious, will there be a time where you will be doing these types of cinematic final smashes for some of the hacked characters?

I've said this once and I'll say it again...

I'm saving PSAs for when I'm done with all the characters.

Maybe you need to put that in the OP so people will stop asking you about it.
Still testing GFX, and I don't know why what I'm doing hasn't worked... I'll figure it out or I'll stay up all night Friday trying... :srs:

I am cursious how jigglypuff will be :3

you have done a extremly great work!

to be honest this one seems a bit lazier than the other ones...

 it may seem lazier only because it's samus. why don't you make her do a taunt like you did with the other. like the Salute jet booster one? then she fire. i do like the idea of being pulled with the laser though

Well it's not like Link's or Ike's where they have Multi-Hit combos. But then again, I may just be lazy... I've also been working on other things.

also, samus' FS is epic because you see how huge the beam is, you kinda loose that feeling when you're inside the beam...

Apparently this is what happens when I start to lose imagination... I think of something that I think looks good but in the end... it's all meh...

so nobody wants to see how PIT FS would look cinematic style? :srs:

JK

lol. He's in the waiting list. He's just not being voted.

Actually, once pit's comes, i have a cool idea for it.

You can leave the startup zoom, but then make the screen scroll/zoom to Palutena and then zoom out to normal.

And people seem to like the Zelda series

Only thing though is that nobody has requested for Toon Link...

Toon Link's FS is the same as Link's. With knockback(?) and graphical differences.

So if you were to make a cinematic version for it, it'd have to be different than Link's.

Not necessarily.

Oh oh oh
I can't wait to see Peach's  :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:
(Because I like her) :P

yea peach's final smash is kinda like pits too :P

Ganon is next with a Whopping 14 Votes against 4 and 5... Amazing...

why not make mario after samus since he was a tie in the poll mario/samus?

I figured that the people who voted for the winning character would pass on their votes to another character.

Me and you both brother me and you both.

Yay!, Finally, I will be waiting to see what you do with the final smash of Ganon!.

I have an idea for Ganondorf. I hope PAT0 Animations will work with me...

Epic, Maybe I Can Use With My Upcoming PSA

So my idea failed. I had an idea where I use PAT0 animations on Ganon's hand so I can make a Triforce appear on his hand as he does his Win 1 Animation. Appearantly PAT0 Animations don't work on Ganon, so I decided to scrap that idea. I like what I made though so I'll post it as is as soon as I fix up a few bugs.

You should do Mario next because he's my favorit (and best at playing) character.

Better hope he wins then...

Okay, I have a confession to make, and that is that I didn't know what I was getting into. :srs:
The good news is, I added a new GFX model to Sonic's .pac. The game recognizes it and doesn't freeze, and there are no glitches with his other effects.
What's the bad news, then? The Chaos Emerald doesn't show up. I'd like to say that this is because the original files (in both the result.pac and the final.pac) don't have textures- they use some kind of alternate coloration, and as a result, the model doesn't have textures either and shows up as being invisible. However, I can't be sure this is the case because I can't add new textures to the emerald's surface to know whether it's there or not. I'm only used to working with PSA, so while I know this might be relatively simple to a model hacker, it's all new to me.
In any case, I'll be learning how to do model alterations and vertexes since I also need them for some future PSAs I have planned, but I don't have any experience right now and it may take me a long time to learn. I'd be able to continue if someone were to volunteer to color one of the emeralds, but without that help, it could be weeks or months before I know enough to do this myself. Model hacking seems very complex to me.
So, I apologize for promising something I couldn't deliver within the timeframe. There were complications I didn't expect and can't deal with until I learn more about modeling. For the record, I did add the external graphic effect... it's just invisible.  :P
So, please make a different version of Sonic's FS until I eventually learn enough that I can give the emerald a texture. Apologies again.

Alright then. Thanks for the effort though.

If you've still got the pac file, maybe I could take a stab at it? I think I can get the model to show up (or atleast construct a new one)

Great work with the Ganon one!.
I'm putting all of your Cinematics FS in my game but Ganon's is my favorite!.

Lovin' the Ganon FS. It would be more awesome if the Triforce of Power was glowing on his hand.

I wanted to do that, but I couldn't get it to work sadly...

I'm gonna leave the poll on for another day due to how late I finished Ganon's...

They all look so fancy so far, I can't wait to see the next one how will it be made =D
(And yes, TWEWY sequel so (zetta) badly)

Sure, I'll upload it and PM it to you. If you can get it to work, please tell me how so next time I add something without textures I can do it myself.

So the famous Italian Plumber wearing a red cap and blue overalls that goes by the name of Mario is next. Fire your ideas at me!

Hmmm........you could make him do his victory pose where he shows off his fire aura thing and then he does his Mario Finale.

^
That was my suggestion! :D

How bout you make him summon  fire flower  and become fire Mario then do the final smash

would also need special costumes and stuff, like what MDK did, and it's not worth it for just a FS imo

You can use Fire Mario as the FS "Eyes" of Mario anyway, I have him of that form and looks cool when he does his final smash...

Hmm.. Mario's seems like a rather tricky one to come up with the cinematic for. If you could somehow make get him to hit a ? block and grab a flower then use the attack, that would be amazing.

Also, this is a minor change to make his FS a little bit better, but could you have the enemies either slow-mo or stop in general while the fireball is coming at them? It's way too easy to dodge otherwise, lol.

Cascade Has A Good Point.

I would have to make the item box an article. Although I may be able to use a Fire Flower by having it spawn out of his hand... Maybe I can have the flower shoot the fireballs instead... lol

That's a good idea. And guys, remember that we just had trouble adding models with Sonic. It's probably not a good idea to suggest adding new models to the FS in here... not until someone who knows how to do it volunteers to help out.

Yeah, about that. you see, the reason it didn't show up, is because the graohic effect is wrong; it's 16, not 17 lol.
After that, I figured out the MDL0 is all screwed up. and I haven't had the time of day to fix it.

Lol. I guess it shouldn't take too long to get it right now...

Aww man these are beyond imaginable. Please can you do one for Wolf O'Donnell?

Leave that until he makes another poll. :P

why not using one how his win animation, at the end of the animation he gets Fire Flower Power up (the color on his cloths), he attacks with his fire attack and after the attack he gets the normal cloths

he needs to have all his models edited(like as SMBZ mario) to change texture
but a flash colour to be like as SMB3(for the nes) fire mario where mario is only orange is possible

Try this for Mario Have him do a back flip into his win animation where he spins his arm, while spinning his arm have fire engulf him with the fiery final smash eyes. Now before the actual attack make Mario do the animations for a Kamehameha and have a fire graphic charge (during the charge have him say "Oh Yeah*, (Camera zoom from back) then unleash his final smash and have the camera effects like your Samus final smash when she shoots her beam. (while have him say *HE-YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!)

:srs:  Are you sure? Because I'm fairly certain that Sonic already had 16 GFX before I added the 17th. If I called for an effect that didn't exist, the game would freeze (I know because I've tried it), and calling for effect 16 (10 in Hex) gives me a black-and-white runtrace... have you actually tried this out in Brawl?

Yup, I tried it, and the emerald showed up, but the materials were messed up. And I've called a graphic that doesn't exist, and simply nothing happened. A bone that doesn't exist is another story though.

So I have been working on things not related to Cinematic Final Smashes... Yes I have no progress on Mario yet... been working on a PSA of sorts. Not to mention that school is just around the corner. Going back on Tuesday. I just want to say that I recently got into adding External GFX... Although I'm not sure how to fix it with a model that does not have any textures...

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Added him to the waiting list... (finally a new character added...)

yeah, there it is.

@A Bloody Canadian- I assume you want it to follow sonic's hand. so I'm going try to get that to happen unless you want to animate it to follow whatever motion sonic is doing. (and no one tell me it's the "Anchored" parameter, because it does the same thing, checked or not.) Also, the other 6 emeralds are in the same MDL0, they're just scaled zero.

@Azure_Shadow
It is using graphic 16. oh, and by the looks of it, you did nothing wrong with the MDL0, because it crashed again even when I used the same model as super sonic's emeralds (So I have no clue how I got it to show up that one time) but after re-doing the EFLS editing, well, the result is in the picture above, so there could have been something with that, or maybe a combination.

ganondorf 1:09

lucario 1:46

falco 2:03 (when it ends)

donkey 9:50

fox shine dash combo

sonic's overdrive in final fantasy sonic x ep6

toon link 4:22 1:36 3:57

Ok this is really good, the most funniest part is what happened to Link when DK grabbed him. Hahaha that was funny.  :af:

:o

:O I love the ganon's final smash, where can i find that final smash?

it's fake, but it would be crazy epic

Hmm... Well, thanks for the info. Either I messed something up big-time, or it was one of those one-in-a-million freak glitches when it saved the EFLS file...
Thanks again.

Missed me? I finally got an idea for Mario's Cinematic... lol. I'm pretty sure some of you lost interest but to those of you still following, rejoice for I'm finally making progress! Since I'm back to school, it would take me longer to finish these...

K, he's done! I'll make the poll tomorrow cuz I'm going somewhere soon...

So here's my feedback in one word:

Dayum!

*cough*where is the poll*cough*

i subscribed to you bro

Ya know what, I will make that poll!

Excellent job on Mario. I am still following the thread with eager anticipation.

So Peach is next in the lineup... I'm pretty sure at least 2 people would very glad to see that... Will do Sonic afterwards, Calm Down Sonic fanboys... lol...

As always, Ideas are welcome.

im one of those people
i actually like her final smash
it kinda appears like a mvc type of special
and i like that

i dont really see peach having much potential...

 I AM PLEASED BY THESE RESULTS

and it can be more cinematic. at least if you were to make her do a taunt as you zoom in on her. the aerial one is fine. the ground one =3

unfortunetely i cannot download it =(

someone stole my 4gig sd card and i don't have any others. i know they are like 11 dollars. but still.

I could simply change the camera angles without the hassle of animating... The question would be how to go about doing it...

 Good news, i bought an 8 gig.

and it should like zoom in on her certain moves.

like when she does her ballerina kicks zoom in on the movement. and other things, and when she does her kiss zoom on in on. if you could slow down the animation via PSA that could work too. like pause at the kiss and make her say "peachy" then it ends =3

Yes, Peach! ;D
I love her Final Smash, and I'd love to see it finished.
@UltraXWing: Great ideas! If those could be implemented...  :happy:

 this is all possible in PSA. no animation is required

and no lipsyncing is necessary =3

I tried doing it with an 8 Gig last year, it didn't work... you're best with a 2-4 gig. 8 Gig is simply too much... and 2 Gig isn't enough for me cause I can't fit any more brstms in it... lol

I use an 8gb flash drive, and it works just as well as anything else I use.

I think the beginning animations could be more custom...Like from scratch custom.

gotta agree here, it looks cool to have taunts or win animations before the FS but having custom stuff would be even more epic

...And would also take longer. Animating has always been difficult for me, although with Tormod's advice it got considerably easier... anyway, most of them look fine without custom animations.

You're doing Peach's FS? isn't it already cinematic? I mean... It was made to be cinematic. It is yanno... just her... dancing with a fancy screen and a zoomed in camera.

that's what i meant when i said i didnt see a lot of potential in her...

totally agree. Peach don't even need one. :/

How do you port these Final Smashes over to non-vBrawl PSA's? They all use FitX.pac and FitXMotion.pac's instead of FitXFinal.pac's so it's impossible to have these without replacing whatever moveset you're using.

Sorry, but you'd have to do it manually...

Just to make something clear, it isn't an instead of situation, as the fit[Character]Final.pac is for final smash - locked graphics and articles. nothing more. he has no choice but to put it in the moveset file.

now, on another note, I found out why Sonic's emerald doesn't follow him, but I'm sure you've figured this stuff out already :)

No... why would anyone have figured it out already? I stopped working on it when you took over, and Canadian's been making Peach's FS...
So, what's the problem?

Did you guys stopt to think that Sonic's FS is already somewhat cinematic?

^ actually you could make a like better view of the final smash since sonic's is sometimes impossible to control, but I can't say it would be easy though even though it sounds pretty simple.

I'll most likely just change the beginning part of the Final Smash. Not sure about the end though...

amazing video share some more i love those fights

Damn sonic I mean like his final smash would be hard to make cinematic....

How to make Peach's Cinematic:

Fun with camera angles.

I know, I haven't been working on it... lol

Well, my current thought on it is that it is because it has been touched by brawlbox, since when sora was redone all through PSA, and I simply replaced the eff.pac with the very same one in the brawlbox edited moveset, the external GFX magically started following him correctly, so I assume that sonic will obey the same rules.

brawlbox does mess up some gfx as i've read so that could be possible

So I finally finished Peach. Download is up now.

Looks awesome, Thank you!

Peach is great my little sister would love this

 This actually looks legit. i like it alot. this makes it seem more cinematic and more elegant than just floating in the air.

thank you =3

^ Lol seriously?

 Seriously?

I don't understand what this that is supposed to mean.

He's referring to your last post.

Do one for super saiyan Mario with his fire tornado final smash

If that's a PSA, please read the 1st page...

Could you do a cinematic final smash for pokemon coming out the pokeball? Could you do one for these models; rayquaza, entei, jirachi, dialga, palkia, giratina, reshiram, zekrom, and kyurem,

You really don't read the OP, huh....?

And, the pokemon from the pokeball don't have a Final Smash  :>.>palm:....

unless u call their attack a final smash, even though it isnt one. . .

Tell me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we can modify Pokeballs and Stage Hazards... not yet at least...

i dont think we can not sure though

^anway that would be cool.

So I finally made some progress on Sonic's... although at this point, I think it's novelty has worn off... But to those of you still following, here's a little preview.

Wow this is pretty good. Are you gonna slow the animation down to give it a feel of a somewhat long absorbtion of the Chaos Emeralds?

Not slow, extend would be a more proper word.

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I need to ask, but what is the GFX id used for Sonic's External GFX cause I can't seem to find it...

Nice animation. I may have asked before. But will Olimar get a cinematic final smash as well?

I'll do it for all characters if I can...

Sonic is FINALLY DONE!!! WOOT! Poll is open!

Voted Bowser.

Voted Pokemon Trainer. :)

voted kirby because he is the best lol

I like how the only posts now are just who voted who... lol no...

Nope 10 people havent posted, just the half >_>

Btw, glad your back to Cinematic FS! :D

Voted Bowser

I know I'm late, but I'm sorta wishing that Ganon's cinematic FS had Beast Ganon charge straight into the camera, which would then move to the side just in time to avoid clipping and watch him run down his opponent.

That said, Sonic's cinematic FS is awesome.

My vote goes to Meta Knight.

"Behold! *throws cape* *slashes* FOOL! *performs the "Victory... is my destiny." pose* Know my power is without rival!" (The last line could possibly be done by pasting together his "Know my power!" line with his unused "Now, my power is without rival!" line, just start the "Know..." and then stop that phrase and start the one for "...my power is without rival!")

Problem, That unused quote you mentioned isn't even heard in the Sound Test despite it being in the ISO.

I think Bowser has a lot of votes because your Sonic transformation FS was so good-looking. Seriously, nice job.

If you do Bowser.  I think the camera should pan to a frog's eye view, then switch to above his head while spiraling into the air before panning back to the normal view.

EDIT: To expand on the previous idea:

It pans to a frog's eye view of Bowser as he laughs with his arms crossed. Then the transformation begins and it pulls away as he grows, before he finally appears as Giga Bowser and roars out before going back to the normal view.

The people have spoken, and Bowser will be next in the lineup. I must also apologize but my internet is really slow right now, and it will be like that for a few days... (I waited for about 30 Minutes just so I can edit the OP...) So I won't be able to read your ideas until this is over...

Hehehe... Funny thing about that. I discovered the line of coding for that line awhile back on accident, that Dark Samus PSA when used while fighting Meta Knight used that quote for one move... I looked in PSA, and found the value.

00000361 I used this in my Blood Red Slash Effects in the vault. As an alternate victory quote he can randomly say.

Great Job on Sonic, it looks amazing and definately gonna add it once i fix the freezing problem i'm having on him right now. :p lol.

Well that was shorter than expected... My internet is back at full speed... for now... I can read your ideas now. RAIN THEM ALL OVER ME!

*Points to his last post.*

Don't worry, I saw that... lol

Hope you like it.

Have you ever considered doing cinematic versions of hacked movesets?
EDIT: Please don't take this as a request... I'm just wondering.

Read the op. He said he would complete the original characters first. Then maybe, he would do some of the hacked characters.
Anyway, I just downloaded Sonic's Cinematic FS, great work!. I'll be waiting for the other ones!...

People still aren't reading the OP? I guess I better elaborate on that...

Oh, sorry. My bad.
I skimmed through it and must've missed that part.

For some odd reason, I want to record myself work on Bowser's Cinematic Final Smash... just to show you how easy it is to make one...

Ok lemme guess.....................Troll Face over Nintendog? xD

How is that related to the Cinematic Final Smashes?

I dunno.... :srs: Should of done it in PMs.... :>.>palm:

its a Cinematic trophy Assistant
indeed

@A Bloody Canadian: Well, go for it! I could use the tutorial. By the way, this thread sure went off-topic fast.

I could either record it and upload to youtube, or live stream it... though I haven't streamed for quite a while...

lookin forward to bowsers

What would Bowser's do? Similar to Mario's where the camera just rotates to face him, and then goes back to normal? Or could we get a full 360 rotation? Or like a close up to his face before and after the transformation? That's be cool actually, to zoom in on Bowser's face while is goes to ugly to badass and scary. :D

360 camera rotations don't work because most stages don't have a background behind the camera.

An almost-180 with the camera slowly zooming in the whole time, stopping with a close-up of his face from below as he transforms might look good, though.

I gave Ike a 360 Degree rotation anyway... lol...

Don't expect progress until next week... This weekend all of a sudden got busy...

Alternate version of Ike's FS and Link's FS with a black background (so you don't see anything but the attacker, the victim, and the attack's GFX) would be really cool, BTW.

About time! Expect some progress over the weekend. These last 2 weeks have been busy...

Rotating and paning seem to be the go to things... why not try something like this:

5 zoom cameras at different angles.

They would zoom in really close to different parts of his body as he went through the transformation until he went into the white light.

Then zoom out as he emerges into Giga Bowser.

Hey! Where's Luigi's Cinematic? Its not on the waiting list!

Nobody requested it. And as a response, I will add him.

So I'm making Bowser's Cinematic Final Smash, and I need to make an animation for him... but I need ideas o how to go with it...

I made a bunch of failed recordings trying to figure out what I was trying to do... lol

EDIT: NVM. I figured something out. Expect it out in the next few days.

wondering why I havent subscribed to this thread yet...

Lawl...

I'm encountering a problem right now. The FitKoopaMotion.pac  is not reading in game (Yeah, that's what the file is supposed to be named...) Any ideas on fixing the problem? If not, I'm gonna have to do the same thing I did for Samus' Cinematic Final Smash. Make no Animation Edits.

I was going to say "maybe the filezise is too much" but if that was the filesize, the game would crash hah.
Maybe you have to put the motion file in the koopa folder too (?)

Nope. I have the motion files in both Koopa and GKoopa folders. Nothing happens... It reads the FitKoopa.pac file just fine, but the FitKoopaMotion.pac file isn't...

Try putting the FitKoopa and FitGKoopa in a common3, 4, or 5 file, can't remember which.  Blaze over Bowser uses that method.

Edit: It uses the common4.pac file.

Do I really have to do that?! Really?! Oh well. Whatever works...

Yep... It's in a common4.pac... will have to take note of this during it's release...

Good news everyone!

I finally finished Bowser's Cinematic Final Smash!

I'm working on the Making of... video, and would you guys rather have it sped up? Or left the speed unchanged? I can't guarantee that you'll be able to see everything I'm doing if I sped it up, and only the 1st clip takes about 11 minutes. The rest I can say can range from 30 seconds - 5 Minutes, and there are a total of 24 clips in total.

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I'll leave the poll on till tomorrow morning.

As for those people curious...

The Making of Bowser's Cinematic Final Smash (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8ayOhctM8#)

This'll be on the OP as well.

SUDDEN DEATH TIME!!!

We have a Tie Breaker Poll!

I voted Kirby because he has a bad final smash, so an epic camera job would make it better

How would I do it though...

Have Kirby look as if he is hungry, then he looks like he has an idea, and does his FS

Have Kirby don the hat, look around first, then start the FS, like he does when using Cook in his own games. Then while "cooking" have the camera focus close up on Kirby stirring and seasoning the stuff. Then zoom out a little to present the stuff that comes out.

I need the motionfile for Snake to start making a sizemod for my future homuhomu import over snake~ (I will not use marioDK's method for 1 slot sizemod; btw homura is the black haired girl in my siggy) so thats why I voted for snake-sempai

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p01chjw1j1k4zuz/MGOVFIWZoN/fighter/snake (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p01chjw1j1k4zuz/MGOVFIWZoN/fighter/snake)

I was talking a bout a motionfile with the cinematic FS animation incluided

Do you actually intend to do something with it? I'm interested to know...

By 1 vote, the next one will be Kirby. Any ideas? Though I've already gotten a few.

I said it already, I am planning a sizemod.
woa, 1 vote made the difference...

snake

Another could be... Kirby Dance!

I would like to request one for Fox

Added.

Hyeas!

Is the moving camera part of the mod or w ere you just doing that in the videos?

I wouldn't be posting them here if it wasn't a mod.

True XD so the spinning camera comes with it?

Yes.

Could you re-upload Sonic's Final Smash? DL link seems to be broken :-\

I've noticed that the Download Links to most of my hacks have been broken... I'll update them now.

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Now since I posted here, I should say that no progress has been made, and I don't think I'll start until I finish that PSA Project I'm working on.

Thank you! And take as much time as you need to finish your PSA.

Oh Just to tell you your cinematic Sonic FS was like the best one ever!

I have a vision of what Kirby's Cinematic Final Smash will look like... I guess I won't mind making it now, but I feel like I should do a bit of Research...

If its not too much to ask for, could you make one for toonlink too?

I'll add him to the waiting list.

And with that, Kirby is DONE! Poll is up!

 :) Great job man! :) (hope it's toon link nexthope it's toon link nexthope it's toon link nexthope it's toon link next)

This one was rather quick... lol...

Poll will be open soon.

That Snake one was pretty nice, since you could actually see him get to the chopper.


...Also, at the end of the vid, I heard Snake say, "Nom! Nom! Tasty..." when he grabbed Sonic. So I replayed the video, thinking you were using Brawl Minus, and realized it was me voicing Snake out of habit. I play a lot of Brawl Minus...but I guess that's the perfect place to put all of your cinematic FSes.

I don't understand... lol...

Brawl Minus is a project that balances the game like Plus and bBrawl do, only instead of nerfing some characters and powering up others, it breaks every character so that they are all OP. There's also a lot of flair to their moves (Ganon's forward smash makes a huge explosion, for example), and sound effects are added to a bunch as well (Snake says "Nom!" during his pummel and "Tasty!" during his down-throw). It's a very aesthetic mod, which is why your cinematic Final Smashes would go well with it.

I knew everything that you said, that last part got me confused... lol...

Putting the Cinematic Final Smashes in Brawl Minus doesn't sound like a bad idea... lol...

I kinda also meant that last part as in, "Me playing so much Brawl Minus is why I constantly add voices during character's attacks when watching gameplay of Smash Bros."

Fun fact: When I was working for Nintendo, I would play Melee in the break room at every break at lunch, and every time I landed a Knee with Falcon, I would shout "YES!" because he does that in Minus. Shows how much impact that mod has had on me.


I am going to do that. Right now. Every one that you've done so far.

Tie Breaker guys!

*creates a new tie*
Whoops.
I suppose if it stays that way you could pull an SJS and go with whoever's losing the poll. But that would be tragic.

I just saw you Snake CFS & it looks cool!

Meta Knight seems to be getting a bunch of support, so I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

The camera and animations in Snake's FS seem rather stiff, especially when he's on the ladder. Kirby's is cool, though!

Coming from behind it's Luigi! I thought Meta Knight was going to win...

O.o didnt see that coming!

Because Luigi is awesome and always will be. XD

off topic
luigi's final smash reminds me of krillins solar flare

www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_BXkuh9JJg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_BXkuh9JJg#)

How is Luigi coming?

Nothing... yet...

What did you planned for him?
Because I though you could use his side taunt (I think it's the one when he makes multiple poses in a few seconds)
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Just an off-topic
The Best Of Nappa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qslAuezumIA#t=409s)

6:48 to 7:02

I have nothing really planned... I could do the same thing that I did for Peach, but I want ideas for this...

The only idea I could give you is to make Luigi doing this before the FS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DEroW5mRH5g#t=88s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DEroW5mRH5g#t=88s)

1:28 to 1:30 (without the success SFX, of course)

You could've just said Up Taunt... lol...

I forgot what taunt it was :srs:

just going to request a P:M cinematic final smash for lucario when you have the time. if you don't have time, then maybe you could tell me how to edit the files to only have the final smash changed. :3
you can take your time, though.

How do people still miss this?

hye ken u meak a shadow one?

jk. i cant wait untill these are all done, then i can have one for every character.

Though I'm currently blank on ideas for Luigi right now...

ok, so, i have an idea. he does the taunt where he goes into different poses (down taunt i think) and has different camera views. then the last one he holds it and the camera zooms in, then he does the down-b spin animation, and goes into teh final smash.

Just do fancy camera angles as he dances, like with Peach's.

I'll do that... but not now cause I'm busy with other things...

Doesn't he already have a fancy camera angle when he dances? (Doesn't play with final smashes) Luigi's is kinda already cinematic IMO... kinda a bad one to make a cine-FS for.

He just got a little zoom, then it comes back to normal camera...

For Luigi's Final Smash:
can u remove dat annoying tune that pops out when he does his FS?
Also can u edit the animations so that he does this just before the freeze effect:


thank you and luv u(no homo)

I don't think I can remove that tune... nor do I intend to...

that tune is the most epic thing they ever added to brawl!!!

will you be doing these for existing PSAs like cloud or zero?

You should really consider looking before posting...

We just went over this...

that wasn't a request though, it was a question calm the heck down >_>

IWCR version: He'll consider doing other PSAs AFTER he's finished with the regular Brawl characters.
IWCR = Idiot Who Can't Read

wow uve got 14 characters left to do
i wish i could help but
1.  dont know [censored] about Psaing
2. ive got other projects
someone should give u a hand though

More than 14 Characters. Some Characters have not been requested yet. Therefore, not in the waiting list.

Luigi is DONE, and will be submitted as soon as I can get Youtube to upload the video. Poll will be Open as well!

fudge
missed the stream
dbz abridged: God dammit Nappa (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pg0QyfUYZU#)

Finally got that video up and running! That took too long...

Download is in the Vault as well.

lmaodatass

Game, Set, Match...

Meta Knight wins half the votes! I don't see too much potential with this one, so ideas are appreciated.

Have him say something cool (probably just his normal FS quote) when the attack starts, along with a close-up of his face because EVERY finishing move needs a portrait shot. Then, as he throws his cape, place the camera so that he appears to drape his cape over the camera as the lights go out. Then, move the camera to look up at the target from a low side view as Meta Knight performs the upward slash. And of course we need another gratuitous portrait shot, so end with him doing a different pose and using one of his taunts/victory quotes, possibly with the camera angled upward to watch his target get Star KO'd in the distance. Depending on how voice SFX work (essentially, assuming it's possible to start a voice clip partway through), maybe you could combine parts of his lines to have him say something new? I believe earlier I suggested "Know my power is without rival." using "Know my power!" and "Now, my power is without rival." If it can be done, I'd suggest that as his "FS end" quote, and then use only "Behold!" for his "FS start" quote.

I figured you'd say something about draping the cape over the camera, as it was one of the 1st things that came to my mind. But now, we can expand on such ideas!

Your idea is da best ;D
Just, instead of saying this, he would say "victory, is my destiny.", and after the attack, he dissapear like his victory taunt with the camera angle and the star KO'd and he reappears...

Do Captain Falcon please!

Isn't it cinematic already?

good point. only thing I can think of is after the FS the camera goes in and he does a taunt or what ever and says "hhhhhyeeessszzz"

No.


Yes.


Maybe...

I think C.F should get a new version of it with camera edits and that ends in a firey uppercut attack.

Why are we discussing Captain Falcon? Meta Knight should be the center of attention!

Because there's already a HUGE paragraph of what Meta Knight could do that would be really cool, written by me and agreed upon by DarkFire, which you never fully responded to. Apparently you TL;DR'd and just skimmed through it or something, based on your response.

Speaking of Falcon, however, the only thing his FS is missing is a gratuitous portrait shot. So maybe have the camera zoom in on his face through the [censored]pit glass as he starts down the track?

Don't worry, I read the entire post. I approve of the cape over the camera part, but I think it's best to leave the startup as is. And for sure, no Star KO Camera. May add a bit extra to the end though.

Now that I think about it, I have an idea for the ending. He'd go into a pose similar to that of the end of how Marth does his Dash Attack. Now because of this, Meta Knight would move slightly forward, but I know for a fact that CFSs tend to desync anyway.

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After working on it for a while, I'm having Camera related problems... No matter what I do, it does not go back to normal camera...

I should say this right now...

I think I've confirmed that Meta Knight hates Cinematic Final Smashes. I wanna move this thread along, so why don't I have another poll up and running? I'll get back to Meta Knight if there's a breakthough.

People still care for this? Interesting... I dunno if anybody else has tried this...

I've been looking at the thread for a while now, and every time I took a look at it, Pokemon Trainer seems to have the most Votes. So we'll go with that.

Now I have to figure out how their Final Smash Works...

All 3 models are summoned and launch their own GFX.

Like, how do their events work? Would I have to alter all 3 of the Pokemon? Most likely I would assume...

all of there gfx and stuff is is the Fitpokemontrainer.pac. its in artical 1 i think but the animation for them going to the final smash is in there own motion but the animation they do during the final smash is in the pokemontrainers motion.

Still doesn't tell me how their Events work. Oh well, I'll find out eventually.

Say that I wanted to put these Final Smashes over PSAs, say as an example to preserve balancing tweaks from other mods.

How exactly would I go about doing so?

If it's not too hardcoded, then copy the contents of the FS of the FitCFSCharacter.pac of your choice (maybe the hardcoding too, though...), paste it in the PSA you want it to go, and also, copy the animations, since they almost all received some tweaks...

Oh geez. I don't check here often anymore due to lack of motivation... lol.

None of the CFSs are HardCoded. You should be able to copy and paste it's contents just fine. Don't forget to export and replace the Animations too for they have been altered as well.