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I thought I'll update my OP.

Completed PSA's


Riku

(http://i.imgur.com/0MTcj.png)

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Dual-Wield Roxas

(http://i.imgur.com/8I5Xv.png)

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Lightning

(http://i.imgur.com/MKWbG.png)

Ichigo Kurosaki

(http://i.imgur.com/tj19Kaj.png)

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Aqua

(http://i.imgur.com/fOeST0J.png)

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Ventus

(http://i.imgur.com/poLBqDD.png)

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Terra

(http://i.imgur.com/nzXatDK.png)

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Vanitas

(http://i.imgur.com/oOhNJZg.png)

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Sasuke Uchiha

(http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii638/jrush64/SasukeUchiha1_zpsa1d6ac0e.png) (http://s1263.photobucket.com/user/jrush64/media/SasukeUchiha1_zpsa1d6ac0e.png.html)


Naruto Uzumaki

(http://i.imgur.com/w0TWL5e.png)



Yuri Lowell 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/y7s10Ka.png)

Flynn Schifo 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/AolTJz1.png)


Squall Leonhart 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/QAWVEYx.png)

Tidus 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/gEn2VLy.png)

Zidane 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/GG7SDka.png)

Zack Fair 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/jCNM4Sv.png)

Sephiroth 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/85PWLvk.png)

Xemnas 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/qACCeL9.png)


Dante 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/GJhkJYk.png)

Nero 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/GnkZqur.png)

Vergil 100%

(http://i.imgur.com/PXXBqjL.png)

The wait animation looks nice and accurate. Great job and keep it up ;D

Nice work on the animations an I can get to a computer on Monday so I'll test if you need anyone

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Post Merge: August 25, 2012, 05:18:08 PM

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Nice work on the animations an I can get to a computer on Monday so I'll test if you need anyone

I'll test... A Riku PSA :)
Do you want feedback for everything, or just bug-testing?

I'll Volunteer. I Hope That You'll Be One Of My Testers When My PSA Arrives.

ill beta test if thats ok, plus Ill provide a vid if needed.

Alright cool, Thanks. I'll try and get it to you guys by this evening hopefully with a moveset written down. I just need to fix a couple of animation glitches.

@Ikuto Kurosaki, a video would be nice.

Hey Guys so here is a preview of his Air Final Smash.

Riku Final Smash Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DQ-atBvidE#ws)

This is his Air combo from KH2. When I finished animating this, I decided that it was too flash for just a SpecialAirS so I decided to make it his Air final Smash. I haven't finished adding special effects to it though.

So what do you think?

I plan to release Riku by tomorrow as pretty much everything is completed except for graphics, sfx and also to animate a dash attack for him as I still haven't done that yet.

Wow, that looks pretty good. But I think, in is Wait animation, he is raising his Keyblade a bit too high.

i was just saying to my friend the other day. "Wish Riku had his own moveset. Tired of useing this Cloud one." I am very excited for this.

Sorry I can't test till tomorrow because I can't get to a computer now

@neox that's cool. I'll probably send you another file tonight. A better and almost final version. @chaosknight, I think he holds it that high in DDD, In KH2 he holds it a bit lower.

I'll check it out again though.

I can test it. I will play the hell outa it.  :af2:

Alright dude I'll send you a file in a couple of hours. I'm animating a SpecialLw now.

Been, busy with life and got ur pm. Just send me the ver thats ready to be recorded.

Someone should make do a Vanitas model just to have an alt costume for the Riku psa instead of just recolors.

If you look in the vault there is one already.

Yeah, but that model was rigged to Marth's bones.

yes i can reply (but only on a wii)
any ways about the riku psa i only played in training so far and riku seems pretty fun to use and palys nicely,though my 3 compliants so far are the back air, it is the same a forward and it can ruind a good combo sometimes and down air i think that is something that fit in the forward air much better that the forward air. lastly the could have had the same animations as .fade's cloud psa other than that the psa was pretty good for a first try

@neox thanks for the feedback. I plan to release him in the next couple of hours after the video.

I've changed everything that you, Uchihasasuke and metatrongrhm said I should change including a handful of new animations.

I'm just doing final testing on my Wii before I make a video. Ikuto is also making a video too.

Actually it is a psa for Ike. He probably just converted Ike over Mario for the video. Pretty sure I have seen a download for Ike over Mario. But ya, point being is it is over Ike.

Well yes it's for Ike, but it's rigged over Marth. If it is rigged over Ike, then you would see Ike's bandana bones in BB

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Post Merge: September 05, 2012, 07:55:49 PM

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Since I have Cloud over Ike, Ima try out Riku as soon as I find a.  .rel I want him over Ice Climbers also.   ._.

I used the Tsuna Hitman one.

I figured. I'm gonna try him out tomorrow.

And I shall wait for a Vanitas model over Ike......   :>.>:

Uhh... Not really a moveset problem, but in the downloaded file, when you extract it, there are 2 versions of the moveset within different folders.

Moveset Stuff:
Dash Attack - Doesnt hit opponents on the ground(when they're lying)
Neutral B - The damage to the enemy seems a little bugged? When fully charged, it does 8% to the enemy, and 10% to you, yet when you charge it less(and it doesnt hurt you), it seems to do anything under ~15% damage to the enemy
Down Air - I think it'd be cool if you extended this move so that he stays in that position until you either hit the ground, or use a different move

Other than that, this seems well done, except for a few odd looking animations(and I dont really like the Down-Special move, but that may just be me)

When I extract I only see the moveset and the motion file.

Oh wait... I've realised why it extracts odd for me(I still had your beta in the folder I extracted to), Sorry :)

And I've given feedback above(idk if you wanted it... It's there anyway)

great overall. noticed a glitch when i tried to fire the B to fast. caused alot of lag and the shot stayed and never vanished. happened on sora's awakening over skyworld.

Whoa.... Those animations are boss...

*Sends PM*

@metatrongrhm, UchihaSasuke; I'll fix the problems in the next version. Right now I'm tired of Riku. Thanks for the help and feedback.

@Kagemaru, Thanks. I'd love to help with Sora.

If the GFX never vanished it may not have been checked to end when the animation ended.

As for the gfx causing lag... I've never known why exactly that happens... Its also why I tend to use primarily melee type fighters... they don't shoot off GFX that'll lag the game xD

And sweet... He's almost finished, but I've come to find that I have to re-do the whole PSA from scratch and I could use some ideas on a change for his Side smashes.


My one suggestion I saw from Riku though was that you should lower the length of the Sword glow to match Rikku's Sword.


Also... on the note of KH, with there being a Sora and Riku psa, anyone who knows how to make Machinimas wanna help me with a KH themed Brawl machinima? There is even a Kairi and Micky model in the Vault lol, plenty of  Orginization XIII members to 'raise from the dead' , a Roxas model (I use the one over Pit for Dual Keyblades)

I'll look into the sword glow thing too.

I'm almost done with a dual-wield Roxas PSA but It's over Marth though. I never really used the one over Pit. I'm checking out your Sora now. I'll have some animations for you tomorrow.

I'd like to see what you have for Roxas. DW Roxas/Sora was also on my to-do list but I'm interested in seeing what you come up with.

Is anyone else having this issue ?
It hangs on me after I choose any stage, only when I
leave the FitIkeMotionEtc in his folder.

This ^ ;D i like riku ;D just need to fix sword glow.

You need Ike.pac and IkeMotionEtc. together is like if you want kid buu animations on Lucario you need to do PSA work of itll have problems. ;D

Can't wait for DW Roxas :) I've been waiting for years now! ^^
Yeah a preview would be awesome! :J

Can't wait for DW Roxas.

Cool

I'll post the preview of Roxas soon as I can. But I need to work more on him and add some more animations.

Also thanks alot to everyone who's downloaded him and thinks it's good.

@Kagemaru, you were right. I didn't terminate the graphics so maybe that's why that happened. I'll be releasing a new one on Sunday with an improved Wait stance from (KH2), Improved hitboxes and all problems.

What exactly is the problem with the sword glow?

Its too long. The glow exceeds the length of the keyblade.

I was messing with Sora's sword glow not too long ago... I think in psa it actually says length. I don't have it up ATM to verify though. But if you can't figure it out look at my sora, their keyblades are about the same length, you could figure it out by comparing.

I see it now. I didn't really know what the glow meant but I'll definitely fix it now. Thanks.

Edit: I also think I've fixed the graphic error now. I've set it to terminate with animation. So please let me know if you encounter the error again.

On Sunday I'll update with new animations for the wait1,3 and some other moves that I'm not too proud off.Also the sword glow issue.

Thanks.

Yeah, it froze on my when I tryed playing him.VS.Yoda, over Rayquaza's Embedded Tower.
Mine worked over different stages though.

What issue is that. I don't understand. He's never frozen on me.

How do I go about putting him over the ice climbers?? becuz I really want to use this character but I also want my ike to stay the same

http://www.box.com/s/cd16c48863b33adf1464 (http://www.box.com/s/cd16c48863b33adf1464)

Download that. Then copy the codes into your wii and change the FitIke's in FitPopo's.
e.g.

FitIke.pac > FitPopo.pac

Thanks dude for bring on brawl the mightest Riku, when you'll fix the sword's light lenght will be even more good. And god, that Dark Aura is boss.
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I did have both the FitIke and the Motion pacs in his folder though, it freezes on any stage I select if I pick him.

EDIT : I see you uploaded a new version today, going to test it out and see if it still freezes for me
EDIT : Nope, still freezes for me when the Motion file is in there

@Disc Murderer the problem must be at your end. Let me try and help. Is this your first time using hacks? Do you know how to set it up.

Oh yes, I know how, way before my DVD drive died on me I had my entire roster hacked.
If it works for you guys it probably is a problem on my end.

How I tried to install this hack :
Download the hack, and copy the files to Ike's folder.
It works without the motion file but the model does not change
without it. I've also tried renaming FitIke to FitIke00

Do you have the model? If not you need to download the Riku model from here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?z9pkbbrphp0uiv6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?z9pkbbrphp0uiv6)

Then rename it to FitIke00 if it isn't already named.

Thanks, I'll give that a shot and report back

EDIT : Well, how about that, it worked ! Thanks for your help
Loving this PSA

No problem. Hope you enjoy it.

Can't wait for those previews bro.
Oh yeah, can you tell us Roxas' moveset/animations? If not, I understand.

@jordanice. It's no problem.

For the moveset just watch this 2 videos and you'll have an idea.

]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckULfN3DkWU[url]

 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckULfN3DkWU[url)Kingdom Hearts II Roxas vs Axel (with the cutscenes) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq2SAt-nAuo#)[/url]

I'm incorporating everything you see there including a few custom moves. He's gonna be fast and be able to do serious combos.

Nice. I want those serious Combos. ^.^

Also, will he have different taunts and entrances? because i have some ideas if u don't mind.
Entrance:
Idea1: Come's in through a corridor of darkness just like ganondorf.
Idea2: Falls Upside down, turns, and lands on the ground bent down and gets up. (entrance of kh2 and kh3d)

Taunts:
idk lol I'll come up with something....:p maybe pulls spins his keyblades or pulls out seasalt icecream or something?

He'll have a custom entrance like in KH2. You just gave me that idea. For custom taunts I need ideas as I have none for now.

I still need to work more on his animations so I can't show off anything yet. And I'm going to be pretty busy with RL stuvs for the next 2 days.

I might have a slight preview by Sunday evening with Roxas and Squall as I'm also working on him too.

Thank you very much!! :) ima try it out now and let you know how it turned out.

Sounds good. :J
I'll think of some ideas, and if you ever need a tester, you know who to ask. ;)

What do you think about making the moves at 0:40 (the spinning keyblades one)
Kingdom Hearts - Secret Ending (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf-UVwiog70#noexternalembed)
as a taunt? Do you think it's possible? It would be quite nice in my opinion.

I think I'll add that as a taunt or something. thanks.

Anyone who has suggestions for Roxas should post and lemme know.

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days Dual Wield Roxas Hooded game play and his limit combo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Z0OZoDIe4#)
at 0:02 maybe where he does that flexing/shaking thing. It's kind of like one captain falcon's taunt.
or u can use this as a reference for another taunt idk.

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days: Duel Wield Roxas Victory Pose [Edited Version] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlulEYjBvs4#ws)
here's another. you can use it either for a victory pose or for a taunt...or both. I like this one a lot.

I actually used the second video as a down special for him. But he spins the keyblade first.

I see the second one as a victory pose, oh yeah.
In the first video there are some nice attack for him I think, it can give some inspiration.
That game was good because it let you use characters as DWRoxas, the whole organization, Riku... Even Goofy or Donald were funny to play with XD /endot

EDIT: Yes, that would be a nice attack too. DW Roxas is so a cool character :af:

lol yes i agree all the way. DW Roxas is my favorite character of all time of any video game series. Also, jrush64, is his combo move the one shown in the first video? I absolutely love that combo as it's soooo spammy lol xD
Also, at 0:21 of the first video, the one where he throws both of his keyblades, that is MY FAVORITE move for DW Roxas! I hope that' his N Arial? And the victory does make an excellent vB. Good choice. But are u also going to make it into his victory? it still matches.

I haven't put that in yet. I havent used any video from that game for Roxas yet but I'lll start soon. I've put everything from kh2 and Final mix 2 though.

Oh I see. Will you be using that as the arial though?

I already have an aerial special but I might add that. His specials are like a continuous combo like Marth's.

I might ground that move and use it as a side special

I dont mean to bug you much but your Riku is the best!!.. Ok so I put in the codes in the CM exported to gct. , then I switched over the FitIke.pac to the FitPopo.pac then I put the sd card back in the wii launched it then I would select ice climbers (its cool no freezing there) then i select a stage and it freezes on me... what am I doing wrong??

Also am I suppose to copy and paste all those FitPopo.pac I downloaded from the link in the popo folder ?? If so I did and still no luck

make sure to put the .rel in the module folder. :)

Thanks. If you want him over Ike, just copy the contents of the folder to your ike folder in your SD card. If you want him over Ice Climbers you have to hav a .rel file and input the codes.

If you redownload it, I included kingskull's model and it should be ready to play. All you need to do is copy the contents to ike folder.

Who do you want it over. Ike or Ice Climbers?

Ice Climbers

Do you have the .rel file in the modules folder.

jordanice42 here are a few screenshots of Roxas.


@heartlessnobody if you're still having problems pm me.

@Kagemaru, Yeah. I noticed it after animating the move. I'll fix it before I start PSA'ing him. I'm working on Sora now.

That last one is a bit wonky but very nice.

You're gonna work on Squall too?

Thats cool.

Squall Leonhart nice. ;D

Yeah. I started working on Squall 2 days ago and I've finished animating him. I animated Blasting Zone, Rough Divide, Magical Flurry, Revolver Drive, Thunder Barret, Blizzard Barret and pretty much almost all attacks from Dissidia.

I'm just not sure where to put most of them though.

Hmmm...I have some suggestions on where to put some attacks.

Up-B: Rough Divide

Side-B: Revolver Drive

Neutral-B: Fated/Aerial Circle (if you made animations for that)

Down-B: Blasting Zone

I wanted to animate Fated Circle but I have no idea where I'll get the graphics for that from. But your arrangement was pretty much spot on with mine. For Rough Divide I want you to be able to direct it to whichever direction you want.

Thanks

Woah. Looks awesome! :)
Now i need someone who is willing to add the oathkeeper keyblade onto my new final mix roxas :p

Look at Eternal Yoshi's Sora PSA. The down tilt attack uses a fire graphic for Fire spell.

Alright cool Thanks.

@jordanice, I just animated most of the moves from the 358 video you posted.

is the sword glow fixed?

Nice, i can't wait for the PSA. :)
is the AAA the combo in my first video? Oh and the arial in the video is his arial or his side special?

I'm releasing V1.2 tomorrow with everything fixed including new animations for some attacks, wait animations, jump and new Dark Firaga texture. The sword glow will be fixed.

@jordanice, Both his aerial and side special.

Nice. how about the AAA combo?

It's actually only AA for now, it hits like 7 times. It's from his fight with Axel. But I'm going to change it now though.

I read the previous page and you're making a Sora PSA? Over who?

I'm not making a Sora PSA, I'm just helping out.

Hey I just noticed, on ur PSA, Riku's meteor special animation looks just like the beginning of Roxas' magic hour (final smash/limit break)
I also found this gif, might be helpful since it has frames: (http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m00thfuzmG1r5t496.gif)

@jordanice, I've already animated that. But thanks.

Oh no problem.
btw did you already plan out the specials? cuz I may be able to help.
I was thinking that the down special would be better as the side special and the side special would be better for the down special, but if you already started the PSA it's fine.

R u a male or female im just curious :s

I'm a dude....

didnt mean to be off topic i just noticed that your profile was rihanna so i wasn't sure (hope you dont take that the wrong way

Nah man it's cool.

riku's pretty good, but i think a couple things should be tweaked....
besides the sword glow thats already been mentioned, it might be good to have that up smash looked at, or even changed altogethe. his forward smash is amazing, but maybe he should have invincible frames during the jump until he turns around and slices, so it'll work as an awesome parry attack..

Dude I got the Riku working with my own gct. file Finally!!! Riku is beast by the way I just have a problem with the down A sweep attack it kinda like slides/pulls me backwards everytime I do it, but other than that he's still a beast.

Hey guys, so the new version is released. I've fixed the graphic glitch with Dark Firaga. The Changes are;

Attack11,12,13,14 - All new animations
Attackdash - New animation
AttackAirB - New animation
Wait1 & 2 - New Animations
Sword glow has been fixed hopefully
Dark Firaga - New Texture
Attackdash hits when opponent is on the floor

2 New Wait animations from Kingdom Hearts 2 and Kingdom Hearts DDD.

Please let me know what you think. Especially about the sword glow.

I'm done with Riku for now; I'm tired of him. I want to work on Squall and Roxas. Except there's any serious glitch, I won't be updating him till both of them are done.

Version 2.0 will be the final one and will include alot of new animations including the flow attacks from DDD.

So enjoy I guess.

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Post Merge: September 09, 2012, 02:38:02 PM

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@heartlessnobody; that's the way the move is. He shoots out a slash at you.

Nice job! :)
Also, any news on Roxas and Squall?

I'm still animating both. I'm not too happy with what I've done so far.

not happy with whom? Both of them?

When animating his arm movement they sometimes stretch weirdly along with his elbows.

At that point you may want to pay close attention to the key frames. Make sure they aren't jumping to crazy high numbers

Wait are you talking about Roxas or Squall?

Roxas

oh. :(
I wish i could help somehow. :/

I've just realised...
That the 'glow' of the sword...
Spells 'LOL'(upside down)...
You can see it better when he jumps...

(http://i.imgur.com/Mcqae.jpg)

Did you intend this JRush?

Lol. No i did not intend that.

But the new version doesn't have the sword glow problem anymore.

I see a Roxas psa hack soon?

ill test the riku psa today because i could not get to a computer on weekends oh and any future psa just tell me on my thread and email me the files same goes for any future psa and ill give feedback more often.

@neox, that alright.

@Tomoki, Yeah a dual-wield Roxas PSA. I'm almost done animating finally.

You remind me of me afew months back. Really fast at animating lol.

awesome. :)
have u come up with his taunts and victory poses?

Not yet. I'm doing those ones after I've finished PSA'ing.

Oh i see. I'll continue thinking about the taunts.

A preview of Roxas maybe? Just one attack?

the victory pose 1 could be when Roxas rotate both keyblades and kinda what pit taught 1 is

Aight I'll post a short vid.

Yes! Cant wait to watch it :D

Dual-Wield Roxas


So here is a video showing some stuff I did a couple of weeks ago when I was still getting the hang of animating. I'm going to likely redo most of them as I'm not that pleased with some of them.

If you look closely you'll see the elbow joints strech a little bit weird but that's cause of the rig. But I'll be able to work with it though.

Looks pretty good so far. And yeah, some animations do look off, but most of them are really good! I also like the idle animation A LOT! Nice job! :)

There is a lesson I'd like to teach you. Send me that model and one of the attack animations. If you're interested in what I want to show you that is.

@kagemaru, I've sent it.

@jordanice, The animations at the beginning where done weeks ago when I jsut started animating. The ones at the end where done more recently from that video you posted.

I'm redoing all the beginning animations to include Attack13,14 just like in KH2.

I also liked the last animation a lot!

may I suggest a final smash? If you can do the final smash like the move Boss Roxas does he goes up to the sky and summoned light ball and attacks all the enemy's it does 10% of damage

That already is his final smash. Its called magic hour.

alright ^_^"

Lol sorry for sounding kinda rude :D

nah bro is ok beside I was waiting for a Roxas psa in a while this will finally complete my kh roster

I'm going to stop working on Roxas for a bit cus I have to rig the model again. The elbow and hand stretches are really bothering me.

on what character your doing the psa?

Did you rig the model originally? I didn't know that you had done that. When I did the animation I showed you, I worked around it... but I can see how it would be annoying after a while. You may want to 'Not' make the model move when you move that random bone between the RArmJ and the RHandN cause... its useless pretty much. The one on the left side could be the wristband he is wearing.

Just a thought.

Oh, and I hope my tips were helpful.

@Kagemaru, I didn't rig the model but I'm learning how to work around it. Check out the final 2 animations I'm sending you. It only seems to bother me when the move has both his arms coming together like the first attack.

It get's very annoying as you said. The elbow bones need to be shifter to up the elbow bones to the elbow instead of where it is now.

@Tomoki, It's over Marth.

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Post Merge: September 13, 2012, 09:24:33 AM

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i need some help with Roxas. Basically I have zero ideas on what his Forward and Up smash should be. I've used up every single move in the videos as Specials and he has alot.

His side special has like 3 different ending hits, his up special animated, Neutral special he throws the Keyblade at you.

But I have nothing to use for his side Smashes. Can anyone help?

I'll make something this weekend for you.

@Kagemaru, Thanks. Looking forward to it.

You can use some of the movesets from this video
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days - Dual Wielding Roxas vs Anti Riku (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1lhtOk8gEU#)

Dude thanks but I've animated everything in that video for his specials. I've finally gotten an up and side smash. Only down smash remaining now.

I didn't know Roxas was a boss in re:coded.

and in kingdom heart 2 final mix I'm going to send a vid
Kingdom Hearts 2: Final Mix - Roxas Battle | Critical Mode (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckULfN3DkWU#)

Sounds like you don't need me anymore xD

Kagemaru, I do need your help for just a down smash.

Righty-o

Look forward to that within the hour.

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Post Merge: September 14, 2012, 01:26:35 PM

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Is there a planned release date for your Roxas PSA?

@Kagemaru, thanks. I had actually done a move like that for his forward smash. But thankfully I got a down smash from a Tales game.

So now I'm animating his air attacks and boy does he have alot. Air attackN1,2,3,4, Ait attackF1,2,3.

I don' t know if there will be enough subactions.

@jordanice, no there's not a release that as I'm taking my time with it. I'm basing the final smash of the 3ds version and I'm going to need to make new gfx for it.

I've tried a Team Battle with your Riku and the actual Sora vs Ansem SoD (Texture on Ganon, that actually work pretty well moveset wise, since Ganon style is Dark-centered, also the Dark Grab is the same of the Ansem's Heartless) and Xemnas (an old psa other Marth, really not bad even if it has no custom FS and some of the attacks are weird for him), and damn... That was a cool battle, and it will be even more awesome when the updated Sora will be ready! As for Riku, it works fluid in battle and easy to use, and I found nice that you can chain most of his attacks, like in DDD where you can use a command in the middle of the normal combo to create something new and powerful.

Don't worry, I have also an inTopic question... It is normal that the Dark Firaga of Riku hits far from where the gfx stop going? Something like:

(Riku)-----O     X

O: Dark Firaga graphic distance limit
X: Where it still hits

3ds version? :0 i dont remember Roxas using any fighting moves in dream drop distance. Or Are you talking about 358/2 days?

I tried using the Riku PSA with Brawl+, I think the Animation engine code effects it, he is all jumpy and sometimes he will T-Stance, but if you disable the code it works fine.

@jordanice, I meant the DS game.

@discmurderer, I have no idea what the animation engine code is.

@lucifergale, the dark firaga isn't normal. I forgot to fix it.

Oh ok cool. Its called magic hour just to let u know. Pretty similar to lucas' final smash.

I know it's called Magic hour, but thanks.

I've finally finished animating Roxas and have started PSA'ing him.

Sweet! Im looking forward to this PSA. i dont think ive ever been this hyped for a mod lol, i also have a question, does he have any projectile moves?

May I see the animations?

@jordanice, yeah he has a projectile. He throws his keyblade at you as his neutral special. I'm trying to make him throw both at you but I'm trying to find out how to hide the keyblade on his other arm as it doesn't seem to leave the hand as the keyblade.

I have 9 subactions for his side special, 3 of those 9 subactions are his end combos. I've animated them in such a way they lead into each other so I'm trying to program them in a way that all 6 subactions are random till they reach the last 3 subactions.

@Kagemaru, sure. I'll send them to you.

Can u actually post a preview of the fixed animations? If not, its totally cool.

This to has got my interest Roxas is to dang awesome

I just tested my Sora vs you Riku. It was amazing.

Only real issue with Riku is that his recovery is [censored] and some of his attacks don't make much sense. I'll go more into detail later. But Sora vs Riku is a great fight.

@Kagemaru, Can't wait to try out your Sora. I honestly have no problems with his recovery but you can also use the Side Special air, as a recovery too.

But i'll change it since lots of people have problems with it in V2. All the moves I got are from DDD. Riku doesn't have as many moves as Sora so I just had to work with what I had.

@jordanice, I honestly would prefer to show everything only when I'm done animating. I've finished PSA'ing all his moves and have them working in game but I have to reanimate some moves again.

Its not a very good alternative recovery... His horizontal recovery capabilities are mad  crap yo. Don't be afraid to make up something... I had top with Sora a few times lol.

I already have a move from DDD, I think it's called Flowmotion or something. I'm going to give him for another recovery.

It was meant to be like Ike's recovery...

Any idea when you'll release Sora.

Soon actually. Got the glide from kjp so really soon.

Oh ok, thats cool. Anyways, if you need a tester for anything, anything at all, you know im here for u bro.

so i finally came back from a emergency irl

but about riku i played him alot and he seems pretty fun to play but my main problem is the attacks that spin the animations seem to fast and it looks like riku is just randomly moving maybe looking .fades cloud psa to get a better animations other than that its great to play

Flowmotion in DDD it's really good, let you move everywhere nicely and in an elegant and fluid style. Having something like that on brawl would be actually cool but hard I think, at least if thought at a wall/enemy/everything-jump manner.

^This

Lucifer_Gale: Fight his Riku with my Sora.

Its crazy fun for some reason... seriously...

Jrush: You gonna let me see dem animations? :af: And Animaine called you my protege lol, I don't mind giving you some tips if you don't, since you seem to have a natural affinity for animating anyway. :D

Also, same complaint about some of Riku's spin attacks. I don't know what they are based off of but they do seem to be a bit wild and random and slightly too fast. But its still good. GameandWatch is permanently Riku now for me anyway xD

That fight was really fun indeed, you were right :happy:

Wish I could use Sora right now. I guess the spin animations do move way too fast, I'll slow them down for next release.

The spin attacks for Riku are all in DDD. I saw a command exhibition in youtube for Riku and I used everything I found there.

@Lucifer_gale, It will definitely be hard but I'll try and get close.

I spent half of the day trying to rig a hooded Roxas and hood-off Roxas but I got no luck with the robes. I'm not good at Rigging at all. Wish someone would help.

I could try helping (not sure how much time I really have though). who's it supposed to be over?
oh, and does it need to be the hi-poly model? because that makes it more difficult to make facial expressions, but I also need practice on modelling expressions anyway.

It's supposed to be over Marth. Well it would be nice if it were a high poly model, facial expressions don't matter to me much. The one with the hood up doesn't need facial expressions anyway.

I just want Roxas to have multiple costumes and seeing as his moveset is a combination both Roxas and hooded Roxas, having the hooded one would be awesome.

I can send you the files if you're interested.

You should also use the final mix model, the model and textures r much better. I'll try to get someone to add the other keyblade onto bleachmagic and my final mix roxas.

If there's no skeleton changes, then that won't be necessary. I should be able to do it this weekend, but no guarantees.

You guys should exchange emails just in case the Vault(Forums too) are down.

And soon J, soon you and everyone else will be able to enjoy Sora. :af:

My E-Mail contains my real name, so I can't.
Do you have a youtube or devientart? For both of those, mine would be ShadowTheChinchilla

ShadoKage would be my deviant art. AriesShado is my Youtube name.

Has KJP sent you Sora yet? (feel free to pm a response if you want)

J, I'm going to take a  look at what you sent me now and get back to you in a bit.

@Anonymous, I'll send you a message on youtube. Mine is jamesrush64.

@Kagemaru, no problem.

i'm getting better at rigging a model so this is something I've been working on:

Roxas:

Misc Animations: You should finish those. They are a pain in the ass to do but getting them out of the way first helps keep you interested in the project.

Dash: These are basically jumps... Like... "Go! Oh wait... nvm, I don't wanna actually run anywhere" The animation itself should be more like a full stride or a standing/running long jump in which they land and decide to stand up instead of keep running.

Use Frame 20-28 to make that happen, then use 8-10 frames to go back to the wait1 frame. See how that looks.

Run: 12 frames is not enough frames yo... have you tested that out in-game? That has to be crazy fast...

Attack11: Between frame 10 and 12, that attack has crap range. I suggest extending the keyblade towards the opponent (frame 11) and not having it point towards the ground.

Attack12: Its alright. It still bothers me that I have to view these animations at 20 fps to see them correctly. You shouldn't be trying to make it so that you need Frame Speed mods to make an animation go right.

Attack13: Frame14 to 15 there needs to be a frame inbetween those two... because you have the wind up for the attack. Then you have the cool down of the attack. The actual attack frame is not there... the attack would be when the keyblades are in front of Roxas before he crosses his arms with the key blades on either side of him... I'll actually provide images for this though:


Between the first and second image there needs to be a frame that has the keyblades going from the previous frame to the next frame...

The next three images, the second image would be the attack that would connect, where as the third and fifth image would be the wind up and end, the fourth image doesn't seem like much of an attack frame.

A key thing to remember when animating is that you have to envision the full range of motion. I have a scale I like to use you don't have to but it helps me. Its just a generalization of whats fast or slow and some tips I made for myself:


Back to the review:

AttackHi3 is the up tilt, and AttackLw3 is the down tilt, you currently have them both the same as the AttackS3S May wanna fix that lol.

You also need a frame between frame9 and frame10 because frame9 has the keyblade behind his arm, and frame10 is the key blade to his side like he'd already attacked. You need that in-between frame to show the attack. Same with frame13 and frame 14. you need a frame in between them to have it be in the middle cause where it ends.

See what I mean? This is an example where I'd use probably 4-6 frames. The first of those 4 would be the first image, and the second image would be the 4th or 5th frame. The frame in between those two images would be the part of the attack that can connect to an opponent.

Same issue with the Side Smash (AttackS4S) frame13 to frame 14 there is no attack. You didn't put it in there. He spins and then he stops. Its like at frame13 Roxas puts the keyblade up like he's gonna attack, Then in frame 14 its like he attacked but because there is no frame 13.5 you don't see it.

Your up smash isn't much of an up smash. If he's gonna jump, its ok to make him go a bit higher if you want. That would be a nice Second Side smash though.

Your Down Smash has some clipping in it. Meaning that the keyblades are actually going through Roxas' legs... You have to be careful of that. What separates a good animator and a bad animator is attention to detail. Aside from that, its a decent down smash.


And I have no idea what you're doing with your SideSpecial attacks, BUT you should remember that the end of the animations need to end with the wait1 or the fall frame if they are in the air.

I can see you put a lot of work into it, but you still have a ways to go. One other tip that I learned a long time ago, I draw, pretty well actually. I'm go to the Art Institute for it... a long time ago, I studied anatomy and how the human body moves so that I can better draw and illustrate bodies. How their range of motion work and everything. I also studied the scientific basics of fighting so I could better illustrate a punch.

I tell you that because the lesson I learned is that when it gets hard to envision what a realistic body would do when trying to animate it gets hard, try and pose yourself or get someone to pose for you. I noticed that your Hold animations were a bit 'meh' Specifically the SideSmashStart and Hold... thats not a position someone realistically could hold for long.

Hopefully this helps... Thats all I got for now.

Actually, looking at DDD, there is something that would give Riku some good orizontal recovery. You could make his SideAir-B the basic dash, and adding that if you press B again you can make a second Dash in the same diretion, since Riku can actually do two of them in the game (both of them should be shorts, so they would not be overpowered); but if you press A instead he will do the Sliding Crescent Ability that he has as an attack after a Dash (The beginning of this video Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance, Riku Gameplay and Minnie Cutscene (HD 720p) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz2Eaq2Zkqc#ws)). On ground would stay still Limit Storm, but it would be cool if it works like it does in the game, that is making more damage when the user have low HP (in brawl case if Riku's damage go over a tot). Or making him using Sacrifice when he has low damage (and get damage from that as in the game) and after he reaches a decided limit he start to use instead Limit Storm, and since he can use it only with tot damage that would be a little more powerful than the normal version (or make its power grow as it does the damage of Riku).
... I have so many ideas, and no capacity. I'm sorry I can only do suggest with no solid affort to the project :c

You still working on Squall?

Yeah I'm still working on Squall but I haven't touched him in a while. I'd rather finish Roxas first.

That spinning move Riku was doing was that not Kick Drive?  whatever it was that would be a perfect SideB for Riku.

I can probably animate kick drive for v2. Thanks.

Yeah, Kick Dive should work too as a Side-B. V2 is gonna be really nice to see :D

Yeah, I'm going to redo lots of animations and add some new effects. Plus I'll have Kingdom Hearts DDD by then so it'll help.

I want to make either a Chris or Leon PSA. I've started work on Chris and already have a moveset for him. But Leon I don't have anything yet.

What do you think?


The only problem with Chris is the gun is on the other hand.

Having the game will surely help to have a better look at the moves and making some inspiration :)

That model is quite good, for the gun there is no way to mirror it, like someone has done with Link and his sword? Or even in Sephiroth psa there are two file for choose the main hand, so I think that there is a way to do what you want.

I'd go with Chris personally... he's a big dude... and since he's in MvC3 you could use some of those moves he has if you couldn't think of your own. Leon... I know he's fancy with a knife and all but he doesn't seem like the type that'd be good in Brawl to me. Perhaps a Leon alt outfit for the Chris psa though. They both could rock the same moveset imo.

There is. First you set the scale on the TransN, XRot, YRot, or a size mod bone to -1 on the X axis, then you change all the materials to CullOutside or CullNone

@Anonymous, you friggin rule. It worked like a charm.

Chris all day everyday  ;D i love his explosives,flamethrower,and the ice missle thing

Is Roxas still going to be complete before Chris or Leon?

@suna, Roxas will be complete before everyone else. I just don't feel like working on him right now.

As much as I feel that Leon is not getting the love I think he should be getting, I have to go with Chris on this one.  This is because Chris has some good sfx clips and everything he needs to be in Brawl while Leon has far less to work with.

I've already started on Chris anyway and he's going well. I think Leon can use his moveset but I'll just give him a different attack 1,2,3 and maybe a new final smash.

Now I need to start looking for where I can find the stun rod model and maybe a couple of his weapons. Thanks guys.

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These are some animations I did for Chris last night. Attack11,12,13 and S3S.


As you can see I already have guns for him to use. But for the stun rod, I'm thinking I'll just use a modified light saber.

What do you think?

I'm making the last attack S3s so that if you're holding the side tilt, it knocks the opponent up and you can jump into a combo just like in MVC3. I'm going to try and add a little jump to AttackS3S2.

Not bad.

Also, adding a jump isn't needed in animation as there is a code in PSA that will make you jump. The Jump will actually cancel the animation out (duh because they are jumping)

Thats how the Zero PSA does its up Smash I believe.

sorry jrush i still havent gotten the chance to check the animation. i will soon though

@Kagemaru, yeah I've checked it out. So I have an update on Roxas & Squall.

I was able to rig a sweet new Roxas model. I've fixed the elbows the hands and pretty much everything else  that was wrong. I have to reanimate some stuff though but the moves would look waaaay better now and I'm really happy. He will also be able to throw both keyblades at you now.

Roxas will be released with 5 models, Original Roxas, Hooded Roxas, Organization XIII Roxas, Shadow Roxas and Pajama Roxas. I don't know what to use as the last model though. Maybe I'll rig Ven with 2 keyblades or something.


These are the models. They are working in game but I probable have to try and get the robes to move perfectly but they move pretty great right now. I'll redo some textures and make them better but that's not until I'm done PSA'ing.

I'm going to start reanimating some of the moves that need to be reanimated.

Riku V2 will have all new moves and will include his KH1 model, young Riku in Organizaiont XIII Robes and also the one with the band over his head. I'd love to put his DDD model in there but I have no Idea where to get it from.

As for Squall, I've started work on him again and I'm about to finish he's animations. I'm going to rig every single costume he has in Dissidia including the Final Fantasy VIII model just for fun.

I'm doing a Ventus over Ness PSA with Link's bones. I have the model working in game but his arms look kind of long because of Link's shield but I'll fix that. Ven would have his glider which will be used in his entry. His final smash would be wingblades. I'm also going to do an Aqua over Peach and Terra over Ike PSA.

I'm almost done with Chris animations. I'm going to give him his Resident Evil 6 attire. He will have a Piers Nivens skin and maybe a Jake Mueller Skin too.

I'm rigging Lightning over ZSS both costumes and will do a PSA of her. I'm not sure whether it would be possible to rig Odin as maybe a ground smash then Army of One as an Air final smash. But she will have those blades she uses when she does her limit in Dissidia though. Also will include a Serah skin.

I have quite alot of stuff but right now I'm focusing on finishing Roxas and Squall.

DemonBoy is making a custom model of DDD Riku along with his Tron Legacy outfit. You should really check his thread. :)

And what Lightning model are you rigging? Mariokart64n already did an import of her Dissidia model over ZSS and I import her original Blazefire Saber over her gun. And how are you gonna do a PSA if ZSS's file size is very small?

Anyways, I really look forward to everything since I'm a big KH-fan and a somewhat FF-fan since Dissidia was the first real FF game I played then got into I, V, and Type-0. ;)

I might have to move her if I can't do it over ZSS. I didn't know about that.

Awesome job. However, I noticed that the first Roxas model isn't from Final Mix, that's from Kingdom Hearts 2 high poly and the cloaked one is low poly. But hey,  great job :)
Can't wait dude. Also, make sure you send over the animations lol

Nice job. You've got a leg up on me cause I can't rig models. Nicely done.

I look forward to your Roxas PSA.

As for Riku, I feel that he could be better so I hope you do well in that. And his headband over the eyes outfit is my favorite one.

Squal is also gonna be pretty fun to play with and as for Lightning over ZSS, you may have some issues with that considering ZSS's terribad filesize.

So many awesome characters, you are my hero =D
For Aqua... It's not better to put her on Zelda, since there is already a good model on her (the one in the kh package, not the one on Zelda without images)? Also that could work for some magic womby thingy style I think.

@Lucifer_Gale, I'll check it out. She could go over Zelda if there already is a model. Lightning definiely can't go over ZSS. I don't want to put her over Marth though.

Check this out.


Pretty much almost done with his model. Was pretty easy to rig this.

Aren't you concern with filesize and lag? O.o

So, I can cross roxas off of my to do list then?

Can't wait till you release this hack :D

@chaos_knight, I don't know much about file size. Is there anywhere I can read up on it. I didn't know these files had limits. I got Aqua working over Zelda so that's awesome. Lightning obviously can't go over ZSS so I'm just thinking Marth. I might have to nix the idea of Odin though.

It's her FF13 model not dissidia model.

@Anonymous, Yeah you can. Thanks for offering to help.

I've started working on Roxas again and I've started his final smash. I got this working in game right now.

(http://i.imgur.com/73GUPl.png)

I also got DDD so I've seen the flowmotion moves and I definielty see potential for Riku.

Her XIII model would go over ZSS's and Marth's filesize. You have to wait for a thing called the Tristripper to come. It's supposed to reduce the filesize by 300%.

Btw, Pervy is doing her XIII model too.

You have me impressed. How can you get so much done so quickly?
Love the Riku PSA, and I'm sure I will want Roxas' when it's done. And thank you for the codes to put him over the Ice Climbers a few pages back.

@chaosknight, what exactly is Tristripper? That would help immensley. But the funny thing is I got her silver armor working in game but not her normal costume.

(http://i.imgur.com/Wm6KB.png)

I just releasd my first texture hack. It works in my game and there doesn't seem to be any problem. But please let me know if there are any problems.

I just told you what a Tristripper is. :srs: But you might wanna ask BlackJax96 about it since he is the creator of BrawlBox. You find his thread here: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=17547.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=17547.0)

Anyways, I'm surprised you got him in Brawl since he's from a PS3/360 game. But judging by the pic, you might wanna fix that transparency issue (see through) on the hair because I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to look like that. :srs:

Looks so awesome dude. :srs:

Cool stuff jrush I like the ideas and details your giving the characters too good job!!....
 nd I'm glad to hear you're working on Squall again becuz that is who the Vault really needs.

Alright so I thought I'll post an update on everything.

- Roxas is 80% complete. He's been like that for the past 2 weeks. I'm just working on his final smash now. But the thing is I'm not too happy with some of his moves. Like his down-special and his up-smash.

For the first version, he won't have any throws, just a knock back attack like a smash.

- Squall, I'm redoing the animations and also rigging all the other models for him. Squall is like 60%

I've started on Aqua and Ventus but I haven't made much progress. I'll just say like 20% completed.

Because of Resident Evil, I'm been on some kind of Resident Evil high and I've been working on Chris and Leon non stop for the past few days. Chris is 60% done and will have custom throws while Leon is 20% done. Leon will have the same specials as Chris but different normal attacks and final smash.

I just wanted to say great work. I love the characters your choosing to make PSAs for.

Why not make Roxas and Ventus the same person? Wouldn't it be a lot of work to differentiate them?

umm roxas and ventus have completely different fighting style. Roxas can have the same moves as sora or he can be dual wield. Ventus on the other hand, has a completely different moveset.

Don't they both use two key blades? Aren't they the same person? Or clones? I'm not too knowledgeable on the kingdom hearts plot. It lost me after 2

@Kagemaru, I am also confused about Kingdom Hearts. I just know that Ven is connected to them in some way. But they have totally different fighting styles. I kind of like the way Ven fights.

Also Ven wield his keyblade backhanded, and with only one hand; also he's more quick and rapid but less powerful. So... Yeah, Ven is quite different from Roxas or Sora. I like how he fight too, and he has one of the most coolest style of the game, WingBlade c: (The other one is Aqua's Ghost Drive, it's awesome how she dodge and attack while teleporting and leaving behind after-images of her.)

Isn't Roxas sora's nobody?

Yes. And he also Ventus at the same time. He just completely forgot his past and memories, which is why Roxas looks like Ven.   Well that's my theory. I haven't played DDD yet.

Kingdom Hearts story has just gotten way to confusing.

@Lucifergale, I'm thinking of how I'm going to put ghost drive. It's definitely cool the way she leaves after-images of herself.

Good news on Squall. I've been working all day, and I'm definitely 100% done with his attack animations. So I'm about to start psa'ing. But I'm out tonight so I'll start tomorrow.

I wanted to announce another project.

(http://i.imgur.com/keiw3.png)

He's going to be over Lucas, but with Marth's bones and some of his animations. I'll appreciate it if anyone can help me with a moveset because I don't have anything yet though.

Neku! Yes! :happy: Although, I think the model should use Pit's bones because Neku and Pit seem to have a similiar body build...and because of those arms on him right now. O.o

sora stabbed his heart in kh1 and vens hearts went into roxas thats why they look alike. The director of the series stated this.

Neku!!!

It isn't really my model and I don't want to tamper with it. But it better than the chibi one though. I have a sprite sheet for neku which will just make things sooo much easier.

True....and the model is getting a revamp anyway.

That's great news on Squall..but who is he going over ?

..dont know if you already stated this.

You're getting more and more awesome my friend. And if you have the game itself I could probably help you, since it's a lot easier to mention the pin and watch it in action than describe the attack. On youtube there aren't so many videos about the pins unfortunately :/

I'll help.  I loved that game. sprite sheets are my best friend too.

We can collab on him and Dante if you want.

i actually like roxas' fighting style better because he's fast and spammy lol. plus he uses one combo after the next repeatedly.

I finally got Roxas magic hour graphics so that's good and I'm 70% done with animatiosn for Nekup, he's pretty easy to animate. The main issue's will be his graphic effects because he's going to have alot.

Squall is going over Ike, because the model i'm using is over Ike. But he can work over any port.

I don't know who I wasn't these characters over... (porting) cause I had pretty much my whole roster planned out... I suppose Diddy Kong could be used since I don't have any plans for that skit at the moment.

Good to know thanks

I've finished PSA'ing Squall's Normal attacks and starting on the B attacks. The only thing delaying Roxas is the gfx for magic hour. For some reason whenever I put it in the game, the texture isn't transparent. Even though it's transparent in BB.

Anyway, I've also started on Leon and Nero. Both are still waaaay in early stages but Leon will be probably be released alongside Chris. While Nero will take some time.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/27zclj4.png)

(http://i50.tinypic.com/2ighsft.png)

dat pinky :srs:

Yeah... that pinky...  :srs: Will probably fix that when I add a gun to the rig.

Dat Nero.... :srs: Everytime I see it I just get more hyped for a new Dante PSA.

Once we get the model the way we want, we can start on animations and PSA

Lemme guess. Custom bone edits which means using the MvC3 model is a no go?

*still wants to keep Dr.'s sexy Dante CSPs*

Actually no... The bones are fine IMO

Just need to add a bunch of little trinkets to Dante to make him... well... Dante.

The MvC3 model didn't come with Agni/Rudra, Beowulf, etc... so we need that (which I'm about to ask Demonboy if he could send me) at which point they just need to be added to the model and will utilize model changers to be used.

Well we'll use that. But we need weapons like Agni and Rudra, Cerberus, Ifrit and all that. I'm going to rig his DMC4 and DMC3 models also. But nothing can start till we get those weapons.

Just like Kagemaru said.

How's the Psa going?

If I had to hazard a guess... I'd say he's been busy.

Since we're collabing on Dante (and maybe some other things) we'd be communicating more if things were happening... which we haven't been. (I've been busy too)

He COULD be working on his other projects though... but I think he's just been busy with stuff.

Like Kagemaru said, I have been really busy mostly with school. It just started but there' so much frigging work to do. Anyway but in the time that I had to spare I was able to do some stuff, so here are the updates.

Roxas is 89% It's just the final smash remaining but I need to give him some more moves. I haven't really worked on anyone else apart from Squall within the past few weeks.

Squall is closer to completion than anyone else to be honest. Ive reanimated almost all his moves and given him a few more. This is part of his moveset.

Neutral Sp : Fire Barret, Blizzard Barret, Thunder Barret (Use Taunts to change to whichever)
Neutral Sp Chaged: Magical Flurry

Side Sp: Revolver Drive (Same as up - Side Special)

Down Special: Blasting Zone (Chargeable for more damage. i.e. Hold down the special button for longer effect)

Up Special: Rough Divide (Not much to say about this except it will work like Fox Up Special)

I Already have all moves programmed in Brawl and there working fine.  :D

I spent half the day animating this move, Shotgun Barret (His Side-Smash Charged)


The way this move would work is if you keep tapping the A button, the move will continue or if you release it you can side step out of the move. And I'm trying to program the move is such a way that if you have high the damage, it will do more damage but will not be able to knock you out. I'm still working out the kinks. It was pretty difficult to animate though. I still have to do some more work on it.  I was contemplating whether to make it one long move.

These are some of the costumes he will have, all rigged by me. These are all Brawlbox pics.

(http://i.imgur.com/66WWS.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dHPMh.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/DOEke.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/NtWk0.png)

He'll also have a Final Fantasy VIII battlestance as I'll include his 2 costumes from FF8 also.


He will also have Lionhart which he will switch to when he's about to do Renzokuken. I'll try and add a little graphic that will say "Lionhart Equipped"

He'll also have damage faces, blinking, anger and all that if I can get it working right.

That's all I have to show for now though. I can't promise when he'll be ready but I really want to do a good job on him.

@Kagemaru, I'll start rigging Dante with all his weapons by tomorrow.

I'll probably have to see it in-game cause the second from last animation doesn't seem like much of an attack...


You also wanna be careful about those feet... make sure you keep them from going inside the ground.

But all in all, those are good. Personally I like the sleevless outfit best. 

And as far as Dante goes, thats great. I need something to take my mind off Zoroark for a while cause truth be told animating him is a pain in the ass...

Squall. Dante. You have no idea how hyped I am. :D

I'm hoping to meet someone who will collab with me on a Machinima...

these hacks are needed :srs:

@I'll fix the footwork when Im finalizing everything. That move was really difficult to animate because of all his twists and turns.

(http://i.imgur.com/7mMLq.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2Tm9H.png)

As you can see I'm having problem with the weapons texture. I'm hoping someone can help me fix it though.

Squall looks killer Can't wait

I think I know someone who will be able to help with that... maybe. You know I don't know jack [censored] about modeling stuff xD but hopefully I can find someone willing to help.

If you want, I'll let you include my recolors along with this new Dante PSA.

Man you are doin it again making me hyped  if you need a tester  I am here

@The recolors will be great but I'm adding his DMC1 costume, DMC3 costume, DMC4 costume and shirtless DMC3 costume.

@Kagemaru, any help will be great man. I just can't seem to fix the texture issues.

@Neox, When he's ready you can test him. No problem.

Sweet I can also test Dante as well forgot to mention that

and if you need a second tester, im your guy xD

Okay guys, so this is my last update for the next couple of days.

I found some very good videos for Roxas so I'm going back to revamp some moves I wasnt happy with. I  just need to add a few more moves and he'll be done no problem.

Squall, I need to finish some animations again and he'll be almost done. It will just be gfx remaining for the both of them.

This is Roxas up-special.


I found very good Lightning models so I'm going to be working on her again. Check these models out.


I wasn't able to put Odin in but I'm still working on a moveset though.

For Riku's revamp, I'm adding 4 new costumes, including this one.
(http://i.imgur.com/3KxBQ.png)

I'll update before Friday with more stuff.

Dat Riku :srs:

Dat Up-B :af:

Those Lightnings :af2: But XIII-2 Lightning doesn't look right....... :srs:

Dat Riku :happy:

wait a sec, i thought i was your tester for Roxas?

I never said you weren't.

@chaos_knight, it's just the textures used. I'll look for better textures.

I wanted to use this for maybe an entry or something.

(http://i.imgur.com/yNxHk.png)

Lol, he gets off the train and into a fight. xD

lol and happy 2000th post. ;D

Wouldn't using the Corridor of Darkness be better as an entry?

The corridor of darkness will be a great entry also but I can't find anything remotely close to it anywhere. But it was just a suggestion really. Seemed like a cool idea.

Anyway I've animated more moves for him now and I'm feeling a lot better about Roxas now. He's more like I imagined now.

Riku has 600 downloads so that great. Thanx to everyone who downloaded him. Even though I'm not happy with how he plays anymore as there's waaaay more I could have done with him.

Why not use Ganondorf's entry? That's the closets you can get.

I tried using Ganon's entry for Riku but I cant find it. Is it an article or what? I copied his whole entry for Riku's but it didn't show up.

Yeah i was thinking about Ganon's entry for Roxas too, or you can use Pit's ray of light and make him falling head first then turning and landing on his feet, like from the opening of Kingdom Hearts II.

Or you could just keep Marth's entry since it fits him already.

meh, kinda suits roxas, except for the symbol under him.

You can texture it. I say Nobody symbol?

Yep that's what i was thinking

I like the train idea lol gets off ready to kick butt nice....

Don't mine me asking but do any of you guys have a shirtless dissidia tidus that I can have ?

Yeah I got shirtless Tidus.

(http://i.imgur.com/BhH9g.png)

Also I like all the ideas for entries, so I'll make multiple entries for him and you guys can pick whoever you want. a

I'm also going to port him over someone else other than Marth so we can have a Sora vs Roxas fight when Kagemaru's Sora is released.

Cool is he in .obj format ? I wanna rigg him up and pose him up with xnalara

Can I Test Aqua If You Ready With Her ?

I'll test Dante for you once he's done if you want. :D but gonna try him over Olimar

@heartlessnobody, i can get him in obj format or .smd which looks better.

@Aelia, I haven't worked on Aqua in a while as I'm busy with other stuff. But you can keep animating her and I'll have time by the weekend to help you with a couple of moves.

@chaosknight, sure I have no problem with that. But I'll talk with Kagemaru about beta testers.

Ok kool .smd would be better just pm the link when it's ready bro thanks!

Biggest Roxas fan (me) here to test Roxas whenever you need testing lol :D
so just notify me when it's ready! :)

May I playtest to whatever is going to be released first as well please?

I only need like 3 beta testers really.

Animating Roxas is such a major pain. The hooded version has so many fast attacks that it's difficult to get right because there's no clear video.

And I think the motion file is too large because he has waaay to many moves. AttackS4S1,2,3; AttackHi4-1,2; AttackAirN1,2,3,4; AttackAirLw1,2; AttackAirHi1,2. I need to trim some moves out but I can't think of anything to remove so far.

In fact I even have some attacks that I don't know where to put them.

dang hope everything works out.
plus dibs on being one of the beta testers.

You should probably trim it down to be more along the normal lines of a character...

Also, if you have a move thats not assigned to an attack or something already, you should probably nix it...

I just can't wait for the Roxas PsA ( even if I have to wait in January)

(http://i.imgur.com/5pDkM.png)

Sea Salt Ice Cream!! I figured he could eat some as a victory pose.  ;D

Anyway Roxas is going pretty great. I'm happy with everything Ive done so far and he's nearing completion. I've PSa'd all his moves as they weren't difficult to do.

All that's left to do is to finalize animations, add hitboxes and the the final smash.

Roxas is going to get a new rig with 10 movable fingers and a better high quality model. I'll post that tomorrow. 

I'm also going to try and rig the organization cloaks for movement. Pretty sweet huh?

He's going to have, Roxas, Pajama Roxas, Shadow Roxas, Hooded and cloaked Roxas, then I found a Namine model in Organization cloak and I was thinking of adding that as his last costume. She's a nobody like him after all.

I also found the skateboard so maybe that could also be an entry. I'lll make like 3 different entries though so you can pick whichever you want.

I remember Eternal Yoshi having his Sora PSA with Sea-Salt Ice Cream. But no it's not in the current version, it's just not released. :P

So skateboard and train are entries, but what's the 3rd one?

I hope you release squall b4 I head to campus. I really can't wait to see how kool you made him.

JRush does good work. *sage nod*

He'll go far here... especially because he can animate, model rip, rig, and psa...

Yeah, dude is like the complete package. xD

*needs to level up his skills*

He's in my "Favorite Newbies" list. :af:

Awesome! Since u said u were going to update his model, can you use the final mix High pol model please? Its the most hd model of roxas out there. Heres the link to the model:
http://www.models-resource.com/psx_ps2/KH2FM/sheet/1610 (http://www.models-resource.com/psx_ps2/KH2FM/sheet/1610)

The left is the final mix model (hd), the right is original (Notice the hair and jacket detail as well as the faces)
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2019/roxasclothes.jpg)

@chaosknight and Kagemaru thanx.

I think he'll only have the skateboard and the Kingdom Hearts 2 intro entrance as it looks pretty great.

@jordanice, it's the KH2 final mix model with some smoothing.

nice :D
Is it the high poly model?

I looked back at Squall and I realized.....

you forgot the manikin version of him. :srs:

@chaoskinght, I've got his textures somewhere, so I'll probably add it.

This is the new model.

(http://i.imgur.com/FQ2JY.png)

Rigged Fingers.... Should make keyblade twirling more realistic.  ;D

Also, dual-wield Roxas uses Oathkeeper and Oblivion. But If anyone wants any other keyblades on him just let me know and I'll add it separately and send it to you.

Roxas needs to smile so he's going to have damage faces and such.

May you add the Two became one?

Dangit thats the low poly model. Oh well better than nothing.

I just found the high poly model which means I'm going to have to rig it again. Oh well only took me like 2 hours anyway.

@Tomoki, sure. If i find it. I'll add it for you. ;D

lol cool! use the one i provided in the link provided just in case :p
and r u only doing fm2 highpoly for twilight town roxas or also cloaked? i dont rly care, as long as twilight town roxas is high poly.
And oathkeeper and oblivion are my favorite set, so imma just stick to that.

can you add the kingdom key and the
kingdom key D (mickey keyblade) please

so watcha up to right now?

Well I've rigged the High quality modem from final mix 2 and its working.

I've spent the past 2 days fixing animations because his hands and feet were too long because of Marths physique so I had to reduce it to Roxas' normal size then I had to fix the animations as his feet were off the floor.

Then after that, I had to reanimate some moves that didn't look good including the wait and run stance. But now, the problem is after this particular combo he spins around in place after the move when going back to the return stance. It;s bugging me.

Animating this guy is really annoying, he's too slippery.

But apart from that, he's getting closer to a video preview though which is good. I haven't even added hitboxes yet but that'll be easy so i'm not worried.

Sounds good! Hope that problem gets fixed soon :)
good luck! and if u can, can u pm a picture preview of the model?

:( i  lost all of my aqua files  because my computer crashed. (sending this via my 3ds) have you have working on aqua ?

Does anyone know Marth's motion file size limit? Because I' m sure I just reached it. And I haven't even animated the final smash yet....

Here you can look. ;D
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5876.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=5876.0)

Thanks. I've definitely passed it  Roxas motion file 4.8mb.  :(

Try making a clean (not the one in BB button)
In your motion file, delete all the bones arent needed, even if you press the clean button doesnt make the whole clean :P you need to do it manually, if everything work fine at least youll delete  100- 400 kb of trash bones ;D

Thanks again. I got it down to 4.4mb and it's finally working in game.

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This is his battlestance. I still have to fix the keyblade twirling though.

(http://i.imgur.com/WFEBg.gif)

The good news is that I really have completed all his animations and i'm about to start playtesting him. He is getting closer to completion and that's good.

thats awesome :)
nice job! pm me if u want me to test it ;)

Lets go for a double release. I'll release Sora when you release Roxas.

Marvelous  ;D

Lol that sounds awesome. Sora and his nobody releasing the same day.

I'm going to post his down special today as he's ready for gameplay now. I think you guys might like it.  ;D

We will like it :3

So this is his Down-Special. It's a custom counter that I made. It isn't programmed like Marth's counter. This one has a hitbox that must connect before it goes to the next subaction.

If his health is above %150, the hitbox gets smaller but if it connects it can kill you.

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8928/rxsd.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/rxsd.gif/)

I'm stll trying to work out the gfx as I need the sign to glow. But you can see what I'm trying to go for.

This is the animation for the counter.

(http://i.imgur.com/H7f6K.gif) (http://imgur.com/H7f6K)

The SpecialLwAir the animation is totally different and if he is hit, he spins around creating a tornado  ;D

@chaosknight, glad you like it.

Want.... O.O

My thoughts exactly

To awesome can not wait for this!

:/

You're gonna make me re-think the attacks I have for Sora.

@kagemaru lol

@jrush nice to see he's in testing mode my lil bro is gonna love him. I'm stil waiting to see wht you got next for Squall so keep up the good work.

Man they both look so awesome.Now I just have to find a yoshi rel and I can have sora,roxas,and goku.

Hey guys I'm glad you like it. This is his Up-B, the ground one.

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8540/rxsd12.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/19/rxsd12.gif/)

Of course you shouldn't let this hit you as it just keeps going. It can't knock you out though except you're at the end of the stage like you see or except you have high damage.

I'm making a custom sword flare for Roxas' keyblades and I'll use it for this move. You should recognize this move from Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix hooded Roxas fight.

I also redid the animation from the one I posted earlier.

There's an extension to this move in which he just flies up and slashes at you when he's on the ground. You can use it to knock people out from the sky.

20 damage... seems like a lot. Maybe not, but meh... its still good.

You have my up-to-date Sora stuff... any ideas on new/better moves? I'm srs getting a bit jealous at the badassery of Roxas.

20 damage does seem a lot.....but it's probably the animation that makes it look overpowered.

That up b looks sick

Want this psa so dang bad it looks awesome thus far!

So I'm waiting for a friend to help me with Magic Hour graphics so Roxas is on hold till that is complete. But while I'm waiting, I've started work on these 3 guys from BBS.

(http://i.imgur.com/dTAV3.png)(http://i.imgur.com/rLMVJ.png)(http://i.imgur.com/UE7ny.png)


Ven goes over Ness with Link's Bones. He'll have armored, helmetless armor and frozen.
Aqua goes over Zelda with Marth Bones. Helmetless and armored.
Terra goes over Ganondorf with Ike's bones. Armored, helmetless and Terra-Xehanort.

Terra and Aqua will share some moves as they'll have command styles. That'll be their down B. Ven's will be different as Link is kind of different from Marth and Ike.

Their gliders will be their entry of course and victory too. If you can think of other uses, let me know.  ;D


I'm done with Ven's A attacks though so he's making progress. Aqua I'm doing her A-attacks but I haven't started Terra yet. I'll update as things go as usual.

On a side note, I'm rigging these 2 guys for model imports.

If you're talking about Boygos's Mickey, it's over Mario.

And actually, I did request Joke to do KH2 Mickey over Mario...but he said he didn't feel like doing it and the model I provided him was messed up he said. So is that outfit you might do?

Yeah the organization cloak one.

Not that one. I mean this one

(http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/590573-mickey_2_super.jpg)

I also have that one, I can do that too.

Please do. I want to make a Mickey psa...

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I was on my phone earlier, so I didn't put in everything I wanted to say:

I want those characters... though I probably wont use them permanently. I intend on having Chun-Li over Zelda and I actually wanna make a machinima that will probably involve Sora in some way and I don't know enough about those other guys to put them in it... (My fanship with KH was kinda halted at KH2 and 365 1/2 days)

but Mickey I can most definitely work with and I actually wanted him for a while now. I had always wanted to make a Mickey vs Yoda match with custom moves but the Yoda model is... not so great... And the current PSA is basically a re-hash of Meta-Knight...

In any event, I know you're gonna work on what you wanna work on, but how goes Dante?

Then I'll rig the mickey. That one will be easier to do that the Organization one.

We have the file patch codes so we can always switch folders which will make it easier really. I got birth by sleep cus i found it cheap and I still haven't completed it yet. So I'm with you on that, KH2 was definitely the last KH game I completed.

But the 3 guys are really fun to play with so that's why I want to make a moveset for them.

I was free today so I rigged Nero, Vergil, Aqua, Ichigo and about to finish Nero. The Terra on the vault is a HQ one so I'll use that for the PSA.

As for Dante, I really dont think we can do transformations because of file size. I'm still trying though.

We talked about it.

For everyone else... Trust that we will have high quality work :D

Terra over Ganon would be fine, Ven over Ness would be fine.. but is there any way you could put Aqua over Peach..? Noting that now it is possible to have a Peach module, if you make the Aqua PSA over Peach instead of Zelda, then people could put Aqua over anyone they want.. just a thought, understand if you cant.

This is not by .rel port. :srs:

No I mean that there is a way now to port Peach over anyone (as I now have this PSA: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=29577 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=29577)    over MetaKnight). So if he puts Aqua's PSA over Zelda, it would have to stay over Zelda, but if he puts it over Peach, then people can use a .rel to put Aqua over anyone.

SB and LO and SW are making a peach rel file. so you can resquest this in the request thread.

Awesome models Jrush  ;D

Best of luck rigging all of them and on roxas cant wait to have this on my SD
well if a pc lets me >_>

Umm.. do you mean they're making a zelda over peach? Cuz I said it like 3 times now that I already have a custom Peach over anyone .rel

How about I make her over the both of them? Would that be cool? I have megaman over Peach in my game. Zelda doesn't have than many PSA's. But it's a small thing for me, I'll make her over both of them.

@Anivernage, Thanks man  ;D Hope you fix your PC soon. Still waiting on that Sasuke.

So I looked through my PC and I found lots of unrigged models that I wanted to make PSA's for so I started rigging all of them so they could be ready for animation.


- Vergil's Done (I just need to add Beowolf to him)

- Ichigo Shikai/Bankai almost done (I'm thinking of adding a 3rd transformation, the scary hollow one).

- Aqua's Done

- Lightning will be done by tomorrow so I can start with her.

- Dante, I'm having problems with the file-size for Devil Mode so he might not have it.

-Chris & Leon I'm re-rigging because I got better models.

All that's left is Nero, I'm going to have to do it all over again because I lost the files. But I'll give me a chance to redo the rig perfectly so that's cool.

@PearKnight, I have DDD Sora but there's already one on the vault, I think?

That's over pit

Wow, Aqua is stunning, can't wait for you PSA for her

That hand...

Hm... May wanna make sure she has fingers... so that way you wont have to give the hand that strange angle.

This ^ Though its a texture swap of KH1 Sora, yet it is either the model from Re: COM or BBSFM (which was hidden in the ISO)

@Jrush- Ohh that would be great lol thanks!

@PearKnight, I think the one I found is also a texture swap. This is it.


@Kagemaru, I haven't rigged her fingers yet so that's why it looks weird.

@jrush have you decided what your next releases are gonna be yet?

  I really wanna play with those Squall models you rigged, I'm so not fond of the kh squall models 
  on here. 

Ya that reminds me how far is Squall (Leon) Leonhart?

I like both Ventus and Aqua they both look really cool :o

@Heartlessnobody & Super Lucario, I haven't worked on Squall in weeks but last time he was getting on well.

As for Roxas, I'll do my best to release him by next week.

I got the final smash graphics back which i'll post soon and start PSA'ing it.

All that's left is the Final smash, some small animations which won't take time to do. Fix some small problems with him and that's it.

I won't release all the costumes though, I'll add those later as they need to be rerigged for the new boneset.

I think I've been working on him for too long.

Who's Roxas gonna be over?

I think he might over either Pit or Marth? (Or someone else?)

Roxas is over Marth for now, but i'm going to port him to someone else for release.

Thany did include a lot of .rel files for almost every character from her Roy PSA.

do you port without rels i hope so :P because i want al of your characters.

Ya one more thing how is Lightning coming cuz wasn't she supposed to be over Marth too..?

@Aelia, it isn't going to be a .rel port.

@Superlucarion, I haven't even rigged the lightning models yet so no I haven't started yet.

I'm having some model changing problems with Roxas and his stupid skateboard.

So besides Roxas.. who will be next?

Okay so i finished testing the moveset for Roxas. Overall it's pretty good, but there are, of course, things to be fixed.
-On the idle when I tested it, he did not rotate his keyblade all the way. Also you should move HIS right leg a little back to make it look less akward.
- AAA Combo is good, but the animation is throwing me off a bit. I don't know whether he's going too fast or too slow.
- All other A moves are good. :)
- Neutral Special is good, but the keyblade shouldn't move that fast.
- Up Special is amazing! I loved that move! :D
- Down Special was really good! Also loved it!
- Side Special is good, but he moves too far.
- All aerials's animations were awesome. However, on his front Aerial, if you keep using it in air, he will keep moving until he reaches the ground.
- Side Smash is okay, but he moves too far.
- All other smashes were great.
- The model you sent me wasn't Roxas' Final Mix model lol, not really something to type here, but just wanted you to know! If you thought some of these were offensive, I'm sorry, but thats how we are to critique, so that we help others know what to fix. Overall, outstanding :)

@jordanice, I've redone the animations for the attack AAA. I've slowed down the keyblade movement, the side special has a (if hitbox connects) command, the front-air is meant to be 3 attacks but I've added a little float to it though.

That was the final mix model, I'm sure. (It's like 16000 vertices)

Anyway these are his taunts so far.

(http://i.imgur.com/gxiZg.png)
Will also use for his entry and for the taunt he'll do a litlle pop-shove it. Skateboard has it's own bone.

(http://i.imgur.com/1MrJG.png)
He's the struggle champion so he gets a belt.  :) I think I'll add a move for the struggle bat.

(http://i.imgur.com/pmAKT.png)
I'm still working out the texture for the crystal. I can't find the trophy though.

Thanks to Carnage, I now understand model changers. I'm doing my best to have him ready by Friday. I also 2 more beta-testers for him. So if interested, let me know.

Does he push the skateboard away with his foot? If so, does it hit? Like how Snake's cardboard box can?

He doesn't do that, but I might add something like that. Thanx. I also just found a struggle trophy model so it'll replace the purse.

Jrush would you like SFX for Roxas?

Nice to here you've fixed those. Did you fix them after i told you, or did you notice and change them before i put up the review?

And idk. it didn't look like the final mix model to me
tho the pics u uploaded are, and btw, they're looking awesome! :D

May I beta test if possible please?

i dont wanna sound like a perfectionist, but its the alpha version :P

Oh okay then the Alpha version then thanks for the correction.

@jordanice, I corrected all the problems from that one some time ago. that was the 3 weeks ago version.

@Suna, sure. The one I'll send you will likely be the V1 version.

@Xchosen, I don't use Riivoluiton. But if you want to make an sfx pack , be my guest.

Okay feel free to send it whenever.

I have the SFX pre-made, i just need to know what character he'll be over and i might need the FitCharacter.pac if it's over another chr other than marth

I don't know who he's going to be over. But right now, he's over Marth.

jrush, was v1 made before or after the one you sent me? or is the one u sent me v1? anyways, whenever u make new updates, make sure u send them to me.

Port it over Ness, wario or Mr game & watch

this^
except g&w is paper mario soon slot :P

When he's really completed, I'll see if I can port him over multiple characters. Just post who you want him to be over.

I use Wario, and Ventus is over Ness, I have Naruto over GW. Maybe over Rob, fox, falco. We'll see when he's completed.

Rob is good. Marth is already for sora, and rob is already roxas on mine.
Also jrush64 regarding v1 of roxas, is that the one u sent me or one that as made after?

I'll use him for R.O.B personally... Sora is gonna be Marth for me... Luffy on the other hand, I don't know what I'm going to do with him...

@jordanice, The one i sent you is 3 weeks old. It's not even close to V1.

He'll be good over ROB. I just remembered Jigglypuff, I think I'll also port Roxas over him.

(http://i.imgur.com/ycFOC.png)

Kagemaru this is the Dante. Rig is 90% complete. It includes Devil mode for Transformation.
The weapons are;

Agni, Rudra, Cerberus, Shotgun, Nevan, Beowolf, Ebony, Ivory and Rebellion. Theyall have their own bones to make model changing easier.

Still need someone to help with the weapon textures. I can't just get them right.

Awesome :af2:

You forgot to mention Rebellion and Ebony/Ivory but those are standard xD

alright, then feel free to send over v1

@Jrush wheneva you get back to squall can I be his beta tester?

hey JRush, this Dante your making with all these different weapons, will his attacks change
depending on what weapon he is using at the time?

and is his Devil mode for his Final smash?

please tell me that dante isnt the one from PSASBR
Ill love you with no homo forever if true :af2:

It's his DMC3/MvC3 appearance.

:happy:

:af2:

Looks like I gotta update my Dante recolor pack since I see some red on dem wings. :>.>:

Wow, i had no idea there was a dante psa in progress *facepalm* well i just made this and i might as well share it with u if u need any ideas k? http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=53700.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=53700.0)

yeah ROB is a good port

that has alot of models lol you sure marth pcs can hold all that?

@heartlessnobody, you can beta Squall no problem.

@narutofan, I don't know. Kagemaru and I are still making a moveset.

@Anivernage, like pear_knight said. It's the DMC3 version. But I'd love to add the new version an alternate costume though. For some reason, I like it.

@rax, I'll check it out. But it's based on MVC3 and DMC3.

@Carnage, he can definitely work in game.

@superlucario, I've also finished Lightning's rig and It's the real PS3 model. I got it working in game.

I'll update in a couple of hours with pics for all the DMC stuff I'm working on. Including a surprise for Nero. I just need to finish my stupid homework.

Mine is based on Marvel vs Capcom 3 as well :D and i cant wait to use the psa with the new dante model :D

Hopefully there is enough space to do the different styles like I imagined.

We've been pushing the filesize limit of Marth lately... Sora, Roxas, Luffy... they all have a LOT of things in them. I believe at one point Roxas exceeded the FSL.

Dante will hopefully have:
Trickster
Swordmaster
Gunslinger
Royal Guard
(I feel like I'm forgetting one)

With all his different weapons... its gonna be cool. :D

@Kagemaru, yeah let's hope. I added a new weapon, Kalina Ann.  ;D . Roxas exceeded the Motion file because of all his moves, I have unused animations because of it.

So these are the DMC models.

Dante


Weapons are: Rebellion, Ebony and Ivory, Shotgun, Cerberus, Beowulf, Agni & Rudra, Kalina Ann and Nevan.

Working in Game  :af:

His DMC4 model and Devil model. All work in game too.
Still need to do some cleanups with the hands and everything but I'll work fine.

I also have his DMC3 model which will be another costume along with his DMC1 look and Rebellion replaced with Alastor.  When Kingskull releases his new Dante model, I'll add it with it's devil form. I like that Dante, I don't get everyone's problem with him.

His file size is like 720kb.

I need someone to please help me with the weapon textures as their just messed up.

Rig is 90% complete.

Vergil


Not much too show but he's complete. He's over Luigi with Marth's bones and working in game. UMVC3 moveset. He'll also have his DMC3 model. Also Rebellion on his back as he has some attacks with it.

Nero

....

YAMATO!!! Working in game.  :happy: Will rig over Nero's own bones for great movement along side Nero. He's likely to be over Wario. 10 finger's rigged for him. The Devil bringer arm is inside his devil arm.

He has the largest filesize, 840kb. I cannot add anything else to it.
 
Kagemaru is helping with Dante, I'm working on Nero and Vergil myself. If anyone wants to help, lemme know.

As for the other guys.

Lightning 100% complete. PS3 model not the other one I had. I can also begin working on her.


Roxas final model with Struggle bat, trophy, skateboard, struggle belt. Sea salt Ice cream is also there but forgot to add it.


He'll be released soon hopefully. I just need to work out some finishing touches and animate some smal things. Excited for him as I've been working on him for up to 3 months.

For Roxas: I'm more exited that a creeper destroying a house

So...much....hype...... :happy:

Also is that Lightning pic from BrawlBox? If so, I know how to deal with the hair.

@PearKnight, that Lightning isn't from BB. But how do you plan to help as I'll probably need it.

Follows thread from the shadows*

I'll post Roxas taunts tomorrow. This is a small screenshot.

(http://i.imgur.com/O8PUv.png)

Did you get my recent pm?

No. I didn't get a notification. I don't know why. I'll send it.

Kingskull Dante, hell yeah Jrush you got to get that lol

I do think a Playstation All stars battle royale Dante wuld be cool thought to :p

As for Nero... is it just me or does it look like Nero could easily be a Riku import (if you change him to look like Riku, and make the blue thing to be his heartless monster)??

So some new stuff for Roxas. This is his down taunt. It isn' completed yet though.

(http://i.imgur.com/B2F47.gif)

Now for what I wanted to show. I rigged his mouth and eyes just to see if I could.   ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/qneoml.png)


The mouth rig is fine. But the eyes are just all over the place. Check it out.

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4782/roxascrazy.gif) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/roxascrazy.gif/)


He likely won't have the eye rig for the final model. But the mouth rig is definitely staying.

Have you been talking to Pervy? He usually has crazy good mouth and eye rigs. If you want some tips, he could help.  But that looks good so far.

Also i'm of tomorrow so I'll work on Sasuke and Sora. we still doing the dual release?

Not bad though a few suggestions:

1) Make him transition into the squat on the board faster, and then hold the squat in place for a moment rather than going up almost straight away.  Strengthens the anticipation.

2) Make his body straight out completely before he leaves the ground.  And make this quick, about 6 or 7 frames of him straightening his legs and body up before leaving the ground and squatting in the air again.  Strengthens the action of leaving the ground.

3) He should rise to the top of his jump fairly quickly, do his kick flip near the peak, linger in the air for a tad then drop back down quickly.  Whilst KH characters have that distinct sort of "floatiness" about them, they should still obey the laws of physics.  The speed essentially arcs, starting fast then dropping to zero at maximum displacement then increasing again.

Hope that helps to improve it.

@Kagemaru, yeah I'm going for a dual release. I saw his work that's why I even bothered to try it. The reason the eye rig is a problem is because of the bone placement. I didn't add a bone tree in BB, I just duplicated bones in 3ds Max and rigged them. So it's just out of wack.

But I'm definitely going to keep the mouth rig though. I just wanted Roxas to be able to smile.

Also, I'll definitely want your Sora to have the HQ model from from Final Mix 2. So I'll have that ready for you by Friday hopefully.

@SilentDoom, Thanx for the input. It isn't really completed though, as I kind of did that in a rush. But I see the problems you pointed out and will definitely fix them.

Animating a person a skateboard is pretty annoying.

jrush, did you get my pm?

Hey, JRush, mind sending me a Sora model... I've gotten all the models I have mixed up and I don't know which one is for the release...

Nice Sora Costumes Over Marth, Can't Wait For Roxas.

Dude!!!!

More Hype for your thread!

Need some Roxas in my life man. Gotta have some epic Sora/Roxas/Riku fights...

I don't know much about the other guys to be too hype for them though... And I may have to re-do some stuff for Sora... Your skateboard thing is pretty cool idea. Sora's not exactly known for much besides being chaotic good and swinging a key around.

And hey, write me a movelist for Dante of what you want. I'll do the same, and we can decide on what to keep out of both our lists.

Nero and Virgil... I'd be willing to help if you want it. though I'm not as interested in them as I am Dante.

I thought about moves for Dante yesterday but I just couldn't think of how to use all the weapons there. I'll keep thinking throughout the day though.

As for Roxas, all that's left is some animations. Basically, wins, (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)es, cliff attack. Those kinds of animations. After that, I need to add final smash graphics. Hopefully i'll be done by Saturday or Sunday.

I'm nixing the skateboard entry as it'll take time to animate so I'm just going to do the Kingdom Hearts 2 intro one as that'll be easier.

I could probably use some help on Vergil but Nero is like Roxas to me, I want to take my time on him and get him well.

Also, forgot to tell you, Cerberus needs 2-3 more bones. Since its a 3 pronged nunchacku basically... I saw that it only had the 1 I think.

And are all those already set to model changers? If so, I'll need a list of what is what cause when it comes to model changers, I like to psa that as I go.

And Vergil is like Sephiroth IMO... I could help with that no problem.

They're not set to model changers yet, but I'll do that. I meant to give cerberus bones but I just forgot. I'll do that and send you a new model.

hey Jrush, how's the Dante PSA going?

and what happened to the Chris redfield PSA?

Thannks to Kagemaru for the awesome sig.

The good news is that I'm done with school projects for the year so I'm glad. Now I can finish Roxas and Squall.

I was able to rip models from Bleach Soul Resurrection and the Ichigo moveset I was working on has been majorly upgraded.

This is his final model.

(http://i.imgur.com/UUPvU.png)

As you can see I added Final Getsuga Tenshou which will be his final smash. The bat[censored]-crazy hollow transformation will be damage activated. And the Final mode I don't know yet where to put it but maybe It'll activate if you're already in the Final Getsuga tenshou mode already.

(http://i.imgur.com/PTzf1.png)

I've ditched Shikai Ichigo as I don't think they'll be enough space and I'll have to animate more moves. I got the model working in game though so that's good.

Anyway what do you think? If you have any suggestions on transformations let me know.

I don't know if it's possible to have so many model changers and final smashes but I'll test it out before I start work on it.

omg a Ichigo psa....HYPE!!!! I love you man (no homo)

ichigo 3 forms would be nice xD

Yeah it would. I'm making it in such a way that only final getsuga would have a different moveset. Hollow mode would just be a large cero you can control like Lucario's final smash while Mugetsu is like how it is in the manga.

Right now, I'm trying to get the model changers working before I start rigging the models. Heck if there's space, I might just add Shikai Ichigo and make him transform as a taunt then hollow mask as another taunt.

But we'll see.

model changers should be the last thing since you add them in bb becuase marth only has 1 i think but you can add 2 so you get all 3 ichigos in line

I'd leave out the shikai... But that's because I just don't like it.

I'd rather have bankai with the hallow mask as a taunt. While the mask is on after you take enough damage you have a chance to auto transform into hollow mode and attacks hurt yourself. And you stay that way until you die.

Fs would be mugetsu...

So 3 model changers.

Hollow mask
Hollow mode
Mugetsu

Hollow mode would have a huge cero blast that works like Samus beam but faster.

Normal mode could receive 3 very large getsuga tenshou blasts that can be used whenever.

Mask mode could have either the same as above but stronger or a speed slash combo or something

Mugetsu would probably be final getsuga tenshou.

If you haven't noticed, I've put some thought into this. Ichigo was on my to do list.

J, you should try and find someone willing to texture it into a brawl style.

I'm still thinking of what to do with everything but we'll see. I just dont want to animate new moves for hollow mode which is why I'll want it to just be a large cero blast that takes out everyone.

Still planning though.

I actually dont know what brawl-styled means.

less cartoon-ish more like saturated or realistic like textures eh...look at Brawl Mario and Super Mario Galaxy Mario.
;D

I could animate those moves for you? Tbh he could have the grab where he steps on you and does a cero and the grab where he did a ulqiora... And his fs animation...

The rest of his attacks could remain the same or change up the aaa combo.

On a side note, be sure to rig some bones into the bottom of Ichigo's suit. That will allow for more realistic animations.

And yeah... Brawl styled are more realistic looking. Less saturated and more detailed.

Well Roxas motion file isn't working anymore because it's 5mb. I'm so sick of this. i was pretty much done with all his animations.

Anyway I've started animating Dante now.

@Kagemaru, because of file size, we really can't have alot of moves for all Ichigo's forms.

So Roxas isn't working?

I have some vision that Phantom Wings will one day come and Fix Filesize problems. Or something.... -_-

impossible lol filesize is the wii ram unable to load such big files at once so unless you use wii u these wont be fixed lol maybe when we can hack wii u we will be able to get more filesize using the disk there

Maybe via ISO or something.

Nope

Well I got the motion file working now, it's 4.5mb.  I still need to animate entry though. I reduce the animation frames of some animations and use frame sped modifier to slow them down.

He really has a lot of attacks.

What you could do is open the motion file in BB (Not the previewer) and expand the animations individually.

Once you do that you can go into the bones and see whats being used.... if the bone isn't being used at all... Like... A cape bone... or a what would be Marth's shoulder pad (that roxas doesn't have) just delete it. Basically delete the bones from the animations that aren't used. I had to do this with Sanji. Sanji is over Peach and Peach had hair bones, a crown bone, and dress bones, some shoulder and wrist bones that Sanji wasn't using... so I went through and deleted them from the animation individually.

It took a while, but I brought his motion file down enough to where it was usable...

You could do that for Roxas and you'll probably fix your issue and have more room for animations.

damn......looks like I will HAVE to get Smash Bros Wii U in order to get past file size limit IF possible......that sucks because I'm almost sure that finding an exploit will take years as it did the wii.

I'm waiting till Smash Bros 4 comes out to get the Wii U... Its pretty much the only game that interests me for the Wii U tbh.

Exact same thing goin on in my mind. By the time that ssb4 comes out the price will be lower anyway

I KNOW RIGHT!

Savin money like a baws...

Lol and I'm sure at the same time there will be like a promo skin to go with it or a new Wii U like they made a Red Wii for New Super Mario Bros Wii

I'm really tempted to get a Wii u right now though. But i do agree that It'll be good to wait till the price comes down and SSB4 comes out.

Except a new Zelda, Metroid or Mario Galaxy like comes out next year.

Just decided to pop in and see how Roxas is coming along.

Is there going to be an update on Riku?

@Suna, he's almost completed. I'm just adding his final smash gfx right now. Then I also want to add some effects to his moves and a limit mode to him that's damage activated.

@chaoswolf, Riku update will come later. After Roxas and Squall.

Someone make a video of Sora fighting Riku

PLEASE!

A good one... preferably two players...

I might make a video of that. But I'm definitely using Sora to demonstrate Roxas in Sora's awakening stage with the song playing.

Anyway, this is his final smash.

(http://i.imgur.com/BTIqw.png)

I got the gfx working but their having transparency issues, that's why they are blue like that. If anyone can help me it'll be greatly appreciated.

Is there a way to tint the screen black, because I can't find how to do it.

Thats... That FS is not fair...

Thats cooler then Sora going into Valor Form :srs: :oshi:

Will that FS be the Same as kh 2 FM (y'know with the energy balls coming at the opponent)
or will it be somewhat like KH 358/2 days

Better come up with a better FS :srs:

@Kagemaru, lol. Maybe we can give Sora all his drive forms as Final smashes.

@Xchosen. It's a mixture of the both of them. I have the energy balls but I dont want to program them for this version. I don't even know how. This just seems more appropriate.

On another note, he should be ready for release this week hopefully.

I will finally have a video preview sometime this week.

I might have to :srs:

BRAINESTORM TIME!!!

anyone with ideas feel free to throw them in my thread so we don't spam up J's thread.

On a side note, when it comes time for v2 of Sora, you wanna help me with that J cause I can see that you know more about KH then I do so you may be able to help me come up with some better stuff.

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Ninja posted...

All his Drive Forms... wouldn't work because he moves differently in all of them and the game only recognizes one run/jump etc

I've done so many awesome battles with my friend, but with no way to turn them into video  :oshi:
But if I can suggest something, try also a team battle with Sora and Riku against the Xemnas PSA, maybe give him better IA (or HP for a special rule battle) for balance. Or also Sora and Riku vs Xemnas and Ansem SoD (the cool one other Ganondorf), but this would be quite chaotic but still fun to do (along with Terra vs Aqua vs Ven, even they are only textures).
But still... That FS of Roxas seems damn cool, and I'm sure it will be awesome once it would be finished, with the black screen and trasparency issue solved!
... So many cool PSA are coming on the vault  :happy:

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Double ninja posted

What about the combo he does against Xemnas, the last one with two keyblades, adding even the final beam? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auiGcNJECk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9auiGcNJECk) at 7:31) Something like the combo of SMBZ Mario of MarioDk, where he dash forward and if he touch a rival he start the combo, while the enemy can't moves around. I said that here because it's a short and quick suggestion.

@Kagemaru, I guess all drive forms might not work. I'll definitely help with v2 man, no problem. I actually have an awesome idea for a final smash for Sora with valor form.

I might just make a small mini Xemnas psa, just a villain for the KH characters.

Some small updates, I've changed his single keyblade throw to double keyblade throw for his neutral. I wanted to code it in such a way he throws 1 keyblade when you press b once then if you hold it, he throws both but there wasn't enough space for the move.

In fact he's attacks3s, attackhi3 and attack lw3 were all supposed to have follow ups but space size I scrapped them.

Right now I'm trying to program limit mode for him. Basically when you take his health to 300%, every move he does. he sends those beams of light at you. they do only 1 damage but they are just to knock you back.

He does this in the game.

@Lucifergale, I'll check it out

That would be fantastic! You can find one on the vault, not too bad but it's kinda incomplete in some parts. But most of the attacks looks pretty cool, if you want to check it out.

lol 300? i dont think he is heavy enough to last even for 200% most people will never activate that imo.

If 300 is too large then I'll lower it to like 200. But I'm just testing out to see how it goes.

Smash Bros. still lacks villains. :srs:

Moar bad guys eh...

Well i'm working with Albafika on a Sephiroth revamp.

We should get a metal sonic psa at some point.

Ganon, Bowser, Wario, I'll help with xemnas, I was waiting on magneto cause i'm not a fan of Dr doom, and I was also waiting on a brolly with rigged hands and a better texture.

Far as Sora goes, I may make v2 use master form since the combos are cooler. Might have space to let valor form be taunt activated.

@Kagemaru, is the Sephiroth based of Dissidia? Cus i'll definitely love to help with that

I don't know much about Sonic but no problem if you want. Also what's the difference between Sonic and Metal Sonic apart from him being Metal?

Will definitely need help with Xemnas. He's pretty much the best organization xiii member, plus I love his dual light sabers.

I believe he is. You could also check into Albafika's thread and tell him you want to help out.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=37889.360 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=37889.360)
 I'm pretty positive he'll let you.

Lol no offense, I agree that it would be cool to have a better Sephiroth.. but there are SOO many Sephys on the vault XD

We need a more up to date one. The current "best" one kinda sucks

Also metal sonic I was just mentioning as a possible future bad guy.i'm not planning to make a psa for him.

Alright then.

This is Roxas side-special with the limit activated. The gfx still needs work of course and the hitboxes need to be fixed also, but at least you should see where I'm going with this. It only appears on the special attacks though.

They do 1 damage and the hitbox size is pretty small though.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img819/2779/201212032312ew43640x520.gif)

All that's left for Roxas is placing the right hitboxes and fixing the GFX.

Looking good. is version 1 near being ready to test? :o

Holy snaps that looks awesome geez so much hype for this can not wait!

My laptop got damaged and now I lost everything. :(  sucks for me these days.

But glad to see Roxas is almost done, Nd dat means Squall is next  :happy:..Do you still like his moves you already had animated for him ? (squall)

@kagemaru I was thinking there could be separate drive forms psa on Brawl for Sora in the future. That would be awesome.

I talked it over with my best friend and we finalized the idea of making Sora activate valor as a taunt. do a final form for his fs and have that do a combo on multiple people.

Hey can you port the Roxas PSA over Diddy kong

Since its over Marth, yeah.

I was planning to use a .rel to have Roxas over ROB tbh. I just hope the GFX still work when its Sora vs Roxas...

Thats also a reason why I didn't wanna do too many imported GFX for Sora is cause ppl port them and GFX usually glitch up and stuff...

if you sues diferent gfx its bound to have problems there is a way around that but involves adding gfx slot to both of them  so they have the same gfxs but each one calls it diferently on the index.

Sora has a couple imported GFX. Mainly the Strike Raid keyblade and his forward Air attack has that gfx from KH2... Aerial finisher is the combo I believe you see it in.

Roxas is GFX heavy though... I hope it pots well cause I'd really like to have both of them. >_>

When I port Roxas, I'll insert all the gfx myself so there's no gfx glitch. If I port him over Peach, would the perfect port cause gfx glitch.

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Also, I've rigged and started work on Xemnas.

(http://i.imgur.com/ui0Zw.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/KvxIW.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6Zgh4.png)

He's over Ganon.

Dayum..... :srs: That reminds me of Cloud's side smash when he is in Limit Break.

Xemnas over Ganon... I love it!

Edited boneset or still regular Ganon's? I can see him using Xemnas moveset.

Edited bones. Ganon's body is really weird. I will edit the motion file to fit Xemnas bones.

I say he should use one saber and then pull the second one out like Ganon does for alternate moves.

Ganon has an extra grab too. And a air one. We should do something nice with that one.

That side special on Roxas is awesome good luck with fixing the GFX problem.

Good news, Roxas is like 98% complete. Seriously, he really is. I've added all hitboxes added so many moves and he's playing well. I might post a video today or tomorrow and release him on Friday.

I just need to rig all his costumes. I have normal Roxas, Shadow Roxas, Organization XIII cloak hooded and unhooded, Pajama Roxas. There's space for 1 more costume but I don't know what it should be.

Maybe Ven's armor or a nintendo costume....

I want to add 1 more extension to the final smash that happens only if you hold the b button to it. But the motion file is 4.64mb and I don't think I'll be able to add it. But we'll see.

@Kagemaru, yeah I forgot Ganon had throws. We could probably use it for something.

What about the grab and throw he does with Sora, at 1:02? KHII - Sora & Riku vs Super Xemnas V (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUm8ZlgX3p4#)

Maybe could do minor damage, and could be used mostly to start some finest air combos~
Or maybe you do the throw and then you can choose: If you press a button (A or B) you proceed with the attack like the one in the video, with the teleport and the saber uppercut; If you don't press anything you'll obviously do nothing, and then you can freely jump and chase the enemy with an aerial combo, or just attack him with some verticals techniques. The first could be quickly but not much powerful maybe. With this two choises you can play some mind games with the opponent, that wouldn't know if you'll go after him or just chill and move around doing something else.
On a side note, I see Xemnas as a air beast, with a lot of mobiliy and not so much power for balance, but that's another story.

I would suggest Ventus with Wayward Wind and Lost Memory.

@Lucifer_gale, that throw will definitely be there. But If you have a moveset planned, feel free to post it. I don't have anything yet so I'll definitely use that.

I was thinking of letting him morph into young xehanort and master xehanort or something. I think there all the same persons, right?

@chaosknight, alright. I rig the armored one with those keyblades.

In a way yeah, they are the same person, with Master Xehanort as the original one, Xemnas as his nobody and Young Xehanort (KH-DDD Spoiler)
But I don't think that that would work quite well, as each one of this version has his own moveset (Master Xehanort with darkness and keyblade, Xemnas with laser and Young Xehanort with time manipulation and keyblade). For a morph you could use the final form of Xemnas in KH2, the one with the black and white coat, and maybe that could be more quickly and adding the vines, since he does not use them until that moment I think.
As for a moveset... I don't have nothing done at the moment, only few ideas for him and some of his attacks, like his checkered shield (1:29 )(maybe for the Down-B as a temporaly stationary wall that does damage if anyone touch it, but you have to stay still and be guardless from behind or above), lasers as the ones he use in his final battle, his spinning laser-saber combo (1:36 ) that I think the Xemnas on the brawl has as a Side-Smash, and maybe this at 2:07 as another grab ).
If you want an hand for moveset I will gladly help you, studying his moveset in the others game like 358-2 days, since he has a full set of attacks there, one for each type of weapon.

How about the last slot for Roxas have two different key blades?
Right hand Bonds of Flames
Left hand Two Became one

Or
Kingdom key and DQ kingdom key (Mickys)

Or
Struggle bat
Struggle wand

I was thinking... and  if you're rigging Xemnas make sure to set both his sabers to a model changer so that we can have them go away when he gets sent flying... Kinda like... you know... he's not concentrating on using them while he's trying to regain his composure in mid-air.

I also see him as a mid-air beast but thats pretty much everyone in KH1 and up...

Xemnas will probably be more combo oriented. We could actually structure him for the combo cancel system. No other PSA has really worked well with that concept besides Kid Buu. SMBZ Mario v3 and SMBZ Sonic has it but its not as usable as Kid Buu's. I think we could do some good work with Xemnas if he had it. Weak base attacks that pull in for combo's then finishing with strong Smashes.

Hey guys so the video is at the top. The moveset is complete all that's left is a few gfx problems and fix the final smash hitbox. But it's completed and I will release it tomorrow.

Dual-Wield Roxas PSA Moveset (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLqBh_TYx4w#ws)

Video is kind of blurry but I'll record a clearer one tomorrow.

The side special is aimable in 7 directions and he switched to the struggle bat for some moves as you can see.

I've rigged all the costumes.
(http://i.imgur.com/FaPIu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/dvSIh.png)(http://i.imgur.com/Pocpd.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/27ppb.png)(http://i.imgur.com/dS50f.png)

I'm trying something called Organization XIII logo eyes. Does it look creepy?

(http://i.imgur.com/rIiRx.png)


Tomorrow I'll start the port over R.o.b, hope i don't get any errors or else ill just release him over Marth.

Maybe I'll port him over Peach also so you can use the .rel to port over whoever you want.

I also want him to be displayed on the blog.

that looks epic xD i wish i had someone like you rigging all ridleys :P i really love when ppl rig extra models instead of recolours

@Carnage thanx  ;D. Do you know how to create a poll so i can put the video at the top. I can also rig Ridley's for you if you want. Just send me the models.

i once tryed to add a poll but i never figured out how  really either its an hidden command or you need to have one when the thread is created? dkn i never did actually got one working that wasnt with the beginning of the thread and i might like the other m ridley not sure if you know how to do boneedits like snoopy did xD

@Okay. I'll look into Ridley. If you look at the video, do you know how I can remove those things that appear on Marth's final smash?

On the bottom right corner (Above Quick Reply) there is a command called new poll

i never even have them apear on my marth hacks lol i think they  come do to a certain gfx call but you can do this download fit marth final.pac from the recorces then either replace it with an empty gfx or change the bone with index 1 to no trasnform and recize it to 0 on the previewer

Thanx man.

@Carnage, all right I'll do that. It just started appearing recently I dont know why.

@Suna sent it to you

Still need me as a playtester?

looks awesome. if u need some testing for roxas. suna and i are here to help. ;)

Indeed

 I actually gave the sabres bones so he could bring them out like a lightsaber. I'll show you what I mean tomorrow.

I dont actually know what the combo cancel system that you're talking is. I guess I'll check it out if it would work for him.

my god.... i love the hack!!!!!!
Roxas PSA looks incredible

Download kid Buu...

Basically he can auto cancel certain attacks once they connect and use another attack. Basically the mvc combo system but in brawl.  I'm on my phone but I'll show you how to make a poll when I get home.

When will Roxas be released?

He said on the last page...

Friday...

I am normally pretty lax about when people do that but it was JUST said on the page before >_>

Anyway...

Because of your Roxas, I'm motivated to fix up some animation issues that I'd overlooked with Sora. currently I'm fixing his falling animations since I seemed to have forgotten to do those. Might do a new Down-Tilt and fix up some other stuff while I'm at it.

I'm also off friday so I'll probably stream (i'm streaiming right now) most of tomorrow morning to mid-day.

theres more to it than that you have to make tilts have like a fixed low knockback so you can hit with a smash/special next or the on hit cancel will be useless on higher percentages

Now to get rid of the hit counter.....

Yeah I know there is more to it then what I said, but I was just describing the basic idea of what it is.

Right now, im having freezing issues with Roxas and his damn model changers. I don't think ill be able to release it today because of this.

That sucks.

Hey are you done with classes for today? shoot me a pm if you're generally not busy

Yeeeah, you just won over my Marth slot with the poll video.....

Hey, Whats Gonna Be The Next Hack You Are Gonna Make Ater Roxas ?

Xemnas Over Ganon ? I Thought You Are Gonna Put Terra Over Ganon Because I Wanna Riku Terra And Xemnas ? (No Rel Port Please I Can't Use Character Rels).

I Really Love Your Roxas Over Marth I Gonna Dowload Him As Fast As I Can If You Realease Him After Fix His Freezing Problems.

I Really Can't Wait For More Preview Of Squal, Aqua, Terra, Ventus, Xemnas.

I cant release Roxas to day because he just keeps freezing everytime i use a model changer. And it was working yesterday, I just dont get it.

After Roxas I'm releasing Squall, hopefully he should be done soon as i finished animating him a long time ago.

I'll put Terra over someone else entirely, I forgot he was supposed to be over Ganon.

still getting those freezing isues... thats strange.

Edit: You test those things?

Yeah i just dont get it. When i add a new model changer, it just freezes.

The one i sent you yesterday is practically the same thing but i doesnt freeze. It's too frustrating.

You sure it's not the other hacks you use?

It cant be the other hacks I'm using. I'm trying a fresh pac file from the mediafire folder.  I use Link or Mario to test it every time and it's the same thing.

The old one which i used to make the video, that one doesn't freeze. It work's fine.

Whats not finished with the one from the video?

A few limit mode moves need to be added, that's all. The problem with that one was that he couldnt grab for some reason nor pick up items.

that was why i was redoing it.

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Post Merge: December 07, 2012, 03:05:32 PM

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So I copied everything from Marth to Peach and I added new model changers and it worked. So I'm going to continue copying everything over to Peach and see if it works fine.

HURRAY FOR SOLUTIONS!

this also frees up competition for the Marth slot >_>;

I just realized that Sanji was gonna go there...

But then I remembered that he doesn't have any imported GFX since his Jamble mode was gonna be acomplished by a model changer + fire gfx from Brawl...

So now I just need to figure out where to put Sanji.

What about the perfect peach port?

I'll post as soon as I check if all the a attacks are working.

I haven't tested it yet so I don't know how 'perfect' it is... what exactly is 'perfect' about it?

I assume its just a .rel like Marth or Ike.

yes it is , its a rel you still need  codes depending on the char you port

@Carnage, I'll still send you the marth files to see what's up. But I'm going to keep him on Peach for now then tomorrow I'll port him over ROB.

The A attacks are working now so i'm onto the specials. But i've forgotten how to fix the walking glitch where he doesn't move.

I know it has something to do with the  TransN bone placement.

will porting Sanji to a different character get rid of that float Peach has?

Porting Roxas to Peach shouldn't be an issue since its originally a Marth hack so he doesn't have that float if I'm understanding correctly.

I don't know yet. I'll post an update on the specials when I'm done. Should be soon. I'm redirecting the subactions.

wait what are you guys doing? are you guys rel porting marth over peach? doing a true port over peach? should o ask why to either? marth is rel portable already why model port over another portable chars it doesnt make much sence really.
need to fix all bonereferences and hurtboxs and im not sure what you guys are doing but something fells wrong about this you arent doing this right.

Im doing a true port without a .rel.

Like i said, the model changers were freezing over Marth so I moved him to peach and im not getting any errors.

The issue is Peach doesn't have that many subactions.

peach has the floting and the no downB in the air wich becomes annoying isntead of porting over peach you should really just get the last working marth one and update it with the new codding instead of messing with float/no downB in air among other things peach likes to do hard code for you guys are trying the long way around lol

I didn't know Peach had no Downb. Well I got all specials working except down B... So I guess that's time wasted.

Time to try ROB.

dont touch rob at all lol most of its moves  you need special offensive collisions to even make them do knockback lol i say again grab the last working marth one and fix it instead of doing everything from the start also copying between windows set edje slide/disalow certain movements and some other codes make you get a corrupt pac file after you save

The old marth pac file. He can't grab at all. he cant pick up items either. Do you know how to fix that?

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Post Merge: December 07, 2012, 04:20:07 PM

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I went back to Marth and tried a new switch and it seems to be working... so far. Let me set some more Model Changers.

haha this is such a hassle isn't it? Good luck to you bro. Also, I'll be testing it soon. :)

Yeah, that does suck when you're close to a release but then stuff just starts going wrong.

I've released Sora v1.5 though. Figured I wouldn't just sit on it.

Also streaming Akuma animations. Information will be in my thread so as to not spam J's thread.
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I know you're dealing with Roxas atm so I'm not gonna bother you about TL, Xemnas, or Dante since you probably haven't touched them cause you're trying to get Roxas squared away.

thats easily fixed you messed the marth bonereferences by adding bones correct? thats fixed in like 1 min lol

@Kagemaru, okay. But I think Ive fixed my problem.

I always set the model changers on bone switch1, group 2 and it froze. So I took your Sora and added like 6 bone groups an I tried the struggle bat model changer on group 7 and it didnt freeze.

So I'm going to try and do it again, but the stuff is just nuts.

@Carnage, seriously???? Please how do they fix it? Also I added more bones.

if you open the pack directly there are alot of bone references and the most important ones are in the misc department send me his pac file and his mdl0 and i fix it for you in 1 min or two  you cant just add bones and think stuff is gonna be okay same when porting the model you need to fix all bonereferences  i can fix it for you but normal marth models wont work woth the psa after i adapt it to roxas boneset

He uses a modified boneset so that's fine. I'll send it to you. Give me a sec.

Once again, amazing animations and moveset. Definitely better than the first version you sent. Here are the problems i had with roxas:
-The game crashes/freezes when quitting a Brawl match.
-No GFX
-when i selected Roxas and unselected him, then selected him again, my wii crashed.
Those are the only problems I encountered when playing with Roxas. Overall amazing. :)

The next few things i am about to share are things that you don't have to fix. U don't even have to listen to this if you don't want to. These are the graphic/animation improvement suggestions
The * means i really hope you fix this.

-No GFX (thought i'd put this again)*
-Still doesn't spin the keyblade on the idle.*
-When pulling out the little ball from the trophy, he shifts too much back and forth.
-I noticed that he is really small, body proportionally-wise compared to Sora and Riku.*
-On idle, one leg should be more back. This will make him look a lot less stiff. Hope you consider this.*
-when throwing the keyblade (Neutral Special) the keyblade moves too fast.

Other than that, again, really really great work! You are definitely one of the best PSA and animation artists on kcmm! Looking forward to the final version!

Too bad the best new comer award is already over. But I definitely have some competition for best animator with J other.

I'm sure he'll fix the size issue once the bigger problems are solved.

Since Roxas is over Marth, then he has sword trails. That's an easy addition so it'll be on there. I'm sure.

@Jordanice, thanx. So ri answer your post.

-gfx glitch is fixed perfectly, I used Lucas PK thunder to insert the gfx and this time it shows on the Wii.

-The reason it freezes on the results screen is because of the model changers I figured that out, so thats also fixed too.

- I edited all the animation tranlsations for Roxas so he doesn't look that long, that is using Marths lanky size so that's why he looks small compared to Riku and Sora.

I'll try to shift the leg back but I might have to edit all the animations and I don't want to do that now.

I'll fix everything else when I'm sure it works.

I just received the file from Carnage and tried it on dolphin it looks actually fixed.  So Thank You very much Carnage. Thank You.

Is it because of bone references that the model changers were freezing?

The problem is it still freezes whenever you get to the results screen and also freezes when MarioDK's vegeta grabs him.

I'm just going to use Marth's original model changers and scale the items for the subaction.

Anyway, I'm going insert the new gfx and play it on my wii for some time. I tried the new gfx early yesterday and it shows on the wii.

If it all works great with no freezes, then I'm releasing him today.

So it's testing time.

You can change the scale of all animations at once. That and replace, add, subtract, both scale and translations for individual animations or all of them at once.

Sora seems to be a good size... I didn't even realize Sora has scaled parts until yesterday. His feet, hands legs, are slightly scaled in places.

Anyway, glad to see things are working.

So i set all the items to the model changer marth already had. And I scaled all the items to 0 except the one he's using so that's fixed everything right up. I should have just done that yesterday.

But the thing that's bothering me is why I cant add model changers to Marth anymore.

from what i saw you had tons of them lol you cant add a reference 3 if thats what you are talking about

I didn't reference 3. it was a fresh .pac file. Try getting a fresh .pac file and adding a new model changer and see if it freezes when you call it.

Anyway,so i fixed everything by using only 1 model changer and scaling the items. it doesnt freeze anymore. so i need to insert the gfx and test it before i release him.

How many things are scaled? How big are they?

Cause when he gets grabbed, they will scale back to normal size.

@Kagemaru, I used a model changer to hide all of the items. They dont show when he's grabbed.
But when I call the model changer for the taunts and wins. All items show up, so I scale the unneeded ones to 0.

Ive checked with other characters and they dont show up during throws. In fact it only shows up when grabbed MarioDK's vegeta but I can't fix that.

(http://i.imgur.com/gzShB.png)

Screenshot from my Wii. GFx working on the wii now.  :af:

There are no more freezes so that's good.

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Post Merge: December 08, 2012, 10:56:35 AM

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I can definitely say that Roxas is finally complete and ready for release. Everything is working now and no freezing. I'm putting CPU vs CPU on my wii to make sure.

Is Marth's hit counter removed? :o

Yeah. It doesn't show up anymore.

Are all the costumes rigged? Or r u looking for that last one still cuz i found a pretty cool model.

glad to see if my fixes worked and i now understand what your saying about model changers lol using only one you can still  some diferent ones at the same time if needed  for example you can show one sword and  the ice cream at the same time by adding another bone on the ice cream model changer also this is just a warning but your nearing marth filesize your motion is huge and your pac file isnt small so beware you dont go filesize on marth since is motion is looking to be near the red line.

@jordanice, all costumes are rigged. I'm just testing them in game. I need u to test the last file and let me know if theres any problem.

@Carnage, yeah thanx for your file. But I didn't actually use it because it still froze on the victory screen and whenever MarioDK's vegeta grabbed him. But I used a new pac file and he's finished now.

I know his motion file is very large, I can't even add anymore animations to him. I can send you the final file if you want to test him out.

Actually what did you think about him?

Thanx again for your help.

So I'm at my grandmothers house and they just apparently just got xfinity here... so that means I can use my laptop with the wireless (I just set that up for them)

So HUZZAH!

Anyway... glad to see that Roxas is coming along great and being finished. :D

also, sorry to ask, but what exactly IS roxas' last costume?

he still needed some work especially on the combos except the Up b that move works preety great

Side B he needs to stop before the character  and not after and his moves have so very little knockback that if you get hit by the first 2 you can shield and roll out or just shield

downB the hitbox should only be activatable by the front since he rushes foward sometimes if your oponent is near your back you can activate it and rush to no mans land  like side b it has a tiny knockback and its really useless this move should paralize ppl like wolf gun or zss gun if you pass by the person they would be stun and then fly off imo

n-b its kinda fast and could use some knockback really try something like samus missiles knockback wise

the problem on roxas is anyone can shield/dodje/or even hit you  after 2 or 3 moves of his combos making them almost impossible to pull off all the way

Ventus, I think.

@Carnage, thanks for the feedback. When i was playing with him today, I noticed CPU rolling out of the side B. So I added a stun to hit 1, 3 and 5. Just before the final hit. I also sped it up a little bit.

I'm going to add more knockback to the NB and the downB, I agree with you. It should only hit from the front. Don't know why it didn't occur to me.

@jordanice, these are his costumes.

amazing costumes! though since i dislike ven, due to looking too much like roxas, imma prolly replace that costume with the one that i sent u ^^'

No clothed Ventus? :o and those Org. XIII eyes do look creepy. O.o

And does PJ Roxas fight with ice cream? :happy:

The armored one is cooler. I gave PJ roxas struggle bats as normal weapons. lol, he doesn't fight with ice cream.

probably not, lol it's just a render. x)
also i found this, it might be a separately released costume if it works. (made by SoraPrincess on deviantart, i got permission tho)

Do want..... :srs: I can tell it uses parts from Cloud.

ikr? me too. the pants is from Zidane as well. :srs:

@Jrush64 Notice the stretched out organization cloak zipper

well, its because when the legs seperate like that, the textures will stretch a bit, so there's no fixing to that.

@Xchosen. the zipper has to stretch because of the way i rigged it. or else it would only go to one leg.

I've finished work on Roxas now, he's 100% complete. All costumes are done and working in game.

But i'm going to spend the whole day testing him tomorrow just to be sure there are no freezing issues.

I will make a new clearer video highlighting all his moves.

3 months work finally done.

Can't wait. ;D After Roxas is Squall, right?

Yeah Squall. He isn't as move heavy as Roxas is and I've finished animating him already. Already PSA'd rough divide which was the most difficult.

i hope to get Squall done in 2 weeks.

I'm doing Lightning and Squall at the same time.

testing and rigging the model that is, right? ;)
also, what keyblades will u give it? i was thinking either:
-Roxas' original pair (oathkeeper and oblivion)
-Oblivion and Two Become One (because it matches the colors on his clothes.)

will your Lightning PSA be over zero suit samus?

ZSS has a very very low filesize. It's the reason why she barely has any at all.

I have no idea who Lightning will be over right now. Maybe Jigglypuff? No Idea yet though.

Squall is over Falco definitely.

Regular Samus..? And how far is Lightning into develpoment??

I don't think Regular Samus will work too.

Samus is just as bad as ZSS :/

I'm down for Squall over Falco though.

This and also because is IronMan spot.

That too...

We got Iron Man to work over Samus... Keep that slot open >_>;

Squall over Falco??? Sweeeeet!!!

You find any interesting costumes for Lightning yet ?

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Squall over Falco??? Sweeeeet!!!

You find any interesting costumes for Lightning yet ?
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Btw Jrush, I just remembered a problem with Lightning's hair. I need to resend you her soon.

 

I guess I'm fine with Squall over Falco. Too bad, I'll miss Scizor....

i assume that he will be released sometime this afternoon/evening?

Yeah he'll be released today. Evening my time, Afternoon your time. I'm making CSP's now and watching CPU fight against CPU to test.

Watching a couple of awesome matches, Roxas vs Riku, Roxas vs Sora. Roxas vs Riku vs Sora vs Vanitas. All cpu controlled.

I need find a way to make Kagemaru's Sora vs my Roxas fight without gfx glitch.

maybe you use a .rel port? unless thats what causes the gfx to screw up in case you could do a no rel port of roxas.

Does that happen with just Sora fighting anyone? Or just Roxas?

Just Roxas.

hm. :/ well i dunno

Should of read here first... If its just Roxas then its not cause the thrown bone scales itself up cause that would happen against anyone.

Everyone for me (Sora Keyblade Pack)

So I'm about to release Roxas now.

(http://i.imgur.com/8I5Xv.png)

I also rigged this Riku so you have that fight against Roxas.

(http://i.imgur.com/0MTcj.png)

Here are some awesome screenshots I took on my Wii


@Kagemaru, I don't think it's against Roxas only.

Now wait... Vanitas?? There isn't a vanitas PSA out there is there.. or I would know about him... right....?

Nice! Also it was hard for me to notice shadow Roxas on that picture. btw did the .pmd file work?

Hm... well if its against everyone, the its a simple fix. Nothing too hard.

I'll see if I can have that done in a bit actually *is home now*

First Download ;)

The vanitas psa isn't really a full moveset but it's really good. Fun to use and fight against.

So... I'd like to see some videos of these PSAs in action. :af:

Preferably players... but Computers will suffice. >_>;

did you get my pm jrush?

Now that Roxas is completed, I've zipped up his pretty large folder only to be opened upon any errors.

Squall & Lightning next on my list. Squall's will come out first because he's in psa mode. Lightning just starting animations.

I'm so glad Roxas is done, took way too long. Might have been working on him for 3 months but if you can the days, it was only like 3 weeks really. I redid his animations so many times.

Anyway thanks to everyone who was interested in him. Hope you like him.

I'd also like someone to record a video of them using Roxas. I hope to upload a better video soon.

It may have taken 3 months, but the outcome was definitely worth it.

I'll do a video and send you the link

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Post Merge: December 09, 2012, 01:30:33 PM

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I can probably have it done by the end of the day

Time for Roxas to talk (Have his voice)

Well you can make the sfx pack I don't know anything about it. But let me hear it first though.

If you have any issues with the moveset let me know, i'll get to it tomorrow. Me, I'm off to party.

Here's a link to Roxas' voice files.
English:
http://www.sounds-resource.com/ds/kh358/sheet/156 (http://www.sounds-resource.com/ds/kh358/sheet/156)
Japanese:
http://www.sounds-resource.com/ds/kh358/sheet/68 (http://www.sounds-resource.com/ds/kh358/sheet/68)

I hope you know your Japanese. >_>

lol xD

I'm using both 358/2 days and KH 2, and tbh KH 2 has more SFX that 358/2 days :P

oh, ok i just wanted to help. Also, it would be cool if you used the "You're Finished" sfx for the final smash and the "You can't stop me" for the Wii Remote sound effect on the CSS.

Wouldn't that yell he where he does Magic Hour in KH2FM be better for FS sfx?

lol, i'll used your finished it's just that i have to edited FitRoxas.pac and add a SFX to it, and i guess i could use "You can't stop me" for both the victory line and wii remote SFX

i have video preview of the KH 2 voice

Jesse McCartney as Roxas in Kingdom Hearts II (Battle Quotes, Extracted) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUaDiIs9cpA#ws)

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Post Merge: December 09, 2012, 02:24:36 PM

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i'm going to do 2 or 3 seprate SFX, 1 with the yell, and the 2nd "you can't stop me" (or 3rd i might use "give me strength")

Erm...I think it's best you 2 take it to Chosen's thread. Here it seems off-topic now.

your right

tried roxas and he's awesome

...Where'd the download go? Dual-Wield Roxas doesn't seem to be in the Vault anymore.

Hey Jrush slight delay I might need a tiny bit more time it should be done either by the end of the day, tomorrow, or tuesday

What are you talking about?

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30063 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30063)

did you look in the marth section

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=20891 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=20891)

That's what I'm talking about. If it shows only three items and the most recent is the Sora colour pack, that's the problem I'm having.

@XChosenOne1: I tried Advanced Searching "Dual-Wield Roxas" and got nothing.

*facepalm*

Ohh ya it's not there because it's still "pending". It will be in his vault and in the whole vault in a few hours when it's approved by and admin. It will be on the top 10 now though

looks like i can't add the FS Voice to Roxas (cause the Marth.pac won't open in PSA) i guess i have to leave the FS Voice out :(

@Xchosen, you can use BB to insert the sfx. I used BB to PSA him.

Not yet, you can't.

Thats in the new BB right? I recall BJ saying the next BB would be better for sound hacking.

But yeah, J the thing about psaing in BB is that some stuff can still only be done via PSA which you can't do after you psa with BB.

Not a huge issue but in this case, Roxas can't get any sounds unless someone re-creates his .pac in psa from scratch.

Ok didn't know that. Well when I found who to port him over, I'll probably do it in PSA then.

Anyway hope you guys are enjoying Roxas... don't know why he' still pending though.

I post some things on Lightning, She's going pretty great. way quicker than I imagined.

Are You Gonna Work On Aqua After Squall Please.

And Yeah Really Great Roxas I Play Always With Him And Riku

It's difficult to find clear videos of Aqua, Terra and Ven. But I have almost finished animating her A attacks.

If you can help find clear videos that show of all of her moves, then i'll work quicker on her.

ok i will search

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Post Merge: December 10, 2012, 01:31:08 PM

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Here Are Already 2 Videos That You Maybe Can Use:

Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep - Aqua's Finishers - [Read Description] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPcryAOYdm0#)

KH Birth By Sleep : Aqua's All Styles & Some Commands [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzYdF4vDwrQ#ws)

idk how to do it in BB :(

i tried to do the same for riku but he had the same prob. as Roxas :P

But i can still release the SFX for Roxas, he just won't have the FS Voice :P

I already have those vids but thanks.

@xchosen, you can release the sfx pack. When I port Roxas, I'll send it to you insert the final smash voice.

Anyway, These are some of the lightning animations I've done. I've finished her A attacks already, can you imagine?

She's going to have paradigm shift where she switches between commando, ravager and maybe medic.

She's going to be able to switch from let's say attack s3s to attack 14 and so on. SHe'll be able to interrupt attacks and switch to another attack immediately.

(http://i.imgur.com/MvLWA.png)


Also watch the way the gun switches back to the sword.

I want a gunblade like Lightning's now... ;-; And the yellow parts on Lightning's armor look.......too bright.....they should goldenish or at least darker.

Also are you sticking to her orignal model? I would prefer her Dissidia model, but this one is ok.

That would be really cool to have her Paradigm shifts.... but what on Earth would be in her Medic x) all she could do is restore a tiny bit of health that wouldn't be much of a moveset XD

I haven't really thought much about the medic role yet. It will probably be useless anyway.

Chaosknight, I'm using only her ff13 models. I dont like the dissidia models at all. This model needs to be retextured though but that'll be later.

I think you should remove Medic since all it does is.........heal.....

Also  there was a dead thread about a Lightning PSA. Maybe you should take some ideas from it?
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=10384.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=10384.0)

Don't post in it since it's pretty much dead. >.>

Alright, i might also add extra SFX to one or all of the A smashes, but for now if anyone wants the Temp. Soundpack just PM me

I started making Roxas over Diddy Kong and I got all the specials working. But After adding the GFX, Roxas can't jump anymore. Maybe I've passed the pac file limit.

As for Lightning, I've actually finished animating her ground moves. She's ready to start PSA'ing which is good news.


I'm going to put her over Peach as she doesn't need a down special. I was also thinking Pikachu, but I don't know if he has porting issues.

I'm going to start a Vanitas moveset with bleachmagic. We do need more villians on the vault and we got Xemnas and Vanitas now coming.

Hmmm....

First pic looks like Razor Gale.

and second and third pics looks like Zantetsuken, but in the third pic, the blades are supposed to point the opposite direction.