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It looks like a decent project, i'll join, My favourite character from Brawl was Sonic, So i might make a PSA & textures for him.

Sweet! So... Could you tell me in a little more detailed way of exactly what you want to contribute to our project?  ;)

I would like to contribute animations textures, And PSA work to characters like Sonic and Pac-Man.

Sweet! Remember to upload them to BrawlVault, or at least give me the links to dropbox/mediafire. I'm thinking maybe Project Super Smash 4 should get its own dropbox that we can put everything in. What do you think?

Sure.

Okay, then. Project Smash 4 dropbox it is!
:kdance:

Update: I'm changing it to Google Drive. The e-mail is polkadotafros4@gmail.com (long story)

UN: Doqtor Kirby (obviously!)
I make previews and things. Not much else I can do right now.
Kirby and Jigglypuff FTW. One for me and one for my girl.
I'm free whenever I want to be free.

Okay! Can you be a playtester, too? There's almost NONE on the team...

Update: Oh, and Kirby's my favorite character, too! :laugh:
He's so cute!!!  :kdance:  :kdance:  :kdance:  :kdance:  :kdance:

Been thinking some really good improvements for Sonic.. How does faster homing attacks and making him more of a combo character sound?

Maybe, but we're using SSB Wiki for reference, so there have to be only changes that are legitimately made in the real SSB4. But I like it, keep up the good work!

I can be a play tester

I guess... Okay!

Oh ok, BTW, I would appreciate it if you checked out my project SSBX, Its kind of a mix between Melee and SSB4. Maybe we can help each other out in certain problems we run into.

Ok.

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I would like to help. I can make Samus and Zero Suit Samus textures. I'm good at animation switching (like PSAing and BrawlBox copy and paste stuff). Not much else really :p

i'll help out I can playtest and animate :) pm me if get a chance

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Post Merge: August 22, 2014, 05:47:18 PM

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i can also rigg too sorry for the double post ;D

mmk  fine by me

could I join? i can play test lol and animate and also rigg now that i've recently learned it lol ;D

Okay, I updated the Project. Now there's: :pikachu:, :yoshi:, :jiggly:, and :kirby:!

Charizard And MetaKnoght Please *u* ! ♡♥♡♥♡

Oh I can also do textures if you want

This looks really good, I'll download some!  :laugh:

Thanks for the Metaknight texture of Kirby. I didn't even know it existed! :D

i'm really excited to see how rosalina & luma turn out. (:

WHOOPS! I forgot Mewtwo and Roy on the WiiU Roster! I need to change that...

Still trying to find out everything I can about PSA. Also, BUMP.

 Pretty good time to start this. I can do models, textures, and CSPs if you'd like to have me on your team.

Username: Windhunter7
Skills: Texture Changing(Primarily Recolors), Screenshots, and Beta-Testing.
Favorite Character: Link and Zelda/Sheik(Zelda's my best, but I love playing as Sheik and
                 Link)
Free Time: Whenever(I'm usually on, but usually busy; times may vary for me, so an advance
                 heads-up would be a good idea if you want my help.)
:)

So I just read the wiki for this and I saw Greninja's page. Im amazed you guys ported him over Lucario. Can't wait to see more stuff happening :D

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Post Merge: August 30, 2014, 01:21:29 AM

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Oh! And I have a question: how do you plan on working the Miis?

user name:powerofthe17
skills: animator, play tester,psa and also riggier
favorite character:mewtwo,sonic, roy, ike, marth, and roy

free time: by any means when ever but i'm a sinor in high school so sometimes during the week i may not make progress

I plan on mainly just doing the "base" Miis shown on the Super Smash Bros. site.

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Post Merge: August 31, 2014, 12:49:33 PM

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Thanks so much! I'm glad I have you guys on the team!

Ive made a :sonic: texture that you can use if you want.

Sure! ...Why isn't it in your vault?

Oh yeah! I will upload it tommorow.  It will be called, Project Smash 4/SSBX Sonic.

yahoo so just pm me if you need me to make anything lol

This project looks decent, I would like to join.
I make recolors if you need some of them.
My favorite character is Roy
I'm everyday on this site..

Oh, I'll help too :)

The Greninja PSA you guys just released. How far done is that? So far, I can't tell any differences between Greninja and Lucario other than misc. animations.

:sonic: If you want, I can do textures for characters and test! :D :sonic:

cool geninja psa if you want me to play test i can then if you want me to work on hitboxes and animate greninja then i'm up for also any thing you want to assign me for instances like character animations or rigging? ;D  :af2: hint* hint*  :af2:

It has first 2 jabs, back aerial, all taunts, and 2 tilts: Forward, and Up.

Finished Sonic BTW.

I know. Its really cool! I'll add the download to the downloads list.

UPDATE: Wait a minute... I'M AN ADVANCED KITTEN!!!  :laugh:

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Post Merge: September 01, 2014, 06:48:05 PM

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I've added Dr. Mario as a download! Enjoy!

Username: SUPAHSAWNIK99
Skills: Textures, very little animation, CSPs, and Testing.
Favorite Character(s): SSB64: Kirby, Melee: Captain Falcon, Brawl: Sonic and Toon Link, SSB3DS/U: Mega Man and Greninja.
Free Time: Weekdays after 3pm, and weekends.

 ok so if you like i can work on little mac? or add combo enders since i added that to my little mac over marth psa :af2: :af2: :happy: :D :)

may i do pac-man?

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Post Merge: September 02, 2014, 05:23:34 PM

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or shulk?

can i be a play tester? please?
Favorite Characters: Mewtwo, greninja, Luigi, and metaknight
free time: practically every day

Hey, BTW,

Important note,


Search up Project Smash 4 on google, There is already a Project Smash 4, Wr have to rename this because i got called a lier and my entry was reported.

BTW, Can you add my Sonic to the downloads section? :3.

Sure!

so am i able to be a play tester?

Sure, I guess... Though an alpha version is coming out soon.
What can you do? I've made a sample of what you're supposed to comment if you want to join:
-Username
-Skills (Imports, Vertex, Textures, PSAs, Animating)
-Favorite Character (From SSB)
-Freetime (Day of the week, hours)

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Post Merge: September 04, 2014, 11:34:19 AM

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YES! Mario's Full Pack is done! It includes: The PSA for Project Super Smash 4 Mario, 6 Costumes, CSPs, BPs, CSI, and CSN! Isn't it great?!?
:mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario: :mario:

I can be a play tester, and I have some textures that you guys can use. :yay: PM Me if you need more details.

Username: SUPAHSAWNIK99
Skills: Texture, very little animation, CSPs, Stocks, Testing
Favorite Character: Sonic
Freetime: Weekdays after 4pm, and weekends

 :sonic:

can i be a play tester? please?
Favorite Characters: Mewtwo, greninja, Luigi, and metaknight
free time: practically every day
skills very little animation texture csp and modeling

This looks like a very amazing project. I wish there was really some way I could contribute and I'll see if I can. Although I've learned some stuff here and there involving textures, stages and PSAs. Im no expert and it's been a while. I'll do my best to relearn and maybe go further. If I can , maybe I'll be an asset to a great team and project! xD

Favorite Characters:                                                                                        Skills:
SSB (64) Pikachu / Mario                                                                                            Not Many xD
SSBM: Dr. Mario / Pikachu / Pichu (Cute xD) :kdance: / Sheik / Falco                                                             
SSBB: Pit / Pokemon Trainer / Lucario                                                               Freetime:
SSB WiiU/3DS: Greninja (So Far) / Pit /Shulk                                                                Almost everyday (Sorta)

Anyway love what you guys are doing. I'm rooting for you guys! and I hope I can manage this to possibly help. Keep up the great work!

Sure, you can join.
So, you know how to make textures? I'm gonna post some tutorials here:
http://project-super-smash-4.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorials (http://project-super-smash-4.wikia.com/wiki/Tutorials)

So that anyone can join and we can get as much help as possible. (Although I'm hoping we end up with 15 or less members.)

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To all who want to join: Do not say you want to "join" the project JUST so you can play the alpha demo. It isn't done yet and we have much to work on. Plus, we release things almost directly after they're done, so you're not really missing anything.

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Post Merge: September 05, 2014, 11:12:56 AM

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2 more characters confirmed! I'm confirming them right now to make things easier:
-Dark Pit
-Duck Hunt Dog

Yes, I said it! Both of those characters will have recolors and their own PSAs; They got confirmed a few days ago along with Ganondorf, R.O.B., Ness, and Bowser Jr. I'm adding them to the roster RIGHT NOW.

I didn't even know about the demo, lol :)
I just wanted to help out.
Btw, I'm guessing you already did the recolors for Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog, Ganondorf, R.O.B., Ness, and Bowser Jr., since you said they were being added to the roster "RIGHT NOW"? If not, may I do the recolors? :D

 Speaking of which

R.O.B. would probably be a good choice, in my opinion.

"Bowser Jr. in clown car over Lucas"

Quote from first post

Thanks.

Not yet- You can do the Dark Pit recolors.

And I meant added to the roster picture on the first post... Not actually making them.
I'm the only one who doesn't have boatloads of school piled on my desk.
So I'm the only one who's been working on it lately... That's why I put up that "Texturers/Importers Needed" thing.

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Post Merge: September 05, 2014, 04:01:39 PM

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P.S. I'll do the original Dark Pit color. (Unless you already started)
If you haven't started, I'll do the original color of Dark Pit.

No, I didn't start it; I'm doing recolors myself actually atm. ;D
Would you mind posting/mailing me the link to Dark Pit when you're done?

Sure. Though it's just gonna be a texture over Pit (for now)... I won't be done with it for a while, because I'd like to get some actual brawling in instead of just hacking... I need a break. (Even though I don't have nearly enough time to take one, it has to be 100% done by 12/31/2014)

*faints*

Why doesn't Kirby have proper Final Smash eyes? It takes like 2 minutes, if even, to make. That's just lazyness.

If you want this project to get far, then you gotta step up your quality. Don't half-ass things just to get it released fast.

If I'm reading this right, you guys are planning to make 60 models, textures, and PSAs all in 4 months?

That seems a bit...unrealistic? It takes time to make quality content.

60 months sounds more likely. That's why game development takes time.

This guy's right. I'm out. GLHF

Junior, you should listen to Scout; he knows what he's talking about.

 Well, there are a few things wrong here that I'd like to point out. Junior, that was a bit rude to do such a thing and this project does lack a certain amount of professionalism and the mods released need to be brushed up on. Now that everything above was stated, it's best to have a clean start. Textures alone will not produce much accuracy when it comes to this project and when it comes to actually releasing a final project by December, heck, November, it's not plausible. The idea is right, but the order is wrong and well apparently there have a few rules broken. I don't want to back out of this, but I suggest having more maturity about these things. Now, "Project Smash 4" projects never make it far due to either complaints of the time of starting or the "uselessness" of doing this. I'll continue to support this as long as it gets a little more tidy. This project can't be finished anyway because there is a lot of information missing about this game.

I was thinking this as well, To be 100% honest.

I like how people are expressing their opinions AFTER a mod speaks up.

No, Dont delete the thread! Its constructive criticism, All i said was that i doubt we will get this done in time, Maybe V1 at December.


Im abit disappointed.

Wow a bit of constructive criticism and you throw a tantrum.

The fact that you said you "hate" your enemies, is wrong.. Calm yourself down, Start again. Scout just gave Constructive Criticism to help us make it BETTER.

I apologize to all whom I've hurt, I'm younger than all you guys, and Wooflezz is right.
We should learn from my mistakes to make this project BETTER. It may not be out by December 31st, but that's perfectly fine. I still want to start a new thread for this, but this time, I hope I can act more mature, and we can make this a serious project, that can push the limits, and really use the new found potential it now has to make it an amazing project. This time (not sarcastically), thanks for all your support.

Now, this project will start anew, from a blank slate, from scratch; And we'll work hard to make this the best project ever, to make it as great and professional as the real thing...

I apologize again, let's start fresh.

I'm willing to sign up for the new beginning. Sign me up!

And who would want a replica mod instead of actually playing the "real thing" seeing as its less than a month away.

Wow well ill still join lol but yeah don't get down and also just be mature I'll still help you guys out also its because people don't have a wiiu u so those who don't have one would play this :)

And if they have a 3DS?, frankly this entire "project" is pointless but that's just my opinion no one has to agree with it.

Yes, thanks alot. I know. I'll start something as soon as I help my little brother hack. He doesn't know how yet. Thanks again for all your help... I love you guys.

I'm gonna start with Mario. But for now, I need to heavily edit the original post! We've got alot of work ahead of us, but I'm sure we can do it.

He's right because I was a member of the original project smash 4 there still coming along plus I can't spoil anything for now but yeah we as a team will be fine also here's an Idea for you if you want characters done faster have 3 people on one character and add 3 people to another or add 4 on each character :) because animator, recorlors, PSA, and gfx that will get things done faster and as of the ps4 there streaming up fast and professionally and a trailer is coming fast that's all I can say on that so either 2 things that are good to do :)

A: team up with them so we can get things done even faster and you and the other leader team up or

B: work on your own

 I still love to help you guys because I love helping people so IMO I think you should team up with project smash4 because then we have a in bigger team and the bigger the better and faster time we can develope a smash4 mod lol but it's your call and it's just my suggestion if you don't want to it's OK :)

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Post Merge: September 06, 2014, 11:00:49 AM

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By the way I said ps4 it stands for project smash 4 not playstion 4 lol

It makes sense even though techinaly they got the name but yeah if you want to and i f you do I think the progress we have and the progress we'll make together will be even more great! Please don't get upset though :) ik  it may seem bad but it's actually pretty good and like any the leader want's to get the mod done and make every fan happy with it so yeah it's pretty good but if you don't want to it's cool I'll still help out either way :)

 I know who is the one who created first the Smash 4 Project since I was working in that.. but, The project was cancelled.

Yeah we discussing that BTW way if we do combine who do you wanna work on? :)

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206050 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206050)
I can still work on something else

Yeah and that sucks but yeah like shulk or robin lol but yeah

powerofthe17, I need you to work on Link. Here are his colors:
Green, Red, Blue, Gold, White, Dark, Knight Academy uniform

SUPAHSAWNIK99, I need you to do Sonic's recolors, since SSBXReal did the original color;
All of his colors will be colors now, instead of just tints:
Red, Green, Yellow, Black (Based off shadow)
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Let me have some time to think about it. I'm working on the new PSS4 Mario right now, using the same PSA as before though, because nothing was wrong with it.

Hey, Can i do recolours for Sonic as well? I have plans for his recolours.

Shulk and Robin? Yeah of course. I would do some of those.
Did you just said the hack sucks?

You still want me to do Dark Pit's recolors after you're done making him, right? ;D

OK I can't do recolors though :)

 Love the progress and the fact that there was something to learn from this event. On another note, do we have a Sonic model to use? I mean, Brawl and Smash 4 have to completely different heads. Also, I suggest we complete a character's physical appearance before working on recolors. For example, Link, Luigi, Samus, Pikachu, and Sonic are some of the characters with heavy model changes ranging from Samus being the most to Luigi having slight changes. I have a Sonic we can combine out efforts on to make better already on the vault with a Super Sonic to boot and my unreleased slimmer Luigi can be used too.

Even though I'm not part of the team and new to (signing up) to the Vault, though I've come to respect and see the work of many, I don't find ANY project worthless. Sure the 3DS version and Wii U version may be the 'real' deal and maybe released before this project finishes. But as stated before Its a great way to experiment things and work as  a team. Besides it's not pointless this project still has me and probably other fans rooting for it. You guys can still do a great job and who's to say everyone will stop playing Brawl just because a newer version comes out? Why not be able to play both? This Project has worth if you alone think it does, act like it does and you work to make it have worth! Go KICK SOME ASHE!  :happy:

no I said that when the roy was reported that's what i meant by it sucks lol :)

Yeah, now we are good and btw add me again to the team.. hehe
Oh! lol.. Yeah got reported 3 times, but now its all fixed.

yup that's a relief but yeah i can't wait to rigg little mac too but first we need a modeler who can give him eyes and a mouth because previous models don't have that along with facial expressions so yeah :D

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Yeah, you can do sonic... Or you could do his PSA changes, here's a link to the moveset changes I have in mind: http://www.ssbwiki.com/Sonic_(SSB4)#Confirmed_information (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Sonic_(SSB4)#Confirmed_information)
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Oh well; Like I said in my PM, you work on DK.

"http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=70449.msg1298413#msg1298413"
And, speaking of merging projects, how about Project Super Smash 4 and Project Sm4sh Brawl merge; What do you say?
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Yes, and if anyone's having trouble finding models, try models resource. It's a great place.
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And, people keep on posting new things every single time I try to post and I have to change it. That's a little bit aggravating. But it's hilarious.

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Post Merge: September 06, 2014, 12:43:49 PM

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Okay, I added you to the team on original post again...
Wait... post merge? Wow... I thought that would never happen.
LOL.

I just want to edit Sonic's head so his mouth at the side, Or possibly import his Unleashed Apperance head.

oh sm4sh brawl for sure yeah we can merge it i'll try and see if i can give you my little mac psa there still some things wrong with it gonna need another psa maker and a person on hitboxes i'll do the rigging now all we need is a modeler thats can make faces for little mac and then i can rigg him :)

Ok!

and a person is working on a shulk psa i think you should check it out we can ask him if he would allow us to add his beta to the project :)

sweet, can i work on ike?

If you can do that that would be great and beautiful.

Actually, we need a Shulk PSA based off of his PSA in SSB4, not his attacks in Xenoblade.
Here's Shulk's moveset:
http://www.ssbwiki.com/Shulk_(SSB4) (http://www.ssbwiki.com/Shulk_(SSB4))

-Neutral Special [Monado Arts]: A moveset change, that changes his attributes, and offensive collisions.
-Side Special [Backslash]: A jumping strike that deals more damage when the opponent's back is facing him.
-Up Special [Airslash]: Similar to Marth's, except with 2 strikes instead of one.
-Down Special [Vision]: Same as Marth's, Ike's, Roy's, and Lucina's.

Ikr? :D I still play both normal Brawl and SSB64, in addition to the modded Brawl, and I was looking forward to the new one, on top of that; so no, you're not the only one interested, especially since I don't have a Wii U or 3DS and the SSBU looks awesome! ;D



I'm all for merging the two projects; you should PM the person of the other Smash Bros. 4 project and ask him if he wants to merge projects. ;D

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Post Merge: September 06, 2014, 01:27:49 PM

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Btw, I'm good at recolors(You can see my released work on my vault), if you need me to do other recolors, instead of just one character.
:af:

Okay. I just sent it. Can't wait to hear what he has to say.  ;)

Yay! I'm hoping he'll accept!
:af:

BTW, I have an idea,

Since you want Black Sonic to be Shadow. Why not just import Shadow over one of Sonic's costume?

Because it isn't supposed to be exactly Shadow, but a costume that resembles Shadow. Kind of like the one AIGeorgeRomo made. Except, ours will be WiiU styled.

Ok sure, I was just suggesting the idea, Wasnt really big on the idea.

no his is the ssb4 one here's the link : http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=58781.780 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=58781.780)

Work in Progress - IKE



(http://i.imgur.com/7iuSbZy.png)

are you making a smash4 ike?

yeah, that's the point for this mod, right?

Oh wow. You were right. I thought you were talking about a different Shulk PSA.


Nice! Remember, Ike is more muscular in SSB4 than he was in Brawl, think you can do that?

yeah or if we can get a model ripper for ripping models from game like fe readiant dawn that would be much of help :) but please model him as best as you can :)

I re-made Pikachu. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206067 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206067)

Would you like me to do the recolors?

Sure! I'll do the modified PSA when I have the time.

This thread has changed a lot since I left. Seems to be a lot more... organized. :)

However I still stand by my statement and I will not be returning to this project. Not because of poor organization (which was alleviated, and then some), but solely because I can't do anything very useful. I make menus, CSS's, and stuff, which isn't really part of this project.

I do wish this project the best of luck and textures. Maybe you'll get a CSP or two (or three! :D )

You got it! :sonic:


I can actually make them all based off of Sonic characters:
Red (Knuckles)
Yellow (Tails/Super Sonic)
Green (Jet the Hawk/ Scourge)
Black (Shadow/Dark Sonic (Sonic X Anime))

What colors did you want the Pikachu recolors to be? Also, did you want me to use the hat Pikachu models at all for the recolors?

Why did you removed My Greninja PSA?

Oh, because the Project got way weird and we fought and apparently I broke some rules again and blahblahblah, I'll give you the link tho: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ge35d4whvwjy58p/Project+Smash+4+-+Greninja+PSA+V1.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ge35d4whvwjy58p/Project+Smash+4+-+Greninja+PSA+V1.zip)

However, it won't be posted on Brawl Vault for a while until it's like, at least one special move done.

Please answer my question. :-\

 Your avatar, that Sonic looks familiar.

hey guys we have alot of work to do ahead of us new info on smash 4 and starting characters :)

quoted from loves smash on youtube his info is from the japanese smash4 event going on as of right now :)

ROBIN:
- Chrom appears in robins victory pose.
-Robin: His hair color changes, but not the model
-Robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

He has two swords, the magic and the non-magic one. (Forgive me, not an awakening veteran).
All of tilts are using the physical sword. They have good combo ability. All of his smashes use the magic sword, which has an electric effect.
When in the air, if you use the inputs for a smash attack (and you still have the magic sword available), you will do an aerial that uses the magic sword. If you just typically hit an aerial he will use the normal sword.
You use up your magic sword quite quickly but it regenerates rather fast so it's not like it ruins your tempo. Very fast.

The fire move we've seen is actually a fireball that comes from above robins head and rains down in the vicinity in front of robin. His neutral b shoots and electric lightnig bolt straight across the stage.
The healing move is his down b and you would be surprised to know it heals for a LOT (I healed for about 20%) and it stuns your opponent while you heal. It has a start up though so it's not as easy to land as any regular grab. I can see Robin being a PAIN IN THE * to people who can't avoid getting caught in it. Unsure if you can force break it from slapping buttons, I only played AS him.
His up b jumps up a bit and shoots wind slicers down. Important to note it's actually not straight up, he jumps jump and slides slightly to the side in the direction you're facing THEN shoots them down, so it can be a ground option too.

Marth feels very nerfed. His range seems even worse than in Brawl (I was whiffing fsmashes like crazy and I'm pretty good with tippers). Aside fr his range and no ability to double fair he seems mostly the same, aside from running faster. It's his range that REALLY feels kinda killer to His melee/brawl play style.
Tipper ing with Marth seems to require your opponent to be a lot closer than ever before, it seems he won't be as much of a spacing monster as he's always been.
This can't be overstated enough, his range feels significantly shorter (by significantly I mean that it's noticeable. It's all relative of course), and seems to be his most notable nerf. Spacing his tippers seems to Be considerably more skill-based due to the range needed.


SHULK
-Shulks standing a is a 3 hit combo
-Shulks up b is a TWO PART combo
-You can choose to do the second part by inputting b again
-Basically he swipes up like dolphin slash
-If you hit b again he will do a swipe in front of him and send the opponent flying
-His up smash is sort of like palutena, except a much smaller pillar of light coming from his monado
-I think his running dash attack is just a sword swipe. Don't quote me on that I didn't take it to memory (As I quote him anyway lol)
-Shulk lunges forward and swipes down with his forward b In to the ground
-When you press neutral b it changes the insignia. Can't change while rolling, unsure attacking
-His bair he shoves his sword behind him without even turning around like under his arm.
-Shulk has the underpants alt we all know about, rest are recolors
- Shulks second jump is a somersault. Feels funny. All his smash attacks have a strange millisecond-ish load-up time before they come out. The Monado powering up or whatever.
- Shulk has amazing spacing options because his Monado reaches so damn far

PAC-MAN:
- Pacmans costumes change his gloves and shoes
- Pacmans forward a is a combo like Marth except with punches
- his down aerial is like lucarios except he kicks like 2-3 times.
- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.
- Pacman. He feels slow, but his attacks felt like they had a good hitbox, because he's really fat and his legs stretch when he kicks. He just felt really interesting to play, but I ended up using his aerials the most because of their hit boxes.
-Pac-Man: His color doesn't change, but he wears accessories.

LINK:
-Link: Fierce Diety, White, Purple
- Fierce Diety Link confirmed (Face changes too)
- White tunic and Purple tunic confirmed
- His down air has less recovery frames, but doesn't have as much knockback.
- Boomerang throwing animation is more reminiscent of how it used to look in 64
- link has a costume with like red markings under his eyes. It looks nothing like link... But his eyes are whitened and has red markings and he's dark colored clothing. There's also a white and blue link.

CHARIZARD:
-Dark red charizard, Blue charizard
- Charizard can be purple, yellow, red, grey
- Charizard's up throw is seismic toss, similar to Kirby's throw.
-Charizard: Shiny Charizard

SAMUS/ZERO SUIT SAMUS:
- I made a mistake for the light blue costume of ZSS it's actually gray
-ZSS comes in dark blue, green, black, and red.

PIT:
-No dark pit costume.
-Pits side b fist has a bad lag if you whiff, big KO power if you hit at higher %s

CAPTAIN FALCON:
-Captain falcon still has his knee of justice but they made HUGE landing lag. His side b still does strike dmg (I'm sorry), I think I misinterpreted a guy next to me who was playing him say that. Shouldn't have said it without confirming myself
- Captain falcons uppercut (side B) doesn't do strike dmg anymore, only a grab his up b goes straight up

LITTLE MAC:
Little Mac has 16 costumes! He has 8 costumes for his fleshy self, and 8 costumes for his wireframe

PIKACHU:
- Pikachu: Gold/Silver's Trainer Hat, X/Y's Trainer hat, Party hat returns
- Glasses Pikachu confirmed
- Pikachu has a hat with sunglasses on the front costume, and a fighter headband (red and black colored I think).

LUCARIO:
- Lucario has a purple and green skin and dark grey skin. Rest are shades of blue.

KING DEDEDE:
- No Masked DDD alt

DIDDY KONG:
- Diddy kong only gets 1 banana. If you pull another It disappears

PEACH:
-Peach's forward B has BARELY any startup time anymore (the butt slam)
It felt REALLY FAST.
- Peach: Fire Peach color
- Peach's turnip pull speed is nerfed. She can still move in to float to do things like crown and nair. Her fsmash goes tennis club, golf club, and frying pan. I believe it's a set order now.
- Peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

FOX:
- Wolf deconfirmed
- Fox has an alternate skinThat looks exactly like wolf. He's gray fur, purple eye device and grayish clothing. It's the only skin that changes foxes fur. This is only a color, NOT a costume

ZELDA:
- Zelda has a white costume
-Zelda has no alternate costumes only colors
- Zelda's new phantom move: It doesn't hit a character right up in her grill. The phantom spawns maybe a character away, so if your opponent is right up on you, the phantom will just spawn in front of them and whiff.

META KNIGHT:
- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.
His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.
-Meta Knight: Dark Meta, Galacta Knight

SONIC:
- No Metal Sonic. Shades of Blue/One White skin
- Sonic still dies pitifully if you end up in a spin without a jump


MEGAMAN:
- Megaman has yellow
- megaman has a green/orange costume, and white/red costume, a blue and white costume

MARTH:
- Marth has an Orange Skin
- Marth double fair is not possible

TOON LINK:
-There is no island toon link costume.
- toon link has the four swords colors + old style link color, the black with red eyes.

LUCARIO:
- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

PALUTENA:
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.
- Palutena: Viridi color

OLIMAR:
- Olimar: Alph (full model change)

YOSHI:
- Black and purple Yoshi colors confirmed

IKE:
- Ike feels unchanged. I was never an Ike main so I don't know the specifics but his attacks were all the same general thing, nothing new I noticed.

VILLAGER:
- villagers up b is the most overpowered recovery I've ever seen.

SMASH MECHANICS/OTHERS:
-Back Ledge Grabbing is back
-Shield while running
-Fast falling is pretty swift. It also has the ash 64 effect sparkle when you do the input.
-There is no Melee dash dancing. It's incredibly hard to do with the circle pad but it's essentially the same thing as brawls. IE not super useful or practical.
- the ledge is DEFINITELY tougher to grab and there is no snap. Unfortunately both Marth and Shulk flip for their 2nd jump so I could not test ledge re-grabbing within a short window of time because it waits for their flip animation to finish before actually grabbing.
- The game still has a sense of floatiness to it that is present in brawl. It's definitely not like Melee where you drop like bricks.
- Shield rolling is extremely fast and there's a neat little sparkle star effect when you do it and acting out of shield is as well. I think of it like a mini-wave dash. No wave dashing or l-cancelling. Just rolling baby.
- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.
- whoever is worried about combos, there are combos.
- YOU CAN CANCEL RUN WITH SHEILD.
-I could no re-grab the ledge directly after letting go and jumping back in to obvious grab range.
- Pivot cancel is still in
- Lucina is not playable.(DEMO)

sorry for the long write :)

You could use spoilers. :P

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Do you think you could post pictures with text linking to each part of the character what color it should be for all of the recolors, so that I can know what I would be doing for the recolors? I'll post an example of what I mean in a couple minutes.

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Post Merge: September 06, 2014, 07:35:33 PM

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I mean like this, where the recolor would be yellow is now blue, his ears' black spots and cheeks' red spots are now green, and the brown spot on his tail is now brown.(This is just an example, not an actual thing I'm gonna do.)
(http://i.imgur.com/wA3fnTu.png)

I bet it does! I was using it as an alt. costume for Sonic in my pack, I did credit you for it.

Okay, windhunter7, his recolors are going to be almost identical to his Brawl Recolors:
-Original: Yellow, its normal appearance in Pokemon X & Y versions.
-Red: Slightly Orange, it wears a red cap.
-Green: More of a yellowgreen color, it'll wear a green bandanna.
-Blue: Exactly same as SSBB except with More clear and realistic-looking goggles.
-Pichu: A model-swap, Pichu from SSBM with one-slot size mod.
-Raichu: Another model-swap, Raichu from whatever game with a Smash 4 look.

Ok, ty; I'll start work on it soon. :)

Okay. I tried texturing Bowser, but it didn't turn out too well, his shell outline was too yellow, and his green wasn't bright enough.

What method did you use, and would you like tips?

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Post Merge: September 07, 2014, 03:44:54 PM

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While looking for Pichu and Raichu models, I found these:
Pichu (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27834) Would this model retextured to be SSB4-styled work?
Raichu (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=36283)Would this model and texture work? It looks like he'd fit well in.

I exported textures in BrawlBox and edited them in GIMP.
I usually just use the colorize tool to brighten them up.
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Sure, I'll start working on the Smash 4 styled Pichu and Raichu, and you work on Pikachu's red blue and green colors.

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Post Merge: September 07, 2014, 04:11:15 PM

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(http://i.imgur.com/ArxLlxV.png)
So? It's not big of a change, but that's mostly because not much change is needed.
What do you think? Is it more, or less Smash 4 styled than the original?

looks smash4sh :)

Thanks! Oh, did I tell anyone that Rockman refused? However we've been getting along so far.
I just recently reminded him Dr. Mario was in it after he told me the Young Link idea was scrapped due to Toon Link and him not being in Smash 4.

Oh, do I need to do anything to the Raichu? I need honest opinions...

In that case I will use the Wii U recolors I worked on with that Project that in this case is: Toon Link, Donkey Kong, and Sonic but, Sonic is already been worked on so I won't do Sonic.

Well actually no, it was more due to limitations, but whatever, it was a while ago. Anyway, I'm sure it would be best to wait for the Dr. Mario thing, it was just a leak and it may not be real. I'd hate if you ended up recreating something that was not intended to be in the game.

Ah, I see. That sucks and you're right... It would be bad if we recreate something that is not in the game

Actually, I think it's not a bad idea to remove Dr. Mario for now, but just until Dr. Mario is either 100% confirmed, or 100% disconfirmed. Even if he is disconfirmed, I still think we should at least include him in the Melee Version, along with Mewtwo and Roy.

Ok, then I'll work on those three. :)
Also, it does look more Sm4sh-styled, and for techniques for colorizing, did you try separating the texture into parts, coloring those parts, then pasting them back onto eachother? You can check out my tutorial here (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=68678) on how to do it with MS Paint and Google Sketchup. :)

Yeah, I make each color of the original texture a layer, and pick colors from the original picture from Smash Bros. official site, then colorize each layer to best match the ones from the CSP. Sometimes it takes a while, and sometimes it doesn't. And even sometimes, I throw in something of my own to make it unique. :)

that's pretty cool :)

Thanks. I think my Bowser didn't look good because he has too many model changes in the real Smash 4. Oh, I did Mario BTW. So someone can do his recolors if they want. But I'm done working for the night. Other than some random texture surprise that will blow everyone's mind because of how random it is. I'll start working on it right away.

If you tell me what colors for Mario, I'll do it if nobody else calls it, since I'm good at recolors. :D

 Since my Sonic already had been finished a while back and released, perhaps we could combine our efforts to give him side mouths and combine both Sonic textures since I assume you guys are using the Brawl model. My Sonic uses Brawl's body, eyes, and mouths with All-Stars Racing's head, ears and nose.

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Okay, so I've just checked the OP and saw that I was kicked off of the team. I was actually one of those who did not leave and stated that I will continue to be apart of the team as long as it will be cleaned up. If that is your decision, then I won't go against it. I'll still give permission to edit my Sonic.

Sorry, I forgot. I'll do that right now. :)
So, how's the Bowser Jr. coming along?

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Post Merge: September 08, 2014, 06:25:51 AM

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Okay, I added you.

And, decided not to post that "random surprise"

I'm working on Mario's recolours. Why hasn't anyone else posted anything today?

'Cause I didn't feel like posting anything till I was done with Pikachu's recolors; I'm only doing his blue, green, and red ones, since the others would require imports/vertexes, but I'm about halfway done or so, I think. ;D

Im 100% up for this.

Actually, I never meant to kick him off...
It was accidental, because I deleted everyone from the team because I was originally going to disband the project, but later came to my senses and didn't...

Ok, So I finished the green, red, and blue Pikachu skins, and sent them to Junior64570. Now I'm gonna work on Luigi. ;D

 It's alright, no sweat. As for progress on Bjr, his model is completely done. However, he will come with his own Fitmotion as we are doing PSA's. We should let him keep his NSMBW bones and edit Lucas's bones to fit the machine. So BJr cpuld be animated as well. Yes, this will require us to edit most to all of Lucas's animations so BJr can respond to them.

Sounds great! So, I just watched a livestream of someone playing the new Smash Bros. for 3ds in Japan, which apparently got released a day early in one of the stores. Turns out Bowser Jr. CANNOT fly with his clown car, he's on the ground. He has 8 costumes, 1 of Bowser Jr., and the 7 Koopalings as alternates. So far a got a few details on the moveset, but SSB wiki is probably on the right page right now:
Neutral B: Cannon Ball, a cannon pops out of the clown car and shoots. It's a very strong move, but I don't know how much damage it does.
Dash Attack: Tilts a little backwards, moving forward, and the spin thingy on the bottom goes in rapid mode, spinning and cutting everything in path.
???: Jumps out of the clown car, it explodes, and a new one generates back. I'm guessing Down B.

Also, it turns out Dr. Mario truly IS confirmed, along with the others that were anticipated:
Falco, R.O.B., Ness, Dr. Mario, Duckhunt Dog, Dark Pit, are all in it. And, Mii Fighters is on one-slot. There may still be 4 more characters yet to be revealed, but it's highly unlikely, due to no one saying anything about them.

yeah there are 4 slots left lol so people are still hunting for more characters! XD

 Sorry fellas. It's been confirmed that this was everyone...for now. I believe that they may have DLC like with MK8.

So I finished the 00 Luigi skin, and here is a screenshot, as well as screenshots of the three Pikachu recolors I did.(In case you didn't see them yet.)
(http://i.imgur.com/6WoTQrh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CKbyKKh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/E1hexrE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/KJouKCi.jpg)

Love the Luigi Skin, Looks like a mix between SSB4 & Melee.

On another note, Can i work on Dr.Mario?

Why, thank you for the compliment, kind sir! :D I did try my best to have him look like SSBU Luigi. :)
(I even changed his eyebrow and mustache colors. ;) )

That's awesome, windhunter7! I might edit the skin a bit though. Did you base your Luigi off of the CSP? That's what I do. :D
EDIT: Might also import the Mario Party 9 Overalls, like I did for the Mario. You did awesome on the hat!

P.S. No, SSBXReal, sorry. I like Dr. Mario and I already have one done :D You can do the recolors if you want though. But I won't be on for a while. You guys can start PSA editing though. :D

Yes, I did base it off of the CSP! :D
I couldn't really add texture to the skin, though, so all I could do was change the color of it to match the CSP. Would you like to change the skin textures, and then send the changes to me, before I do the recolors?

Ok! I'll do the edited PSA, too. Since I really like coding with PSA. :D

Also, why is the inside of the blue goggles blue?

Aww.. I have even made a Pill Final Smash, Guess i can use it for X.

Because I based the goggle recolors off of the CSP that was leaked, which shows goggles in that color. Besides which, it looks cool. :)

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Post Merge: September 12, 2014, 10:57:33 AM

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I think I'll actually do the recolors first, and since the skin would be the same on all the recolors, you can add the skin texture afterwards. :)

Ok.

 Love the Pikachu, he was done well. If we want more accuracy, we should import the model from PokePark and texture that or collab with KTH. His model should be updated. Whoa, that Luigi looks pretty good. Best feature are the jumpers. May I suggest darkening the clothes a little and give them a bit more saturation. The detail in the jumpers is really neat.


 I vertexed the brawl Luigi to Look  more like the slimmer Smash 4 design. You can put your textures over him after you are finished.

Reworking my Meta Knight Kirby, and I can do all the Kirby colours if you want

Wooflezz, are you gonna do Marth with Roy's clothes?
Those look amazing btw

(http://i.imgur.com/LpWrmDb.png)
An in game pic, since brawlbox isn't always the best way to see what things look like

Yes, I will! and Thanks! Kirby looks awesome too!

Darkening the clothes would make him look less like SSBU Luigi, since those colors are directly from the CSP. As for saturation, I don't know what that is. And I appreciate the offer, and feel free to do that(To put the textures on the vertexed hack.), but I'm too lazy to export all those textures, then import them onto that model. :-\

Can i help?
Name:Mariovslink2 or TheepicMVSL2
Skills:Recolors or Alt Costumes,
Favorite characters:Fox and Toon Link
Im free saturdays and sundays
Im learning how to do animations too, but im not a expert

Sure! I've been looking forward to someone joining. :D

UPDATE: I just went to GameStop and bought a new 2-GB SD card, since I lost my old one. :D I'll be hacking really, REALLY soon, and maybe even posting a few things on my Vault!

Looks like I'm rejoining

-Your Username
Boobsey
-Your Skills
Textures, Glitch Finding, model ripping
-Your Favorite SSB Character
Pac-Man
-Time when you're free
Whenever, just hollar

Im just going to make recolors, or textures too?

Actually, whichever I assign you to. So, yes, both. :)

Okay, re-adding you to the team right now. ;)

BTW, Are you going to edit All Star Mode/Adventure into a Smash Run kinda thing?

Umm, if possible, yes!

I think you can edit target test to make it look like smash run

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Post Merge: September 14, 2014, 01:04:21 PM

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Hey, i made a Wii u texture for Fox, i will put ingame previews soon   ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/bQtyWqO.png)

Wow, nice! I could never do that having fox with so many texture parts, but you really made it look like the real thing! :) Keep up the good work! If you wanna do more textures of Fox, here's something to base them off of:
(http://i.imgur.com/AX5ePlc.png)
(Source: Crackin355 at imgur)

P.S. Wooflezz already did the 8th color.

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Post Merge: September 14, 2014, 04:52:47 PM

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P.S.S. Did you base it off of the CSP image? That's how I do mine.

CSP and ingame Wii U pictures

Cool. :)

(Pic Heavy)

Well, I took the time to combine me and ShadowLuigi_NG's textures to make this magical thing.

Nice Job! Except, for the final version of Dr. Mario's Final Smash, it needs to be 2 pills circling each other and moving at the same time, like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvj9eWNuJkE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvj9eWNuJkE)
Skip to 0:34 to see it.
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...But no one said this was the final version. Keep up the good work!

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Post Merge: September 15, 2014, 08:14:31 AM

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How do I add a poll to this topic? I tried making one, but at the top it said "Post new topic", even though it showed the poll things (question, option 1, etc.)

It should be at the bottom. :)

Yeah, It was going to be alot like Dr Mario's FS in game, I'll try my best to make it diffferent.

Here are some screenshots of the Luigi recolors I did:

Okay, I posted a new poll!

Question: Who should we work on first?
Option 1: Newcomers
Option 2: Veterans

And soon, there'll be a pic of the day! (Maybe)

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Post Merge: September 15, 2014, 01:17:35 PM

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Actually, I think Sonic's face, ears, arms, and chest need to have a little more saturation. No offense.

Oh, and so far we have 50% 50% on our new poll. Newcomers, or veterans? I voted newcomers. :)

Nah its fine. Ill do that the now.

welp just gonna leave this here ahh! cough cough!

(http://i.imgur.com/2VkDyP4.gif)(http://i.imgur.com/kePEmGm.gif)

yup cough cough wait1 animation coughhhhhh!!!!

BOOM!

Nice animations! BTW powerofthe17, Have you started on my Young Link Model?

Finished all of Fox recolors http://imgur.com/a/ptCpg#0 (http://imgur.com/a/ptCpg#0)

Nice! :D

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206280 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206280)

Hey, if you don't mind, I'd love to help you out. I can make recolors, and I'm learning modeling & animating. Whaddya say? :)

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Post Merge: September 16, 2014, 05:11:09 PM

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And also, do you plan on adding on to the roster using BrawlEX? Or are you replacing some of the original roster? Thanks. :D

can i take your Mario and add better textures and recolors to it Junior64570?

If he decides that you may, feel free to use any of my Luigi textures here (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206263) for that, including the recolors. :)

yes I have I have his body and kegs a head done all I need to do is his arms sword shield and sheath :D :)

If you going to put ssb4 music to the Project, there is a Playlist with the soundtrack of Super Smash Bros for 3ds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1x7L0lGRU&list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK&index=94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1x7L0lGRU&list=PL0YN3mEp0MJPH9AsLfRf0LlYkdqB7WprK&index=94)

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Im trying to do the Master Core Final Destination background
(Yes, Pac Man it's a Mario clone) :af:
(http://i.imgur.com/Se0hmbG.png)

Sure! We could use some more help. :)
And yes, we're using BrawlEx for everything, and not replacing/deleting any of the original characters, whether they're included in SSB4 or not. (Ice Climbers, Snake, Ivysaur, etc.)


Nice job! I've always liked that background. ;)
Remember to put that background on the single-player FD, not the multiplayer one. I've heard boundary lines are different, so that means there have to be 2 FDs implemented in SSBB; One for multiplayer, and one for singleplayer.
 :)


Actually, I'm doing Mario already, but you can do recolors for Fox!
Also, I knew about that model for a while. It's even the one we're using for the PSA, If we can't get a model from SSB4 rom that Boobsey has.
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And, if anyone knows how to edit articles (FE Mario's Fireball), please tell me how! ;)

Alright! Thanks! Is there anything you need me to do now?

Well, what do you want to do?

Whatever you need me to do. For example, I could try making PSAs for Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, and such, and I could make recolors also.

yup ah gonna leave the better version cough cough ahem! XD

(http://i.imgur.com/CqdaV5n.gif)

Do you take additional characters to be added? If so, I have a list of who I want to see:

Definites: Sora, Kairi, Shiro, Tails, Roll, Wreck-it Ralph, Wonder Red, Spider-Man, Princess Twilight Sparkle, Hinata Hyuga (via Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm 3), Heihachi [due to Tekken Tag Tournament Wii U] and Pyrrha
Maybes (from Playstation All-Stars Battle Royal): Sly Cooper, Ratchet, Jak & Daxter, Parappa, Sweet Tooth, Kratos, Cole MacGrath, Evil Cole MacGrath, Dante, Big Daddy, Spike, Fat Princess, Isaac Clarke and Kat (Gravity Rush)

Heh, looks amazing, so far.
Thank you for taking out Rob, sir.
Will Dark Pit have his own Voice package?
Will they all have their own Voice Packcage?

I'd like to help, I can do Texturing and animation swapping..
But only on a good day, when I am not feeling iffy...

Sorry, only characters that are in SSB4, and Mewtwo and Roy because of P:M.

Well, you could do Yoshi's recolors. (Remember, the egg's colors change with Yoshi now)
:) Or, if you feel like doing someone else, just tell me. :)

OK. And did I really forget R.O.B.? He's in the new one...
Well, if you're not feeling iffy, you can do textures of one of the FE characters,
or you could do Ness.

Well, maybe- just maybe if Tails and Wonder Red were confirmed as DLC characters for SSB4, would you change your mind about those two?

Why not just request those on the Model/Texture/Vertex Requests boards? They don't necessarily have to be in a pack/project, and you can always make your own project with them as characters.

New poll! It's about the alloys, and the mii fighters. :)

I'm working on the Yoshi colors now. Would you like me to make some animations where Yoshi is standing up straight, like in Smash 4?

Do you need any help with the soundtrack? That's really the only thing I'm good at other than ideas and playtesting. PS Cool project

Well, if you want to, sure. :)
Let me know when you're done, either PM me or post it right here.

I don't know how to do soundtracks or anything, so you can do them. :)
P.S. Thanks for saying it's a cool project. :)

Working on Little Mac! editing textures to make it like wii u
 (http://i.imgur.com/EtVDvg4.png)

Nice! :D

P.S. I'm working on Kirby and Mr. Game & Watch right now, and I've done most of the work on them so far, but I'm doing 2 other texture requests that I'm doing as well, and I'm doing all of them at the same time for efficiency, so...
As soon as frozenfire responds to me with the Ghirahim CSP, I can do the coloring itself for all of the textures(The fast and easy part), then import them to the models, so it shouldn't take too long until I'm done.

EDIT: I forgot to say, it's not that I can't find concept art or render Ghirahim for the CSP, it's that frozenfire already has a specific one in mind that he wants me to use.

i have an idea for the extra alloy you guys can make your own custom mii fighter for it.

Edit: or maybe a mii fighter that is a fusion of the other 3 mii fighters

You know what we need? I remember seeing a post KTH made, He said that there should be some kind of extension that would let you customize a mii fighter, Its the only idea i can see working for Miis,

Sadly, its not possible yet.

Will Melee veterans like Pichu and Mewtwo return? Will the cut characters return? Will Mr. Game and Watch have his new design and animations? Will there be new stages that don't replace the older ones? Will Dixie Kong be in?

I don't know about the others, but I can tell you that Mr.  Game & Watch will have his new colors, as I am working on him, and he should have his new PSA, since Junior said he's working on that. And Mewtwo should also be in, but not Pichu, as he wasn't in Project M(See OP), nor Dixie Kong, since she isn't even in Super Smash Bros. series.

Little Mac progress
(http://i.imgur.com/Q0CTmXe.png)  :happy:

:af:

hey my little mac psa is almost complete i need someone to record and also i need some help on gfx and hiboxes then i should import the 1 hit ko meter then i'll be finished! :D :) :af2:

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hey could you give facial expressions to and are gonna rig him over marth because if not i'll just rigg him over marth for my psa then he'll be finished for this mod and the one hit ko meter is possible just hard to code :( but it'll be in :)

(http://i.imgur.com/RsvNtNB.jpg)
The advantages of having the rom
Should I continue?


Also if I do continue I'm going to put the newcomers over random chars(Bowser Jr over Lucas, Pac-Man over snake, ect) or just put them in a zip file

ok sounds cool also when will we get a build? :P

Nice job! :D


Nice job on the CSPs!
Oh, and btw, on the ssb4textures.rar you gave me, in a certain folder where CSIs and stuff for the Roster are included, I saw some things that really caught my eye... a next button, and a back button. DLC CONFIRMED!!!
:af:
Also, how close are you to finding the models?
(Awesome new avatar. KIRBY FOR THE WIN! :kdance: :kirby:)

And powerofthe17, we'll get a build really soon, but when we release an alpha to the public, that won't be until we have several PSAs.
Didn't you say you were almost done with the Little Mac PSA? That's awesome. :)
I'll be making quite a few changes once the 3DS full version comes out, making it more like the actual PSA. Mainly just editing hitboxes to be the same as SSB4. ;)

Keep up the good work though, guys! :)
Except, don't work on too many things, I wanna do a few PSAs myself. :)

Here are some assignments though:
Boobsey

windhunter7

powerofthe17

TheepicMVSL2

Junior64570

And everyone, if you haven't, try reading Brawl in the Family here:
brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com
They're hilarious!!!
Plus, if you're tired, it'll give you something to do for a break. :)

OK, thanks! I'll get right to making a soundtrack. Just a few questions before I start though. 1. Do I have a data limit? Soundtracks are usually the larger files. 2. Only Nintendo OSTs or should I use remixes too? (OC ReMIX, GaMetal, etc) 3. Were any stages altered?

Junior64570

Done and done

(still looking through rom)

Ok.

Nice!

Well, I'm gonna work on a LOT of things, and release them like crazy. I just played a little bit more of the demo, and I love it so much, I feel a surge of creativity and energy going through me! I'll do LOTS of characters, based on their CSPs:

If anyone wants to do some of these, just tell me. (In a PM, so the pop-up thing will happen)
Also, am I the only one who thinks Project M is hiding something? I feel like their mewtwo has WAY more than just EDITED ARTICLES. And, what about P:M Lucario? They made his aura sphere able to be bigger, move slower, and even zigzag...

Sorry I haven't been on in a while, I'm busy with school and working on finishing my own personal project, I'll get to work on those sonic textures. Now! Again, I'm super sorry!!

I need more assignments give me more! Hehe, so I can actually help more :3

I'm not Junior, but you could try doing smash 4's Fierce Deity Link:
(http://i.imgur.com/NKfen5r.png)
Higher Quality (http://i.imgur.com/jCPue8K.png)

my bad :( i'm on there team as well but i'll leave everything private for you guys ok :)

now that thats done i've made more progress on little mac and also i'll only show junior the progres because i guys i need things to be private lol :( but yeah it's all god :) just gotta bulk down a bit lol

Not trying to be rude but I think you missed my previous post

All right, I am working on Sonic's textures right now. I might have them done by the end of today, or early tomorrow. Once I'm done, I'll send Junior a download link, with CSPs, textures, and Stock Icons! :D :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

Oh yeah, for Olimar, we can remove his name on the CSS and put it on his CSP, so when you pick Alph it says Alph on the CSS

I was thinking of doing that with some of the aly chars in the CSS, but I'm sure we could just have it say "Alph" when he's selected.

I'm confused, isn't that what I just said?

Have the actual text say "Alph" instead of having it part of the CSP



Have some prgress on the CSPs while I'm here (http://imgur.com/a/klNdV)

You can do that? Is it a code or part of brawlex? I was completely unaware there was a different way of changing the text.

I've seen it

I have one question about those CSPs: Why on earth is Dr. Mario over the Pokemon Trainer?

In project m, mewtwo is there. It's just easier to replace his CSPs.

It's just for testing, I'm gonna release them all as a zip with the images

Ahh, Okay! I just thought it was weird that Dr. Mario was over the Pokemon Trainer instead of regular Mario. :P

oh. Well, I was wrong.

You can do Zelda. :) Remember, these are the Smash 4 colors; Not just more vibrant textures for brawl! ;) Can't wait to see how they turn out.


Ok. However we ARE replacing PKMN Trainer's CSP with Mewtwo's. ;)
Oh, and, I'm all done with the character select icons! ;D
Here's previews:
http://imgur.com/a/AcSoR#0 (http://imgur.com/a/AcSoR#0)
I might do the cut characters/mewtwo and roy tomorrow, depending on who knows what.
Also, I feel like doing some easy characters to texture and make recolors for, mainly charizard. So, that's what I'm gonna do right now. :)

Looks great Junior.
CSPs should be done by tomorrow. I guess we'll use Brawls for the cut chars(Lucas, Snake ect.)
Also I might do Smash 4's menu buttons after this, who knows

Ooohhh!! Nice! Can I use some of them for my Project?? I'll be sure to credit you for them!!

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All right! The Sonic textures are done! Who should I do next? I'm on a roll!!!  :sonic:

Could we see a preview of em?
I'd like to see em since I'm doing CSPs and all

Junior, please look through my posts, I had a question and it remains unanswered.

All right, How about I just give you the download link, Boobsey?

sure thing, just PM me

Cool! Sure, you can use them. And I'm glad you're done with Sonic, that didn't take long at all. I might post it if I can get some in-game pictures! :D Also, I love it!
I'll be sure to collab you; And, maybe tomorrow I'll do the Sonic PSA since you already did all 8 textures. :)
And, I'll collab you too, Boobsey. For making the CSPs!

Oh, so sorry! I'll check back again, and answer them. So sorry!

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All you need to do is make the "Olimar" text completely black, and put the name (Font: Cambria Bold, color: white, size, usually 31) on top of the CSP where it would normally appear. ;)
It's not that hard.

I was actually referring to the question about music, lol.

ok little mac's side b inserted and it's now working now onto his up b and fixing up his counter :)

Oh cause I'm almost done, only a few more left

Is there any more characters that are in need of texture making, or can I work on my project?

http://imgur.com/a/27hI3 (http://imgur.com/a/27hI3)
Have some more progress

Thanks! Nice!


Awesome! Keep up the good work!


"OK, thanks! I'll get right to making a soundtrack. Just a few questions before I start though. 1. Do I have a data limit? Soundtracks are usually the larger files. 2. Only Nintendo OSTs or should I use remixes too? (OC ReMIX, GaMetal, etc) 3. Were any stages altered?"
Oh, stages WILL be altered, but I don't know anything about music, never done a music hack before. :P However, as long as it works, and it's from SSB4, go ahead!! :)


And yes, you can look on your own project. :)
And BTW, you forgot to change the bracelet colors for the Sonic recolors you made. Can you do that? After that, I'll make a PSA for him and post it. :) (But of course, it's perfectly OK.)

Nice! Looking good!


Also, I have every single stock Icon for anyone who needs them! :D

And, i don't think I can... sorry :/

Only SSB4 OSTs? Got it. I'll get that going.

Here they all are! Every last Stock Icon!!! And, I it took a long time for them all to be sorted by character! You're all welcome to use them! I didn't put in Sonic's because they were already in the pack I made for Sonic's alts.!

Download here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/7bkfwvwb6vp7uom/Project+Super+Smash+4+Stock+icons.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/7bkfwvwb6vp7uom/Project+Super+Smash+4+Stock+icons.zip)

6 more recolors to finish Little Mac!
(http://i.imgur.com/Iwq6soO.png)

Can i do the Sonic PSA as well?

OK, thanks to TheDarkMysteryMan, I now have every Smash4 song ready to go! Victory Fanfare, Menus, you name it - I've got it! Of course, now I need to decide what goes where...
Also, an idea for Omega stages. Use the stage roster expansion. Page 1 would be normal stages, while page two would be Omega stages. If we decide to use Omega stages, anyway.

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Oh yes, the filesize for every SSB43DS song is about 872MB.

are you gonna do the salt too? :)

About to release all of the CSPs!
Funnily enough though, brawls CSPs are 128x160, but it only shows a 128x128 square in the CSS

Ohh! Boobsey! Could you make a couple of Smash 4 styled CSPs for some of my textures? That'd be awesome if you did! :D

Guys, have you seen Smash 3's Sonic? ITS BEAUTIFUL.

I have. It looks really good!  :o

And Released! (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206349)
Here you guys go

Those look awesome!

Does anybody here want to help me with my Project? I'm in need of an advanced model maker, as well as a great texture maker, and a good PSA maker. If anybody could help me out, please PM me ASAP.

Hi guys, again.

Thanks so much! I'll make sure to collab you on every single thing we release now, as you did all the CSPs. :D

And SSBXReal, I had already claimed Sonic's PSA... Sorry... :P You can do some extra sonic texture alternates if you'd like, though!

After lunch, I might do Mario, Link, and Pikachu, since they're in the demo and I have some official things to base them off of. :) The full version is coming out in around 13 days! And once I buy the game, I'll have lots of work to do. :)

And SUPAHSAWNIK99, I could help you with your project, but I'm really hungry. Maybe later. :)

TheepicMVSL2's little mac recolors are cool, I can't wait to see how they've turned out.
But whatever happened to Ike?

Once the game comes out, I don't think many people are gonna be on this site anymore... but, Junior, PM me what skills you have, and I'll get to it ASAP.

Btw, I've been working on Mr. Game & Watch's and Kirby's textures, and the textures are almost done; attaching them to the model and getting in-game pictures I should be able to finish by tomorrow.

That's okay... But the whole point of this project is for people who don't have/can't have the new Smash Bros. can play with all the new features. ;)

What do you mean "attach them to the models"? Don't you just have to open up BrawlBox and CTRL+R on each of the textures? That's what I do. BTW, I'm re-doing my Mario soon. I'm going to make the overalls from scratch; And constantly compare it to my 3DS Demo until I get it right. I don't want to have to post it a 4th or 5th time. ;D
Are you doing 8 colors for them? Each character is going to have 8 colors. And now, thanks to ShinF's awesome tutorial, I know how! :) (Thanks, ShinF!)
So, anyways, I'm going to work on Charizard now. Wish me luck. ;)

That is what I meant by "attach them to the models"; and yes, I'm doing all 8 colors; though, with Mr. Game & Watch having all of his colors inside the one .pac/.pcs, and me not sure how to add colors, I'll have the 2 colors that are new in SSB4(The tealish and white ones) as 4 texture files(The Main colors and the rim colors), with a text document describing the RGB values for easy input, so that modders, if they want to replace a specific color, can do that easily. :)

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P.S. Good luck. ;)

Thanks for the luck. :)
But I bet we can find a code for making Mr. Game & Watch load from more than 1 file.
And, I know how to add costumes, so once we find that kind of code (or, if I can learn, MAKE that kind of code), then we'll be good.

That's a good idea for the project, but when releasing the textures on the BrawlVault for modders to be able to ordinarily use, not everyone has BrawlEx or anything like that, so it would be helpful to some people. :)

Can i atleast do work on the PSA? I signed up to do that

I'm pretty sure this is where the thread should go... ( If not, I'll use the chatter one :) )
But here are all of the poll's results, from all the polls our project has ever had!

RED: The option lost
ORANGE: The option was tied with another, but there was a third/fourth factor that ruled them all.
YELLOW: The option was tied with another, but Junior64570 decided to do a different one
LIME GREEN: The option won

Q: The latest question wasn't recorded, sorry, it wasn't nearly important anyway.
However, I WILL be posting/uploading/making things for Project Super Smash 4 more often, and WILL stop being lazy.  :)

Q: If Nintendo adds DLC characters, which one do you think we should add?

Q: How should we add Mii Fighters on top of the alloys?

Q: How should we include Project: M's alternate costumes in the Melee Version?

Q: Which newcomer do you think we should work on first?

Q: Who should we work on first? Newcomers, or Veterans?
NOTE: Though "Newcomers" won, this is the order we're going to do the characters:
SECOND NOTE: We did Luigi first because we felt like it. However, Luigi won't become a full version of the PSA until after October 3rd, 2014.

Ok, go ahead!

Bowser has a new victory theme, but I don't think I can apply it without altering the other Mario characters themes. I'll try to find a way to alter it, but he may have to just keep his Brawl one.

There is a code to give Bowser a seperate victory theme from Mario, Luigi, and Peach. I don't know where to find it, but I will tell you when I find it.

Okay, good! I'll compile an sc_selcharacter.pac for the Project. It'll have everything, and we can use it for the private demo (which is going to be done really soon!). I wonder if powerofthe17 will send me his Little Mac PSA... I need to test it. ;)

We're going to have a LOT of codes in our codeset, I hope we can find/create the ones we need. (And, maybe recruit a coder to be on our team!) So, expect a demo sometime within the next few days! (I'm not guaranteeing anything)

I can't wait till this project is done,cause I don't have a wii u but i have a 3ds,BTW if u guys don't have a sonic model/textures u can ask this guy if you can use his if u want http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=34463 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=34463)  :)

I just got done with them. Sorry.

Oh okay, perfect, let me know if you have any luck

Its cool,can't wait to see your sonic :)

Wait, so you fixed the bracelets? :)

Oh yeah, so the new characters are BrawlEX'd right? Would you like the new character's victory themes?

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Also, it's kinda awkward that Brawl has so many more tracks than Sm4sh currently has. Should I just focus on a few stages or spread it around a bit?

No, I did not. I'm sorry, but I said I wouldn't make them EXACTLY like their Smash 4 counterparts.

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http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=31273.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=31273.0) Found it! You're welcome! :D

Yes, sure! Thanks alot for helping out.
Oh! I never added you to the team! :D
Welcome!
Also, would you mind filling out our registration thing?
-Username
-Skills
-Favorite Character
-Freetime

And, I never filled that out; So for some of you who would like to know:
-Junior64570
-Texturing, Animating, PSAs, CSPs, Preview Cards
-Melee:  :kirby: :yoshi: | Brawl:  :mario: :pikachu: :falco: :sonic: | Project M:  :mewtwo: :roy: | S4 demo:  :link:
-Usually everyday, after my school's done, but I don't have many subjects of School;
Also, I'm free on weekends all day.
 :laugh:

Also, I updated the roster.
P.S. Spread it around a bit.
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Still, they should be as much like their Smash 4 counterparts as possible, that's what this project is. ;)

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I got a new avatar! :)

- Pikmin1211
- Music replacement, ideas, file replacement
- Mario, Olimar
- About 5 hours on weekends, weekdays it's 2

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Nice, but I have no idea what he's talking about for the individual ones.
"I discovered a new way to make the custom victory theme code individual and not effect any other characters. You just add the original theme id's in the game and replace them with the custom one's in the code. Now you dont have to add every character a victory theme you can choose any character you choose."
What is that supposed to mean? I have no idea.

I honestly didn't know, either. Maybe I can see if I can find a different explanation??

I figured it out, nvm. Still a pain in the arse though.

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And... done. Should work. I have the code as a txt and Bowser's new victory song. Do we already have the RSBE code? If not, we need that too.
I'm also done the soundtrack. Well, sort of. I don't know what to do with music from Xenoblade, Punch Out, etc. Any ideas?

Maybe we can use the Stage Expansion for some of the new stages?

We could also do that thing I said earlier abut Omega stages.

Well, lets see how many stages there are in the 3DS version ( excluding Omega Forms)

Smash 3ds has 29 stages

Ok, how much does Brawl have?

Brawl has 41

Okay. Remember, we have to add the WiiU ones, too. ;)
I forgot to work on Charizard, so I'll make sure I do that now by doing it now.

Yoshi is close to completion! I just need to finish up some animations, and he'll be done.

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Also, what should I work on when Yoshi is done?

Little Mac over Marth? oh...
(http://i.imgur.com/z27Bsw4.png)

Lol. X D
Good luck on porting it. ;)
I'm working on Charizard's preset, (the XCF file I base the textures off of),
and I'm VERY close to being done! :laugh:
...On the first texture file, that is. :P
So, Charizard will fire it up soon!

that's throne I have lol :D but yeah just a little update had to do some I nation fixes in game I also have to add his other animation then code specials and his ko meter which is posble now :D

Here are all the stages we know are on Wii U: Battlefield, Final Destination, Boxing Ring, Mushroom Kingdom U (transforming stage), Skyloft (similar to Delfino Plaza), Halberd, Pyroshpere, Wily Castle, Pac-Land, Windy Hill Zone, Garu Plain, Castle Siege, Coliseum, Wii Fit Studio, Town and City, Pilotwings, Mario Galaxy, Garden of Hope, Palutena's Temple, And a stage based off the Kalos Pokemon League.

Cool.

Alright, here is an important message: I am not going to be here all week. I'm going to be at school, and I'm going on a trip this weekend, so do not expect to hear from me until Sunday. SUPAHSAWNIK99, out. Peace!

Some of those are also on 3ds so

I need to put Little mac model over marth? i don't know how to do that... but i will try anyway

lol if you know how to rig then you can do it other wise idk how you could port it? unless  using a .rel I think but yeah so far i'm 69% done for now :)

Is captain falcon not brawlex compatible?

Okay, I'm done with Charizard! Just need to get in-game pictures, and then we're cool! :)

Yeah, C. Falcon doesn't have an ExModule. Well, he does, but its Final Smash freezes the game.

We need a menu "Pic of the every now and then"
Then we'll really be a smash 4 project

Yeah...

Look what i have  :yay: sadly i don't know how to use it yet  :kdance:
(http://i.imgur.com/AcwXxJ6.png)

A... broken image?

No, he was excited that he got 3DS Max. :)

 Sorry for not being very active recently, I had to deal with things. On the other hand, it did take a while to catch up on what I missed since you guys progress fast with textures. As for progress on Bjr, I'm revamping his arms...and pretty much the entire model at that.



 Speaking of Charizard,

Cool! :) Except...
Sorry about that. :P
And yeah, I have an animation for Flare Blitz (Charizard's new Side+B), except I tested it in-game and the P1 above its head doesn't move. And after the animation, it teleports back to where it was before it used the attack. Any help on this?

Looking good so far, BTW are we using Roger Craig Smith's voice for Sonic? Hate it but, I guess we are gonnba have to use it

Maybe, but we're keeping each veterans' SFX the same. Maybe we'll change it once the Wii U version comes out and has a rippable ROM file.

Oh, and I have an announcement to make...
When you guys release things for Project Super Smash 4, name them "Project Super Smash 4 - _____",
not just "Smash 4 _____"; You're sort of making it look like Project Super Smash 4 is just a compilation of hacks I found on the Vault that just so happens to belong to you guys. :P No offense, you just need to change the names. That's all. :) ( I'm not angry or anything )

And, I'm also thinking maybe we shouldn't release our textures/PSAs to the Vault, and maybe just show the fans pictures and stuff. I mean, SSB4 doesn't let you download all the new characters as DLC for Brawl, and Project: M never does that either. I don't know, it just seems a bit more professional to me. However, I'm letting the fans decide that: With a new poll! :laugh:

Plus, it could be buggy. So every time anyone is finished with something, please PM it to me with a download link, and I'll test/approve it. I'm giving everyone a whole 5 days to vote on whether we should release our stuff to the Vault, and after that, I'm locking voting and seeing how many people said "Yes" and how many people said "No". (Sort of like what Smash 3 is doing for their Source PSDs)

And, sorry for the long post.

Moving on to Charizard, a few things I've noticed about him:
Fly(up+B) doesn't do fire damage anymore
and rock smash seem slightly nerfed(not sure to what degree)



EDIT:
This should rplace Ganondorf's neutral B (http://i.imgur.com/J3euW6I.gif)

Working on this :D
(http://i.imgur.com/RzAdaMO.png)

Is dat PacMan? :o

Also, I wasn't able to get screenshots today, so maybe tomorrow I can and then send the files and images to Junior so he can upload them.

P.S. I'm going to be looking more into my career of 3d modeling and animation and such, so I won't be able to help as much on this project.

I have been reading this thread for a while....and I want to join your team. But I looked at the slots and I thought "Can I still join?"  Because I would like to do textures and work on soundtrack, too. Lemme just post meh skillz:

Name: SmashJay87
Skills: External GFX importing, Texturing, Music finding, Basic Animation Switching, Model replacing (I.e, importing Samus over ZSS)
Favorite SSB Characters: 64: :samus: Melee:  :samus: :marth: :zelda: :sheik: :mewtwo: Brawl:  :samus: :zsuit: :pit: :link: :mk: :sonic: :marth: :ike: :ness: :lucas: Smash 4:  :samus: :zsuit: :pit: :ike: :ness: :mk: :sonic:  :ganon: :zelda: :sheik: + Rosaluma, Greninja, Dark Pit, Palutena, and Mii Fighters
Free time: I'm available on Sundays until November (after tennis season is over)

It's really up to Junior, but I'm not going to help much after Mr. Game & Watch's and Kirby's recolors, so I would say,"Feel free to take over for me :) "

If you don't wanna :p I'm not sure how to G&W though, but I can make do with Kirby. I'd also like to do Samus if possible and if Junior's ok with it

Actually, I just finished Kirby and Mr. Game & Watch; I just haven't yet taken in-game pictures, which I should be able to do tomorrow.

Can I join Project Super Smash 4? I'm working on a Pac-Man over Mario PSA so maybe It will help out. NOTE the PSA looks best with this model: http://www.mediafire.com/download/6qty5jcbtcl6tpg/FitPac-Man00.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/6qty5jcbtcl6tpg/FitPac-Man00.zip)

Possibly, but we're not using that model. :P It doesn't have a rigged mouth for our animations, and it's not big enough. Besides that, TheepicMVSL2 is working on Pac-Man's model right now.
I might do some animations for him after we're done with a few veterans' textures.


Sure, welcome to the team! :D
Maybe, but I think Samus needs a model import or something. Her shoulder ball things on her power suit are too big in Brawl for what Smash 4 has to offer. So maybe you can do Samus after we import her newest design.

And, TheepicMVSL2? How did you get 3dsMax?!? I thought it was $4000!!! :o
If you somehow got it for free (legally), then I'm TOTALLY doing what you did. ;)

He may have gotten the student version; which you can get legally for free if you are a student of any kind; it does have a time-limit though. Like a year or two. :-\

if your a student at school just sign up for the student account and you can also ge other autodesk products free if you have a student account :)

I'll do that, Junior~
Juss lemme know

Pac-Man Progress :)
(http://i.imgur.com/6TCyBW0.png)

2 whole years? Wow... I'll try learning what everything does BEFORE I get it, so I don't waste any time. ;)
I'll probably be learning 3dsMax and Vertex until the Wii U Version comes out. However, there's no way this project should take that long to finish, because it should be done sometime when people are really thinking Smash 4 is new; preferably when DLC characters are released, or 3ds amiibos.

I might work on Toon Link next, after I finish my schoolwork today. :)

you can also get a revision code if your a student so after 2 years you renew it for free ;) ;D :)

SWEET! That looks awesome! Now, if only I had 3DS Max. :/

Woah, where could one get such revision codes, sensei? XD
(Not that I'm gonna need one yet, I haven't even started to learn! And not to mention downloaded it.)

I'm making an AutoDesk account right now! :D

Wait, if anyone can just get the student version/revision codes, why isn't EVERYONE doing this?

Do what I do, if you're a student.

You can do that? Then that means that I could get the student version! :D How do you get revision codes?

What do you do? I seriously need this for both this project, and my project.

I forgot TheepicMVSL2's Fox in the downloads section :P
So, I added that, and FINALLY added a new pic of the every now and then! :)

Hey, guys, I found a CSS pack claiming to be the project that we had to rename ours for. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206359 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206359)

Finished Kirby and Mr. Game & Watch.(Though Mr. Game & Watch was buggy, so I could only do his colors and not his actual .pac/.pcs files.)
(http://i.imgur.com/dcPlGWJ.jpg)

The Kirby alts. look awesome! I think I'll get some screenshots of the Sonic textures up sometime today. If I'm lucky.

Oh, hi guys. I just downloaded 3dsMax :D , and now I have it installed, but I can't find where the Application EXE file is... any help? I'm stumped. :P

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Hold on, I found this "MAXFind" program, and am running it right now. I think it finds 3ds"MAX"... I'll see.

UPDATE: It DEFINITELY has to do with 3DSMAX, it's just I still can't find the .exe

Look at this :)
(http://i.imgur.com/bEhQQrn.jpg)

I support any adding to Project M. Once u guys have made some clones, u can use my project to add them in. I already added 14 characters to P:M so all u would need to do is switch around the modules and BrawlEx files to match the base character. I could even do that for u and my build isn't as buggy as Project M+. Sooo yeah. Once ur willing to work on P:M PSAs, pm me.

looks great :D :)

Noice.

I have a big surprise for you guys ;) some new improved animations of little mac are here i'll be back in a few just stay tuned so i can get the gif's ready :)

*Gets hype*

booom!


here we go! :D

(http://i.imgur.com/yPJXKqN.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/LNb3rBW.gif) (http://imgur.com/LNb3rBW)

(http://i.imgur.com/OCGO4sZ.gif)

all little mac's waits ;) and perfected now :)  :happy:

Nice!
:af:

i can be a play tester,i cant make video tho,i like this project,i thought you know,this is gonna be ass with the same characters but its not,i finally take a look at it and i see Greninja,Little Mac and Pac-Man,LEGO lol :af: :>.>palm: :kdance:

That Little Mac model is old, i have the same model but fixed, if you want i can PM you the model  ;D
EDIT:
Lol this message is for powerofthe17 ;D my error

Maybe, but he was displaying his awesome animations, not the model! :af:

I imported pac-man in brawl box just to test it, works fine, i just have to put bones, im having trouble with that, someone can help me? :D
(http://i.imgur.com/PswyYag.png)

yeah if you have one over marth then yeah just pm me :) and send me the file

 I think the time has come for some constructive criticism. On the efficiency side, everyone is doing great, 'cept me. However, we are getting further and further away from accuracy on the physical appearances of characters, namely Fox, Sonic, Pikachu, and Luigi. Basing Luigi on the CSP alone will not suffice as in-game pics are way more accurate than the renders. Currently, he looks more detailed than Brawl made him to be. Fox looks great with the exception of having the base model. He recieved more than just texture changes in Sm4sh. Sonic seems a bit desaturated and his eyes were already Sm4sh before being edited. Pikachu does look Sm4sh-ish, but we have a major problem, it's his Brawl model. So far, charizard is close, but yet again slight model changes. Pac-Man looks really well made, however, he is missing the birdges for his eyebrows and he seems a bit short and stubby, but you are still working on him. Little Mac is turning out to be very close.  I showed Mega Y to see if we could add it as an alt. Nanobuds has already made an excellent Mega X and I suggest asking to use. If not, then I'd be willing to work on one.

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I do not mean to sound rude, but we really need to make our characters look the part first before releasing as a final product in order for us to be taken seriously as an efficient and accurate bunch.

I get what you're saying; But nobody said these were the final versions of our characters. It takes a long time to perfect something... I agree a little on the in-game pics, but what about the recolors? There are barely any pictures of those... so it's best to do the CSP/Renders for now, just until we can either rip official models/textures from the WiiU version after it comes out. Or, we could wait until the WiiU version comes out, take 2-5 screenshots of each color/character/form, and then base it off of those. I'm kind of saying, in a way, that we might just have to wait until the WiiU version comes out before working on anything. ;)
But we at least have to try, just until it comes out. With the exception of Mewtwo/Roy, who we can make on our own.

P.S. We're not adding any extra costumes that aren't in SSB4. However we might use Nanobuds' Mega Charizard-X model, with permission.

I hope no one thinks I'm trying to insult anyone/anything, because I'm not. I'm just saying it MIGHT be best to wait. After all, patience pays... Or, there's another option: We can work hard on anything we do until we get a "Final" version, but until then, we name everything "Project Super Smash 4 - ____ V.01", etc.

On another note, I'm not gonna be on today, so just work on things until I come back (Other than Toon Link). So, just don't call things final, and I'll be back tomorrow. ;)

I actually checked the differences between Brawl's CSPs and in-game pics, and Sm4sh's CSPs and in-game pics, and it turns out that even though Brawl's colors are drastically different in the CSPs, Sm4sh has them almost identical in color. So, I figured why not? I'd just eliminate the lighting on the CSP(Not really; just imagining that I did) and then use those colors.

Sonic being desaturated is true.  Im gonna try and make him look more like SSB4.

I have a rosalina PSA that is really similar to her SSB4 moveset, if anyone's interested. It works perfect with my rosalina wii u recolors.

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It also includes a Luma, but the Luma doesn't move lol..

Hmm... maybe, I'll think about it. ;)
But we kind of need the Luma to move... I bet I could do that though. :)

I'm no PSA'er, but that sounds incredibly difficult.

Wait, what do you mean by "The luma doesn't move"? Does it even attack?

dont do smash 4 man...the game is going to come out soon enough when that happens theres no way yours will be as good (sorry), unil you remake everything, and that means all this was wasted time.
make it better...

add smash 4 and all the other video game characters you wish came out and make movesets for them as well like...

... my point is kc-mm is supposed to be about the things you would never get to play as....

i dont give two !@#$s about smash4 for wiiu or ds. because although they added characters, the also took them away.

We just simply want to make a SSB4 smash experience for those who dont have a Wii U or 3DS. + you tell us this when we are on the 25th page?

The project is neither to replicate SSB4, nor is it to replace it; it is simply to make a Sm4sh-styled version of Brawl, with added characters, for those who can't afford/can't get Sm4sh, or like Project M or any other forms of modding like that.

Wait, we're making a PM version?
*hype intensifies*

 Yep, says it right there on the first page.

I meant using the characters with the PM codeset, which you don't need anything additional to make. :P

Finished Strap Menu :)
(http://i.imgur.com/erWHmuB.png)

Nice! :)

Neat

Okay, I found a placeholder for Rosalina and Luma.
It was made by Fquintanilla14.
It has her SSB4 moveset, moving Luma included.
It's really well, I think we should use it.
It's not completely finished though.
Link here. https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rtlvq0c506a8lq/Rosetta%20%26%20Chiko%20-%20Demo.zip?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3rtlvq0c506a8lq/Rosetta%20%26%20Chiko%20-%20Demo.zip?dl=0)

Maybe, but we're a little big on creation (we want to make most of it by ourselves). And like I said earlier I'll think about it. ;)


Cool!

65% of progress on Pac-Man :)  :kdance:
(http://i.imgur.com/l6Ytymy.png)

This looks awesome! I can get the sprites for you for his PSA. But only on Sunday.

If you want, i can do the Project Official Web :)

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Better than ever :D
(http://i.imgur.com/m0IaKau.png)

This.

The swagness increases

Cool strap menu! *loves swag*

so who wants to handle BPs?

Oh yes, I almost forgot, I have the codes and the BRSTM for Bowser's new victory theme, should I send them to Junior?

Even though Smash is coming out in a few days (hype!) , I praise you guys for doing all this hard work for the people who won't be able to get Smash 4. You guys are making some good progress, keep up the good work! ;)

I guess I will. I like doing stuff with GIMP. ;)

I guess, okay! :)

Thanks! Yeah, I've also been looking forward to doing something hack-y with the newcomers.
(E.G. Megaman V.S. Waluigi, you can't do that in regular Sm4sh.)

Hey Junior, if you don't mind, I'm gonna wait untill Smash comes out (Getting it launch day. Hype!) to release Yoshi. I wanna try to make his animations perfect. He's about 80% done as of right now.

 :P Even though you guys are focused on making things yourself, you could use my Dark Pit recolors that I'll soon release on the vault.

 *pre-ordered a few weeks back* I have enough to get the game, just need to obtain a 3DS XL. Chances are that I may have to wait a week or so before playing. I'd be so behind. Dang.

That stinks... I might sell my 3DS to get either an N3DS or 3DS XL, (n3ds is new 3ds, coming out sometime soon I think, has the memory/power of the Wii ;D )

I can't really play, OR reference anything on that tiny screen. :P
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RAPWNED, good idea about Yoshi. I might do the same with Charizard.

I can't get TL's hair right; it was too realistic in brawl, and I can't change that without making my own hair texture, that I'm having trouble with. Any help?

oh guys btw all the pokemon seem to use models from X&Y in smash 4 (or at least modified ones) and luckily for use someone is ripping the xy models and we speak on the models resource

Did you try isolating the hair, have the background color be the same color as the hair, and then colorizing the picture? Because then it will be colorized to be the exact same as the color you pick, with only the same shadows and textures, but the colors will completely change all the same color.

srry :I i dont mean to belittle your project. Its just cuz I showed the megaman hack to a friend, and all he had to say was,
"megaman's sticky bomb normally goes offscreen if he misses in the demo"
"magaman's dog helps him high jump in the demo"
"megaman can throw his blade in 8 different directions in the demo"
"other megamen help megaman in his supersmash in the demo"

im like OMG ULL NEVER BE HAPPY Like if u have to work on characters on it wait for it to come out before working on the movesets, making the swipes when they attack. i noticed the motion trail was a little more rainbow like. or trying to get both ds and wii stages in.

i love ur idea. nevermind what i said i was just mad at my friend for a little while when i wrote that. lol but i didnt come here because i was mad at my friend i wasnt like AH IM MAD IM GOING TO KCMM TO VENT! sorry

Yeah, we're planning on making a better Megaman PSA soon. We haven't started working on it though.

We'll start working on it soon, probably after we get some official models from SSB3DS or WiiU, I'm pretty sure Boobsey is still working on ripping them. And soon, (once I get a tutorial), I'll import it. :)

 We should start with Poke Park 1 and 2 models for older generation Pokemon. I compared them to X/Y and their polycount is lower im X/Y due to limitations.

I thought it was illegal to rip models from a brand new game for any purposes other than your own. :P Isn't it when a year is passed that the copyright makes the game "not copyrighted" and you can use various things from it for small things? And then you can use more of it each year, since the copyright expires further? I could swear those are the legal terms, so I'm just warning you that this could be not entirely legal, ripping models straight from the iso before release.

Yeah, we wouldn't want to do anything illegal. :P
So until then, let's make our own models VERY VERY SIMILAR to the Sm4sh ones.

P.S. I'll try that with TL's hair, thanks!

Ok.

And, I'm back, ladies and gentlemen!  :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

So, what is new and what needs to be done?

This is a very interesting project that you've started up here. I knew someone would try to do this, and that's great! Good luck to you! I just have one question though. Are you going to be using the same textures as the wii u version? What I mean is, are you using the wii u Mario texture that's already in the game for your project? It could speed up the process, and it'll look better for all the characters, especially the newcomers like Little Mac or Shulk. Idk if there is a way to do that and if there are conflicts with the hd textures from the wii u, but I think if you or some of the collaborators found a way to rip the textures from the wii u version, and use it for your project, it could benefit you in lots of ways. You might as well rip the CSP's and BP's while your at it too. I know that's possible, people have already done that with the 3Ds version.

Again, great job so far with the project! I'll occasionally drop in here in case I can help. I've been modding project m for a while now, and would be glad to help in anything relating towards brstms, or just fan art I can create for this if you need it. Can't wait to see the final end product of this project!

Thanks for the compliments. And yes, we'll do the WiiU Version stuff as soon as it actually exists. And, we might use the textures too, depending on what the fanbase says. (Is there a fanbase?)
If they want us to, we will. No problem. :)

P.S. I got a reservation card for SSB3DS. I'll get it the day it comes out, on 10/3/2014 at Target. I can't wait until 3 days from now! (Oh, and there probably is going to be huge update to the OP. Maybe.)

I will have the game the day it comes out too!

I will most likely also get it the day of release.

Same here!

The day after tomorrow, guys. :D

(http://i.imgur.com/zqXSIp5.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/iUaFr0b.png)

Great page of information guys.

My 3DS is Reggie.

Yes.  :af: :af: :af: :af:  :kdance: :kdance: :kdance: :kdance:

Ha... the countdown begins. Only 4 hours and 44 minutes. (Seriously, no joke | Until Release)
However, I'm not getting it at midnight, so consider it 11 hours and 44 minutes. (Until I own it)

~eye starts twitching~ I am so ready. I'm not getting my copy until about 3:30 tomorrow. I have frikin' school.

 It's a good thing I cashed one of my checks to get this game and an XL. However, I am not getting the midnight relase XD.

IKR? I hafta wait till like 4:15 ;-;

OH, guys, look what I made!
(http://i.imgur.com/r63Zdvb.png)
The world is finally complete...
Oh, and THE GAME IS OUT!!!

....stupid rain.

Don't remind me....
a few more hours of waiting, and the weekend is mine! Haha!  :af: :af: :af: :af:  :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay:

 I'll take it that I was the first one here to get the game and an XL. Funny, Sm4sh was the only thing that conviced me to really want a 3DS. I'll play it soon and will hopefully be able to provide some accurate things. However, I cannot do much as we are focused on the Wii U one more.. maybe I'll do 3DS versions. With it having different texture styles and proportions for certain characters.

Hey guys, Lucario and M-Lucario are on models resource now. Link (http://www.models-resource.com/other_systems/pokemonxy/model/8164/), I think we should this.

I haven't been able to put it down all yesterday and today.... Please help me.

Sorry, too busy enjoying the epicness that is Smash 4. :D

So lets get back on topic
I ripped the character announcer calls, someone is ripping X&Ys models that we should rigg
And finally, I'm redoing my Meta Kirby.

1. My username is hoogachakka
2. Even though I just signed up, I have been practicing moveset and texture making, but I am better at moveset making. I could possibly rig and import models, but I'm not sure. Also, wouldn't it be easier to export models from SSB4s ROM itself?
3. My favorite SSB character is Captain Falcon
4. I am free everyday, but on weekdays it goes: Monday 3-4 PM, 8-10 PM. Tuesday it's 3-4:30 PM, 5:30-10 PM, Wednesday: 3-4 PM, 8-10 PM, Thursday: 3-4 PM, 7-10 PM, Friday: 3-4 PM, 5:45-7 PM, 9 PM-12 AM, and on weekends I'm free all day (Most of the time)

OK, I have the moveset for Kirby done. Even with his Hammer Flip technique.

Looks like you've guys have gotten a new competition.  :-\

-Project Super Smash 4 for 3DS/Wii U Brawl Edition

Nice! I might do Pit and Dark Pit soon, once we can get the textures/models done.

Also, I think I'll finish the Battle Portraits soon.
After that, I'll do Pit, Dark Pit, Wario, R.O.B., Mario, Greninja, and possibly Lucina and Marth.
But for now, Battle Portraits. I got finished with Toon Link's too.

Izumo,they would be way better than a newb who cant do anything but get hacks and put them in the game,idk how to do half the stuff they do and i will probably be helping them out now with the project,im hoping someone can teach me the ways of all the hacking of smash lol

Guys, i need help with pac-man model, the bones :(

I Can Playtest. But I Never Made PSAS Or Textures.

Well, I've been a lurker for some time, just signed up ;p

Anyways, I've ripped the sounds for both Lucina and the Robins (and Chrom), and I thought I might as well share them since they'll probably be needed sooner or later.

Robin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/yc2l01ogr82oypr/Robin_SSB_4_Sound_Clips.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/yc2l01ogr82oypr/Robin_SSB_4_Sound_Clips.zip)

Lucina
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ievgqu6sz6y9qe4/Lucina_SSB4_Voice.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/ievgqu6sz6y9qe4/Lucina_SSB4_Voice.zip)

Awesome! We might get this done at the end of the year!  :af:

But seriously I just ripped sooooo many models and I'm ready to use those

Well then use them! We might need models, I'm not sure...

Well I did just rip a Rosalina model, I could rig it

This might be a little off topic... but once I learn modeling with 3DSMAX, we probably won't be recruiting anyone else for the project. My main task for now should be modeling, so that we can make the PSAs.

Also, I would appreciate it if everyone stops doing things completely on their own, and we work together more often. :)

Soon there WILL be Project Super Smash 4 dropbox account. I want everyone, as soon as they're done with anything, to put it in that dropbox for everyone on the team to try out; there will also be a private build folder in it, that we can put on the SD cards.

There's one more thing I'd like, though... there'll be a new account named "PSS4DT". Everyone will collaborate with that account on anything they made for the project, so we can keep track of our downloads.

The main thing I'm asking is for everything to be a little bit more organized around here. I hope that's not too much. :)
(Sorry if this is a bit of a mouthful... XD)

P.S. I'll be putting the XCF/PSD file for our preview cards in the dropbox, too. (Which, by the way, is opening probably tomorrow.) ;)

So, wait. This is an account that we all have access to?
That seems kind of smart. I should have done this with my Project.

Sounds like a smart idea.

I know u get asked this a tunn, but could I be a playtester.

Im in college and about every other day all of my friends get together and play brawl or smash. so I would be able to test things like 4 players at a time. there are things ive found playtesting before tht r like impossible to find like i found i players side b freezes on another hack, but only when someone uses a smash move at the same time.

(plus a friend wont stop bugging me about the real villager psa) Villager has a tree BLAH!

 Good idea. The only problem is that post a few seconds behind one another will cause issues. Nothing major. I'd probably be part of the night crew.

I'll just do mine when nobody else is on it! :P

Im sorry i kinda disappeared. I've been training for the Smash 3DS Tournament,

Looking good so far! Are we gonna have 8 colors per character or throw in some alts? Or both?

Pretty sure it's 8

Yup, each character except for Little Mac, has 8 costumes. Little Mac has 16 costumes. I don't think we can manage to make a slot with 16 costumes. That is impossible.

Which is why we cut Hoodie Mac (WHYYYYY) to make room for Wire Frame Mac (WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY)

Well, I can tell you he can have 16 costumes... all we need to do is give Wireframe Mac his own roster slot, as seen in the OP.

And... MAAAAAAAAAYYYYYBBBEEEEE we'll have 8 costumes and 2 alts per character...
...maybe.

Seems like a very good project, I can see some good animations here.

Although I'm really interested to animate for this project as I seriously need to practice and I just

ANIMATE. I LIKE TO ANIMATE.

I tried making a tenth costume slot for Sonic in my project, and the 10th slot wouldn't work. So, let's stick with 8.

 Make 2 alts and have them be optional. For example. Peach can have FitPeach10 as an option alt out of two choices. Such as Sports attire and biker suit.

Kind of like how I made my Mario Luigi palette optional :D

Are we disscussing alts? If so, i have a few ideas for Sonic alts.

Then speak now, or forever hold your ideas.

So can I join the team as a model importer and moveset maker? It doesn't say open slot for moveset makers, but three isn't enough in my opinion. If I could join, that would be great

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I just got a rom dump and found something great. All csps and css icons and such straight from the game, you don't need to make them now

Sorry, but I gave them that really early on, so you're kinda late for that party

Here are some additional ideas for Sonic alts from me, too :)
Shadow Sonic(Black), Tails Sonic(Orange), Knuckles Sonic(Red), and Jet Sonic(Green); maybe also a Silver Sonic(Silver), to make it as an additional entire roster. ;)

Mario alts u say?
Metal Mario, Sunshine Mario, Shadow Mario, Flying Suit Mario, Rock Mario, and Referee Mario

Gotta have Raccoon Mario, though, which you didn't mention; that would be one of the top alts. ;)

I love Tanooki Mario!! I enjoyed playing Super Mario Bros. 3!!

Which one? There were three, one with just ears and tail, one with a full suit, and another with a full suit and a scarf.

The full suit. No scarf.

Ahhh, but I liked the scarf :p

I want to make a pac-man moveset & animation, if that's OK

Just gonna leave this here...

:)

 Looks pretty cool, but the hair needs less detail.

Well, i got nothin' else to do. So i'll do that the now.

To me, the hair looks fine; the only thing I'd change would be to just have a glowier version of the Brawl belt, and the tunic to not have its own texture like that, but to have the Brawl texture in that same new color. Then I think it would look like the Sm4sh one. ;D

Looks good! I like it! Could I do re colors?

I've already done all 8 recolors.


I tried that, But it just looks too realistic. Its better to make your own folds and shades.


Im making SSB4 Adult Link the now! :D

Ooh, do you have previews of them? :D

A few!

Nice! :D

Also guys, i have a few alt ideas for Toon Link.

We could texture him to look like his Outset Clothes. like Link's Skyward Clothes. Or..

Someone could vertex hack him to look like Young Link. Similar to KTH's hack.

Young Link is a separate character entirely; but with the idea of two alts for him(I kinda agree with you on that), I'd say use the really-well done Outset Link somewhere on the Vault(Or at least I could swear there was one), and for the other alt, and for the Skyward Sword Tunic Toon Link, you could use Skyward Sword Link's (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=31988) textures(Maybe play it safe and ask for permission) and reposition them to be in the same places as Toon Link's textures. ;D

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The Skyward Sword Link had preview pics when I downloaded it; it just doesn't now, but it is SS Link. ;)

What i meant was like Link's skyward sword outfit at the start of the game.

Kinda hard to explain

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=36025 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=36025)



i meant something like this, But for Toon Link with Outset Textures,

Also, it would be more of a Toon Young Link then turning him into actual Young Link.


Speaking of Link...

Outset Toon Link and Train Conductor Toon Link maybe?

Still unsure what you mean, but that Link job is awesome! :D

That's a good start, but I think you should desaturate the hair and the main part of the tunic. Also try getting rid of the detail in the hair because in Smash 4 Toon Link's hair is sorta like a block of cheese, flat with no extra details. Lastly try blending the shadows and the lights some more on the toonic(bad pun)

Hey man, I feel like I need to add some feedback on your Link. I wish this may be helpful for you since my intentions is to make you and your creations better for the future... so here it goes:

It looks..... bad. I'm sorry.

But you may wanna try to make the shadows and lights more subtle, semi transparent. Like we back at smash 3 do it. The hair is a bit lack luster, looks like yellow ice cream. I may recommend to give the hair less textures, and make it less intense in terms in brightness and colors.
The triangle bellow his neck is a bad Idea as it makes Link's neck look deformed when zoomed in. You may wanna revert it back to normality.

The rimlight is intense, you might wanna tone it down, since in SSB4, rimlight that intense is ONLY on the galaxy stage. As a rimlighter myself, please I insist, intense rimlight is not good... I tell you by experience, people just don't like it as much as the subtle ones.

Again, this is just critism, I honestly see pontencial, and I would like to see what your improved skills looks like.

Dedicate alot of time on your textures, when I did smash 3 ROB it took me 2 months, you might not need that much time... but do things slowly and carefully. And if you think "I can do this better" even once, you can, if you're not satisfied with what you create in your fullest, keep improving... that my friend creates quality.

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Narrowing it down, challenge yourself.

Yes, we're trying to make a quality game that can be as much like Smash 4 (without the excludings part) as possible. So if we mess up, we'll try again. If we mess up again, we'll try again. And if we keep messing up, well, I guess we could always rip the textures/models like I've been planning. I think the Toon Link looks nice, except the rim-lighting. It's pretty cool, but not that much like Smash 4. Maybe you could label it "Vibrant-er Toon Link", or something if you really want to keep it. :)

As for the alternate costumes, I don't think so. 8 costumes per character, (except little mac who has 2 roster slots)... And Bowser Jr., just until we get the "Team Outlines" working, Bowser Jr. will have:
Original (Green Team)
Red (Red Team)
Blue (Blue Team)
Koopalings
Same with Robin, Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer.

Sorry SUPAHSAWNIK99 for not responding on your work yet. I've been busy, and couldn't check out the Kirby. :( (But I will soon! Soon, like, now.)
On the plus side, the dropbox is working! I'll send everyone the Username and Passwords in a while, once I organize all the folders, and put in what I've been working on. I'll also probably update the OP and include a Pic of the every now and then as well. And I'll also also update the Project Super Smash 4 Wiki, I've been working on it for a while, since webs only provides 5 pages per website while still being free (what the heck?).


And... I need ShadowLuigi-NG- or TheepicMVSL2 to look at this: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=71536.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=71536.0)
I followed the "DAE importing for dummies" tutorial... :P

(How many model rippers do we have?)

P.S. Pac-Man's model isn't done (I think...)

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(I hope I said the right things...)

Robin, Villager, WFT, and Bowser Jr. all have team colors... Tho Bowser Jr. I can understand not using Koopalings as team colors

Not quite, but I will give ya a hint:

Be a bit more strict. Focus more on the flaws than the whole picture, don't easily accept things without saying much. You must help your members improve! And what better way than a project's leader to do such a thing? I insist, give more critique.

Let me just say this: I would like to join the team as an animator.

I honestly couldnt agree more. Your right. It does need improvements, I'll make the rimlight less intense, use the eraser at about 20% so the shading isnt weird, less detail on the hair.. I sorta done that, But im INSANELY bad at hair texturing. The neck bit though.. What you said confuses me.I appreciate the criticism and i just need to get better & better, Thanks!

If the lights and shadows are on a same layer, uou can chage the layer type from "normal" to "softligh", this will cause the shadows and light to blend better and merge with the color.
Check the neck area where the neck meets the clothes, its a bit wierd to look at, try to figure out what exactly looks wierd to you and think of a way to improve it.

Oh yeah.. That's what the tutorial was talking about! I get it now, I think i know why the neck is like that. So im starting over and gonna make a better Toon Link. Thanks!

Oh yeah, I never posted this on here.
(http://i.imgur.com/q6JgP5B.png)

I'll flip the head of course. He's almost done.

What is that? A Mii Fighter?

Mii Swordsman, awesome! :)
I think he's a bit too tall though...

It's very-well done! :)
I didn't actually look at the Mii Swordsman that closely before; so they have different parts from different characters, I see. ;)

I've added hoogachakka to the Animators list on the OP, welcome!

Glad I could help.

His head is a bit small...gotta change that. He's over Link, that is where size mods come in. Perhaps a PSA if he'll be included. I plan to do the other two as well and just leave them there until the animation team is ready. As for Bowser Jr., he'll need major revamping to work with a custom PSA. I was wondering if we should use R.O.B instead of Lucas. He has more bones and a larger limit than Lucas. Or unless he will be like Mewtwo and have a custom boneset.


 Yes and no. Only the Mii Swordsman has OoT Link's boots, minus the buckle. The problem here is that Link is a lefty and well...yeah.

Ok guys, I redone Toon Link, But i need your honest opinion..

I think KingNeptune101 is working on porting Bowser Jr. over R.O.B., or is at least trying.
And technically, he's only a lefty in most games; in games like Skyward Sword or The Legend of Zelda, he is a righty. ;D



In my opinion, he needs a texture on his belt buckle(Only the buckle; the belt part's fine), and make his tunic/hat one solid color instead of having those dots(The shading is excellent, by the way! ;) ), but other than that, he's perfect! :D

Thank you, and now that I'm part of the team, where do I start, and where do I get the private build?

Belt buckle was mentioned.

If the cloth pattern is in its own layer, try soflight or hardlight, as it blend. If its already set like this, try making the pattern VERY transparent, notice that in windwaker, the details are not that noticeable... but on smash is slightly noticeable.

You need to recolor the mouth skin texture in an equal color, you can notice the different tones between the mouth and the face.

Here's an upside, its already miles better than before.

I agree, it's wonderful! I also think the pattern on the shirt is a little too visible, try opacity 20% or so, make it more of an overlay than the main "attraction". :P

You can start by telling me where you want to start. :)
The private build will soon be in the dropbox account, I'll PM everyone the Username and Password for it. ;)

Any work towards stages yet?

Not yet. I'm still learning model importing. ;)
I'm also STILL stuck on that ONE MSscript problem about the bitmap detach thing... :P
I've updated Mario's profile on Project Super Smash 4 Wiki, though. :D
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I have one (two? three? FOUR?!?) more announcement(s?), though.

1. Try not to release anything without permission and adding it to the Dropbox first.

2. Everyone as you can see has their own folders in the Dropbox I just sent you guys. (If not, just add one yourself in the PRIVATE folder on the root of Dropbox)
This contains a WIP private build, currently it has nothing on it. Also, on the root there will be a TEXT file, named "PSS4 Update Log".
Check there every now and then to see what I've been adding to the private build/vault.
If you added something to the Dropbox, say so either here or in your folder, in any shape or form. :)

3. The account "PSS4DT" hasn't been created yet due to Google Chrome not loading images. :P

4. Wait... AM I A ROBOT?!?! lol

P.S. GUESS WHAT'S GOT OPEN!!! :D

Remember to collab me on everything Project Super Smash 4. :)

One more thing on the dropbox note... everyone has to have a dropbox account in order to access the stuff. :P
I recently learned how to share folders, and I need to know who to share it with. PM me your guys' dropbox usernames and I'll get to it right away.

Are they any slots open for model importing? If so I could join the team.

I could make an animation for the mii fighter, when ShadowLuigi~NG~ is finished

Ok, Thanks for the feedback. The pattern is set to multiply and 25%, so i will change it to overlay and 15%.(if i have to) Belt buckle i completely forgot about. But isnt extremely difficult. Mouth.. That mouth is difficult, i had perfect textures last time for the mouth but i overwrite them. But i guess i will need to start over with a different color.

I dont recomend overlay much, its too intense and it works for metalic textures most of the time. Try hardlight or softlight and edit the transparency.You'll nail the effect, feel confident about the tweakings! For the mouth... Did you tried color picker?

 Heyo Scout, long time no speak. That is an awesome avatar ( fav sm4sh Bowser recolor). Nice to see you back on.

Yes, But im starting the skin & mouth over. Because its hard for the skin to get the exact effect. I also think i should remake the master sword.

I don't think you should remake the master sword, I think you should remake the mouth and his hair.
 :>.>:

'sup NG! I was around all the time, but I limited my posts to the bv section ever since I retired brawl hacking. I decided to now aid this thread just like I did with Mirage back then... seeing these guys need feedback, as long as they accept it, I'll be happy to help.

This is also my favorite bowser, next to dark bowser : P


He needs to do so actually, it would look inconsistent with the rest of the model's textures.

Sure! That'd be cool to have more model importers, because we need to import Sm4sh models for every character, and that might take a while with only 3, so welcome!

Okay.

Alright guys, How close am i to finishing?

It looks a lot better, but if you look at the ssb4 model on google images, you can see that there's still a tiny bit of work to be done. The master sword for example, has a lighter shade of blue. Other than some things, it's good.

Literally just fixed the Master Sword there the now.XD

By the way, Are we making our own CSPS or are we using Smash 4 CSPS?

I think we're using smash 4 csps, but don't take my word for it. I think it would save a lot of time to do that

We're using Smash 4 CSPs. Remember, Boobsey did all that work getting them for us.  :)

Sweet! Do what you want with it, but I think it's done. Oh, SSBXReal, do you have a Dropbox account? I need to share the PSS4 Dropbox folder with everyone, so I need their dropbox account usernames/e-mails. :)

And one more thing, can I do the recolors?

I am too excited for the recolors, Im sorry. :(

Wont it be difficult for ALTS and their CSPS?  I already have a Toon Link CSP saved, But Boobsey did go through all that trouble..

So much thoughts right now. I will upload it to the Dropbox account soon along with his PSA,(Yay!)

I think that after the toon link and mii fighters, we can do a duck hunt dog model

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Also, for the mii fighters, I think that the alts should be the brawler, swordfighter, and gunner, or something like pokemon trainer where you choose which one

 Sadly, that is not the case if we want to use their respective weapons. The gunner will mostly likely start over zero suit and the brawler may be fox. Falcon is a posibility, but that will need bone edits. I may put him over Falcon.

No, Brawler's over Mario, Gunner's over Lucas (or Peach), and Swordfighter's over Link. Remember we have to take BrawlEx' ExModules into account, and we don't have ZSS C. Falcon or Fox yet...
...Still.

(That's okay about the recolors, Real. Wait, you didn't give me your Dropbox thingy yet... the shared folders thing only works across dropbox accounts, sorry.)

However, I've heard PhantomWings is updating the BrawlEx Clone Engine VERY SOON! I'm so excited! ;D

I'm updating Fox with CSPs, BPs, Stock Icons, organized Fighter Files, and Wooflezz' Wolf Alternate.

P.S. ShadowLuigi~NG~, I still need help with the model importing... please? It'll get the models done faster. :)

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One more thing, I accidentally sent everyone the e-mail and password to MY Dropbox account. Big "whoops" there... :P
But anyways I'm going to need everyone's Dropbox e-mail... I bet I can find some of them by downloading hacks though.

OK, I guess being gone for a while does have its perks. XD

Ok, so, I can't make a dropbox account, so, Junior, I'm gonna PM my finished stuff to you! Then, you can drop it in the account for all to use! Also, I use Mediafire. Like I said, I'm going to send everything I work on to Junior.

Is this project using brawlex?

Yes.

Yeah, you already sent me some things. Like the Sonic, and "everything you ever worked on for project super smash 4".
That's too bad about the Dropbox though. I guess I can still send you the private build in a PM! :)

I do have a Dropbox, Its just that im not comfortable as my email shows my name and age.

The Mii fighters would probably go best over the characters:
Swordsman over Link
Gunner over MegaMan or Fox
and Brawler over Mario or Captain Falcon

:) These are my ideas as to who they should go over ;)

1. How can Mii Gunner go over Mega Man? XD
2. We're using BrawlEx. To make things simpler, I'm going to post this right now:

BrawlEx ExModules (NEEDED FOR CLONING):
Mario
Link
Lucario
Lucas
Marth
Meta Knight
Peach
Pikachu
Olimar
Pit
Snake
Wolf
Ike
Sonic
Jigglypuff
Ganondorf

There. :) Sorry about all the confusions, I should have done this earlier. :P

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You don't have a secret identity? XD

Hold up. So the dropbox account you sent us is the wrong one?
And I need a dropbox account of my own? Thought we were gonna use a shared account, because I don't have one :/

Yeah... Sorry about that. :P
I'm working on a new better organized Preview Card, though! It'll be in the Dropbox too.
And, all you need to have a dropbox account is an e-mail account. Then you make your own password, and username. You don't need a mobile phone number or anything. :)

ima go make another Dropbox account

EDIT: Cant i just use the Smash 4 email and extract them to my folder?

Ok! :)
I'm done with my new preview card. Oh, can you do me a favor and download Project Super Smash 4 - Fox? I need to see if the download is working; This is my first time using Dropbox.

I can only get files in the .zip files.

I mean in a Mediafire link in a personal message.

Hey Real, did you redo the
Smash 4 Link too?

Guys, new poll! Apparently I need some motivation to keep on working. I haven't made a texture in forever! XD

Yeah, I know, but don't put them into .RAR format. I prefer it if you send things to me in a .ZIP format.

Lolz; I just looked at the Sm4sh Kirby that I was collabed on, and for a second I thought that that was a picture from external sources, so I guess it wasn't that bad of a job. Though my Luigi wasn't very good on having the texture created.(Though I thought I did a decent job on the recolors. :) ) ;D

When I first saw that I was collabed, I didn't think I did anything. Until I realized I did Kirby's moveset.

Yeah! :)
It looks like external sources because it's from those pictures you sent me.
BrawlBox looks AWFUL with Kirby renders, and I'm still learning 3dsMax... :P

I'm doing Squirtle right now, then Ivysaur. Can't wait to release them! They need to be at the same time because... well, check the OP Pic of the every now and then. Plus, I still need to figure out how to remove their tired-ness of power stuff...

They'll be released in a few... days? Idk.

;D

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It was actually a screenshot from Brawl, though :P
;D Kirby's so much easier to redo than other characters, like I said. ;)

That's okay, it's still the Kirby texture you made....right?



...right?