so you took my serpent thingy into consideration i see?
its too broken in the air xD you should make it throw him into free fall afterwards. cause i kept going back and forth under final destination with it
if you do go along with guardian field as a down smash, then you should probably replace his first up-taunt spell with... first aid. that way it has to have some charge to cast it. but make it heal like 10% or something o.o"
and lower the distance of his up b xD
change explosion to eruption cause the fire you displayed looks amazing o_o" and i LOVE how Judgement came out :DD
glad a few of my suggestions helped n_n'
oh okay, so you prefer eruption? do you think it would be cool to completely erase explosion and replace it with the other file spell i displayed?
so you took my serpent thingy into consideration i see?
its too broken in the air xD you should make it throw him into free fall afterwards. cause i kept going back and forth under final destination with it
if you do go along with guardian field as a down smash, then you should probably replace his first up-taunt spell with... first aid. that way it has to have some charge to cast it. but make it heal like 10% or something o.o"
and lower the distance of his up b xD
change explosion to eruption cause the fire you displayed looks amazing o_o" and i LOVE how Judgement came out :DD
I don't think my method's gonna work..... It's probably a better idea to just request a vertex..... Especially since I can give them the model for reference. Good luck with your method, DivineOverlord.
yeah, its too confusing x_x"
but for some reason it wont let me altar lookitslink's vertex hack.
That reminds me, there should be a better Kratos Vertex on Marth...I know this one Issac hack on hack that has the perfect hair to put on Marth for that.
do you know anybody who can do model swaps? if you can find someone, i can get the TOS or Tales of the world iso, and extract Kratos' character Model.
tried finding someone to do it. didnt work out that well =.="
perhaps a, "Heroic Kitten" has a better chance?
No dice, I haven't done any vertex hacks...and have no experience with them.
Here is that Ike hack I was talking about. If someone edited the hair and put it on with PSA, it could look just like Kratos. Plus, more detailed hair FTW.
Do you know anybody that can do model swaps? if you can find someone, i can download the TOS or Tales of the worlds iso and extract the kratos character model.
That reminds me, there should be a better Kratos Vertex on Marth...I know this one Issac hack on hack that has the perfect hair to put on Marth for that.
tried finding someone to do it. didnt work out that well =.="
... I prefer not saying anything about your last post Zeljius excepted this, you're disgusting me, and I'm sure I'm not alone to be disgusted, those who try to respect rules as much as possible may be disgusted a lot too...
Velen: Once again, I agree with you, totally! If psa makers make their psas focusing tier level, I think overpowered characters wouldn't exist, and it would be too bad because it can be fun!
Zeljius: To come back on this move, I don't see why Divine Overlord should make it! You asked for a Kratos Aurion moveset and you're putting things that are litterally against him, no wonder people say I don't know what you're trying to make this Kratos into! Besides now as I know what you have in mind, I can say that it is even more idiot! I said Kratos doesn't do a move like this in the video game, and it is truly true, he doesn't have the profile to make a slash that knocks the opponent behind him (excepted with his different light spear attacks), and has even less the profile to then turn and make a thrust just after an attack! And I really don't know if you know what you're saying, you're saying you want a slash in one direction, and after this you say that Marth's forward tilt can be used. Here I see no problem, but you say that you want it to knocks the opponent behind Kratos and that is the problem! Marth's forward tilt hits only in one direction, so how can it knocks the opponent behind him? Because you also said it was a slash in ONLY one direction! Of course we can put moves in a video game character that this character doesn't use in any of his game, but we have to at least put movements that could match him, and that is what Nintendo did, they didn't put for example in Marth's movements some projectile! They put completely new movements, that could match the characters, and that is the difference of what Nintendo did, and what you're trying to do Zeljius! And it should be even more easier for us to put movements for Kratos as we all know what he is capable of, so stop to put movements that completely doesn't match him! By reading your posts, as I'm a frank person I say it to you, I and maybe others have the impression that you want this Kratos to become what he isn't in order to win a tournament! To win a tournament not being overpowered like Omega Zero, I know, but to win a tournament! I don't think Psa maker make psa for this purpose, they make new characters to have fun the most important, to put new characters in brawl, not too overpowered when they make them balanced, but they try to be enough realist to put movements that match the character they make! Anyway, as it is Divine Overlord who makes the Psa, he will be the one to decide and do what he feels right!
Ouch.. listen. really. im not gonna argue with you, or insult you. this post is for kratos' movesets. not a playground for you or me to throw insults at eachother. im better than this, and you are too. what im about to say is probably contradictory to what i've been saying earlier, but i learn from my mistakes and am not gonna let mine cover up for yours.
if you dont have anything Mature to say about the moves i recommend for kratos then dont say anything at all. and like i said, im sorry about anything i said earlier. that includes any insults or down talk on the suggestion of super sonic thrust.
still going on with giving kratos no new effective moves? -sigh- there's a reason why lucas is so low on the tier list. his downsmash not being a reliable out of spotdodge option is one of the reasons. unless you're facing twards them, and even then that tends to be half of the time. which again makes it reliable. not gonna lie, its good if you're facing them, but only then.
did the whole little paragraph about nintendo giving nintendo characters new moves say nothing to you barbatos? if you're any good at brawl in any way you seriously gotta know what can be a good move and a crap one. kratos needs a reliable attack that can hit on both sides of him, and what better place to put it than as his downsmash.
i sense a failure in process.
I really don't know what you're trying to make this Kratos into. o_O
But I can GUARANTEE Lucas' dsmash isn't a bad move, and he's not low on the tier List for that reason. [/quote]
i want him to be reliable as a brawl character.
its not completely bad. the multiple hits about it is good. but it can only hit in one direction with alotta ending lag. so if id doesnt hit he's a really big target for a Forward smash. trust me, my friend plays lucas and i get him every time with ganons elbow if he misses ;P
and i didnt say thats the reason he's low on the tier list, i said that's one of the reasons the main reason he's low is because nearly half of the brawl cast and pummel release chain-grab him xD
Zeljius: The length of my posts concern only one person, and this is me! If you don't want to read long posts or semi long posts because you are lazy, then you can, but this is all your problem, it doesn't forbid me to make long posts, because I'm sure other people would be interested! We as members have the right to make long paragraphs to explain ourself and don't complain, I can make posts much longer than the post you read! But there is one thing that we don't have the right, it is double posting like you! And you made it numerous times on this topic while you could easily edit your message, especially when you forgot to say something after ten minutes you could easily have edited your message! Have you not read the rules when your registered on this forum? If it is not the case, I would advise you to go read them, before something happens to you!
I'm sorry Divine Overlord and other members that you had to see this, but there are times in our life when we have some things to say and when we can't keep them on ourselves!
Now I will come back on the down smash move!
It is not because a down smash doesn't hit in both directions that it is not reliable, look at Snake's down smash! And personally, I don't care about the tier list, it is not because we are the last member of the tier list that we can't be good, even if we have a down smash that doesn't hit in both directions we can be really good, the tier list can burn in hell like Kvar! All is important is to be intelligent and create situations in which we can use our best weapons! In that case, a move becomes very effective and reliable! Of course it depends of the training but personnally, I don't think this is because a move has some properties like hitting in both directions that it is reliable. And besides, there is already an other move that should hit in both direction if, obviously, Divine Overlord manage to do it like it was in Tos, it is light spear! And maybe there will be an other move that will hit in both sides, his up smash, as I don't know precisely what it will be, maybe light spear cannon or victory light spear!
And the last thing Zeljius! Imagine Divine Overlord makes a move that hits in both directions, what will be this move? Because I searched among your posts, and I haven't found ANY suggestion of concrete attack! Does that mean you don't even know what concretely this attack will look like? Because for now, this is what I think... You're good to say kratos has to have an attack that hits in both directions but you seem to have no idea how to make it... That is your message by not making concrete suggestion!
Anyway, Divine Overlord is the psa maker, so he will be the one to decide what move he will put! I just hope Divine Overlord will make a move that matches Kratos Aurion, because we do Kratos Aurion, a well known swordsman among tales of fans who has his properties very well defined!
Divine Overlord: You didn't answered my question! What does Overdrive does concretely? And I just noticed, why did you replaced his running speed movement? His running speed in Tos looks like a lot of Marth's running speed... Besides, I don't know if you know, but there are two sequences, the beginning where he has Marth's stance, and after that he runs with a new movement!
im just not gonna bother with the upper half of this message to avoid another essay directed twards me. PLEASE dont take that first part offenseive. im an adult and rather not argue about things like this. im just trying to get across that some moves should be different than the ones tales of symphonia. sorry for anything insultive i said prior to this post. and i'd rather not suggest for DivineOverlord an attack that im unaware of being possible or not for him. the thing i did suggest a few pages back, is a downsmash that's capable of being done. a slash in one direction, that knocks the opponent behind kratos, followed by a thrust to stab the foe behind him. the slash can be used with marths forward tilt, and the thrust can be tooken from marths Neutral B. or grab the several thrusts from his sword dance attack that can lock the enemy in for a garenteed hit im just suggesting things that will help balance out kratos. i'd rather not see him be too powerful against the original brawl contenders, or too useless.
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And I just noticed, why did you replaced his running speed movement? His running speed in Tos looks like a lot of Marth's running speed... Besides, I don't know if you know, but there are two sequences, the beginning where he has Marth's stance, and after that he runs with a new movement!