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    « on: October 19, 2012, 07:49:37 AM »








    JAK & DAXTER OVER FALCO by kingskull95, KTH,
    Frusciante with credit to demonboy


    first thing i noticed before touching any bone
    or paying any special attention to the model is his head's
    size, seeing the previews this confuses me, because
    it doesn't look like that at all, so when i get to the
    rig and animations i'll recheck this.

    second thing is how the model doesn't fit the bones, this
    is unacceptable in my opinion, specially seeing KTH is among
    the creators of the hack, and he is part of kc:mm's team, but
    just as the first point, i'll recheck how this works once i check
    out the animations.

    now let's take a better look at the model itself.

    first of all is this:


    weird hole in his nose, i know this isnt a big deal at all
    actually it's SUPER easy to fix, just set the head's cullmode
    to none, that way u'll see the back of his head through the hole
    which has a skin tone as well, and thus making this pretty
    unnoticeable, minor stuff that bugged me Tongue

    also this:


    it's noticeable that daxter has been posed through rough
    vertex edits, i'd recomend making a simple skeleton and a simple
    rig for this kind of stuff, to avoid this crappy stuff, it's not only
    that loose vertex there, the arms look distorted as well...

    more minor model stuff:


    eyebrows aren't touching the head O.O
    nothing much to say, this is just laziness by part of the
    modeller...

    that's all i found in a quick model check, now let's go to the rig and
    how the model animates...


    (that's his arm)

    this looks like the shoulderN bones aren't rigged, so im going to take a look
    at his T-pose and move the shoulderN bone around...



    as i thought, the shoulderN bone isn't rigged at all, this can cause some
    serious oddities as seen in image05...

    let's go on...



    as i already thought would happen, daxter get's in the way in all
    sideways' animations, specially the dash attack one, not saying this is
    important, i totally understand it, just wanted to point it out.

    haven't found any other significant rig errors, other than simple stretching
    i totally understand.

    oh yeah and fingers aren't rigged, not gonna blame anyone on that,
    u ever seen falco's fingers? xD

    now back to my first 2 points...

    first, i said the head was huge, i still think so, although it's not all
    that noticeable so i'll forgive that Tongue

    second, bones and model not being alligned... well, weird enough, i found
    the animations flow pretty nicely, so that's a nice job, although im sure
    it would've looked better with a better alignment.


    overall:

    model flaws:
    random holes in nose
    huge head (forgiven)
    eyebrows aren't touching his head
    daxter's bad posing

    rig flaws:
    shoulderN not rigged
    fingers not rigged (forgiven cuz of falco, also, fingers are kinda posed)
    daxter get's in the head's way in sideways' animations

    final judgement:
    it has quiet some model flaws, which kinda made me dislike the hack, but
    after seeing it in movement, i gotta admit i ended up liking it, too bad
    the shoulderN bones aren't rigged, that would make it a lot better overall
    i gave it a download because of the hype for this character, was scared
    away by the model at first, but when looking at it in depth, ive almost fallen in love
    and it will sure get in my brawl as soon as i re-update my roster ^^

    also,i dont know how this model was made, looks like semi-custom and T-posed...


    chinese dragon
    babydoll custom model over marth
    batman
    devil girl



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    « Reply #1 on: October 19, 2012, 10:16:43 AM »


    HULK SMASH!
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    The thing that pisses me off about Project: M the most is that Sheik's chain doesn't tether ledges anymore. WHY THE NERF? :/

    If only hacking Brawl paid bills.

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    « Reply #2 on: October 19, 2012, 01:03:24 PM »


    yay streaming
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    « Reply #3 on: October 19, 2012, 01:06:55 PM »


    not today anymore, anyway, while it was on (just like 30 minutes till 3ds max crashed) who came online? cuz i had some visitors who seemed mute... xD
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    « Reply #4 on: October 19, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »


    not me
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    « Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 07:09:25 PM »


    cool new thread *follows*

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    « Reply #6 on: October 20, 2012, 03:40:39 AM »


    gonna make a new part for this thread, called quality vault

    im going tro make some banners now and then i'll explain what it's all about
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    « Reply #7 on: October 20, 2012, 03:42:50 AM »


    as long as its no votes up or votes down system for the vault or you might get in trouble
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    « Reply #8 on: October 20, 2012, 05:12:36 PM »


    added critique/feedback/w/e about jak & daxter to the OP, also cleaned it up, tomorrow i'll make a entry for the "quality vault"
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    « Reply #9 on: October 20, 2012, 05:44:45 PM »


    added critique/feedback/w/e about jak & daxter to the OP, also cleaned it up, tomorrow i'll make a entry for the "quality vault"

    read through the critique and let me say a couple of things u said were true but obviously daxter would get in the way but that obviously was gonna happen XD. and yes daxter did go through a little vertexing XD but overall it wasnt a bad critique some stuff were little things that you would not see in gameplay (holes in nose and eyebrows not touching) and yes i had to manually T pose the model XD. but i dont understand what u mean by model not being alligned...
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    « Reply #10 on: October 20, 2012, 08:19:37 PM »


    I got some pics (mostly in-game) of problems with various models from the Battle Royale Pack...
    (Feel free to use them, jokekid...)

    Be warned, the spoilers are image heavy...

    Cole:
    Lots of holes...
    His backpack's Amp holster can be seen through:
    His torso has holes near the backpack:
    Many, many holes around the waist area and notice the deformation just below the hip:
    Then some rigging issues...
    Notice how his back is bent like he's origami:


    Nathan Drake:
    This is one of the ones I was overjoyed about the most...but I've had a hard time finding an angle of him that hasn't had rigging problems or holes...

    Holes, holes everywhere...
    Hole in the neck:
    That's the power of Old Spice?
    Umm...
    Rigging problems...
    I think both his arms have multiple compound fractures:
    Ow:


    Raiden:
    This one was one of the better ones that I tried, but it still was pretty bad... He doesn't have as many holes as the others, but his rig still has problems...

    There's a hole in his left hand (and I'm pretty sure the fingers aren't rigged to the bones)
    Yes, that's a BrawlBox screencap...:
    Rigging...
    I think his left shoulder is borked:
    If you can't tell, that's his head moving onto his left shoulder and his upper back jutting out in front of where his neck should be:

    And yes, I do know this isn't near all of them, but these were all that I tried...
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    « Reply #11 on: October 20, 2012, 08:42:57 PM »


    <I KNOW THIS ISN'T A COMPLETE POST YET, I'M WORKING ON IT>

    I got some pics (mostly in-game) of problems with various models from the Battle Royale Pack...
    Feel free to use them, jokekid...

    Be warned, the spoilers are image heavy...

    Cole:
    Lots of holes...
    His backpack's Amp holster can be seen through:
    His torso has holes near the backpack:
    Many, many holes around the waist area and notice the deformation just below the hip:
    Then some rigging issues...
    Notice how his back is bent like he's origami:


    Nathan Drake:
    This is one of the ones I was overjoyed about the most...but I've had a hard time finding an angle of him that hasn't had rigging problems or holes...



    Raiden:
    This one was one of the better ones that I tried, but it still was pretty bad...

    There's a hole in his left hand (and I'm pretty sure the fingers aren't rigged to the bones)




    That Raiden wasnt ready for realease XD
    i posted the wrong one XD
    you can download the new one now just fixed it XD

    cole was a very old model and yeah definitely noticed all the holes on him but it was one of my first rigs XD so yeah will definitely revamp him

    and yeah nathan drake i had to proptimize him so much so there are holes on him :/

    and this is jokekids topic not yours O_o
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    « Reply #12 on: October 20, 2012, 08:56:21 PM »


    this is jokekids topic not yours O_o
    Thanks for informing me, but I was well aware. I was giving him pictures to save him time...
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    « Reply #13 on: October 21, 2012, 04:02:57 AM »


    well, anyone feel free to give feedback here, as long as it's related to the one i've recently reviewed, and the bone alignement is that the arm bones aren't inside the model's arms...
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    « Reply #14 on: October 24, 2012, 08:16:50 AM »


    stream anyone?
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