I didn't expect a lot of criticism lol. yea i was joking on the controller part. shoulda thrown a lol in there or something.
Really? 'cause it just sounds you're trying to do damage control.
the main point I was trying to make guys is that I saw Nintendo make its turn into the next generation of consoles and I didn't like its direction. I liked what it was before.
Yeah I think we've established that you don't like change, already.
I'm not the only one that thinks it, (maybe, the only one of these forums from above evidence) but mods allowing me to customize brawl gave me a better feel for what I was looking for in this game. More fun.
If you had to mod a game to make it fun, then I'm sorry, but you're looking at modding wrong.
The point of modding is to make an already fun game even more fun. Not try to add fun to an unfun game (which last I checked, Brawl is not unfun).
The truth is, there's no guarantee Smash 4 is gonna be all it's hyped up to be when it hasn't even been released. I think its best to keep modding brawl in this community until we're sure that there is something better out there.
But there's no guarantee it's going to suck, either. So, I dunno, maybe you should WAIT until a couple years after its release to make any actual judgement.
And even if there is "something better out there", what makes you think people are just going to stop modding to move to that "something better"? 'cause I'm pretty sure people haven't moved away from their modding communities just because there was "something better".
Even if Smash 4 is worth more attention, I'm sure the Brawl hacking community won't burst into flames. I know ppl who bought Brawl but stopped playing it after the first year out of preference for Melee.
...of course it won't.
Also, I don't see where the whole "people stopped playing because ILUVMELEE<3" thing came from. That wasn't even part of any discussion.
I pretty much summed it up in that word block up there^^
...you don't understand sarcasm, do you.
That's respectable. I'd say I'm doing the same cuz the only thing I've seen that I've wanted was Pikmin 2.
...what I was saying is that there are games out there that are good WITHOUT having been developed by Nintendo. Broaden your horizons a little.
...I think Melee's a classic.... it's honestly hard for me comprehend that ppl are contradicting me on that.
It's... not really a contradiction if there's a good number of people saying it's not a classic and only one person saying it is.
I grew up with Melee. It's my favorite fighting game...
*Party Fighter
I loved Melee V2 cuz I felt it took skill, like Melee.
I’m pretty sure that Brawl has a comp. scene, and I’m also pretty sure that also takes skill.
I honestly didn't care much for Brawl with time. I was great at it though. I was a Game & Watch main and won 2 tournaments.
Didn’t you just imply Brawl didn’t take skill? Mixed signals here, chump.
But, when I played it with my friend with whom I was equally skilled, all I would hear is him complaining about how over-powered and spontaneous Game & Watch was.
Yeah, I’m going to call bull[censored] on your “equal skill” claim. There’s no such thing. Even if the both of you had the EXACT same skills (and I mean to the point of your friend being
an exact clone of you), it doesn’t mean anything if you’re playing different characters.
That Brawl's different design allowed for certain characters to be more advantageous and Brawl was less strategic fighting and more exploitation of specific moves with high knockback and large hitboxes.
Wasn’t uh… wasn’t wavedashing an exploit? Wasn’t shuffling an exploit?
What I’m getting from this is that exploits are only good if they’re from Melee (quelle surprise).
And, to an extent, he was right. Brawl WAS different.
NO.
MY GOD, THE HORROR. A game not having a direct sequel when it wasn’t meant to have a direct sequel.
I'd have a lot harder of a time beating him in melee. If ppl kept attributing my winnings to the fact that I used "overpowered" characters- then the game just wasn't fun.
You… do realize that, if your claim to be that skillful is true, then it doesn’t matter what character you play as, because it’ll always be “overpowered”?
Eventually, my friends would only play if it was 2 against me or me and some guy/girl that lacks skill against 2 normal brawl players.
What is considered “normal”, anyway? Because some people think normal is not having skill.
Oh, wait, did you get normal Brawl players to play Melee against you and a guy that sucked at Melee?
I liked Project:M cuz it leveled the playing field to that of melee's quick thinking, combos, and strategy. It made the game more of what it used to be competitively and that's why I said it conjured a classic feel.
Nevermind the fact Sakurai wanted Brawl to steer AWAY from the competitiveness, but who gives a [censored] am I right?
Also, I knew about Brawl hacking long before Melee V2. I remember Elite Smash Hackers making Lucas look like Jimmy Neutron and freaking out. I know the customization was a great aspect of Brawl hacking-
I… wasn’t serious. Or at least not as serious as you’re making it out to be.
What I meant is that there are people around here that think SSBM V2 was what created Brawl hacking. Yes, there are people that stupid.
but I don't feel its as much of a reason to downgrade from Smash 4 as a complete transformation such as Melee V2 is.
Oh, yeah, not that big a reason, let’s just play a mod that downgrades the gameplay style to Melee instead, THAT MAKES SENSE.
What I say is easy enough to understand and I stand by it. I feel like online ranking is a bad concept in general- something ppl will either not care about or care too much about by making their focus having a higher rank- not having fun.
Oh yeah, because it's so hard to understand "it happens in every [censored]ing game with online". Except, y'know, it doesn't matter at all, and the people who care are only looking to get viagra for their E-Penis.
Maybe this is just me- but I think Brawl is the best Smash to fall back on. Why? Because this community's made it Play-doh.
Yeah that’s not biased at all, nevermind the fact I was talking overall. You ARE aware that there might be people not into hacking at all?
This game can be the most of what u want it to be- unless u want a graphics downgrade...
…what does graphical downgrades have to do with anything?
Seriously, where did this come from?
and nostalgia isn't my first priority with a multiplayer game.
…what.
Just… what.
Okay, wait a tic. Nostalgia isn’t your first priority, right? These quotes by you say otherwise:
...I think Melee's a classic.... it's honestly hard for me comprehend that ppl are contradicting me on that.
I liked Project:M cuz it leveled the playing field to that of melee's quick thinking, combos, and strategy. It made the game more of what it used to be competitively and that's why I said it conjured a classic feel.
…yeah, I’d say you’re contradicting yourself. Again.
I, personally, like graphics to be the best they can be and that's another one of the many reasons I prefer Project:M to Melee.
…if you like graphics to be their best, WHY aren’t you going to play Smash 4?
And lastly, I said "might". Twice. I was just trying to be hopeful.
Saying “might” implies you have ANY evidence that it is the case.
Even if the filetypes were the same, what’s stopping them from adding brand new encryptions?
This is so long and random I feel like those guys that post unnecessary youtube comments.
yeah bro lol answering to things in a post such random le topkek
This has nothing to do with YT. That’s gotta be one of the most faulty comparisons yet.
I don't think the Smash franchises releases are something worth getting hyped about anymore. I'm not the only one...
Actually… considering that pretty much everyone in here has high hopes and expectations for Smash 4, you ARE the only one with that ass-backwards mentality.
Thought I was done? Oh no, that was just the rainy foreboding to the grand [censored]storm I’m about to brew on you.
Okay, they went from a beautiful controller that everyone got used to to 2 remote motion sensor pieces and then a remote tablet.
Everyone got used to the N64 controller too, y’know, broken joysticks be damned.
Hm. I think I'll just stick to what makes the most sense and is the most convenient.
You mean the peripheral that’s been officially killed off and won’t be getting support?
I feel like they changed so much for not enough reasons. It was overall better the way it was.
Nintendo’s motto is “Innovation”.
Your motto is “They’ve Changed It, Now It Sucks”.
You can give something a fresh and new style without "fixing" a bunch of things that aren't even broken.
But then it’s not giving a “fresh and new” style, it’s just recoloring the original device.
Why put so much effort into making a game console compatible with a certain real world conflict?
Real World conflict?
What, is Nintendo making the Wii U more accessible to those people at war in the Ukraine?
First, you could get a new TV. The best solution- obviously expensive but ppl with extra money would rather get a new tv for a great console than keep one tv for a console with a weird design.
Have you considered there might be people who could barely afford a Wii U alone? People who don’t even have money for a brand new TV, so they play it on their old CRT? People who don’t even have a room of their own?
While cheaper, they wouldn't enjoy the console as much so is the price saving worth?
Do the games just suddenly change when they get to the tablet itself?
No. Smaller resolution doesn’t mean the game is less enjoyable, just because WAAAAAH I CAN’T PLAY ON MY TV.
Second, just patience. Video games aren't our only means of recreation. Sure we love them, but that doesn't mean we should compromise a good design to play it 24/7...
Yeah, Nintendo should’ve just kept itself to making playing cards.
I don’t know how the Wii U was compromised, but whatever.
Also, why compartmentalize console games, when Nintendo has such a large line of portable games in the first place. I just don't get it.
Yeah, am I right? Because that totally wouldn’t backfire or anything.
Oh, hi PSP.
Games started on consoles, so it’s merely common sense that they’re “compartmentalizing” console games.
My problem wasn't with the controllers.
Uh… huh.
Wii U's don't have Gamecube Controller compatability, right? I don't want that game then.
Okay, they went from a beautiful controller that everyone got used to to 2 remote motion sensor pieces and then a remote tablet.
I feel like they changed so much for not enough reasons. It was overall better the way it was.
Totally wasn’t with the controllers.
The reason I brought it up in the first place is because it made for a good example for how wonky Nintendo's design has gotten.
While I WILL agree that Nintendo could stand to be a bit more consistent with their controllers – and it’s going to be the ONLY thing you and I will likely agree on – their controllers REALLY aren’t as bad as you’re making them out to be.
Never knew about the pro controller though.
…really?
(…)like Carnage said, you can just get an adaptor to get your GCN controller working on the Wii U, instead of - perish the thought – using the UPro Controller.
This didn’t hint you at it?
Seriously, the Wii U was released in 2012. You’re telling me that in TWO YEARS you’ve NEVER heard of the WiiU Pro Controller?
Man, I think Google-Fu is starting to become like a superpower only those with common sense can access.
If it doesn't come up to a ridiculous amount of money to get the console, game, and make my Wii U's design revolve around Smash, I'll consider buying it. If so, hacked brawl is only a few steps down imo.
The Wii U basic pack should be roughly 299$, the deluxe is 349$. Taking into account that the possibility of Smash 4 being bundled up with the Wii U this coming winter is moderately high, and if you save your dosh just right, you can have it proper.
JFC that was a lot.
