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    « Reply #6060 on: May 24, 2015, 05:57:49 AM »


    the smash4/3 samus looks kinda like plastic instead of metal :/

    other than that, great work
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    « Reply #6061 on: May 24, 2015, 10:23:19 AM »


    Those look absolutely amazing SJS! Cheesy

    And thanks a lot for doing Shadow Dragon Marth!

    Can't wait to see how good Jigglypuff's CSPs are going to look! Smiley
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    « Reply #6062 on: May 24, 2015, 11:19:58 AM »


    This isn't exactly a request, but I want you to look into a few things SJS.

    A lot of your older poses, look better than the newer ones. For example let's look at Toon Link.

    - Old Set 3
    - Old Set 2

    Old Set 2 (in my opinion) looks cleaner. It might be the original pose (with all of the items he's holding, stressing he has a lot of equipment), but Old Set 3 didn't edit the color of Toon Link it just added some fancy lighting to it. So if you took the render of Old Set 2, and edit it how you edited Old Set 3 it would look much nicer.

    Kirby is something you did right though with your newer version, you removed unnecessary lighting.

    Roy however, is the exact opposite.

    - Old Set 4
    - Current

    The problem about this is the unnecessary lighting on the hair. The Old Set 4 version however more dignifies his hair, the ugly thing about Old Set 4 (and most likely the reason you made a new one) was the colors. So if you grab the colors from the Current one and put them onto Old Set 4 it would look cleaner in the end. (And then fixing the hair shape afterward.)

    Sorry for the rant, I just felt like I had to make a point. Hopefully you take all of these points into consideration.
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    « Reply #6063 on: May 24, 2015, 11:38:37 AM »


    This isn't exactly a request, but I want you to look into a few things SJS.

    A lot of your older poses, look better than the newer ones. For example let's look at Toon Link.

    - Old Set 3
    - Old Set 2

    Old Set 2 (in my opinion) looks cleaner. It might be the original pose (with all of the items he's holding, stressing he has a lot of equipment), but Old Set 3 didn't edit the color of Toon Link it just added some fancy lighting to it. So if you took the render of Old Set 2, and edit it how you edited Old Set 3 it would look much nicer.

    Kirby is something you did right though with your newer version, you removed unnecessary lighting.

    Roy however, is the exact opposite.

    - Old Set 4
    - Current

    The problem about this is the unnecessary lighting on the hair. The Old Set 4 version however more dignifies his hair, the ugly thing about Old Set 4 (and most likely the reason you made a new one) was the colors. So if you grab the colors from the Current one and put them onto Old Set 4 it would look cleaner in the end. (And then fixing the hair shape afterward.)

    Sorry for the rant, I just felt like I had to make a point. Hopefully you take all of these points into consideration.

    I feel the old Toon Link's CSPs were too busy for the CSS. Too many things are in his CSP. The CSP is about what the character looks like, not what they do. So to implement the old Toon Link, kind of strays away from the purpose of a CSP.

    I could see the gripe about Roy's CSPs, but IMHO they look a lot cleaner now.
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    « Reply #6064 on: May 24, 2015, 12:07:24 PM »



    I feel the old Toon Link's CSPs were too busy for the CSS. Too many things are in his CSP. The CSP is about what the character looks like, not what they do. So to implement the old Toon Link, kind of strays away from the purpose of a CSP.

    I could see the gripe about Roy's CSPs, but IMHO they look a lot cleaner now.

    Well the thing about the old Toon Link was it stuck out. Which was really nice.

    And about Roy, that's why I brought up grabbing the colors from new Roy, to old Roy.
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    « Reply #6065 on: May 24, 2015, 01:17:02 PM »


    Great job as always, SJS! I'd like to request Robin over Marth. Would you mind making CSPs for both Marth's and Roy's poses with it? Thank you!

    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206212
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    « Reply #6066 on: May 24, 2015, 02:54:50 PM »


    I have Mario requests! I made these myself, and I had to do a lot to make them work...

    http://www.mediafire.com/download/0m9ib09095vf4ed/Mario+Requests+%28Smash+Masters+Mario%29.zip
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    « Reply #6067 on: May 24, 2015, 03:28:09 PM »


    the smash4/3 samus looks kinda like plastic instead of metal :/

    other than that, great work

    Yeah, might fix them at a later date. I was too lazy to adjust the material I use for Samus.

    This isn't exactly a request, but I want you to look into a few things SJS.

    A lot of your older poses, look better than the newer ones. For example let's look at Toon Link.

    - Old Set 3
    - Old Set 2

    Old Set 2 (in my opinion) looks cleaner. It might be the original pose (with all of the items he's holding, stressing he has a lot of equipment), but Old Set 3 didn't edit the color of Toon Link it just added some fancy lighting to it. So if you took the render of Old Set 2, and edit it how you edited Old Set 3 it would look much nicer.

    Kirby is something you did right though with your newer version, you removed unnecessary lighting.

    Roy however, is the exact opposite.

    - Old Set 4
    - Current

    The problem about this is the unnecessary lighting on the hair. The Old Set 4 version however more dignifies his hair, the ugly thing about Old Set 4 (and most likely the reason you made a new one) was the colors. So if you grab the colors from the Current one and put them onto Old Set 4 it would look cleaner in the end. (And then fixing the hair shape afterward.)

    Sorry for the rant, I just felt like I had to make a point. Hopefully you take all of these points into consideration.


    I sort of see what you're saying, but I have no plans to adjust any of the current CSPs in such a way. The new CSPs are lit by a rendering program only. whereas the old CSPs were rendered in BrawlBox with lighting added in Photoshop. Making minor lighting adjustments in Photoshop for every new CSP on top of setting up the render would take way too much time, especially when dealing with dozens of requests. I'm not trying to achieve perfection by any definition of the word. Especially when that "perfection" is bound to be destroyed by compression when inserting these CSPs in-game.

    As for Toon Link, that pose would never work in the modern Brawl hacking scene that's full of model imports. That's something I have to take in consideration, which is why most of the newer poses aren't as action-y or dramatic.
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    « Reply #6068 on: May 24, 2015, 03:41:48 PM »


    Suburb work as always SJS, only thing I want to say is I hope you include the Mars, Maritime, and Minty costumes when you make these new versions, as their colors as so fantastic. 

    But keep it up my friend, it looks wonderful! Cheesy
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    « Reply #6069 on: May 24, 2015, 03:45:47 PM »


    I sort of see what you're saying, but I have no plans to adjust any of the current CSPs in such a way. The new CSPs are lit by a rendering program only. whereas the old CSPs were rendered in BrawlBox with lighting added in Photoshop. Making minor lighting adjustments in Photoshop for every new CSP on top of setting up the render would take way too much time, especially when dealing with dozens of requests. I'm not trying to achieve perfection by any definition of the word. Especially when that "perfection" is bound to be destroyed by compression when inserting these CSPs in-game.

    As for Toon Link, that pose would never work in the modern Brawl hacking scene that's full of model imports. That's something I have to take in consideration, which is why most of the newer poses aren't as action-y or dramatic.

    Can we continue this conversation on Skype?

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    « Reply #6070 on: May 25, 2015, 03:06:01 AM »


    I request some for Charizard
    Dry Charizard https://www.dropbox.com/s/xtxsy23y7sl8rep/Dry%20Lizardon.zip
    Also I would like to request Charmander and Charmeleon from Nanobuds. Everytime I click the link I just download the rar Sad
    So here's the url to Nanobuds vault http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=7925&Moderated=All
    I found these on page 4. Sorry i couldn't get the link i was supposed to get.
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    « Reply #6071 on: May 25, 2015, 07:36:15 PM »


    Look under the title of the charmander and charmeleon mods, click the link face, and it brings you to a page with only it and you can use that link.
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    « Reply #6072 on: May 25, 2015, 08:22:14 PM »


    Can I have Link Old Set 4 for My Custom Links (If I Upload these to the vault, do i have premission to upload with CSPs?):
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/axsc64dou7vaejo/AABetmOYQKEN1vREwDC87GfJa?dl=0
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    Im a fairly new hacker here on the vault. Csp, texture, Css, sss, battle portraits, i will take requests for those. (once in a while stage editor parts)

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    « Reply #6073 on: May 26, 2015, 02:28:13 AM »


    Here are some requests.

    Jigglypuff:
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208222
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=206903
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=36414
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33638

    Mario:
    http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33190
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mfbiilpm5n8cbv7/Ys72WHwjzS
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c19b7j9gm3zyf8m/Zf2NJPg4to
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1azpqf16dw13so6/FONP2XZF57
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    « Reply #6074 on: May 26, 2015, 01:44:53 PM »


    Look under the title of the charmander and charmeleon mods, click the link face, and it brings you to a page with only it and you can use that link.

    Thank you!
    well here's the links for them then
    Charmeleon: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27181
    Charmander: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26923
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