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    « on: June 08, 2010, 02:41:22 PM »


    YEAH YEAH ITS "PLAGARIZED" KK

    Just tryin to make it easier for people who have no experience. Also Mariokart's video didn't explain how to do the raw vertex edit method like this does. YEAH YEAH THERES KCMM VIDEOS ON THAT TOO I KNOW

    Just trying to help out here.

    Anyway.....

    So, you wanna edit vertices? I have to admit that I'm no master, but I have at least enough knowledge to

    make this guide. This guide will also help you people still using that meathod of just editing raw

    vertices (Just editing the blue dots floating in space....ungh!) Well first off, I better give you a few

    links. I am assuming you already have Brawlbox installed. If you dont........go get it right now!

    DAS DONKEY BOX: (You really, really need this. Alot.)

    http://cid-c59ea3c98a300f31.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Programs/DasDonkey%20Box%20v1.0.zip

    AiS: (You need this if you wanna edit DAE files, which I'll explain later. Not required, but

    recommended.) http://cid-c59ea3c98a300f31.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/.Public/Programs/ais0.1.3.zip

    3DS Max: It would be best if you could find a 2009 version, as thats what I use and the changes in some

    versions of max are very different. 2008 and 2010 should work fine too. This program costs money, though,

    unless you know of a fun little thing called P2P........ Evil

    COLLADA plugin for 3DS Max: (You need this for DAE. Again, not required, but STRONGLY reccomended.)

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladamaya/files/COLLADAMax%201.4.1%20plug-ins/ColladaMax_FREE_3.05C.exe

    /ColladaMax_FREE_3.05C.exe/download

    Now, before we get started, you need to add a code to 3ds max. If you're new to the program, here's how:

    1. Click on the Maxscript button on the top of 3ds max
    2. Click new script
    3. Copypasta the script I'm about to give you
    4. Save and run the script

    This code was created by Mariokart64n as well as the meathod I will be teaching you. It is only requried

    if you are going to edit DAEs.
    Code:
    fn readBEshort fstream = (
    short = readshort fstream #unsigned
    short = bit.swapBytes short 1 2
    return short
    )
    fn readBElong fstream = (
    long = readlong fstream
    long = bit.swapBytes long 1 4
    long = bit.swapBytes long 2 3
    return long
    )
    fn ReadBEfloat fstream = (
    return floatSwap2(readfloat fstream)
    )
    fn floatSwap2 f = (
    i = bit.floatAsInt f
    h = bit.intashex i
    while h.count < 8 do h = "0" + h
    s = (substring h 7 2) + (substring h 5 2) + (substring h 3 2) + (substring h 1 2)
    bit.intAsFloat (bit.hexasint s)
    )

    rollout DDV "Vertex Modding Patcher" width:320 height:270
    (
    button btn1 "Import Verts" pos:[8,16] width:144 height:40
    button btn2 "Create Patch" pos:[8,112] width:144 height:40
    button btn3 "Patch Model" pos:[8,160] width:144 height:40
    groupBox grp1 "Description" pos:[160,8] width:143 height:48
    label lbl1 "Imports a RAW VertexSet from BrawlBox." pos:[169,21] width:128 height:30
    groupBox grp2 "Description" pos:[160,152] width:143 height:48
    label lbl2 "Patches finished model, for use with DDV" pos:[169,165] width:128 height:30
    groupBox grp3 "Description" pos:[160,104] width:143 height:48
    label lbl3 "Creates a Patch File from the RAW and Imported File" pos:[169,117] width:131

    height:30
    label lbl4 "-Mario_Kart64n, (June3, 2010)" pos:[164,253] width:156 height:18
    button btn4 "Fix AiS Import" pos:[8,208] width:144 height:40
    groupBox grp5 "Description" pos:[160,200] width:143 height:48
    label lbl5 "Removes Collada Lib From Imported mesh" pos:[169,213] width:128 height:30
    checkbox chk1 "Checkbox" pos:[10,250] width:14 height:13
    label lbl7 "Max2010" pos:[27,249] width:45 height:15
    button btn5 "Export Verts" pos:[8,64] width:144 height:40
    checkbox chk2 "Checkbox" pos:[159,68] width:14 height:13 enabled:false checked:false
    label lbl8 "Save As Seperate File" pos:[176,67] width:119 height:15
    checkbox chk3 "Checkbox" pos:[159,84] width:14 height:13 enabled:false checked:false
    label lbl9 "Save Changes to MDL0" pos:[176,83] width:119 height:15

    on btn1 pressed do(
    fsource = GetOpenFileName \
    caption:"Brawl Vert Import" types: \
    "All files (*.*)|*.*|"
    f= fopen fsource "rb"
    fpath= getFilenamePath fsource
    fname = getFilenameFile fsource

    vertArray=#()
    uvwArray=#()
    faceArray=#()

    fSize=readBElong f
    mdlOffset=readBElong f
    dataOffset=readBElong f
    strOffset=readBElong f
    vertID=readBElong f
    vUkn1=readBElong f --flag? is XYZ?
    dataType=readBElong f
    entryStride=readBEshort f
    numVertices=readBEshort f
    eMinX=readBEfloat f
    eMinY=readBEfloat f
    eMinZ=readBEfloat f
    eMaxX=readBEfloat f
    eMaxY=readBEfloat f
    eMaxZ=readBEfloat f
    pad=readBElong f
    pad=readBElong f


    for x = 1 to numVertices do(
    vX=readBEfloat f
    vY=readBEfloat f
    vZ=readBEfloat f
    append vertArray[vX,vY,vZ]
    append uvwArray[0,0,0]
    )

    -- fclose f
    -- fsource = GetOpenFileName \
    -- caption:"Brawl Polygon Import" types: \
    -- "All files (*.*)|*.*|"
    -- f= fopen fsource "rb"
    --
    -- fSize=readBElong f
    -- mdlOffset=readBElong f
    -- nodeID=readBElong f
    -- pfUkn1=readBElong f

    -- elementFlag=readBElong f
    -- pfUkn2=readBElong f --count for weird data
    -- defSize=readBElong f
    -- defFlags=readBElong f

    -- defOffset=readBElong f
    -- datalen1=readBElong f
    -- datalen2=readBElong f
    -- dataOffset=readBElong f

    -- pfUkn3=readBElong f
    -- pfUkn4=readBElong f
    -- strOffset=readBElong f
    -- itmOffset=readBElong f

    -- pfUkn5=readBElong f
    -- numFaces=readBElong f
    -- vertSet=readBEshort f
    -- normSet=readBEshort f

    -- partXOffset=readBEshort f --???

    -- if vertID!=vertSet then(
    -- MessageBox(
    -- "WARRNING!!!" +"\n"+
    -- "Incorrect Index Buffer" +"\n"+
    -- "-Sorry (mariokart64n)")
    -- )else(
    -- fseek pf 0x111 #seek_cur
    -- for x = 1 to pfUkn2 do (
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- )
    -- )
    --
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned

    -- ukn=readBEshort f
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readBEshort f

    -- ukn=readBEshort f
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned
    -- ukn=readbyte f #unsigned

    -- ukn=readBEshort f

    -- end of file is a loop of data
    -- 27bytes long per loop
    --












    msh = mesh vertices:vertArray faces:faceArray   --build mesh
    msh.numTVerts = vertArray.count
    msh.name=fname
    --msh.rotation = quat -0.5 0.5 -0.5 0.5
    --msh.rotation = quat 0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5
    --msh.scale = [0.3937008,0.3937008,0.3937008]
    buildTVfaces msh
    -- modPanel.setCurrentObject $Object01.baseObject
    -- subobjectLevel = 1
    -- rotate $Object01.verts[#{1..580}] (quat 0.707107 0 0 0.707107)
    -- subobjectLevel = 0
    -- for j = 1 to UV_array.count  do setTVert msh j UV_array[j]
    -- for j = 1 to faceArray.count  do setTface msh j faceArray[j]
    -- for j = 1 to Normal_array.count do setNormal msh j Normal_array[j]

     messageBox "Done !"
     
     
    gc()
    fclose f
    )

    on btn2 pressed do(
    fsource = GetOpenFileName \
    caption:"Brawl Vert Import" types: \
    "All files (*.*)|*.*|"
    f= fopen fsource "rb"
    fpath= getFilenamePath fsource
    fname = getFilenameFile fsource

    vertArray=#()
    uvwArray=#()
    faceArray=#()

    fSize=readBElong f
    mdlOffset=readBElong f
    dataOffset=readBElong f
    strOffset=readBElong f
    vertID=readBElong f
    vUkn1=readBElong f --flag? is XYZ?
    dataType=readBElong f
    entryStride=readBEshort f
    numVertices=readBEshort f
    eMinX=readBEfloat f
    eMinY=readBEfloat f
    eMinZ=readBEfloat f
    eMaxX=readBEfloat f
    eMaxY=readBEfloat f
    eMaxZ=readBEfloat f
    pad=readBElong f
    pad=readBElong f

    for x = 1 to numVertices do(
    vX=readBEfloat f
    vY=readBEfloat f
    vZ=readBEfloat f
    append vertArray[vX,vY,vZ]
    append uvwArray[0,0,0]
    )

    obj=getCurrentSelection()
    obj.pos = [0,0,0]
    obj.rotation = quat 0 0 0 0
    max modify mode
    addModifier obj (edit_poly())
    subobjectLevel = 1
    -- modPanel.setCurrentObject obj.modifiers[#Edit_Poly]
    diffArray=#()
    directionArray=#()
    for x = 1 to numVertices do(
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetSelection #Vertex #{}
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].Select #Vertex #{x}
    vert=$.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].GetVertex x
    -- $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetOperation #Transform


    mX=(vertArray[x][1])-(vert[1])
    mY=(vertArray[x][2])-(vert[2])
    mZ=(vertArray[x][3])-(vert[3])



    append diffArray[mX,mY,mZ]
    -- $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].Commit ()
    -- $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetSelection #Vertex #{}
    )
    -- subobjectLevel = 0
    -- modPanel.setCurrentObject obj.modifiers[#Edit_Poly]
    deleteModifier obj 1

    createFile (fpath+fname+"_patch.pta")
    s = fopen (fpath+fname+"_patch.pta") "ab"
    vcount=writelong s numVertices
     for x = 1 to numVertices do(
    write=writefloat s (diffArray[x][1])
    write=writefloat s (diffArray[x][2])
    write=writefloat s (diffArray[x][3])
    write=writelong s 0x0
     )
     
     messageBox ("Patch Created !"  +"\n"+
    "\n"+
    "File Saved To:"  +"\n"+
    (fpath+fname+"_patch.pta")
    )

    gc()
    fclose s
    fclose f
    )

    on btn3 pressed do(
    fsource = GetOpenFileName \
    caption:"Brawl Vert Patcher" types: \
    "Patch(*pta)|*.pta|All files (*.*)|*.*|"
    f= fopen fsource "rb"
    fpath= getFilenamePath fsource

    vertArray=#()
    vcount=readlong f #unsigned
    for x = 1 to vcount do(
    vX=readfloat f
    vY=readfloat f
    vZ=readfloat f
    dmy=readshort f #unsigned
    side=readshort f #unsigned
    append vertArray[vX,vY,vZ,side]
    )

    obj=getCurrentSelection()
    obj.pos = [0,0,0]
    obj.rotation = quat 0 0 0 0
    max modify mode
    addModifier obj (edit_poly())
    subobjectLevel = 1
    --modPanel.setCurrentObject obj.modifiers[#Edit_Poly]
    for x = 1 to vcount do(
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetSelection #Vertex #{}
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].Select #Vertex #{x}
    vert=$.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].GetVertex x
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetOperation #Transform
    mX=(vertArray[x][1])
    mY=(vertArray[x][2])
    mZ=(vertArray[x][3])
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].MoveSelection  [mX,mY,mZ]
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].Commit ()
    $.modifiers[#Edit_Poly].SetSelection #Vertex #{}
    )
    subobjectLevel = 0
    --modPanel.setCurrentObject obj.modifiers[#Edit_Poly]

    messageBox "Patched !"

    gc()
    fclose f
    )

    on btn4 pressed do(
    -- obj = getnodebyname "Box01"
    -- if obj != undefined then select obj

    -- select $Polygon*
    -- select $helpers

    disableSceneRedraw()
    st = timestamp() --get start time in milliseconds
    undo off(
    geo=$polygon*
    -- print geo
    for x = 1 to geo.count do(
    addModifier geo[x] (Normalmodifier ())
    geo[x].modifiers[#Normal].flip = on
    addModifier geo[x] (smooth ())
    geo[x].modifiers[#Smooth].smoothingBits = 1
    collapseStack geo[x]
    m2010=chk1.checked
    if m2010==true do(
    --rotate geo[x] (quat -1 0 0 0)
    geo[x].scale = [2.54,2.54,2.54]
    )
    )
    delete $helpers
    for x = 1 to geo.count do(
    -- aBox = Box length:0.2 width:0.2 height:0.2 name:"dummy"
    aBox = Box()
    aBox.rotation = quat 0.707107 0 0 0.707107
    convertTo aBox TriMeshGeometry
    )
    dmy=$Box*
    myBoxes=#()
    myMeshes=#()
    for x = 1 to geo.count do(
    objA= dmy[x]
    objB= geo[x]
    append myBoxes objA
    append myMeshes objB
    )

    for x = 1 to geo.count do(
    myBoxes[x].name = myMeshes[x].name
    attach myBoxes[x] myMeshes[x]
    )

    for x = 1 to geo.count do(
    for i = 1 to 8 do(
    delete geo[x].verts[#{1}]
    )
    addModifier geo[x] (Morpher ())
    )

    addModifier $Polygon* (Edit_Mesh ())

    )
    et = timestamp() --get end time in milliseconds
    enableSceneRedraw()
    gc()
    print ("Operation Completed In: "+(((et-st)/60)as string)+" Seconds") --print time to finish
    )
    )

    createDialog DDV

    Ok, one last thing before the tutorial starts. I wanna show you waht DAE editing is and what raw vertex

    editing is.

    Here's editing raw vertices:


    And here's editing DAEs:


    Yeeeeah, kinda easy to tell which one's easier to edit, amirite? However, DAE does require more

    converting work but in the end it saves a lot of time. But sometimes, this meathod doesn't work.  And raw

    vertexes aren't THAT hard to work with if you're working with something obvious, such as Yoshi's shell,

    and its faster. So first I'll go over raw vertex editing, as DAE builds upon it.

    Ok, first you gotta find what polygon you're going to edit. In this example, we're going to make Yoshi's

    shoes bigger.

    Go to brawbox and preview Yoshi's model. Turn off polygons until you find the one that includes his

    shoes. It's polygon 2. Now look in Yoshi's folders in brawlbox until you find polygon 2. Now scroll down

    to the bottom of that window to find the vertex ID. It's 2 as well, but they wont always match. Now find

     the vertex with the ID of 2, and export it to the folder where dasdonkey box is, and name it vertex.ddf.

    Now export the model file to the same place, naming it model.mdl0. Run dasdonkeybox and click create 3DS.

    A 3ds file will appear and now you can import (Yes, IMPORT, not OPEN) it into 3ds max and edit it! If

    you're new to 3ds, here's the basic way to edit them.

    Here's what you get when you import: A big fat load of NOTHING!


    Click this....


    Then this....


    And you should see something like this!


    Now, how to edit stuff. Highlight vertices and then right click. You can choose between 3 types of

    editing, move, scale and rotate. When you click on any of them, they give you can click on the

    mini-axises that appear to make changes in one direction, or move them freely. For example, when you

    choose scale, you can drag on the mini-x axis to stretch it on the X axis, or click in the triangle that

    appears to enlarge it in all directions.

    When you are done, click on file>export (NOT save) and save over the ddv.3ds that 3ds originally created.

    Now go to dasdonkeybox and click on "insert 3ds on mld0". It will ask you for an offset. Go to brawlbox,

    and look at the vertex data for what you just edited. There will be a mld0 offset there, copy it. The one

    for Yoshi's feet and head is -168960. (The - sign doesnt really matter, so if you dont copy it, dont

    worry about it.) Now go to brawlbox and replace Yoshi's model with  model.mld0. Ta-da! The changes you

    made should now be there.

    Ok, time for DAE. First, install AiS. To do so, run the install.bat file in the 3ds download. If that

    doesn't work, copy everything in it and paste it in C:\Program Files\ais0.1.3. (Create the folder.) Now,

    follow the original steps - export model.mdl0 and vertex.ddf. Now, export the brres file for Yoshi's

    model. It doesnt matter what you name this one, but save it in the dasdonkey folder. Now go to that

    folder, right click on the model data, and click convert to DAE. Great, now you're set. Import that DAE

    into 3ds as a COLLADA, NOT as an autodesk DAE.

    This one.


    You should get an ugly looking character.

    Blargh.


    Ok, remember that script? Run it. Then click on THIS button:


    And you should get this.


    Much better! By the way, make sure you check the Max10 button if you're using Max 10. Yeah, kinda

    obvious.
    Now, click on the polygon you wanna edit (In this case his feet) and right click it and click hide

    unselected. Now go to the script program, and click THIS:


    Now navigate to your dasdonkey folder and double click vertex.ddf. Wait a bit, and it should say patch

    created. If it gives you an error, close the script and reopen it and try again (But dont reclick fix AiS

    import). After you click Ok, it puts the model on its back. Go to where you turned on the vertices in the

    raw meathod, and.....

    Bam!


    Much easier editing.

    Now edit to your liking. Like I said, I'm going to make his shoes bigger.

    There we go.


    Now open the script again, and click on patch model. Go to the dasdonkey folder and click on

    vertex_Patch.pta. (It should be the only one there.) Now this part can take a while, so go to the

    bathroom or get a snack while you wait.

    Ok, when it patches, you should get something like this.



    OH CRAP! Did it mess up? Nope, thats whats supposed to happen, dont worry! Now, if you havent already, go

    to dasdonkey and make the 3ds file. Now import it into 3ds max. You dont really even have to turn on the

    vertex thingy. Just make sure you're selected on the vertex and click here.....



    And select morpher from that list. Now, on the thing that appeared on the side, RIGHT click here...


    and click pick from scene. Now click on the model thingy and then click on the arrow next to the box you

    right clicked on and move your mouse up until it reaches 100. Now go to file>export selected (MAKE SURE

    IT SAYS EXPORT SELECTED) and export over the DDV.3ds. Now follow the rest of the steps in the raw vertex

    meathod. Check it out in brawlbox.

    Bigger is better!


    However, we can see a problem - one of the feet got messed up! To fix this, we "double patch". To do

    this, export the brres file again and convert to DAE again and then patch it in 3ds again and then import

    the vertex again and morph it again and export again.....and then it should look fine.

    So, any questions? Please post them and I'll do my very best to answer them. If there's anything vertex

    related you want me to add to this guide, let me know aswell!

    Video with some more stuff:
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIK3NUGQrfw" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIK3NUGQrfw</a>

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    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 02:58:46 PM »


    So your guide is just mariokarts guide but in none video form...
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    « Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 03:01:17 PM »


    So your guide is just mariokarts guide but in none video form...

    It's more noob friendly....?
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    « Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 03:02:00 PM »


    Plagiarism FTW
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    « Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 03:02:32 PM »


    So your guide is just mariokarts guide but in none video form...

    It's more noob friendly....?
    He's right this is harder and non easy to follow. Videos are better. Especially because Mariokart64n has a Sexy voice. *jk*
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    « Reply #5 on: June 08, 2010, 03:03:00 PM »


    Plagiarism FTW

    I said he created the method.....

    It was just sort of confusing for me at first so I thought it might be confusing to others....
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    « Reply #6 on: June 08, 2010, 03:03:35 PM »


    So your guide is just mariokarts guide but in none video form...

    It's more noob friendly....?
    He's right this is harder and non easy to follow. Videos are better. Especially because Mariokart64n has a Sexy voice. *jk*

    Maybe I'll add a video then. :/

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    « Reply #7 on: June 08, 2010, 03:04:11 PM »


    Doesn't mean its not Plagiarized.
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    « Reply #8 on: June 08, 2010, 03:20:27 PM »


    Doesn't mean its not Plagiarized.

    You are correct it is plagiarism, Yoshiboshi3. You made this guide with no point. Sorry but Mariokart64n's guide is easy. I just cannot do it because 3ds max does not co-operate.
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    « Reply #9 on: June 08, 2010, 03:26:50 PM »


    Doesn't mean its not Plagiarized.

    Ok fine. So you're saying I should delete this?
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    This is fail
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    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 11:03:13 PM »


    This is fail
    What was the point of that post?
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    « Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 10:36:27 AM »


    actually, Boshi. Yours is in a way easier. But maybe it would have been better if you made the tutorial post of yours on MK64n's thread, because it does say "Model hacking help" so I would think it could be a place to post what you know about vertex hacking and model hacking all in that thread. But... that is just mii. Great guide, NTL.
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    « Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 11:25:54 AM »


    Just might do that. Thanks for being helpful.
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    « Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 12:57:44 AM »


    Read it over quick, easier to understand, will try tomorrow
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