Title: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 19, 2010, 09:09:26 PM RandomTBush has succsesfully Imported Bill's Hat TF2 Into Brawl On Jigglypuff!
Quote from: From RandomTBush. This is from Smash Boards. Alright, if this doesn't prove that I understand the MDL0 format, I don't know what will. ([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-VeteranJiggly1.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-VeteranJiggly2.jpg[/url]) Download link is right here. It'll only work over Jigglypuff's sleep hat, as that's what I rebuilt it over. [url]http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3yw3zly1znz[/url] ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3yw3zly1znz[/url]) THIS IS PROOF THAT THE END OF BRAWL HACKING IS NIGH. (not joking) Soon we will have hacked EVERYTHING inside Brawl!! Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on February 19, 2010, 10:09:22 PM No one payed attention to the Dragon Ball Z ring?
Well honestly I don't know what TF2 is but this is cool :3 Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 19, 2010, 10:13:59 PM Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT!
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on February 20, 2010, 09:39:32 AM Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT! Looks like a vertex to me. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 20, 2010, 09:57:02 AM I looked inside the File for it with my Hex editor, and it doesnt even say MDL0 in it!
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on February 20, 2010, 01:15:31 PM Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT! Looks like a vertex to me. Don't believe me? Pick any hat from the list on this page (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hats), and I'll put it on Jigglypuff's head. Doesn't matter which one. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on February 20, 2010, 02:36:35 PM Team Fortress is a shoot with teams put simply. AND ITS NOT FOR WII AND RANDOM T BUSH TOLD US HOW HE DID IT! Looks like a vertex to me. Don't believe me? Pick any hat from the list on this page ([url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hats[/url]), and I'll put it on Jigglypuff's head. Doesn't matter which one. http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Mining_light Not that I don't believe you I just like that hat. So do it. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segtendo on February 20, 2010, 02:57:24 PM That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D
Have you ever tried Pikachu? And my pick is http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: flammable on February 20, 2010, 03:17:26 PM That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D Have you ever tried Pikachu? And my pick is [url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube[/url] that on pikachu= win Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 20, 2010, 04:39:15 PM http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Otolaryngologist%27s_mirror
Please on Mario. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: STUFF2o on February 20, 2010, 05:17:02 PM STOVE PIPE HAT!
BONK HAT! ... on Captain Falcon... Okay, not really. Those hats would be awesome on anybody. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: LookItsLink on February 20, 2010, 05:21:05 PM lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segtendo on February 20, 2010, 06:13:47 PM lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys. I know, but Pikachu needs some love too.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on February 20, 2010, 06:28:02 PM lol this turned into a request thread. I'm pretty sure he said he'll put it on Jigglypuff guys. Yeah. The main reason I chose Jigglypuff is because it and Pikachu are the only two characters that get new props for alternate costumes. Aaaaand another reason was because one of its alternate costumes has the hat as a separate model (green team / sleep hat). I had originally tried it on a different costume, and... Well, let's just say that after rebuilding the MDL0 to have larger entries, if one thing is not linked properly for whatever reason, it ain't gonna work properly. (I still don't know what went wrong.)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-OopsIBrokeIt.jpg) Oh, and as for why I chose Bill's hat out of all the ones available in Team Fortress 2... First of all, my real name's Bill, Bill's my favourite character in Left 4 Dead, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat (since it's a bonus that you get in TF2 for pre-ordering Left 4 Dead 2, which didn't do). XP That's awesome. I'm gotta get this :D Haven't tried anything with Pikachu yet, but I'll try that later.Have you ever tried Pikachu? And my pick is [url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Prussian_pickelhaube[/url] [url]http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Otolaryngologist%27s_mirror[/url] That would be perfect for the Dr. Mario that's being worked on, so I'll do that at a later time. :)Please on Mario. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on February 21, 2010, 07:26:55 PM (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-MiningLight.png)
One Mining Light, coming right up. I'll test it out in-game as soon as my older brother's finished using the Wii. (He's playing No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle at the moment.) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 21, 2010, 08:32:32 PM please do the doctor hat thing.
We only need the model and then we have Dr. Mario in Brawl. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: yes, hello on February 21, 2010, 08:59:32 PM Oh, and as for why I chose Bill's hat out of all the ones available in Team Fortress 2... First of all, my real name's Bill, Bill's my favourite character in Left 4 Dead, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat (since it's a bonus that you get in TF2 for pre-ordering Left 4 Dead 2, which didn't do). XP Then you should have done the ]BILLy[censored] (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Backbiter's_billy[censored) it still has your name in it, they look totally awesome, and it's the only way I'll ever be able to wear that hat because i can't find a decent one in real life. XP Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on February 21, 2010, 09:14:07 PM please do the doctor hat thing. We only need the model and then we have Dr. Mario in Brawl. None of you realize that Mario would have a huge hole in his head. His hair is not under his hat except in the taunt. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Pik on February 21, 2010, 09:28:01 PM add the hair in PSA
I assume there'd be a Dr. Mario one anyway. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Protoman.EXE on February 22, 2010, 04:40:56 PM Thats exactly what i meant.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: puls-z0r on February 22, 2010, 04:55:48 PM random? can you please tell me how to do this
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on February 22, 2010, 08:55:52 PM random? can you please tell me how to do this Sure. Lemme go get my post from the SmashBoards.Quote from: RandomTBush I exported the hat from the original SMD file to a DAE, converted the vertex, normal and UV mapping values to hex float (by using the 3DS export method used for vertex hacking), and put those all in the MDL0 file. THEN, I took DAE and put it through the Collada Refinery, with the "Tristripper" option so that the "triangle" values were condensed into tristrips (which are so much smaller than having thousands of values for the original triangles). These are the tristrip values for the Bill's hat: Code: <p>0 0 0 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 4 4 4 5 5 5 186 189 202 187 190 203 197 200 213 198 201 214 240 243 256 241 244 257 223 226 239 225 228 241 224 227 240 226 229 242 312 320 332 226 229 242 313 321 333 243 246 259 60 322 334 248 251 264 251 254 267 249 252 265 250 253 266 256 259 272 257 260 273 264 267 280 265 268 281 169 172 185 139 142 155 170 173 186 140 143 156 167 170 183 168 171 184 166 169 182 179 182 195 151 154 167 158 161 174 148 151 164 146 149 162 147 150 163 145 148 161 153 156 169 154 157 170 297 304 317 296 303 316 135 138 151 133 136 149 134 137 150 131 134 147 126 128 141 124 125 138 125 127 140 41 126 139 125 127 140 42 130 143 125 127 140 128 131 144 232 235 248 233 236 249 11 11 11 234 237 250 10 10 10 215 218 231 213 216 229 214 217 230 216 219 232 217 220 233 236 239 252 237 240 253 194 197 210 195 198 211 185 188 201 196 199 212 186 189 202 196 199 212 197 200 213 239 242 255 240 243 256 221 224 237 223 226 239 222 225 238 224 227 240 310 317 330 224 227 240 311 318 331 312 320 332</p> The reason I had asked for a batch hex converter a while back was so that I could convert all those values to hex. Every tristrip has a minimum of 3 values -- the first one links to the vertex point, the second is for normals, and the third is for UV mapping, and the amount of values was always a multiple of 3 because of that. Every chunk of values in between the <p> and </p> tags was for a different tristrip, so I put a "9800FF" before each and every one of those. Then, I counted the number of values between those tags and divided by 3, then changed the "FF" at the end of the "9800FF" I put in to that value (in hex) then stuck it into the model file under the Polygons section when I was done. Finally, after injecting the new values, I had to re-link every single node in the MDL0 file. I still believe that my earlier attempt had at least one incorrectly linked offset. If even a single offset in the MDL0 is off, the whole thing breaks (which is why I had so much trouble getting it working by rebuilding Jigglypuff's entire model -- using the sleep hat gave me so much less that I had to worry about re-linking). This could work for rigged models, too, but I'm really not sure how they're set up yet. It does work for things with only one bone, though. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on February 23, 2010, 02:14:03 PM (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/SSBB-MiningLightPuff.jpg)
Finished the Mining Light now. Just like the Bill's Hat, it only will work over FitPurin02, because the hat's a separate model. (I have to try again with rebuilding a complete model, since my earlier attempts failed.) http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?yh4tdkzzzze Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Alphatron on February 23, 2010, 03:38:21 PM Jiggs still doesn't have a fedorah but I gotta say the mining hat is friggin sweet.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on February 23, 2010, 03:53:06 PM Would It be possible to put hats of playable characters in Brawl on Jigglypuff through the use of Kirby hats? Because you can't give Jigglypuff Mario's hat because Mario's hat is part of his model, But the Mario Kirby hat is separate from Kirby, So what It be possible to give It to Jigglypuff? Also, Using the method described above, Would It be possible to make Kirby hats out of TF2 hats?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: nuclear432 on March 01, 2010, 11:00:54 PM How the **** did you do that?I herd the game dosen't even use mdl0 files.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Mewtwo2000 on April 22, 2010, 03:21:57 AM RandomT, you should upload the jigglypuff to the vault, I saw it for the first time on a youtube video and didn't know where to find it xD
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segtendo on April 22, 2010, 03:55:14 PM Man, I hope there's a way to hex it in. I don't always wanna replace the green slot.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ??? on April 22, 2010, 03:56:36 PM Couldnt you just put the thing on the green slot then replace 00 with it? Like rename the Pac Fitpurin00? Wouldnt it still have the same qualities?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on April 22, 2010, 04:01:44 PM You people need to educate yourselves about this. In Jigglypuff's sleep hat costume, The hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's why these TF2 hat replacements only work on "FitPurin02", Jigglypuff doesn't have any other costumes where the hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's also why replacing "FitPurin02" with a non-sleep hat costume will result in a freeze.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ??? on April 22, 2010, 04:04:13 PM Yeah I got that but wouldnt technically just renaming it to fitpurin00 keep the model data and everything?
Or is it the fact that since it has the "00" the game doesnt try to read the hat and freezes? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on April 22, 2010, 04:10:39 PM Yeah I got that but wouldnt technically just renaming it to fitpurin00 keep the model data and everything? Or is it the fact that since it has the "00" the game doesnt try to read the hat and freezes? I already explained why that doesn't work. The only thing I can think to add to It is that the file name doesn't matter, It's the contents of the file that matter. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ??? on April 22, 2010, 04:13:30 PM I think i get it now. O_o... Still. has anyone else been able to do this?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: songeflemy on April 22, 2010, 05:12:07 PM Well honestly I don't know what TF2 is but this is cool :3 Might as well dislike it since I like it also. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Mewtwo2000 on April 23, 2010, 07:13:53 AM I had tried it yesterday, but no results. A regular jigglypuff only cares about the first model in the modeldata[0] with index and flags being zero.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Symbiote on April 23, 2010, 08:37:13 AM I want this one:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Max's_severed_head Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on April 24, 2010, 05:17:24 PM OMG THIS OVER PIKACHU!! THIS OVER PIKACHU!!!
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Demoman%27s_%27fro AFROCHU MUST EXIST!! HE MUST!! http://galaxiadarkness.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/al_100408_0532-bin-out-copy.png I WOULD USE HIM EVERY TIME I PLAY PIKACHU!! that and if you can somehow make the gloves.. i cant vertex :( Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 24, 2010, 05:46:10 PM This one should be done over either Pikachu or Jigglypuff:
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Scotsman's_stove_pipe Or this one: http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Hustler's_hallmark Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on April 25, 2010, 02:06:54 PM I love it.
Everyone drools over it, I think its a lie. When he does another one its the doubter's preference not the fans. :af: Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: matteron on April 25, 2010, 09:18:32 PM http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Towering_pillar_of_hats
Just because... Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on April 26, 2010, 12:18:29 AM RandomT, you should upload the jigglypuff to the vault, I saw it for the first time on a youtube video and didn't know where to find it xD I will in a few days.Anyway, sorry about not being able to work on any other requests at this moment. I've been busy with other things. I'll work on a few of your requests later, especially the ones for Pikachu... just so I can try rebuilding a whole model and not just one part like I did for the two Jigglypuff hats. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on April 26, 2010, 05:00:59 PM lol alright.. maybe someday ill be able vertex by myself.. but first i gotta clear my hard drive..
i only got %8 left on a 250GB hard drive XD so i cant install 3Ds MAX until i am able to clean up a bit! Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on April 26, 2010, 10:29:17 PM Okay, both skins (and my old Ice Climbers "separate eyes" patch) were submitted to the BrawlVault, and
I... think I'll try making the Towering Pillar of Hats next, but this time, I'll try rebuilding one of the other Jigglypuff models, so that it won't be replacing the green team skin again. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segab on April 28, 2010, 05:38:20 PM Would it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon?
Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on April 28, 2010, 07:34:08 PM DUDE THAT WOULD BE EPIC-LY AWESOME!!
DO IT!! lol i sure am demanding arent i? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segab on April 28, 2010, 09:14:55 PM DO IT!! lol i sure am demanding arent i? I'll do it if he says it's possible, and I got tons of other ideas if it works.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on April 28, 2010, 09:34:44 PM Millions of fan requests. >_>
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on April 28, 2010, 09:55:58 PM Would it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon? Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich? Millions of fan requests. >_> Yeah... If only I could modify the BrawlBox source that Kryal uploaded to enable saving, then I'd be able to blitz through them all. Until then, I gotta do things by hand.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: matteron on April 29, 2010, 01:57:35 PM Wut about the towering pillar of hats? :(
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 29, 2010, 02:17:05 PM RandomTBush:
Quote from: ds22 To bad just can't rip the head from the Mewtwo trophy and put it on Mew(cario)two's body. Do you still have that Mewtwo head?Wait, if we can get Mewtwo's head from Melee with one bone in it and ask RandomTBush to convert (if possible) it like he did with Bill's hat and then get it in similar to how Roy's hair is done (I know Lucario doesn't have a sword glow, but he has those hand aura's) to replace his head. Just a idea I got (a bit hard and totally unnecessarily to do, but I'm just stating it). Or we could ask -BigSharkZ- for the values he used to get the perfect Mewtwo head, asfor I have read he's taking a break. If so, could you say if what I'm suggesting in my quote is possible? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on April 29, 2010, 02:21:21 PM Wut about the towering pillar of hats? :( I'll get to working on that, too.RandomTBush: I honestly think that re-rigging Mewtwo to Lucario's skeleton would be better than just rebuilding his head and putting it over Lucario's model by other means. But that can't really be done right now. D:Quote from: ds22 To bad just can't rip the head from the Mewtwo trophy and put it on Mew(cario)two's body. Do you still have that Mewtwo head?Wait, if we can get Mewtwo's head from Melee with one bone in it and ask RandomTBush to convert (if possible) it like he did with Bill's hat and then get it in similar to how Roy's hair is done (I know Lucario doesn't have a sword glow, but he has those hand aura's) to replace his head. Just a idea I got (a bit hard and totally unnecessarily to do, but I'm just stating it). Or we could ask -BigSharkZ- for the values he used to get the perfect Mewtwo head, asfor I have read he's taking a break. If so, could you say if what I'm suggesting in my quote is possible? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 29, 2010, 02:58:25 PM But could you send me Mewtwo's head .obj (or vertex data to directly replace in BrawlBox) anyway (if you still have it of course)?
I have some plans. >D Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on April 29, 2010, 03:20:01 PM Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl? I think he means putting the bones of a playable character on a trophy. Meaning the MewTwo trophy with Lucario's bones. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 29, 2010, 03:43:55 PM Anyway, with re-rigging, you mean the trophy model from Brawl? I think he means putting the bones of a playable character on a trophy. Meaning the MewTwo trophy with Lucario's bones. I was questioning the use of the Brawl trophy model instead of the Melee model. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Quanno on May 02, 2010, 05:46:09 AM If you can port mdl0 models in brawl, is it possible to port models from zelda twilight princess which are ported to de source engine? And if thats possible, is it then even possible to replace the ssbb link's master sword with one of the other sword?
...kinda confusing Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Quanno on May 02, 2010, 09:48:11 AM But Ike's sword is. At least, when he is trowing it in the air... So it would still be useless...
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on May 02, 2010, 11:19:15 AM But Ike's sword is. At least, when he is trowing it in the air... So it would still be useless... The sword Ike throws up is an article, while Link doesn't have a sword article.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segab on May 03, 2010, 03:33:34 PM Would it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon? Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich? cool, tell me if that works. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 03, 2010, 02:04:56 AM Would it be possible to replace an item with a TF2 weapon? Hm. I like that request. I'll do that, first.Like the Maxim Tomato replaced by Heavy's Sandvich? What was that, sandvich? "Kill them all"? GOOD IDEA! Ahahahahaha! Sorry it took so long. I've been busy with other things for the past few weeks. Tomorrow, after I clean up the MDL0 file a bit, I'll release it. :) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: NecroMasterX on June 03, 2010, 06:27:19 AM Hey randomtbrush, are you ever gonna do my request for max's severed head?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segtendo on June 03, 2010, 08:59:01 AM Win. What does it replace?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 03, 2010, 09:01:54 AM Hey randomtbrush, are you ever gonna do my request for max's severed head? It's on my to-do list.Win. What does it replace? The Maxim Tomato. Maxim Tomato heals 50%, sandvich laying on the ground heals 50HP. Makes perfect sense.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: mariokart64n on June 04, 2010, 08:19:28 PM whats the format on the polygon block.
its like header info then a bunch of strips.. but the strips have a format to them.. -[3bytes] 0x9800FF {start of strip?} -[2bytes][x3] 3 Faces -[1byte] 0x00 node? ..pattern repeats depending on the amount of faces in strip... Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 04, 2010, 10:12:15 PM whats the format on the polygon block. For tristrips, the first byte is for the polygon type (with 98 being the identifier for triangle strips), and then the next two is for how many polygon groups there are in the batch. Then, all the bytes after that for vertex position ID, normal position ID, and UV position ID, in that order, and there are always at least three groups.its like header info then a bunch of strips.. but the strips have a format to them.. -[3bytes] 0x9800FF {start of strip?} -[2bytes][x3] 3 Faces -[1byte] 0x00 node? ..pattern repeats depending on the amount of faces in strip... This page (http://smashbrosfiles.blogspot.com/p/technical-file-information-melee.html) has information on the different polygon types, under "Conversion Methods" (click on the button to the left to expand the section). Although written for Super Smash Bros. Melee, the polygon format seems to be the exact same for Brawl. Anyway, Sandvich is released! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/Brawl-SandvichMakeMeStrong.jpg) http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=7137&Moderated=All I'll most likely take a new picture for it tomorrow, as I was in a bit of a hurry to get it uploaded. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on June 04, 2010, 10:30:26 PM I don't get the sandwich joke, but okay.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 04, 2010, 10:35:38 PM I don't get the sandwich joke, but okay. The basic idea of the picture's from Meet the Scout, one of Valve's promotional videos for Team Fortress 2. The red team's Scout (on the right) interrupts the blue team's Heavy (on the left) right before he's about to eat his Sandvich. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/TF2-YoWhatsUp.jpg) I'm gonna re-take the picture sometime tomorrow, though, since I'm gonna change it so that Ness is holding the Home Run Bat. Either that, or just about to bash Dedede's head in. But as for the idea of the Sandvich itself, it's food. Food replacing food. Makes sense. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 04, 2010, 11:01:07 PM ITS AWESOME :D
ill take 4 Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: mariokart64n on June 06, 2010, 09:03:26 AM I made a maxscript to read a stripified DAE then write only the strips to a bin file as hex.
it follows what I sorta understand but it's not tested.. cause I haven't even gotten this to work yet the info supllied by RandomTbush really confused me after he said the polygon file doesn't have faces, its just ID's IDs IDs.. if thats the case I have no clue. cause there is alot of random numbers at the end of the polygon block.. but I can makeout the starting pattern, which also is backed up by the melee info [2bytes] ID {9800=triStrips} [2bytes] FaceCount {??not sure on base unit 0 or 1} DAE uses 1, usually hex is 0 [2bytes][FaceCountx3] faces... anyway here's the script, please test it out. I think I have the endian wrong Code: fsource = GetOpenFileName \ I'll do more testing myself later, if I have success I'll create a video outlining the method Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Demonsplay, Obviously on June 06, 2010, 10:25:58 AM http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Safe%27n%27Sound
also viking helm :3 plz Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 06, 2010, 03:58:45 PM the info supllied by RandomTbush really confused me after he said the polygon file doesn't have faces, its just ID's IDs IDs.. if thats the case I have no clue. Ulp. What I meant by IDs, is that there are a certain amount of vertices, normals, and UV points per model. Each vertex, normal and UV point has as many IDs as there are points. One ID per point, ya see.Let's just say that one polygon group is like this: (0 0 0 2 1 3 4 4 4). That means that the vertices link to points #0, #2 and #4, the normals link to points #0, #1 and #4, and the UV links to points #0, #3 and #4. Only from their own point groups, of course. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Vish on June 06, 2010, 04:05:16 PM RandomTBush, would a model that is 'neither rigged, weighted or textured' work to be imported?
Quote from: Some guy who makes epic models My concern at present is that neither model is rigged, weighted or textured, as well that both models are significantly more complex than the Wii can probably handle. I do have a lower res GL, but he's still not textured or rigged. Do you have a lot of experience importing outside models into Brawl? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 06, 2010, 04:12:40 PM RandomTBush, would a model that is 'neither rigged, weighted or textured' work to be imported? If it doesn't have any texture, then it's probably not best to work on it until it does, as the UV values would probably change and therefore have the polygon groups forced to be re-done.Quote from: Some guy who makes epic models My concern at present is that neither model is rigged, weighted or textured, as well that both models are significantly more complex than the Wii can probably handle. I do have a lower res GL, but he's still not textured or rigged. Do you have a lot of experience importing outside models into Brawl? Unless it's not supposed to have textures in the first place. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: mariokart64n on June 06, 2010, 04:22:13 PM yay, brawlbox didnt crash this time ^_^
seems there an extra byte.. I don't understand why like 98 00 [count] [face1] [face2] [node?] [face3] updated the script, tested on marths hair, but its a vertex mess Code: fsource = GetOpenFileName \ also I'm still not sure what you mean by ID's are the IDs in the polgon block that I need to edit Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 06, 2010, 04:34:22 PM seems there an extra byte.. I don't understand why like 98 00 [count] [face1] [face2] [node?] [face3] ... also I'm still not sure what you mean by ID's are the IDs in the polgon block that I need to edit Hm. Seems like it's a different type of polygon group you're working with. I think the extra byte might be for colour IDs? It does come right after normals (2nd byte) and before UV (4th byte). The one I was working with gives me two bytes for each vertex/normal/UV, and no colour IDs that I have to worry about. And the IDs for the polygon groups link to the vertex/normal/UV positions, like I said. For example... ID 0 = -2.0331 0.052406 0.91553 ID 1 = -2.06535 0.053566 0.768179 ID 2 = -3.09214 0.05108 0.188485 ID 3 = -1.93107 0.052136 1.02704 ID 4 = -2.9666 0.073827 -0.560108 ID 5 = -2.03939 0.061984 -2.06363 If the polygon group goes (0 # # 1 # # 2 # # 3 # # 4 # # 5 # #), then it would draw a triangle from point 0 to point 1 to point 2, then one from point 1 to point 2 to point 3, and so on. A similar thing works for the normals and UVs. Anyway. What are the identifiers set to in the header for the polygon group? (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/RandomTalkingBush/Brawl-PolygonIdentifiers.png) These are the ones I've used, which allow me to have more than 256 polygons per object. (The red ones on the bottom need to match the green ones at the top.) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segab on June 06, 2010, 05:37:46 PM well that's awesome RandomTBrush.
I can't understand how you're doing that.. I'd like to try importing stuff but it's just Chinese to me. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: NecroMasterX on June 09, 2010, 05:24:30 PM Wheres mah max's sevared head?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Segtendo on June 09, 2010, 05:29:52 PM It takes a while to manually convert a model to MDL0.
I don't even know what he's working on. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 09, 2010, 05:39:30 PM Wheres mah max's sevared head? As BehindYou said, it takes a while to manually convert a model to MDL0. Plus, I've been busy with real-life stuff. (I do have a life, ya know.)I don't even know what he's working on. Currently, I was working on Peach with Luigi's outfit (like in Super Mario Adventures), but I guess I can put that one aside so I can work on NecroMasterX/Symbiote's request... Who do you want it for, again? Jigglypuff, or Pikachu, or...? Either way, I'll be trying to build it over their original models, so it won't be limited to one skin like my first two models were.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: NecroMasterX on June 09, 2010, 07:32:51 PM I want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 10, 2010, 09:10:21 AM I want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat. Ah, I see.Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: highfive on June 10, 2010, 11:09:19 AM Any hat? Can I get this hat on Jigglypuff?
http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Safe%27n%27Sound Well, technically not a hat but head phones. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on June 10, 2010, 03:39:16 PM I want it on pikachu if you can, also symbiote was my old acount, I lost the password and the lost password button diddn't help. But, if you cant get max's severed head on pikachu, put it on jiggs so I can make it a kirby hat. If you want It as a Kirby hat then why not just ask for It as a Kirby hat? Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: MyKewl on June 10, 2010, 09:27:35 PM this is cool
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 10, 2010, 10:31:24 PM Oh, and I couldn't get your MaxScript to work for me at all, by the way, mariokart64n (it froze 3DS Max every time). Is there a specific thing I have to do to get it working?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: mariokart64n on June 12, 2010, 05:37:19 AM yeah there was a typo, that caused the script not to work... :(
since I wasn't able to fully understand the format, I didn't bother posting the fixed version, sorry sometime I'll update my main script, and addd a new button called export. it'll dump raw verts, raw UVs, and faces formatted as specified for triStrip all as separate bin files. that way people can tinker with hex replacing data in the MDL0. hopfully that'll be a big help to everyone hexing. but the thing that's held me back is the fact I'm using EditPoly to do all my operations in 3dsmax. see max has a marco recorder.. so basically it'll save your actions to a script, that you can replay later. that's the basics of maxscript. for some reason the macro listener only gives me output for using editPoly.. anyway editPoly is increasing the vert count, which is causing grief among my new vert technique.. I tried posting for help at the script spot, so far no answer.. how ever I may just continue with the script, cause I donno if I'll get my problem solved or not. my friend chrrox suggested using meshOps, by cloning and collapsing to mesh edit only then carry out my operations... it may have to come down to that. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Oizen on June 14, 2010, 08:38:43 PM RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl?
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 14, 2010, 08:46:38 PM RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl? if this were possible, Gordon Freeman would be the first, or at least a crowbar that you can use as a weapon (over homerun bat perhaps?) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 14, 2010, 10:10:21 PM RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl? if this were possible, Gordon Freeman would be the first, or at least a crowbar that you can use as a weapon (over homerun bat perhaps?)I don't recall Gordon Freeman being in TF2. yes but he is in the steam engine, therefore he should have the same model build.. correct me if im wrong, but doesnt that mean EVERYTHING running the steam engine can be ported to brawl? probably not people, but small time stuff? I WANTZ A CROWBAR! :D Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 14, 2010, 10:38:23 PM RandomTBush, This isn't really a request, but would it be possible for you to build an entire character from TF2 into brawl? Eventually. I still don't quite understand the rigging format, but when I do, yes, it would be possible. The first thing I'll do when I figure it out, though, will most likely be porting Zoey over Zero Suit Samus.But, anyway, I believe I've said this before, but any model that I port doesn't necessarily need to be from a Source-based game. It's just that those are the most convenient that I can get models from. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 14, 2010, 11:04:48 PM @randomTbrush, NICE! i just assumed it was doable only if it was from the source engine.
they ported mewtwo for gary's mod, if you made that for brawl.... you would be the most popular guy in brawl vault :D provided that you get the rigging format situated that is.. i would settle for a crowbar XD Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: PAVGN on June 14, 2010, 11:16:52 PM Can you convert/import .DAE files into Brawl? Because I found this place (http://www.models-resource.com/) a few days ago and I think It'd be awesome If you could import this. (http://www.models-resource.com/other_systems/halo2/sheet/57)
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: mariokart64n on June 14, 2010, 11:29:11 PM @RandomTBush
if I gave you a mesh that's lower in polycount and vertcount to another mesh I want to replace. would you be able to replace it for me? its the matter of replacing shinobu's hair with the real shinobu's hair. find files here. (i dont care about UV import) http://rapidshare.com/files/399165346/marth_shinobu_jacobs_B_v01.zip (http://i49.tinypic.com/3150nzm.jpg) otherwise tomorrow I'll be committing time to scripting in max. is there any functions you need might want, I can likely carry it out in maxscript. like exportings verts or faces something like that in a specified format. or any read / write things. ? oh and do you know in what region the vertex weights are being stored? also I was heavily involved with gmod, I've got alot of models. let me know if your looking for something. ;) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 15, 2010, 12:16:01 AM @randomTbrush, NICE! i just assumed it was doable only if it was from the source engine. Ah, yeah. That's another thing I should do when/if I get the rigging format figured out. I should probably rig his model over Lucario's skeleton so that it will have the best results.they ported mewtwo for gary's mod, if you made that for brawl.... you would be the most popular guy in brawl vault :D provided that you get the rigging format situated that is.. i would settle for a crowbar XD @RandomTBush I suppose I could. I'll see if I can get it done within a week.if I gave you a mesh that's lower in polycount and vertcount to another mesh I want to replace. would you be able to replace it for me? its the matter of replacing shinobu's hair with the real shinobu's hair. find files here. (i dont care about UV import) [url]http://rapidshare.com/files/399165346/marth_shinobu_jacobs_B_v01.zip[/url] ([url]http://i49.tinypic.com/3150nzm.jpg[/url]) otherwise tomorrow I'll be committing time to scripting in max. is there any functions you need might want, I can likely carry it out in maxscript. like exportings verts or faces something like that in a specified format. or any read / write things. ? oh and do you know in what region the vertex weights are being stored? also I was heavily involved with gmod, I've got alot of models. let me know if your looking for something. ;) And I'm almost certain that the rigging is set up in polygon groups like this: Code: 30 00 EF B0 78 And DANG, that Shinobu used to be Marth? Certainly fooled me. D: Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on June 18, 2010, 06:16:36 PM Can I request, if possible, Sora's Keyblade converted as a Brawl model?
Preferable this one: http://www.models-resource.com/psx_ps2/KH2FM/sheet/146 Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Ӄit ßallarɖ on June 19, 2010, 03:01:26 AM The first thing I'll do when I figure it out, though, will most likely be porting Zoey over Zero Suit Samus. Dude!!! I would LOVE you forever if you did get Zoey in Brawl. She's my fave L4D char. I can't wait till you can import Source engine stuff. I'll keep my eye on this topic from now on XD Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Setzer on June 27, 2010, 09:08:57 PM We still have a long way to go before EVERYTHING has been hacked in Brawl.
Well... no one has done a Mr. Canti from Fooly Cooly yet. That's something that WOULD BE APPRECIATED! (HINT DO IT SOMEONE HINT!) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 27, 2010, 09:30:41 PM gawd this topic is dead, plz post in requests.. 0_0
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on June 28, 2010, 12:32:28 AM gawd this topic is dead, plz post in requests.. 0_0 It's not dead unless I say it is.But anyway, I've been having some trouble getting Max's Severed Head to work on Pikachu. It's there and everything, but it causes the same glitching and slowdown as I had with Jigglypuff when I first tried to put the Bill's Hat in the same MDL0... I'm gonna spend more time looking into the MDL0 format, because I think I may just be forgetting something important... Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Wulfbang Meow on June 28, 2010, 01:19:03 AM oh, sorry bout that, its just that its been very quiet.. 0_0
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: VILE on June 29, 2010, 07:16:30 PM All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: NecroMasterX on June 29, 2010, 07:53:42 PM It doesn't have to be on pikachu, I mainly want it as a kirby hat.
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Internetakias on July 10, 2010, 11:10:56 AM I want max too in brawl and maybe a character model import from sam and max season 1 or 2
Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on July 14, 2010, 01:14:27 PM All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works. Triangle strips basically go from point 1 to 2 to 3, then from 2 to 3 to 4, then from 3 to 4 to 5, etc. It's a more efficient way for storing large lengths of triangles.It doesn't have to be on pikachu, I mainly want it as a kirby hat. Well, good, because I can't get it working on Pikachu, because of the way the vertex weights are stored. I'll see if I can get a chance to put the Kirby hat model together sometime later next week.I want max too in brawl and maybe a character model import from sam and max season 1 or 2 Entire character models are not possible yet, and probably won't be for a few more months (at least).Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: VILE on July 14, 2010, 09:22:55 PM All the major info in a collada dae file is just a rearranged version of brawls MDL0 files. I can build completely new brawl models from any dae, the only thing is it take about a bajillion years. The only thing don't quite understand fully is how tristrips works. Triangle strips basically go from point 1 to 2 to 3, then from 2 to 3 to 4, then from 3 to 4 to 5, etc. It's a more efficient way for storing large lengths of triangles.Sorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: RandomTBush on July 14, 2010, 09:37:26 PM Sorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them. If you want an easy way to convert the triangles into tristrips, use the Collada Refinery (http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladarefinery/files/COLLADA%20Refinery/COLLADA%20Refinery%202.0.3/). Just run a DAE file through it with Tristripper, and it'll convert all of the triangles into triangle strips.(Sometime, I'll write a better step-by-step tutorial, so that no important steps will be missed.) Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: VILE on July 14, 2010, 09:39:56 PM Sorry i meant to say i know how they work, but i don't know a method (or at least one that doesn't require me searching for each individual point and writing it) for getting a string of them. If you want an easy way to convert the triangles into tristrips, use the Collada Refinery ([url]http://sourceforge.net/projects/colladarefinery/files/COLLADA%20Refinery/COLLADA%20Refinery%202.0.3/[/url]). Just run a DAE file through it with Tristripper, and it'll convert all of the triangles into triangle strips.(Sometime, I'll write a better step-by-step tutorial, so that no important steps will be missed.) Hmmmm, i might be able to get static models imported a fair bit quicker than usual. Title: Re: BILL'S HAT MODEL IMPORTED INTO BRAWL! Post by: Aeon70 on July 30, 2010, 04:56:13 PM I want to import Shadow vertex hack's face on another sonic model.
Is there a way to do it ?:srs: |