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Title: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: VanillaPuff on November 18, 2010, 03:23:10 PM So I've started this project last month and scrapped it and now starting it again. So I need Ideas, mainly for the move-set.
Pictures will come on the weekends. *means done and finalized* Once I resize all animations to at least look like Pikachu (trust me you don't want to see pikachu with IC's animations) I'll release a download link. Please show support! Every post counts :) Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Get A Load of This! on November 18, 2010, 03:57:59 PM Can Nana's pac file be edited at all?
Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: VanillaPuff on November 18, 2010, 03:59:28 PM Can Nana's pac file be edited at all? I have no idea O.o Eternalyoshi made a PSA, and so did Jack H....He did edit some hitboxes right? Her sub-actions probably can be viewed in Tabuu Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Allbait on November 18, 2010, 04:53:59 PM Can Nana's pac file be edited at all? I thought Nana used Popo's pac o.o; On topic: Sounds interesting... But will they look like pikachu or will they have a changed model? Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Ct.OWN on November 18, 2010, 05:27:30 PM Since both of the ICs are the same character the editing of Nana might be almost impossible. Nana copies Popo so if you make Popo do an animation Nana will copy. Prove me wrong so I can be happy with this. I need a IC hack that doesn't suck T~T this'll be the first good IC hack I'll have if this works so I support it.
PM me for any tests you need for this. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Akiba Red on November 18, 2010, 05:30:27 PM Since both of the ICs are the same character the editing of Nana might be almost impossible. Nana copies Popo so if you make Popo do an animation Nana will copy. Prove me wrong so I can be happy with this. I need a IC hack that doesn't suck T~T this'll be the first good IC hack I'll have if this works so I support it. The thing about Popo and Nana is all lies. They are not clones in the least. Try to use OpenSA. And you can edit them separately. Its just that the MotionEtc is a pain to get by.PM me for any tests you need for this. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 18, 2010, 06:01:46 PM What Date said.
Here are some Nana subaction offsets to get you started. Code: Jab 1 - 2B6C4 A little warning, trying to edit the UpB currently will cause Nana to be out of Sync. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: Ct.OWN on November 18, 2010, 06:28:29 PM Since both of the ICs are the same character the editing of Nana might be almost impossible. Nana copies Popo so if you make Popo do an animation Nana will copy. Prove me wrong so I can be happy with this. I need a IC hack that doesn't suck T~T this'll be the first good IC hack I'll have if this works so I support it. The thing about Popo and Nana is all lies. They are not clones in the least. Try to use OpenSA. And you can edit them separately. Its just that the MotionEtc is a pain to get by.PM me for any tests you need for this. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas. Post by: VanillaPuff on November 18, 2010, 07:56:29 PM ACK! I'm so confused!
So first of all,I was planning to have both of them do the same thing because that's how I thought it would work because one motion.pac :P Thank you EternalYoshi :D There's a theory someone can help me try out. In PSA, there's an animation for each sub-action. If I make some animations I want Nana to do that's different than Popo, I could change what the animation it plays. @Alses They use an un-edited Pikachu model and animation re-sized to look sorta-like Pichus. About the Up-B, I've seen on the Mario climbers that it rocket launches them. If I could make the vertical movement lower maybe I could just keep it. I need a better look at the ICs Pac file. Plus I can't vertex because I don't have 3DS Max. If someone could do that for me that would be great. Need move-set ideas people! The Nana-Popo problems seem to be under control. So give me those ideas! 8D Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: PPXEXE on November 19, 2010, 01:33:31 PM Okay I want to help with the move-set but i need to ask few questions.
1 - What is the range of attack your going for? 2 - Is it possible to have one IC move after another. (Example: if i press A with popo he will swing his hammer, but not nana. Then if i press A again Nana will swing but not popo.) 3 - What Style of game play are you going for? (Example: Balanced, Speed, Power, or Flight) 4 - Are you making completely new animation or ripping Pikachu's? Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: VanillaPuff on November 19, 2010, 01:37:41 PM Okay I want to help with the move-set but i need to ask few questions. 1 - What is the range of attack your going for? 2 - Is it possible to have one IC move after another. (Example: if i press A with popo he will swing his hammer, but not nana. Then if i press A again Nana will swing but not popo.) 3 - What Style of game play are you going for? (Example: Balanced, Speed, Power, or Flight) 4 - Are you making completely new animation or ripping Pikachu's? 1-Any, depends on the idea 2-I don't think so 3-MeleeFastAwesomeWeegee-ish move-set 4-Either or. I've got the new brawl box modset with drag able bones. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: PPXEXE on November 19, 2010, 02:43:51 PM I'm working on it, but it's taking more time since i have to think Pichu - Ice climbers style.
but im almost finshed Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Roo on November 19, 2010, 02:46:49 PM Why not make it Plusle and minun instead of just two pichu's?
Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: PPXEXE on November 19, 2010, 03:02:53 PM A: A head butt - Should have barely any knock-back.
AA: An weak tackle - with good knock-back for distancing F-tilt: on they feet they spin slight forward like dancing doing multiple hit damage D-tilt: a small discharge of electrical releases around they bodies U-tilt: jump into the air doing a front flip, done like sonic's up smash but without the multiple hit damage F-Smash: They become small balls of lighting and tackle forward D-smash: A large ball of Lighting surrounds them doing multiple damage (Think Blanka from street fighter) U-smash: A large spark of electric discharge from above them U-air: they flip rapidly doing multiple hit damage knock them up on the last hit. D-air: should should shoot straight down, like kirby d-special knocking them upward but can cancel out of it after a couple of frames. F-air: The should front flip but knocking enemies down N-air:N-Air - Both Pichus send out a mid-range electrical discharge around them and take 1%. Fairly quick but knock-back is minimal. Mostly for interrupting slower aerials. Both do 3% for 6% total. Your B-Air - The Pichu's do a flip backwards, smacking the foe with their heads. Slightly larger start-up than most of their other attacks but still fast compared to most of the cast. One headbutt does 6% for a total of 12% should both hit. Fairly large knock-back. N-Special: a small spark of lighting in front of them like pichu's f-smash from melee and just a effective, but the attack should lag in the same area for a few extra frames. D-Special: should be chargeable and should be shot off like cannon balls, but works like captain Falcon D-Special both on the ground and in the air. U-Special: Be like an electrical teleport, moving like Zelda's, but leave a trail like Pikachu's only being able to hit only at beginning and end of the special attack. S-Special: should work like pikachu up-special but only side ways that cancel if on ground so this can be done repeatedly but with no knock-back, and low damage like fox's lasers, in the air it goes into special fall. can still attack like Sonic, or snake out of they're up specials. Final Smash: Lighting Shower, should send bolts of lighting down randomly at stage like rain. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Akiba Red on November 19, 2010, 04:38:09 PM Why not make it Plusle and minun instead of just two pichu's? Because they are real. We want PSA. Not real.Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Camonsters on November 19, 2010, 05:02:22 PM Why not make it Plusle and minun instead of just two pichu's? Because they are real. We want PSA. Not real.You make no sense... Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Akiba Red on November 19, 2010, 05:07:26 PM Why not make it Plusle and minun instead of just two pichu's? Because they are real. We want PSA. Not real.You make no sense... And the fact that Plusle and Minun were confirmed not finished characters..... Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Roo on November 19, 2010, 05:52:46 PM Ju-just WHAT exactly are you trying to say? o.0
I'm so freaking confused. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Get A Load of This! on November 19, 2010, 07:27:07 PM Pichu Bros. are more of their own characters within the Pokemon works than just Plusle and Minun.
Although, with Plusle and Minun, I'd actually be willing to write a set for them.. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: Ct.OWN on November 19, 2010, 08:57:39 PM Pichu Bros. are more of their own characters within the Pokemon works than just Plusle and Minun. Yeah, they even had their own anime! You needed Pokemon Channel to see it though. Gamecube game, still at Gamestop and Funcoland at the malls in La Plata or Waldorf, not sure.Although, with Plusle and Minun, I'd actually be willing to write a set for them.. Anyway, what are the attacks? I mean the confirmed attacks. Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: PPXEXE on November 20, 2010, 12:00:16 AM Anyway, what are the attacks? I mean the confirmed attacks. None yet, i log off before i could show my list of idea's Title: Re: Pichu Bros over ICs Ideas needed Post by: VanillaPuff on November 20, 2010, 05:42:45 AM So nobody likes this? WAH!!! :'(
Back on-topic: @GaLoT: That hurt my feelings :( But I can see why you would though. Pichu has been in the series already. I could make this plusle and minum move-set after this one. If people want it, I'll start it after the first Pichu BETA is released. @PPXEXE Thanks for the moveset, I'll get right on it as soon as I fix the IC's scary animations. Who's Blanka?!?!? @Ct. Own The confirmed move-set WILL change according to post and such. Why not make it Plusle and minun instead of just two pichu's? Because they are real. We want PSA. Not real.You make no sense... And the fact that Plusle and Minun were confirmed not finished characters..... Umm...there was another part of the post that was coloured black. Fixed in wuote. Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: VanillaPuff on November 20, 2010, 09:29:53 AM Bump!
After thinking it over for a bit, I decided I should do only one or the other. So which will it be? Pichu Bros? Or Plusle and Minum? ... OMIGAWD. I'm so stupid. How do you add polls? Thats a lot of Bumps Kingjigglypuff XD Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: DARKSHADEDX on November 20, 2010, 09:38:01 AM Pichu Bros. did have their own anime..
Both on Pokemon Channel and on Pokemon Chronicles. But let's not forget that in Destiny Deoxys (Pokemon Movie Number 7) Plusle and Minun were important characters. Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: Ct.OWN on November 20, 2010, 09:40:14 AM I think the Pichu bros should be made. They're more original and actual characters seen throughout the Pokemon series at least once in a region. Minun and Plusle are just one time characters, maybe occasionally seen in one episode or two but don't really stand out in the show. Just in the battles.
Edit: sure, they might be important in a movie but in the real show they are just there to battle or annoy the protagonists. Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: PPXEXE on November 20, 2010, 12:09:56 PM Pichu bros, i like them more and they're funny!
Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: Roo on November 20, 2010, 02:50:27 PM It would make more sence for it to be plusle and minun though, for the fact that they are different colors like the ice climbers are. This helps with knowing what character you actually are (Like if you where both hit in different directions) but two exactly the same looking Pichu's would make it harder to tell.
Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: DARKSHADEDX on November 20, 2010, 02:55:09 PM It would make more sence for it to be plusle and minun though, for the fact that they are different colors like the ice climbers are. This helps with knowing what character you actually are (Like if you where both hit in different directions) but two exactly the same looking Pichu's would make it harder to tell. One has a tuft of hair Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: PPXEXE on November 20, 2010, 03:09:28 PM It wouldn't matter, besides if you played with ice climbers before you'd know being different colors is a curse in disguise as a blessing. when your different colors the enemy know which one popo is, and which one is nana, and they also know if they kill nana half of your game plan has been cut off.
it's like getting your good arm cut off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0s9yRMUFY Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: ToddL on November 25, 2010, 03:38:55 AM Pichu's already been in this franchise as his own character and there's already a PSA for him in Brawl.
I also just plain dislike the Pichu Brothers idea for some reason I can't figure out...but this is just personal preference, I suppose. I'd rather see Plusle and Minum. Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: Lord Prosper on November 25, 2010, 06:58:46 AM I'd also rather see Plusle and Minun, just for the fact they were canceled characters.
Title: Re: Pichu Bros or Pluse and Minum? Post by: VanillaPuff on November 26, 2010, 07:31:34 AM Sorry guys! Pichu bros was already decided and then it is now scrapped for Hammer Bros instead. I'll post a download for the model if anyone wants to use it in game. Warning! It was a full swap. So using it as a one-swap may cause problems.
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