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Title: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on April 29, 2010, 01:12:56 AM
Not to take any attention away from RandomTBush since imports are a lot cooler. But why not try putting brawl hats on Jiggs? Specifically Kirby's. Since I was messing with the Hat model anyway, as a joke I replaced Jigglypuff's sleeping cap. Although I thought it was going to be an epic fail, the results weren't as bad as I thought. A lot of thanks to LookItsLink for testing if was even possible.

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4748/al1004282127binout.th.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/al1004282127binout.jpg/)(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1831/al1004282204binout.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/al1004282204binout.jpg/)(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2496/al1004282203binout.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/al1004282203binout.jpg/)(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9152/al1004282202binout.th.jpg) (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/al1004282202binout.jpg/)(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8211/al10042822021binout.th.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/al10042822021binout.jpg/)

As you can see it floats above her and the visor is in the middle of the stage. I have no idea why and no file with Jiggs to look into this. So instead I'll be providing 2 downloads.

Even though it obviously works in-game, there are a lot of problems.

Negative
-Freezes game on Final Destination.
-Freezes game on Battlefield.
-Freezes at result screen

Positive
-Works fine on Hanenbow (win?)
-Works on custom Brawl+ stage (in pics)
-Can replace Blue Team texture (others untest)
-Does not freeze during Final Smash

If it can be made to work, then it's possible to put all of Kirby's hats on Jiggs.

http://www.mediafire.com/?najmm1mmygj
^This is the one tested for the pics above.

http://www.mediafire.com/?2ytywid1wnx
^This one is a little altered but untested.

GIVE FEEDBACK!!!
Otherwise this can never happen.

If you don't want you're Wii freezing then don't download it. Anyone willing to deal with crashes is free to post what you did to make it crash. If you think you can help fix this then PM me about it. It'll be awesome to be able to put Kirby hat's on Jiggs. If the Kirby hats can work, next will be the Kirby trophies.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Demonsplay, Obviously on May 02, 2010, 10:36:12 PM
lol now we need to vertex/texture that hat in speech bubbles xD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 02, 2010, 10:48:03 PM
Well I'm trying to put any of Kirby's hats over Jigglypuff while being able to replace any of her textures with the sleepy hat one. But this thread isn't getting attention so I'm assuming people don't care about this. :P


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: flammable on May 03, 2010, 05:00:09 PM
i support the speech bubble idea


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 05:16:36 PM
Well if people can help make this work and give feedback than it can happen.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: flammable on May 03, 2010, 05:29:40 PM
i will give feedback:

awesome hat floatation, vertex into a "?" or a "!" ?!? awesomeness


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
I guess I'll just have to drop this then <_<

Only people posting here don't care about it getting done.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: PAVGN on May 03, 2010, 06:00:40 PM
I care about It getting done. I tried to do this with a different Kirby hat but couldn't get It to work. To get the helmet to be placed properly, You need to re-position the vertices. I can't help with that however since I can't edit vertices.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 06:08:49 PM
I care about It getting done. I tried to do this with a different Kirby hat but couldn't get It to work. To get the helmet to be placed properly, You need to re-position the vertices. I can't help with that however since I can't edit vertices.

I can fix the hat if I set the bone translation. I still need to know if this works over all of Jiggs' textures and if it messes up on any single stage. Like how it freezes on FD and Battle field. RandomTBush may be able to help me with the bones if any other hexer can't and from there I should be able to put any of Kirby's hats on Jiggs.

Maybe after that start taking things from trophy stands. I said in the OP that I need people to test this out and help if they can help. Instead I've gotten nothing but spam.

Thanks though PAVGN and if you know anyone from any other site that you think can help would you mind asking?


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: PAVGN on May 03, 2010, 06:13:59 PM
Thanks though PAVGN and if you know anyone from any other site that you think can help would you mind asking?

Of course, Jigglypuff using different Kirby hats would be awesome and I'll be trying to make my own as well.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 06:16:08 PM
The Kirby hat Jiggs works over her blue team texture too. So I wonder if it could work over the other textures.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Segtendo on May 03, 2010, 06:21:28 PM
Falcon: Where's mah helmet?
*Jigglypuff floats by*
*Falcon gets mad*
*Falcon punches Jigglypuff into oblivion*


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: PAVGN on May 03, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
The Kirby hat Jiggs works over her blue team texture too. So I wonder if it could work over the other textures.

Well In Jigglypuff's sleep hat costume, The hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's why these hat replacements only work on "FitPurin02", Jigglypuff doesn't have any other costumes where the hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. How you managed to make It work over her blue costume is a mystery to me. I doubt It'll work over all of her costume though.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
The Kirby hat Jiggs works over her blue team texture too. So I wonder if it could work over the other textures.

Well In Jigglypuff's sleep hat costume, The hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. That's why these hat replacements only work on "FitPurin02", Jigglypuff doesn't have any other costumes where the hat is a separate model from Jigglypuff. How you managed to make It work over her blue costume is a mystery to me. I doubt It'll work over all of her costume though.

LookItsLink just renamed it and it worked. That's all I know.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 07:07:49 PM
I support this i tryed giving jigz the zss hate >.> i failed so id like to see a jiggs with locks of hur XD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
I support this i tryed giving jigz the zss hate >.> i failed so id like to see a jiggs with locks of hur XD

When I did I messed with the bones a little on the falcon helmet.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
oh cool that is a start so :D if you need any help i could try to


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 07:43:17 PM
oh cool that is a start so :D if you need any help i could try to

Well first is getting the helmet to go past the results screen.....

Which I'm still not getting any feedback on anything...especially the untested helmet...


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 07:46:22 PM
If i could i would test it now but >.> i cant sorry


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 07:49:37 PM
It's ok. I'm just annoyed that I got so much spam instead of help. If you and PAVGN didn't comment I was gonna lock this and give up on it.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 07:52:15 PM
I know why spam something that could open new doors into hacking >;l


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 07:58:36 PM
I'll start working on versions with alternate Kirby hats soon. I'm laughing in my head now about a Sonic hat Jiggs XD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 08:00:44 PM
Omg that would be funny exspecially if that little whirl for her hair was blue O3O


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: LookItsLink on May 03, 2010, 08:01:53 PM
Do I has to test it again? >.>


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
Do I has to test it again? >.>

If you feel like it. Since some people actually want it I'm putting dls here for them.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 08:05:30 PM
Look its Link XD that was a stupid punn im sorry


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 03, 2010, 08:10:16 PM
If this can successfully happen I'll see about character articles like Metaknight's cape and crap like that.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Funzy <3 on May 03, 2010, 08:12:02 PM
that would be cool :D cant wait


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 02:44:56 AM
This is interesting for me, because I'm mostly using jiggz for playin xD

EDIT: Downloaded. From your words, I assume the problem in the freeze is shadow-related, so it only works in stages without shadows, such as most imports/SSE stages. When you enter in the results screen, there are shadows in there, so that's why it's always freezin there I guess.

It could be related to not having the same bones in the shadow than in the cap.

I'll test some things when I get home, I liked seein this xD

Anyway, it's working for blue jiggz you say? It should'nt be that way. It should be the cap-less jiggly for blue O.o


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 05:32:08 AM
Believe me I was surprised about the blue Jiggz. When Link was checking any possible problems I asked him to try a different slot for the hell of it. And surprisingly that worked.

I never thought that the shadow may cause a problem but you know how to add shadows to stages. Would you mind looking into it for me?


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 06:25:13 AM
Believe me I was surprised about the blue Jiggz. When Link was checking any possible problems I asked him to try a different slot for the hell of it. And surprisingly that worked.

I never thought that the shadow may cause a problem but you know how to add shadows to stages. Would you mind looking into it for me?

Sure, when I get home I will try everything to make it not freeze. And I'll try to make the cap fitting jiggly too. I just liked the idea of having the cap on jiggz xD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 07:16:41 AM
Believe me I was surprised about the blue Jiggz. When Link was checking any possible problems I asked him to try a different slot for the hell of it. And surprisingly that worked.

I never thought that the shadow may cause a problem but you know how to add shadows to stages. Would you mind looking into it for me?

Sure, when I get home I will try everything to make it not freeze. And I'll try to make the cap fitting jiggly too. I just liked the idea of having the cap on jiggz xD

That should be possible by moving it. Although if you can put the visor on the helmet that would be awesome. Try both versions.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 07:35:32 AM
Yeah, I'll try by moving down. If doesn't work, I will make a vertex hack if possible.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 07:53:22 AM
Yeah, I'll try by moving down. If doesn't work, I will make a vertex hack if possible.

Alright cool. I wasn't worried about moving it until the freeze problem was taken care of.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 02:43:55 PM
First thing made. No more freezes with shadows :P

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2ic5s0p.jpg)


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: ??? on May 06, 2010, 03:51:04 PM
Oooh... I would very much like this to happen.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 04:19:56 PM
It's almost done

(http://i41.tinypic.com/59soes.jpg)

Visor deleted, sorry ^^U


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Segtendo on May 06, 2010, 04:42:13 PM
Make helmet bigger? o.o


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 05:09:02 PM
Words cannot express how amazing you are Mewtwo.
 :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 05:21:13 PM
Make helmet bigger? o.o


I know, I know xDDD

Words cannot express how amazing you are Mewtwo.
 :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:


Well, thanks xD

It's done I guess, unless someone suggests any little fix with the size or the curl. I just though the curl getting out of the cap looks better, but give your opinion

(http://i39.tinypic.com/2a7iejr.jpg)

BTW, would you mind letting me to upload the falcon puff to the vault? I've made the shadow and position/sizing fixes ^^U xD

Anyway, the falcon cap will be the base for the other caps you want to use. I'll leave the rest to you and will help you if needed


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: PAVGN on May 06, 2010, 06:16:40 PM
Wow! That's really great Mewtwo2000! The only thing I could see improving this is removing Jigglypuffs ears so they're not going through the helmet.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 07:10:37 PM
Well, after a little of bone editing, this is the result :P

(http://i44.tinypic.com/24g0vnd.jpg)

I'm going to upload it to vault, I hope dingoberriz has no problem with it ^^U


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 07:34:41 PM
Not at all. I don't mind. I'll try doing all the other hats based on what you did.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 07:35:48 PM
Ok, thanks :P


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Oizen on May 06, 2010, 07:45:56 PM
Do The Ganon hat on Jiggs.



Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 07:50:01 PM
Do The Ganon hat on Jiggs.

I'm putting every hat on her.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewzard64 on May 06, 2010, 07:53:19 PM
Mario & Samus Puff
 :af:


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 08:03:31 PM
Mario & Samus Puff
 :af:

I'm starting every other hat now. And maybe trophies that can be turned into hats.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 08:10:59 PM
Remember, to move the hat, you need to make a vertex hack. You get the whole bunch of vertices, and move them at once.

I did not tell you how I did it for the falcon, so I'm telling you now xD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 08:18:36 PM
Remember, to move the hat, you need to make a vertex hack. You get the whole bunch of vertices, and move them at once.

I did not tell you how I did it for the falcon, so I'm telling you now xD

Well damn I can't use Anim8or on my com. I'll at least put a bunch of hats on Jiggz. And which one did you use? The first or second one.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 06, 2010, 08:20:49 PM
I think I used the first one. What was the difference?

Anyway, I think anim8tor can't select more than one vertex at once.

I've used 3dmax7 for it, it worked like a charm :P


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 08:24:17 PM
So you didn't need to go through the Anim8or step? And the difference was I lowered the bone translation on the second one.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Oizen on May 06, 2010, 10:11:06 PM
Do The Ganon hat on Jiggs.

I'm putting every hat on her.
fine fine.

You're starting with Ganon right?


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 06, 2010, 10:19:31 PM
I'm going down the alphabetical list. Mewtwo will be away for the weekend so I don't know if I can get them to work. I think I know what he did but will probably need someone to test if I finish some this weekend.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: PAVGN on May 07, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
Remember, to move the hat, you need to make a vertex hack. You get the whole bunch of vertices, and move them at once.

See dingoberriz? I told you that's what needed to be done.

To get the helmet to be placed properly, You need to re-position the vertices.

Great job on this MewTwo2000! I can't wait to see the other ones get done.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 07, 2010, 06:17:31 PM
Remember, to move the hat, you need to make a vertex hack. You get the whole bunch of vertices, and move them at once.

See dingoberriz? I told you that's what needed to be done.

To get the helmet to be placed properly, You need to re-position the vertices.

Great job on this MewTwo2000! I can't wait to see the other ones get done.

The first dl had the original position. The second dl had the helmet moved down but nobody bothered checking for me to say anything about it. So I did move it but nobody seemed to care to see if that one was on her head. Not having Jiggs for my emu makes this annoying for me to check after all.


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: Mewtwo2000 on May 08, 2010, 04:33:20 PM
You playin on dolphin?

I think you should download a savegame in order to be able to test everything xD


Title: Re: None Imported Hats On Jigglypuff!!!
Post by: dingo on May 09, 2010, 09:51:45 AM
I finally have one. I'll check them today but the hats may float.