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Title: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 19, 2010, 04:57:51 PM
Hi!

Im kinda new to kc-mm forums but I will go directly to my point.

I tried to use some of the custom stages made from here (like blue moon battleship, hyrule castle 64, metal harbor and a few more) but none of them work for me because when I choose the stage (ex pirate ship stage for blue moon battleship) the game freezes!
However, when I tried to use stages made from an another site (SmashBoards) they all worked fine and none of them froze! Here is the link if you want to check it out http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7449039 (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7449039)
I'm now wondering what the problem could be, and I hope that someone got the answer for me.
Here is some info about the things I've done:

* Wii: PAL
* Using Gecko OS to load codes (with File Replacement 2.1a)
* Using SD Card 2gb -> G:/private/wii/app/RSBP/pf/stage/melee/Stages.pac
and for those stages with a .rel file I put it in private/wii/app/RSBP/pf/module/st_stages.rel
(By the way, those maps I tried from smashboards which worked does not contain any .rel file, in other means, my module-folder is empty at the moment)

Alright, I think thats it. I just dont understand why my game freezes when using textures from THIS site, while textures from most other sites works well!

Thanks in advance
/Papuli


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: yoshimo on July 19, 2010, 05:12:30 PM
Did you check that your files are named correctly? If not, do that, and, if necessary, rename them. I'm not sure how Gecko OS works, though.


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: dark sonic 19 on July 19, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
i mit be wrong but some custom stages have file size limits meaning there to big
one last thing is your File Replacement for pal users? of not hear


File Replacement v2.1a' PAL [Phantom Wings, Y.S.]
225683EC 00000000
C201C3A8 00000017
38A00067 38810020
3862E8F8 3D80803F
618CD148 7D8903A6
4E800421 38A0007F
3883FFE8 38610020
3D80803F 618CD148
7D8903A6 4E800421
38A00068 3882E8F8
38610020 9421FF80
BC410008 38610088
3D808001 618CCE7C
7D8903A6 4E800421
7C7C1B78 2C030000
4082000C 38210080
48000034 B8410008
38210080 3D80803F
618CD148 7D8903A6
4E800421 38610008
3D808001 618CC50C
7D8903A6 4E800421
7C7C1B78 3D808001
618CC3AC 7D8903A6
4E800420 00000000
C201CF94 00000007
2C030000 41820018
3D808002 618C5BFC
7D8903A6 4E800421
48000008 8078000C
3D808001 618CCF98
7D8903A6 4E800420
60000000 00000000
043EEE04 48000014
043EF000 48000014
043D8FC8 48000018
043E9F78 38600000
043EA164 38600000
043D90AC 60000000
80000000 80409728
80000001 805A99C0
8A001001 00000000
065A99D0 00000008
2F525342 502F7066
E0000000 80008000


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 19, 2010, 05:22:26 PM
Did you check that your files are named correctly? If not, do that, and, if necessary, rename them

Okay, lets try the Blue Moon Battleship. I got 2 files, one st_pirates.rel and one STGPIRATES.pac.
I put the .rel file in the module folder on my SD-card, and I put the .pac file on my stages/melee-folder and making sure there is only one STGPIRATES.pac in that folder.

Then I start wii -> homebrew channel -> gecko os -> Codes loaded (with the PAL code 2.1a, since maps from other sites work) and then I choose some characters and I select the Pirate Ship stage!
However, it still freezes while the other edited stages (for example final destination) works fine.

*EDIT*

btw, what does the .rel file really do? Never understood its funtion :/


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: yoshimo on July 19, 2010, 05:58:54 PM
srry, I use riivolution, so I have no clue how gecko OS works. the files are properly named, but idk about folders. also, idk what the .rels do. my advice is maybe you should look for a video showing how to use custom stages with gecko OS.


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Chuy on July 19, 2010, 06:01:12 PM
>.> The rels tell what the stage to do
they're also used to swap stages which others
NTSC and PAL rels differ which will caused the game to freeze
also suggest using riivolution


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 19, 2010, 06:07:51 PM
>.> The rels tell what the stage to do
they're also used to swap stages which others
NTSC and PAL rels differ which will caused the game to freeze
also suggest using riivolution

Okay, I'll try that one. Gecko only reads a File replacement code for textures to work at the sd-card. Hmm, im not very good at expaining that :p

But, if I use riivolution, will it make blue moon battleship to work on my PAL wii, assuming that the creator of that stage is NTSC?


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: ??_? on July 19, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
you should also consider updating the file replacement code to 3.5.1, search here or on smashboards


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 19, 2010, 07:11:29 PM
you should also consider updating the file replacement code to 3.5.1, search here or on smashboards

I thought that 3.5.1 didnt exist yet for the PAL version?


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 19, 2010, 09:35:52 PM
>.> The rels tell what the stage to do
they're also used to swap stages which others
NTSC and PAL rels differ which will caused the game to freeze
also suggest using riivolution

Is it too much to ask you if you could make a step-by-step guide for me with riivolution? I have made the first step to put the programme in my apps-folder on the SD card, but now Im lost! :(


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: mnsg on July 20, 2010, 06:25:55 AM
you should also consider updating the file replacement code to 3.5.1, search here or on smashboards

That only exists for NTSC copies of Brawl.  Music hacking is limited to Riivolution for PAL users.


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: ??_? on July 20, 2010, 09:35:35 AM
you should also consider updating the file replacement code to 3.5.1, search here or on smashboards

That only exists for NTSC copies of Brawl.  Music hacking is limited to Riivolution for PAL users.
Ah ok, my bad


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 20, 2010, 01:35:16 PM
So, nobody got a clue about why only Kitty Corp custom stages freezes for me, and why stages from Smashboards works smoothly?

:(


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: mnsg on July 20, 2010, 02:56:10 PM
Some stages will only work with the proper region.  You must also take into consideration the file size of the stages, since they have to use less memory than normal when modified (if the stage PAC files have compressed contents).


Title: Re: None of the custom stages works for me (freezes at stage selection screen)! Help
Post by: Papuli on July 21, 2010, 07:33:57 PM
those stages I've tried to download weren't bigger than the old ones, thats the part that confuses me :( Is it possible that all stage-textures from kc-mm is restricted to NTSC or something? It would be weird since all the character textures from here works fine without any trouble!

/Papuli