I was just curious to what riivolution can do that gecko OS can't and the benefits of using both, this includes: functionality, ease of use, and anything else that would be good to know.
i use gecko because its simple and ive never used riivolution but riivolution can handle bigger file sizes and stuff but i heard its a pain in the a$$ to use sometimes
Riivo makes you keep the "_en" on some files but lets you use THPs.
By the way, does Riivolution support SD cards larger than 2 gig unlike gecko?
Riivolution is better can handle sound hacks
While Riivolution has better overall functionality due to no filesizelimit and support for SDHC it gets crippled by the fact that it's not as user friendly as Gecko and the creator's dogma of "not supporting piracy". Which means no support for USB loader, so people with broken disc drives like me are screwed.
Basically it's functionality VS availibility.
I use Gecko still because Riivolution seems to hardly work half the time for anybody, plus it doesn't support USB Loaders anyways. I use an ISO, so I don't have to worry about file size limits anyways, or even space on my SD Card. XD
I use riivolution which then links to a gct file for codes such as cameras.
It was originally the brawl+ loader for riivolution but I took out the plussery and left the camera and replay codes. If anyone wants it just pm me.
I use Riivolution so I can choose which hacks I want to use at startup. I have a really big code file with a lot of options.
My recommendation is, unless you have a reason to use Riivolution, go with Gecko.
I only use Riivolution when testing out music hacks. Everything else, I use Gecko OS.
Also, Gecko OS lets you update most files without having to restart your game. Whereas, for Riivolution, you have to restart your game each time you make any changes to ANY files.
Oh yeah, and Gecko OS lets you save stuff onto SD cards, which Riivolution isn't capable of.
Its not that Riivolution can't do it, it purposefully locks out the SD card to prevent crashing.
Quote from: chad3670 on August 02, 2010, 06:27:53 PM
Its not that Riivolution can't do it, it purposefully locks out the SD card to prevent crashing.
Which probably explains why your game crashes whenever you eject the SD card while using Riivolution. Happened to me at one time.
I use riivolution when I'm playing with my friends because it doesnt seem to crash with our trigger happy fingers, I use Gecko when I'm testing out new hacks and need to swap a lot.
Riivolution
Pros:
- Can replace all files from any game (not just Brawl)
- Has a no file size limit (haven't tested it myself)
- Has USB and SD support over 2gb
- Built in channel installer so you can load it from the Wii menu
Cons:
- Have to create .xml files to setup codes and file patching. Though there are premade ones out there
- Can't use the SD for things such as pics and replays if you're using the SD as your method of loading the files
- No Dantarion Alternate Stage Loader support. Only PW Stage Expansion code works.
- No USB loader/backup support
Gecko
Pros:
- SD card can be used to save pics and other stuff even when using the FPC
- Simpler to set up
- SD card can be removed without crashing.
Cons:
- Filesize limits
- Only replaces files for Brawl
- No USB support
- Doesn't replace all files like .THPs and Sound Effects
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Gecko and Riivolution should have a baby...
They wont do that because of their motto to not support piracy, and if I remember correctly Gecko can load backups. Besides riivolution can load ocarina codes just, if not better, than Gecko. Thats how I do my file replacement with Riivolution and extra cheats with ocarina at the same time.
I mostly use Riivolution because it's simple to me. But when I'm recording something, like a little portion for a machinima or something, I use Gecko.
I use Riivolution, but I'm still waiting for some sound effect hacks that interest me to come out. I haven't done too many hacks since I got Riivolution, but when I do need to take snapshots, I either use BrawlBox or switch over to Gecko for a bit.
I use Gecko because is simple, Riivolution dont work in my wii --'
i use both
gecko for sd cards
riivolution for usbs
Quote from: Pokechao on August 03, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
i use both
gecko for sd cards
riivolution for usbs
<_<
Is the loading speed from USBs with Riivolution any good?
Quote from: BeyondYou on August 03, 2010, 01:49:37 AM
Quote from: Pokechao on August 03, 2010, 01:46:33 AM
i use both
gecko for sd cards
riivolution for usbs
<_<
Is the loading speed from USBs with Riivolution any good?
Geco is for sd and usb and rivolution for sd ?
For me, I find that loading files from a USB flash drive with Riivolution is slower than using my microSD card with Gecko; but I also have a 2GB SD card that is just as slow when used with either one.
To clarify, Both Gecko and Riivolution load their respective codes off of SD/USB. They don't load games off of USB.
I don't know if anyone brought this up yet, but Riivolution also has RiiFS, which lets you keep all your files on your computer, lets you change them and they'll be updated in game (kinda like Gecko), and you can stream stuff from servers (I think Bionic Sonic has a RiiFS server for mods or something?).
However, the loading time is just terrible, and you still can't save things to the SD card or take your SD card out of the slot. It's also difficult to set up for some people.
I think you can use the SD card in Brawl while using RiiFS, as long as you've got the newest versions of both RiiFS and Riivolution. Start Riivolution without the SD card in and the RiiFS server running, and they should find each other automatically.
Quote from: crashouti on August 03, 2010, 09:00:21 PM
I have 4.3U and i can use texture and more with geco,
and emu for wii
Quote from: crashouti on August 03, 2010, 10:39:44 PM
bannerbomb dont worc for 4.3, I use stac smash (sd hacing custom stage)
BTW(I choose ramdom in mode brawl because its freeze when im choose the stage --)
riivolution dont worc for me
I want to use Riivolution but my Nintendo Wii can't read Compact Disks
I think you are mistaken, Wii reads DVDs or digital video disks not CDs. Either way a broken disk drive sucks. If you are brave enough you can find replacements on eBay.
I forgot omg (I am so stupid!) I have made so many reviews for the damn Playstation that I faild at that post...
for sound, there is riivo, for everything else, there's gecko
I mainly use RiiVo, but that's because I also use hacks on games which don't have a File Replacement Code (like NSMBWii). Also, I want to load custom music but the most recent FR-Code hasn't been ported to Pal....
I like Riivolution but i have problems loading rels, if someone know how to load Rel files in Riivo please tell me.
There's a Help section, y'know.
Good jump for bumping a four year old thread.