Title: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 06, 2010, 10:50:49 PM Well I'm pretty satisfied with my new sonic psa, all he needs is a few changes to his specials and he'll be a whole new sonic! Here's a teaser vid for ya'll to enjoy while I put the finishing touches on Version 1.00 :3 I'm hoping the next version will have specials, but I'm not making any promises.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfiTwUPHYCs Download!: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=10616&Moderated=All Note: These Changes are for the latest version of him which I'm trying to test now (I'm havin trouble getting codes to work atm >_>) I will release the new version once all the planned changes have been made. Dark Sonic Version 1.00 Current Changes: 1:All of sonics moves(attackwise) besides throws, trips, and cliff attacks all have extra damage, just enough to give him a little extra punch. 2: All of his moves(attack wise) besides throws, trips and cliff attacks all have darkness element. 3:If you touch him while he's running, walking, dashing, or waiting.(this doesn't include the squat wait, and squat animations) You will take some damage and dark element. Current graphical changes: 1: All of his animations have a small purple burst graphic attatched to the FFFFFFE bone(Thank you hollow for the tip) Planned Changes: version 1.00 Moveset: 1: His usual hitboxes for his down B will be replaced with the hitboxes from nayru's love, they will do a bit more damage and have an electric element. 2: His Side B will also be replaced with the hitboxes from nayru's love, they will do more damage and have a darkness element. 3: He'll jump higher on the first and second jump 4:He'll run faster than usual (not by much) 5:He'll be able to summon the assist trophy for Shadow with his up taunt. (I find it rather fitting) 6: All moves that don't have extra damage/darkness element will have them. Planned Changes Graphics: 1: His down B will have electric sparks surrounding him for the duration of the attack 2:His shoes will have new colors 3: His Side B will have healing visuals (mainly cause they look nice XD) Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 06, 2010, 11:20:09 PM Sorry for the double post, but I'm afraid that I may not be able to release dark sonic any time soon . Unless somebody knows a way I can cut his .pac file in half.....
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: cyberdark on August 07, 2010, 12:27:24 AM i can,t wait dark sonic best of luck
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 12:31:36 AM i can,t wait dark sonic best of luck yeah I might just leave him the way he was in the vid lol except the planned changes for his moves if I can get them working.Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: ADJSonic on August 07, 2010, 01:32:07 PM u need brand new specials or this is just another elemental.
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 01:34:50 PM u need brand new specials or this is just another elemental. Hes going to have a new attack for his down and side B, but I'm not sure if it's going to work or not.Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Velen on August 07, 2010, 02:12:04 PM I have a few ideas for specials that can replace all of this specials.
B: Malice Rush: Dark Super Sonic quickly [censored]s his fist back, then launches forward with his fist outstretched. This functions similarly to C.Falcon's Raptor Boost, but goes farther, and moves faster. If used in the air, Dark Super Sonic can be sent in three different directions: Diagonally up, Forward, and Diagonally Down. The first two put Sonic into Special Fall. The last one doesn't, and allows him to follow up with any aerial or special besides Malice Rush. Side B: Devil's Combo: Dark Super Sonic goes into a rapid series of punches and kicks that much be augmented by the player. Works exactly like Marth's Side B, but each one ends with a special darkness move. When used in the air, Dark Super Sonic simply performs a series of five rapid kicks that make him float upward a little bit until the attack end. Each Kick has darkness element. Down B: Dark Typhoon: Dark Super Sonic spins around furiously, creating a large funnel of wind around him. This move has a large, vertical hitbox. It functions similarly to Luigi's Cyclone attack, and has a lot of hits, but each hit does a set amount of damage, and the KB is also set. Up B: Rage Launch: DSS launches himself into an arc at high speed, similarly to Fire Fox and Fire Falco when the Control Stick is held between diagonal-up and up position. This move has a mediocre horizontal movement, but has a large vertical climb. Anybody who is hit one the way up will be hit with large KB and little damage. Like his Spring Jump, Sonic goes into special fall, but is able to perform aerials and move slightly. Your thoughts? Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 02:40:33 PM Hmm, the fire fox idea sounds doable at my skill level XP I'm not making any promises.
I plan for his down B to be a huricane ish move, it will have a wind graphic around him and the hitboxes will be like Nayru's love for the duration of the attack. It'll have the hitboxes while he's charging too, but they'll do less damage. HOPEFULLY if you release the controll stick before you release B he'll return to his standing position His side B will be similar to Sheiks Side Smash A completely charged. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: ADJSonic on August 07, 2010, 03:13:31 PM good ideas.
but narumaster's side B is better fitting. and up b has to be teleport oh and u need to make his one his taunts similar to wave's full throtle moveset Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 03:23:29 PM good ideas. but narumaster's side B is better fitting. and up b has to be teleport oh and u need to make his one his taunts similar to wave's full throtle moveset Blegh I hate copying people that way, it makes things feel halfassed when I'm done XD Anyway I think I'm gonna release the non-special version when I finish redoing it today. Do you mean teleport like Zelda's Up B? Hmm that might work XP though I'd have to finish up the non special one first. Can anyone please explain how to make meh a custom CSP and victory screen portrait? Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: ADJSonic on August 07, 2010, 03:56:01 PM portaits are unediteble but only the ones for the result screens.
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Velen on August 07, 2010, 05:38:14 PM good ideas. but narumaster's side B is better fitting. and up b has to be teleport oh and u need to make his one his taunts similar to wave's full throtle moveset I disagree. Sonic doesn't teleport, barring Chao's Control, which he needs an Emerald for. Besides, he has canonically used Chaos Control during Sonic Adventure 2, and only during that game, he has not used Chaos Control unaided by Shadow or anyone else capable of it since then. I think the Rage Launch idea is more fitting considering how fast DSS is. So the move would be very fast. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: ADJSonic on August 07, 2010, 05:40:53 PM well sonic is faster than the speed of light so u couldn't really see him so a real quick teleport is kinda like him moving at the speed of light.
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 06:12:44 PM good ideas. but narumaster's side B is better fitting. and up b has to be teleport oh and u need to make his one his taunts similar to wave's full throtle moveset I disagree. Sonic doesn't teleport, barring Chao's Control, which he needs an Emerald for. Besides, he has canonically used Chaos Control during Sonic Adventure 2, and only during that game, he has not used Chaos Control unaided by Shadow or anyone else capable of it since then. I think the Rage Launch idea is more fitting considering how fast DSS is. So the move would be very fast. I'm going to stick with my original down B idea Black Wind. At first the move is normal with a bit more damage, but if you hold down B it has the hitboxes of Zelda's Neutral B for the duration of the attack. It'll only become the more powerful Black Tornado while you're holding the B button. That's the only way I can think to do it without screwing it up. Can anyone here tell me how to use the go to? I keep trying to write it right in the numbers. but it always has three 0's before or after the numbers. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Velen on August 07, 2010, 06:34:57 PM well sonic is faster than the speed of light so u couldn't really see him so a real quick teleport is kinda like him moving at the speed of light. You're mistaken. Sonic is faster than the speed of sound. Super Sonic is also faster than the speed of sound, but nowhere near the speed of light. Dark Super Sonic just like normal Super Sonic except he is hatred-driven. Hence the evil giggle he gives before destroying Gold and Silver. I just wish the voice actors were better at their job. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 06:56:07 PM well sonic is faster than the speed of light so u couldn't really see him so a real quick teleport is kinda like him moving at the speed of light. You're mistaken. Sonic is faster than the speed of sound. Super Sonic is also faster than the speed of sound, but nowhere near the speed of light. Dark Super Sonic just like normal Super Sonic except he is hatred-driven. Hence the evil giggle he gives before destroying Gold and Silver. I just wish the voice actors were better at their job. I think it's cause light travels so fast that we can't see it, but when sonic moves in any show/game you dont just see 'nothing' You do however see a very blurred image of him running. (The background is blurred like he's moving VERY fast. A very clever animation trick I admit) Though I don't think dark sonic is a proper "super" form, he would've required the chaos emeralds to do that. Then again there were a bunch of fakes around. Maybe that had something to do with it. But can we please stay on topic here -_-;; Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Velen on August 07, 2010, 07:03:49 PM Okay then.
I think some other attacks should also be changed. Like for example. Some Tilts could be furious, multi-hitting attacks: For example: FTilt should consist of a punch and kick combo not too dissimilar to the Sonic: Full Throttle, but not as lengthy. Basically they should be moves that symbolize Sonic's malice and rage as Dark Super Sonic. The same goes for the Smashes. Just something to think about in future versions. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! (Just a demo vid for now) Post by: Naruto200Man on August 07, 2010, 07:20:50 PM Okay then. I think some other attacks should also be changed. Like for example. Some Tilts could be furious, multi-hitting attacks: For example: FTilt should consist of a punch and kick combo not too dissimilar to the Sonic: Full Throttle, but not as lengthy. Basically they should be moves that symbolize Sonic's malice and rage as Dark Super Sonic. The same goes for the Smashes. Just something to think about in future versions. Yeah, dangit I can't change anything the way I want to special wise without screwing it up X_X;; I think i'll stick to the elemental changes and having more power/speed than usual sonic should be enough for now. I mean most of his attacks do like up to 10 damage or a little more than that when usually they only do like 4 or 5 xD Pluss the dark element which is kinda cool anyway. I tried to change his up smash A hitboxes when he's spinning you around to ice, but it didn't freeze you. so I switched it to. Dark > Electric > Dark with additional damage. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 08, 2010, 04:07:28 PM Just posting to say that I updated the op! download available as soon as it's approved by the moderators :3
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Helix on August 08, 2010, 06:21:14 PM I can't wait to get this, You should look at lexx dark sonic and use the blue aura or something .
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 08, 2010, 06:32:01 PM I can't wait to get this, You should look at lexx dark sonic and use the blue aura or something . Nah dark smoke is more fitting I think, it doesn't clash with the texture when he's waiting and blends in with the coloring. ^_^ and he's in the brawl vault already btw :3 I really wish there was a way to change the colors of the graphic, but just for that psa. Just imagine the posibilities! @_@ I may make a BRSTM of Heaven Shaking Event and use it in place of battlefield. It puts me in sucha good mood to brawl Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 09, 2010, 12:32:48 PM Bump for the sexy and canonically loyal dark sonic hack :3
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Thundaga_T2 on August 09, 2010, 03:46:31 PM It would be really cool if you could use the falling part of ganon's Side+B+air as sonic's down air. Dont make it grab, but have it drag people down with him (like ZSS's down air). Seems like a evilish type move that would look good on him.
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 09, 2010, 04:01:04 PM It would be really cool if you could use the falling part of ganon's Side+B+air as sonic's down air. Dont make it grab, but have it drag people down with him (like ZSS's down air). Seems like a evilish type move that would look good on him. I'm still learning the psa stuff, so I'm afraid I can't make advanced stuff yet. But at some point I do intend to give dark sonic some new moves that Sonic doesn't have. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Velen on August 09, 2010, 05:25:40 PM It would be really cool if you could use the falling part of ganon's Side+B+air as sonic's down air. Dont make it grab, but have it drag people down with him (like ZSS's down air). Seems like a evilish type move that would look good on him. I'm still learning the psa stuff, so I'm afraid I can't make advanced stuff yet. But at some point I do intend to give dark sonic some new moves that Sonic doesn't have. Here is a suggest when you get more experienced. Make of Sonid's throws act like Bowser's Flying Slam, and nother act like the final part of Alex's (From Street Fighter) Hyper Bomb. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 11, 2010, 04:49:06 PM It would be really cool if you could use the falling part of ganon's Side+B+air as sonic's down air. Dont make it grab, but have it drag people down with him (like ZSS's down air). Seems like a evilish type move that would look good on him. I'm still learning the psa stuff, so I'm afraid I can't make advanced stuff yet. But at some point I do intend to give dark sonic some new moves that Sonic doesn't have. Here is a suggest when you get more experienced. Make of Sonid's throws act like Bowser's Flying Slam, and nother act like the final part of Alex's (From Street Fighter) Hyper Bomb. I haven't gone into creating animations, but I'm hoping to do a lil experiment with his taunts and up smash Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: ADJSonic on August 11, 2010, 05:05:17 PM uh u can just do this and most animations will look perfect....
copy frame o into frame 1.Then copy frame 2 into frame 1. But if their animation is upside down u have to make his t- stance up side down then copy it onto frame 1. then ur done oh wait this for sonic nevermind watch dingo's tut. Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: cyberdark on August 18, 2010, 05:21:15 PM NaruZeldaMaster thanks for making dark sonic
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 18, 2010, 06:12:17 PM NaruZeldaMaster thanks for making dark sonic No problem, you're toing to [censored] yourself when you see the next sonic I make *imitates ganondorfs laugh perfectly*Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Helix on August 21, 2010, 06:12:32 PM You need a final smash for this .
Title: Re: Project Dark Sonic! UPDATE! New Demo Vid and Download available! Post by: Naruto200Man on August 21, 2010, 06:47:47 PM You need a final smash for this . I'm still trying to think of one XD I need someone better at psaing to help me on that -_-;; Hehehe you're gonna like my next idea too. He doesn't have anything in his final smash though....I'm having problems getting it to work. |