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Title: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: GoingDigital on August 31, 2010, 08:32:13 PM
Hey everyone,

I'm not too good at texture hacking. I'm told I'm beast at art, but my BrawlBox is malfunctioning.

So I was wondering... Would a Blastoise cover-over Gengar be possible?
I'm thinking, Gengar model import/vertex hack.
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New PSA, all moves dark-attributed, ofcourse.

MOVES
B-Up: Hypnosis (lasts a bit longer, based on Jigglypuff's Sing)
B-Side: Shadow Punch (With the power of Charizard's Rock Smash, but not Kirby's Hammer)
B-Down: Shadow Sneak (kinda like MetaKnight's B-Down?)
B: Dark Void (stationary attack, but somewhat deadly), or Shadow Ball! (Easily jacked from Lucario.)

A-Up: Jumps up, small burst of darkness
A-Side: Just a Tackle-sort of thing, kinda like Ivysaur's A-Smash(side)
A-Down: Spins around, easily stolen from some character
A: Lick?

Jumps lightly, like Higgly or Kirbs. Moderate knockback.

If possible:
TAUNTS

Taunt: Grrs. Just like, Charizard-style, I suppose.
Side-Taunt: Eyes glow bright red
Down-Taunt: Flings tongue around
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I'm sorry, I know I really shouldn't be asking for a texture like this, and I know I can't expect what I'm thinking of. I'm trying to learn right now, but my Vista doesn't work with BBv063d.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on August 31, 2010, 10:25:53 PM
there is a Kirby Gengar texture, perhaps I can make a Gengar PSA using Kirby :)

oh this should have been in the request thread XD


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Iced_Shadows on August 31, 2010, 10:33:59 PM
...I support this idea so much, you've no idea. I am a HUGE Gengar fanatic. It's my favorite character of all, next to Meta Knight (Thank God he made it into Brawl on his own!)

If anybody makes a great and balanced PSA for Gengar, I will be a happy camper  :happy:

Also, Dark Void isn't a move Gengar can learn in the actual Pokemon games. Not only that, but it just puts things to sleep, so making it do damage doesn't really make too much sense. Shadow Ball for B, as "boring" as it may be, makes much more sense. Despite the fact Gengar can't learn Dark Void, it would make for a cool Final Smash similar to Peach's, though it should also put GIANT flowers upon their heads for the Nightmare effect. =] Hypnosis should also utilize flowers for a Nightmare effect.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on August 31, 2010, 10:41:11 PM
...I support this idea so much, you've no idea. I am a HUGE Gengar fanatic. It's my favorite character of all, next to Meta Knight (Thank God he made it into Brawl on his own!)

If anybody makes a great and balanced PSA for Gengar, I will be a happy camper  :happy:

Also, Dark Void isn't a move Gengar can learn in the actual Pokemon games. Not only that, but it just puts things to sleep, so making it do damage doesn't really make too much sense. Shadow Ball for B, as "boring" as it may be, makes much more sense. Despite the fact Gengar can't learn Dark Void, it would make for a cool Final Smash similar to Peach's, though it should also put GIANT flowers upon their heads for the Nightmare effect. =] Hypnosis should also utilize flowers for a Nightmare effect.

yeah I can give Kirby a charging shadow ball move ;D.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Iced_Shadows on August 31, 2010, 11:12:47 PM
...I support this idea so much, you've no idea. I am a HUGE Gengar fanatic. It's my favorite character of all, next to Meta Knight (Thank God he made it into Brawl on his own!)

If anybody makes a great and balanced PSA for Gengar, I will be a happy camper  :happy:

Also, Dark Void isn't a move Gengar can learn in the actual Pokemon games. Not only that, but it just puts things to sleep, so making it do damage doesn't really make too much sense. Shadow Ball for B, as "boring" as it may be, makes much more sense. Despite the fact Gengar can't learn Dark Void, it would make for a cool Final Smash similar to Peach's, though it should also put GIANT flowers upon their heads for the Nightmare effect. =] Hypnosis should also utilize flowers for a Nightmare effect.

yeah I can give Kirby a charging shadow ball move ;D.

Awesome sauce! =D This could potentially be the start of a really great thing. I would main Gengar if he's made well enough! Then again, even if he's made well enough to be a decent playable character in Vanilla Brawl, I only play Brawl Minus... =S It is also an issue with the current Mewtwo PSA, heh.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Link40 on September 01, 2010, 05:57:29 AM
Awesome idea ! Gengar is also one of my favorite pokemons, it would be so great if someone made a hack of him ! Will you import the model or make a vertex hack ?


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Iced_Shadows on September 01, 2010, 10:47:24 AM
There's already two vertexed Gengars in the vault. As far as I know, there would only be a moveset being made FOR those two Gengars.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: GoingDigital on September 01, 2010, 01:01:12 PM
When I upgrade to Windows 7 (which I have been putting off on installing), I'll put my tablet to work, and I can colour/draw the texture. However, I'll need a vertex/model-maker...

Anyone good with model imports or vertex hacking?

-GoDigi


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Iced_Shadows on September 15, 2010, 11:44:49 AM
Anyone still want to work on this?


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: xxmasal22xx on December 27, 2010, 01:58:46 AM
Anyone still want to work on this?

U wanna genera import? I'm your man. I'll do all refilled and CEOs as well as importing him. Who is he going over and is he using his own costume animations or using the animations of whoever he is over?


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on December 27, 2010, 04:06:41 AM
It would be better imo if you did it over Wario since he literally has no PSAs.  You can use Aafyre's vertex.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: fighter20brawler10 on December 27, 2010, 11:31:43 AM
It would be better imo if you did it over Wario since he literally has no PSAs.  You can use Aafyre's vertex.

There is that Greedy Wario PSA but it's nothing but switched around moves


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on December 27, 2010, 04:03:56 PM
Wario has NO PSAs due to his odd bone labeling.
Look at his .pac file in PSA.

Adding anything (GFX AND Hitboxes included) using those IDs WILL Cause the game to freeze.
Trying to use the normal IDs will cause it to be correct in one costume but will be misplaced in the other.
You have to use ID 0 and use the X and Y offsets wisely to move the hitboxes and GFX for snything new.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: xxmasal22xx on December 28, 2010, 07:47:43 AM
Anyone still want to work on this?

U wanna genera import? I'm your man. I'll do all refilled and CEOs as well as importing him. Who is he going over and is he using his own costume animations or using the animations of whoever he is over?

U wanna GENGAR import? I'm your man. I'll do all RECOLORS and CSP's as well as importing him. Who is he going over and is he using his own COSTOM animations or using the animations of whoever he is over?........sorry....typo's the first time (using an ipod touch then)

Oh, and i will try to put over....Ganon? Dedede?


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: xZedkiel on December 28, 2010, 01:40:11 PM
Put him on Dedede :D Darkrai's on Ganon. Oh and one more typo, Custom lolz.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on December 28, 2010, 02:34:01 PM
Put him on Dedede :D Darkrai's on Ganon. Oh and one more typo, Custom lolz.

Doesn't Dedede have a corrupt pac file?


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Gamma Ridley on December 28, 2010, 02:37:10 PM
Doesn't Dedede have a corrupt pac file?

I think PSA v1.3 can open Dedede's .pac file, if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on December 28, 2010, 02:42:59 PM
Doesn't Dedede have a corrupt pac file?

I think PSA v1.3 can open Dedede's .pac file, if I'm not mistaken.

Nope, I tried it out  just now with v1.3 and it doesn't open. lol


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Gamma Ridley on December 28, 2010, 02:44:27 PM
Nope, I tried it out  just now with v1.3 and it doesn't open. lol

Really? Maybe I'm thinking of Tabuu then...


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on December 28, 2010, 02:47:03 PM
Nope, I tried it out  just now with v1.3 and it doesn't open. lol

Really? Maybe I'm thinking of Tabuu then...

Yeah, Tabuu works.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on December 28, 2010, 02:52:16 PM
If worse comes to worse with not finding Dedede's working .pac file, just use KingJigglypuff's Enhanced Dedede as your basis since that is a working .pac file.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: DivineOverlord on December 28, 2010, 02:57:09 PM
If worse comes to worse with not finding Dedede's working .pac file, just use KingJigglypuff's Enhanced Dedede as your basis since that is a working .pac file.

Are you sure about that in regards to KingJigglypuff's enhanced Dedede? I tried it out just out of curiosity and it also won't open using Smash Attack v0.2 and v1.3...I remember KingJiggs saying it was difficult getting it to open but there is a way. :P


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: xxmasal22xx on December 28, 2010, 09:53:23 PM
If worse comes to worse with not finding Dedede's working .pac file, just use KingJigglypuff's Enhanced Dedede as your basis since that is a working .pac file.

Are you sure about that in regards to KingJigglypuff's enhanced Dedede? I tried it out just out of curiosity and it also won't open using Smash Attack v0.2 and v1.3...I remember KingJiggs saying it was difficult getting it to open but there is a way. :P


jesus. king dedede is a pain...imma try it...


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: MaskedMan on December 31, 2010, 02:30:34 PM
You must use Dantarions PSAMod v1.3 to open the Dedede file. I have tried it because I wanted to make a Crystal King PSA over Dedede, but the PSAMod v1.3 gives really bad memory inflation, and you will not be able to make many changes at all before the file gets too big.

There may be another program to open it, but I know KingJigglypuff used Dantarion's PSAMod to make his enhanced Dedede


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: Sajiao Omelette on January 01, 2011, 12:38:45 AM
Using "Save As" instead of "Save" should make it so you never get those file compression fails, I think.


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: MaskedMan on January 01, 2011, 01:07:56 AM
Using "Save As" instead of "Save" should make it so you never get those file compression fails, I think.

I did that with the Dedede file, and I still got terrible memory inflation. Maybe that only works with the PT, I don't know


Title: Re: A REAL Gengar hack?
Post by: xxmasal22xx on January 02, 2011, 12:43:32 PM
Using "Save As" instead of "Save" should make it so you never get those file compression fails, I think.

I did that with the Dedede file, and I still got terrible memory inflation. Maybe that only works with the PT, I don't know

Aight, heres the deal, fitdedede00.pac opens and saves fine with brawlbox modset 4.0,
If i port gengar from pokepark onto dedede, i need someone to rename the bones and fix the animations, in other words, make him use dedede's animations.