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Title: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 03:13:44 PM Not exactly that but I vertexed Peach's right shoulder ball, I tried re-making it on the other ball, but it turns out to be an epic fail! Is there anyway that I could make her left shoulder ball the exact same shape as her right? I tried hexing, I took both the vertex sets for each ball and the model and put them into HxD. I copied the hex values of the left ball and search for them in her model file, then, once i found them, I copied the hex values of her right ball and pasted them over the left balls values. But it messed up and when you look at it in BB, its very spikey and the texture I put on it is darker than the right side. Being familiar with Peach's balls(xD), the left one is flipped upside down when vertexing it, so when I hexed it, it was right-side up. So I flipped it up-side down and that still didn't fix it. So does anyone know what I could do?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 03:35:56 PM you need to take the values for the R shoulder and scale them to X = -1
that should help :) if you need help on doing that, let me know :/ Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DrPanda on September 24, 2010, 03:42:28 PM Do you use 3dsmax?
You could use the morpher tool, then rotate it back if you do. Otherwise I'd suggest doing them both again, but do them both at the same time so that they match. EDIT: Or what Tcll said... It would probably work out better like that anyway Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 03:43:53 PM Yea, could you explain a little more of how to do so? I'm not quite sure as to what you meant.
And no I don't use 3DSMax, it won't let me install it on my CPU... So I still use Anim8or. I'm about to upload some pics of what I did and what I want to do. EDIT: (http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o440/zac_268/Failure.png) Alright I want the Left Shoulder to be exactly like the Right Shoulder. I hate how the Left Shoulder is up-side down when you vertex it with Anim8or. Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 04:28:02 PM I'm not sure as to what you're doing... :/
how/what are you doing to get the sholders like that?? Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 04:50:03 PM It's vertexing. I Re-shaped the shoulder balls into sleeves. and i can't get the left sleeve to look right, in-game the right sleeve is find but the left is not, it sticks out. i want both sleeves to look exacty alike, just one on the left and one on the right, do you want a picture of the whole model with the sleeves on? would that help?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 06:24:51 PM all I can really think of for you to do is: (it's easier to explain in math)
Rshoulder = for (vertex): return X,Y,Z Lshoulder = (Rshoulder *= -1) basically saying to * the Rshoulder vert offsets by -1, and adjust the Lshoulder vert offsets to those #'s Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 06:31:44 PM I'm sorry but... ¡No comprende! :-\
I don't understand what you mean by that or how to do it... I feel like I know nothing now that I read that! XD Is there anyway to explain into further detail on how to do so or am I just gonna have to ask someone do it for me? Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 06:50:14 PM I'm sorry but... ¡No comprende! :-\ I don't understand what you mean by that or how to do it... I feel like I know nothing now that I read that! XD Is there anyway to explain into further detail on how to do so or am I just gonna have to ask someone do it for me? if I had my cpu, or at least my wireless Kbd, I'd explain it alot better... blender would be alot easier to obtain and apply the vert offsets... I'd do it for ya, but... no cpu... only on Wii with stupid wii-mote on Opera channel >:/ Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 06:58:55 PM What happened to your CPU?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 07:03:52 PM mom took it and I'm trying to get it back... >_>
EDIT: but now it has no net... she took the freakin w-less card in it >:/ Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 07:09:10 PM Ugh! That sux, like REALLY SUX!! Your so into what you do, and yet your Mom won't let you do it... I know the feeling.
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 07:21:22 PM well, I'm glad I'm not alone...
thanx :) gawd I feel like a kid beggin for a fudgebar mom's holding, but won't let you have and eats it in front of you... Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 07:39:45 PM I've got a big list of stuff to do...
some of it I still can't rmbr... but yea... http://tcll5850.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=44&page=1 you should be able to view it, just not post in it... (unless you subscribe) but yea... lotza crap I can't do right now... :/ some of it I can finish in at least an hour... Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 07:43:07 PM Ur welcome.
I can't wait tell I'm done with this Peach vertexture! I think people gonna love it. So I guess I'm just gonna have to wait until you get your cpu back, huh? I can wait XD At least I'll get some help. So what exactly do you do with all your spare time?? EDIT: Well now I know XD That's almost too much! Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 07:47:51 PM heh...
it is too much... but I can tell you... I tell you what to do... it'd just be alot easier if I could find my usb Kbd reciever... anyways... I'll post instructions in my next post... Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 07:54:59 PM Alright, thank you soooo much! The sooner I get Annie(the vertexture of Peach) into the vault, I can start working on my Halloween texture for someone. It's nice to have sisters with creative minds like mine ^-^ They help me make stuff by critiqueing them lol But they do it in a good way, so that way when I finish the texture, it looks AWESOME!
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:05:04 PM KK so...
it's way easier to use blender... export your peach edit from Anim8or as obj... import that into blender, and hit 'Tab' to go into edit mode... 'N' gives you your Transform Properties... (you need these) select (R-click) a vertex on the right shoulder the properties should give you the XYZ offsets for the selected vert (memorize or write down those #'s) now select the same vert on the left shoulder, and input the -XYZ values in the properties. (the #'s you copied) use mouse wheel button to rotate view. do this for every vert you need :) if you need anything furthur explained, let me know :) Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:15:36 PM Alright, thank you. But before I start, once I get the XYZ offsets and input them into the other shoulders vertex point, will the vertex point move in the exact same spot as the one I got the XYZ vaules from?
Like this: |= vertex point #1(left shoulder) \\=vertex point #2(right shoulder) First: | \\ After getting the values and inputting them. \|\ Or will it be like this: \\ \\ Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:20:19 PM I said -XYZ
front view (top view) Lsholder X: 2.54### Rsholder X: -2.54### XYZ * (-1) = (-XYZ) Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:25:39 PM OH! DUH! I didn't know what the - infront of XYZ was XD So make the XYZ values negative and that will work, thats what I thought, since the nagative values would be opposite. Now I just gotta find, download, install and learn how to use Blender! That shouldn't be that hard. Is Blender, for Brawl modeling, good to use or at the least easy?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:34:06 PM I use it for game dev...
but 3DS is game dev too :P blender just has alot of buttons... I use the Kbd shortcuts more than the buttons... but yea... umm... I keep saying XYZ... just change the X value to neg... use pos Y and Z values if needed :P Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:35:57 PM Yea, to get technical just multiply every corridinate by -1 and input the new corridinate on the opposite vertex. Right?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:39:45 PM Yea, to get technical just multiply every corridinate by -1 and input the new corridinate on the opposite vertex. Right? exactly :) Y and Z values may not be needed :) Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:41:39 PM Ok, well I can do that with Anim8or, its just soooooo tedious!!!
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:44:23 PM oh you can 0.o
kk... I didin't know... EDIT: I still suggest blender :) Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:47:31 PM Can you see the model in Blender while you edit it? Like in 3DSMax?
Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: DarkPikachu on September 24, 2010, 08:57:19 PM yea...
if the obj includes faces... :/ Title: Re: Vertex Copying? Post by: TheZac268™ on September 24, 2010, 08:58:20 PM And do they have faces?
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