Title: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 05, 2011, 11:39:59 PM So I'm really starting to think I want to replace Metaknight with Grey Fox, however this seems to be a conundrum. :srs:
On one hand Grey Fox is just straight up badace! :rage: And I'm a huge fan of the MGS series. On the other hand I think Metaknight is the coolest character from the Kirby universe and he's just all around pretty awesome. :af: Therefore I find myself stuck. :>.>palm: What have you all done? Anyone replaced him? And if so how did you feel afterwards? And yes I realize there are much more important things in life, however this is important to me....at the moment... :>.>: Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Eternal Yoshi on June 06, 2011, 02:19:50 AM MK was so overpowered, so I replaced him and don't miss him.
If you care, with the right codes, you can port Gray Fox over someone else. Essentially, I banned him from my game. XD Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 06, 2011, 02:37:29 PM Haha nice! He definitely is OP. I think I'll go ahead and replace him, as I'll still have Kirby and D3 from that universe. Besides I've always felt Snake needs a nemesis to battle in Brawl! :af2:
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 07, 2011, 06:19:58 AM ...<_> Yet if you go against him in Classic mode, he's going in the Halberd stage. What.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Enigmatic on June 07, 2011, 06:59:55 AM I personally prefer Metaknight. It feels more polished than the Gray Fox PSA (but that is to be expected), and I think that he has a generally funner playstyle. But that is just my opinion. Try it out first then you decide.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Eternal Yoshi on June 07, 2011, 07:44:47 AM ...<_> Yet if you go against him in Classic mode, he's going in the Halberd stage. What. You can mod the files of Classic and All-Star to change the stage you play him on. -_- Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Jaklub on June 07, 2011, 07:49:10 AM You can mod the files of Classic and All-Star to change the stage you play him on. -_- Any tutorial or at least info about changing Classic and All-Star modes? I'd like to do that stuff.Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Eternal Yoshi on June 07, 2011, 07:52:49 AM You need Tabuu for this.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288062 I had a thread on Kc-mm but it got buried.... You can change the character order in All-Star mode. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: OmegaMalkior on June 07, 2011, 08:57:27 PM How about just port MK on Lucas/Olimar and Gray over MK? (Since Eternal has everything prepared for over MK)
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 07, 2011, 11:48:43 PM Don't be a damn fool, Gray Fox would kick his ass!
Snake needs Raiden to fight with... Dunno, I find Gray Fox glitchy, and it appears to glitch a lot. Maybe it's just me. If you have the same problem stay with MK... Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Eternal Yoshi on June 08, 2011, 12:15:27 AM Umm....... I fixed the bugs with Gray Fox already and fixing the hurtboxes fixed things like Polygon streteching when he climbs a ladder, gets C4'd, Homing attacked, etc.
If there's something I may have missed, post in mah thread. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 08, 2011, 05:35:47 AM I dunno, I know Gray Fox is NTSC only but I didn't see any problems on him on the PAL disc, despite the whole "soundless" ordeal.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Tempo_ on June 08, 2011, 06:54:13 AM I have no glitches with Gray Fox.
In a CPU vs CPU, he can even beat Meta Knight. :O But what do CPU's know, right? Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Akiba Red on June 08, 2011, 09:24:23 AM How about just port MK on Lucas/Olimar and Gray over MK? (Since Eternal has everything prepared for over MK) Why would you port MK...?Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Allbait on June 08, 2011, 11:28:18 AM I have no glitches with Gray Fox. In a CPU vs CPU, he can even beat Meta Knight. :O EternalYoshi did an awesome job with Gray Fox, he actually did so well he made the CPU AI in Gray Fox the most awesome one in all of Brawl. So what I'm saying is: In a CPU vs CPU battle Gray Fox always wins and its also so awesome that I can't even remember what Metaknight was like. Get Gray Fox, Kirby has KD3 :P Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 08, 2011, 12:16:38 PM I think it's just my Wii....
I can't even play Brawl anymore, or any other Wii games. My Wii dosn't read discs anymore. It's been like this for about 2 weeks, thought I should tell you. The game froze while I was playing Wii tennis and then I tried to put the disc back in and it said error. I bought a disc cleaner and tried to fix it but no. It's a technical issue... Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: OmegaMalkior on June 09, 2011, 11:26:42 AM Why would you port MK...? Because Eternal prepared a full package port for GF over MK. He has GF's BPs over MK's BPs, GF's result screen portrait over MK's.`Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 17, 2011, 09:01:05 AM It's called: "Port it over someone useless like Diddy Kong or Olimar"
I'm sure if you ask ome of the porters, they'll be more than welcome to do so. :kdance: Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 18, 2011, 01:06:37 PM Olimar is difficult to replace due to the presence of the Pikmin.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 18, 2011, 01:08:10 PM <<-- Do I need to explain my pic
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 10:44:40 AM Look at it this way. Gray Fox vs. Metaknight = Metal Gear Solid vs. Kirby Franchise
Of course, Metal Gear Solid wins. In that case, Gray Fox wins. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 11:21:50 AM Well if they were able to port Cloud over Olimar successfully, then I don't see any reason why Grey Fox can't be the same.
Again: <<--- Do I need to give a reminder? I wouldn't mind getting rid of DDD, though, cause this Grey Fox project sounds interesting. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 11:48:11 AM I wouldn't mind getting rid of DDD, though, cause this Grey Fox project sounds interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AzVGy6G9CM Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 11:52:33 AM Uh, yeah, he's gotta be in SSBBL, that was vicious! Gotta try and port him over DDD!
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 11:59:56 AM There should be a texture hack for Gray Fox, that just makes him covered in his victim's blood, much like the cutscene.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 12:02:17 PM Is thee moveset glitche free though?
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 12:04:26 PM The latest version is now glitch-free : ).
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 12:07:45 PM Nice! ;D The only problem is that it's over MetaKnight and that turns me away from it. :(
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 12:09:27 PM Gray Fox is like a stronger Meta Knight but with a projectile and a faster moveset.
His knockback is around the same as Yoshi's. I think he can walljump and crawl now. It's safe to say Gray Fox is better than Meta Knight. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 12:13:27 PM Yeah, but MetaKnight's one of my nine core, I can't just get rid of him. sry. :-\
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 12:17:06 PM I remember Eternal Yoshi mentioning that the Clone Engine is now in process...
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 20, 2011, 12:19:08 PM Which is?
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 20, 2011, 01:54:36 PM I don't know the details but I believe you can port a custom character over "nobody."
Let's say you port Gray Fox over Meta Knight. Well, with the Clone Engine, you can use Gray Fox AND Meta Knight. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 20, 2011, 11:42:13 PM I LOVE Grey Fox!!! I have no qualms about not having Metaknight now! :happy:
Seriously this is too epic for words... :srs: Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 21, 2011, 05:55:45 AM interesting... I MUST DO RESEARCH on this!!!
This could greatly enhance SSBBL!!! Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 21, 2011, 01:47:00 PM Yeah, but the Clone Engine honestly needs a PAL version. >_>
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 21, 2011, 04:11:41 PM I like how once I post a video of Gray Fox slaughtering at least 10 soldiers in a hallway, it changes everyone's opinion about Gray Fox.
Bye bye MetaKnight. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 21, 2011, 04:12:50 PM PAL, don't know, don't care. I got that one that starts with an N so it doesn't bother me if we're PALS or not.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 21, 2011, 09:34:40 PM Well now that's not fair I've always been a huge Grey Fox fan! I just think all the original Brawl cast were well done, however the work that was put into Grey Fox rivals even that of the originals I'd say and in my case trumps haha! :happy:
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 23, 2011, 12:54:58 PM Gray Fox should have Stealth as one of his taunts. Much like the custom Snake Taunts that Eternal Yoshi made.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 23, 2011, 02:10:22 PM PAL, don't know, don't care. I got that one that starts with an N so it doesn't bother me if we're PALS or not. I should kick your face for being so ignorant. No seriously, thanks for being absent-minded about the rest of the world as if America is the only country that exists, god forbid we ask for some love hacking-wise. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Yasin1395 on June 23, 2011, 07:26:51 PM If anybody, why not port him over ike since, with the help of the clone engine, he can go over anybody after that? hell, why not port everybody over ike just so you have the freedom of porting everybody over anyone else? lol its a paradox
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Eternal Yoshi on June 24, 2011, 05:46:04 AM Haven't tried porting him over Ike, but won't the Down B malfunction and not if I do that?
The other specials are easy to port, but the down special would have to be changed. Also he would need Jab codes on account of Gray Fox and MK not having Jab1, Jab2, or Jab3. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 24, 2011, 11:16:37 AM I personally like him exactly the way he is! =3
Besides, Metaknight can port over some characters currently can't he? Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 24, 2011, 11:36:49 AM Down B for Ike is hardcoded just like Snake's neutral B move.
Not as hardcoded, but still very hardcoded. Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: DTST on June 24, 2011, 06:12:45 PM http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=10259
Unless this is already posted here Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 24, 2011, 07:25:22 PM Lol, that's not very good at all. It's just a wannabe Gray Fox mod. Eternal's is way better.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: TruePhilosopher on June 24, 2011, 08:25:36 PM That and there's no way I'd get rid of Sheik. :srs:
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 25, 2011, 01:02:43 PM *Zelda transports into Gray Fox"
WTF Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 27, 2011, 07:30:31 AM Really, if Grey Fox over Diddy was made, that I'd like very much!
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 27, 2011, 09:43:21 AM You should download Gray Fox over Mk just for now and see who you enjoy better.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: Triforce Zelda (Deceased) on June 27, 2011, 10:28:41 AM I enjoy MK better, but at the same time I like Grey Fox, so I just wanna port him over someone I don't care about! I tried over Luigi, and that failed miserably.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 27, 2011, 11:11:42 AM Do it over G&W, no one gives a [censored] about him anyway.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on June 27, 2011, 11:57:01 AM Do it over G&W, no one gives a [censored] about him anyway. I object with the BANHAMMER http://youtu.be/9CHMuXNtOSE?t=4s Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: LC-DDM on June 27, 2011, 04:55:18 PM Thanks for giving us all more reason to do Gray Fox over Metaknight.
Title: Re: I don't know what to do! Grey Fox vs. Metaknight! :O Post by: JOEYSX5 on June 27, 2011, 05:21:03 PM Gray Fox would kick Meta Knight's ass anyways....
Should I release this texture for Gray Fox? Gray Fox's Default texture: I like my texture because it gives Gray Fox a more "MGS" look. The textures were ripped from Twin Snakes. So my texture is identical to the way the Ninja looked in Twin Snakes. |