Title: Post-PSA Tournament Usage List/Discussion Post by: Lightning Edge on August 19, 2011, 11:32:22 PM Hey guys! dispite having only a few participents, The tournament turned out pretty well.
The tournament PSA pack is still downloadable over at the Online Gaming boards if ya want it. I had a tier list, but some of the higher ups felt that it wasn't time for a tier list. So i've decided to make a usage list as Eternal Yoshi suggested. The Usage List: Overused: Shadow, Dissidia Cloud, Zero Standerd: Mewtwo, SMBZ Mario, Aura Knight Borderline: Dark Samus, Viewtiful Joe, Spider-Man Underused: Athena, Wisp, Ridley, Jet Diddy, Snake, Dark Pikachu, Storm Fox, Raccoon Luigi, Sephiroth, Mega Man Neverused: Everyone else Explanations: Zero: Pros: Excellent mobility Great approaching options Combos are very easy to do Great mix-ups Almost impossible to keep off of the stage Zero Buster can be used as a combo starter Can ledgeguard with ease Cons: Light.....very light Down B kind of ruins Zero's mobility Very few killing moves Killing moves are slowish Tips: Use the Side-B to get around. Zero's normal run is pretty slow, and limits his combo potential. Oh yeah....one last thing. Don't get hit!!!!! Dark Samus: Pros: Pretty speedy Some disjointed hitboxes Down-B has a very powerful sweetspot hit Near impossible to approach Can set up combos extremely easily Powerful D-air Neutral-B is a great finisher Pretty heavy Surprisingly racks up damage pretty fast Cons: Next to no knockback moves Damage output is lacking Can't handle keepaway and zoning characters Recovery doesn't really save her Tips: Use Down-B and Down Smash to set up combos easily. Shadow: Pros: Really fast Very strong for a speed character Can handle any type of character Excellent recovery Chaos Spear is a powerful projectile Has a counter Tons of killing moves Doesn't have a lot of end lag in moves Cons: One of the lightest characters Has a slight problem with zoning characters Tips: Don't spam Down Smash. You're just asking for it. Mewtwo Pros: Can move around the stage very fast Teleport can be used to dodge and punish attacks Combos are easy to start Down-B sets up combos for grounded foes Every Smash has a lot killing potential Down-B allows you to charge Smashes at will Shadow Ball is a great projectile and combo finisher Great jumpintg height Way better than he was on the actual Melee game Flight is a welcome bonus Cons: Extremely light Has problems with zoning characters Tips: Use Teleports to dodge attacks instead of rolling away. Mewtwo's dodge is painfully slow. Viewtiful Joe Pros: Moves very fast in the air Has great priority with attacks in the air D-air causes bounce, which leads to combos Voomerangs come out fast and causes tumbling Up-B is an excellent combo finisher and killing move His height wrecks opponents's combos Extremely hard to hit Knockback moves galore Cons: Short reach Yet, another light character Grounded Neutral-B and Down-B are just asking to get punished No long reaching projectiles Tips: Stay in the air as much as possible. That's where Joe truely shines. Fighter Kirby Pros: Master of combos and mix-ups Racks up damage extremly fast Up-B has some invincibility frames, and has good knockback Side-B is the main combo starter Kirby finally has a better form of a projectile (Hold Neutral-B) Side-B can be used to approach the opponent safely Can stay in the air for a long period Pretty good knockback over-all Hard to land a hit on (if you use him right) Cons: just how many light characters are there? Hold Neutral-B takes a while to charge to full power Air Down-B can get you killed if you aren't careful Keepaway characters are a bane Tips: Side B is is good for approaching. Use it wisely. Drako Yoshi Pros: Pretty heavy Loads of killing moves Side-B is deadly to grounded foes Has one of the best Up-B moves in the game Has some invincibility frames in some attacks Cons: Slower than most Heaviness is combo bait Neutral B is slow and keeps Yoshi stunned for a bit Tips: Avoid getting comboed. Nuff said SMBZ Mario: Pros: Can switch playstles in the middle of battle Very speedy in Cape mode Cape mode is best for starting combos The bane of heavy and big characters Has a better projectile than normal Mario Excellent recovery (Up-B) in Cape mode Metal Mario Taunt is great in some cases Cons: Metal Mario Can mess you up in some situations D-Air can get you killed if not careful Air moves aren't very powerful Tips: Stay in Cape mode as much as possible. It's better for competitive play. More coming soon! Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Lightning Edge on August 19, 2011, 11:32:49 PM *Reserved*
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on August 20, 2011, 02:23:21 AM Hmm...don't you think it's rather early to be setting down a tier list when we've only had one day of the tourney?
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Eternal Yoshi on August 20, 2011, 06:05:32 AM And that I couldn't attend? XD
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Eternal Yoshi on August 20, 2011, 09:51:50 AM A suggestion - since there was only 1 tourney you should hold more of them before you make a tier list. In the meantime, you should probably not use tiers.
Instead, you should base the list on usage like so: Overused Standard Borderline Underused Never Used Until you get more results and hold more. Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Dot on August 20, 2011, 10:48:45 AM i over used shadow :srs:
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on August 20, 2011, 11:28:21 AM someone used my SMBZ Mario? :D
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Dot on August 20, 2011, 11:29:32 AM Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Tier List/Discussion Post by: Lightning Edge on August 20, 2011, 12:17:40 PM Well i've tested these against tons of other people online and offline.
But if that's how you guys feel, i'll just use the usage method. Let me alter it. One second. Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Usage List/Discussion Post by: Lightning Edge on August 20, 2011, 12:46:38 PM Updated.
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Usage List/Discussion Post by: Dot on August 20, 2011, 12:49:33 PM spiderman underused? i used him a lot with shadow
Title: Re: Post-PSA Tournament Usage List/Discussion Post by: Lightning Edge on August 20, 2011, 01:26:13 PM That was a mistake. It's fixed now. I used the crap out of Zero XD
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