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Title: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Aezthin on October 11, 2009, 10:25:01 AM I watched SMBZ 8 yesterday and Alvin-Earthworm introduced a new concept to everyone. What if Sonic grabbed a fire flower?
Watch in this animation if you wish to :D http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/513950 (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/513950) Neutral B: Same as usual but he's surrounded by flames and when he hits the ground there's a huge explosion Forward B: Shoots a HUGE fireball from his hand Down B: Holds hands out to both sides and shoots 10 fireballs in either direction Up B: Same except explosion at his feet instead of the spring (and hitboxes around his body) USmash: Switched with U-tilt (duh cuz it's sexii) FSmash: Flaming Kick of Doom (cuz the wave of elements is overused) DSmash: Double Sided Kick (cuz I LURVE it) Final Smash: He runs around in a circle around one char (this may change to the whole group) He then stops and makes a pose and the ground erupts beneath his victim (or victims) hoping to maybe figure out how to use Ho-oh's attack Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: cuckoos on October 11, 2009, 10:37:51 AM Another elemental moveset with nonsensical graphics? I might try this out when there is a release, but until then, this is just another elemental.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Aezthin on October 11, 2009, 10:39:57 AM Another elemental moveset with nonsensical graphics? I might try this out when there is a release, but until then, this is just another elemental. I'm trying to go with what Alvin-Earthworm's original animation gave me I assure you that it's NOT just another Elemental moveset. Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: cuckoos on October 11, 2009, 10:43:33 AM Wow, glad to hear that. Good luck to you then!
If what you said was true, this might be an epin PSA! Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 11:00:29 AM I knew someone was going to do this, I was going to do this myself, lol. I've seen the episode and Fire Sonic was genius. Can't wait. For his FS, I like the idea but how about you make him ingulf the whole stage if you can. But I also heard it was hard to remove the super sonic article from the fs without it freezing
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Gamez1985 on October 11, 2009, 11:21:19 AM When you guys say "PSA" what do you mean? I know a lot has been added to the Brawl Hack community, but all I really do is hack textures. I don't do much else (adding character effects, new pictures at character select, adding music.) If all these things were as streamlined as adding textures, I would do them. But everything has 1 or several extra annoying steps, so I never pay attention.
So what does PSA mean when you guys type it? I know it's not the usual Public Service Announcement. EDIT: Okay, I have gathered that PSA means Project Smash Attack. Which is kind of a stupid name because it's being used by everyone who makes a character with new effects/new moves. Isn't Project Smash Attack either like, a certain project being made by a specific group, or isn't it the name for a group? Anyway, unless your character was made or based on something by the people who started making PSA's I suggest we totally lose this term and make a new one. Unless of course someone can still enlighten me on the subject some more. Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Aezthin on October 11, 2009, 12:00:35 PM When you guys say "PSA" what do you mean? I know a lot has been added to the Brawl Hack community, but all I really do is hack textures. I don't do much else (adding character effects, new pictures at character select, adding music.) If all these things were as streamlined as adding textures, I would do them. But everything has 1 or several extra annoying steps, so I never pay attention. So what does PSA mean when you guys type it? I know it's not the usual Public Service Announcement. EDIT: Okay, I have gathered that PSA means Project Smash Attack. Which is kind of a stupid name because it's being used by everyone who makes a character with new effects/new moves. Isn't Project Smash Attack either like, a certain project being made by a specific group, or isn't it the name for a group? Anyway, unless your character was made or based on something by the people who started making PSA's I suggest we totally lose this term and make a new one. Unless of course someone can still enlighten me on the subject some more. Well we use the term PSA because that's the actual name of the program USED to create these characters (or at least I do) Project Smash Attacks is a program that allows you to open character files to edit movesets and such. It's called project because I'm assuming that Phantom was the SOLE producer of it. (correct me if I'm wrong) Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 01:14:27 PM No, you are right, Aezthin. Anyways, I would like to help you out with your project for I,also, was inspired by the overpowering might of Fire Sonic. I could give you ideas, be you tester or anything to be of some service to make this character great.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Aezthin on October 11, 2009, 02:51:08 PM No, you are right, Aezthin. Anyways, I would like to help you out with your project for I,also, was inspired by the overpowering might of Fire Sonic. I could give you ideas, be you tester or anything to be of some service to make this character great. One question. Are you good in PSA? We COULD make this a collab instead of it merely being my work solely. Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 04:59:11 PM Yeah, matter of fact, I already finished my sonic project, cursed sonic
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 11, 2009, 05:14:45 PM I just finished watching episode 8, and I've got a few suggestions:
Fair - Uses forward throw animation. He makes a mighty forward kick in the air which throws a large ball of fire which explodes in a second or when it hits someone. (Kinda like Phoenix Mario's Uair attack) Bair - Uses Bair animation. He kicks a small ball of fire behind him which only travels a few feet away from him, it explodes when it gets there or if someone intercepts it before it reaches its destination Side B - Uses forward smash animation. Charges up a punch and then releases, only with more fiyah Side B in the air - Uses Nair animation. He spins in place and a ring of fire expands out from him a few feet or an explosion happens (Which ever is easier to do) And make all of his normal A attacks faster, have less knockback and have more hitlag so they can be chained Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Aezthin on October 11, 2009, 05:34:53 PM I just finished watching episode 8, and I've got a few suggestions: Fair - Uses forward throw animation. He makes a mighty forward kick in the air which throws a large ball of fire which explodes in a second or when it hits someone. (Kinda like Phoenix Mario's Uair attack) Bair - Uses Bair animation. He kicks a small ball of fire behind him which only travels a few feet away from him, it explodes when it gets there or if someone intercepts it before it reaches its destination Side B - Uses forward smash animation. Charges up a punch and then releases, only with more fiyah Side B in the air - Uses Nair animation. He spins in place and a ring of fire expands out from him a few feet or an explosion happens (Which ever is easier to do) And make all of his normal A attacks faster, have less knockback and have more hitlag so they can be chained lol Thanyou's got some pretty BA ideas, I'd really prefer Fire Sonic to combo. Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 11, 2009, 05:40:28 PM I just finished watching episode 8, and I've got a few suggestions: Fair - Uses forward throw animation. He makes a mighty forward kick in the air which throws a large ball of fire which explodes in a second or when it hits someone. (Kinda like Phoenix Mario's Uair attack) Bair - Uses Bair animation. He kicks a small ball of fire behind him which only travels a few feet away from him, it explodes when it gets there or if someone intercepts it before it reaches its destination Side B - Uses forward smash animation. Charges up a punch and then releases, only with more fiyah Side B in the air - Uses Nair animation. He spins in place and a ring of fire expands out from him a few feet or an explosion happens (Which ever is easier to do) And make all of his normal A attacks faster, have less knockback and have more hitlag so they can be chained lol Thanyou's got some pretty BA ideas, I'd really prefer Fire Sonic to combo. I meant to say combo, but I thought chain would fit better, besides, isn't a chain still a combo >.> Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 06:08:41 PM I heard sonic's final smash can't be removed or changed, so how are going to make this work
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 11, 2009, 06:39:18 PM I heard sonic's final smash can't be removed or changed, so how are going to make this work You can't through PSA, but you can through Hexing I believe Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 07:32:36 PM That I don't know how to do, but I do know how to change animations and add graphics. Which leads me to my next question, how are you going to spread sonic's arms out for the multifireball attack?
As my knowledge goes, he doesn't have that animation but I do have two solutions. We can either have him shoot a barrage of fire balls all at once in one direction or if you wanted to do it multidirection, I say use his land heavy animation and add the fire orb graphics around him, then allow him to shoot out projectiles. I can do all of this but I will need some help with the projectiles, don't know how to create them Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 11, 2009, 07:54:25 PM That I don't know how to do, but I do know how to change animations and add graphics. Which leads me to my next question, how are you going to spread sonic's arms out for the multifireball attack? As my knowledge goes, he doesn't have that animation but I do have two solutions. We can either have him shoot a barrage of fire balls all at once in one direction or if you wanted to do it multidirection, I say use his land heavy animation and add the fire orb graphics around him, then allow him to shoot out projectiles. I can do all of this but I will need some help with the projectiles, don't know how to create them For the fireball(s) attacks I was thinking he was gonna do the side smash animation, only pause it at the very end when he has his punching hand back and the other hand open Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 11, 2009, 08:25:11 PM That is a good idea. How about this, the initial punch, he throws a big fire ball and when he pulls back his fist and switches to the open palm animation, freeze that point and let out the tinier versions.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: 1ce1223 on October 11, 2009, 08:27:06 PM Is it possible to make his standing animation include FIRE? :D :af:
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 11, 2009, 11:30:02 PM Yeah, and his running animation has fire tailing behind him only it does no damage because theat'd be too broken
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Angelglory on October 21, 2009, 11:20:35 AM For spreading Sonic's arms out, just use his grabbing animation and slow it down a little.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 21, 2009, 06:54:46 PM The server error must of deleted most of our comments.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Blue on October 21, 2009, 08:46:40 PM One request, don`t add unnecessairy graphics, we have alot of them, and they CAN be annoying. =/
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 22, 2009, 11:58:52 AM That is a good idea. How about this, the initial punch, he throws a big fire ball and when he pulls back his fist and switches to the open palm animation, freeze that point and let out the tinier versions. Is it possible to make his standing animation include FIRE? :D :af: One request, don`t add unnecessairy graphics, we have alot of them, and they CAN be annoying. =/ I second these with a burning passion Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Ayzer on October 22, 2009, 01:50:47 PM Ok everybody Since Kitty Corp was down i actually started working on this alone nd practically finished him but was unable to see some of the moves i didnt remember. so i add my own stuff in there. ive already spoke with Azethin and he still needs to test it but im w8ting for SonicBurstX To msg me and tell me if he started working on it and if he did he can send me the link
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: BassJX (JXXXG) on October 22, 2009, 04:04:22 PM I made a texture of this not to long ago......
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 22, 2009, 04:11:46 PM I made a texture of this not to long ago...... Lol, a TON of people have already made red recolors of sonic, I don't know why you made another >.> Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: BassJX (JXXXG) on October 22, 2009, 04:14:35 PM I made a texture of this not to long ago...... Lol, a TON of people have already made red recolors of sonic, I don't know why you made another >.> cuz i never knew that other people made them.... *facepalm* DAMMIT!! anyways i'm looking farward to this psa... Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 22, 2009, 06:55:54 PM Ok, I just pm'ed Ayzer my pac file. So all we have to do is see what he likes and dislikes about it and put it all together
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 25, 2009, 07:11:07 PM I want this like now PLEASE.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 25, 2009, 07:21:04 PM Patience is a virtue my friend.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 26, 2009, 06:25:43 PM i cant wait i just saw all the SMBZ episodes and there awsome
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 28, 2009, 02:55:33 PM Beta release any time soon?
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 28, 2009, 04:04:45 PM ya its been a while now
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 28, 2009, 05:10:49 PM I can understand its been a while I'm just asking if they have a beta yet? sorry if my question above sounded kinda sounded demanding.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 28, 2009, 05:17:01 PM oh not at all we just have to keep waiting
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 28, 2009, 05:17:59 PM >.>
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 28, 2009, 05:19:25 PM i know but patience is a virtue
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 28, 2009, 08:27:00 PM Unnecessary posts are unnecessary
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SnesS on October 28, 2009, 10:51:42 PM ^
ha! this is funny because you say that you no like unnecessary posts yet your post was unnecessary as well! (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o193/insanity540/BlueHarvest/blue16.png) but in all seriousness, when will we expect a beta? a full version? Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 09:44:26 AM LOL but yea I hope you guys can get at least a beta up soon.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 29, 2009, 01:50:54 PM ^ ha! this is funny because you say that you no like unnecessary posts yet your post was unnecessary as well! ([url]http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o193/insanity540/BlueHarvest/blue16.png[/url]) but in all seriousness, when will we expect a beta? a full version? That was the joke =D Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Ayzer on October 29, 2009, 01:59:41 PM haha. sorry everybody i will be done in a few hours or a few days, depending on how committed i am or how bored i am. but it will be up soon.
Most of the moves are done except im having trouble deciding what b down should do. and at the end of b down and b side ways, he like freezes in tha same position, but u can still move out of it and go back to normal. which is a very small bug. but its just annoying. and i dun really like the up tilt kick being his up smash so im most likely gonna chnage it to a firey uppercutt! but yeah ill make a new topic and post pictures later. im also going to make him spawn a fire flower in one of his taunts also going to change his entry. so yeah its going to be pretty sick. Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 02:53:57 PM well...damn it....hurry up please I've wanted to use this vs. the zero PSA but yea keep up the good work oh btw did you find a way to make his spikes like super sonic's because thats how his spikes are in the episode. anyways just wondering bout that. Hope to see the epicness very very soon.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Kirblord23 on October 29, 2009, 02:57:07 PM Chaos, I don't think you could edit the model through PSA, as i think that's the only way to get his spines to be up(model editing).
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 03:08:22 PM ahh oh well.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 29, 2009, 03:47:33 PM lol Sorry Ayzer is my sonic pac file is giving you trouble, if you need help just let me know.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Ayzer on October 29, 2009, 03:56:27 PM nah ur sonic Pack is gud i might use ur Smash Down for tha b down Move But Lighten it up... alot
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 29, 2009, 04:14:13 PM man im so excited i wonder if this will be better than super sonic
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on October 29, 2009, 05:30:43 PM lol, Yeah, it's called Chaos Blast. I guess I did overpowered it bit,lol. I told you that my sonic pac is a shocker and it is why it's my private project.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 06:23:11 PM How close I have to know please
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on October 29, 2009, 07:00:59 PM How close I have to know please my guess is in a couple more days Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 08:52:39 PM BTW if you check out my post I DID IT it shows that I finally got sonic to have his super spikes but not invincible not super fast NORR no final smash needed. And it makes it perfect.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: thanyou on October 29, 2009, 09:19:14 PM BTW if you check out my post I DID IT it shows that I finally got sonic to have his super spikes but not invincible not super fast NORR no final smash needed. And it makes it perfect. Damn, you beat me to it >.> Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on October 29, 2009, 09:24:05 PM BTW if you check out my post I DID IT it shows that I finally got sonic to have his super spikes but not invincible not super fast NORR no final smash needed. And it makes it perfect. Damn, you beat me to it >.> Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 04, 2009, 03:41:38 PM Due to the last post making me seem like a total [censored], I've removed it and decided to add something more friendly yet unnecessary. :3
Some guy at ESH made a Fire Sonic texture, but it was rather...bland and off, even for a recolor. The red was too pale, the eyes weren't gold, and the shoes were the wrong color. So out of boredom, I decided to make a better one and use the Super Sonic animation that Chaos managed to bring about in order to give more of a "Fire Sonic" feel. :3 (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic0binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic0binout.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic1binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic1binout.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic2binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic2binout.jpg) I had the make the shoes' textures completely white in order to make it look ev en close, but even after taking the pink overlay off the shoes, the shade is off. It'll be lighter or dark depending on the stage's lighting. Sometimes it may have a tint of another color, like so. :< (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic3binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic3binout.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic4binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic4binout.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic5binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic5binout.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_FireSonic6binout.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=FireSonic6binout.jpg) It's still pretty good though. You guys can decide if you wanna use it with the moveset or not, so I'll just put a link here until then. :3 If asked though, I'll gladly remove the link. When I think about it, even if I'm trying to help, this is almost the same as advertising or something XD; http://www.mediafire.com/?ydgjiwyneik Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Ayzer on November 04, 2009, 03:56:58 PM great ill be putting previews in later today
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on November 04, 2009, 04:43:13 PM Yay its so cool to see others post you work *Thumbs up*
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on November 04, 2009, 05:23:24 PM Give me a yell Ayzer if you need help. PM me if needed
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: golfingwill on November 04, 2009, 06:10:00 PM I csnt wait for this fire sonic moveset its gonna be epic!!
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on November 04, 2009, 06:58:32 PM Oh it will be epic whether it wants to or not.
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: OverlordLaharl on November 04, 2009, 06:59:25 PM Oh it will be epic whether it wants to or not. lol your going to force it to be epic Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on November 04, 2009, 07:05:26 PM Yes yes I am
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SonicBurstX on November 04, 2009, 07:33:04 PM some info will be placed either tonight or tomorrow guys, thx for your patience. We are trying to make this as great if not perfect as possible for you all. And great find on chaos for the floating of super sonic. Much apprieciated and will recieve credit in help of this project
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: chaos on November 04, 2009, 07:35:22 PM oh thank you. btw Kyzon figured out hot to get him to float run but its in a fitsonic.pac
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: Otaku14 on November 04, 2009, 07:37:04 PM Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: pingufetch5 on March 15, 2011, 03:14:07 PM This has epic win written all over it
Title: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 15, 2011, 03:15:39 PM This has epic win written all over it dont post in Old postesTitle: Re: Fire Sonic (SMBZ style) Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on March 15, 2011, 03:30:21 PM This has epic win written all over it Two necroposts in one day? Seriously? |