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Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking => General Hacking Discussion => Topic started by: Thanatos on October 05, 2011, 03:16:24 PM



Title: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Thanatos on October 05, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
Not completely sure where this should go, but I guess it is techncially a stage. It's basically an alteration to the King Dedede VS Bowser fight in the Subspace Emissary. The only change is that instead of fighting Bowser, you fight Giga Bowser. Now, this could go in one of two ways:

Option #1: Giga Bowser is fought in the style of Melee, an insanely powerful character who takes a lot of damage to beat. Obviously, Giga Bowser will be able to recieve knockback in this form, and if possible, his side-B (the Flying Slam) should be replaced with a non-grabbing Koopa Claw like in Melee (except with more damage given).

Option #2: Giga Bowser is fought like any other boss in Brawl, with an HP bar (Easy - 250, Normal - 300, Hard - 350, Very Hard - 400, Intense - 450). He will not take knockback in this form, and, like most bosses has a pattern in attacks.

First attack: Swipes twice with his claws, like Bowser's A attack (10% damage per hit)
Second attack: Fire Breath (lasts for 2 seconds; 5% damage per flame)
Third attack: Shadow Claw (depending on where the opponent is, he will use one of Bowser's tilts with a purple fiery effect (25% damage)
Fourth attack: Whirling Fortress (spins in his shell, and the attack will either do electric damage or freezing damage at random) (either attack does multiple hits. each hit does 5-7% damage, and can get up to 10 hits)
Fifth attack: Bowser Bomb (works like it normally does, but does 40% damage)

Also, in between each attack, Giga Bowser will spin around in his shell to the other side of the stage, sort of like a rolling dodge, it does no damage abut Giga Bowser is vulnerable to damage.


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Tempo_ on October 05, 2011, 07:46:59 PM
The main problem is that the Bowser you fight is just that: Bowser. If you happened to change the fight so you fight Giga Bowser, you're essentially fighting the Final Smash.

So if you wanted to fight a "knockbackable" Giga Bowser, you would need some sort of moveset for Giga Bowser (like Eldiran's "Killable Giga Bowser").


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Thanatos on October 05, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
so you can't change the level so there is no bowser? you can't simply add boss data then rework it to work like my suggestion above?


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Tempo_ on October 05, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
Mmm. You can remove Bowser... but I don't have much knowledge about the subject.
Someone else may be able to offer more help.


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: GabbaGhoul on October 06, 2011, 12:38:04 AM
so you can't change the level so there is no bowser? you can't simply add boss data then rework it to work like my suggestion above?
It doesn't seem possible, though if you get the killable Bowser and modify the moveset like Tempo said.
I really dont think you can add the stamina bar to a single character at a time. Maybe if there was some sort of hack that set the whole sse to stamina. Again that would still include the player right?


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Thanatos on October 06, 2011, 12:48:12 PM
No, not like Special Brawl stamina, like the SSE enemy HP. Each enemy and boss has a certain number of HP for each difficulty, but it's not visible to the player. For example, Tabuu has 500 HP on Normal difficulty, while a Primid has about 20.


Title: Re: Giga Bowser Boss Fight
Post by: Mareeo 64 on April 01, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
This sounds interesting!

I think if you wanted to replace a boss with Giga Bowser, such as Rayquaza, then ur idea might be possible. but as far as the fighting pattern, i'm not sure how you could modify it. I think you probably could replace a boss, but doing it in "Boss Battles" in the section with HRC, and target test would be the easiest place to start. Then, once you figure that out, you could find a way to use it in SSE.
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