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Title: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 05, 2009, 10:43:33 PM
Lazy me is lazy so I'm pasting this straight from Smashboards. XD

Does this deserve it's own topic? Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't mean I'm gonna stick it in a dead topic for no one to see though. ¦3 *SMACKED*

Recently over here KC:MM, Chaos and Kyzon finally found a way to have Sonic stand and run like Super Sonic. Spines up and everything. However the one problem was that since it used both a FitMotion and a FitChar.pac, you would have to manually add the correct data from the pac over to whatever moveset you wanted or it wouldn't work correctly. (AKA Sonic floats in place when running. XD) Completely out of boredom and free time, I decided to go ahead and do just that for what I have to say are the four best Sonic movesets made. Super Sonic(By DLoRd333) , CC Shadow (By Jose Gallardo), Mephiles (By Ayzer) and Dark Super Sonic (By Lexx and iChilla0). The original moveset pac by Chaos and Kyzon is there as well, as well as a Brawl+ 5.0RC1 version. Along with that, I got every "Super" related texture out there so far that best resembles the original and stuck em in there for your choosing pleasure.

In short, I bring you the crappily named Super Sonic Special Pack!

The Cast:

Super Sonic: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial0.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial0.jpg)

Super Shadow: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial1.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial1.jpg)

Nazo and Super Scourge: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial2.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial2.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial3.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial3.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial4.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial4.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial5.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial5.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial6.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial6.jpg)

Mephiles: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial8.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial8.jpg)

Darkspine Sonic (Why? Because it looks cool this way. XD) (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial7.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial7.jpg)

Perfect Nazo: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial9.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial9.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial10.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial10.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial11.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial11.jpg)

Fire Sonic: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial12.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial12.jpg)

Dark Super Sonic: (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial13.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial13.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial14.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial14.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial15.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial15.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial16.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial16.jpg)(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/th_SuperSonicSpecial17.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/?action=view¤t=SuperSonicSpecial17.jpg)

And of course these textures were made by their respective creators. I only made Fire Sonic. Enjoy. I can't believe how long it took me to finish this post. XD;

THE ONE SETBACK.

Except for the original and the Brawl+ version, all of these Superfied movesets will slide quite a bit. It's not enough to kill you 100% of the time unless you're just being completely silly or stupid, but it can catch you and even the computer off guard. I tried to stop it, but nothing worked. If anyone else can, be my guest. :3 Just goes to show you better know what you're doing when you mess with other people's stuff. XD

Edit: ...Forgot the download link >_> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?mtnozndumgm


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 05, 2009, 11:05:12 PM
wait, what else is there besides original and + ? lol


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 05, 2009, 11:06:02 PM
wait, what else is there besides original and + ? lol

... *facepalm*

Read...it's right there infront of you -_-;

Super Sonic (By DLoRd333) , CC Shadow (By Jose Gallardo), Mephiles (By Ayzer) and Dark Super Sonic (By Lexx and iChilla0)

Those 4 movesets with the flying animations in there. -_-;


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 05, 2009, 11:30:12 PM
heh.... hhehehehe i fail...
you know i read that twice and missed all of that...

well i think i'll take a nap and come back tomorrow with 100% less slip and slide


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 05, 2009, 11:39:59 PM
No biggie, sorry for getting a little mad. XD; It's just because of how many times I've had to look over that post.

And that's sweet! Can't wait to see the result. Whenever you do that, could you let me know how you got them to stop sliding around in case I want to add these animations to a moveset of my own? :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 06, 2009, 12:34:28 AM
ah no problem, i'm going to try and fix everything tomorrow


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: hughie on November 06, 2009, 05:00:20 AM
CC Shadow needs more special moves. Anyway, this is Kewl


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: SKLLedOne on November 06, 2009, 07:56:54 AM
What about Oizen's Neo Metal Sonic texture?  It looks awesome with the standing animation, and is a really cool texture anyway!


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 09:50:27 AM
Never seen or heard of it. Plus it's not really "Super" related anyway. But then again, neither is Mephiles. He's just in there cause he floats, looks like Shadow who was a ripoff of Super Sonic, and his moveset is there.

Link me to it and I'll add it in when I update it to the second version. :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: chaos on November 06, 2009, 01:08:05 PM
Geez so that what people do when they are bored nowa days


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 01:53:08 PM
I'm not sure if any of the PSA's you mentioned above is the same as this one, but I was just wondering if the Motion PAC works for this sonic:


http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?thlammmxozz


this is the sonic i'm currently using in my SD Card, along with the Super Scourge texture =]

it runs/falls VERY slowly lolz


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
@ Chaos

Welcome to the apparently 21 Century bub. XD

@Freezin

...Exactly what is the point of a Sonic moveset that's slow? O_o If it's supposed to be a Super Scourge moveset, you might wanna change that. Super Scourge is faster and stronger than Super Sonic is. His transformation also last a little longer. However, he gets extremely exhausted and immobilized once that transformation ends, which is the one downside. :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kam on November 06, 2009, 03:36:56 PM
I have only used the Mephlies part of the pack and I only have one complaint. He can't run in SSE without glitch warping back to the initial running part.


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: chaos on November 06, 2009, 03:42:49 PM
Damn you 21st century


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 03:49:15 PM
I have only used the Mephlies part of the pack and I only have one complaint. He can't run in SSE without glitch warping back to the initial running part.

Yeah I noticed. It's like that for Super Sonic, Super Shadow and DSS too. -.o Again, I'm not sure at all how to fix that, but I didn't think about anyone using these with SSE either. XD

Kyzon said he was going to edit them to fix the problems, so maybe that'll be fixed too for version 2. :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: hochin on November 06, 2009, 04:16:30 PM
Chaos and Kyzon finally found a way to have Sonic stand and run like Super Sonic. Spines up and everything. However the one problem was that since it used both a FitMotion and a FitChar.pac, you would have to manually add the correct data from the pac over to whatever moveset you wanted or it wouldn't work correctly. (AKA Sonic floats in place when running. XD)

Just out of curiosity, what method did you use to add the data manually? Nice job by the way, without a doubt this is pretty awesome.


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 04:52:08 PM
@Freezin

...Exactly what is the point of a Sonic moveset that's slow? O_o If it's supposed to be a Super Scourge moveset, you might wanna change that. Super Scourge is faster and stronger than Super Sonic is. His transformation also last a little longer. However, he gets extremely exhausted and immobilized once that transformation ends, which is the one downside. :3

I dont usually look for a "purpose" in PSA's, more like a difference. If it's interesting and looks/works nice, then i'd use it. The sonic i'm using adds something interesting when i play with my friends, that's just my opinion though =]

anywayz, i'm a bit confused now. i meant that the texture i usually use is super scourge, or at least that's what your post labeled it (the purple texture), which has nothing to do with the actual PSA i'm using. I actually have no idea which sonic PSA i'm using.

Just to make things more clear, so that i'm not confused anymore, the Motion PAC link IS for the super sonic animations only, right? Similar to the "Real Super Sonic" Motion PAC?

The only question I really had was if this Motion PAC works with any sonic PSA's, like the one i'm using right now. Unfortunately, I wont be able to test it out for quite some time. I remember I tried the Motion PAC that Chaos & Kyzon made, and the standing animation worked well, except it just stays at one spot when I try to run. (lolz you cant really call it "running" with the PSA i'm using though)


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 04:53:52 PM
Thanks! All I had to do was have the moveset I was editting and the original flying moveset open in PSA, change the attributes to match each other (You'll see them first thing at the top), and uncheck the "Moves Character" flag for the "Run" Sub-Action. I set other flags too, but they had no effect, so I've just been setting the one for Run only now. Just make sure you still have FitSonicMotionetc in your folder and you're all set. :3

@ Freezin

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding then.. I was thinking it was for that since you were using the outfit. My mistake :<

But yeah, the motion file is for the animations, but the pac still has to be a certain way to use it. Just do what I said in this post and you'll be all set. :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 05:02:17 PM
@ Freezin

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding then.. I was thinking it was for that since you were using the outfit. My mistake :<

But yeah, the motion file is for the animations, but the pac still has to be a certain way to use it. Just do what I said in this post and you'll be all set. :3

x.x none of that seems to make sense to me since I dont know how to edit PAC's, etc. but is it more simple to understand if the Motion PAC was only made to have that standing animation, or just to remove the running animation in the Motion PAC?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 05:17:38 PM
@ Freezin

Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding then.. I was thinking it was for that since you were using the outfit. My mistake :<

But yeah, the motion file is for the animations, but the pac still has to be a certain way to use it. Just do what I said in this post and you'll be all set. :3

x.x none of that seems to make sense to me since I dont know how to edit PAC's, etc. but is it more simple to understand if the Motion PAC was only made to have that standing animation, or just to remove the running animation in the Motion PAC?

...I have absolutely no idea what you're asking me, so just I'll just give your Sonic the animation stuff so it won't run in place x_x

But I'm saying that, as they already clearly said, you're supposed to use the motion.pac AND a specific FitChar.pac together so the standing and running both work. I'm just making it so other FitChar.pac files have those things needed

...Do you want me to just give your Sonic the flying stuff too? -_o;


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 05:24:19 PM
if it's time consuming stuff, then you really dont have to work on it. *wonders what the flying stuff is though*

Is it infinite flying? Or the jumps are made to make it look like it's flying?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Sylvo on November 06, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0njmtzltthe

since you're offering...moar flying plz? If it's not too much trouble  :happy:


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 05:28:53 PM
@ Freezin

Huh? He doesn't fly in the air man. He hovers above the ground like he does in the games. (Or how he USED to in the games anyway. o_o)

@ Sylvo

Aren't you the guy with the other Super Sonic? o.o I was gonna ask you if you wanted me to later anyways, so sure. Do you already have the FitSonicMotionEtc.pac? :3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Sylvo on November 06, 2009, 05:33:05 PM
I have the one Chaos and Kyzon made Made if thats fine =o. Yeah im the guy with the KC Super Sonic. I havent had much time to poke at it more but this hovering thing is a must.


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 05:33:40 PM
lolz i was about to edit my post saying that i finally understood what you meant, but you beat me to it =P

but yeah, i think keeping the original running animation would be the best, because i honestly have no idea if it might look weird with the flying animation, considering how slow it runs =x

EDIT: *hope i beat u to the reply this time lolz* unless, there's a way to remove the huge gust that appears behind sonic while he flies?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 05:44:04 PM
@ Freezin

Well if you say so, but let me know if you change your mind, okay? :3

@ Sylvo

After playing around with this guy...I really like him! o_o I think I'll try merging this guy and the other Super Sonic together to make a more complete Super Sonic. Do ya mind? :3

Oh, and here ya go buddy. ¦3

http://www.mediafire.com/?i4yn2z0io44


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: chaos on November 06, 2009, 05:44:52 PM
Hehe


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Sylvo on November 06, 2009, 05:47:28 PM
Thanks alot and thanks for the compliment. Sure go ahead and merge them if you like. It's a compliment to say my litle project could contribute to a "Complete" Super Sonic.

Thanks alot again =)


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 06, 2009, 05:49:11 PM

@ Freezin

Well if you say so, but let me know if you change your mind, okay? :3


sure thing, but i shouldnt even have any complaints at all, since you're doing all the work x.x


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 06, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
Thanks alot and thanks for the compliment. Sure go ahead and merge them if you like. It's a compliment to say my litle project could contribute to a "Complete" Super Sonic.

Thanks alot again =)

Heh, actually, from the looks of what I plan to do, it may be contributing to a complete Hyper Sonic. ¦3


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: pkujulo on November 06, 2009, 07:00:43 PM
I appreciate what you're doing, wave.  I also have problems with the motion pac and I'm not even using a psa.


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 06, 2009, 07:12:37 PM
you NEED the psa for it to work. they work together making him float


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Apocolypse3000 on November 06, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
is there a way you can add a download link of this emerl texture seen on kittycorp.

http://kc-mm.com/?p=1585


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 07, 2009, 06:59:46 PM
Sorry bud, but that Gemerl texture doesn't seem to be released yet. That or it's not from here. o_o


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: SnesS on November 08, 2009, 04:32:35 PM
WAVE!!!

could you make fire sonic compatible with the super sonic dash/run?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 08, 2009, 04:41:55 PM
WAVE!!!

could you make fire sonic compatible with the super sonic dash/run?

I'm already on it buddy XD


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: SnesS on November 08, 2009, 04:43:20 PM
WAVE!!!

could you make fire sonic compatible with the super sonic dash/run?

I'm already on it buddy XD
thanks man!
ur awesome!


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Otaku14 on November 08, 2009, 04:45:35 PM
U ROCK WAVE!!!!!


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 08, 2009, 04:55:43 PM
Uh oh...We've got a problem here. I got a freeze when I tried to change it for the flying stuff o_o;

I'll keep at it and see if I can get it to stop


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Otaku14 on November 08, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
I wish you the best of luck


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 09, 2009, 09:22:55 AM
still getting that freeze?
also i need that super shadow texture ;3
where'd you get it from?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: freezinboi280 on November 09, 2009, 02:36:38 PM
also i need that super shadow texture ;3
where'd you get it from?


The download link in this thread should have the Super Shadow texture included with it =]

but here's the thread: http://kittycorp.freecp.net/index.php?topic=1186.0



Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 09, 2009, 03:06:23 PM
... lol oh yea.. um forgot it was in the pac...  fail rofl


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Dotz on November 09, 2009, 04:34:31 PM
you should make a version from the new mecha sonic that just came out.


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: kyzon on November 09, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
dotz go to me and chaos' thread.
i made a universal version


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: FinalSoraRiku on November 09, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
What version of the CC Shadow did you edit?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Blue on November 10, 2009, 10:07:26 AM
What version of the CC Shadow did you edit?
I'm guessing the easy one to find, CC Shadow v3.0 on these forums?


Title: Re: The Super Sonic Special Pack (For lack of better naming)
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on November 10, 2009, 01:42:22 PM
3.0 of course. O_o

But I'll make sure to release a second version of this pack sometime, though I'm taking a break from Brawl stuff since it's keeping me from other stuff I wanna do XD