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Title: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 06, 2012, 05:01:48 AM
Hey remember that one game that almost everyone hated called Sonic 06?

Yes? Well do you remember how weird people say Sonic looked in the game?

You do? Well then... would you like to see that model in brawl?

...Well you're getting it anyway.

SONIC FROM 06

(http://puu.sh/z71z)(http://puu.sh/z72e)(http://puu.sh/z72D)(http://puu.sh/z72R)

This is what I've been working on for a few months now and even if it looks finished... it's not. I didn't show you ingame screenshots (I don't have any) and I still have some rigging left to do.

(http://puu.sh/z73d) Like that...

but I just thought I'd give you guys a bit of information on what is coming up. This isn't everything that I'm working on but it is my main project. I'm thinking of having it act the same way as Brawl Sonic so that means I will include everything.

List of what to do:

FS Eyes
Sphere update
Facial Expression

List of what I can do:

Get help with making custom PSA
Recolors
more Custom animations
custom voiceclips

I hope you find this project interesting considering that it's a real pain to make >.<

Anyway that's all! I'll be uploading update pictures when I have something new to show!  :af2:

PS: If this happens to be in the wrong thread then the admins are welcome to move it to the right one.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 06, 2012, 06:41:09 AM
Oh you mean that game that everyone argues with me because I like it. And yeah Sonic's model is weird in that game same with eggman. Btw the spikes in the third pic doesn't look right to me.

Btw I could make the recolours for you.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 06, 2012, 09:31:55 AM
Oh you mean that game that everyone argues with me because I like it. And yeah Sonic's model is weird in that game same with eggman. Btw the spikes in the third pic doesn't look right to me.

Btw I could make the recolours for you.

Well I haven't played the game but I will cause I don't want to instantly say that it sucks without my own opinion on it. Also the reason the spikes look weird in that part is because I pretty much took a picture of the up throw and that frame is only there for a split second.

As for recolors you can do your own versions once the hack is released. Personally I'm going to release it with my own ones. But I appreciate your offer and I'm letting you make your own recolors when the hack is released :)


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 06, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
All right :)

Also I recommend you borrow Sonic 06 from someone when you gonna play it. Btw that pose in the first pic is really good.


Title: UPDATE
Post by: Mattimation on June 06, 2012, 10:05:03 AM
All right :)

Also I recommend you borrow Sonic 06 from someone when you gonna play it. Btw that pose in the first pic is really good.


The problem with borrowing it is that pretty much every Xbox 360 copy is the holy graal now. Also thank you. It took me a while to make the pose accurate (unlike that other one that is on the Brawl Vault which doesn't look correct at all)

UPDATE:

(http://puu.sh/A489)
(http://puu.sh/A49e)

Mouth Expressions finished! Now all left to do is the Eyebrows, eyelids and FS eyes!  :af2:

UPDATE 2:

(http://puu.sh/AacM)

Eyebrows done! Keep an eye out for the Eyelids and FS eyes!

UPDATE 2:

(http://puu.sh/AdHk)

Sonic: Thank you Elise...

No the Final Smash will not be switched to Elise kissing him...

The FS eyes now has a texture and the rig is pretty much ready to be updated. Only thing I have to do is get all the faces and mouths matched up properly with the rig. THAT'S annoying part #1


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 11, 2012, 06:20:48 PM
Well I haven't played the game but I will cause I don't want to instantly say that it sucks without my own opinion on it. Also the reason the spikes look weird in that part is because I pretty much took a picture of the up throw and that frame is only there for a split second.

As for recolors you can do your own versions once the hack is released. Personally I'm going to release it with my own ones. But I appreciate your offer and I'm letting you make your own recolors when the hack is released :)

Sonic 06 was a disaster!!! I was a sonic fan until that game came out. The best thing about it would undoubtedly be, the soundtrack. Silver and Shadow have crap gameplay and the controls are god awful. Turning is stiff on speed sections and mega loose otherwise, which oddly hurts the game. Trust me, I beat it and did the true ending and everything...


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Leon Exodio on June 11, 2012, 06:52:26 PM
yeah the sound track was  the best  part  of that game  also nice model


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SwingSet on June 11, 2012, 07:20:22 PM
I have to say, It a freaking awesome model. I've been waiting years for someone to import this model. Thank you. Now my life is Complete.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 11, 2012, 11:04:11 PM
Sonic 06 was a disaster!!! I was a sonic fan until that game came out. The best thing about it would undoubtedly be, the soundtrack. Silver and Shadow have crap gameplay and the controls are god awful. Turning is stiff on speed sections and mega loose otherwise, which oddly hurts the game. Trust me, I beat it and did the true ending and everything...

What about Sonic Labyrinth and 3D Blast?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on June 11, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
sonic 06 needs animted eyes


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 12:04:33 AM
sonic 06 needs animted eyes

Full Hack = A fully rigged model with everything included to it, a PSA to go with the hack as a bonus, Custom recolors to go with the other costumes, New animations to fit 06 Sonic and the PSA, and new voice clips

So yeah the eyes will be animated.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on June 12, 2012, 12:06:05 AM
Full Hack = A fully rigged model with everything included to it, a PSA to go with the hack as a bonus, Custom recolors to go with the other costumes, New animations to fit 06 Sonic and the PSA, and new voice clips

So yeah the eyes will be animated.
good also i hope he will get a new wait1 cuz non PSAs based on Sonic have got one they still have brawl one(classic sonic wait animation)(until SMBZ Sonic v2 is done)


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 12:14:42 AM
good also i hope he will get a new wait1 cuz non PSAs based on Sonic have got one they still have brawl one(classic sonic wait animation)(until SMBZ Sonic v2 is done)

I'm making as many animations as I can look like they're from Sonic 06.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on June 12, 2012, 04:03:04 AM
What about Sonic Labyrinth and 3D Blast?

06 is worse than both.  Anyway model's not too bad but it really needs a new texture.  Current one is fugly.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 08:29:43 AM
06 is worse than both.  Anyway model's not too bad but it really needs a new texture.  Current one is fugly.

1: It's cool how my Brawl Hack Idol just commented on my Topic.
2: If you think those 2 games aren't as bad as 06 then I kinda want to know your opinion but at the same time this topic isn't about opinions
3: The textures I got with the model didn't look a THING like 06 Sonic which these do. If you have problem with the textures then you are free to edit them when the full hack is released.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 12, 2012, 09:03:49 AM
06 is worse than both.  Anyway model's not too bad but it really needs a new texture.  Current one is fugly.

Agreed. (about 06 being worse.) The only game i could consider worse than 06 is Sonic and the Black Knight which I was certain to never play.

Also, Sdoom you are one of my brawl hacking idols too, though I neglected to mention it when you commented on my other post.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 12, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
No offense but what's so good about Sdoom? I guess I should check out his hacks..I mean look at them. What was so bad about sonic 06? And the black night? And what will the 06 moveset look like?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 12, 2012, 12:22:29 PM
have you used Sdoom's Viewtiful Joe? Its PERFECT. Just needs voices. And I think he also made Shadow over dk which I use. Just wish he had faster run start up. Might be his Cloud that I use as well. He is a BOSS. When I say i wanna psa, he is what Im trying to achieve.

And what WASNT bad about 06? but lets not use this thread for a debate. Just message me.

Sorry Blase.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 12:23:48 PM
No offense but what's so good about Sdoom? I guess I should check out his hacks..I mean look at them. What was so bad about sonic 06? And the black night? And what will the 06 moveset look like?

I'm still thinking about it but so far I can say that all the Gems, Bounce Bracelet and Anti Gravity thingy will be in the move.

have you used Sdoom's Viewtiful Joe? Its PERFECT. Just needs voices. And I think he also made Shadow over dk which I use. Just wish he had faster run start up. Might be his Cloud that I use as well. He is a BOSS. When I say i wanna psa, he is what Im trying to achieve.

And what WASNT bad about 06? but lets not use this thread for a debate. Just message me.

Sorry Blase.

I don't have to message you cause I haven't said anything about 06 yet besides that almost everyone hates it. I have to find one of the hidden PAL Xbox 360 copies before I can play it.

Also I don't have any progress pictures are the moment but I can say that I've added all the faces, Eyelids, Mouths and FS eyes. Only thing to do is to fix 1 face so it's centered perfectly and make the FS eyes visible. When that's done I will rig the hands and finally Super Sonic. Then you can except a limited edition of Alpha 2 coming out!


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 12, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
I'm still thinking about it but so far I can say that all the Gems, Bounce Bracelet and Anti Gravity thingy will be in the move.

Speed gem
Shrink gem
tornado gem
warp gem
slow time gem
magnet gem i think?
err.. dont remember the other gem. was it double jump? What were they?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 12, 2012, 12:35:12 PM
Why does sonic need a bunch of pretty rocks and bracelets for his abilities? Really, a bounce gem? Can't he do that [censored] on his own? Lol that's what's wrong with the game. I like sonic's light dash, will that be in?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 12:37:06 PM
Speed gem
Shrink gem
tornado gem
warp gem
slow time gem
magnet gem i think?
err.. dont remember the other gem. was it double jump? What were they?

Blue = Speed
Purple = Shrink + Infinite Jump
Green = Tornado
Sky = Fly like a mother ****er
Red = Stop time
White = Homing Attack V.2
Yellow = Electrical Shield

I think that's all of them (been watching Supergamingbros alot)


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 12, 2012, 01:54:32 PM
Ah. well good luck. If you need help with ideas i can think of somethin


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on June 12, 2012, 02:52:41 PM
No offense but what's so good about Sdoom? I guess I should check out his hacks..I mean look at them. What was so bad about sonic 06? And the black night? And what will the 06 moveset look like?

I could write a big essay on why I'm totally awesome and why 06 is a really terrible game but I feel it would be irrelevant and off topic so instead I shall wish you luck with this project Blase.  If 06 had anything decent (save for the kickass soundtrack) it had some decent ideas. 


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 12, 2012, 03:43:43 PM
Why do you want to make a character off of a game that you hate so much?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 03:52:14 PM
Why do you want to make a character off of a game that you hate so much?

I NEVER said I hated Sonic 06. I don't have an opinion on it yet and I said that almost everyone hates it. That doesn't include me. I actually like the graphics even. That part in the beginning was more of a little joke.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 12, 2012, 05:16:31 PM
How do you make the moveset on a game you haven't played before?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SwingSet on June 12, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
Well to me. Sonic 06 was a great game if it weren't for the long ass loading, lag, silver's lack of speed, glitches, ect. But this game let you explore almost the whole 3D of the stages. And great job again at rigging the model. I like how you replace the sphere of him jumping with the new flips he does. And I can't wait ti'll you release the complete hack ;D


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 12, 2012, 05:56:43 PM
Well to me. Sonic 06 was a great game if it weren't for the long ass loading, lag, silver's lack of speed, glitches, ect. But this game let you explore almost the whole 3D of the stages. And great job again at rigging the model. I like how you replace the sphere of him jumping with the new flips he does. And I can't wait ti'll you release the complete hack ;D

You're crazy.

Sonic 06 was garbage and is best left forgotten.

Talks to npc... loading
Npc tells you something for quest... loading
start quest... loading

each load is about 16 seconds. effectively doubling the length of the game.

Good graphics. Good music.

Bad voices. Bad concept. Silver was garbage. "It's no use!!! Taaake this!"
Shado felt like Shadow the Hedgehog done wrong. He was stupid slow, when he is supposedly sonic's speed. Had poor stage design... not to mention the difficulty. Kingdom Valley was dumb hard. everything of silver felt broken and shadow felt impossible. And this is comin from someone who had 100% on all 4 stories...


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on June 12, 2012, 06:06:21 PM
How do you make the moveset on a game you haven't played before?

Very easily.  YouTube is awesome.  Videos and research on the subject amount to more than enough.  I've never played a Final Fantasy game in my life yet I did a Cloud moveset.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Oizen on June 12, 2012, 07:05:05 PM

:|

I did a quick rig of this model ages ago, it looks so similar from a distance I never bothered to finish it.

Well anyway, good luck.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: IWasAPerson on June 12, 2012, 08:31:10 PM
Very easily.  YouTube is awesome.  Videos and research on the subject amount to more than enough.  I've never played a Final Fantasy game in my life yet I did a Cloud moveset.


Not to derail this thread further, but I just come off of beating '06. I hate the game if you take it at face-value (aside from having some awesome ideas gone horribly wrong, a kickass soundtrack, and Dan Green) but it's incredibly fun to see how badly you can break the game. That said, this is probably one of the best Let's Play's/commentaries to look at.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-SMZUyj-s# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf-SMZUyj-s#)

I have enough to say about it that I could easily do my own Let's Play if you need to know anything about it. Strangely enough though, I found Shadow the most fun to play and least broken of the 3 characters. Incidentally, if you're going to be making a moveset around the gems, they'd better be as broken and infinite as they are in '06. Especially the Red Gem, Sky Gem, and Purple Gem.

On a more serious note though, the model looks as good as it can be considering it's the '06 model. For what it's worth, the texture work in Sonic '06 is terrible when you take away the "next-gen shininess" lighting, so don't worry too much about the texture seeming different. All I can say is, good luck animating Sonic's noodle arms and legs. I'd make a quip about Sonic Team not being able to do it right but they were just really lazy and I'd be willing to bet you can do better.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 12, 2012, 11:47:55 PM
Ok I'm just going to do a Q&A right now so I don't have to answer these question in the future.

Q: Why are you making a full hack of a game you never played?
A: 1: I DID play it a bit when my brother had it but due to me not liking to look around I was good on the Silver stages but sucked on Sonic's first stage. 2: I want to do something original that no one has done before.

Q: How do you know all the powerups if you haven't played the game?
A: Youtube.

Q: What's your opinion on Sonic 06?
A: Need to play more of it.

Q: Why don't you just buy a copy?
A: Swedish PAL Xbox 360 Sonic 06 copies = Hidden somewhere with the Lost Ark.

Q: Why don't you just buy the PS3 version?
A: Don't have a PS3 and I want achievements.

Q: Can I make recolors?
A: When it's released yes.

Q: How's the hack coming along?
A: Pretty good. Almost done with the emotions.

Q: Why do you need an Elise model? (refering to another topic I made)
A: I want to make Win2 into the Winning animation he does when he's holding Elise.

Q: Do you have someone to make PSA?
A: My friend K-Canon and I made a deal and he's making them while I learn.

Q: How did the textures look like from the start?
A: The model is on Models-resource.com

Q: Why is Super Sonic very Yellow?
A: I'm going to make him light goldish cause he's based off the CGI cutscene model.

Q: Why do you say Labyrinth and 3D Blast is worse than 06 if you haven't played it?
A: From what I see in Let's Plays I find 06 not that bad looking. Labyrinth is a failure on the first 5 seconds of gameplay cause you're too slow and the idea sucks and 3D Blast... I must admit I played a hack with no flickies needed but even that hack was HORRIBLE and didn't make the game better at all cause I was STILL jumping on enemies and passing by Flickies. Also Sonic is slow in this game as well.

Q: Will this have custom animations?
A: Indeed it will.

Q: Want help with the animations?
A: I was thinking of doing them all myself but if I need help I'll probably ask for it.

Q: What project will you do after 06 Sonic?
A: one of the Planned ones in my Signature. The WIP ones are being worked on at the same time.

Q: What is the current moveset idea?
A: Glad you asked Q.


My idea for the 06 PSA:

dash A: Antigravity Kick

down A: Sweep kick (which I think he already has)

Forward air A: Homing Attack

Down air A: Bounce attack

Netrual B: Green Gem (Does the spiral kick and a green tornado appears around him which knocks opponents upwards)

Air B: White Gem (pretty much the normal Brawl Sonic move except you choose where Sonic should aim)

Side B: Sky Gem (throws the projectile forward and them dash towards it. Go over a ledge and you must get back up)

Air Side B: Sky Gem (this time he throws it diagonal down)

Down B: Spindash

Air Down B: Yellow Gem (a Block move and if anyone touches him they get electricuted)

Up B: Purple Gem (Goes tiny and jumps up high. Pretty much nothing to change here besides the spring)

Up air B: Purple Gem (same here)



Be sure to check back for more info sometime soon!

There. If I get any message close to these questions I will ignore them since I've already answered.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 13, 2012, 08:56:45 AM
You realize Sonic 06 is one of the hardest games to get achievements in ever. It is rated a 9 /10 on trueachievements in difficulty.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 13, 2012, 09:30:46 AM
I think that Shadow story is the most finished story since Sonic is just screwed over and Silver well he is overpowered in 06.

Btw Sonic R is the worst Sonic game and black knight is way better then 06.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 13, 2012, 10:01:38 AM
Yeah me too I liked it.

I'm surprised that nobody did a Shadow psa based of his moves in 06.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kienamaru on June 13, 2012, 10:06:41 AM
Yeah me too I liked it.

I'm surprised that nobody did a Shadow psa based of his moves in 06.

Are we gonna have problems bro? You liked Sonic 06? .takes out hammer of judgement. But I do think an 06 Shadow would be good. I beat the game on numerous occasions and had somewhere near 600 gamerscore... not good. I also hated Sonic R. And man wow... I thought Knight of the Wind alone was enough to make Black Knight the worst sonic game.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 13, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
Are we gonna have problems bro? You liked Sonic 06? .takes out hammer of judgement. But I do think an 06 Shadow would be good. I beat the game on numerous occasions and had somewhere near 600 gamerscore... not good. I also hated Sonic R. And man wow... I thought Knight of the Wind alone was enough to make Black Knight the worst sonic game.

Knight of the wind is a very good song. Yeah and shadow could have like his chaos blast form (when he turns red) as his FS. Kinda like wario man.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 13, 2012, 03:01:11 PM
Sonic R was fun...but it wasn't the best. There should be more on-foot sonic racing ames.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 13, 2012, 11:03:19 PM
*bangs head in desk*Can we PLEASE stop discussing which games are bad on this thread?!

I'm sorry but I just want this to focus on 06 Sonic alone!

Here's my opinion on the other games. When I've said them we'll STOP discussing it!

Sonic R: A nice racing game and actually a race game I could come back to when I have nothing to do.

Sonic and the Black Knight: Thought it was great but I'm alone by that in my family. With Me is by far my favorite theme in the game and the final boss was AWESOME!

Sonic 3D Blast. Hate this game hate this game hate this game hate this game.

Sonic Labyrinth: ...Give me my speed shoes back...


As for 06 Shadow PSA... Find someone else.

and as for Tails Doll... *goes to release it quickly*


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Segtendo on June 13, 2012, 11:16:36 PM
Man. So much derailing and off-topicness.

Anyway, have fun with this project.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 14, 2012, 04:57:55 AM
Hey man, I just uploaded the result screen bmusic from 06 for over Sonic's victory theme; It might be helpfull for your project 06. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26922&Vault=audio (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26922&Vault=audio)


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 14, 2012, 07:14:50 AM
Hey man, I just uploaded the result screen bmusic from 06 for over Sonic's victory theme; It might be helpfull for your project 06. [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26922&Vault=audio[/url] ([url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26922&Vault=audio[/url])


It sounds good but I think the 06 Victory theme would fit better.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 14, 2012, 07:18:58 AM
It sounds good but I think the 06 Victory theme would fit better.

When I went trough the ost on youtube I didn't saw I take a look for it.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 14, 2012, 07:51:58 AM
The final smash is the same as normal sonic???


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 14, 2012, 02:17:26 PM
The final smash is the same as normal sonic???

It's the same but with some animation edits.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 14, 2012, 03:30:33 PM
Like what? Sonic flying backwards? Oh that's so cool.

No but really, can you be more specific? There's no chance to it?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 14, 2012, 09:20:09 PM
I know he wasn't going to do that. I want to know how cool it will look and that will be more interesting if he describes it better. No new features like being able to throw rings? Well not really :p


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 14, 2012, 10:43:02 PM
Just a new transformation animation and a new stance. I guess new Transform back as well.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 15, 2012, 09:01:53 AM
The transformation is him getting a kiss, right? I wish I could make a transformation for my character as well. I guess I'll do that for my new hack (when I'm finished working on my current one). Do you think having so many new B moves will make this sonic different from the normal one? And how will th spindash change, will it have more of an impact (multihit?) Or what?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
The transformation is him getting a kiss, right? I wish I could make a transformation for my character as well. I guess I'll do that for my new hack (when I'm finished working on my current one). Do you think having so many new B moves will make this sonic different from the normal one? And how will th spindash change, will it have more of an impact (multihit?) Or what?


 ...uh... Why would Elise randomly appear and kiss him? Also the B moves will be diffirent and I'm thinking of having the Spindash less Sonic CDish.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 15, 2012, 12:12:57 PM
A lot of movesets are stupid like that where things appear out of nowhere. Ie 'billy buts a bomb behing him and it explodes, hurting the foe' where did the bomb come from? Yeah. But anyways are you making a stage after this?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
A lot of movesets are stupid like that where things appear out of nowhere. Ie 'billy buts a bomb behing him and it explodes, hurting the foe' where did the bomb come from? Yeah. But anyways are you making a stage after this?

I'm releasing Hidden Palace from Sonic 2 Beta once it's tested and works and after 06 Sonic I'm going to finish off my other hacks before I aim towards The Great Mighty Poo Stage and Gamma.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on June 15, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
It sounds good but I think the 06 Victory theme would fit better.

Listen to the 06 victory theme.

Now listen to the Brawl one.

EXACTLY the same.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 15, 2012, 12:56:12 PM
Could you give a link for the victory theme of 06 I can't find it and too lazy to load 06.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 15, 2012, 01:04:25 PM
Mannn that's a lot...:(
Do you need some kind of help?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 01:37:54 PM
Listen to the 06 victory theme.

Now listen to the Brawl one.

EXACTLY the same.

*insert Lex Luthor "WROOOONG!!!" here*

The Brawl Victory song for Sonic is mostly composed with trumpets while the 06 victory song is composed with violins and other string instruments I guess.

Oh and as for you Element I think the other hacks after 06 Sonic will be easier till I hit Gamma and the Stage. I just have to fix Venice and Vectorman V.2 will be easy to make.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Segtendo on June 15, 2012, 01:44:46 PM
Wait. Wave. They are different.
Sonic the Hedgehog 2006- Mission Clear and Result (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4iYFVZwZoI#)
SSBB - Z47 - Sonic's Victory (SONIC the Hedgehog Stage Clear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlFktk0ZQDs#)


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 02:03:24 PM
...huh... that's the last time I'm going with thinking that the song Shock44 has for his victory was the real one. I should also get back to playing Brawl some more maybe.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 15, 2012, 02:06:40 PM
Well will you be done by july? July us when i'de like to have the model done. I want to finish two projects by the end of summer at the least. But I won't be selfish about it. Thanks for even offering to help. Mnph! Auughh!

What kind of gamma hack are you making? A model, with a psa?

So u dnt need help..


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: DashSmash on June 15, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
So mission clear is the stage clear.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 02:15:14 PM
Well will you be done by july? July us when i'de like to have the model done. I want to finish two projects by the end of summer at the least. But I won't be selfish about it. Thanks for even offering to help. Mnph! Auughh!

What kind of gamma hack are you making? A model, with a psa?

So u dnt need help..

Sorry but I don't think that 06 Sonic will be finished by July. The model might be but the PSA won't be. Gamma is over Samus but needs some custom Animation due to him being bigger and longer than her.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Segtendo on June 15, 2012, 03:54:58 PM
So mission clear is the stage clear.
I guess so.
I never played 2006. I was just searching quickly for a video with its music.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 15, 2012, 06:49:38 PM
I guess so.
I never played 2006. I was just searching quickly for a video with its music.

Actually that was the stage clear music. Mission Clear has another theme. I know this from Let's Plays.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 15, 2012, 09:41:22 PM
Is gamma going to have a psa or just model...?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 16, 2012, 04:31:40 AM
Is gamma going to have a psa or just model...?

Just a model but ALOT of animation changes cause of him being a diffirent shape than Samus. He'll also be using Link's bones cause he needs 2 arms.

UPDATE: Alpha 2 is almost ready for release. But with some nice progress... comes some scrapped stuff. I have to remove ALL the faces (not mouths) on 06 Sonic besides basic one and I need to remove 1 eyelid or parts of it due to the model having too many faces. The limit is 11000 and it goes over that limit. So as much as I'd love to add the faces I'm afraid they'll be deleted. Super Sonic will look more angry though but that's about it. I'm TRULY sorry for this but there's nothing I can do to prevent it.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Leon Exodio on June 16, 2012, 11:44:01 AM
i have a gamma model on samus was thinking about doing a psa for it idk


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 16, 2012, 12:11:01 PM
Gamma was a little OP in sonic battle with his more than half health destroying combo attack, super healing (1st or 2nd fastest other than hyper emerl's ultimate heal) and exploding when dying. Like his B combo and chase attack could KO people. Is the moveset going to have moves animated to look like his? Or will it be from the boring segments from sonic adventure 1 and 2? Or another game?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Leon Exodio on June 16, 2012, 12:22:53 PM
idk it will have some from everything but i got to start on my chaos 0 move set first before i can do any thing


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 16, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
Make him have a heal move...

He shoots has bombs explodes and has electric hands.h his recovery should be the jets on his back and he curls up a little


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 16, 2012, 02:02:10 PM
May I just remind people that the topic is 06 Sonic? I mean I know that I pretty much started the subject on Gamma but I tried to get back on 06 Sonic and how he may be emotionless.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 16, 2012, 03:57:56 PM
It's okay, emotions aren't that great anyways. Who cares if the character isn't life-like. Do your best and we'll appreciate whatever becomes of that.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Leon Exodio on June 16, 2012, 04:09:44 PM
yeah sorry about that lol


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 17, 2012, 11:09:40 AM
I got some update news on 06 Sonic again and... well all those mouths and faces you saw me upload... None of them are part of the hack anymore. It's looks the same like Alpha 1 did but with some better rigging. Though the eyelids and FS eyes are still on the model and if I'm lucky even the sphere body might get to stay. The reason for all the changes is because the model had a massive ammount of polygons that made Brawl Freeze when using the hack so now it has been reduced to less. But yeah that's pretty much the update. if the model doesn't freeze ingame anymore I'll get working on Super Sonic and release it.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 17, 2012, 11:15:28 AM
Great, so now you're going to throw all of the stuff out? Is there any stuff that you saved just in case?


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 17, 2012, 12:01:35 PM
Great, so now you're going to throw all of the stuff out? Is there any stuff that you saved just in case?

Well I have all the faces saved but I don't think there is any way for me to have them be on the model besides lowering the models ALOT and that's not an option in my eyes. So sorry you will get a emotionless 06 Sonic (besides eyelids) just like Sonic 06. However once Alpha 2 is released the real stuff begins where I have to make all animations and K-Canon needs to make the PSA and Win2 is getting changed into the Elise Rescued Victory Pose (the winning animation he does whenever he takes Elise through a level) and to do that I need the actual Elise model. Otherwise I can't make that animation and I really want to. If anyone has the Elise model (actual one) then I would appreciate if you could send it to me. You will be collabed for doing it.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kenji23Z on June 17, 2012, 06:40:15 PM
About the animations there's this guy on YouTube who got all the TGS sonic 06 animations
Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 TGS 2005 Beta Animations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtXqxgXtHmI#ws)
you could probably use them as an example of some sorts


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 18, 2012, 03:25:02 AM
I kinda want the actual animations from the game if I'm going to rip them from the game. Otherwise he did a good job at replacing those

In other news... 06 Sonic Version 0.5 is getting close for it's release! Once Super Sonic has been created and all the recolors are ready and everything tested and gotten screenshots the model will be released! After that I'm going to get working on animations and PSA which is going to be the hardest part most of the times. I would give you a preview but I don't think you want to have a Brawlbox preview.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Kenji23Z on June 18, 2012, 12:09:45 PM
ok, i was just throwing that idea out there since most people i show that video to like the TGS animations better


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 20, 2012, 05:41:32 AM
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27055 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=27055)

VERSION 0.5 IS UP!


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 20, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
That isn't the final version, is it? I haven't checked it out yet, just wondering.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Segtendo on June 20, 2012, 09:24:59 PM
Of course not. It would say "final" or something on the hack.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 21, 2012, 04:05:29 AM
Of course not. It would say "final" or something on the hack.

Right you are cause I still have stuff to make for the hack.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SonicBrawler on June 21, 2012, 04:59:44 AM
I ahvent read every single post, but, do you have FS eyes and metal done? i fn ot, youcan send me the .max and textures of 06 sonic and i can add them in for you


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 21, 2012, 05:26:44 PM
I ahvent read every single post, but, do you have FS eyes and metal done? i fn ot, youcan send me the .max and textures of 06 sonic and i can add them in for you

Already made it. Version 0.5 has them.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: SonicBrawler on June 21, 2012, 06:27:06 PM
oh ok


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 21, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
Is there anything I can do to help? Perhaps something tedious that you don't like to do?

And above-lame post lol :p


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Mattimation on June 21, 2012, 07:10:50 PM
Is there anything I can do to help? Perhaps something tedious that you don't like to do?

And above-lame post lol :p

I need a guy that can make new voice clips from Sonic 06 for the hack. That's all. I already have a PSA guy and I'm making new textures for the next and final version.


Title: Re: Project: 06 Sonic
Post by: Element on June 22, 2012, 09:12:48 AM
You have a lot of hack skills! Too bad you're a sonic fan and you waste them on that hedgehog junk. Hahaha just kidding sonic's cool with me. I can't do anything with audio, i'de need internet for that and I can't edit sound either (might be easy but I don't know how because I can't right now). Good luck, I'll be sitting on my a** as you churn out more amazing hacks!