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hey guys this is my first model importing thread here I'll tell you all the custom models im working on. first up is masked man. aka clas from mother 3 incase you havent played it yet

here, let me show you it. or maybe youve seen it already.

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/ab55953d-40c2-46e3-81a7-8f5fd704a32d/2012-10-24_1909.png)

Spex130 has already rigged the guy hes just finalizing it. he shud come out soon. just have to play with materiels and also stuff

second is prince poo also from earthbound (mother 2 if you come from japan)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/b7412014-aa30-4a75-943b-cbc7c5e52671/2012-10-24_1911.png)

here hes done. Thing is, I'm looking for someone to rig him- In fact, I think that's how I'll do things. I'll make custom models that are open for anybody to rig. Comment if you're interested. thanks


whatever's nect is in the air. i wanna try something cool over ice climber or olimar......... or maybe some fire emblem characters or some [censored]......

whooooaaaaaaa deez r so guuuuuuuud

I'm glad to hear Spex has gotten Masked Man pretty much done, I'm looking forward to seeing the him finished, 'specially after all the pain you went through, haha.

Poo looks like Poo./StarWaffletookmyjokebeforeIcoulduseit :[

I think what you're doing is a great idea, especially since custom models can sometimes be a pain to search for and [censored]. Kudos, and best of luck!

just subscribing o-o. Not much to say. Never played earthbound >_> totally getting masked man though

I gave 'em a day! I did! I did!

Jokekid replied. Maybe. Just maybe?

If no one's called Poo. Well then I suppose.

I'll give it a shot? Just maybe? Just maybe?

*sees masked man model*

*head explodes cause of too good  model*

Poo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was hoping someone would do a custom model for this guy because the vertex kindof looks like poo has a tumor on his head. Masked man looks amazing. Going to have to take Beyond's Masked Man off of my roster finally.

I can rig your stuffs if you need me too ;)

Thanks Spex, but I think you've done enough work for now. :p  I'll let Nanobuds handle this one.

http://www.mediafire.com/?wm4m3q9hjh7n1zs (http://www.mediafire.com/?wm4m3q9hjh7n1zs)

Here's the Max Scene yo.

(btw, I don't really want just one guy to do all of my rigs. I kinda wanna change it up each time)

...also is the caps title thing true?

Cool beans. Nano's boss, so I can't wait until it's done!


Also, I think it is. I've seen warnings given because of it.

well Pik, I know your thread is worthy of all caps.

btw the folds on Poo's and Masked Man's clothing look amazing. Can't wait for the release!!!

Can you send me the textures also?

And I assume hes on Ness?

@Wasabi
Thanks mate. I like clothing folds


@Nanobuds
Nah, I'm thinking over Lucas- Here are the textures.

http://www.mediafire.com/?k67hkjto742dh23 (http://www.mediafire.com/?k67hkjto742dh23)

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Another note: Actually, anyone who wants to can rig these can. The files are out in the open, so feel free to rig whatever i have posted.



edit: oh [censored], I forgot to model the inside of Poo's mouth! I'll fix it and upload the scene again.

Do you want him to have PAT0 expressions? or do you want them kept constant?

Constant for now, I wanna keep the filesize as low as I can.

updated the max file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rg89gy6zp3jyaug (http://www.mediafire.com/?rg89gy6zp3jyaug)

Thanks.

can we get a shine on that sword or would that not be appropriate with his texture?

Not only are these two models sexy as [censored]ing [censored], but you're getting two good riggers to take care of them!

Words can't describe my happiness.

I'm not even a Mother fan and I'm super hyped for these.  Quality models are [censored]ing quality regardless.  I don't even think the people that created the models and textures for Brawl could've done a better job.

Thanks sDoom, but that's a bit of a stretch- The brawl modelers could definitley do better than me, and they have. Man, I'm not even trying to humble or some crap like that, just straight up honesty yknow?

Still, I appreciate the compliment and I'm glad you think so *thumbs up*


Good idea, I think it'd look pretty cool.

Watching this thread. Love your models Pik. Looking sexy as [censored].
<_<
Good >_>

I played Earthbound but I never played Mother or Mother 3.

Also subscribing because awesome models are awesome.

Please show me your ways Pik D:

i played the all and im in chapter 7 of mother 3

subsribing, what sexy model will you throw at us next? :P

Kumatora!

Just playin, I wish.

I think he wanted to do something unique for the Ice Climbers or Olimar. I can't quite remember at this time. Blame the Patron.

(http://i.imgur.com/jUTDA.png)

Just gotta rig the fingers, and tweak the legs. Those poofy pants are so hard to rig :srs:

try this for the central vertices:

rig it at 100% at one leg, than on the other put a 50%
then just blend with the hip selected :P

I've tried that.

I just need to tweak around and play with it. I'll figure it out ;)

Yeah, I know about those pants man... Also, try to bring the collar closer to his face. They should be almost touching his neck, like in the T-pose. But overall, you're doing a pretty great job so far.

I plan on doing an IC or Olimar mod next. I'm feelin like making a cult classic RPG character or some [censored]- something like Chrono or Secret of Mana.

also, when u got the legs roughly done, try selecting the whole pants, and just blend it all with the hip bone, sometimes it does miracles

It'd be awesome to see something from either of those games.
I could see Sprite from Secret of Mana working on Olimar.
As for Ice climbers? not quite sure, but I'd still love to see someone from Chrono trigger.

Even though it's already been done, would there be any chance of a Crono model?

Probably is, yeah. It would look more like his in-game sprite than his offical art.

If the next hack goes over IC, they'd be two different party members with different weapons. Preferably able to do ice magic or some [censored].

If not, it'd be over Olimar, where they would use items as Pikmin.

Suggestions are cool.

Anyway, here's the latest preview of Claus, rigged by Spex130.
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/e9af6a30-1d22-4ad4-8377-d6282379b1ce/2012-10-28_1535.png)

Man Poo and Masked Man rigs are looking great so far.  Props to both Nano and Spex.  I'm almost a little sad the Poo is on Lucas instead of Ness and that Masked Man is on Ness instead of Lucas.  Regardless, I'm definitely getting both when they're done though.

Thanks for the concern man, but I got my reasons for character choices:

Poo is on Lucas mainly for his moveset- In EarthBound, PK Freeze is one of his signature moves.

Masked Man is on Ness because of his animations. Lucas's movements are a bit too fragile for someone emotionless/tough like The Masked Man- The only downside is that he can't use PK Love (Lucas's A moves) which kinda sucks


ALSO CURLY + QUOTE OVER ICE CLIMBERS HELL YEA [censored]

Are you [censored]ing kidding me?

Is it possible for me to even love you anymore?

SMRPG and Chrono Trigger are the most amazing RPGs ever. After Earthbound series of course.

Here is some ideas:

Chrono Trigger:


Super Mario RPG:

i love these earthbound/mother models man, the quality on the textures is astonishing. i would be more than happy to rig your 3rd earthbound/mother model. especially if its Duster or Kumatora.

I remember BP made a Flint vertex over Ike. That was really cool. I liked his hat and mustache a lot.

Pik, would you be interesting in collaborating with me by making some nice custom models and me turning them into playable stages?

I was thinking Winters to start with or maybe even Sea of Eden with the Mani Mani Statue and all.

What do ya say?

Sure, stages sound like fun. They could fight on andonuts' lab and stuff... Tessie could come in!! Yeah i like it. But maybe once I finish everything currently on my plate.


@Wasabi
Hey, me too. BP made some pretty cool [censored] back in the day.

@Shadowsnake
I have a higher-res Jeff model lying around, if you'd like to rig it.

Course! I sure don't want to stop your currently projects, trust me.

By the way, I've been playing Cave Story and fell in love. Soundtrack is amazing.

Good luck with that as well my dude.

btw, u gonna make that cave story dude?
if so, i'd like to call dibs on the rig :P

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/29209612.jpg)

Pik, your model and texture work makes me hard... I would call dibs on rigging your next model, but it looks like i'm 124th in line. I'm not that good of a rigger anyways.

But yea..

<.< I say give Earthbound 0 some love. Chrono Trigger characters would also satiate this deities unending hunger.

Some EarthBound Zero would be pretty dope. An accurate Giegue would be Damn cool.

That or maybe Teddy. Lloyd could be cool as well.

And as I said earlier, Chrono Trigger characters would also be awesome.

Oh and I haven't said it yet, but masked man makes me feel tingly on the inside amazing work.

Please tell me Masked Man will have a shine :af2:

@BigBooty[censored]es

Ha, maybe you can rig my next hack! If not Quote and Curly, than it'll be Chrono or whoever I decide it to be. Surely that will please the God's thirst.

@Ninka kiwi
I'll definitley be making some EB0 models, but not for brawl. :p

I'm glad you feel so tingly inside.

@Segtendo.
You bet your ass he'll be shiny! Kinda like Ness' YoYo or Falcon's helmet.


By the way, I plan on streaming tomorrow at 4 PM EST. BE THERE OR BE SQAURE

please post here when ur gonna do the stream :P

Hey guys, stream

https://secure.join.me/151-157-612

the small bit ive seen was pretty nice, u gotta make a custom model of that ness btw :P

Haha, yeah, that'd be hilarious. Sorry 'bout the stream ending early, join.me sorta crashed.

What's the progress on Poo?

He wants me to re-rig him on Ness now

Well, I guess it depends on how much you've worked on the Lucas one since I last saw it. If he's already done, I won't mind him being on Lucas- That way, you wouldn't have to do the whole rig over again.

It'll be fine. I'll rig him on Ness ;)

swag

Ah, alright. So, it's like the vertex. Nice. Good luck.

Wait, so no Poo over Lucas now?

Just Ness? Both?

Also, where is that sexy ass Masked Man!?

*Looks at Spexy*

just save the weights, import the model on ness' skeleton, and load the weights, im pretty sure they have the same boneset position-wise...
ness/lucas ports should be easy to do

It's getting finished. Just not by me, lol.

....

You serious?

Who's gonna finish it then?

Haven't been told yet, haha. Someone who exists or something.

More or less, Pik and I noticed a small fix, but the small fix requires editing my free time literally isn't large enough to handle. All I know is that if I keep it to myself, it's going to take up to two more weeks to fix, when it's pretty much done.

So, for the sake of efficiency we agreed to let someone with free time do the fix. Its for the best and all that jazz.

what's what needs fixing?

Its really just a hack. A fanart hack. Nobody is getting married or some [censored] lol shouldn't be that serious to the point where the person finishing the rig should be secretive, but at the end of the day, that's part of Pik's personality.

My impatience gets the best of me sometimes. I'm just too much of a damn fanboy of the series. Its uncontrollable. My apologies again.

Nah, it's not a secret or anything. I just didn't ask who it was, haha. Didn't strike me as important at that moment.  Nothing to apologize for. I'm probably more secretive about hacks than Pik is, lol.


Switching from legbones to pantsbones, for great justice.

why that?
masked man doesnt have the same kind of pants as ness and lucas, so he should work perfectly fine just rigged to the leg bones...

Jokekid, while we're on subjet, did you ever get a chance to finish Mother 3??

There's this dude who's been doing Brawl hacks underground. He may or may not join LST soon! He's doing the final parts of the rig.

@jokekid
yeah, but his pants are so poofy, the top half needs to be treated like shorts. Kinda confusing, I know. But yes, for great justice.

Speaking of that. How does one join LST? I know the standards are extra extra high and stuff, but having teammates is fun and the team I WAS on had both creators bail. So having a team would be nice.

Usually just talk to Starwaffle and then the team talks it over, I guess

Oh. That guy. He rigs too? I know he just made sexy ass models and textures. Interesting.

Yup.

Just curious, would you guys be interested in a Junpei mod from 999? I wouldn't do him next, but I wanna know what you guys would think.

Oh [censored] yes, that would be a damn cool model to see made, as he has a sick character design. Curious as to who he'd be on though...

Idk who he is, but he does look like your person over on the LST team page. Is he?

He doesn't interest me much, to be honest. I much rather see some custom models from series you've named such as Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, and Earthbound.

meh, model wise, i dont see much potential, since it's just a regualr guy with fancy clothes

I know a certain gentleman who, I think, would love to texture him.

looks pretty cool (if it's over ness or lucas or something in a chibi form), but i think over other people, the sleeveless vest underneath the down vest kindof and cropped pants makes him look like a doooouche. but thats my opinion haha.

Haha, I guess I'll make him later. Here's the deal:

 Chrono over Toon Link'll probably be next, followed by Quote and Curly. I'm also thinking about Rosalina and Lip

Isn't there already a Rosalina, though? :O

Chrono? YusYus. Quote? Curly? YusYusYus. Rosalina/Lip? Yus.

How many hacks do we have to wait before we can try rigging again, haha?

A custom Rosalina? :af2:
Galaxy's model is a little... lacking.

I guess. I'm still curious to see what he'll come up with if he does decide to do her. ;D

Chrono over Toon Link???? You gotta be [censored]n kidding me

Ike??

No [censored] Ike sir! Marth is too much of a [censored] ass hoe for Chrono's epicness. Toon Link is too short and cartoony looking. Bombs? Arrows? Naw.

Also! Its Crono. Not Chrono. My mistake.

Toon Link would be cool just for all the different expressions you could do for Crono, however, I agree with IS in that Ike is a much better fit proportion wise and moveset wise.

Yeah... Crono should be over Ike. Toon Link is just downright too short. And Marth is... Too feminine, and [censored]y for Crono.

Also... Yeah, Rosalina needs a model. The current import... Eh... I'm not a fan of it.

If you make her, you should use Brawl Peach as a base. And work from there, mix parts from her Galaxy model, with Peach's model, and some custom touches of your own.

A custom Rosalina would definitely be interesting to see.

This comes in mind:

Well... I was more thinking how Brawl updated Peach's look. Compare her normal games look to Brawl, it's much much more detailed in Brawl.

Though... This would be an interesting alternate outfit.

SO what's the progress on Poo or Masked Man?

Hey guys, I think Marth is stealthy quick and cool. But Crono is, infact, goin over Ike.

I haven't heard from Nano about Poo recently, but then again, I haven't asked.  Hm. Masked Man is going through his final stages, my friend Ridge just has to edit a few things. Then i edit material and he's done

OH and if I ever make that Rosalina model; the head and hands would be Peach's, definitely. I guess the hair would be from the galaxy model, since it looks good already. (There'd be a new texture, of course) Body would be completely custom from there.

[censored] yes!


I was wondering about them too actually. Good to hear some progress and that completion is very near, you could say.


Rosalina! I think the hair is good and the hands/arms all that would be best to remain Peach, since 99.9% of her imports, have all weird [censored]ing arms and [censored]. I blame her skeleton or whatever.

Though, a custom body sounds great. Did you like my fanart idea? Maybe too KH looking? Who knows!

Fanart looks badass, but I don't feel like brawl would do that. Gotta stick to brawl style, yknow?

Anyway, Claus is almost released. I tried Falcon's shine on his helmet, and it actually looked bad. So yeah, no helmet g(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)... Everything else is cool though. Just gotta get the gun light to follow the camera; It won't let me change the texturematrix thing to "True" for some reason

try other shines like wheelie throphy or metal sonic...
btw awesome!

Glad to hear it!

u can edit the shine's texture to make it more subtle

I can probably get the helmet to shine, if you still need it.

Alternatively, you could release a shiny version and a more-matted version.

...Yeah, you guys'll have to see it to understand. I'll try the two version thing though

And I'll also have a picture up soon, just so you can see

I can't wait for sexy blog post time!

Well I don't know about a post but have some pictures

Dat sword.

lol the last one <_>

Btw epic job Pick.
Looks really cool especially the effects.

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i dont see the problem with the shine...

That last one's what happens to Lucas on Scott Pilgrim's moveset, right? Pants to Undies in under 10 seconds, lol.

I can imagine that with how the helmet's put together, it'd look pretty bad when you apply effects to it. Why not fuse those vertices? They all use the same textures I think, so you should be able too. Would make the shine extra pretty.

Either way though, lookin' great, can't wait.

He. Looks. Awesome.

The sword looks awesome. I really like how well the fingers were rigged too.

@Anivernage
Thanks. Actually, those pictures are without the shine. (You can see it in the spoiler there below)

@Spex
Lucas always looks funny in the Scott Pilgrim moveset, doesnt he??
You're right about the welding
(I like how it looks without the shine, but I'll try it anyway)

@Wasabi
I'm glad you like it! You can thank Spex and Ridge for the rig.

The helmet looks like plastic in that pic O-o

this.
make the shine more subtle (darken the shine texture)

*Dies*

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=29817 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=29817)

Masked Man released- Version 1, at least.

I took it. And I was happy.

This is amazing! That sword is insanely cool looking! It makes me want to spam side smash all the time!

omg so many epic releases :srs:

Hi. I am GOD.

When you die.

You can have as many [censored]es as you want, my son....

I love you.

*touches your nose with magic GOD finger

Haha. Wow..

Masked Man is absolutely incredible.  I am actually speechless.  I'll pop back with more extensive feedback once I gather the pieces of my mind splattered all around the room.  May take a while...

Feedback time!

Now, before anything. Amazing job on the model, and the texture. Just want to get this out of the way, you got the hair under the mask, I mean what detail. 3D buttons. And that red button laser thing has a glow, as the sword as well. Very nice job!

Now.. Where are the wings captain? No wings? Not even on the FS?

And no FS eyes?

Speaking of eyes, his eye texture should look more "soul-less" Beyond did a great job capturing his personality when he did the eyes, and seeing Ness/Lucas eye texture, it really shouldn't take much.

Besides that, very nice. Wings is a big complaint for me over here though. Idk man if it was done through vertexing, and look decently good while playing, and I heard you can add bones to models, why didn't you do the wings?

I remember some sort of debate or something about this when you first started modeling Masked Man.

(http://i.imgur.com/Cz0DY.png)

>.>
<.<

*runs*

@ItallionStallion
Thanks for the feedback yo! I'll address some stuff.
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/2586234e-6808-45b1-b713-5d0e1a189a1a/2012-11-23_1903.png)
He does actually have FS eyes, but the texture wasn't applied. It appears I forgot...

As for the wings, the main reason is poly count. I didn't want to surpass Ness' number, and the Wings/Backpack combo would be too much. He wouldn't really use them, anyway- Ness never flies, does he? If it was on Pit, maybe so. I guess they'd be cool for a novelty thing, though.

Oh, and I edited his face! More of his face is in shadow, hopefully he looks more soulless.
It'd suck to update him this early, because everyone who downloaded it already would have to re-download again. Maybe when I release the recolors


@jokekid

Cool, a Lucas port! I'd wait until I release the updated version, though.

@Beyond
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/Creación_de_Adán.jpg/300px-Creación_de_Adán.jpg)

Also, it'd be nice if his mouth moved as well.
Unless you wanna go through with him having no emotion, like in the game.

Eh, the mouth wasn't rigged on purpose. He's kind of a walking corpse and all heheh

i didnt know u'd make a update, since u released him and stuff i thought he'd be finished :srs:

but i can easilly port it again, it's a 10/15 minute thing, anyway, will somebody be wanting to re-fix the materials?

Ah! Much better sir, much better.

I see what you mean about the wings. The poly count is a good enough excuse for me though, but the "Ness doesn't use wings" is not good enough lol.

Anyway, amazing job once again. Can't wait until Nanobuds finishes rigging Poo.

Most importantly, can't wait to see more custom models from you in the near future!

Aight, this afternoon I doodled what I wanted the Chrono design to look like:

(http://i.imgur.com/JeqeS.png)

1) They're cropped from the picture, but the pants are rather thin like Ike's.

2) If you notice, the eyes are more styled like Dragon Ball than DBZ's. I think they're more expressive.

Design looks pretty cool, really like how his face turned out in the concept.

u have some nice sketching skills sir

This is a great sketch. I believe you'll make this model look super awesome!

Crono is looking good my man! Face looks a bit weird, I would prefer the Dragon Ball Z style when it comes to the face, but do what you gotta do!

this makes me think in this.


This^

Ah, don't worry. The face'll probably look better in the actual model (I'll try to combine traits with the DBZ face)

Anyway, about Masked Man! Version two is coming soon, with these improvements:

1) I finally got a shine that I'm satisfied with. It still looks odd here and there, but most of the time it's alright. Pictures comin' soon

2) More of his face in shadow; more "soulless"

3) The shadows under the buttons are lessened

4) Hopefully Final Smash and Hurt eyes. His hurt expression looks like this (http://tcrf.net/images/b/b7/Mother3-14.png)

5) Enhanced breasts

Well, that's all for now. See ya next time

@#5
Yes.

"Enhanced breast" lol Pik you're a trip boy.

Still no wings though? =C

Did Masked Man ever actually have the wings in battle?

Well, he had a sprite with wings.
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081118165023/earthbound/images/c/c2/Maskedmanwings.PNG)
Forgot where he used them though. Been a while since I've played Mother 3.

He used them all the time! Are you wiggas high?

Also, I was thinking, wouldn't he be an amazing fit over Metaknight if the proportions were possible?

Think about it. Sword, wings, the voice would fit too, in a way.

Again. I haven't played Mother 3 in a while. I'm bound to forget some things :P

I know sir. Its been a while for me too. Well, it doesn't matter anymore really, think Pik said "ni" for the wings, so we should probably move on.

Can't wait for Crono though. Really can't.

Pik AND Crono?

I must watch this thread. :srs:

Any update on Poo?

Think Poo is in Nanobuds' hands right now sir.

Yup. Right now we're working on Poo's expressions.

ANYWAY heres mask man again. This time, it's a preview of the next (and probably final) version. I'm reluctant to release it at this moment, only because I'm trying to get the red light to follow the camera. (Not to mention alt costumes; I tried my old ones out in-game, and they don't represent the colors very well. Then again, neither do a lot of Brawl's)

Warning, fairly long image ahead. Try to notice how the shine looks at different angles and atmosphere.

 

Helmet and all looks amazing my dude! I'd definitely re-download to get this new version.

Love the detail once again. You make me a very happy fanboy, and honestly you're making me want to play the game all over again.

By the way, aside from the success of this hack, dope pictures!

I'm not even a Mother fan (heck I've never played any of them) yet this is just too damn sexy to not use.  I actually feel like investing more time into Ness just to use this costume.

I like it. I like it a lot!

I think that shine looks VERY nice.

Oh my goodness. This looks AWESOME! This model looks more official than brawl.

Yes, the model looks way more official than Brawl.

The whole game.

All of it.

I'll try to finish Poo tonight. The rest of my free time today is dedicated to him.

His pants are just so hard to rig. Thats all thats left of him to do.

Pik, I love your Masked Man so much.
For the red light, you can create a sphere/geo-sphere around it & flip its normals. (keep it low poly). Then in Bbox change the texture to follow the normals...
I'm pretty sure you could've figure this out by yourself, but in case you haven't there's that...

I think its done.
(http://i.imgur.com/U5FEu.png)

Just gotta add the expressions.

=o!

Holy [censored].

Masked Man revamp. Poo. This is awesome.

Were the expressions added successfully?

Yup, and they work pretty well. Right now, we got normals to worry about.

In other words, where the [censored] is Poo at man? I'm dying to play as him.

The normals and shaders are bein glitchy. We're trying to figure out the issue.

I know I was rephrasing what WasabiSkillz wanted to say lol.

Though, good luck fixing those Normal/Shader issues. I remember Vertex Poo has that weird Normals problem on his forehead. Just a coincidence.

LOL  you were so right bro! I was totally beating around the bush with that question.

Eh, you guys should at least have a picture.

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/2609931b-3f81-4aeb-baef-e0066f246251/2012-12-02_2127.png)

Well, he still looks amazing.

Worked on Pineapple head some more. No model yet, but this step is equally as important. Trying to make sense of the guy's hair
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/814f17c6-e57a-4da2-b52b-ccbccec0201c/2012-12-08_1727.png)

How long before the cease and desist?

T-minus, 36 hours. The Square police are discussing the terms right now. According to my sources, they're aiming for about $20,000 if you ignore the C&D.

In all seriousness though, that looks really great. Model sheets ALWAYS help!

It's been a while, any breakthrough with the normals?

Unfortunately, Poo's gonna have to be put to the side for now. The good news, though, is that I've been working on Crono. He's not quite ready for a preview yet, but he's gettin there.

Oh, and I've been working on Quote on the side. (He's a more simplistic character to model)

I loved your quote vertex so I'm very hyped to see him done, also super hyped for crono.
Question about quote, will he be on a different character now that you can just rig him to someone? I feel like moveset wise falco or fox would work, though I'd be fine with luigi if he was made on him.

A whole 10 days!

You ruined my life. After thinking about it though, he would look real good over Lucas as well with that PK Freeze, but I guess all of that is pointless now.

You made me real happy with Masked Man though! I play as him all the time. I know you probably don't even care lol but yeah thanks again for such amazing quality hacks you bring to us, sir Pik.

About Chrono, I bet it is looking great, can't wait to see some previews!

Quote too? =o

Over Luigi again?

tbh i dont see why quote fits on luigi...
luigi is a weird character, with sloppy and cowardish moves, that doesnt really fit quot IMO

It's not about the moves. It's about the proportions.

Well, it used to be about proportions. Luigi was the best choice back then, since he had the hat and transparent texture- things be different now.  I was actually thinking of importing Quote over a Star Fox character, since they both have guns and all.

Fox! He needs hacks badly.

I've never played Cave Story, but I don't think he is villain character, like Wolf.

Any chance of importing characters from "Another Code"? I've got the models :)

actually he is the protagonist of cave story so h is directly the opposite

Yea. Fox seems like a good idea.
I know Quote uses a gun and all, and Fox seems like the best fit for him.

Is the Masked Man v2 coming up anytime soon?

OH WOW--!! I FORGOT!!

I bet I can get him out later today, when I come home from school.

Fox it is then!

Pik, can I see a preview of Crono before I get eaten by that tsunami?

By the way, I know you're up late, and I see you viewing this thread as we speak.

Quit playing hard to get. ;p

Cool. Excited for it!

Alright guys, here ya go. Merry [censored]in' Christmas   : )
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30284 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30284)

Now, some of you may wonder how Chrono's doing. His structure is a bit more detailed than I'm used to, so he's taking his merry ol time.  I could post a preview, but it wouldn't be much. (same with Quote)

THE OTHER NEWS:
 INSTEAD OF CHRONO IM WORKONG HARD ON TOON ZELDA. WHICH IM SURE ALL THREE OF YOU ASKED FOR
OH WELL ITS FUN BECAUSE SHE MATCHES WITH TOON LINK

What a wonderful gift thou hast bestowed upon us dearest Pik.  I shall treasure it until the end of time.

Revamped Masked Man with recolors AND you're working on Toon Zelda?
Merry freakin' Xmas to you too, Pik.

If you rearrange the letters in Pik you get kiP.  :srs:

Just thought you might wanna know.

Oh, man. This will be cool! I loved Masked Man btw. Merry Christmas!

I'm actually having a fun time working on Toon Zelda. I'm looking at how they changed Toon Link for his Brawl design and

AND!? What were you going to say? :srs: The suspense is killing me!

lol this

Soooo excited for Toon Zelda.

(glad to hear it sir)

and here preview
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/4916528e-2241-4664-b301-9ff27dcee5b9/2012-12-30_1228.png)
Yeah, this looks really silly with the jarring colors and all. However, every SILLY COLOR is an area that has redone UVs/or added vertex loops. (For example, that cloth decoration hanging from her belt has 5 loops, aka the number that non-toon Zelda's has) Still planning on this being over Zelda. but if it's too troublesome, TL'll be just fine.

Oh yeah, and Crono has his face modeled.

Show me Cronos face before I stab you. :srs:

Exactly^

Woah there guys, put the knives away! wow! Here's his face so far. Don't worry, it's WIP lol

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/235e973d-cf27-4fa0-b261-b967d6396003/2012-12-30_1501.png)

He looks a bit too much like Pit at the moment, but by the time he's finished he'll be recognizable as Crono. I don't think he'll be as much as a "babyface" as I originally thought, mainly because I assumed he was like 15 years old. (How old is he anyway?? I know he lives with his mom so he's still a kid, right?)  He'll have a pointier chin and smaller eyes. THINK OF TEEN GOHAN FROM DRAGON BALL

By the way, from the looks of things, the models'll be finished in this following order-

Toon Zelda --> Crono --> Quote

On here (http://chrono.wikia.com/wiki/Crono), it says he's 17.

Zelda looks great!

HMMMM

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/4e11cd23-b81c-4c6e-ba22-de2bcc0e41c7/2013-01-01_0055.png)

Texturin' time. A work in progress, trying to imitate Toon Link's hair texture/

that looks real high quality sir, i love the cleannes of her lips O_O

When I ripped her model, I totally intended on giving her Brawl-styled textures. But I see handing her over to you was the superior decision. Amazing work so far.

Thanks joke. Glad you liked it! The mouth is actually edited from the Wind Waker texture, like Toon Link's was.

@SJS: Ah, sorry for beating you to the chase lol. Thanks for bein' okay with it.

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/896a7cd0-3524-4adc-829b-4f19581b0b1b/2013-01-01_0832.png)
Continuing texture work, here's a close-up of the crown.

I would love you if you make a Toon Sheik to go with Toon Zelda. :srs:

Toon Shiek? Hmm, how about this gal instead

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081011004448/zelda/images/1/13/Tetra.png)

A pirate using ninja skills?

Pirates=ninjas?
GENIUS.

Debate between them is over. All arguments are now invalid.

belto and ornaments

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/c78b1ac2-9cc6-472c-9db8-d2375fb53252/2013-01-01_2328.png)

These previews are stunning. I am so excited.

Thanks mate

finished the hair texture now. Heheh, I might as well finish in a day or so.

I say again.

I want to learn from you man.

The fact you made the textures from scratch is what makes me want to learn.

Your textures make me wet.  :srs:

Pik. My god. It's beautiful ;-;
Your's do as well.

Oh, it's not an issue at all! I haven't touched the model since I ripped it half a year ago. It's nice to see it going along after all that time.

Can I rig Toon Zelda?

She looks fantastic! :srs:

Thanks dude, but we'll see. By the time I finish her and Tetra, my new computer should arrive. By then, I'll be able to rig models myself again :vyse:

Finished the belt and cloth textures:

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/88759d73-15ba-4f7f-aa32-57e8ca4891bc/2013-01-04_1434.png)

Oh, and I did expressions, too.

Now, only the dress and arms are left.

(Also, fear not, Crono fans, I haven't forgotten about him)

Wonderful!

Glad to hear it. Sorry for the constant updates, but I have most of the dress textured

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/3657d8a8-debf-44cb-8405-38455d88f4af/2013-01-05_1029.png)
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/fdf334dc-6231-4597-8786-97e611277027/2013-01-05_1028.png)

will continue to post progress

Cool progress man who do you plan on putting her over? Zelda? Lucas?

I bet Zelda with a size mod.

Though to be honest. I wouldn't mind Lucas as a Wifi safe option too.

I don't care who she's on, I just want to see her kick some falcon butt >:|

Zelda's the plan, but if the proportions don't work out then it'll be either Toon Link or Lucas. I don't want to distort the model too much, but Zelda's moveset is, well, literally perfect.

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Oh btw guys I made this stage like 5 months ago and never posted it but here is a quick shot

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/325d2dd8-fdad-4887-b5d5-6ebd206ccf59/2012-08-24_1348.png)

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swag

zelda looks gorgeous :srs:

That's the whole stage, Pik?

much better texture then the brawl´s mushromy kingdom 1-1 stage

Please tell me the bushes are the same as the clouds!

We'll see boy!! They aren't at the moment, but I'll probably get them to match.

second last update on Zelda:
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/fd66d63e-3eac-4c48-9de7-401b17e37185/2013-01-09_2332.png)
some gloves

Not sure if I like how they looks zoomed out;

Hm... Maybe a little less wrinkles in the materials of her gloves? Seems a bit too scrunched up or something.

Other then that, I like where this is going.

I'd go with a few less wrinkles on the gloves as well.

*Votes for less wrinkles.

Also, this makes me die when I think about how good a custom Kumatora by you would look.

I don't see what's wrong with the wrinkles.

that there're a bit too much, IMO the gloves should look kinda stretched and elegant and stuff xD

having too much wrinkles makes it look less cared about, and she is a princess so yeah...

this is MY OPINION though

That's a great point, Joke- Peach, for example, hardly has folds on her gloves at all.

Here's the edit:
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/215cec4e-2214-4ae9-9611-ecc4618aa585/2013-01-10_2320.png)

The wrinkles at the elbow and wrist were intentionally kept, since that's where her skin bends and stuff. It would naturally create folds there. (Still, I tried to dumb them down a bit)

@Stallion
DON'T FEAR :vyse:
you may get your wish one day.
(but only maybe)

Join me and Itallian and help us finish. We're almost done anyways, haha.

Anyways, good work as usual. Toon Zelda mods are definitely some of my faves, and this one's shaping up to be the best yet. Keep up the good work, yeah?

If a Toon Link version is ever created, she would need her rapier :srs:

Heck, if there's a Lucas version, the stick could be replaced with said rapier.

I also hope for a version over Lucas as well.

We'll see what character she goes over... Right now, the options are Zelda, Toon Link, and Lucas. In the meantime have some alts
(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/39dbe199-d1be-4d8f-a39b-5be326fdeb05/2013-01-11_2205.png)

She looks great!!

That last recolor looks like a cross between SS and TP to me.

Anyways, They all look great! ;D

Dude, i sure would like to rig her over Zelda. :srs:
This will be the best birthday present. :af:

@KTH
I replied to you via PM

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/49956c03-b542-4938-95e2-5188326f6d0f/2013-01-13_2019.png)
Got a head start on tetra.

heh.

head start.

Pik, are you like an ex-developer from Nintendo that didn't like the roster choices from brawl and decided to become a modder or something?

Because that's the only way that you could explain how you got so damn good at texturing in the same style as brawl characters >.> Really, I think your textures are my favorite parts of your models, as they are so dang accurate. Anyways, I'm hyped for Tetra, was looking forward to an import of her at some point.

This.

Also, I think you should think twice about letting KTH Rig T-Zelda. Take a closer look at his vault. He's not as exemplary as he makes himself out to be.

*remembers that one Zelda game where they actually have them talking with voices*

Yeah... I mean, no offense to KTH. But his rigging skills... Lets just say, need work.
That's from his latest hack in his vault.

Eh, I decided to rig the model myself, and not because I didn't think KTH wouldn't do a good job. By the time I finish Tetra, my new computer'll come and I'll have enough memory to export DAEs. The reason I couldn't rig before was because of my shoddy computer, lol.

hahaha thanks Ninka... I dunno, I don't think I'm an ex-Nintendo employee. I don't even know Japanese, pff. Though, I try to see what's consistent in each character model. They all have this certian "feel" to them I try to imitate. I dunno. I could write a post on what I think makes something brawl style, but I haven't gotten around to it. From what I've noticed, there are three different character styles.

Yeah I've noticed the different styles, but even when I "attempt" to replicate them, they don't come out nearly that good xD

I'm curious, would Crono's texture style be something like the fire emblem characters?

YES.
Been wanting a Tetra import :srs:

*Toon on Zelda! Tetra on Shiek! Size mod for both!*

Ahem. Now that I've disposed of my rabid fanboy outburst,

both of these things have all of my hype. Keep up the good work, okay?

Oh boy, Tetra too! 

Also the red colored Toon Zelda seems off to me. The Yellow dress is a bit much I think, It reminds me too much of ronald mcdonald =x

hey make blogpost already damn you.

You and Aafyre both you little [censored]s. Mad love though, mad love.

By the way, Tetra is whatever to me, though she looks great and all. Nice hair and [censored] man. You are one of the best UV editors to me, if not the best. Your texture work is just.. on another level.

Now. Will you ever make a tutorial on how you UV edit?

That would be the most amazing thing. We need Ganondorf from WW as well. That'd be so awesome.

Fantastic job, Pik. You are seriously the man.

@Ninka: Crono'll probably be styled after Ike for the most part. The scarf'll be based off Falcon's, and the hair like Bowser's.

@Spex: Yup, that's the idea. Zelda and Sheik :vyse:

@Starwaffle: Haha... ronald mcdonald... Okay, what color would you suggest? Maybe pink like in Melee? Also, yeah, I'm gonna make a blog post for this and masked man once I'm done

@Stallion: Thanks bro. Maybe the next model'll hold your interest more, wink wink. Anyway, I'm honestly new to UVs so I'm not sure I could write a whole guide to it. I just use Unwrap UVW and stuff

@Oshtoby: Glad you liked it dude. I probably won't do WW Ganon, but I started on a vertex of him a long time ago.

by the way new preview.........

(http://content.screencast.com/users/GFLK/folders/Jing/media/fb094e46-5508-4dfd-8be9-13e30633d892/2013-01-15_1706.png)

Those textures are fantastic!

This is getting ridiculous at this point.

lol

Holy! I think I might know who that is.

*Winks back*

It was actually Crono

As much as people might want Zelda/Tetra over Zelda/Sheik, I feel the need to state the obvious: Their character models clearly fit Toon Link's natural shape. I feel that rigging them over him would be a lot less laborious than Zelda or Sheik. I'm not saying they shouldn't be done, but perhaps doing Toon Link first would be best, and then let someone who wants to dedicate time to it can rig them on Zelda/Sheik.

>says the guy who has already been waiting for Zelda/Tetra on Toon Link since model vertexing.

havent u thought about the fact that the person/people who are working on this actually have already decided to dedicate time to it?

I'm referring to rigging time, specifically. But yes, I suppose your right, in a very "Well, duh." kind of way.

Any previews on Crono's progress?

Will the alts and tetra ever be released?