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Title: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 07, 2016, 11:22:33 AM
I'll make this simple to save time. I downloaded Brawl Box versions .63-70 and when ever I view the models it doesn't work. On the newer versions Brawl box closes due to an error and the older versions have a red X across the screen.

I have been learning how to hack before I tried it, and when I did it wouldn't open. How do I fix this, so I can edit models. I know how to open it, Ctrl+P. Do I need to install a driver for my PC for it to work? I have a VOSTRO 1000 Dell PC with Windows 10 downloaded from another computer to fix mine.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 07, 2016, 02:02:36 PM
Are you sure it does this with the regular Brawl models? Because I'm pretty sure that this is a problem with the model(s) that you're testing. I've noticed that every single time I try to view any 3D model of Gray Fox with BB, BB does the same thing to me, but with hundreds, even thousands, of other imports that I've viewed does not crash BB in the slightest.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 09, 2016, 10:59:09 AM
Are you sure it does this with the regular Brawl models? Because I'm pretty sure that this is a problem with the model(s) that you're testing. I've noticed that every single time I try to view any 3D model of Gray Fox with BB, BB does the same thing to me, but with hundreds, even thousands, of other imports that I've viewed does not crash BB in the slightest.

My PC is a Dell Vostro 1000 and when I got it it was messed up. I reset it and reinstalled windows and it didn't work so I wiped everything out and installed Windows 10. I think my PC in general is missing some files to make it work.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 09, 2016, 11:16:15 AM
What I meant is try viewing the model of something like "FitMario00.pcs" here:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4vhNdf69qaSdEZCbnBWLUhpcXc&tid=0B4vhNdf69qaSZ0N0MnBjOXFYMU0

Because I've had what you described happen to me in BrawlBox, but my computer is fine. So I don't think your computer or BrawlBox is the problem. Please try it and lemme know what happens.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 10, 2016, 09:03:02 AM
What I meant is try viewing the model of something like "FitMario00.pcs" here:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4vhNdf69qaSdEZCbnBWLUhpcXc&tid=0B4vhNdf69qaSZ0N0MnBjOXFYMU0

Because I've had what you described happen to me in BrawlBox, but my computer is fine. So I don't think your computer or BrawlBox is the problem. Please try it and lemme know what happens.
This is what I have been using for Brawlbox only FitLink00.pac/pcs, it's how I know it doesn't work. Some of the Brawlbox's I downloaded won't even start and I get an error similar to when I try to preview the file model saying;
 
'Brawlbox has shut down unexpectedly, windows is searching for errors'.

It worked on my previous PC, so it's definitely my laptop that's the problem. Do you know of a way to get it started without it shutting down afterwards? I know how to use Brawlbox, but this is mainly for screenshot purposes.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 10, 2016, 12:03:10 PM
I'm sorry. By "red X across the screen", I thought you meant an error like this one: (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i1274.photobucket.com/albums/y426/srs1992/Pics/error_zpse8f65ede.png&imgrefurl=http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic%3D60266.0&h=521&w=1024&tbnid=3jQ8Q5-4aYwVQM:&docid=VyoP4b_PAIjmjM&itg=1&ei=o4i7VtmGNYLc-QHOo5_ABg&tbm=isch&client=firefox-a&ved=0ahUKEwiZ5NnN8O3KAhUCbj4KHc7RB2gQMwgdKAAwAA)

Do you think that maybe you could screenshot what the error looks like for me?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 12, 2016, 01:21:00 PM
Sure.

Click this Link. (http://i.imgur.com/Bpzw40v.png)

All I did was click the MDL0 FitLink00 and the error showed up. The error you showed me in the screenshot happens in the older versions of Brawlbox. Anything to do with viewing the model results in error.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 12, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
I've never seen that and I know that it has nothing to do with graphics cards or anything, as clicking that + only shows the technical(i.e. numbers and text documenting about the object in 3d space) info. Also, are you running BrawlBox as an administrator? Because when I initially used BrawlBox, it did weird errors like that to me, and then I changed it to running as administrator, and it worked completely fine.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 13, 2016, 04:48:06 AM
I've never seen that and I know that it has nothing to do with graphics cards or anything, as clicking that + only shows the technical(i.e. numbers and text documenting about the object in 3d space) info. Also, are you running BrawlBox as an administrator? Because when I initially used BrawlBox, it did weird errors like that to me, and then I changed it to running as administrator, and it worked completely fine.

I tried running as an administrator and it had the same result. Is there a driver I can install or need, so I can view models, and possibly edit them? I have been told that my PC may be missing when my brother gave it to me, but I didn't expect something this stupid to happen. If I can just edit hacks on here without any errors or just look at them for screenshots, the waiting would be worth it...

I'll just assume that Dell PC's can't use brawl hacks, but I am still gonna look for a way to fix it.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 13, 2016, 05:04:20 AM
It may be a corrupt version of Brawlbox. Here, try using mine, and see if the same error happens with this one: http://www.mediafire.com/download/fu8el8u8rfdc2ka/BrawlBox_Functional.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/fu8el8u8rfdc2ka/BrawlBox_Functional.zip)

Post Merge: February 13, 2016, 05:05:08 AM
P.S. These files must be extracted to the same location, as they're all required for BrawlBox to run properly.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 13, 2016, 08:27:02 AM
It's not the file. It's got to be something to do with my PC. Does Brawlbox work on 32-bit PC's?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 13, 2016, 01:07:11 PM
I don't think so. I think it only works on 64-bit PCs.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 17, 2016, 11:32:36 AM
I don't think so. I think it only works on 64-bit PCs.

Is there no way for me to use Brawlbox anyway? I mean it is possible to use 64-bit programs on 32-bit PC's or can I/need to switch my PC to 64-bit first.

EDIT: I just switched my PC from Windows 10 32-bit to Windows 7 64-bit and Brawlbox still doesn't work. Is there a driver required for viewing Brawlbox models? I was wondering, did anyone else have the same issue?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 17, 2016, 08:54:25 PM
Well, that's the thing, is that I've never seen that error before. I do have a theory, though. Use an old version of BrawlBox(Like, say, v .63 or earlier I know would work for this test) and do the same thing of expanding the MDL0, but DON'T preview it like you would with Ctrl+P. See if it will still throw the same error with this case or not. If it does or not will at least narrow the list of possibilities down.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 19, 2016, 12:19:17 PM
Well, that's the thing, is that I've never seen that error before. I do have a theory, though. Use an old version of BrawlBox(Like, say, v .63 or earlier I know would work for this test) and do the same thing of expanding the MDL0, but DON'T preview it like you would with Ctrl+P. See if it will still throw the same error with this case or not. If it does or not will at least narrow the list of possibilities down.

I used my sisters PC (with her permission) to see if Brawlbox works, and it did. I went to control panel and saw she uses 32-bit. That means it's my PC that doesn't work Brawlbox. Even using 64-bit it still doesn't work.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 19, 2016, 03:56:17 PM
Ok, but please do the test that I mentioned above, to see if it's a graphics card problem or not.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 21, 2016, 01:13:03 PM
I tried it (on my Dell Vostro 1000, I'm currently using my sisters PC) and I got an error showing a red X like you showed to me before, only it happened after I pressed Ctrl+P, not before. It worked on my sisters laptop, all of the Brawlbox versions do but don't on mine.

What's my next move? It doesn't show the error when I go to model, it only shows the error when I attempt to preview it.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Then I don't know for sure, but it sounds like either a graphics card problem or a DirectX problem. Probably the DirectX. What's the version that you have installed?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: Lucoshi on February 21, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
Is that
"Unable to find an entry point named 'glCreateShader' in DLL 'opengl32.dl"

:oshi:
I guess i also have this problem!

Here is all the details
Code:
Unable to find an entry point named 'glCreateShader' in DLL 'opengl32.dll'.
   in OpenTK.Graphics.OpenGL.GL.Core.GetUniformLocation(UInt32 program, String name)
   in OpenTK.Graphics.OpenGL.GL.GetUniformLocation(Int32 program, String name)
   in BrawlLib.OpenGL.GLTexture.Bind(Int32 index, Int32 program)
   in BrawlLib.SSBB.ResourceNodes.MDL0TextureNode.Load(Int32 index, Int32 program)
   in BrawlLib.SSBB.ResourceNodes.MDL0TextureNode.Prepare(MDL0MaterialRefNode mRef, Int32 shaderProgramHandle, String palette)
   in BrawlLib.SSBB.ResourceNodes.MDL0MaterialRefNode.Bind(Int32 prog)
   in BrawlLib.SSBB.ResourceNodes.MDL0ObjectNode.Render(Boolean wireframe, Boolean useShaders, MDL0MaterialNode material)
   in BrawlLib.SSBB.ResourceNodes.DrawCall.Render(ModelPanelViewport viewport)
   in System.Windows.Forms.ModelPanel.OnRenderViewport(PaintEventArgs e, GLViewport v)
   in BrawlLib.OpenGL.GLPanel.OnRender(PaintEventArgs e)
   in BrawlLib.OpenGL.GLPanel.OnPaint(PaintEventArgs e)
   in System.Windows.Forms.Control.PaintWithErrorHandling(PaintEventArgs e, Int16 layer)
   in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmPaint(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.ContainerControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.UserControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   in System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 21, 2016, 04:32:22 PM
I'm not entirely sure, as I don't know all that much about OpenGL and stuff, but I think so.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 24, 2016, 07:43:31 AM
I'm not entirely sure, as I don't know all that much about OpenGL and stuff, but I think so.
Could it be something to do with .Net Framework, or another system file or application?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 24, 2016, 08:50:51 AM
Dunno. Maybe.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on February 25, 2016, 07:33:58 AM
Dunno. Maybe.

I'll have to check if it's corrupted or needs an update. Does all Brawlbox versions need .net framework?


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on February 25, 2016, 07:40:31 AM
I believe so. When I tried to run .63 on my XP, it couldn't run because I needed the .net framework.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: UN on September 08, 2016, 05:36:26 PM
Okay. So my sisters PC works Brawlbox 0.71 and every other. For what ever reason, it doesn't work for mine. I have been trying to narrow down the possible reasons it's not working. It happened after I installed windows 10 32 bit. I now have windows 7 64bit, and it's still not working. I did a clean install on both installations. So I know it has something to do with missing software.

I tried using older versions of Brawlbox. Still not working.


Title: Re: Brawlbox Model Issues
Post by: windhunter7 on September 08, 2016, 06:24:56 PM
Weird; it's worked for me on a flash drive; so it's your computer that's not running it, yes? You said your sister's computer can run it? And you have the following files in the same directory as the BrawlBox program, right(Assuming you're using a later version of BrawlBox; earlier versions various libraries[also called libs] or folders that should be in the same directory)?

BrawlBox.exe
BrawlLib.dll
Changelog.txt
OpenTK.dll
REL ID List.txt