Flandre's PSA!!
Alrighty, you've waited for it, and it's Finally here. Flandre Scarlet's PSA thread!! :af:
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7529/flandrewings.png) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/flandrewings.png/)
Also, her weapon, the the Lævateinn
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9364/laevietinnn.jpg) (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/laevietinnn.jpg/)
So, what to do... I guess it would be good to start naming all of my fabulous PSA hackers! Thay are:
-Hyper Wave Kusanagi
-Ninkakiwi
-HiFive
-Shadowsnake
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Arighty. Next, here's the moveset list. Many of her moves are taken from this video, ESPECIALLY her Side Special!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z5JuAKW19U&feature=player_embeddedMoveset:
Flandre's moves will revolve around the elements of Fire and Slicing. She will be lightweight (About Toon Link's weight) and fast (Also like TL).
A: Flandre swings her Lævateinn horizontally, causing about 3% damage with Slicing effect and SFX. Very low Knockback.
AA: She swings vertically this time, from down to up, and sends the opponent in the air slightly, also with Slicing effects, SFX, and damage of maybe 4%?
AAA: As the opponents in the air, she basically teleports over him, and Swings downward doing about 5% damage, sending the enemy to the ground. Same Slicing effects/SFX.
Foreward tilt: Similar to Wolf's, she step's foreward and swings the Lævateinn, which can be sweetspotted.
Up tilt: Her wings fold backward over her head (So the crystals point upward) and they grow and shrink quickly, causing Slicing damage of 8% with slicing effects and sound effects.
Down Tilt: Peach's down-smash with Slicing damage, causing 3% damage for every hit. Slicing damage and SFX.
Up Smash: Flandre uses the Laevetinn, and spins it in a above her head. It's a trap move, and causes 4% damage and hits 4 times. Slicing damage and SFX.
Side Smash: Flandre does a series of three, quite fast slices with the Laevetinn. The first does slicing effects and 5% damage, the second swing does fire effects and 8% damage, and the last does both Fire and Slicing effects, with 10% damage and high knockback.
Down smash: Flandre Stabs the Ground with the Laevetinn, causing stone/ground effects and MediumHigh knockback with 8% damage.
Neutral special: Flande shoots 5 Spikes ahead of her. High range, but low damage, about 2% each hit. Slicing effects when come in contact with enemy.
Side Special: Flandre creates a large Blade from Flame, and swings it horizontally. Exactly what is shown in the video at 0:03. MediumHigh Knockback with Fire effect when in contact with enemy, 15% damage.
Down special: Flandre throws 4 energy orbs into the air, and they fall to the ground, two on the left of Flandre and two on the right. When they hit the ground, they cause small explosions. While in the air, they cause buring damage of about 2% damage. When they explode, thay cause 5-8%.
Up special: Her wing crystals explodes, causing a spike on enemies, 7-8% damage, and pushing her upward strongly.
Neutral Special Air: Flandre shoots 8 short-range spikes around her, much like she does in EOTSD. They cause 2-3% damage and move the enemy away frim Flandre. They can also bounce off of floors and walls, much like R.O.B.'s laser.
Side Special Air: Flandre moves at a supersonic speed in the either the right of left direction (Depending on whether >B or <B was being pressed). It is basically Lucario's Up Special, only it goes farther and causes fire damage.
Back air: Flandre Lifts her wings up (so the crystals point behind her) and she swings them downward, causing slicing damage of 8% and a spike.
Foreward air: Flandre does a front flip while using her Lævateinn to cause slicing damage of 5% and a spike.
Down Air: Flandre Closes her wings like a pair of scissors
downward, causing 5% damage.
Up air: same as down air except up.
Final smash:
Flandre's Final smash, minus the soccer ball. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIAH6USEbUQ
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I used my animating Skills to show what Flandre's special move's should look like, EXCEPT for her side-special. THAT should look more like it does in the other video. (Scroll up)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IxzwldvFAs--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So how's the work going to be split up? Well, I guess the more Expirienced PSA hackers will get the more complicated moves. Wave is Probobly the most expirienced, so he will most likely get the special moves.
But before I do that, I need to make some animations for her.
BUT before I do THAT, someone needs to edit Flandre's PSA to make her have three jumps, and make her about mario's Height. Can someone do that? :)
Here's a download to her PSA, so please use that to make any edits to her size, jumps, or anything else. Her models and Motionect are also included if you need to try the changes in-game.
http://www.mediafire.com/?xku2lyytyoh
Alrighty, Caio for Now!!
-Roo525
*Reserved*
Keep this thread on-topic people. This is all about Flandre. Nothing else.
I didn't even know about Tohou.
But just seeing Wave doing a new PSA just gets me Hyped.
It his first balanced moveset. :P
Quote from: ADJSonic on June 15, 2010, 12:02:46 AMIt his first balanced moveset. :P
No, this'll be my fourth balanced one actually. o_o (For an example, has everyone forgotten about when I balanced and fixed Jose Gallardo's CC Shadow 3.0? I had it named at Shadow Plus)
And if I secretly have my way, my 5th broken as well. ¦3
OOh sounds intresting.
Oh do u mean this one?
Quote from: Hyper Wave Kusanagi on June 15, 2010, 12:06:56 AM
Quote from: ADJSonic on June 15, 2010, 12:02:46 AMIt his first balanced moveset. :P
No, this'll be my fourth balanced one actually. o_o (For an example, has everyone forgotten about when I balanced and fixed Jose Gallardo's CC Shadow 3.0? I had it named at Shadow Plus)
And if secretly I have my way, my 5th broken as well. ¦3
Dont worry Wave. Your Broken version is next up on the list. :)
@wave
Shadow _O_
I remember now
.... i thought this was ALREADY STARTED and was in progress.... but seeing as there are 4 psa helpers, it shouldn't be long.
I can give her three jumps. I'll see if I can change her height as well.
Quote from: highfive on June 15, 2010, 04:00:47 PM
I can give her three jumps. I'll see if I can change her height as well.
Alright Thanks!
Thanks to Hi-five, Flandre now has three jumps.
Yay...
PSA has been updated.
By the way, does anybody know how to use Fortwaffle's MDL0 resizer? I think that's what I want to do to change Flandre's size.
you change the size of a char. in attributes, change the number under weight i think. If not, look at a thread that shows which controls size. Also the jump thing could be changed in attributes also, which is what high five probably did.
Flandre is sooooo bad ass! I like her theme song to ;)
yeah, I know. Flandre's song is so freakin spooky and awesome. similar to Satori's theme.
I'm currently working on her height. And yes, I'm using PSA's attribute functions to edit her height. It's pretty guess and check right now. I haven't gotten time to check my edits to see if they're right.
didn't someone already make a baby peach vertex hack along with the mario and luigi ones?
I imagine so. Yeah.....
How's that PSA going HiFive?
if that's true, then all you need to do is apply your psa to that.
also: thats an epic sig, Roo. "and then there were none..."
Quote from: Dotz on June 19, 2010, 05:06:46 AM
if that's true, then all you need to do is apply your psa to that.
also: thats an epic sig, Roo. "and then there were none..."
Thanks Dotz. Quick question, do you know how to use the MDL0 resizer? I would rather change the size of the model itself than waste space on the PSA.
well, If I am correct, then a vertex hack is applied to a texture, not an entire psa, which would affect all textures. If I'm not, then... idk.
Work is slow. Screwed up the models with MLD0 resizer. Attempting with PSA.
This is why Oizen warned us to NEVER use the MDLO resizer. ¦D
Yep. Now trying to find how to do it through PSA. I don't think I have the latest data file though.
Quote from: highfive on June 20, 2010, 04:05:25 PM
Yep. Now trying to find how to do it through PSA. I don't think I have the latest data file though.
Yeah you do. No changes have been made to the PSA. We're waiting for the updated size before we do any PSA work. Meanwhile, I'm doing animations. :P
hm... so It's all down to the size, now is it? hm... well, the strange thing is, all records of baby peach have been erased from everything. which leads me to believe that it was one of my rediculously realistic dreams where I saw it.
No, she existed, along with baby mario , luigi, and yoshi. You cant find it?
so, is it complete
Quote from: Roo525 on June 22, 2010, 01:23:41 PM
No, she existed, along with baby mario , luigi, and yoshi. You cant find it?
Those were all Partial Size Modifier Codes. Nothing more.
I've done it! She's now roughly the size of Mario!
http://www.mediafire.com/?mdlnzzetdmj
(http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad167/highfiveofHOR/Flandre.jpg)
WOOOOOOOOT! Way to go highfive! :happy:
is there a way for you to make it so the crystals don't split like that?
Quote from: Dotz on June 23, 2010, 12:36:38 AM
is there a way for you to make it so the crystals don't split like that?
I tried to fix it, but Yoshi's wings are far too complex for it to be fixed.
I.... don't know. PSA is supposed to resize everything. I didn't notice the crystal split.
Quote from: highfive on June 23, 2010, 01:10:51 PM
I.... don't know. PSA is supposed to resize everything. I didn't notice the crystal split.
The crystal split was already there, dont worry about it. XD
Are you going to make animations to make her dress less "poofy"? It kinda makes her posture look funny with her flat chest and her poofy dress.
Quote from: TommoPuppy on June 24, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
Are you going to make animations to make her dress less "poofy"? It kinda makes her posture look funny with her flat chest and her poofy dress.
I have surprise. Dont worry about how she looks at all anymore. Something amazing is coming up...
I *think* I'll be looking in to modifying her jumps. I mean, three Falco standard jumps equal a near Meta Knight recovery, not to mention her Up Special. That's a pretty scary recovery. I'm thinking around the height of Link's jumps.
who cares? she's flandre! the most badass, somewhat insane resident of gensyoko! not to mention one of the most powerfull.
Balance over power. I'd rather have her balanced then have another inane GOD PSA floating around.
W
Quote from: Roo525 on June 24, 2010, 11:57:02 PM
Quote from: TommoPuppy on June 24, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
Are you going to make animations to make her dress less "poofy"? It kinda makes her posture look funny with her flat chest and her poofy dress.
I have surprise. Dont worry about how she looks at all anymore. Something amazing is coming up...
Zomg suspsense!
It'll be good. Saw a sneak peek. It'll give Scarlet a much more unique aspect in brawl
Quote from: highfive on June 25, 2010, 02:11:26 AM
Balance over power. I'd rather have her balanced then have another inane GOD PSA floating around.
fun over balance. you realize that we're talking about FLANDRE right?! balance doesn't apply to characters with near-god status! That'd be like... insulting or something!
seriously, though. balance is overrated. people had so much fun with brawl before everyone became paranoid over metaknights unbalanced (fast) moveset, and other stuff.
whatever though. as long as it's flandre, and not suckish, I'm cool.
Roo did you want me to make more costumes for flandre I'm tempted to make sakuya next...
Quote from: Ninka_kiwi on June 26, 2010, 10:31:50 PM
Roo did you want me to make more costumes for flandre I'm tempted to make sakuya next...
NO!! Dont do ANYTHING with Flandre right now. Tell that to everyone at HCBH too!!
oh fine this secret thingy better be important enough for me not to be able to make sakuya XD
It's pretty sexy. Must say so myself.
Quote from: highfive on June 27, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
It's pretty sexy. Must say so myself.
flandre? SEXY?! what has the world come to XD
The update. Not Flandre...
Pedophilia anyone?
HA HA HA
(http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy158/Jorge1444/pedobear.jpg)
lol
nah i kid i actually can't wait for this to come out =D
Quote from: highfive on June 28, 2010, 02:29:50 AM
Pedophilia anyone?
is that an offer? :P
seriously though. this is probably one of the most kick ass things to ever happen.
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is that an offer? :P
seriously though. this is probably one of the most kick ass things to ever happen.
Oh you'll think of it as 10 times better as soon as I Show off something.
how much of the PSA AND animations is done?
I think flandre is sexy too, does that make me wierd? no shes over 400 XD
Right, ok so Roo and I are working on something top secret..
also I wish people would stop asking about making alternate costumes >.<
thats my job..
If you need any PSA help, I'd like to offer my services, although it looks like highfive has everything under control. However, I'd still like to help a little bit (only a little, because I'm busy with my own PSA at the moment, but I love Flandre so much I want to help!)
I'm kinda experienced with PSA, so I think I can contribute something.
And the suspense is too much... how can anything make Flandre 10 times better than the amazing things that have brought her thus far?
I suggest you hire Sumire. He's probably better than me.
I'm still a scrub at PSA.
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on July 03, 2010, 04:58:56 AM
If you need any PSA help, I'd like to offer my services, although it looks like highfive has everything under control. However, I'd still like to help a little bit (only a little, because I'm busy with my own PSA at the moment, but I love Flandre so much I want to help!)
I'm kinda experienced with PSA, so I think I can contribute something.
And the suspense is too much... how can anything make Flandre 10 times better than the amazing things that have brought her thus far?
I can use all the help I can get I suppose. You'll be working alongside Wake kusanagi.
Quote from: highfive on July 03, 2010, 02:23:55 PM
I suggest you hire Sumire. He's probably better than me.
I'm still a scrub at PSA.
You still helped though, so credit still oes to you.
Quote from: Roo525 on July 03, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on July 03, 2010, 04:58:56 AM
If you need any PSA help, I'd like to offer my services, although it looks like highfive has everything under control. However, I'd still like to help a little bit (only a little, because I'm busy with my own PSA at the moment, but I love Flandre so much I want to help!)
I'm kinda experienced with PSA, so I think I can contribute something.
And the suspense is too much... how can anything make Flandre 10 times better than the amazing things that have brought her thus far?
I can use all the help I can get I suppose. You'll be working alongside Wave Kusanagi.
Quote from: highfive on July 03, 2010, 02:23:55 PM
I suggest you hire Sumire. He's probably better than me.
I'm still a scrub at PSA.
You still helped though, so credit still goes to you.
Fix'd. ¦D
ja,ja,ja flandre voice of falco is reallyyy....funny.xD good job keep on working....i am very close to finish my suika ibuki moveset but is on peach motion etc...good luck
How is this going so far by the way? It looks like it could turn out to be a very fun PSA :)
For everyone who's wondering whats going on, just look at this picture:
(http://homepage3.nifty.com/knuko/mmd/img/kiyoSikiFlan.png)
Quote from: Roo525 on July 13, 2010, 08:13:10 PM
For everyone who's wondering whats going on, just look at this picture:
(http://homepage3.nifty.com/knuko/mmd/img/kiyoSikiFlan.png)
Heh, It looks like a Imported Model.
If that isn't an imported model then you are a GODLY vertex hacker. If not then it still looks pretty damn awesome!
I laughed reading those last two posts. Mostly because I stop by HCBH though. So I know exactly what that is. :P
Uh... I don't know what that is, but I'm fairly certain that's not a model or vertex or whatever or anything in-game...
I don't get what's going on... @.@
Imported from what?! are you guys forgetting that touhou is a danmaku shooter made by a single person? there's no way that could be imported from anything. (unless ZUN is making a 3d touhou game that you are somehow involved in) that appears to be a cell-shaded model with a cartoony outline.
You're all wrong!! This is a fan-made model for the Miku-miku dance. I was able to find a patch to import it to Blender, and export it, so I may use it to vertex it over pit with the new vertex hacking method.
OR, there is a programmer I'm a friend with named TCLL, who is scripting an exporter from Blender as the MDL0 file type!!
So... this is the beginning of a new era?
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on July 14, 2010, 12:07:06 AM
So... this is the beginning of a new era?
I hope so. He needs something called the Vertex conversion methods now.
Lol I have that MMD model i just never new who she was. if you get this to work all the MMD models could be put in brawl that would be epic.
Roo you gotta see if there is a Reimu model 2.. REIMU = PWNGE (just downloaded touhou)
Ah it all makes sense now! XD
Quote from: Dotz on July 13, 2010, 11:48:53 PM
that appears to be a cell-shaded model with a cartoony outline.
so... how am I wrong again?
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so... how am I wrong again?
Your not... I dont think I ever said you where on the fact that it's a cel shaded model, and it has a dotted outline.
Quote from: GeminiCross on July 14, 2010, 04:35:42 AM
Roo you gotta see if there is a Reimu model 2.. REIMU = PWNGE (just downloaded touhou)
For your viewing pleasure:
(http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Manko91/Reimu-1.jpg)
Quote from: Manko91 on July 16, 2010, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: GeminiCross on July 14, 2010, 04:35:42 AM
Roo you gotta see if there is a Reimu model 2.. REIMU = PWNGE (just downloaded touhou)
For your viewing pleasure:
(http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Manko91/Reimu-1.jpg)
YES! YES! REIMU PWNS! YESSSSS!!! *coughs* carry on then >.>
Something about that Reimu seems a little... off. I cant really put my finger on it though. Oh well. Maybe it's just me.
Whatever. There's a bunch of MMD models available. We'll find the perfect matches when we need them.
I don't think you could use the conform thingy on Reimu because it doesn't work on things like cloth and hair (things that move in the wind and whatnot) and those floppy sleeves look like they would move quite a bit in the wind...
Quote from: Roo525 on July 16, 2010, 10:41:55 PM
Something about that Reimu seems a little... off. I cant really put my finger on it though. Oh well. Maybe it's just me.
Lifeless?
She seems a little... anorexic, maybe?
Quote from: Roo525 on July 18, 2010, 12:17:48 AM
Quote from: TommoPuppy on July 17, 2010, 04:18:02 AM
Lifeless?
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on July 17, 2010, 04:24:05 AM
She seems a little... anorexic, maybe?
Both excellent points.
I don't know if it's lifeless looking, look at any model in BrawlBox, they look lifeless there too, though it would need animations... Like eye animations, mouth animations, whatever.
However, I do agree she is WAY too thin, she needs shape or something...
I was more referring to the colours being dull and the eyes having a blank stare.
Well, If anyone really cares for my opinion, here's the three things I see wrong with the model.
1) She looks Anorexic...
2) Her shirt is supposed to be attatched to her dress, not a separate piece with her stomach showing.
3) She looks too old. I'm sorry, but Reimu is supposed to be 15 years old. Not 20 or however the picture looks. My stupid opinion though.
does scarlet go over peach?
Quote from: milliondollarmistake on July 19, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
does scarlet go over peach?
She was going to, but she's most likely going over Pit now.
:yay: since I already have a PSA for peach. It would have been a tough choice to get her or not.
Quote from: Manko91 on July 16, 2010, 01:31:18 PM
Quote from: GeminiCross on July 14, 2010, 04:35:42 AM
Roo you gotta see if there is a Reimu model 2.. REIMU = PWNGE (just downloaded touhou)
For your viewing pleasure:
(http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Manko91/Reimu-1.jpg)
That's actually decent looking.
Quote from: Roo525 on July 20, 2010, 04:04:22 AM
Quote from: milliondollarmistake on July 19, 2010, 07:42:37 PM
does scarlet go over peach?
She was going to, but she's most likely going over Pit now.
then how come when I downloaded the PSA all I got was FitFalcomotionect.pac?
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then how come when I downloaded the PSA all I got was FitFalcomotionect.pac?
She was ORIGINALLY going over peach, THEN it was Falco, and now we're settling on Pit.
I hope you got someone smart for the psa if it's over pit =p
Quote from: theshyguy on July 21, 2010, 12:44:17 AM
I hope you got someone smart for the psa if it's over pit =p
I just found out something! there's this code that allows you to have more than one PSA on one character! it's called clone engine (I think) so either way I can get scarlet.
Quote from: milliondollarmistake on July 21, 2010, 01:01:45 AM
Quote from: theshyguy on July 21, 2010, 12:44:17 AM
I hope you got someone smart for the psa if it's over pit =p
I just found out something! there's this code that allows you to have more than one PSA on one character! it's called clone engine (I think) so either way I can get scarlet.
Ohh the clone engine... Hmm yea that would work..
Quote from: Roo525 on July 20, 2010, 06:35:51 PM
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then how come when I downloaded the PSA all I got was FitFalcomotionect.pac?
She was ORIGINALLY going over peach, THEN it was Falco, and now we're settling on Pit.
any progress on the new vertex
you don't want hcbh dying without it XDDDD
but srsly how is it going?
Quote from: Ninka_kiwi on July 22, 2010, 12:15:37 AM
Any progress on the new vertex
you don't want hcbh dying without it XDDDD
but srsly how is it going?
*Sigh*
Dont ask...
so... hows it going? sort of a bump, but I seriously want to know
This is amazing.
Quote from: Dotz on July 26, 2010, 10:15:20 PM
so... hows it going? sort of a bump, but I seriously want to know
Things are taking awhile. Long process and all. All progress is shown here first:
Hardcorebrawlhacks.wordpress.com
Thats the hacking team I'm part of. Again, all progress will show up there before ANYWHERE else. I'm planning to post soon too, so look out.
To be honest, I'm not sure that morphing Flandre's model onto Pit's will work that well, because you need to have the same number of vertices or faces (I think, I'm really bad at using this method) to morph, or else it just gives you an error and does nothing at all.
Also, the Clone Engine is a bit buggy... sometimes it just doesn't work. It's better than nothing, though.
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on July 27, 2010, 08:24:58 PM
To be honest, I'm not sure that morphing Flandre's model onto Pit's will work that well, because you need to have the same number of vertices or faces (I think, I'm really bad at using this method) to morph, or else it just gives you an error and does nothing at all.
Also, the Clone Engine is a bit buggy... sometimes it just doesn't work. It's better than nothing, though.
Well, theres an wasy answer to that.. don't use so many vertices when recreating the face.. may look the slightest bit different.. but with a texture I'm sure no one will even know.
I've recently gotten into touhou due to not knowing wat it was. I have to say, I'm rly excited about this now! I think once you get a good model working, and get some in-game pics, this project will start moving faster. You have my support for this project ^^
me too! if there is any missing colors you need, I'll send them (thats really all I can do besides verbal support)
here's me with verbal support!
GO TEAM!
Quote from: Dotz on August 20, 2010, 10:26:01 PM
here's me with verbal support!
GO TEAM!
Well thank you for the bump. The issue is that I cant successfully conform wrap Pit's model over the new Flandre. I'm going to have to wait for the MDL0 converter being created by TCII to do that... >_>
...uh, what does that mean?
Well, really, the Flandre that you already had was amazing enough to make a Flandre... the model would be really nice, but it's just not possible right now.
But Roo means that he can't vertex hack Pit into Flandre because the method he's using isn't cooperating and that until a major breakthrough in model importing comes around, this project isn't really going anywhere.
oh, well that sucks. I was really looking forward to Flandre in Brawl.
um... what about kid goku? he wasn't vertexed. and he didn't get in by magic.
1. There is, in fact, a Kid Goku vertex hack. However, that isn't what we're talking about here.
2. Kid Goku's model was in MDL0 format, the only type that works with Brawl. Flandre isn't. She's not going to be in Brawl until the afore-mentioned model hacking breakthrough occurs, one that can covert Flandre to MDL0.
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on August 25, 2010, 01:05:35 AM
1. There is, in fact, a Kid Goku vertex hack. However, that isn't what we're talking about here.
2. Kid Goku's model was in MDL0 format, the only type that works with Brawl. Flandre isn't. She's not going to be in Brawl until the afore-mentioned model hacking breakthrough occurs, one that can covert Flandre to MDL0.
Well Said Omelette Lady.
aww. dang this is on hold... man..
I know huh
Well you could start a ''Team Project with custom animations a la Cloud Strife'' with a Flandre Scarlet vertex over peach and animations ported from zelda(for the magic) and marth(for her weapon) or you use the vertex hack over zelda that was just released and port animations from marth and make a mix of weapon and magic animations
since you can't work on the model now why now work on just the psa?
goooo TEAM! (I just don't want this thread forgotten)
Quote from: Dotz on September 09, 2010, 12:18:56 AM
goooo TEAM! (I just don't want this thread forgotten)
Thanks Dotz. I REALLY want to work on this, but I really cant due to the model not being possible to import. And according to a person I asked to try the method for her, he said her model was too complex to be conformed. HELP SOMEONE!! ;-;
You can ask RandomTBush.. he got stuff like Bill's hat and other non MDL0 things into Brawl and fixed Lloyd' bone tree, etc...
Although you're kinda asking for the Holy Grail here... importing a character with bones and stuff...
You could use that Peach with wings you made earlier, that was incredible work...
Or use DAO's Flandre over ZSS...
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on September 11, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
You can ask RandomTBush.. he got stuff like Bill's hat and other non MDL0 things into Brawl and fixed Lloyd' bone tree, etc...
Although you're kinda asking for the Holy Grail here... importing a character with bones and stuff...
You could use that Peach with wings you made earlier, that was incredible work...
Or use DAO's Flandre over ZSS...
That Flandre is over Zelda. :P
And importing something like that is incredibly unlikely or will take several months to over a year most likely.
Quote from: dingoberriz on September 11, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on September 11, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
You can ask RandomTBush.. he got stuff like Bill's hat and other non MDL0 things into Brawl and fixed Lloyd' bone tree, etc...
Although you're kinda asking for the Holy Grail here... importing a character with bones and stuff...
You could use that Peach with wings you made earlier, that was incredible work...
Or use DAO's Flandre over ZSS...
That Flandre is over Zelda. :P
And importing something like that is incredibly unlikely or will take until Project M comes out.
Had to, sorry. XD
Also, I was supposed to be a part of this before, but everything seems to keep changing around, and I've lost interest. Exactly what are the SOLID plans for this? Cause I'm not seeing any. We might as well just use Goddess Zelda with DAO's Flandre and call it a day...Like I have been. XD
Quote from: dingoberriz on September 11, 2010, 06:23:49 PM
Quote from: Sumire Omelette on September 11, 2010, 06:08:18 PM
You can ask RandomTBush.. he got stuff like Bill's hat and other non MDL0 things into Brawl and fixed Lloyd' bone tree, etc...
Although you're kinda asking for the Holy Grail here... importing a character with bones and stuff...
You could use that Peach with wings you made earlier, that was incredible work...
Or use DAO's Flandre over ZSS...
That Flandre is over Zelda. :P
And importing something like that is incredibly unlikely or will take until Project M comes out.
Both of you make good points and suggestions. Sumire Omlette, are you aware yet that a programmer and friend of mine named TCLL is making scripts for blender to fully import and export files as MDL0's? He has already demonstrated importing FULL models into Blender, and the ability to edit their verticied and put them back in brawl!! After thats done, there wont be any need for Uber-hexing like RandomTBush does. Even if I where to ask him to hex Flandre in for me, I'd doubt he'd do it. Reason being that, unlike you and Wave, he isn't a fan of Touhou, and he doesn't take requests randomly.
Oh, and here's a thread to TCLL's Scripting and whatnot:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=280525&page=3
There's more if you keep searching too. ;)
And Dingoberriz, Read above. :P
Quote from: Waveshocker Sigma on September 11, 2010, 06:55:12 PM
Had to, sorry. XD
Also, I was supposed to be a part of this before, but everything seems to keep changing around, and I've lost interest. Exactly what are the SOLID plans for this? Cause I'm not seeing any. We might as well just use Goddess Zelda with DAO's Flandre and call it a day...Like I have been. XD
Your still a part of this Wave. I just need to get this to work. X|
I read the first part f your post and became interested again. XD
Well ok, you know which character your going to port over, and you know the rough height..
so why not finnish a moveset. And since the animations use the same bones that the vertex will.. make the new animations.
Finnish the PSA ready for when the vertex is done.
As far as I can tell this project is on halt because you can't morph Pit's model into Flandre. Why not just manually do it using MarioKart's method or DasDonkey Box 2? Vertex hacking isn't THAT hard.
Quote from: TommoPuppy on September 12, 2010, 03:43:34 PM
As far as I can tell this project is on halt because you can't morph Pit's model into Flandre. Why not just manually do it using MarioKart's method or DasDonkey Box 2? Vertex hacking isn't THAT hard.
Y'know what if its seriously that bad, ill do my best to make flandre tommorrow usig good 'ol Peach.
Or would you prefer I used the Falco port..
I know the new method now so its no biggie..
Up to you?
can you try and make it over pit?
Quote from: milliondollarmistake on September 12, 2010, 07:36:10 PM
can you try and make it over pit?
Of course.. guess we could use that one til the model is vertexed.
thanks since I already have something for peach
Yeah. My Peach slots are full of awesome textures, already. It makes me feel kinda silly making so textures for her myself. :P
WOAH news time ladies and gents.
DarkshadeDX is RE-CREATING Flandre over Pit. He sent me a pic, and it looks FANTASTIC so far. I'm not going to post it here though, because I'm not sure if he wants me to yet, but trust me, this WILL be Flandre!!
@ Wave Kusanagi
I'mma gonna need to to edit Pit's PSA to make Flandre the proper size, about mario's height or a little taller.
Quote from: Roo525 on September 18, 2010, 03:00:35 PM
WOAH news time ladies and gents.
DarkshadeDX is RE-CREATING Flandre over Pit. He sent me a pic, and it looks FANTASTIC so far. I'm not going to post it here though, because I'm not sure if he wants me to yet, but trust me, this WILL be Flandre!!
@ Wave Kusanagi
I'mma gonna need to to edit Pit's PSA to make Flandre the proper size, about mario's height or a little taller.
You don't need to edit the PSA, its the motion file.
Using DingoBerriez method, also thanks for not posting a pic, Its not complete enough yet for one.
Quote from: DARKSHADEDX on September 18, 2010, 08:08:00 PM
You don't need to edit the PSA, its the motion file.
Using DingoBerriez method, also thanks for not posting a pic, Its not complete enough yet for one.
I'd rather have it be done through PSA, because if you notice, size edited through the motionect causes some frames to be regular-sized during certain animations.
Just try out Kurobit's recent Youmu Konpaku hack from ESH. When walking, stop, and you'll see for a single frame, Yomu is back to Marth's regular height. There is no way to fix it as of yet. I encountered a similar Problem when I worked on Deoxys with Fireking220.
Plus, it's just easier overall than having to edit EVERY one of Flandre's animations.
And your welcome for not posting the picture. ;)
Flandre is my favorite Touhou character so I'm definitely looking forward to this. ;)
looking forward to seeing the new vertex!
how is the vertex coming along?
I havent been able to contact Darkshade for a few days... I wonder whats goin on over there...
did you PM him?
Quote from: Roo525 on September 21, 2010, 10:31:54 PM
I havent been able to contact Darkshade for a few days... I wonder whats goin on over there...
Flandre is gonna get a huge kick in the teeth..
Right anyway If my laptop isnt taken off me tonight Ill probably get close to finnishing it.
Quote from: DARKSHADEDX on September 22, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
Flandre is gonna get a huge kick in the teeth..
Right anyway If my laptop isnt taken off me tonight Ill probably get close to finnishing it.
Darkshade!! Where have you been? And what does the term, "Kick in the teeth" mean? Is that a good thing? I hope so...
And Huzzah!! :D
*Edit*
Idiom Definitions for 'Kick in the teeth':
Bad news or a sudden disappointment are a kick in the teeth.
Uh...oh...
Quote from: Roo525 on September 22, 2010, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: DARKSHADEDX on September 22, 2010, 07:54:23 PM
Flandre is gonna get a huge kick in the teeth..
Right anyway If my laptop isnt taken off me tonight Ill probably get close to finnishing it.
Darkshade!! Where have you been? And what does the term, "Kick in the teeth" mean? Is that a good thing? I hope so...
And Huzzah!! :D
*Edit*
Idiom Definitions for 'Kick in the teeth':
Bad news or a sudden disappointment are a kick in the teeth.
Uh...oh...
Well its not terrible, but Pits vertices are a pain in the ass to work with and usually screw up after exportation. But its going ok.
EDIT:
(http://i53.tinypic.com/1z720rn.png)
Ignore the texture its rough.
why in the hell are you vertexing? didn't you guys already have a model?
as well as a vertex for another character? man, if you guys would stop switching character slots, this would be done already.
Yea..I kinda agree with Dotz..Why dont you just put it over peach for now...And when the converter comes out just put it over pit like you originally had it planned..
Quote from: Dotz on September 22, 2010, 11:59:14 PM
why in the hell are you vertexing? didn't you guys already have a model?
as well as a vertex for another character? man, if you guys would stop switching character slots, this would be done already.
We are vertexing again to improve the model, Pit is a better base.
Well since were using Pit anyway.. why not use a Pit vertex?!
Rather than using a temporary port with glitches.
This is a slight let-down...
Quote from: Grif on September 23, 2010, 12:14:47 AM
This is a slight let-down...
Its SLIGHTLY not finnished.
Seriously thanks though.. You made me feel like spending my time making that so far so worthwhile.. -.-
It has a crappy texture and an out of place dress..theres still tons left to do on it so don't go judging it.
Well this stuff takes time Grif so be patient. If you hack you would understand. Even though I haven't I know this complex work can be a pain since I tried to learn more and didn't get a thing.
The hack costume is going great so far though the crown needs to be edited to a hat, the guantlets and boots(don't know what to call them really) need to be edited to whatever the previous costume had and the white scarf needs to be hexed off. No pressure, I'm not even interested in this stuff, I just give advice.
Im just saying..Its taking a while...And i know it would take some more time..But ive been anticipating this hack for a while. Even though i dont hack much, but couldnt you just have left it on peach? Im not critisizing this work on pit. Just asking..
Quote from: OMGWeegeeNorris on September 23, 2010, 12:23:25 AM
Well this stuff takes time Grif so be patient. If you hack you would understand. Even though I haven't I know this complex work can be a pain since I tried to learn more and didn't get a thing.
The hack costume is going great so far though the crown needs to be edited to a hat, the guantlets and boots(don't know what to call them really) need to be edited to whatever the previous costume had and the white scarf needs to be hexed off. No pressure, I'm not even interested in this stuff, I just give advice.
Thanks Weegee that's basically what I meant to say,
cept it's half 1 (AM) over here and I'm tired and stressed with very little calmness?
Yeah thats not the finnished product.
EDIT: It WILL (hopefully XD) look better on Pit, and theres really no reason to port A model of Peach over Pit anyway.
Is she going to have that staff, thingy?
Guys stop screwing over Darkshade or NOBODIES gonna get Flandre.
If your gonna blame anyone for it taking a long time, blame me. I've just been trying to get the "perfect" match for this project. And Pit was the one, and Darkshade offered to edit it.
If you ask me, It's looking AWESOME so far DS. I'm gonna have to ask Kurobit how he got those Anime-style eyes to work on Marth for his Youmu hack.
The only thing I could suggest for the model other than the obvious things, is to make her head rounder. Other than that though, it's completely up to you. ^^
I'm not blaming anyone or screwing em' either. I'm patiently waiting for another good hack for me though I liked it over Falco. I got the pac and motion for him but didn't get no dang costume. That I hated about the posts. Still going to give advice since I'm useless otherwise.
Quote from: OMGWeegeeNorris on September 23, 2010, 01:09:16 AM
I'm not blaming anyone or screwing em' either. I'm patiently waiting for another good hack for me though I liked it over Falco. I got the pac and motion for him but didn't get no dang costume. That I hated about the posts. Still going to give advice since I'm useless otherwise.
that's what most useless people do (me)
Quote from: OMGWeegeeNorris on September 23, 2010, 01:09:16 AM
I'm not blaming anyone or screwing em' either. I'm patiently waiting for another good hack for me though I liked it over Falco. I got the pac and motion for him but didn't get no dang costume. That I hated about the posts. Still going to give advice since I'm useless otherwise.
Well it was changed for reasons of simplicity, but overall just keep on advising I guess.
Look at all the haters >.>
this is taking awhile cuz roo and darkshade had to learn the new vertex method. And they want to make the model perfect so they are taking there time also remember all of us working on this have eithur little to no free time or are working on other stuff as well.
Also a note is DS requested me to do some of my texture mapping magic so I will be mapping the texture from the flandre model onto pit.
Thank you for those that are (somewhat) patient.
have you guys, you know, done anything with it yet?
Sorry but something has disturbed me and I thought id comment. It may not be my place to say.. any you guys may have established this but.. Milliondollar mistake.. stop asking about it. Im sure their doing best to put out some good work and you gotta be patient. Asking about it 24/7 will only get them more angry... well thats just me anyway..
??? seriously???
the last time I asked was September 22. Check the date before you comment on things.
Quote from: milliondollar mistake on October 31, 2010, 09:24:11 AM
??? seriously???
the last time I asked was September 22. Check the date before you comment on things.
Yea I dont check the date :/ it was just something that disturbed me.. -_-
Well at least Mr.M cares for hackers right? So let's just go to our happy place and avoid a fight........I don't want mdm to release that city destroying Piranha Plant from Super Mario on us XP
I'm guessing you guys want an explaination eh?
Well truth is, it is REALLY difficult to vertex Pit into Flandre. It's especially MORE difficult to find someone who can export models from 3DS after using the new method, for I can't. :(\
I have already finished a hack for Cirno, but I cant find anyone who will export for me. If someone can do it, I can continue the project.
I'm going to bump this one final time. (I haven't been on in awhile, anyway)
Bump? Oh please.
Fixing the model? Oh, would be about time. Why isn't this in the request forum?
Quote from: Get A Load of This! on November 16, 2010, 03:44:26 AM
Bump? Oh please.
Fixing the model? Oh, would be about time. Why isn't this in the request forum?
Its still being worked on. Progress has and is being made with the actual PSA. So This technically, it still belongs here.
Don't mean the thread, just the part where the model needs to be kick-started and working.
Guys, I for really want to get this to work but... my skills of a vertex hacker are extremely lacking. Especially as seeing how I cannot use the new method, due to nobody willing to help me export my progress. >:(
I'd do it myself, but I always mess up somehow.
Besides, my vertex hack wouldn't turn out being too good anyways. Note: I have NOT under any circumstances givin up on this project. It is still my main hacking achievement, and I will not stop hacking until it is complete. I am going to work on this project, and this one alone for now, until it is fully, and finally comeplete!!
Ask more.
Try the vertex request thread.
Do something.
hnnnnnng
I think we got our definition of hnnnng mixed up.
Anyway lemme see if someone would be willing to do this...maybe...tired of hearing the name Flandre come up from the grave.
that's good to hear!
edit: sorry for the unintentional bump. I forgot I was on the second page :P
Quote from: Dotz on November 19, 2010, 03:38:29 AM
that's good to hear!
edit: sorry for the unintentional bump. I forgot I was on the second page :P
lol well hows the Flandre so far? Is she a pain in the a**?
Quote from: Ct. OWN on November 20, 2010, 04:26:30 AM
lol well hows the Flandre so far? Is she a pain in the a**?
She always has been. XD
Well its really confusing. I can attempt to vertex Pit into Flandre using a model I found, and have it come out horrifying, HOWEVER, I could also wait for TCLL's MDL0 converter, which is coming along surprisingly quickly.
Well there's a Zelda Flandre, but you want to replace gay pit, right? Why don't you try porting the models and maybe even the original PSA?
I'm not actually too much of a fan of that flandre (Dont tell the creator, I'm good friends with him. XD)
She looks too old. Flandre, while being 495 years old, looks like she's about 10.
Besides, wouldn't you much rather have THIS is brawl?
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4985/flandr2e.gif)
O_O wow. Never heard of Touho before but this is amazing!
yes, yes it is
I hear that Flandre is evil, is that true? I don't know the game very well.
She's not evil, more of insane
Well that's reassuring. >.< Good thing she's a game character or I would've been dead already.
Evil? Uhm... Flandre will do whatever she likes really, so it's hard to say.
Yeah, a female Chuck Norris with Sonic's personality without the saving people thing.
I'm just saying this hypothetically, but wouldn't it be easier to develop the PSA moveset before working on the model? Hell, you could even make it for one of the Flandre vertexes already in the Vault.
Well extremely disturbing Avvy guy,
I cant really do that, seeing as we dont EXACTLY know who flandre is going over yet. We could say pit, but that could change over time, due to the need of articles for certain attacks.
Well if you do the air n-special the way it is...you might have a nightmare on your hands.
Reccomendation? Use false projectiles or come up with a new air n-special.
Bump, so has this been worked on lately?
GASP, SOMEONE WHO CARES OF THIS PROJECT!!
It's kinds put on hold until I can import the model using the MDL0 Converter being made by TCLL.
That sounds wonderful...
I'm most looking forward to seeing a GOOD Flandre in Brawl!
I can't wait..... :) try to make a balanced version if not already planned.
I was plannning on ONLY a balenced Version. Wave Wanted to make an unbalenced one as well, and I dont see a problem with it. :3
OTHANX... I had no clue was Tohou even was till i saw this....
Me: dang that looks hard...
I think you guys should upload the most advanced version of this psa.. you know, to leave people waiting and make this more interesting xD
Ultranecropost.
Flan's almost in Brawl, so I'll probobly make a new thread.
"Almost in Brawl," as in actual progress or just progress on the MDL0 converter?
She's already in BB. She just needs to be converted correctlly to work.
You still going to stick with the same moveset that's in the OP?