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Very nice!(Though I'm not too fond of the FS eyes)

oh please put up a download!!! ive been searchin for a good peach texture and this is the one!

Beautiful job, Julz! I can't wait to use some textures my very own friend made. Keep up the good work!

At first I want to make enough textures. Then I will post the download links at once. I first want to make sure that the people like my work. And yeah as i see there aren't enough people around here. So yeah sorry if you have to wait for it/them.

But yeah my first task is to make Peach  :peach: & Zelda  :zelda: Textures, maybe others, too. I have a lots of ideas so far.


~~Peachy

*stares at sunshine Peach*

*zombie moan*

download....

Hmm no Im using Photoshop and it didnt worked. After making the parts transparent, they turned into white parts :O

Nice Peach textures.Love the Shadow Queen texture. <3

1. Go to the "Channels" tab on the right. Tick the Alpha thing and click on that channel.
2. Choose the brush tool and choose the color black. Then with the black brush, color whatever you want transparent. Whatever you colored should've turned red. Since Peach's and Zelda's dress textures aren't +1 or +2, making them transparent should be the same thing.

Picture:
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk172/qpupalpuff/laksdjf.jpg)

The little blur in the bottom left says, "Oops, make sure this is black."

need download link for sunshine zelda.

Uh well yeah anyways it's Sunshine Peach *cough* well yeah

Hurrays Rosalina is out :-*

Spot on Rosalina.  Wow.

Ow well thanks :3

There was this Cosplay Rosalina pic on google xD

It was perfect to mirrow the dress :D

Greetz JuLz ~~ Peachy

Wow.IMO,This Rosalina texture's possibly Your best Peach texture. <3

Any chance of a download link anytime soon? =3

I hope XD

First I want to finish off all my Peach ideas...

well thant are actually two more ^~^

so i guess yeah pretty soon :3

Oh wow, Rosalina looks incredible! I've been meaning to find a better one for my blue peach replacement. Put up a download plz!

FINALLY a good Rosalina texture. All the other ones out there suck. You have to release it!!

OMG!!!!!!!!! Best Rosalina I've seen so far!!!!

Their Rosalina sucks. =P

The dress color is way off, the earrings are the wrong color, there's no star on her chest... It's far from accurate. The only other somewhat good one I've seen is Register's sister's, but the dress color is all wrong. >_>

Let's take a look now, shall we?

Here is THE Rosalina.

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3163/princessrosettarender.png)


Now here's Syntax Error's

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3446/rosalina000.png)


And Register's and his sister's

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/6451/al0901271503binout.jpg)


Here's ian's

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1629/supersmashbrothersbrawle.png)


Zackneji's

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1393/esteladm3.jpg)


And here's yours (M&SG)

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7691/rosalinapeach.jpg)


Finally, here's JuLzTheBowzard's

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4710/245f34e66c3e5b59.jpg)



There you have it. JuLz has given the Brawl texture hacking community something great. It'd be a shame if it doesn't get released...

Oh wow I just went away to make a new texture and now this LOL
Thanks for those compliments but my Rosalina isnt that perfect at all :3
You will see it when she'll be released ;P

If it wasn't for me, he wouldn't have ever released those textures. :srs: But I'm glad he did, and I think he is, too. Nobody should keep their texture to themselves... Unless it's something like my second Toon Link texture. XD

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL I don't believe I wrote that LOLOLOLOL.

EDIT: and i think syntax error rozalina is the best.

I was actually about to come in and say the colors for Julz' Rosalina looked off, but seeing those comparison pics and actually looking at the details, yeah Julz' NAILED it.

And for the record, until this one, M&SG's Rosalina was my favorite of the Rosalina attempts

Me too!! when I looked at the details I found that julz's one is the most realistic rosalina but syntax error has purity an professionalism.

Those are some sexy as textures :p

SO THEY ARE NOW AVIABLE!

enjoy <3

 Greetz JuLz ~~Peachy

:D! *downloadz*

I need those classic character from the past to replace the default costume with. Ah, Melee days..

LOL Melee days? XD Sunshine Peach is actually the Peach from Super Mario Sunshine  ^^

Anyways I'm glad you like it

Yeah, but still (Well, not sure), I think it pretty much looks the same as SM64 (Never played through the whole thing).

Thanks. :D!

Can someone tell me the order of folders on the sdcard  for stage textures.

A link with the stage names would be also great :D

X:/private/wii/app/RSBE/pf/stage/melee

Stage names (http://www.sendspace.com/file/kha571).

Yes! Thank you ^~^

I just tried out your textures in a set of Basic Brawls,and I enjoyed using them.^_^

Oh,and your Shadow Queen and Dark Peach links are sorta wrong.Just wanted to point that out. =P

Yeah I already fixed it out XD

Mh
Oh nice so do you want me to make a Melee Peach?
I could make her when I find the time ;P

Because here in germany the school already started again. So I won't have that much time to make textures now =_=

Maybe I can make her at the Weekend.

Just let me know if you would appreciate it *wink*

OMG YES! I just made a Melee CSP using the picture from Melee. Lulz. Can't wait.

No problem. :3

This might be a great one as Roslina xD

But as you know I will keep the reality-look for her dress that you can enjoy her much more ;P

You mean, her Brawl HD dress? D: Well, whatever suits you, I'll still use it. :D

Hey guys, I'm new at the forum, and I use and love the textures you guys make, but I want to know how can I make my textures appear on char selection menu?

Thanks before hand!!

See Ya!!

For that you need CSP, but I dont use them because i always change my textures selection so yeah and to be true I dont know how to make them or in which folder they have to be put in xD ^^" sry X_X

http://kittycorp.freecp.net/index.php?topic=4.0

I'd like to see Rosalina's Parasol :D

I got a new laptop and i dont have my photoshop anymore.....
where can i get a new cracked one or GIMP?

Please, and thanks :3

Um...

>_>
<_<

Here (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Photoshop+CS4+with+keygen).

I advise you be extremely cautious with keygens around. Most of them are infected with viruses.

Note to others: I did NOT directly link him.

SO There is her!

Need some comments if u like her or not...

Nice Melee Peach! The only thing I think is that the part where her um boobs o_0 are should be a little more pink.

They are its just the light :D

Also the yellow decoration on her dress has gotten a but light but its all due to the stages light effects ^^

Oh it was XP sorry

Muhaha you wont beleive what i created today  :kdance:

Don't tell me it's a nude peach.....
XP Idk what?

oh Crap no, this will be in future XDD

Uh does the game Blazeblue tells you something? ^~^

OMG!!! In teh future! And I saw the title I just never played the game.

<_<

I'll give her water wings >_>

Comment and ratings are appreciated >__>

sigh *rolls eyes*

Next thing... hmm ideas ;0

maybe with a Very small dress of dominatrix with a big shoulder reinforcements, could be work...

OH MY GOODNESS, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE MAKE MILOTIC DOWNLOADABLE!!!!

I absolutely ADORE it! Fantastic job!!!

Hmm I dunno. Maybe a Gyrados for Sheik >_-

The milotic is pretty creative and very good :O

I wantz melee peach! D:<
and Zelda?
that's new..... :P

He's not done with Melee Peach. He needs to edit the eye. ;3

LoL why should i edit the eyes or the hair because I dont want to have a Barbie Plastic Peach!
I wanted a Peach with her Melee Dress which still looks natural. Im done with her!

Remember thats Brawl where the Graphics should still be realistic. When I want a Melee peach then I play Melee O:
And if you can't appreciate my Idea then fine dont use her!


Yeah and who cares?

I do, but didn't you say something about changing your eye? Sorry, if I misunderstood.

Aside from Shadow Queen, all your textures are pretty sweet. I especially like Milotic Zelda. Though there's one texture hack for her I'm afraid I'll never see.

That was about Rachel's eyes, but i don't know how to give them like new eyes >__> I tried but it was crappy crappy [censored]ty D:


Why isn't she sweet? She was my very first TexHax and I love her >:O

Great Milotic Zelda! Download for it please!

Hm will see, I dunno ;P

Does someone like Koume and Kotake? I'm in the thought to make a Zelda Texture for both of them? I'll make the sexy hexy Twin Rova sis's, but of course they'll be young ;P

Great Rosalina.. yours stands out among most of em

I downloaded your Rosalina, It looks FANTASIC in game!!! Also are you on KC:MM team?

Oh thank you <3 Ya I try to do my best  :af:

Oh ya they might be ...  and I dunno ;P  :happy:

Ya the Snapshots in my thread is the older version of my Rosalina with some little mistakes, but I fixed them. So ya thanks again.

And No ;P I'm still free, undecided.

Alright Guys ;D

Second Zelda is done.

Next ones are Koume and Kotake ;P

Julz, thank you so much for making my original character, Scarlet! I'm goin head over heels for the blue skin, seriously...granted, that IS how I designed Scarlet, but I didn't realize how well she'd transfer over to Zelda!  :o I think Zelda looks even better w/ blue skin.  ;D

Hey Guys and LoZ OoT Fans :DD

In association of the Spirit Temple Texture I had THE idea!

Koume and Kotake are done.
I hope you like them, or you don't ;P

Here the Sexy Younger Twinrova o3o ;O

I sometimes haven't the time to upload them, because I have to do much work for school D:
And in my thread's headline it's just a joke with the "only today" ;D Man I am being sarcastic :3

XDD

Melee Peach<3.

*downloads*

I love you.

LOL Veran is done. Next one is ... ~~~~ a surprising

Love the Milotic and Shadow Queen ones, defiantly the best Zelda and Peach textures I've seen so far

Your Farore is gorgeous! 0_0 DO WANT!

Din looks fantastic as well, I just don't know where I'd put it :/

Hm look in the headline where the texture's name are. That might help ;)

Here is my first TL ~ Vaati... Sry for this untidy post,but i dont have time now. Bye - Feedback appreciated.

(http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr356/julien_99/Meine%20TexHax/Newest%20Projects/TLTexture.jpg)

Very impressive on the triforce goddesses. My only complaint is nayru, her design...is..much more over the top and over detailed compared to the others. It just ends up looking really messy and unorganized compared to the others simple and clean appearance.

She is over detailed? It's just a pattered pic lol

cool

Finally the 3 goddes !! great work

the triforce goddesses are very nicely done

i like how you did the bodies. very sexy ;]

I WANT THAT VAATI!!!

 :srs: :srs:
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not too shabby

how is gardevoir going? is it made on who?

Nice shadow queen btw

DUE TO SCHOOLING I AM STUCK WITH TEXTUREING

I'm sorreh, but I'm in 12th grade now and here in Germany the school isn't that easy like for you guys (beleive me). So yeah I hope you can forgive me :D Anyways I won't have that much time to creat one texutre during the week, also some weekend, because I have a life and need to meet my friends, too :D
Also in the Fall/Autumn vacation (however you call it), Fall break , I dunno... I might be in London for a week...
Due to some special person <3 Actually maybe  :af2:

Vacation starts here on Oct 12th

So yeah


Yours sincerlly

                                    JuLz

Kyaaah~

Don't worry about it! Texturing is a hobby. Not a job. You have a nice break, kay?

Great news about that special person!  Hope you two have fun!  ^_^

Have a great break!  You really deserve it.  =P

Well Haha post any comments in thi thread about non-released textures here.
Hope you like it or not, or what could be improved.
So feedback is appreciated <3

Agitha peach is genius, I don't know why noone thought of it earlier.

There was already one haha... an beleive me they added her real eyes and they definatly didnt fit on Peach so well yeah i also got Agithas eye frames but i edited them that they let look her sweet and innocent <3

btw where was the old agitha from?
ESH? Any link? i cant remember... Iwanna compare my work with her!

Thnx

And WTF IS THAT craaaaaaap D:
Hooooollllllly sheeeeeeeet she looks really disgustig!
There is no love no detail work, neither any beautiness in her!

Speaking of no detail could you take a look at this Rinoa..
http://stacksmash.cultnet.net/brawlhost/fitartifex/?page_id=548 (roster list, Ctrl+F Rinoa or scroll down for a quick pic)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BCK3BPX6 (for the download)
Maybe you can do better than this =P
Possibly remake this: http://2playerwins.deviantart.com/art/SSBB-Texture-Hack-Zelda-Rinoa-124714243
cuz I have yet to get a reply from this person about getting the texture.

Holy crap, these are good O.O

I don't know what that purple Zelda texture is, but it's awesome! (Shadow Queen?)

Shadow Queen Zelda looks AMAZING!!! I'm really looking forward to putting it in Brawl...

:3

Ugh, thank god the site is back, but it looks like some of your picture links have broken.

Woo forums are back! Hopefully we'll get some long overdue updates today  ;D

SPAM HERE ABOUT MY NON-RELEASED TEXTURES

Love y'all :D

Haha well useable stuff in here.
You might enjoy it. Beleive me ;O

what does the third ref do?

*facepalm*

Example.

DownloadzPic/Copy;PasteIntoTextures"Ref"folder/CreatingTexture/DropingToSDCard/ExamineJewles&ShineEffectsOnATexture!

New stuff added. maybe you like maybe not.

Feedback please :D

Looks like you're going to start trying your hand at stages. Do your best!

posted to let you see my update haha

SPAM now with your opinions :)

Faye Ling looks nice.
liek zomg BEWBZ  :af:

LIIIIIITCHIIIIIIIIIIII!!! <3

Allright Update post^^
Feel free to comment and spam xD

I still don't know how to use the refs! T_T

And I'm liking that Shadow Queen parasol.

Refs are folders in the TGAs ^^
They guve the texture shine effects like in Peachs jewles :D (metallic etc)
You can also edit these that the textures look more awesome

PREVIEW X-Mas Peach

lololol aww X-Mas Peach x3

New Nude Zelda is joining KC:MM soon.
Well yeah, don't think I'm a pervert, but yeah we have already a nude Samus.
Sooo and yeah this will gonna help a lots of people who want to edit their Zeldas with skin parts. You only have to dress up her now ;P

Note: She is pretty detailed :)
Gonna release her when Jack fixes the jewles vertices. Unless the jewles dont vanish for me X_X

And yeah sorry but when you look close enough she is cut in two, well y'know >_>

Hmmm... this will attract many pervs...

._.

Yeah it might, but my actual intention was to give you a texture you only have to dress up.
In case you want to add more skin, cleavage or a viewable stomach, the other texture hackers dont need to add that anymore :) You'll see soon what I mean

JulZ sent me the uncensored version.

 *facepalm*

can you message me the uncensored one? plus, i can't acces your gallery for some reason.

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d117/Darthpenguin_/Tailswut.jpg)

Nude Zelda ^^ I prefer your beautiful dresses than the nature skin XD

Could you send me the uncensored one? I too am having trouble with your texture hack thread. Keeps sending me here: http://www.hosthelpers.com/errors/404.html

I always had a bad feeling nude zelda would come...it would only be good it you removed her armor kinda stuff XD

It looks excellent. The amount of detail and anatomical correctness is astounding! I'm sure plenty of people will find great uses for it!

:EDIT: There is a thread somewhere here with a jewel-less Zelda model within it. I would highly suggest making good use of it.

That's what he's using.

No. I call BS. There ain't any other reason that...a guy would make a texture of a nude chick...other than the desire to get his d*** wet. Idc what you say, you did it cause you wanna bust out the KY Jelly and give yourself one hell of a massage. I don't blame ya though, with the snowstorms and pplz getting stuck at home...bored...and alone...so yeah. Just admit it. We won't think any differently of you, really >_>

Yeah thank you, she is my prework for Ultimecia.^^
When I release her you guy can use her fo your textures, in case your textures contain skin parts.
So you only have to dress up her :)


Soon <:


Thank you. Finally someonne appreciates my detailness :)
And EDIT: Somehow the Jewles still appear for me when I use the hexed .pac...
The REFs are still shown to me :(


I'm gay lol


THE LINK TO THE GALLERY IS FIXED

Ultimecia that will be Awesome! :af2:

Knowing how I am sorta on the pervy, I guess you could say, side I would like to see it XP

Preview Lady GaGa Samus! Enjoy!

Lol Lady Gaga
sexy

Seriously, you did such an awesome work with Lady Gaga... you're awesome, seriously

Haha, I love you for this.

No matter how weird she is Lady Gaga is AMAZING!!!!! (To me at least), and so is this texture.

WTF? gaga oh lala XD

I really hate lady gaga but I have to admit that is good! Do more ZSS's!!! ;)

Oh, that Lady Gaga looks very good.
I will be waiting to see her in action.

Also, did you gave ZSS long hair? D:

I told him I'd make it for him. I did, but the sad part is that the file size isn't the same as the original so it will not work with PAL users since they use 2.1a.

EDIT: Ah, I see JuLz used the file I gave him to add it to ZSS to give her long hair in BrawlBox. Just noticed. ._.

I didn't really read you post correctly.

Wow, I didn't think you would be the one to make a nude Zelda hack.


Is this true?

OH GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO SAMUS?!

OH GOD

no [censored] can u not tell?

anyway kid lady gaga looks good i love the bad romance bideo but i think some shades would look mad good on her =]

I PMed him about that question.

And ZSS body is indexed and it [censored]s up if i try to make a better qualty >_>

Sorry :( But thanks :D

alright well wat about sunglasses?

I'm actually more interested in the fact that someone else is doing long hair for ZSS since BigSharkZ quit his. I hope we get to use that soon. :3

I Love The GaGa XD Can't wait for the release!!!

the hell do u mean? she looks super sexy on bad romance n video phone she was alright

Those are for Peach and Zelda (I think).

Certain characters, items, things, etc have a 64x64 file called a Ref. It controls the shine of a certain object on them, or all of them. Each Ref JuLz has, has a certain shine.

Ya, you're right, I love it that Lady GaGa is now wearing less make-up.
Gurls need to recognize that they also look beautiful with less powder etc.
They dont need to hide behind facade.


Couldn't said it myself any better :D

Whoo Melee Zelda Appears in a better quality.

Alright guys tell me what you think and what could be done better or if it's alright.
Then I can release her ;)

Btw YES I wanted the hair in a natural blond :D

melee zelda looks nice but u need to release lady zamus u fucker

;D

Ya but does she looks good enough?

I dunno I might overwork her a bit :/

Ok guys sorry for being an ass like that I couldnt work on stuff latley, but here are my three latest projects which will be released together in (i hope) few days.

Enjoy!

whos the peach edit? that woman from the Metropolis movie about the Illuminati?

HD Melee Zelda=hot

Oh Julz I smell something inspired by GaGa for the Peach.

Wow this peach looks really amazing! :af2:

@ X_funtaztic_X

Pssh You little Monster ;D

Thanks y'all, too ;D

melee zelda promise high quality as always xp

I cant help it the Lady Zamus And the Peach are so damn sexah XD

The other two look very fine, but I still prefer the Samus Gaga.

Is that Zamus...WITH LONG HAIR!? Not a ponytail?

DO WANT. And only for the hair, lol, :) Hopefully it is long hair and that i'm not just blind.

When JuLz finishes the texture, the long hair will not be released, as I'm currently working on it.

Thank you so much shadow XD I tried making my own long ago :/ I then declared my work an epic failure because she looked like she had hair from the sixties or the Brady Bunch XD

Say Hello to the GAGA PEACH UPDATE!

Looks GREAT, I can't wait for these to be released

Hey, when are you going to release at least pics of your nude zelda?

0_0 I LOVE Lady Gaga! I'm going to her concert in April! :D I hope you make more Lady Gaga textures! The ZSS one looks really good! Can't wait for you to release them :)

Could you please reupload the files for the sheik textures to match the goddesses of hyrule? They werent there when i downloaded it. or are you remaking them? thanks either way

Sorry for beeing busy latley :'(
School takes my whole life atm ...
I have barley time to play, design, hack anything ...
Updating also...
I can fix everything soon.
At the end of March we'll have vacation.
So don't worry!

And yeah I'm going to update my Triforce Goddesses :)

<3

ok, i thought i saw something about that but wasnt sure.

Hey Julz, I was wondering if you were any good at vertex editing? I made the texture for the white Bad Romance suit that she wears at the start for Zero suit Samus, however I can't make the spikes on her head. I tried making it out of her hair but I've only just started. Would you be willing to help? Or can anyone else help?

I have no idea how to do vertex hacking, and I have no time to learn it.
Sorry :/
And don't worry, this is the last week of school.
So I can start again with Brawl Stuff!

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

JULZ!

Need Help! Says in first Post!

BigSharkZ has a Rosalina model without those shoulder puffs, You could try to find a way to have the arms from that vertex edit applied to the vertex edit you used.

...Or you can have LookItsLink edit the vertices for you, Personally I think that would be an easier solution for you.

lol me? What have I done to earn this recommendation?  ;D

Yes I can't release her until i have fixed arms.
Everything is fine. Just need proper shoudlers :)

It'd be great when someone takes this for his/ her business right now!
Thanks :)

Question, is there a point in these nude releases? It's kind of sickening to see these being made unless there's a real purpose behind them. I don't think you're the perverted type but maybe I'm wrong?

Read the post #1 where i posted Nude Zelda DL in my Gallery Topic

Question, Is there a point in complaining about nude releases? It's kind of sickening to see complaints being made about them unless there's real harm being done by them. JuLz has already stated that he's gay and therefore gets no joy out of seeing a naked lady. And If the purpose of him making a nude Zelda was so that people could easily dress her up, Then the purpose behind nude Peach must be the same.

I'm curious of all the nude releases :P

JuLz you can send me what you need edited.

Ima do it tomorrow i go o bed now.

More nude girls LOL. Now I'm begining to question weather your really gay or not LOL. Not that i'm complaining. I kinda knew you would get to this. Good job so far.

Fix here chest...

@ drsusredfish: yes

@ matteron: a few more words'll make your sorrows reachable^^

lol J didn't want peach left out in the cold XD

or was that the true goal of nude peach?

Anyway, don't hesitate to go ham on the texture hacks.

Please! no more Nudes! We want more Twilight princess HR Textures XD

Nice, keep up the good work Julz.

Thanks! And yeah there'll be more TP Textures in the future!

But for now there is a little project I do atm.

Goddesses Reloaded - Here Farore Preview

Farore looks really nice, it's a little hard to tell the thing on her head is a rose with that gem there though

Hmm...Farore could use a touch of work imo. She doesn't look...I dunno, godly enough...maybe some rose tattoos on her arms and ornate fringes on her dress?

Just throwin ideas around. I always stick with the Oracle versions myself...

Hang on, what if you just took some pieces of the Oracle designs and threw them in, but made them better? Y'know, like the petals from Farore's skirt, Nayru's two dresses and belts, and Din's triangles that run down her sides, along with her leg straps?

Still thowin stuff around. Surprised I haven't broken anything :D

Awesome Farore, Looks very sexy.

@ Black Boo: LoL I was making a Tatoo you won't see, because it's on her back but well kinda mindfreak haha. And I won't make them to look too godly, because I want them to be in a human being form :D

New Pic on the Front added!

Din on Fire :)

Wow farore looks EPIC but Din looks too dark... Shes suppose to be a little lighter then it should be perfect! And remember when you make Nayru make her very pale!

If this is just Din and Farore... Oh hell yes.. Nayru.. I'm keeping my computer on and on this page and i'm just gonna sit here refreshing, is that fine? :)

Din isn't that dark, in BrawlBox Zelda's head and body kinda seem darker than the rest.
Look at her arms the whole skin is in the same color. And it was difficult to fix her skin color because when it's to light she is orange :D

 :happy:

The detail you put into her dresses is astounding Julz. Can't wait for a download!

...Then you should probably take pieces from their Oracle forms, as those were the original human incarnations :P

Wow, awesome Din and Farore.
Great work, I hope to see download links soon.

A revamp for the goddes, great! I have the original ones, and  I´m kinda satisfied with them but new hairstyles are perfect :P

@ vcvmajinken

What do you mean with Original ones?  :D They are my first Zelda Textures, but well they weren't in a good resolution to me, because my skills sucked at my first times with PS^^

XD you will to revamp nayru too?

Julz...... :D I luv you for this,that din looks uber smexy XD

Front Page, First Pic :)

im sorry but Ihate Anne Hathaway she is sooo ugly :<

White Queen is (lol=) Zelda and Red Queen is totally gonna be Peach :D

aww i thought it was gonna be the opposite way around

Red queens head is like peaches  round and large

xD yea thats true, peach does have a big head

cough read or die

"No one is allowed to update my work as long as I give you the permisson to do it"

This line is interesting.


Also I don't see the big deal as long as they give you credit, but meh.

There's been some basically re-releasing of textures he's made on vertexes other people made, by people that do essentially nothing but take the texture, take the vertex, combine them and releasing as their own.
As well as releases with very minor edits made (without permission) and getting more downloads than the original. It's happened to a few people already, not just JuLz, and none of us like it.
The person releasing the hack should be the one that put the most work into it.

That's funny that you mention that. I remember "HD" Rosalina had more downloads than the original one and i dont remember LenSho complaining about that.

Marcov15 edit: If the word is censored, it's for a reason. Don't try to avoid it, or else.

By that logic, Nintendo should be re-releasing Super Smash Bros. Brawl with our hacks since they put more work into actually making the game, Than we did simply editing parts of It. Seriously, How many times does this need to be explained? If you're going to be that literal about It, ALL hackers are thieves, Including you. Because we’re all taking models and textures made by the creators of the game and re-releasing them without the permission of the creators.

Hacking is a hobby, And as such hacks are made and used for the purpose of having fun. Hacks are not works of art. They're not made simply just to look at them, Or to decorate your house. They are made, And used, To have fun with while playing the game. If someone decides to edit the another persons hack to match their own personal preference then that's fine. And If that person decides to be a nice person and release It to the public so other people can use too, Then that's fine too. Just as long as their is credit given for the original work. Which is actually hypocritical since nobody ever gives credit to the original creators of the game.

Let's think about this, We have taken, And used as a base, Just about every single file on the Brawl disc. And yet, The only thing we ever credit Sakurai for is tripping. If what you say is true, Then no one would ever be able to create a hack for this game since none of us have permission from the original creators to do so. A hack would need to be a completely original model, With It's own textures, Moveset, And animations. And even then, We are still modifying a game without permission from the original creators to do so.

Now picture this, A hack user requests an edit of Hacker B’s work. Hacker A agrees to make It and asks Hack B for permission. Hacker B says no which leaves Hacker A to tell the hack requester “Sorry, I can’t make It because he says I can’t”. In this situation who loses out? The user. Removing a hack does not benefit the original creator in any way, And It only deprives the user of happiness. Is It really worth It to deprive users of happiness just because of something like "Permission"? If this was credit we were talking about, I would completely agree that credit should be given where It's due. As long as proper credit is given, There shouldn't be a problem.

I've seen hacks I've made edited, And I don't say a word. I'm just happy that people even use It. Can’t you just take the satisfaction of knowing you've made people happy and let it be enough rather than having to let everyone know you made It possible first? The fact that people make edits to your hack means that It's good. If It wasn't good, Then they wouldn't even use It let alone want to change It, And It would be ignored. Most people don't edit hacks to screw the original creator over. It's ether "I want to change It to my liking", "I want to make a package for people who want to use this on every slot", Or "I want to improve It".

One last thing: There is no such thing as “Baseless” in this community. We use work from Nintendo (including other Wii games) as a base no matter what because we can't make a completely new file. With Brawlbox It's possible, But nobody does that regardless, And we still need a MDL0 file. And I doubt anyone would ever ask Nintendo for permission. The only hacks we don't need bases for are BRSTMs and THPs, Because we can create them without one. However, We always use a song or movie that we didn’t create ourselves. And a texture hack (Or vertex hack) no matter what will use a Nintendo made MDL0 file. So even If everything is edited, Effort would still have been put in by Nintendo. I don't think I need to say anymore, I believe I've made my point.

There you are JuLz.  :P

You do realize Julz and LenSho are both on the KC:MM team, right?

By the way, nice way to avoid the censure system. Don't do it again. EVER.

Stop trying to push things that far so that they fit your needs. While that example is true, no one could care less about it.

What happens if a company steals a product from another company? Do you seriously think that the other company won't sue them? The same applies here. Would you feel alright if someone re-released one of your textures and had twice the number of downloads YOUR texture had? Would you be able to accept that the texture YOU put work and effort in was just slightly edited and now someone is more popular than you because of YOUR hard work? I wouldn't. And if you are ok with it, I can assure you that most people in this community aren't.

Maybe you see it as a hobby, but there are a lot of people here in this community. There are people who take this very seriously and make textures for people to enjoy, but they make them to enjoy their selves too. Plagiarism is something that doesn't let them do that. It prevents the joy of being proud of your job from occurring, and causes a lot of sadness and rage.

I'm fine with people wanting to change some textures to match their personal preference, but if they want to release it, they should talk with the one that made the texture first. It's just fair.

Once again, nobody could care less about this. Since this is pretty much the same talk as the first paragraph, I'll be moving on.

"Hacker B" has all the right to stop HIS texture from being released to the public. It's his texture, after all. Nothing is stopping "Hacker A" from making his own version for personal use, or to distribute it in a PM (to a single person, not more).

Well, as I've said before, maybe you don't really care about it, but other people do. Want to improve it? Ask for permission. Want to change it to your liking? Ask for permission. Want to make a package for people that want to use this on every slot? Ask for permission. Of course, you always have the option to do it without permission, but only for your personal use.

Once again. Nobody could care less about it. Do you realize you said this in three of your paragraphs? There's no need to be so repetitive, we get your idea.

I took the time to write this so that maybe you can consider the existence of someone else that's not you. That whole post was "I don't care", "I wouldn't", "I'm fine with it", "I can", and so on. Have you ever considered someone else's opinion? I guess not.

 

All I got from PAVGN was "blah blah I don't know what Counterstrike is."

Seriously, look it up, then come back and tell me how bad it is that we're using Nintendo's stuff as a base so I can laugh at you more than I already am.

Releasing minor edits of other people's work is plagiarism. No one gives a [censored] what you, personally, are OK with. It doesn't matter what you're OK with. You have no authority, and you have no right to say what other people should accept when it comes to having their work stolen.

It is thievery. Take the Athena Asamiya PSA+texture that was released not long ago. Sure, it uses Peach as a base, but Athena and Peach are so far removed from each other -- the creator (can't remember who) put so much work into making his unique creation -- that accusing the creator of stealing Peach is like accusing a fantasy writer of stealing elves from Tolkien. Tolkien laid the groundwork, built the foundation, and everyone else builds from it. But if someone took that fantasy writer's work, changed a few names and slightly rewrote the ending, that would be plagiarism. And that's what you and so many other people have done.

Brawl is our foundation. Without it, none of this would exist. Saying "lolhypocrisy" doesn't work when "stealing" from Nintendo is a necessity of our existence. There's a lot more need for us to "steal" from Nintendo than there is for you to steal that Athena and release a no-panties 5-minute edit.

Making it is fine. You can do whatever you want with the hacks you download, just like you can do whatever you want with Brawl, the game you bought. But re-releasing minor edits of other people's work is plagiarism and will not be permitted here in the near future.

...You know, this isn't my business at all, and I don't even have an opinion whatsoever about all fo this...But since you made me laugh more than you're laughing at PAVGN, I have to say this.

Exactly what is it in your mind that gives you the idea that you can actually stop people from re-releasing it? Since you, while an Admin, don't have much true "authority" yourself? And I don't mean just here, but if people were to re-release them in other places? XD

It's not like it's so serious that you can legally do anything about it. ¦D

This is an actual question for once by the way. Not trying at all to be a smartass about it. (Even if I might still be being one.)

Or should I be under the assumption that you somehow miraculously have no problem with it if it's re-released somewhere else? Because that would be rather hypocritical. o_o

I agree with that completely...

I remember when I first released the Captain Falco texture, I think that it hadn't even passed a week when Wave ported Falco's model with my texture over Captain Falcon.
I posted in his thread saying it would have been nice if he noticed me before what he wanted to make, etc. but I was ok with what he made since it was a good idea and he gave me credit for the texture.

The thing is, people usually take what took you several hours to accomplish, just edit it a little, and upload it as if they had actually made an important change, or many times claim it as their own work.
If you have good luck they credit "they guy who made the original", if you have better luck they credit you, if you are incredibly lucky they even tell you what they made... if lady luck loves you, they ask for permission (this has never happened to me, yet people take parts or the whole work, edit it and post as something new and own).

Yes, we are "hackers"... Yes, we are modding a game without permission of the creators...
But even among hackers there most be rules and some sort of courtesy.

For example, there's some guy I don't even know, he took the Mario Mafio texture and vertex I made, put some very simple kind of shades and a scar and uploaded it.
A 5 min. or less work... at least he's giving credit... but if he didn't notify me, didn't give credit, uploaded it and it somehow got more downloads and recognition than my original version, I would be really frustrated since it is all the work I made with minor edits and he just stole it to get recognition.

This kind of "robbery" between "hackers" can't really be compared to "hackers" and the creators of the game.
The creators of the game will always be recognized worldwide as the ones who made the entire game, "hackers" at most can be recognized as modding  talented guys... a brawl hacker will never be more recognized or have more credit than the company and creators of the game.
In simple terms... Smash will always be seen as a Nintendo game, never as a KC:MM game. Textures and edited models on the other hand can easily have their credit stolen.

It depends on each person, there's people who don't mind as long as they are credited... there are people who get mad if you use what they made... that's why it is good to ask for permission first.

One company stealing from another is a terrible analogy to people making unauthorized changes to a company's product. Because a company stealing from another company involves copyright, Money, Laws, Etc. While people hacking a game doesn't involve any of that whatsoever.


I'm sorry, But If someone takes their hobby seriously, It's because probably It's all they got in their lives. And when that’s all they have in their life, It really gets under their skin. I actually do think It's possible for texture hacking to be considered an interesting art, Kind of like how graffiti can be art. But believe me It will never make any of us rich, Let alone pay the bills around the house. And If you do take what you've learned from being a hacker to become a game designer/texture artist. What are you going to do If some people find a way to hack the game and change the textures that you made? Sue the hackers and shut them down?


Except that once the hack is in the hands of the hack user, They can choose to make It public anyway. And If they really want to be malicious about It, They can choose to NOT credit the original creator, OR the person who edited It.


Sorry, But when you put something on the internet It's open to modification by anyone. As I said before hacking is a hobby, Furthermore It is a hobby in which people can do whatever they want with It. As long as proper credit is given where It's due there shouldn't be a problem. And as long as proper credit is given It can't be called "Stealing". Stealing is uploading someone else's work without any mention of or credit given to the person who actually made It. If a hacker edits another persons hack and gives the original hacker credit (Saying I did this, And this person did that), Then It's not, And It can't be called, Stealing. And "Steal" isn't the right word to use anyway, Since this is a hacking community and not a serious business. There's no money or profit involved in anything that we do. And I actually think It's worse for two hackers to make the same thing, And the worse hack gets more downloads than the better hack. Because regardless of what edits are made to It, It's still your work that they're downloading regardless. And I think It's more understandable to be upset over someone making their own version of a hack you made, And It gets more downloads/recognition than your when theirs is not as good as yours.


Don't you mean "Couldn't care less"? "Could care less" means It's possible to care less. When you don't care about something at all, It's impossible to care less. Hence the phrase "Couldn't care less". But that's beside the point...



Well "Plagiarism" isn't the right word to use ether because again, We're not dealing with copyright, Money, Etc. If I write an article and in the article I include an excerpt from a George Carlin book, But I don't quote the book or cite the source, That's plagiarism. But If my article contains the excerpt with It completely quoted, As well as the original author and the book It came from cited, It's not plagiarism. Editing a video game hack isn't the same thing as copyright infringement. I can see someone arguing that they are the same or similar. But really It's not the same thing. Also...


What he said. You people may have control over what is and isn't allowed in the Brawlvault, But you can't have complete control over the community as a whole. You can remove a hack from the Brawlvault but It'll still be available on the file sharing site It's hosted on, And the people who made the edits will just find another place to put those download links. Nobody's ever going to be able to completely stop others from releasing edits, There will always be another place the host the hacks. What It all comes down to is this:


That, And that we're all (Okay maybe not all) here to have fun and enjoy ourselves. And I believe we shouldn't let a little thing like "Permission" get in the way of that. But as Vyse said, Nobody gives a [censored] about what I'm personally ok with.

While I don't have a strong argument in  one way or another, all I have to say is  that if you ask permission, they will most likely say "yes". It doesn't take that long, and prevents any nasty confrontations.

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@ItallianStallion

LenSh and I work together and I had that Rosalina HD Texture weeks before he made his own, after he released his version I ASKED for permission to update mine with his vertex!

And with that credit thing, wow I will tell you that we'll have like 20 different Rosalina's available to download just in different colores or shorter dresses, because people will take it as "base" -> YAY Made a new Texture!!! :D

Man, Wave, I've always thought you were annoying, but I've never thought you were illiterate until now.

"and it will not be permitted here in the near future."

See if you can spot the key word.

Also, PAVGN: you're bad at arguing semantics. Don't try it. What you're doing is plagiarism. You're not including an "excerpt" of someone else's work; you're using all of it save for tiny edits.


"Nobody couldn't care less" would be a double negative. If you're going to lecture someone on grammar, make sure you understand it first.

I've had it with you, PAVGN. I wrote that last post in hopes that maybe you could understand this the good way, but it seems you're a lost case. I'll have to be a little more aggressive now.

I don't care what you think, believe or like. If you want to stay in this community, you'll abide by OUR rules and what WE believe is right for the majority. Don't like it? Get your ass out of here. Nobody is forcing you to be here. You're ok with it? Fine. Stay here and enjoy the ride.

I hope I made myself clear enough. And by the way, try to go get some grammar lessons.

To make everything a litle more simple, and stop the drama arguing :

These rules are what have been decided by the team managing this website, and will be officially revealed when we get the chance. Because these are the principles that we find the most positive for this community. So we'll apply this to this place.

If you feel like uploading slight edits without permission elsewhere on the net, them by all means do it. But don't be surprised if other hackers who consider these ideas as elementary politeness start disliking you.

I sometimes visit a board about self-hypnosis. On this board, you can't give links to self-hypnosis files to users if they don't have got a little experience of what to do, and what not to do. (Because you can pretty much completely warp your mind with that, if you aren't careful.)
If you infringe this rule on the website, you'll get sanctionned. Even if you think that there is no risk.
If you post these on your own personnal blog, they won't be able to say anything. You'll be just considered completely irresponsible.

This is kinda the same situation here. >_>
Whether or not you like it, this is how we are going to work. For the sole reason that quite a good bunch of people think the same as us.

Well, yeah I wonder why you re-released a complete packet of Rosalina edits although they've been already available in seperate downloads. That was unneccessary :3

Thanks for giving a nice, polite and detailed answer Miacis. :3

Not to mention an actual answer at that. XD

Now that my questions are gone, I no longer have any interest here. Hopefully that's all for the drama. ¦D

~ I'm sorry


Ok I'm going to start off with PAVGN I agree with you 100% and everyone else I can see your side on this. Also I want to point out this is a texture category and it's getting hectic like my texture topic. We should start posting elsewhere. My opinion this discussion is very very dumb and Julz I can see how your angry but there is a way you should think about it. People who make textures out of Rosalina HD are praising you a you made one of the best textures on brawlvault. When people are making retextures they should give you credit and if they don't they report it. Like me I made a pack about your amazing texture, I gave you and LenSho so much credit in the readme and the file descripion, I wrote in the readme I don't deserve any credit the true makers of this are Julz and Lensho as I hope the people who downloaded my pack have read. Also most people don't make textures on this site and put them on other sites so if it stays on this site then I bet they know who really made the model, you. I think everyone knows who you are and Im being serious, so they are not taking your "fame" away. Everyone knows who made the ultimate rosalina model/texture. Think about what I am about to say... Remember when this site was just one happy family when it was developing? That's what it is right now and I don't think you know that. People who took your model respect you and are making something out of what you have done. The only plagiarism I think deserves to be capable to ban for is when you copy a exact texture and repost it without ANY updates, then that is copying. But if someone makes a tweak then enjoy it as they may have made it better and hopefully they gave you credit and if they didn't then simply report. If I made a amazing amazing (or an example;) master chief model and texture and then someone tweak it so it is more detailed and he gave you credit then you grab it you tweak it then upload it and give him credit for what he did, no one will think he did the first model and texture and you did the details. Then someone else tweaks it and someone else and someone else then for the final one when it's finished grab it upload it and give everyone credit. That's what I remember kitty corp as and brawlvault and smashboards and well EVERYTHING brawl related. Also I think anyone on any brawl hacking website is trying to achieve one goal, making the perfect hacked brawl. Having fun with your friends playing with master chief vs rosalina vs sora vs zero. That is an example of how we want to change brawl, how everyone has Changed brawl hacking. We are just a group of thousands of people doing one simple thing, hack brawl. I you ever have a problem with someone retextures about your texture then just message then politely and ask to delete if they don't contact and admin.

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 MyKewl

Can people drop this here because this is pretty self-explanatory.


Either respect him and ask or don't respect him and upload against his wishes.

It's not the fact they the Rosalina textures were edited and released, it's that they were edited and released without asking him or even having knowledge of it. JuLz is typically a nice guy and I'm sure he would let people submit if they just ask. I don't think anybody wants their work to be edited without any knowledge whatsoever of it.

Again, all that's being requested is that you ask the person first. If you truly respect the person's work, that's the least you could for them.

Yea all they gotta do is ask and he will give you instructions on how you can release soo

! First Page, First Post!

Don't say you're dying... people are actually going to think that you're literally dying >.>

Good luck on your future journeys JuLz.
You will surely be missed.
*watches you ride off into the sunset* 8)

Yeah really, some people are... Well... They can take things to literal...

You will be missed... Good luck with... Whatever it is you're gonna do. :)

I really thought Julz was dying. <_<;

Good luck Julz!

we'll really miss you julz, see ya around.

NO JULZ you where one of the few that i liked.You where also the first i meet.
Well bye...and plz dont dye now.You have to live!

That was beautiful
Ima miss chew >.<

WHAT!?!?? This is absurd!!! You were awesome. Well I respect you for your decision, fairwell DX ;(

I'm sorry guys. I have to concentrate everything now for my apprenticship.
But I'll keep my account so you can download everything.. álso in the future.

Well at least you'll always be with us, not just in our hearts but also on this site XD. You should re-lease the Gaga bad romance texture... umm that you never released.

Sorry I don't have it no more also the same with my Melee Zelda in my signature.
I'm sorry, but I deleted everything, texture-hacking related to make it easier to cut the rope :(
I had to decide quickly...

Alright... Love ya <3