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Title: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on September 29, 2010, 01:26:12 PM Errr.....clone engin
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/strongbad338dude There is it.....it works :/ http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Clone_Engine Da codes(for brave basterds that wanna do it lol) Code: Usage Storage Engine (Dont Wreck My Music) [Dantarion] http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Clone_Engine_Example_Codes http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Charcter_Modules Lol i kid about the codes,DONT try them urself,i kid. *waits for noob to test it* Gasp... Wheeze... I barely made it out alive! But I got it... I got it. Behold! The very first Generic module! [>>>>>Here<<<<<] ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/?ztfthtug6o0obcb[/url]) This module will allow you to clone Ike over any character in the roster and - when I finish the actual Engine part of the Clone Engine - clone him into any empty space in the roster. In order to clone a character you need to put all of their resources (moveset, models, motion and final smash) into the target character's folder named according to the target character's name. Then adjust the generic module to match the character (Read the Change.txt) and rename it to the target character's module name. If you want to go the extra mile and add sound whenever the host character isn't present, then you can adjust the sound banks to your liking with the following code: Code: Sound Bank Modifier:[Phantom Wings] And finally, for your convenience and to prove that it works properly, here's a fully equipped clone of [>>>>>Download<<<<<] ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/?c3kt44366mnaamm[/url]) Some things to note: -As noted above, unless you use the Sound Bank modifier, the clone will not have any unique sounds or voice if the host character is not in the match. -If both the clone and the original are in the match, only one set of Graphic effects will be used. This is because the graphics are being loaded into a single set of ids that both movesets are calling whenever they create graphic effects. (To fix this, we'd need to further analyze the graphic effect files) -The .Pac file which is usually considered optional when reskinning an existing character is required if you want to use training or SSE with the clone. -Replacing the target character's Entry file is optional, but if you don't replace it then the original's entry Articles will still appear. -All the Cloud outfits in the example file are the same... . Before I go, please no requests for modules. I haven't mastered the art patching them yet so I need a little more time before I can mass produce them. I got it working. For those who are still having problems: 4A000000 80AD89E0 1400ZZZZ 000000YY E0000000 80008000 (YY will be 20 since we are using ike.) Replace ZZZZ with below Code: 0000 Mario Attention everyone: If you are planning on trying to replace him over a multi-jumper, you must change the IC constants as well or you will get a freeze when jumping. Code: XX has YY's IC-Constant [Dantarion] Code: IDs DO NOT MIX THIS WITH ROB FOR NOW. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Link40 on September 29, 2010, 02:06:45 PM Dantarion is GOD.
But sadly I don't know how to make it work... I'll better wait that someone makes a tutorial for it... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 02:28:06 PM So what I hear of people is that they, after applying the codes, still don't get an extra Marth slot?
If so, I might know what the problem could be... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on September 29, 2010, 02:37:43 PM So what I hear of people is that they, after applying the codes, still don't get an extra Marth slot? YOU!!!!!!!!!!!If so, I might know what the problem could be... *grabs* So i heard from a mudkipz that you got it to run :>.>: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 02:41:41 PM It needs a slight modification of the Custom CSS code, to add the slot.
And within a few moments I will try to explain how (I need to look around a bit). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on September 29, 2010, 02:43:50 PM It needs a slight modification of the Custom CSS code, to add the slot. Yeah i heard about that.And within a few moments I will try to explain how (I need to look around a bit). Well if you could help make a small tut that would be great :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 02:58:34 PM If you can supply me your Custom CSS code from your codelist text file, I can show you how to edit it.
It's rather easy, but I suspect that some people have Alloys while others not. EDIT: Well, just try this code instead of your current CSS code: Custom CSS v3 [spunit262] 0668310C 00000030 387E006C 3B600000 3C808068 38840DE0 7CBB20AE 7CA50775 41800014 94A30004 3B7B0001 2C1B0032 4180FFE8 48000038 04690338 48000068 066900D8 00000008 2C170028 41820168 02680DE0 0022FFFF 06680DE0 0000002B 00090D0C 0515011A 0A071325 1002240E 0F140616 1F172903 040B1908 23201B5D 5E5C1121 18221226 27285100 00000000 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Link40 on September 29, 2010, 03:50:06 PM DS22, I have another question. I read that you to replace in one of the codes a sort of "MarioD" ID or something. What do we have to replace exactly ?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 03:58:19 PM ???
All you have to do is apply the codes from Dantarion's wiki page and the CSS code I put up. With all those codes, it should work. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Link40 on September 29, 2010, 03:59:31 PM Oh, ok thanks, because I read somewhere that you had to replace something in the code data...
I'll try this out when I'll have made a backup of my Brawl save. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on September 29, 2010, 04:12:48 PM You sure there isn't anything else, like a .rel file or something??
Or what to name the game files??? Is it FitRoy.pac or something??? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 05:07:46 PM The ft_roy.rel goes into the module folder, while the PSA goes into the roy folder in the fighter folder (yes, it's FitRoy.pac and etc).
And I don't know if the ft_roy.rel was released in public... But wait till this gets further developed and more stable. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on September 29, 2010, 05:21:40 PM Did you have a ft_roy.rel when you got it working???
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 29, 2010, 05:25:18 PM Did you have a ft_roy.rel when you got it working??? Yes I have.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on September 29, 2010, 05:28:45 PM You copied-pasta'd Marth's rel?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on September 30, 2010, 05:29:20 AM Dantarion gave me the ft_roy.rel.
And sorry guys, you'll have to wait a little longer (until the codes are more stable). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on September 30, 2010, 07:11:59 AM Oh. OK.
Until then, ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZzzzzzzz. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on September 30, 2010, 03:43:19 PM i CANT tRY IT DUE TO ME (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)ING MY sd CARD LOCK T-Y
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on October 01, 2010, 05:47:15 AM If it's locked or something, you can flip the switch on it to turn off the write protection.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DrKoala on October 01, 2010, 08:46:23 AM Wohoo. So I can finally watch people have their fun with extra character slots while I myself won't be able to use this because I don't want to download a NTSC-Brawl IsO just for this? Sounds fan-tucking-fastic.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: New Age Retro Hacker on October 01, 2010, 09:15:28 AM @Calamitas
I know, we'll have to wait like 6 months to use it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on October 01, 2010, 10:20:36 AM If it's locked or something, you can flip the switch on it to turn off the write protection. ITS (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)SSTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!! I put tape but the hacks would cancel out when i choose a stage. If i do it really slow,the song would die and go back to the original song that was replaced and bam :( Wohoo. So I can finally watch people have their fun with extra character slots while I myself won't be able to use this because I don't want to download a NTSC-Brawl IsO just for this? Sounds fan-tucking-fastic. I loled XD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on October 03, 2010, 07:11:22 PM P:M is working on Clone Engine with dant, so you can assume that a clone engine will be out before PM is released.
So you can wait until FOREVER Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Epic on October 11, 2010, 08:55:37 PM So, when the clone engine is done fully, everyone will be able to make their own characters?
This Clone Engine sounds really cool. :P Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on October 11, 2010, 09:30:38 PM So, when the clone engine is done fully, everyone will be able to make their own characters? We where already doing that >_>' but this time instead of replace,we add.We well also need a code and rel forthe character we want to clone.This Clone Engine sounds really cool. :P But...i want to know...can i clone a character 2 times? Like I want Meta Knight and Ichigo & Grey Fox. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 12, 2010, 06:10:10 AM I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to have a character cloned 2 times.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Epic on October 12, 2010, 08:04:28 AM So, when the clone engine is done fully, everyone will be able to make their own characters? We where already doing that >_>' but this time instead of replace,we add.We well also need a code and rel forthe character we want to clone.This Clone Engine sounds really cool. :P Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 12, 2010, 08:33:08 AM As for now, no code for Ness has been released.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on October 14, 2010, 10:25:17 AM here're my questions about this:
is it possible to find the roy.rel file sumwhere??? and if so, how many costumes does he has, and what happens if u dont cover them all? will it just crash or will it use marth's textures? does the css need the css fix code? AND, if this friggin long code is just for 1 new character, wouldnt it be impossible to cover all melee characters? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: renkaken on October 14, 2010, 05:26:17 PM here're my questions about this: they havent released the relis it possible to find the roy.rel file sumwhere??? and if so, how many costumes does he has, and what happens if u dont cover them all? will it just crash or will it use marth's textures? does the css need the css fix code? AND, if this friggin long code is just for 1 new character, wouldnt it be impossible to cover all melee characters? and for the code there are 7 empty slots which mean all of the meele leftovers can come back Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on October 14, 2010, 11:14:46 PM so u would just need these codes, or others to make the six other slots to work, and also, i dont get all this melee NEED, cuz when it was melee everyone complained about there only being clones, and now they're gone, u want them back?
i understand mewtwo cuz he was awesome, and roy was cool too, but pichu? or DR. M? and i only remember 5 who arent here... which would be: Ylink, DR M, pichu, mewtwo and roy... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on October 16, 2010, 01:51:09 PM i understand mewtwo cuz he was awesome, and roy was cool too, but pichu? or DR. M? Hey go eff yourself >: I love melee,it made my childhood and i loved the 5 chars that where removed.I made all 5 of them but when brawl came out they removed them :( You well need the codes and a rel file so it can work it(Your CSS well have a extra Marth slot which is Roy).Take some Marth stuff and rename it Roy and throw it in the Roy folder and thats it. But dont try it since there is no Roy.rel file :P Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on October 16, 2010, 02:22:00 PM just tell me 1 good thing about pichu...
and yeah the game was awesome, but they were just clones... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 16, 2010, 07:56:35 PM Pichu was a troll character.
That is what made him awesome. Also, Dantarion is fond of Pichu as well. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Syakun on October 19, 2010, 06:54:01 PM ok, so i got the second marth slot working. but how do i convert it to Roy? when i made a Roy file in the fighter folder on my SD card, and i tried to load a party match, my wii froze.
and about the fit_roy.rel file, does it generate it on its own? or is that something extra im supposed to get some how? any help? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 19, 2010, 07:05:30 PM You need to patch a ft_marth.rel to work over Roy.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: songeflemy on October 19, 2010, 07:17:26 PM just tell me 1 good thing about pichu... He's cute, that's enough said. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on October 19, 2010, 11:11:30 PM but useless...
but back on-topic, does anyone know when this is gonna be released? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Link40 on October 20, 2010, 12:45:16 AM I think it will not be released as soon as expected. Maybe it will released along with P:M, so wait until mid 2011 - 2012 :af:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on October 20, 2010, 02:28:41 AM but on 2012 the end will say KABOOOOM!!!!
or didnt u see that movie? (2012) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 20, 2010, 04:07:57 AM Bug Dantarion to make progress on it (not going to help much though).
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Link40 on October 20, 2010, 05:48:35 AM Bug Dantarion to make progress on it (not going to help much though). I'm patient enough for the clone engine, but what I really want to get released is P:M.It would be really nice from the PMBR to release the Alpha. Seriously it's like they upload many vids just to make us envious... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on October 20, 2010, 06:18:02 AM Well, it's still in development, so don't expect it soon.
And we from the PMBR aren't nice. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Syakun on November 05, 2010, 01:49:56 AM ok... so second marth slot is gone, and i cant get it back at all. when i mess around with what codes i have selected, sometimes ill end up with 5 random icons, and if my selecter goes over one, the wii freezes. ive tried using the CSS code that is in the original codes list you posted at the beginning of this, as well as the edited one. sometimes it freezes upon entering party match, sometimes it doesnt.
i was wondering if you could help me as far as what i need to do to get second marth slot to show up again >.< thanks, and sorry for spamming for help lol Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on November 05, 2010, 05:03:05 AM ok... so second marth slot is gone, and i cant get it back at all. when i mess around with what codes i have selected, sometimes ill end up with 5 random icons, and if my selecter goes over one, the wii freezes. ive tried using the CSS code that is in the original codes list you posted at the beginning of this, as well as the edited one. sometimes it freezes upon entering party match, sometimes it doesnt. Um....those codes where up there for the lulz,you cant use them if you dont have the Roy.rel file :srs: <---[censored]i was wondering if you could help me as far as what i need to do to get second marth slot to show up again >.< thanks, and sorry for spamming for help lol So yeah...theres no point,and no we dont have the Roy.rel either. @Melee battle: Pichu is adowable,niff said. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Allbait on November 05, 2010, 11:10:11 AM So... Soon the new roster will be:
All B+ characters, Roy, Mewtwo, Dr Mario, Rosalina, Cloud, Pichu, Dark Link, Young link, shadow and possibly toon ganon? Ahem... Silver, Tails, knuckles, toon zelda, young zelda, Dr luigi, nurse peach, daisy, dry bones, birdo, bowser jr, toad, the other knights from kirby games, dixie kong, funky kong, croc, 02, Super sonic, hyper sonic, unleashed sonic, soren... I feel like I'm missing a lot of options... Sephiroth, blood falcon, nayru, farore, din, black bull, dark samus, mew, blaziken, gardevoir, hoppip, dusknoir (or how the PBR announcer says DUSK-NO-AR!!!), Naruto, fighter kirby, super dimentio, viewtiful joe, zero, omega, mega man, bomberman, metal sonic, krystal, other star fox characters i can't remember the names of... I wonder if all of these would fit, each with a new moveset... Darth Vader, Yoda, gokario... Imma stop :P Lol the only ones I actually want extra were the ones before the Lolcat XD Clone engine FTW :3 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 05, 2010, 11:20:01 AM Consider that the limit will be 7 characters.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Allbait on November 05, 2010, 12:05:13 PM Consider that the limit will be 7 characters. 7! o_O I would have guessed 2 or 4 O_o Awesome work! :af: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 05, 2010, 01:34:08 PM 7 is the Highest limit in theory.
Right now, only 1 works and Dant has a rather rough time getting more to work (a glitch that is article related). EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on November 05, 2010, 02:43:58 PM Expect most of the slots to be filled by the Melee clones though, because that's the primary objective of clone engines in the first place.
Yeah, you can ADD new characters, but where's the serious in that? :af: But seriously, this is an awesome breakthrough. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on November 05, 2010, 06:03:34 PM I expected it to be 5.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on November 05, 2010, 06:53:33 PM Expect most of the slots to be filled by the Melee clones though, because that's the primary objective of clone engines in the first place. doesn't mean you can only use melee characters for this thoughTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 24, 2010, 05:06:06 PM Well, it's still in development, so don't expect it soon. Still in development as an excuse? I call BS...If you guys can play on wi-fi already, why the hell wouldnt it be released? It's like the pmbr just wants to piss people off!And we from the PMBR aren't nice. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 25, 2010, 06:13:07 AM Well, it's still in development, so don't expect it soon. Still in development as an excuse? I call BS...If you guys can play on wi-fi already, why the hell wouldnt it be released? It's like the pmbr just wants to piss people off!And we from the PMBR aren't nice. It would also damage the credibility of Project M. Just wait for the release, like with MvC3. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on November 25, 2010, 04:22:19 PM It would also damage the credibility of Project M. Damage...the credibility? Credibility: "capable of being believed; believable" ...WTF? Im starting to think the only reason it isnt released is because the PMBR loves to piss people off. Same thing with the clone engine: if it works, with few bugs: why the hell not release an a beta? Sometimes online communities piss me off... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 25, 2010, 04:51:43 PM Project M still isn't in a stage for a demo/beta, so deal with it instead of accusing people of pissing you of.
If you want to nag about it, then I suggest you go to the Project M thread at SWF and see how well that will end up. Also, the Clone Engine is far from finished, so deal with that as well. Getting back on-topic... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on November 26, 2010, 03:40:28 PM It would also damage the credibility of Project M. Damage...the credibility?Credibility: "capable of being believed; believable" ...WTF? Im starting to think the only reason it isnt released is because the PMBR loves to piss people off. Same thing with the clone engine: if it works, with few bugs: why the hell not release an a beta? Sometimes online communities piss me off... i couldnt stop mysef from saying this: - WHO THE F*CK U THINK U ARE?? u cant come here and say it pisses u off that ppl dont release unfinished work... do it urself if ur not happy with the progress... on-topic: ds22 do u know when dantarion's back again? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on November 26, 2010, 03:50:33 PM It would also damage the credibility of Project M. Damage...the credibility?Credibility: "capable of being believed; believable" ...WTF? Im starting to think the only reason it isnt released is because the PMBR loves to piss people off. Same thing with the clone engine: if it works, with few bugs: why the hell not release an a beta? Sometimes online communities piss me off... i couldnt stop mysef from saying this: - WHO THE F*CK U THINK U ARE?? u cant come here and say it pisses u off that ppl dont release unfinished work... do it urself if ur not happy with the progress... on-topic: ds22 do u know when dantarion's back again? Dantarion will be back in December. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on November 26, 2010, 04:36:18 PM ...
patience my friend, and u'll someday grow older... than u might fin out what respect is... and my argument is u said u were pissed off cuz he was being slow... ur argument is i dont do anything either, but at least i can wait for it... edit: ur not even a hacker are u...? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 26, 2010, 04:44:13 PM ... Quoting for support.patience my friend, and u'll someday grow older... than u might fin out what respect is... and my argument is u said u were pissed off cuz he was being slow... ur argument is i dont do anything either, but at least i can wait for it... edit: ur not even a hacker are u...? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on November 26, 2010, 05:37:26 PM Patience children. Good things take time. I know Dantarion knows what he's doing. I rather wait for something good than him rushing to release this and have some buggy [censored] Clone Engine, know what I mean.
Also what DMN said, hopefully cloning twice will be possible. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 26, 2010, 05:50:05 PM If you watched my vid, then you probably would've noticed that at the end it froze the game.
So it didn't work out that well, now did it? Also, patience is a good cause. Because it doesn't matter how long or how hard you complain and whine about it, because no one cares about your opinion about when it should be released. You prolonging this will not and never will achieve ANYTHING. If you really want it that bad right now, then do it yourself. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on November 26, 2010, 05:52:27 PM Mind linking me to this video?
EDIT: Nevermind, I found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 26, 2010, 06:04:28 PM See how clones with articles only work when the original is in the field as well?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on November 26, 2010, 06:04:57 PM What Mewtwo PSA is that? Looks mad accurate.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on November 26, 2010, 06:06:39 PM What Mewtwo PSA is that? Looks mad accurate. That's actually a Lucario PSA with the latest Mewtwo animations.Also, notice no external graphics on Mewtwo? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on November 26, 2010, 09:50:12 PM SSJCerious umad? just chill out and wait patiently like everyone else. If they haven't released it, they have a reason, and I'm pretty sure people crying butthurt over it isn't going to speed anything up. and "Your wasting my time" xD
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: msp26 on November 27, 2010, 11:03:04 AM SSJCerious umad? just chill out and wait patiently like everyone else. If they haven't released it, they have a reason, and I'm pretty sure people crying butthurt over it isn't going to speed anything up. and "Your wasting my time" xD ... *facepalm*Quit complaining Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on November 27, 2010, 11:23:31 AM Lol, people, learn to quote, page 4 is just effed up.
Clone Engine will be released eventually, and when it is, EVERYONE who posted in this Thread will use it, complaining/arguing about it won't change its release time, it's Dantarion the one working on it, if he doesn't wants to make the .rel public, it's his desicion, same goes about project M. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on November 27, 2010, 11:33:35 AM (http://www.debate.org/photos/albums/1/1/680/8534-680-4pdd5-a.jpg)
Check em. <3 Doubles Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on November 27, 2010, 12:10:33 PM What happens with quotes is that when you click it you have to make sure you'll be typing below where it says [/quote], sometimes it bugs and you start typing here:
Quote Quote's text here (You end up typing here ignoring the [./quote] below Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on November 27, 2010, 12:15:47 PM i checked it and it is just bugged, i know where to type after a quote dude...
and ssj, my point is just, that ur complaining in ur own way that dantarion's being slow, or that he pisses u off cuz he doesnt share the rel file... its his work and he can do with it what he wants, i dont even wanna imagine what would u say if dantarion said this: sorry people, it all worked well, but i dont feel like sharing it, so u'll have to find another hacker to do this for all u guys who only hack using other ppl's aplications... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 02, 2010, 11:01:34 AM Hype ladies and gentlemen, HYPE!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 02, 2010, 01:49:36 PM is he back?
plz tell me! is he finally back? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on December 02, 2010, 02:24:52 PM Hype ladies and gentlemen, HYPE! >_><_< I dont get it O.o Hype for wut?Did he get marth down? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 02, 2010, 02:43:03 PM Hype ladies and gentlemen, HYPE! >_> <_< I dont get it O.o Hype for wut?Did he get marth down? It is Clone Engine related. Bricks will be shat. http://twitter.com/dantarion Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on December 02, 2010, 07:26:28 PM It is Clone Engine related. Bricks will be shat. [url]http://twitter.com/dantarion[/url] Clone Engine related? All I see is Japanese text and talks about Street Fighter. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 03, 2010, 02:39:26 AM The tweet under that one.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on December 03, 2010, 02:41:18 AM The tweet under that one. It says "ACCESSER" and I still don't know what you're talking about. Why don't you just post the direct link or tell us about it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 03, 2010, 09:26:14 AM There is no direct link.
Trust me, within time you'll see what ACCESSOR really means for the Clone Engine. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=286207&page=30 Also, Dantarion will be back home by tomorrow. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on December 03, 2010, 10:10:08 AM *Starts getting hyped* :af:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on December 03, 2010, 12:36:52 PM He gave me a reason to go back to twitter :P
*searches wtf is happenin* Hey...i was wondering...what is "0x36 MARIOD "? aka the other mario. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 03, 2010, 01:17:06 PM He gave me a reason to go back to twitter :P That would be Debug Mario.*searches wtf is happenin* Hey...i was wondering...what is "0x36 MARIOD "? aka the other mario. Basically, Mario's module has 2 different values a la Zelda/Sheik and Samus/Zamus. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on December 03, 2010, 01:52:38 PM He gave me a reason to go back to twitter :P That would be Debug Mario.*searches wtf is happenin* Hey...i was wondering...what is "0x36 MARIOD "? aka the other mario. Basically, Mario's module has 2 different values a la Zelda/Sheik and Samus/Zamus. Can we use it for anything? Even in the CSS? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 03, 2010, 02:00:33 PM He gave me a reason to go back to twitter :P That would be Debug Mario.*searches wtf is happenin* Hey...i was wondering...what is "0x36 MARIOD "? aka the other mario. Basically, Mario's module has 2 different values a la Zelda/Sheik and Samus/Zamus. Can we use it for anything? Even in the CSS? In other news, patching will probably not be a problem anymore. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 04, 2010, 04:08:28 AM but if that slot comes out of mario, that should mean u could make a transforming character over mario, right? in psa of course...
cuz if that's so, someone could use that slot to make a mario/ super mario, or a mario/fire mario, or a mario/luigi? xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 04, 2010, 04:23:50 AM but if that slot comes out of mario, that should mean u could make a transforming character over mario, right? in psa of course... It's only his character slot.cuz if that's so, someone could use that slot to make a mario/ super mario, or a mario/fire mario, or a mario/luigi? xD It has nothing to do with a supposed Mario clone. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on December 04, 2010, 07:41:39 AM The biggest question I have for this is if this also works for PAL users or if we get the short end of the stick yet AGAIN.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 04, 2010, 08:22:32 AM When it's finished, it will probably be ported to PAL/NTSC-J.
That is, when it's finished for NTSC-U of course. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on December 04, 2010, 12:35:08 PM And this will be on the SD correct? It wont be needed to have the iso and loaded through Riivolution?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 04, 2010, 12:46:01 PM And this will be on the SD correct? It wont be needed to have the iso and loaded through Riivolution? Codes are always on SD.The files (like FitRoy.pac and FitMewtwo.pac) are loaded from the SD with FPC. Riivolution is only optional. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on December 04, 2010, 01:31:20 PM Good news man, very good news.
But then again if it was that kind of situation, I would download the iso just to have the Clone Engine. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on December 04, 2010, 01:36:30 PM Are Jigglypuff, Marth, and Sonic the only characters that will be ported for use with this, or are there going to be others? Because I remember Dantarion saying that they were probably the only characters he can port.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on December 04, 2010, 01:38:17 PM Obviously.......why wouldn't there be?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 04, 2010, 01:39:50 PM metaknight probably too, as he has no articles, right ds22?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 04, 2010, 02:02:22 PM metaknight probably too, as he has no articles, right ds22? There are only 2 characters who don't have articles.Jiggz and Marth. But don't worry, articles won't be a problem anymore soon enough. And if it works out like planned, even Mario could be cloned. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on December 04, 2010, 02:07:09 PM ^Sounds awesome. I'll be patiently awaiting the release date for all of this. :)
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 05, 2010, 10:25:59 AM Magic:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/dantarion%27s-capture-stream-test Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 05, 2010, 02:13:28 PM whats that?
doesnt appear anything in that link... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 05, 2010, 02:28:01 PM whats that? You missed it.doesnt appear anything in that link... Dantarion tried to do the Clone Engine again. He got Mario to (partially) work over DK, but still no full 100% success. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 05, 2010, 02:29:18 PM i would just be OK with a marth over jiggs or olimar...
xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on December 05, 2010, 04:12:24 PM whats that? You missed it.doesnt appear anything in that link... Dantarion tried to do the Clone Engine again. He got Mario to (partially) work over DK, but still no full 100% success. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on December 10, 2010, 09:25:03 PM Did you see his Twitter!!?!?
he says he's going to crack that sucker open <_< looks like Dantarion's getting serious about his clone engine... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KingJigglypuff on December 12, 2010, 10:13:38 AM Now all we need is to make it so that the character SFX can be separated too, like having both Lucario and Mewtwo's voices, but I'm guessing it's either going to be very very difficult or impossible.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LCCoolJ95 on December 12, 2010, 10:32:25 AM Now all we need is to make it so that the character SFX can be separated too, like having both Lucario and Mewtwo's voices, but I'm guessing it's either going to be very very difficult or impossible. I think that is impossible because I don't think you can clone SFX Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on December 12, 2010, 10:39:56 AM Now all we need is to make it so that the character SFX can be separated too, like having both Lucario and Mewtwo's voices, but I'm guessing it's either going to be very very difficult or impossible. I think that is impossible because I don't think you can clone SFX Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on December 13, 2010, 02:22:59 PM DAMN IT!
When is this gonna be done? Also that great news about the SFX. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Dantarion on December 13, 2010, 02:49:34 PM waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aah
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on December 13, 2010, 03:11:47 PM dantarion? for realz?!?!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on December 13, 2010, 03:13:46 PM waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aah OMG i so FKN LMAOROF!!!! xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on December 13, 2010, 03:15:09 PM He's Online singing a Christmas carol on a rainbow donkey while stealing a baby's lolipop, like a boss.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on December 13, 2010, 03:15:52 PM Sigh...
This thread is just as worse as the ARF Engine thread on SWF. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on January 30, 2011, 11:12:03 AM Will Kirby Hats work for these extra characters?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KingJigglypuff on January 30, 2011, 11:13:01 AM Will Kirby Hats work for these extra characters? I don't know, but don't post on dead topics.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on January 30, 2011, 12:45:21 PM now that its alive again, is there any known progress???
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on January 30, 2011, 04:32:21 PM like KingJigglyPuff said, don't post in dead projects, the Clone engine was BOUND to fail. like it ALWAYS has.
a Clone engine as i said is impossible. now i'm off. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on January 30, 2011, 04:59:11 PM like KingJigglyPuff said, don't post in dead projects, the Clone engine was BOUND to fail. like it ALWAYS has. Nothing is impossible for Dantarion.a Clone engine as i said is impossible. now i'm off. And it hasn't failed until Dantarion himself says so, so please refrain from making such assumptions. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on January 31, 2011, 11:34:05 AM Than how come ther has been no updates since a month ago?
or has the precious ProjectM gotten in the way? though ProjectM is one of my main anticipated code sets(FUDGE YEAHS) but i like to develop things, and having to use preexisting characters is a pain in the ass. i would LOVE a Dark Samus/Shadow/Roy/Mewtwo/Sephiroth/Cloud/Ichigo. to be Independant Characters. while keeping the rest of the Brawl cast (except a select few) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on January 31, 2011, 12:02:16 PM Project M and life is why.
But seriously, Dantarion is currently very busy right now (and not only with Project M), so the Clone Engine will just have to wait (It's not that I like it myself, but I can also live without right now). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on January 31, 2011, 12:07:14 PM Ds22, I have a little question for you as you seem to know a lot about clone engines. I know Dantarion's clone engine won't come soon, so we'll have to be patient, it is normal. But what I want to know is about Alma's clone engine. I know it is a little different than Dantarion's but is Alma's clone engine operational and accessible? I know the bad thing about this clone engine is that we have to assign one Psa for a combination of button but I suppose it is better than have completely nothing.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on January 31, 2011, 01:29:04 PM It's just dissapointing.
and Alma's Clone engine isn't truly a Clone engine. it just redirected the files you wanted to load when you pressed a combination of buttons. i never did figure out how Alma's Clone engine worked. but i would like to know if we could use multiple PSA'S on one field at one time. like Roy VS Marth type Deal. i think it wasn't possible. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on January 31, 2011, 01:29:57 PM it isnt possible ^^
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on January 31, 2011, 04:19:37 PM Omega Phazon Samus: Yes, Alma's Clone engine is not really a clone engine, but what happens if there are two players and they use two different combinations of buttons on the same character? Maybe doing something like this two different Psa for a character can fight themselves? This is just a supposition...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on January 31, 2011, 04:26:07 PM ^ Unfortunately it doesn't work like that. :/ Two people playing the same char will end up with the same PSA.....
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on January 31, 2011, 04:38:06 PM Ah ok! As I said it was just a theory! :laugh: Anyway, Alma's clone engine allows at least to gain some time I suppose, at least if we have multiple Psas for a character, with this, we're not forced anymore to go on the computer to change the Psa.
Anyway, I hope Dantarion's clone engine will be operational, after some time of course, I will be patient! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 01, 2011, 09:42:54 AM personally i think dantarion is aiming a little too far, a lot of ppl would be happy with perfect port methods, usable character port rels, and sfx codes, i think the sound stuff shouldnt be that difficult, i have no idea about coding but i guess it could just make the game load SFX file X, when loading character Y, instead of SFX Y, i dont know if i explained myself there ¬¬
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on February 01, 2011, 09:46:01 AM ^ That I would actually like...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on February 01, 2011, 09:49:00 AM The last I read was that Dantarion was having problems with the Articles (Ike's sword, Link's Boomerang, etc) but other than that, everything else was done.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 01, 2011, 12:59:08 PM Well, someone should suggest this to Dantarion. i have many useless characters.
someone suggest this to him. it'll be very AWESOME!!! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on February 01, 2011, 01:06:19 PM OMg i forgot about this O.o
its already feb.......it was gonna be out by Dec :'( Whatever i dont really care :af: Well keep trying. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 01, 2011, 01:46:41 PM Didn't realize this thread was dead. Sorry for bringing it back.
But it got everyone talkin! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 01, 2011, 03:17:02 PM sigh....
Fot those that want to REALLY help move this along, learn ASM. Also, this word of wisdom from Phantom Wings. Quote Oh yeah, on the topic of the clone engine. You may want to check out the ftClassInfoImpl<CharId, ftChar> and the soArticleMediatorImpl objects. The ftClassInfoImpl is responsible for which character Id can access the module and the soArticleMediatorImpl appears to be whats responsible for articles freezing. It should be noted that most of the ASMers are occupied with PM so we should increase the number of ASM savvy users so we can move both PM and this thing along. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 01, 2011, 04:05:42 PM It may sound easy, but in reality it is indeed harder than it looks.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 01, 2011, 05:39:22 PM I know it's harder than it looks. i used to manually program games ([censored]ty ones at that, but they were games)
so i can be patient, but Ds22 can you ask Dantarion if he would make it where you can replace characters with the whole .rel way? i have tons of characters i do not want. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on February 01, 2011, 08:39:33 PM HEY LISTEN
I'm watching a P:M live feed atm and the clone engine isn't "Never going to happen herr" I see roy, and I see marth at the same time. And this is old news. /educate Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 02, 2011, 03:36:11 PM It's obviously Roy over Ivysaur!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 02, 2011, 04:35:42 PM -_- Comments like that make me facepalm.
The Roy version that is working still has graphical glitches, but doesn't have the sword in his mouth. Still needs work before it becomes public. Title: ... Oh look, clones... Post by: PhantomWings on February 02, 2011, 06:02:44 PM Sigh, all ye gentlemen of little faith.
(http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/568/clones1.th.png) (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/clones1.png/)(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5991/clones2.th.png) (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/clones2.png/)(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9370/clones3.th.png) (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/clones3.png/)(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg192/scaled.php?server=192&filename=clones4.png&res=gal) (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/clones4.png/) As much as I'd like to dispense with the wit and just release the darn things already, that's not really possible at the moment. You need a remote debugger in order to make them load properly. Rest assured though, that these clones are exact, flawless replicas of their originals. The problem is not really the fabled "clone engine" - that's child's play - but the actual clones themselves. The modules - the very essence of a character - are what determine whether a moveset has or hasn't been loaded already. That means that even if you were to use multiple .pac files, you would still get only one of the movesets. Thus it is required that the modules themselves be cloned. But there's a catch: modules are very specifically designed to load and manage resources at very specific levels - just copying them isn't enough. In ordinary cases, the modifications needed in order to make the modules function properly for any character id would be considered relatively simple. In the case of the two clones above, it was only a matter of changing 1 value for each of them at runtime using WiiRD. Even without a USB Gecko, the total sum of changes needed to be made to a module file would be within the range of 10 to 20 lines of ASM code - not a whole lot. However, module files are structured in such a way that even a slight change in the line count would require a massive amount of hex editing. I've spent the last 2 days trying to make a patched module by hand to release along with the pictures, but it was today that I finally realized the sheer scale of the job ahead of me. If and I when complete the module editor I've been working on, then creating clones will become substantially easier. Once modules can be hacked to work generically for any id, then the rest of the clone engine like adding separate slots to the roster or changing which sound banks are used can all be done with a few simple codes. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ✿Zelia✿ on February 02, 2011, 06:07:40 PM Phantomwings i heard/seen that name before
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KingJigglypuff on February 02, 2011, 06:08:00 PM Phantomwings i heard/seen that name before Creator of PSA.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ✿Zelia✿ on February 02, 2011, 06:10:06 PM Phantomwings i heard/seen that name before Creator of PSA.Title: ...Phantom Wings has Spoken. Listen and Learn.... Post by: Beyond on February 02, 2011, 06:12:01 PM Sigh, all ye gentlemen of little faith. ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/568/clones1.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/i/clones1.png/[/url])([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5991/clones2.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/i/clones2.png/[/url])([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9370/clones3.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/i/clones3.png/[/url])([url]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg192/scaled.php?server=192&filename=clones4.png&res=gal[/url]) ([url]http://img192.imageshack.us/i/clones4.png/[/url]) As much as I'd like to dispense with the wit and just release the darn things already, that's not really possible at the moment. You need a remote debugger in order to make them load properly. Rest assured though, that these clones are exact, flawless replicas of their originals. The problem is not really the fabled "clone engine" - that's child's play - but the actual clones themselves. The modules - the very essence of a character - are what determine whether a moveset has or hasn't been loaded already. That means that even if you were to use multiple .pac files, you would still get only one of the movesets. Thus it is required that the modules themselves be cloned. But there's a catch: modules are very specifically designed to load and manage resources at very specific levels - just copying them isn't enough. In ordinary cases, the modifications needed in order to make the modules function properly for any character id would be considered relatively simple. In the case of the two clones above, it was only a matter of changing 1 value for each of them at runtime using WiiRD. Even without a USB Gecko, the total sum of changes needed to be made to a module file would be within the range of 10 to 20 lines of ASM code - not a whole lot. However, module files are structured in such a way that even a slight change in the line count would require a massive amount of hex editing. I've spent the last 2 days trying to make a patched module by hand to release along with the pictures, but it was today that I finally realized the sheer scale of the job ahead of me. If and I when complete the module editor I've been working on, then creating clones will become substantially easier. Once modules can be hacked to work generically for any id, then the rest of the clone engine like adding separate slots to the roster or changing which sound banks are used can all be done with a few simple codes. He who soars on wings has appeared! And at KC! : O There is hope yet. Phantomwings i heard/seen that name before Creator of PSA.Now i remember and did he create all those codes we use for are games to work He made the File Patch Code. PSA. CSS Organizer. The Stage Roster Expansion codes.... and more. Title: I remember the Phantom.... Post by: ✿Zelia✿ on February 02, 2011, 06:12:56 PM Yup i fully remember him now
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 02, 2011, 06:14:32 PM Hmmmmmm, I've never heard of PhantomWings....
Joking, I love PH! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: PhantomWings on February 02, 2011, 10:16:17 PM Flattery will get you everywhere, but for the time being I'm still not officially on the job. As with Dant's case, life has taken the wheel while hacking has gotten stuck with the back seat.
I'm aiming to take a little bit of time near the end of the month to try and get back into the swing of things again. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ✿Zelia✿ on February 02, 2011, 10:21:19 PM Flattery will get you everywhere, but for the time being I'm still not officially on the job. As with Dant's case, life has taken the wheel while hacking has gotten stuck with the back seat. I'm aiming to take a little bit of time near the end of the month to try and get back into the swing of things again. So you made some new codes or not Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on February 02, 2011, 10:26:36 PM I think he pretty much explained everything that's going on, and together with that, he never said he made a code, what'd he made a code for atm, anyways, for this matter, when knowing what's missing for it to work?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 03, 2011, 07:04:08 AM Sigh, all ye gentlemen of little faith. ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/568/clones1.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/i/clones1.png/[/url])([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5991/clones2.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/i/clones2.png/[/url])([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9370/clones3.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/i/clones3.png/[/url])([url]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg192/scaled.php?server=192&filename=clones4.png&res=gal[/url]) ([url]http://img192.imageshack.us/i/clones4.png/[/url]) As much as I'd like to dispense with the wit and just release the darn things already, that's not really possible at the moment. You need a remote debugger in order to make them load properly. Rest assured though, that these clones are exact, flawless replicas of their originals. The problem is not really the fabled "clone engine" - that's child's play - but the actual clones themselves. The modules - the very essence of a character - are what determine whether a moveset has or hasn't been loaded already. That means that even if you were to use multiple .pac files, you would still get only one of the movesets. Thus it is required that the modules themselves be cloned. But there's a catch: modules are very specifically designed to load and manage resources at very specific levels - just copying them isn't enough. In ordinary cases, the modifications needed in order to make the modules function properly for any character id would be considered relatively simple. In the case of the two clones above, it was only a matter of changing 1 value for each of them at runtime using WiiRD. Even without a USB Gecko, the total sum of changes needed to be made to a module file would be within the range of 10 to 20 lines of ASM code - not a whole lot. However, module files are structured in such a way that even a slight change in the line count would require a massive amount of hex editing. I've spent the last 2 days trying to make a patched module by hand to release along with the pictures, but it was today that I finally realized the sheer scale of the job ahead of me. If and I when complete the module editor I've been working on, then creating clones will become substantially easier. Once modules can be hacked to work generically for any id, then the rest of the clone engine like adding separate slots to the roster or changing which sound banks are used can all be done with a few simple codes. I was so not expecting this you know... There is still hope. :happy: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on February 03, 2011, 12:33:13 PM Sigh, all ye gentlemen of little faith. ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/568/clones1.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img80.imageshack.us/i/clones1.png/[/url])([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5991/clones2.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img546.imageshack.us/i/clones2.png/[/url])([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/9370/clones3.th.png[/url]) ([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/i/clones3.png/[/url])([url]http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg192/scaled.php?server=192&filename=clones4.png&res=gal[/url]) ([url]http://img192.imageshack.us/i/clones4.png/[/url]) As much as I'd like to dispense with the wit and just release the darn things already, that's not really possible at the moment. You need a remote debugger in order to make them load properly. Rest assured though, that these clones are exact, flawless replicas of their originals. The problem is not really the fabled "clone engine" - that's child's play - but the actual clones themselves. The modules - the very essence of a character - are what determine whether a moveset has or hasn't been loaded already. That means that even if you were to use multiple .pac files, you would still get only one of the movesets. Thus it is required that the modules themselves be cloned. But there's a catch: modules are very specifically designed to load and manage resources at very specific levels - just copying them isn't enough. In ordinary cases, the modifications needed in order to make the modules function properly for any character id would be considered relatively simple. In the case of the two clones above, it was only a matter of changing 1 value for each of them at runtime using WiiRD. Even without a USB Gecko, the total sum of changes needed to be made to a module file would be within the range of 10 to 20 lines of ASM code - not a whole lot. However, module files are structured in such a way that even a slight change in the line count would require a massive amount of hex editing. I've spent the last 2 days trying to make a patched module by hand to release along with the pictures, but it was today that I finally realized the sheer scale of the job ahead of me. If and I when complete the module editor I've been working on, then creating clones will become substantially easier. Once modules can be hacked to work generically for any id, then the rest of the clone engine like adding separate slots to the roster or changing which sound banks are used can all be done with a few simple codes. I really wait this. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 03, 2011, 12:38:09 PM Flattery will get you everywhere, but for the time being I'm still not officially on the job. As with Dant's case, life has taken the wheel while hacking has gotten stuck with the back seat. :) So you're coming back to rework things?I'm aiming to take a little bit of time near the end of the month to try and get back into the swing of things again. If so, hooray. :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 03, 2011, 05:25:43 PM Amazing progress is amazing.
At first you showed Link and Zero, and now it's Ike, Cloud, and Naruto? And you say once you're finished, it will be as simple as adding new slots to the roster with codes. Will the original CSS function correctly? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 03, 2011, 06:50:08 PM PATO editing is functional so yes.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 03, 2011, 06:54:11 PM PATO???
did u know that that means duck in spanish...? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 03, 2011, 10:25:28 PM Isn't it PAT0, as in zero, not the letter O?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 03, 2011, 10:38:07 PM Pat0 as in zero.
As of now, it lets us can have custom stages with their own icons and such. Also, Dant ststed a while ago that it also allows us to add to the CSS as well. The only issue is the file size limit. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 04, 2011, 05:29:23 AM Reducing the quality of some pictures could help avoiding the file size limit.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 04, 2011, 09:18:26 AM Reducing the quality of some pictures could help avoiding the file size limit. There must be SOME WAY, like a code or something, to get around the file size limit. To be honest, I think THAT'S more of a "Holy Grail of Brawl hacking" that the clone engine. If we got the file size limit out of the way, the one major limit to hacking would be gone.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 04, 2011, 09:54:27 AM Reducing the quality of some pictures could help avoiding the file size limit. There must be SOME WAY, like a code or something, to get around the file size limit. To be honest, I think THAT'S more of a "Holy Grail of Brawl hacking" that the clone engine. If we got the file size limit out of the way, the one major limit to hacking would be gone.Basically what I'm trying to say, is that each file has a set amount of space (some which is more empty than others) and is set to have certain pointers of where each file begins. If one of the files is that big that it goes beyond it's set pointers, it freezes, since it then breaks the game structure. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 04, 2011, 10:17:30 AM Makes me wish we could what Shanus and pals did for Zamus's moveset file.
Quote from: Shanus on Zamus We are not confounded by her file size limits due to character pac injections (just like fighter.pac injections). Quote WindOwl discovered it. Its basically doing the same style of writing code like a fighter.pac injection, but then use a Go To (created from a noppped line and its type MUST be value, not pointer or else the game assigns a pointer table which will screw up everything) that points to the command start of your new lines in memory. Oh well. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 04, 2011, 12:23:56 PM So i hyped. about 3 working clones.
but do they work without their original counter parts? and articles? or is that still some sort of issue that needs some working out. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 04, 2011, 12:27:58 PM If you look closely at the picture, you can see Naruto's shadow clone, which should tell you that he managed to get articles working better, as the Shadow Clone is an article.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 04, 2011, 12:37:26 PM Reducing the quality of some pictures could help avoiding the file size limit. There must be SOME WAY, like a code or something, to get around the file size limit. To be honest, I think THAT'S more of a "Holy Grail of Brawl hacking" that the clone engine. If we got the file size limit out of the way, the one major limit to hacking would be gone.Basically what I'm trying to say, is that each file has a set amount of space (some which is more empty than others) and is set to have certain pointers of where each file begins. If one of the files is that big that it goes beyond it's set pointers, it freezes, since it then breaks the game structure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Riivolution is not effected by file size limits, no? Just wondering. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 04, 2011, 01:01:46 PM If you look closely at the picture, you can see Naruto's shadow clone, which should tell you that he managed to get articles working better, as the Shadow Clone is an article. I got that to work as well, but I always got a crash on entry when (for example) Naruto (the Ike clone) was there without the original Ike.But knowing PhantomWings, he probably fixed that even before taking those pictures. Reducing the quality of some pictures could help avoiding the file size limit. There must be SOME WAY, like a code or something, to get around the file size limit. To be honest, I think THAT'S more of a "Holy Grail of Brawl hacking" that the clone engine. If we got the file size limit out of the way, the one major limit to hacking would be gone.Basically what I'm trying to say, is that each file has a set amount of space (some which is more empty than others) and is set to have certain pointers of where each file begins. If one of the files is that big that it goes beyond it's set pointers, it freezes, since it then breaks the game structure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Riivolution is not effected by file size limits, no? Just wondering. It has other issues though (unrelated to file size limits). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 04, 2011, 01:10:27 PM Yeah one issue, no modding zelda/pokemon/bowser/samus.
slow loading/random crashes (even without mods) riivolutions great for sounds and file size limits. but it sucks ever where else. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 04, 2011, 03:03:32 PM Hey, have you noticed on the CoN Naruto PSA(in 1 -tailed mode), Naruto's Side Smash's hand is a righty hand but on Naruto's left arm?
I'm fixing that in my Naruto PSA. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 04, 2011, 03:14:04 PM lol i just noticed.
im sorta can't wait for this =D more characters, or be able to play multiple PSA'S i wish i could make PSA'S be attached to costumes. like sephiroth = his psa/sasuke etc etc. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 06, 2011, 06:05:26 AM lol i just noticed. Movesets connected to specific costumes will never happen unfortunately.im sorta can't wait for this =D more characters, or be able to play multiple PSA'S i wish i could make PSA'S be attached to costumes. like sephiroth = his psa/sasuke etc etc. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 06, 2011, 06:56:36 AM actually, couldnt there be a code made, like:
IF: *file loaded: fitike00.pcs* LOAD: fitike000.pac IF: *file loaded: fitike01* LOAD: fitike001.pac etc. i have no idea about coding, and probably file size limit would be counted with all psa files together... like if limit is 4, and u have 6 slots, it would be a limit of 2/3 per slot... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 06, 2011, 07:12:25 AM actually, couldnt there be a code made, like: I think cloning a whole new character slot is easier than that.IF: *file loaded: fitike00.pcs* LOAD: fitike000.pac IF: *file loaded: fitike01* LOAD: fitike001.pac etc. i have no idea about coding, and probably file size limit would be counted with all psa files together... like if limit is 4, and u have 6 slots, it would be a limit of 2/3 per slot... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 06, 2011, 07:50:03 AM might be ^^
xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 06, 2011, 09:44:47 AM yeah.
was an old thought i had. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 06, 2011, 03:06:41 PM actually, couldnt there be a code made, like: IF: *file loaded: fitike00.pcs* LOAD: fitike000.pac IF: *file loaded: fitike01* LOAD: fitike001.pac etc. i have no idea about coding, and probably file size limit would be counted with all psa files together... like if limit is 4, and u have 6 slots, it would be a limit of 2/3 per slot... But it sounds like with a little recoding, Almas's Clone Engine could do that. OR doesn't. I don't really know anything about coding. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 06, 2011, 04:02:46 PM Almas' clone engine failed.
Quote Almas's clone engine worked by attempting to redirect which files the game loaded from disc. This worked, but since the game THOUGHT it was loading files for a particular character, the game couldn't differentiate between the character and the clone, meaning Marth vs Roy was impossible. This also required people to sacrifice one character to replace another. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 06, 2011, 04:15:22 PM I am aware that it didn't do what everyone wanted, but I thought that it managed to switch Movesets with a button input, but only one at a time.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 06, 2011, 04:59:50 PM I'm actually more interested in having more than just 6 costumes per character, personally.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 06, 2011, 05:05:13 PM I'm actually more interested in having more than just 6 costumes per character, personally. There will only be 6 for each?That's awesome. [/not sarcastic] Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 06, 2011, 05:09:14 PM ...Hes saying, he WANTS more than 6 costumes per char....
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 06, 2011, 05:10:30 PM ...Hes saying, he WANTS more than 6 costumes per char.... I know that. I was just asking if he knew if there were going to be 6 costumes originally.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 06, 2011, 05:16:17 PM ...per character meaning "everyone", not just "lolclones".
I don't know about you, but having only 6 costumes per character is a bit restrictive. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 06, 2011, 05:37:54 PM 6, restrictive?
dude, max players are 4, its just that there are too many hacks ¬¬ xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 06, 2011, 05:55:34 PM What's the max players have to do with the costumes? Nothing. I'd just like more than 6 costumes per character.
Wario has 12, so why should he be the only one? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 06, 2011, 05:56:18 PM What's the max players have to do with the costumes? Nothing. I'd just like more than 6 costumes per character. Yeah, so hopefully 12.Wario has 12, so why should he be the only one? If 12, omg... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 06, 2011, 06:08:00 PM I'm saying 12 at least, of course. Some people might want more to house every single Shadow hack in the history of forever.
(Oh yes, I went there.) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 07, 2011, 02:58:34 AM I [censored]ing hate those [censored]ed shadow hacks.
so over done and sssooo boring. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 12, 2011, 07:47:12 AM Extra costume slots would be nice, but I rather first have module patching to work.
I hope that when PhantomWings' module editor eventually is completed and released, I can modify Ike's module to fully work over Olimar. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 12, 2011, 10:39:03 AM Oh yes!
Definietely over Olimar. ofcourse, i hope we will eventually add in new characters, but module patching sounds sexy at first =3 ofcourse, we could just replace the 4 alloys. would that work? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 12, 2011, 11:00:22 AM OMG!!!
ike over olimar is perfect!!!!!!!! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 12, 2011, 12:02:27 PM I'd rather have Kid Goku over Olimar then have Gray Fox over ROB.
BAM, two characters made not useless anymoar. :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 12, 2011, 12:40:01 PM Oh yes! The Alloys uses the same module, so I don't think that will work.Definietely over Olimar. ofcourse, i hope we will eventually add in new characters, but module patching sounds sexy at first =3 ofcourse, we could just replace the 4 alloys. would that work? OMG!!! I have Naruto over Olimar in mind.ike over olimar is perfect!!!!!!!! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 12, 2011, 01:20:26 PM OR cloud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
did u already manage to port perfectly? cuz it would be an awesome beginning!!!! i would totally get rid of olimar to put cloud in! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 12, 2011, 01:40:33 PM OR cloud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I ported Cloud over DK, but that's not the same as actually using patched modules.did u already manage to port perfectly? cuz it would be an awesome beginning!!!! i would totally get rid of olimar to put cloud in! With these patched modules, can just rename the files to get them to work. What I did with Cloud Kong was copy/pasting almost all the data from .Fade's Cloud PSA to DK files. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 12, 2011, 02:26:04 PM but i suppose it has some glitches... (havent tried it)
and if u can perfectly port using module patches... ^^ Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 12, 2011, 07:27:45 PM I didn't know the Alloys used the same module.
meh oh well. either way, the best start for the clone engine is module patching much like stage module patching. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on February 13, 2011, 08:21:02 PM it isnt possible ^^ like KingJigglyPuff said, don't post in dead projects, the Clone engine was BOUND to fail. like it ALWAYS has. Don't mind me. Just reminding these kids of their ignorance.a Clone engine as i said is impossible. now i'm off. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: zigheart on February 14, 2011, 12:07:55 AM it isnt possible ^^ like KingJigglyPuff said, don't post in dead projects, the Clone engine was BOUND to fail. like it ALWAYS has. Don't mind me. Just reminding these kids of their ignorance.a Clone engine as i said is impossible. now i'm off. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 14, 2011, 02:27:11 AM it isnt possible ^^ like KingJigglyPuff said, don't post in dead projects, the Clone engine was BOUND to fail. like it ALWAYS has. Don't mind me. Just reminding these kids of their ignorance.a Clone engine as i said is impossible. now i'm off. ur the ignorant here mah boy, cuz i was talking about alma's clone engine, and i said it isnt possible to have marth vs roy in that clone engine, so who's ignorant here? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Puraidou on February 14, 2011, 02:47:36 AM Jokekid no need to start a war here. N0ah, why did you even post that?
The thread received multiple comments before so why post that now when it's active again? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on February 14, 2011, 10:43:36 AM Jokekid no need to start a war here. N0ah, why did you even post that? idk, just found it a little ironic and funny that the people who said it wasn't possible are now really supportive.The thread received multiple comments before so why post that now when it's active again? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on February 14, 2011, 12:46:22 PM >.>
WTF i forgot about this. Actully i would like Ike over Olimar Oh and Peach over....um.....Rob? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 14, 2011, 01:06:44 PM Jokekid no need to start a war here. N0ah, why did you even post that? idk, just found it a little ironic and funny that the people who said it wasn't possible are now really supportive.The thread received multiple comments before so why post that now when it's active again? and i find it funny u didnt check this out: It's just dissapointing. and Alma's Clone engine isn't truly a Clone engine. it just redirected the files you wanted to load when you pressed a combination of buttons. i never did figure out how Alma's Clone engine worked. but i would like to know if we could use multiple PSA'S on one field at one time. like Roy VS Marth type Deal. i think it wasn't possible. it isnt possible ^^ u see now? i wasnt talking abot the clone engine not being possible, i am probably one of the few ppl who never doubted about dantario's work on it, i was talking about the impossibility of marth vs roy in alma's clone engine... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 14, 2011, 01:23:26 PM Well, alot of dissapointment, and i realisized it was possible. so meh,
i am just waiting to get rid of lame for awesome characters Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: whiselifax on February 15, 2011, 04:48:43 PM Well, alot of dissapointment, and i realisized it was possible. so meh, i am just waiting to get rid of lame for awesome characters The clone engine doesn't replace characters, it adds characters. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on February 15, 2011, 04:50:29 PM Well, alot of dissapointment, and i realisized it was possible. so meh, i am just waiting to get rid of lame for awesome characters The clone engine doesn't replace characters, it adds characters. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 15, 2011, 06:17:32 PM Yeah, i know this.
but if you can patch modules. that means you can patch other charcter modules ro replace other characters. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 16, 2011, 02:42:59 AM Well, alot of dissapointment, and i realisized it was possible. so meh, i am just waiting to get rid of lame for awesome characters The clone engine doesn't replace characters, it adds characters. from what ive understood, it creates dummy characters (useless) and through module patching it makes them useful, so its somwhat like replacing characters, but that conversation came from another place, we were talking about before the clone engine, there would be a perfect replace posibility... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 16, 2011, 09:55:46 AM Actually, leftover data from unused characters is being used to have the extra characters created.
Anyway, PhantomWings said he will first do character module patching, which means that one character will be replaced for another (for example, Olimar being replaced with Naruto/Cloud and R.O.B. being replaced with Zero). The patching being the hard part and out of the way, adding characters instead of replacing them will be much easier (being possible most characters at least instead of only Marth and Jiggz being patchable as of now and the fact possibly only Dantarion and PhantomWings will be able to create new slots). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 16, 2011, 10:49:19 AM If we have to replace ANYONE, why not replace the fighting polygon team (or whatever they're called in this game)? With module editing, they'd be just as functional as the normal characters, including the B button moves, and all.
Although, I think, with the larger amount of RAM they'd use, that "Multi Man Brawl" and all that wouldn't work too well. Most likely crash the game. But you'd be able to have the fabled Naruto Vs. Ike match, without replacing any of the other important characters. Only problem with this, though is that, unless you replace all four Polygon team slots with the same character, each replaced polygon person would have only one costume. Before anyone comes in and says something along the lines of "HURR U CANT TALK ABUT DIS, ITZ NOT EVEN POSIBLE YET, HURR HURR", no one cares. It's all theoretical talk, and SOME people like to talk theoretically. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 16, 2011, 10:55:37 AM A. The Fighting Alloy Team share the same module, making it theoretically impossible to replace them properly.
B. The fabled Marth VS Roy match is already possible without replacing other characters, since Marth doesn't have any articles. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 16, 2011, 11:47:15 AM A. The Fighting Alloy Team share the same module, making it theoretically impossible to replace them properly. What if we replaced all the Alloys with different costumes (as well as a copied fighter .PAC) of the same new character? That way we'd at least get ONE new character.B. The fabled Marth VS Roy match is already possible without replacing other characters, since Marth doesn't have any articles. Also, I reflected your point B in my post, with Naruto/Ike, instead of Roy/Marth. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on February 16, 2011, 11:50:01 AM What if we replaced all the Alloys with different costumes (as well as a copied fighter .PAC) of the same new character? That way we'd at least get ONE new character. But wouldnt just be even more work?Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 16, 2011, 12:16:34 PM The point is, replacing the Fighting Alloy Team will probably never be possible.
And if you would replace them, you would indeed mess up Multi Man Brawl. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 16, 2011, 12:21:00 PM What if we replaced all the Alloys with different costumes (as well as a copied fighter .PAC) of the same new character? That way we'd at least get ONE new character. But wouldnt just be even more work?@ds22: I am going to try it tonight, when I get home from work. I don't think anyone will/should have faith in me, but I will try, none the less. Gives me something to do. I mean, there has to be a way. I refuse to believe that anything is not possible. There is a difference between probable and possible. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on February 16, 2011, 12:23:27 PM The point is, replacing the Fighting Alloy Team will probably never be possible. ^I was thinking the same thing.And if you would replace them, you would indeed mess up Multi Man Brawl. But i dont play that mode either way >_> @Oshtoby:Go for it man :P Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 16, 2011, 12:29:12 PM It would be nice.
either way. now once Phantomwing's releases the character module patcher. then well, i think making tons of Marth or ike PSA'S will no longer matter. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 16, 2011, 12:40:20 PM but, will module patching also solve the sfx/gfx problem?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 16, 2011, 12:43:28 PM Just tried out a patched Ike module over the red Alloy.
Didn't work. @Jokekid No, it will not. A code to change the soundbank is required to fix that. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 16, 2011, 12:57:13 PM oh well. it's better to have Naruto or Sasuke, not to say what they say. thougy my NTSU copy of Brawl is in Japanese sounds, really doesn't make Naruto sound so ghey.
i'll just wait and anticipate for brawl module replacments. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 16, 2011, 01:02:54 PM but, will module patching also solve the sfx/gfx problem? Sound effects? I don't think it would, as we would still need a new SFX bank for the character to point to. Maybe we could use a code, or something to ADD more soundbanks, but other than that, I can't see Just tried out a patched Ike module over the red Alloy. Well, Ike has articles (I.E: his up-B sword). I wouldn't think he'd work. I would try Jigglypuff/Marth. I'll see later tonight.Didn't work. @Jokekid No, it will not. A code to change the soundbank is required to fix that. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 16, 2011, 01:05:42 PM As long as the original template (Ike in this case) is on the field as well, it doesn't matter if the clone has articles or not.
It should work in those conditions. (as seen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0 ) If it doesn't, it means it isn't replaceable. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 16, 2011, 01:13:46 PM Yeah i figured that much out.
so yeah, just wait for the module patch. then we can hope for an official Clone engine in the future after this. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on February 16, 2011, 01:46:02 PM As long as the original template (Ike in this case) is on the field as well, it doesn't matter if the clone has articles or not. It should work in those conditions. (as seen here: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP1AszZGiT0[/url] ) If it doesn't, it means it isn't replaceable. Ah, I see. Alright then. Point dismissed. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 16, 2011, 01:55:58 PM about gfx and sfx, just like when regular porting, without module files, the original needs to be in battle in order to load the correct sfx and gfx files, right?
but that should be easy to fix trhough codes, just like the music replacement for hannenbow... ^^ Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 16, 2011, 02:14:00 PM In theory i guess.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 17, 2011, 04:33:15 AM Generally GFX are loaded just fine, no patching needed (most likely for both external graphics and swordglow).
SFX are loaded from soundbanks, which needs additional coding to get it loaded properly. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Elb on February 20, 2011, 08:30:29 PM So is the fact that you can only use a clone with a different moveset when the original character is on screen caused by articles on the replacement character? Sorry if that's been answered already; I read through the thread and I wasn't totally clear on that.
Also, what're the chances of this working with Brawl +/-? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 20, 2011, 08:33:06 PM well, seeing how the "Clone/boot out old for clone character module engine thingy" is going to be first.
I think it'll be just fine with Brawl+/- though i hate codesets, but yeah i think "think" it would be fine... buy maybe the codesets might conflict with it. who knows, you just have to wait and then experiment. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Elb on February 21, 2011, 09:22:54 PM Alright, thanks
Tthen what exactly is that in the first post? An incomplete code that only works with Marth/Roy? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 22, 2011, 02:33:21 PM That code will not work unless you have the patched Roy module. which no one besides dantarion and a select few have.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: PhantomWings on February 24, 2011, 01:06:51 PM Gasp... Wheeze... I barely made it out alive! But I got it... I got it.
Behold! The very first Generic module! [>>>>>Here<<<<<] (http://www.mediafire.com/?ztfthtug6o0obcb) This module will allow you to clone Ike over any character in the roster and - when I finish the actual Engine part of the Clone Engine - clone him into any empty space in the roster. In order to clone a character you need to put all of their resources (moveset, models, motion and final smash) into the target character's folder named according to the target character's name. Then adjust the generic module to match the character (Read the Change.txt) and rename it to the target character's module name. If you want to go the extra mile and add sound whenever the host character isn't present, then you can adjust the sound banks to your liking with the following code: Code: Sound Bank Modifier:[Phantom Wings] And finally, for your convenience and to prove that it works properly, here's a fully equipped clone of [>>>>>Download<<<<<] (http://www.mediafire.com/?c3kt44366mnaamm) Some things to note: -As noted above, unless you use the Sound Bank modifier, the clone will not have any unique sounds or voice if the host character is not in the match. -If both the clone and the original are in the match, only one set of Graphic effects will be used. This is because the graphics are being loaded into a single set of ids that both movesets are calling whenever they create graphic effects. (To fix this, we'd need to further analyze the graphic effect files) -The .Pac file which is usually considered optional when reskinning an existing character is required if you want to use training or SSE with the clone. -Replacing the target character's Entry file is optional, but if you don't replace it then the original's entry Articles will still appear. -All the Cloud outfits in the example file are the same... . Before I go, please no requests for modules. I haven't mastered the art patching them yet so I need a little more time before I can mass produce them. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 01:31:06 PM That's great!
Thanks! When I get the hang of this, I'll help the others comprehend. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 24, 2011, 01:36:23 PM OMG!!!!!!!
GOD MADE HIS APPEARANCE!!!!! u guys must understand the abusiv caps use here... HYPE!!!!!! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 01:38:41 PM I almost started to cry of joy when I first saw the post.
I finally got Naruto fully working over Olimar! Thank you very much Phantom Wings! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 01:44:46 PM HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE! Oh my god, PW. I love you. xD
My dreams are slowly coming true! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 01:48:21 PM I however need help getting the soundbank code to work.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 01:54:42 PM Odd......
I need to test the code in game before I can help you with that. BTW http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Modules The module IDs you need to fill this in are here. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 24, 2011, 01:56:07 PM Aquariums make me super horney!
Thanks so much! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 01:57:45 PM 22 * 0x04 = 88, right?
Or is it 8800? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 02:01:56 PM I don't think it's a good idea to trust google since these values are in hex...
BRB. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 02:32:55 PM Is there something I'm missing?
Cloud over ROB freezes in training mode before the announcer says GO! Note: I am not using the Sound bank code yet. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 02:40:09 PM I'm going to put this over MrG&W.
Once all the sound IDs are figured out and all... This should be fun. Thank you, PW! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 02:43:25 PM EternalYoshi, did you actually got the soundbank code to work?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 02:44:28 PM I cannot tell due to the issue of having Cloud over ROB freeze in 3 seconds in to training mode.
Is it because I have to number the costumes the way that the old character had them? If this was the case, then 1 costume would be missing..... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 02:46:05 PM Did you load a 01 or 06 costume?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 02:47:48 PM I tried to load a 03 and a 02 costume, both of which ROB have.
Is it because I have to number the costumes the way that the old character had them? If this was the case, then 1 costume would be missing..... ROB doesn't have a 01 costume. I'll make a 06 costume and try again.... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 02:51:34 PM Or it is a R.O.B. related issue.
But can you at least tell me how you calculated a ZZZZ for the soundbank code and the answer? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 02:53:05 PM Yeah. It's ROB. Still froze.
You got it to work over Olimar you say?? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 02:53:42 PM Yeah. It's ROB. Still froze. Do you think it will work on Mr. G&W?You got it to work over Olimar you say?? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 02:55:19 PM Yeah. It's ROB. Still froze. Indeed I did.You got it to work over Olimar you say?? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 02:59:20 PM "Required values to be changed:
[0x000000] = Target Module Id [0x01C248] = Target Module Id [0x014080] = Target Character Id" In .hex? I'm sorry, but I'm know NOTHING of coding. Can someone please tell me what I have to do, step by step? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 03:07:20 PM Use your hex calculator of the Sound Bank code.
Cloud and his SFX are working fine in training mode. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 03:08:48 PM Use your hex calculator of the Sound Bank code. NVM, got it to work.Cloud and his SFX are working fine in training mode. My calculator gave me a wrong answer. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 03:12:14 PM One last thing to note, the character will be forced to conform to the IC constants of the old one.
Not a big deal for since most of them(NOT CRAWLING) can be replicated via PSA. This is why Cloud is only permitted to use 2 jabs by default over Olimar. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 03:18:57 PM Actually, if you code it well in PSA, he can have a third jab.
Cloud Kong uses such coding. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 03:22:44 PM "Required values to be changed: [0x000000] = Target Module Id [0x01C248] = Target Module Id [0x014080] = Target Character Id" In .hex? I'm sorry, but I'm know NOTHING of coding. Can someone please tell me what I have to do, step by step? 1) Open the generic .rel PW posted in a hex editor. 2) Go to the offsets PW indicated in the Change.txt (00000, 1C248, 14080). 3) At offsets 00000 and 1C248 you're going to have to change the module ID of Ike (77) to that of the character you want to port him to. So for example, if you wanted him over Olimar change 77 to 71. 4) At offset 14080, change Ikes Character ID of 22 to that of the character you want him over. So 19 for Olimar. The module IDs are here, if you missed it: http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Modules. The character IDs are in the Change.txt. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: JDub on February 24, 2011, 03:29:29 PM I came. to this thread.
And now we can port characters to other characters. We've come a long way... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 03:37:08 PM "Required values to be changed: [0x000000] = Target Module Id [0x01C248] = Target Module Id [0x014080] = Target Character Id" In .hex? I'm sorry, but I'm know NOTHING of coding. Can someone please tell me what I have to do, step by step? 1) Open the generic .rel PW posted in a hex editor. 2) Go to the offsets PW indicated in the Change.txt (00000, 1C248, 14080). 3) At offsets 00000 and 1C248 you're going to have to change the module ID of Ike (77) to that of the character you want to port him to. So for example, if you wanted him over Olimar change 77 to 71. 4) At offset 14080, change Ikes Character ID of 22 to that of the character you want him over. So 19 for Olimar. The module IDs are here, if you missed it: [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Modules.[/url] The character IDs are in the Change.txt. Thank you so much man! Words cannot express my gratitude! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 03:59:00 PM MY BALLS DROPPED SO HARD!!!
Thank you Phantomwing's were like 2 steps ahead now to an official Clone engine. this makes me happeh. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KAZECoyote on February 24, 2011, 04:04:37 PM Jigglycloud freezes the game when double jumping; but everything else works. Any idea whats going on?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 24, 2011, 04:07:57 PM Jigglycloud freezes the game when double jumping; but everything else works. Any idea whats going on? Multijump IC constant.Common problem fixable with codes. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 04:13:35 PM Wait...
i got lost. Okay, so if i am to place lets say this "ike" module over to Wario. how do i go about this? it mentions HEX, so i know about that. but what's up with these [0x000000] = Target Module Id [0x01C248] = Target Module Id [0x014080] = Target Character Id i don't understant the 0x and such.. the first number by the 0x000000 part is 77 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 04:15:25 PM You can ignore the 0x part. Just pay attention to the rest.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 04:21:39 PM So just change the like first numbers i see within that section?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 04:28:49 PM No. Change the 77 for 000000 and 01C248 and change the 22 for 014080. I think....Can anyone verify?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 04:32:13 PM well 22, is for ike. so i changed those...
so it's time for Naruto... it's better than nothing lol. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KAZECoyote on February 24, 2011, 04:36:50 PM He's probably using the mario port. You'd have to look for 5b for the first 2 and 00 for the third. its the last 00 on the line if you are viewing the set at 16.
you only have to change 3 numbers. they arent the first numbers on the line, you'll have to look for it when you get to the line. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 04:39:25 PM No, i'm using the FitIke(General)
i actually like Mario... so i think i've got it. if all i had to do was the first two 77 to 6E and the other one to the actual character. OH CRUD!!! it froze as soon as i selected Wario... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 04:55:49 PM Yeah, has anyone gotten Cloud to work over Olimar?
It freezes when I choose him on the CSS. Like the screen freezes but the music keeps playing, mocking me >_> Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 04:59:23 PM No, i'm using the FitIke(General) i actually like Mario... so i think i've got it. if all i had to do was the first two 77 to 6E and the other one to the actual character. OH CRUD!!! it froze as soon as i selected Wario... Try replacing a character who uses 00-05 for their textures. >.> Yeah, has anyone gotten Cloud to work over Olimar? It freezes when I choose him on the CSS. Like the screen freezes but the music keeps playing, micking me >_> I got Naruto to work over Olimar. : / I'll try Cloud later and tell you if it works. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 24, 2011, 04:59:51 PM If I replace Mr. G&W, will Ike be flat?
2D? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 04:59:58 PM I got it to work over Olimar
Wario has special needs. I got an Idea. You know the example codes that Dant posted a while ago. Why don't we use that to port the IC-Constant values to the target character, possibly fixing all our issues involving the IC-Constants? Code: Roy has Marths IC-Constant [Dantarion] Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 05:01:24 PM Thanks Beyond, for offering to help even with my typo, LOL.
EDIT: Yoshi, you got Cloud to work too? Can you send me the files, Ive made 7 freakin .rels already Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 05:02:10 PM oh oh i forgot all about the ummm costumes. he's got... a [censored]TONE
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 05:03:47 PM If I replace Mr. G&W, will Ike be flat? I'm also wondering this.2D? I would like to replace Cloud with Mr. G&W because there are Cloud SFX. Can someone do this? If not, I'll do it later. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 05:18:40 PM I don't know.
I'm gonna see if that code works with Ike and Olimar and then come back. The 2D MAY be something hard coded into the .rel of G&W or his ICs. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 05:21:41 PM Ike and olimar work perfectly.
i just did it. right now editing the CSS will see about GW Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 05:26:12 PM Ike and olimar work perfectly. K, good luck.i just did it. right now editing the CSS will see about GW Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 05:27:07 PM Hmm...it may be my .rel creating. Most likely.....can someone just send me there .rel to put ike over olimar?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 05:28:51 PM GOOD NEWS!
Ike over Game and Watch = FLAWLESS VICTORY. so i think i'll keep olimar for now... until i can get a Generic Marth .rel. i'll give you mine. just wait a sec. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 05:29:51 PM GOOD NEWS! Can you send the Ike over GW ft_Ike over Game and Watch = FLAWLESS VICTORY. so i think i'll keep olimar for now... until i can get a Generic Marth .rel. Awesome! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 05:30:17 PM Hmm...it may be my .rel creating. Most likely.....can someone just send me there .rel to put ike over olimar? TaDa! Like magic. http://www.mediafire.com/?iivnm9j3up31grv Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 05:35:07 PM (http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5043149/Are-you-a-Wizard-.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=are-you-a-wizard)
:srs: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 05:36:33 PM Oh incase any one wants it, i'll even upload it here.
It's Ike over Game and Watch. http://www.mediafire.com/?r468kcyperfy086 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 05:38:09 PM Ok, I got the Ike over GW .rel.
Thanks Omega. :D Also, can someone convert the Cloud Sound Effects to GW? That would be the last thing needed for Cloud Slot Completeion. :>.>: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on February 24, 2011, 05:40:43 PM I really wouldn't know how to do it =/
atleast i provided that file lulz. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 24, 2011, 05:42:37 PM Someone should create a pack with .rels for all the brawl characters, thatd make this even easier.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 05:45:36 PM SUCCESS!
This code will change Olimar's IC-s to Ike's-IC, allowing him to use the third jab. Code: Olimar has Ike's IC-Constants(Dantarion, variables by Eternal Yoshi) I see that ROB"s IC constants are quite different form Ike's. I'm gonna try ROB again with Ike's constants. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: PhantomWings on February 24, 2011, 06:09:49 PM Well Bah, and here I was hoping that the modules handled all of this. >.<
Anyways, it looks like there's a lot more that needs to be changed in order to get everything to line up correctly. From what I can gather using WiiRD, one of those things seems to point to two separate methods between Ike and Rob. Quite frankly, I have absolutely no idea what it is, but changing repointing Rob's method to Ike's allows Ike to go over Rob. Here's the code Code: Rob has Ike's ...Something: I'll look into this some more, but it's going to be a while until I have as much free time as I had today. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 06:11:04 PM ahh... thanks PW.
My other attempt didn't work. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on February 24, 2011, 06:29:03 PM Hey, what did I mi-
*jizzes until pants are white* OH. MY. GOD. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Power Marshall on February 24, 2011, 07:20:20 PM Phantom Louis Wings, welcome Back.
I indeed await your remarkable improvement of the such things via codes and that Clone engine. You are amazing, and I simply can't stress that enough. Even for a little bit returning here, I really did not know you would even do so. I missed ya. lol :D Anyways, I cannot wait to see more on this. Good luck, man! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 07:28:18 PM Question: Say if I was using Ike over Olimar would the KirbyHat to suck up GW be Ike's KirbyHat or GW's?
EDIT: Nvm, with common sense you would know the KirbyHat would still be GW's because the ft_Ike.rel isn't replacing Kirby's Hats. >.> So at least I can have a seperate Naruto Kirby Hat and a seperate Cloud Kirby Hat. I just need to vertex a Cloud Kirby hat over GW. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 07:34:25 PM I don't know. I assume the base character's power would be loaded unless you change Kirby's PSA.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on February 24, 2011, 07:40:45 PM PW, always comin' with awesome stuff at unexpected times...
Well, this is a great evolution, be able to have 3 diferent Ike PSAs is what many people would love to have. So, if we use this with Dantarion's Roy, can we get a workin' extra Ike? It's headin' the right way... it's a matter of (free) time to have perfect ports of the whole roster. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thewill on February 24, 2011, 07:47:53 PM Wait, what about about PAL users like me?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on February 24, 2011, 07:49:57 PM ...Wait, I've been reading EVERYTHING said here from the beginning to now, but it seems I overlooked some stuff... Did someone got Cloud working over Olimar with Hackingstar's SFX? If so, TEACH ME!! T_T
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: standardtoaster on February 24, 2011, 07:52:45 PM SUCCESS! This code will change Olimar's IC-s to Ike's-IC, allowing him to use the third jab. Code: Olimar has Ike's IC-Constants(Dantarion, variables by Eternal Yoshi) I see that ROB"s IC constants are quite different form Ike's. I'm gonna try ROB again with Ike's constants. Lol, so much more complicated than it needs to be if you only wanted the third jab. :P Could have just used a one liner. Olimar has 3 jabs 04B0B7BC 00000003 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Nuke on February 24, 2011, 07:56:41 PM Someone Create a new thread and organize all this XD... and sticky it!!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 07:56:58 PM Hey, so if you made several other characters with ft_Ike.rel you'd be basically adding more vertexture slots for Ike. :af2:
I'm doing Naruto for original Ike Slot and Cloud for GW's slot. I need Cloud SFX over GW's SFX. It'd be nice if someone has Naruto(Japanese) SFX. Do you have that, ds22? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 08:07:49 PM So wait, does this ADD characters or can you just port characters over other ones? Can you add a character to the CSS now?
More importantly, I'm trying to get Project M Sonic over Jigglypuff OR G&W since I'm guessing the multi-jump thing would be a problem, and I want Sonic to have Sonic's voice too since I have SDo0M's Shadow over Sonic, I'm gonna try myself to do this, but really about the sound bank, how would I go about getting Sonic's voice over one of these characters? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 08:08:36 PM So wait, does this ADD characters or can you just port characters over other ones? Can you add a character to the CSS now? Only port over for now.More importantly, I'm trying to get Project M Sonic over Jigglypuff OR G&W since I'm guessing the multi-jump thing would be a problem, and I want Sonic to have Sonic's voice too since I have SDo0M's Shadow over Sonic, I'm gonna try myself to do this, but really about the sound bank, how would I go about getting Sonic's voice over one of these characters? Someone Create a new thread and organize all this XD... and sticky it!! Done.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 08:11:15 PM So wait, does this ADD characters or can you just port characters over other ones? Can you add a character to the CSS now? More importantly, I'm trying to get Project M Sonic over Jigglypuff OR G&W since I'm guessing the multi-jump thing would be a problem, and I want Sonic to have Sonic's voice too since I have SDo0M's Shadow over Sonic, I'm gonna try myself to do this, but really about the sound bank, how would I go about getting Sonic's voice over one of these characters? At the moment, you can only port characters over another and it requires a patched .rel. The only one PW has done so far is Ike so he's the only character you can port at the moment. So you can't port Sonic or anyone else just yet. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 08:30:40 PM So wait, does this ADD characters or can you just port characters over other ones? Can you add a character to the CSS now? More importantly, I'm trying to get Project M Sonic over Jigglypuff OR G&W since I'm guessing the multi-jump thing would be a problem, and I want Sonic to have Sonic's voice too since I have SDo0M's Shadow over Sonic, I'm gonna try myself to do this, but really about the sound bank, how would I go about getting Sonic's voice over one of these characters? At the moment, you can only port characters over another and it requires a patched .rel. The only one PW has done so far is Ike so he's the only character you can port at the moment. So you can't port Sonic or anyone else just yet. Oh -_-, well thanks lol Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 08:56:07 PM Has anyone gotten the soundbank to work? I'm trying to get Ike's voice over G&W
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 08:58:25 PM Has anyone gotten the soundbank to work? I'm trying to get Ike's voice over G&W I don't know. But try asking EternalYoshi or ds22. They might know how.I need Cloud's SFX over GW.[/repetative] Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 24, 2011, 09:04:00 PM Use your windows calculator and set it to hex mode to get the product of the character ID times 4.
Example: Code: Rob has Ike's Sound Bank Good Night. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Elb on February 24, 2011, 09:07:40 PM Wow, I've only know this site for a couple of weeks and I'm already watching history being made
PhantomWings you are pure magic Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 09:09:44 PM Use your windows calculator and set it to hex mode to get the product of the character ID times 4. Example: Code: Rob has Ike's Sound Bank Good Night. My calculator says 48 when I put 12 x 4 in when using hex mode... that can't be right, right? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 09:12:12 PM Use your windows calculator and set it to hex mode to get the product of the character ID times 4. I'll add that to "The Clone Engine Progression" thread tomorrow because I'm on my DSi atm.Example: Code: Rob has Ike's Sound Bank Good Night. Also, would those instructions work for Hackingstar's Cloud SFX(including announcer call)? Like how would input it for Mr. Game & Watch. Good Night, EY. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 24, 2011, 09:19:46 PM Use your windows calculator and set it to hex mode to get the product of the character ID times 4. Example: Code: Rob has Ike's Sound Bank Good Night. My calculator says 48 when I put 12 x 4 in when using hex mode... that can't be right, right? 12 x 4 in Dec is 48. 48 in Hex is 30. So you'll replace the XX in the code with 30. So the code for GW using Ikes Soundbank is: 4A000000 80AD89E0 14000030 000000020 E0000000 80008000 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 09:42:58 PM Use your windows calculator and set it to hex mode to get the product of the character ID times 4. Example: Code: Rob has Ike's Sound Bank Good Night. My calculator says 48 when I put 12 x 4 in when using hex mode... that can't be right, right? 12 x 4 in Dec is 48. 48 in Hex is 30. So you'll replace the XX in the code with 30. So the code for GW using Ikes Soundbank is: 4A000000 80AD89E0 14000030 000000020 E0000000 80008000 Didn't work... I'm gonna try something different, the moveset works, but he can't do his jab combo, and putting him over Jigglypuff gives a freeze because of her multi-jump right? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KAZECoyote on February 24, 2011, 09:44:47 PM I got it working. For those who are still having problems:
4A000000 80AD89E0 1400ZZZZ 000000YY E0000000 80008000 (YY will be 20 since we are using ike.) Replace ZZZZ with below Code: 0000 Mario Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 09:46:44 PM surprise surprise, it was actually 48 lol idk
But can anything be done about Cloud not being able to do his jab combo over G&W, are the IC constants easy to do for that code thing? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 09:56:57 PM Ask standardtoaster for the 3 jab code. I will ask him tomorrow.
Also, will the code for Ike SFX over GW mean all Ikes on the CSS will have the same SFX? Cuz I want Ike over GW to have Cloud SFX and the original Ike slot to have Naruto(Japanese) SFX. So I'm confused on if GW can have Cloud SFX. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 10:02:25 PM surprise surprise, it was actually 48 lol idk
But can anything be done about Cloud not being able to do his jab combo over G&W, are the IC constants easy to do for that code thing? Ask standardtoaster for the 3 jab code. I will ask him tomorrow. Also, will the code for Ike SFX over GW mean all Ikes on the CSS will have the same SFX? Cuz I want Ike over GW to have Cloud SFX and the original Ike slot to have Naruto(Japanese) SFX. So I'm confused on if GW can have Cloud SFX. I have no idea, but having Ike over G&W does have something else that's bad, you can only have 1 costume for all G&W's slots, maybe he would be better over Jigglypuff... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 24, 2011, 10:27:24 PM surprise surprise, it was actually 48 lol idk Meh. It's fine anyway. I was just going to use BY's newest Cloud, too.But can anything be done about Cloud not being able to do his jab combo over G&W, are the IC constants easy to do for that code thing? Ask standardtoaster for the 3 jab code. I will ask him tomorrow. Also, will the code for Ike SFX over GW mean all Ikes on the CSS will have the same SFX? Cuz I want Ike over GW to have Cloud SFX and the original Ike slot to have Naruto(Japanese) SFX. So I'm confused on if GW can have Cloud SFX. I have no idea, but having Ike over G&W does have something else that's bad, you can only have 1 costume for all G&W's slots, maybe he would be better over Jigglypuff... I could just use Cloud over GW until the clone engine. I don't want to use him over Olimar cuz Olimar has a lot of cool/good vertexes. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 24, 2011, 10:28:37 PM Game & Watch does, too.
He has the first vertex I've seen that fully transforms him from a "male" to a "female". Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 24, 2011, 11:00:23 PM surprise surprise, it was actually 48 lol idk Meh. It's fine anyway. I was just going to use BY's newest Cloud, too.But can anything be done about Cloud not being able to do his jab combo over G&W, are the IC constants easy to do for that code thing? Ask standardtoaster for the 3 jab code. I will ask him tomorrow. Also, will the code for Ike SFX over GW mean all Ikes on the CSS will have the same SFX? Cuz I want Ike over GW to have Cloud SFX and the original Ike slot to have Naruto(Japanese) SFX. So I'm confused on if GW can have Cloud SFX. I have no idea, but having Ike over G&W does have something else that's bad, you can only have 1 costume for all G&W's slots, maybe he would be better over Jigglypuff... I could just use Cloud over GW until the clone engine. I don't want to use him over Olimar cuz Olimar has a lot of cool/good vertexes. Yea, I'd really rather get Ike to work on Jigglypuff though so I can throw Naruto in there(can't stand Jigglypuff), I was thinking though, how would you get the sound pack for him to work on Jigglypuff, could you use sawndz to insert the stuff you download or does that only do one sound at a time, in which case I would somehow have to extract the sounds from the Naruto pack? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 25, 2011, 12:00:46 AM If you want Cloud SFX and Naruto SFX at the same time, just replace GW's sounds with Naruto's.
I don't see why you would need to replace Ike's sounds. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on February 25, 2011, 01:26:28 AM Hum, excuse me but I watched this topic and I saw there were great improvements, but there is something that I read, and I want a little more explanations, someone said he wanted rel files for all characters.
This rel files that you're talking about, are there these files called: ft_captain.rel ft_dedede.rel These are just examples, and these files, they should be completely cleaned? Because to be honest, I would really want to help you, but unfortunately, I don't really see what I can do, excepted this! If you need these types of files, I can upload them to you, but there is one condition to all who need these files, download them fastly before they are erased from the site I will upload them. So just say me if these are these files that you're searching, and I will do what I can. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 01:27:02 AM If you want Cloud SFX and Naruto SFX at the same time, just replace GW's sounds with Naruto's. I don't see why you would need to replace Ike's sounds. That's the problem though, the sounds come with specific instructions to replace IKE's sounds, it doesn't say how to replace G&W's, and as far as I know, no one's ever made a sound pack for him so where would you find out the offsets in hex to replace them with in the sound.brsar? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on February 25, 2011, 01:29:53 AM The joy of posting almost at the same time! :laugh:
Sanity's Thief: You're talking about offsets, there is a way to have the offsets of all sounds of Ike, you're talking about the fix offsets? Because if it is truly this, it can be found very easily. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: _Data_Drain_ on February 25, 2011, 01:39:55 AM It's things like this that make me happy... Seeing Brawl hacking take another step... Once again PW, you rock!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 25, 2011, 01:50:47 AM we need a marth rel... ^^
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 01:52:47 AM The joy of posting almost at the same time! :laugh: Sanity's Thief: You're talking about offsets, there is a way to have the offsets of all sounds of Ike, you're talking about the fix offsets? Because if it is truly this, it can be found very easily. No, I mean the sound offsets for G&W to be replaced with Ike's, I don't even know if that's possible though, I doubt every character has the same exact amount of hex for their sound data Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on February 25, 2011, 01:58:14 AM Sanitys_Thief: Ah I see. Anyway, if you want the fix offsets for G&W, I can have them very easily. But it seems it is not this that you're searching so...
And I don't think indeed that they have the same amount of hex for their sound data too, I didn't truly verified, but as G&W has only 4 voices if I recall correctly, which is not the case of Ike. Ogichi: http://www.mediafire.com/?dt4i92xygvsauty Here is a mediafire link containing all the characters rel files that I found, I hope this is the file that you're searching Ogichi. Of course Marth's rel file is there. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on February 25, 2011, 03:07:32 AM The clone engine is here! Hooray! Good work PW! I will be testing this very soon, hope it works in PAL.
Also, did you have to include 6 copies of the same two files in a ZIP archive? For people with 25GB download limits per month like myself, that's a little obnoxious when i'm trying to spare every megabyte. Doesn't 7Zip "ignore" duplicate files? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 25, 2011, 03:10:42 AM I thought about replacing Olimar's sound with Naruto SFX from SSF2, but I think I'll let someone else do it (I would like to have them, but it isn't a necessary at the moment).
I did do the Naruto announcer call over Olimar (this time flawless due to Olimar's name length being longer then Ike's). The only thing I need to know is how to replace the name and mark on the result screen. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on February 25, 2011, 05:54:12 AM MetaIke freezes -_-
can somebody upload the files for ike over olimar? I want this for 2 reasons. 1) so i dont have to o the work :P and 2) so I can see ho wthe .pacs adn .pcs are named Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: _Data_Drain_ on February 25, 2011, 06:21:33 AM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGgTo1I8Ah8
Well, here's a video showing off this... Phantom Wings, you sir are my hero, BY and EY rock too. :P Oh and, SonicBrawler. http://www.mediafire.com/?cq5u7ggm1439a7j I hope that helps. :) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on February 25, 2011, 06:39:47 AM I thought about replacing Olimar's sound with Naruto SFX from SSF2, but I think I'll let someone else do it (I would like to have them, but it isn't a necessary at the moment). I did do the Naruto announcer call over Olimar (this time flawless due to Olimar's name length being longer then Ike's). The only thing I need to know is how to replace the name and mark on the result screen. You wouldn't mind sending me the Naruto announcer call for Olimar, would you? ;D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on February 25, 2011, 06:42:01 AM thanks, it helps alot!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on February 25, 2011, 07:40:42 AM [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGgTo1I8Ah8[/url] Well, here's a video showing off this... Phantom Wings, you sir are my hero, BY and EY rock too. :P Oh and, SonicBrawler. [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?cq5u7ggm1439a7j[/url] I hope that helps. :) I can't make Cloud do the third jab with that code D; Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 09:41:46 AM The joy of posting almost at the same time! :laugh: Sanity's Thief: You're talking about offsets, there is a way to have the offsets of all sounds of Ike, you're talking about the fix offsets? Because if it is truly this, it can be found very easily. No, I mean the sound offsets for G&W to be replaced with Ike's, I don't even know if that's possible though, I doubt every character has the same exact amount of hex for their sound data Sanitys_Thief: Ah I see. Anyway, if you want the fix offsets for G&W, I can have them very easily. But it seems it is not this that you're searching so... And I don't think indeed that they have the same amount of hex for their sound data too, I didn't truly verified, but as G&W has only 4 voices if I recall correctly, which is not the case of Ike. Ogichi: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?dt4i92xygvsauty[/url] Here is a mediafire link containing all the characters rel files that I found, I hope this is the file that you're searching Ogichi. Of course Marth's rel file is there. No no no, I mean thanks for trying to help, but you've got it all wrong First off, the only place where you would replace the hex data for sounds is in the smashbros_sound.brsar What I'm saying is you would need to find the offset for G&W's or Jigglypuff's id in that and replace it with Ike's, but no one has made a sound pack for G&W so we don't know where it is, and even then IDK if we could replace it with Ike's because I doubt every character has the same amount of hex data for sounds So does anyone know how to find offsets in the sound.brsar? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 25, 2011, 09:43:32 AM and i ment a template module file for marth like the one he made for ike ^^
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on February 25, 2011, 09:49:42 AM Ogichi: Ha ha, I see. I suppose it will maybe help someone anyway.
Sanithy's Thief: I suppose I'm wrong indeed... I can easily have the fix offsets of each sound for each character, and of course tied to the file smashbros sound.brsar but as it seems that it is not what you're searching, I suppose I will stay back and hope you find what you're searching! :laugh: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 10:17:38 AM Ogichi: Ha ha, I see. I suppose it will maybe help someone anyway. Sanithy's Thief: I suppose I'm wrong indeed... I can easily have the fix offsets of each sound for each character, and of course tied to the file smashbros sound.brsar but as it seems that it is not what you're searching, I suppose I will stay back and hope you find what you're searching! :laugh: Yea, I mean what's a fix offset? I've never heard of that, and the only way I know of replacing sounds is through hex editing the smash_sound.brsar so I think we're talking about 2 completely different things Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 25, 2011, 10:28:28 AM Attention everyone:
If you are planning on trying to replace him over a multi-jumper, you must change the IC constants as well or you will get a freeze when jumping. Code: XX has YY's IC-Constant [Dantarion] Code: IDs DO NOT MIX THIS WITH ROB FOR NOW. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 10:31:39 AM Attention everyone: If you are planning on trying to replace him over a multi-jumper, you must change the IC constants as well or you will get a freeze when jumping. Code: XX has YY's IC-Constant [Dantarion] DO NOT MIX THIS WITH ROB FOR NOW. Someone, really, really needs to help me now with getting Naruto SFX over Jigglypuff if that's possible, oh and thanks you're awesome lol EDIT: Also, what are we using, character ID's or some module ID's for this code? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 25, 2011, 10:35:46 AM Use the ID's here.
http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/IC-Constants Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on February 25, 2011, 10:57:10 AM I have some idea for replace characters :
Doctor Mario ---> Wario (For Classic Wario, use my Doc., and the Ware Wario, use the Pik Doc.) Cloud ---> Mr.Game&Watch (It's possible? Because GW have all recolors into the FitPSA.) Shadow ---> DK (Classic 8)) Mewtwo ---> King Dedede Pichu ---> Olimar Young Link ---> Toon Link Roy ---> R.O.B. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 25, 2011, 11:45:46 AM Use the ID's here. [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/IC-Constants[/url] I used the numbers you provided in your edited post, but Cloud still can't jab over G&W, does it not work or did I do something wrong? EDIT: Here's the code I made for it Code: XX has YY's IC-Constant: Ike over G&W [Dantarion] Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 25, 2011, 01:19:11 PM It might be a character related issue, like I had with ROB yesterday.
If Phantom Wings is reading this, then know that Dantarion is at the same place progress wise as you are and that you should talk to him whenever you get the chance. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on February 25, 2011, 02:02:19 PM I found another idea :
Geno ---> Diddy Kong Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 25, 2011, 02:15:38 PM Do note that those ports won't happen unless we can patch .rels for Lucario/Snake as they are article intensive.
Wait later. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 25, 2011, 02:29:02 PM Whoa....7 new pages since yesterday.
I praise you PhantomWings! And I praise BeyondYou as well (I finally switched to Riivolution)! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 25, 2011, 04:34:38 PM The clone engine is here! Hooray! Good work PW! I will be testing this very soon, hope it works in PAL. This isn't the clone engine. It's a character .rel porter. :srs:Also, did you have to include 6 copies of the same two files in a ZIP archive? For people with 25GB download limits per month like myself, that's a little obnoxious when i'm trying to spare every megabyte. Doesn't 7Zip "ignore" duplicate files? ds22 I'm going to ask stickman for the program that allows twice the sound length of a file. He said it would be released in February and it'x about to be March. After I would like you to send me the Naruto Announcer for Ike. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 25, 2011, 05:51:33 PM I do not remember a mentioning of a program...
And why do you already state that your going to ask me for the announcer call? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 25, 2011, 05:57:14 PM I do not remember a mentioning of a program... I'll give you the link to the thread about x2 sound length.And why do you already state that your going to ask me for the announcer call? Also, what do you mean "why do you already state that your going to ask me for the announcer call?"? I only asked for the announcer this once. o-o Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 25, 2011, 05:59:54 PM You could've PM'ed me instead of posting it in this thread.
And I know about the sound length method (since I used it for my Japanese sound packs). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on February 25, 2011, 08:53:14 PM This isn't the clone engine. It's a character .rel porter. :srs: Yeah, but.1. Everyone is still calling it that 2. It's cloning without the engine, as said by Phantom Wings himself. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on February 26, 2011, 03:52:29 AM I'm still waiting for a MetaKnight and Link clone so I can have Metaknight again, Lyn, and Zero.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DrKoala on February 26, 2011, 06:57:11 AM So wait. When I understand this correct, codes are only needed for being able to use the character's sound, right? Doesn't that mean this should also work for PAL with the PAL .rels?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on February 26, 2011, 07:10:51 AM I'm more interested if this gives, or ever will, give a chance to have extra custom costumes in a character without having to port/add him onto another slot.
>_>; ...from what I'm reading, not so much. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on February 26, 2011, 07:23:47 AM i hope the clone engine will work for a EU disc so US dont got all the cool stuff for them self
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on February 26, 2011, 05:20:34 PM i hope the clone engine will work for a EU disc so US dont got all the cool stuff for them self If this becomes official and popular, it will. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on February 27, 2011, 02:53:02 AM i hope the clone engine will work for a EU disc so US dont got all the cool stuff for them self u can still do what i did, pass over to ntsc, sometimes ur game will run slow, just reset and fixed... xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on February 27, 2011, 02:58:27 AM Oh, damn, I forgot that PAL and NTSC had different RELs. Good thing I haven't tried it yet, because it annoys me when Brawl freezes.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: standardtoaster on February 27, 2011, 08:37:29 AM I can port the sfx bank swap code.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 27, 2011, 09:10:01 AM I can port the sfx bank swap code. Can you for Ike over GW please?Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 27, 2011, 09:13:31 AM SmashClash, I think he meant port the code to PAL, not port it to another character.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 27, 2011, 10:41:11 AM SmashClash, I think he meant port the code to PAL, not port it to another character. Oh ok.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 27, 2011, 11:21:08 AM I'm so glad I was present for this breakthrough!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on February 27, 2011, 11:38:31 AM Hey, in the RSBE01.gct of this: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=17084&Moderated=All
I need help finding the 3rd jab code. :srs: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on February 27, 2011, 01:18:12 PM Two questions.
If I were to port a character over one of the Alloys, would they have specials? And what happens if you port over changing characters or Giga and WarioMan? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on February 27, 2011, 02:34:23 PM *Still waits for Marth, Link, and Metaknight ports*
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 27, 2011, 02:57:01 PM *Still waits for Marth, Link, and Metaknight ports* lol dude slow down. The clone engine is in alpha state, and the holy ft_ike.rel was a gift from our friend PhantomWIngs. Link and metaknight might have not even been touched yet!Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on February 27, 2011, 02:58:16 PM This worked only Ike on this moment?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on February 27, 2011, 02:58:51 PM Only ike can be ported at the moment, yes.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on February 27, 2011, 02:59:54 PM Only ike can be ported at the moment, yes. Darn :oshi:Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 27, 2011, 04:36:08 PM *Still waits for Marth, Link, and Metaknight ports* lol dude slow down. The clone engine is in alpha state, and the holy ft_ike.rel was a gift from our friend PhantomWIngs. Link and metaknight might have not even been touched yet!That and did PW ever say he was gonna work on another character? And from what I've seen, his method for his work hasn't been revealed Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on February 27, 2011, 04:56:22 PM *Still waits for Marth, Link, and Metaknight ports* lol dude slow down. The clone engine is in alpha state, and the holy ft_ike.rel was a gift from our friend PhantomWIngs. Link and metaknight might have not even been touched yet!Sorry lol I'm just so hyped to have completely removed Olimar which is [censored] to me and now having Cloud and Ike back. I'm ready to replace Ice Climbers, GW, Jigglypuff, and ROB. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on February 27, 2011, 05:19:45 PM Sorry lol I'm just so hyped to have completely removed Olimar which is [censored] to me and now having Cloud and Ike back. I'm ready to replace Ice Climbers, GW, Jigglypuff, and ROB. Same here Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on February 27, 2011, 06:02:13 PM Sorry lol I'm just so hyped to have completely removed Olimar which is [censored] to me and now having Cloud and Ike back. I'm ready to replace Ice Climbers, GW, Jigglypuff, and ROB. Same here Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on February 27, 2011, 07:08:06 PM STILL WAITING ON NEWS ABOUT ALLOYS.
So can we replace them, too? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: standardtoaster on February 27, 2011, 08:33:57 PM SmashClash, I think he meant port the code to PAL, not port it to another character. Yeah, I meant being able to change the sfx banks. lolTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: toastoftriumph on February 28, 2011, 12:58:48 PM *Still waits for Marth, Link, and Metaknight ports* lol dude slow down. The clone engine is in alpha state, and the holy ft_ike.rel was a gift from our friend PhantomWIngs. Link and metaknight might have not even been touched yet!That and did PW ever say he was gonna work on another character? And from what I've seen, his method for his work hasn't been revealed Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on February 28, 2011, 01:12:17 PM STILL WAITING ON NEWS ABOUT ALLOYS. i think we can but not sureSo can we replace them, too? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KAZECoyote on February 28, 2011, 04:45:34 PM STILL WAITING ON NEWS ABOUT ALLOYS. So can we replace them, too? You could have just looked on the code list to see if they were there. 32 Red Alloy 33 Blue Alloy 34 Yellow Alloy 35 Green Alloy Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 28, 2011, 04:56:18 PM umm..... I don't think that it will work over the alloys considering that characters that share .rels don't work with the generic(Ike).rel.
The alloys all share the same .rel. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on February 28, 2011, 05:02:10 PM What about gigabowser and warioman? I apologize if this has been asked, I just think it'd be kinda interesting to have bowser or wario turn into ike.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on February 28, 2011, 05:05:17 PM I just tried the Cloud over Dedede download and it crashed.
Considering the fact I used a IC-constant code to change Dedede's IC-constant to Ike's, I wonder what could be the problem (I tried the same thing with Pit and got the same results). And no, you can't replace Giga Bowser or Warioman (same problem as with the Alloys). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on February 28, 2011, 05:07:58 PM Ah, that's too bad. Oh well, thanks for responding.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on February 28, 2011, 05:15:32 PM I just tried the Cloud over Dedede download and it crashed. You mean the one I uploaded? I'm using it this very instance and I get no freezing!Considering the fact I used a IC-constant code to change Dedede's IC-constant to Ike's, I wonder what could be the problem (I tried the same thing with Pit and got the same results). And no, you can't replace Giga Bowser or Warioman (same problem as with the Alloys). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on February 28, 2011, 07:34:09 PM Maybe D3 has a method different from Ike AND ROB.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 01, 2011, 08:14:39 AM Maybe D3 has a method different from Ike AND ROB. That's not it, but I had to use different codes then the IC-Constant code.Code: Dedede single jump [ds22] Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on March 03, 2011, 04:45:58 AM STILL WAITING ON NEWS ABOUT ALLOYS. So can we replace them, too? You could have just looked on the code list to see if they were there. 32 Red Alloy 33 Blue Alloy 34 Yellow Alloy 35 Green Alloy Oh yeah, that should be great. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on March 03, 2011, 07:48:12 AM The alloys don't work. I've tried. It freezes the game upon selecting the stage. Oh, well, we'll just have to wait for the actual clone engine.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: msp26 on March 03, 2011, 10:40:04 AM Alloys and Giga and warioman have unique data in their modules compared to the characters
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on March 03, 2011, 03:03:17 PM Hum, I use Riivolution, what do I need to add to my XML to make this work?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Sanitys_Theif on March 03, 2011, 06:17:44 PM Hum, I use Riivolution, what do I need to add to my XML to make this work? No Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on March 03, 2011, 06:25:49 PM ^??? Do you mean I don't need to add anything?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 03, 2011, 06:26:55 PM ^??? Do you mean I don't need to add anything? Yes, you don't.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Fliptocat on March 03, 2011, 07:08:11 PM Alright, thanks.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 04, 2011, 08:04:40 PM Ok, so where would I place the stock Icons for the result screen?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 04, 2011, 08:26:40 PM STGRESULT.pac, in MiscData[120].
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 05, 2011, 11:09:45 AM Ok, thanks. :)
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 05, 2011, 12:38:19 PM Does anyone know exactly WHOS working on the actual clone engine?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 05, 2011, 12:41:04 PM Too many pages to read?
PW is working on it, but doesn't have much free time. Dantarion also did some work on the clone engine before PM and real life got the better of him. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 05, 2011, 12:44:20 PM Real life you say?... What do you mean? That he's desided to do other stuff?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 05, 2011, 12:47:58 PM Real life you say?... What do you mean? That he's desided to do other stuff? He means that Dantarion's busy with real life and Project M (Sparing his little free-time working on Project M, I assume he meant). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 05, 2011, 12:54:51 PM Eternal, can you send me the Cloud recolors that you said you made?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on March 08, 2011, 04:15:12 PM How do I go about changing the SFX on it?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ??_? on March 08, 2011, 07:04:00 PM anyone know where the results screen character names can be found/changed?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 08, 2011, 07:06:44 PM No we don't.
I had an idea for a possible location, but it was debunked as there are not a lot of PAT0 entries in that location. BTW, If you can vertex, you can make custom logos for the result screen. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 08, 2011, 09:03:08 PM No we don't. I had an idea for a possible location, but it was debunked as there are not a lot of PAT0 entries in that location. BTW, If you can vertex, you can make custom logos for the result screen. I'd assume Vertexing to make these Logos wouldn't be too hard... Right? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 08, 2011, 09:24:59 PM Maybe I could but I need a Cloug logo. Maybe you want me to do a Naruto one as well, correct?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 08, 2011, 09:33:57 PM Maybe I could but I need a Cloug logo. Maybe you want me to do a Naruto one as well, correct? This is the Logo I'm using, think you can do that? (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i6/X-Cloud/Brawl/CSPs/MenSelchrMark14.png) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 08, 2011, 10:06:11 PM Maybe I could but I need a Cloug logo. Maybe you want me to do a Naruto one as well, correct? This is the Logo I'm using, think you can do that? ([url]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i6/X-Cloud/Brawl/CSPs/MenSelchrMark14.png[/url]) I'll probably get to that and the Naruto logo once I finish vertexing my Lamborghini. After these logos I'll be vertexing Victini, then Blaze the Cat, then texturing all the things I've vertexed up to that point. After that I'm going to recolor SSJ4 Goku to be SSJ4 Gogeta(I'm going to have vertex his belt things hanging out and his shoulder things)...After that I'm going to vertex a Gotenks over Lucas, then recolor him to make a SSJ1 Gotenks...meanwhile/after that is PSA making, then learning to make .brstms/SFX, then learn to make stages. By the time all this is done, I'll probably be starting Summer Vacation(so I'll need ideas or get ideas and stuff). ----------- Sorry, I got carried away. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 08, 2011, 10:10:46 PM You could do that logo If you use the Mother logo as a base.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 08, 2011, 10:14:39 PM You could do that logo If you use the Mother logo as a base. Good idea. Telling by the Meteor Inwould just need to stretching(6 or 7 vertices) to make the flame. But that's just looking at the 2D view. Yet again, We only see a flat view of it anyway. r)Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 09, 2011, 04:23:07 AM this is sooooooooooooooooooooo off-topic...
i know cloud and naruto are made on ike, and ike has been properly cloned, but DAMN, this is gettin off-topic... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 09, 2011, 05:39:03 AM this is sooooooooooooooooooooo off-topic... i know cloud and naruto are made on ike, and ike has been properly cloned, but DAMN, this is gettin off-topic... Not at all, we're still discussing how to fully clone characters, actually. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 09, 2011, 12:43:25 PM i was talking about the logo speach...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DMN666 on March 09, 2011, 02:49:39 PM i was talking about the logo speach... It dosnt matter >_>Its to replace Olimar's Also for the names....i could be just single letters making names like in the rollcall Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 09, 2011, 09:30:11 PM Maybe I could but I need a Cloug logo. Maybe you want me to do a Naruto one as well, correct? This is the Logo I'm using, think you can do that? ([url]http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i6/X-Cloud/Brawl/CSPs/MenSelchrMark14.png[/url]) I'll probably get to that and the Naruto logo once I finish vertexing my Lamborghini. After these logos I'll be vertexing Victini, then Blaze the Cat, then texturing all the things I've vertexed up to that point. After that I'm going to recolor SSJ4 Goku to be SSJ4 Gogeta(I'm going to have vertex his belt things hanging out and his shoulder things)...After that I'm going to vertex a Gotenks over Lucas, then recolor him to make a SSJ1 Gotenks...meanwhile/after that is PSA making, then learning to make .brstms/SFX, then learn to make stages. By the time all this is done, I'll probably be starting Summer Vacation(so I'll need ideas or get ideas and stuff). ----------- Sorry, I got carried away. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 09, 2011, 09:44:43 PM @^: I'll try. ;)
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 17, 2011, 01:58:54 PM Oh noes! The forum is dead;~:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 17, 2011, 02:03:28 PM Meh, i'm just waiting for the Marth .REL. then i'll be happy.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on March 17, 2011, 02:07:35 PM Unfortunately I don't really think it will come soon, the Marth .rel I mean. I still don't know who will be the next character able to be ported, I wonder who he will be... But I don't really expect progress before a certain time, I suppose those who are working on these .rels are busy with their life, which is understandable. But I will wait until the completion of the characters I want. :laugh:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 17, 2011, 02:14:33 PM of course me too.
if i need to make a character, just port it over Ike. speaking of which, it's off topic, but i need someone to do a perfect port of Leanardo over Ike. any suggestions? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 17, 2011, 03:48:25 PM I want a marth.rel first than anyone else!
For Ike I have Ike vs Cloud vs Naruto vs Riku Hopefully next to come... Marth vs Sephiroth vs Roy vs Kratos Then... Link vs Zero vs Lyn vs Dark Link? After... MetaKnight vs Gray Fox vs Idk really :P and finally Ganondorf Onslaught vs Sigma (Pride's PSA) vs Dark Emperor Ganon (with Dark knight tetxure) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 17, 2011, 03:49:45 PM agreed with the above. but marth is my main priority. i need Naruto's arch nemesis.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 17, 2011, 04:25:26 PM I want a marth.rel first than anyone else! Rather have this order:For Ike I have Ike vs Cloud vs Naruto vs Riku Hopefully next to come... Marth vs Sephiroth vs Roy vs Kratos Then... Link vs Zero vs Lyn vs Dark Link? After... MetaKnight vs Gray Fox vs Idk really :P and finally Ganondorf Onslaught vs Sigma (Pride's PSA) vs Dark Emperor Ganon (with Dark knight tetxure) Lucario VS Mewtwo Link VS Zero Pikachu VS Pichu Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on March 17, 2011, 04:40:30 PM No Marth vs Roy? :<
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 17, 2011, 05:48:13 PM Why should I put something on my want list if I could already have it? :P
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 17, 2011, 06:20:40 PM YOU have already
you evil man you... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 17, 2011, 06:22:07 PM Rather have this order: So... your happy :-/Lucario VS Mew2 done,port over Donkey Kong,very unstabble but at least its been attempted Link VS Zero, done, Link over toon link, perfect port. Pikachu VS Pichu, done, port over Ice Climbers, not perfect. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 05:00:00 AM Why should I put something on my want list if I could already have it? :P u should share sir ... i rly want a marth clone... for marth and seph vs ike and cloud ^^ or cloud and marth vs ike and seph... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 05:05:00 AM Why should I share something which is so easy to do and you can do yourself (articles)?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 18, 2011, 05:29:52 AM Dr. Mario Vs. Mario and Kid Goku over Luigi vs. Luigi i want :D also Shadow vs. Sonic
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Puraidou on March 18, 2011, 06:04:10 AM vs Sigma (Pride's PSA) Wait what? Pride's PSA as in mine? O_o?For me it would be: Link VS Zero Marth VS Roy VS Cloud (Cloud over Olimar somehow fails to work for my Dolphin :srs:) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on March 18, 2011, 06:06:00 AM Young Link vs Link
Toon Link vs Geno Mario vs Doc.Mario Mewtwo vs Lucario Pichu vs Pikachu Roy vs Marth Zero vs Link Sonic vs Shadow Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Power Marshall on March 18, 2011, 07:42:26 AM Young Link vs Link Agreed, Tenfold.Toon Link vs Geno Mario vs Doc.Mario Mewtwo vs Lucario Pichu vs Pikachu Roy vs Marth Zero vs Link Sonic vs Shadow Has Phantom replied since he last did? Did he release anything else? My guess is, he is working on more than one Rel then. Probably a pack...or all at once. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 07:55:41 AM We won't know until he posts about it.
Ike: article Lucario: articles Link: articles Pikachu: articles Marth: no articles Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 18, 2011, 08:40:30 AM I have no idea on how to patch an article.
i looked and it's just a whole bunch of FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU moments. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 08:48:33 AM Phantom Wings isn't going to do a Marth module since it isn't necessary.
Neither will he do a Jiggz module. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 18, 2011, 08:49:30 AM Phantom Wings isn't going to do a Marth module since it isn't necessary. why that one jiggz dont got many PSAs or import or anything (yet) Neither will he do a Jiggz module. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 09:00:02 AM Both Marth and Jiggz don't have any article data whatsoever, so patching the modules in the way Phantom Wings did with Ike's module isn't needed.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 18, 2011, 09:02:57 AM Both Marth and Jiggz don't have any article data whatsoever, so patching the modules in the way Phantom Wings did with Ike's module isn't needed. ok so i think i will try to port my Goku PSA (as soon it is 100% done) over Ike or Jiggz or Marth (on what it will work best) so we can have cp. falcon + goku at same time and use the .rel for them to port goku over anyone it was one of my next projects also for my Shadow over Marth if the .rel file for Marth is done then we can port shadow over anyone also if that one is done i will try to get my Shadow Marth to work better :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 09:13:32 AM Basically, you already could edit a Marth or Jiggz module in a similar fashion like Phantom Wings Ike module and get it to work.
Just nobody pays any attention to this fact and assumes Phantom Wings has to do that as well instead of just doing it themselves. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on March 18, 2011, 09:25:15 AM Basically, you already could edit a Marth or Jiggz module in a similar fashion like Phantom Wings Ike module and get it to work. i want to do but too bad i know near nothing about hex to do it :(Just nobody pays any attention to this fact and assumes Phantom Wings has to do that as well instead of just doing it themselves. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 18, 2011, 10:20:56 AM Basically, you already could edit a Marth or Jiggz module in a similar fashion like Phantom Wings Ike module and get it to work. Just nobody pays any attention to this fact and assumes Phantom Wings has to do that as well instead of just doing it themselves. Hmm, I'd like you to elaborate this a litle more? And why not just release it as PW released Ike's? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 18, 2011, 10:27:19 AM Umm... I think external GFX effects should be fixed before we proceed...
I remember that old method to get Marf/jiggs clones working, but what I'm trying to do is see how he patched articles in HxD, in the hopes that it may provide a clue to fixing external GFX. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 10:50:54 AM Basically, you already could edit a Marth or Jiggz module in a similar fashion like Phantom Wings Ike module and get it to work. Just nobody pays any attention to this fact and assumes Phantom Wings has to do that as well instead of just doing it themselves. actually, if u know how to do stuff like porting marth or jiggs that dsnt mean everybody even knows wut ur talking about... :S so, if u dont want to share cuz its too "easy to do", could u at least explain how easy it is? thanks Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 11:12:17 AM It's not mine, it's Dantarion's.
Also: http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 11:43:50 AM i only see lots of numbers there...
but hey, u said it isnt necesarry to patch marth's rel file, so u mean u only need a sound bank and gfx bank code? plz answer, i wanna get rid of the useless characters... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 11:52:51 AM I see offsets that need to be patched to the ID of choice.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 11:56:16 AM and i dont even know how to patch...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 11:59:28 AM HxD hex editor.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 12:10:16 PM but again, is it even a need to patch rel to clone marth?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 12:20:43 PM O yes, it is.
Like with stage modules. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 12:23:34 PM T.T
so i cant just replace all files and use sound and gfx codes? T.T Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 12:27:43 PM No, but patching a Marth module is like patching a stage module.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on March 18, 2011, 12:30:10 PM Yeah, surely since Marth and Jigglypuff have no articles they'll probably take a little less effort than most amirite?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 12:36:54 PM sry for asking, but could u than plz plz plz patch marth rel to go over ROB, for exapmple?
if rob gives problems, 2nd choice could be ness... or diddy... pleeeeeaaaaassssseeee :happy: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 01:22:29 PM As much as I want to, I can't just spread Dantarion's work without his permission.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 01:23:44 PM but u just said u knew how to do it...
T_T Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 01:25:21 PM I know how to do it, after Dantarion told me how.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 18, 2011, 01:27:27 PM ...........
soooooooo.... xD u do it, not his work, just his investigation, and i wont forget him cuz u make it... xD, anyway if u dont want to no prob, i'll wait till its public... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 01:40:25 PM He was the first one to do it, I figured this and that out of what he did, he impress and tells me the whole deal.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 18, 2011, 01:46:02 PM As much as I want to, I can't just spread Dantarion's work without his permission. Just tell us how to do it T.TTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on March 18, 2011, 01:49:04 PM For hype reasons I can't.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 18, 2011, 02:16:06 PM Well, we'll be stuck with on marth...
i'm looking at how to patch it, and i'm am COMPLETELY lost. i see the dump's but, have no idea on what they mean, i just want a marth module over Olimar. then i'll be happy. so we'll wait until DS22 is allowed to release the module, or wait until i can discover how this works, or wait until Dantarion releases it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 18, 2011, 03:23:19 PM ds22 is a wall, we have to break through him, CHARGE MY FRIENDS!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 18, 2011, 04:06:09 PM I think it's best we wait, for there may be another finding when there is an update to the module that fixes something like External GFX.
Not to mention the info there is a little old. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 18, 2011, 04:07:28 PM I think it's best we wait, for there may be another finding when there is an update to the module that fixes something like External GFX. Not to mention the info there is a little old. I'm fine with this actually, even Ike's .rel was released out of time. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on March 18, 2011, 04:28:01 PM I think it's best we wait, for there may be another finding when there is an update to the module that fixes something like External GFX. Not to mention the info there is a little old. I'm fine with this actually, even Ike's .rel was released out of time. Also take notice on how PW is about ACTUAL work instead of cruel hype.... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on March 18, 2011, 04:42:57 PM I think it's best we wait, for there may be another finding when there is an update to the module that fixes something like External GFX. I thought I was the only one who had this issue.Not to mention the info there is a little old. Good to know I'm not. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on March 18, 2011, 07:03:18 PM Still waiting for my +6 costume availablity.
Lord knows we all hate Wario for having 12 costumes while everyone else doesn't. :< Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on March 18, 2011, 07:34:37 PM Still waiting for my +6 costume availablity. :notimp:Lord knows we all hate Wario for having 12 costumes while everyone else doesn't. :< This thread has NOTHING to do with that. If you want it so bad, go request it in the help board. But I agree, why does that disgusting fat bastard have 12 freakin costumes, while others are limited to 6, or LESS! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on March 18, 2011, 11:38:29 PM About the "Patching Character Modules" page, might I ask what "li R#" phrases mean? If it seems the same with patching stages, might I ask where is the best guide to learn to do so?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on March 19, 2011, 04:17:00 PM Still waiting for my +6 costume availablity. :notimp:Lord knows we all hate Wario for having 12 costumes while everyone else doesn't. :< This thread has NOTHING to do with that. If you want it so bad, go request it in the help board. But I agree, why does that disgusting fat bastard have 12 freakin costumes, while others are limited to 6, or LESS! I'm really hoping you can add characters and not replace them with this. Lots of people loving the characters that exist now, even if they're Scrappies. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on March 19, 2011, 04:35:36 PM this wont let u load new costumes, it will make new slots, so if u want more costumes u'll clone a character to a new slot without using a different psa...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 19, 2011, 04:48:01 PM http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots
Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: toastoftriumph on March 19, 2011, 06:24:59 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots[/url] Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) yeah. It'd be amazing if we could load extra character slots through CSS the same way that extra stages have been added to SSS. Hopefully there aren't any weird file size limits though that would interfere. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on March 19, 2011, 06:32:53 PM Wario is fat.
The end. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on March 19, 2011, 07:07:48 PM ^That joke doesn't even need a punchline to be funny.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 19, 2011, 07:11:50 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots[/url] Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) yeah. It'd be amazing if we could load extra character slots through CSS the same way that extra stages have been added to SSS. Hopefully there aren't any weird file size limits though that would interfere. The CSS is in ccommon5, so there WILL be a very anal file size limit. :( Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on March 19, 2011, 07:22:33 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots[/url] Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) yeah. It'd be amazing if we could load extra character slots through CSS the same way that extra stages have been added to SSS. Hopefully there aren't any weird file size limits though that would interfere. The CSS is in ccommon5, so there WILL be a very anal file size limit. :( A method of solving this would be making the CSPs with less resolution, though... But that'd be a temporal fix. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on March 19, 2011, 07:33:39 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots[/url] Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) yeah. It'd be amazing if we could load extra character slots through CSS the same way that extra stages have been added to SSS. Hopefully there aren't any weird file size limits though that would interfere. The CSS is in ccommon5, so there WILL be a very anal file size limit. :( A method of solving this would be making the CSPs with less resolution, though... But that'd be a temporal fix. You could do that on top of P:M's common5 (they removed things that didnt need to be there to make it much smaller. On top of that, CSP type can make a HUGE difference on the filesize, trust me) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: standardtoaster on March 20, 2011, 12:26:43 AM About the "Patching Character Modules" page, might I ask what "li R#" phrases mean? If it seems the same with patching stages, might I ask where is the best guide to learn to do so? li rA,value is a PPC ASM command.li = Load Immediate It puts value into rA If you understand ASM, it's a lot easier to understand the commands. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Goronguy on March 20, 2011, 11:59:00 AM About the "Patching Character Modules" page, might I ask what "li R#" phrases mean? If it seems the same with patching stages, might I ask where is the best guide to learn to do so? li rA,value is a PPC ASM command.li = Load Immediate It puts value into rA If you understand ASM, it's a lot easier to understand the commands. Thanks! I've learned something today. Now I'm off to learn some more about ASM. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: dpgthirteen on March 21, 2011, 03:12:22 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots[/url] Just wait a bit and sooner or later a code will be made so that the game will try to load these costumes if they are referenced, then it may just be a matter of adding CSS slots.... It's a good thing that PAT0 editing is functional since it can also work for the CSS if what Dant stated a while ago is anything o go by. :) yeah. It'd be amazing if we could load extra character slots through CSS the same way that extra stages have been added to SSS. Hopefully there aren't any weird file size limits though that would interfere. The CSS is in ccommon5, so there WILL be a very anal file size limit. :( A method of solving this would be making the CSPs with less resolution, though... But that'd be a temporal fix. You could do that on top of P:M's common5 (they removed things that didnt need to be there to make it much smaller. On top of that, CSP type can make a HUGE difference on the filesize, trust me) But with riivolution can't you surpass the file limit? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on March 21, 2011, 03:23:29 PM what about the people who well, can't use Riivolution, i stopped using it simply becuase. for one! i couldn't modify Zelda. 2, couldn't do a few other things. so yeah.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on March 22, 2011, 08:41:15 AM Can some one edit me a generic ft_ike.rel to be compatible with Yoshi?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 11:26:07 AM Try giving Yoshi Ike's IC Constants. that should stop the freezing.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 11:42:30 AM Hmmm.. well .REL patching is a relatively new thing. so i don't know what to say then.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 12:58:20 PM I patched a Marth module earlier to place over Wolf, since no one I know uses him. Well, when I went to test it out, it worked...ish. The entire time, the ship that Wolf enters in with was in sight and over top of Marth (not a problem, as I could easily scale the ship to 0 times the size). The real problem, though, is when the match ended, the game froze. Anyone have any clue as to why? I gave Wolf's slot Marth's IC constants and sound bank. I have not tested this out in any other character slot, as there's really no one else I want to replace, so it may just be that Wolf is irreplaceable. Has anyone had any luck replacing him?
I THINK this would fit in here, in this thread, what with all the patching modules and stuff going on, and since this topic is about general cloning. If I'm wrong, tell me, and I'll take my questions elsewhere. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 01:03:05 PM I patched a Marth module earlier to place over Wolf, since no one I know uses him. Well, when I went to test it out, it worked...ish. The entire time, the ship that Wolf enters in with was in sight and over top of Marth (not a problem, as I could easily scale the ship to 0 times the size). The real problem, though, is when the match ended, the game froze. Anyone have any clue as to why? I gave Wolf's slot Marth's IC constants and sound bank. I have not tested this out in any other character slot, as there's really no one else I want to replace, so it may just be that Wolf is irreplaceable. I THINK this would fit in here, in this thread, what with all the patching modules and stuff going on, and since this topic is about general cloning. If I'm wrong, tell me, and I'll take my questions elsewhere. Aren't you using the files? You need to rename the files (I.E. FitMotion, Fit) and place them into the folder, I believe. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 02, 2011, 01:05:43 PM Aren't you using the files? You need to rename the files (I.E. FitMotion, Fit) and place them into the folder, I believe. And the Entry/Result/Spy/Dark etc .Pacs of Marth. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 01:09:06 PM Aren't you using the files? You need to rename the files (I.E. FitMotion, Fit) and place them into the folder, I believe. Yes, I did that. I did get in game, and played a match, it's just that once the match ended (The opponent or I died for the last time), it froze.You've manged to get Yeah, that's what I'm fearing...I renamed ANYTHING and EVERYTHING from Marth's folder on the disc to my SD card's Wolf folder, and renamed everything. The FitWolfFinalSpy.pac is the only thing really left. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 01:12:27 PM You should ask ds22 as he seems to have got an extra Marth slot using Mario Debug
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 01:25:02 PM You should ask ds22 as he seems to have got an extra Marth slot using Mario Debug Maybe I have the wrong impression of the Project M guys, but I think I'd get more information if I asked a rock in a desert. They're not gonna open their mouths about that sort of thing. They're saving that for the final release of Project M.Hell, just to get their camera code (which I was dying for), I had to decompile the Project M .GCT file and then read through the whole block of undocumented code just to understand it, and grab out the code I wanted. I still have about 100 lines of code (out of 2000) that I don't understand what it does. Anywho, if ds22 wants to prove me wrong, and inform me/us on how to properly get a Marth Clone replacement over top of Wolf working, I would be more than happy to take my words back and write an official apology to the Project M team for thinking they're snoody. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 01:28:26 PM Maybe I have the wrong impression of the Project M guys, but I think I'd get more information if I asked a rock in a desert. They're not gonna open their mouths about that sort of thing. They're saving that for the final release of Project M. Hell, just to get their camera code (which I was dying for), I had to decompile the Project M .GCT file and then read through the whole block of undocumented code just to understand it, and grab out the code I wanted. I still have about 100 lines of code (out of 2000) that I don't understand what it does. Anywho, if ds22 wants to prove me wrong, and inform me/us on how to properly get a Marth Clone replacement over top of Wolf working, I would be more than happy to take my words back and write an official apology to the Project M team for thinking they're snoody. Which camera code? I don't even remember being able to move the camera decently when I played the P:M demo at release. For me it was just like the unhacked Brawl's. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 01:28:53 PM Try again, this time with the FitWolfFinalSpy.pac. If it still freezes at the end of the match, I honestly don't know what else it could be. Maybe a code or something (like how I had an freeze with Ike on Diddy) is missing? Well, I'm in work right now, but I don't see why that would solve anything.The reason I say that, is if it can't find a file on my SD card, would it not, then try to find it on the disc, where it would be? It's most likely a code... Which camera code? I don't even remember being able to move the camera decently when I played the P:M demo at release. For me it was just like the unhacked Brawl's. It's a BIT different, believe it or not. Much wider. Makes smaller stages bearable. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 02, 2011, 01:35:08 PM I'm sure you can delete yourself the second post? Anyways, I totally understand what you're saying, but it's not that ds22 doesn't wants to tell us everything, it's just that the developers won't allow it. Dantarion won't release his .rel file, ds22 has it, but he's not in position of giving it out if Dantarion doesn't wants to (I'm aware Dantarion has his reasons to not to, I'm just stating facts). But I THINK he could help you with this, since you've gotten this far already? ._.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 01:36:20 PM Maybe I have the wrong impression of the Project M guys, but I think I'd get more information if I asked a rock in a desert. They're not gonna open their mouths about that sort of thing. They're saving that for the final release of Project M. I lol'd.Hell, just to get their camera code (which I was dying for), I had to decompile the Project M .GCT file and then read through the whole block of undocumented code just to understand it, and grab out the code I wanted. I still have about 100 lines of code (out of 2000) that I don't understand what it does. Anywho, if ds22 wants to prove me wrong, and inform me/us on how to properly get a Marth Clone replacement over top of Wolf working, I would be more than happy to take my words back and write an official apology to the Project M team for thinking they're snoody. Blame leakers like Stingers and 5ive for making the PMBR overprotective. BTW, FitWolfFinalSpy.pac is the costume for the invisible Brawl mode, therefor has nothing to do with it freezing at the end of the match. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 01:43:57 PM I lol'd. Blame leakers like Stingers and 5ive for making the PMBR overprotective. BTW, FitWolfFinalSpy.pac is the costume for the invisible Brawl mode, therefor has nothing to do with it freezing at the end of the match. ...okay, now b3 has me questioning myself, so I have to ask you one thing. Is there really a camera code to make the camera bubbles a bit wider, or was I just making stuff up in my head? I swear I found the snippet I was looking for, but if there is no camera code... what did I put into my Brawl codeset?! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 01:46:56 PM There is a Camera Bubble Modifier code.
Also, don't replace the Arwing model. Shrink it animation wise to 0,0001. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 02, 2011, 02:29:28 PM I hope ft_marth.rel and an extra slot comes out, soon.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 02, 2011, 02:39:41 PM I hope ft_marth.rel and an extra slot comes out, soon. me too and if ft_marth.rel coming we can get Shadow over Marth over XXXXXX :D (as soon i have fixed my Shadow more) or .rel file for donkey kong :) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 02:44:20 PM So, some one figured out how to patch a marth module... i need that module once it's bug free... soon.... like nao...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 02:49:07 PM So, some one figured out how to patch a marth module... i need that module once it's bug free... soon.... like nao... Figured out how...? It's been known for a while, dude. It, as well as Jigglypuff, are the only ones that don't use articles, meaning they don't HAVE to be made generic, as far as I can tell. I think the reason that it's not working over Wolf has more to do with Wolf specifically than the module being bad (I could be wrong). I'll test it with a different character when I get home.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 02:51:26 PM Please....
and if it works, please release it.... i'll love you. test it over Olimar, if it works over Olimar, i then will have a Sasuke... an Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 02:53:50 PM i then will have a Sasuke... :roy: :rage: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 02, 2011, 02:54:54 PM I see a Marth vs Sephiroth vs Roy vs Sauske match coming soon :3
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 02, 2011, 02:55:44 PM yeah please release it then we maybe have a Shadow over Marth over XXXXX(buggy now but i will fix it to work as good as shadowkong maybe better)
i will fix my Shadow over Marth after my Goku psa is 100% done Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 02:56:29 PM :roy: :rage: Of course Roy, that's what rob (hopefully) will be there for. you think i'll leave my home boy out of this? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 02:58:16 PM You've all too much faith in me. I have a limited understanding of what I'm messing with. I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 02, 2011, 03:00:05 PM who cares about roy we can finnaly get Shadow over anyone we want my Shadow over Marth with the .rel file for marth over XXXXX
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 03:03:21 PM who cares about Shadow Fix'd Roy First, Mewtwo later, than, maybe, Shadow... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 03:05:19 PM Well, having basic knowledge is all fine, lets hope your module works over someone bug free.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 03:36:43 PM who cares about Shadow lol trueTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 03:40:49 PM agreed with the above statement. i mean, Sonic is fun and all.. but honestly? too much hype for an abused character.
if you ask me, we can all do without so many shadow fan boys. this also goes for all the clouds and sephiroth fanboi's too. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 03:44:00 PM dont forget narutards :p
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 03:45:11 PM Meh. ESPECIALLY THAT!!
i mean i have Naruto, but only AND ONLY because it's better than the chronic masturbater that was Gaymanwatch. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 02, 2011, 04:10:43 PM http://www.mediafire.com/?3du960rwpr6l8
Stay vigilant Mah bois and gerlz. Sasuke/Roy will appear in the link soon. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 02, 2011, 04:30:21 PM [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?3du960rwpr6l8[/url] Stay vigilant Mah bois and gerlz. Sasuke/Roy will appear in the link soon. What, did you manage to patch Marth's .REL correctly or something? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 04:39:01 PM all i see that involves CHAR.rel's is the PF/(GENERIC)fitike.rel file...
it think this is phantomwing's folder. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 02, 2011, 05:41:49 PM That is where Phantom Wings uploads everything he has. If you see a ft_marth.rel in there, it's generic.
What, did you manage to patch Marth's .REL correctly or something? Say what??Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 02, 2011, 05:43:44 PM That is where Phantom Wings uploads everything he has. If you see a ft_marth.rel in there, it's generic. Yeah, in about a year or two Stop counting on PW, he may never come back Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 05:46:26 PM While that is true, Dantarion has nothing but hype on his side, PW has public progress, not hype, or a supposed ft_marth.rel, or codes that dont even work.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 05:47:56 PM Dantarion has more important things to do, like P:M stuff and CSE.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 05:57:05 PM I'm not saying his work is void ([censored], he prob. has tons of more work than we/the public know of), but I'm saying you shouldnt ditch PW.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 06:05:49 PM Two things to note though.
- PW has an extremely busy life AFAIK, so you might wait months before he even posts anything either here or on Smashboards (but I do think he will post at least something). - A few months ago, PW practically ditched Brawl hacking to focus himself on SMG(2) hacking (not sure if he still does this though). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 02, 2011, 06:30:37 PM PW will never abandon Brawl hacking. You cant just abandon something you have worked on nearly forever and not think about it sooner or later.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 06:35:33 PM Two things to note though. Well, it's not like Dant. posts here, hell he rarely posts here at all. the only times he has have been to help out with a sound effect resource project, and to get mad about his work being shown here. While PW is rarely here, when he is he brings whats wanted.- PW has an extremely busy life AFAIK, so you might wait months before he even posts anything either here or on Smashboards (but I do think he will post at least something). - A few months ago, PW practically ditched Brawl hacking to focus himself on SMG(2) hacking (not sure if he still does this though). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 02, 2011, 07:07:20 PM PW will never abandon Brawl hacking. You cant just abandon something you have worked on nearly forever and not think about it sooner or later. True, and also not true. He is known for being epic, and also known for disappearing for months. Real life is more important after all, we don't get paid for this. I'm still having my hopes up about a very much needed rel porter for Marth and Link. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 02, 2011, 07:29:43 PM True, and also not true. He is known for being epic, and also known for disappearing for months. Real life is more important after all, we don't get paid for this. I'm still having my hopes up about a very much needed rel porter for Marth and Link. (http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5110685/italians-make-as-much-sense-as-this-meme.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Socially-Awesome-Penguin) *Is meaning this in a good way* ;) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 07:31:20 PM Before you take that the wrong way Italion, after staring it down long enough I figured out he's talking about the part where you said we all have lives. Apparently that doesnt make sense.
EDIT: Oops, he edited his post. So my post is useless. BUt I stared at that pic for like a minute without blinking before I got the joke, so Im gonna leave this up here. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 07:42:18 PM What I meant with PW practically ditching Brawl hacking was this post here:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10771792#post10771792 And the fact that Dantarion got mad that his CSE code was posted here was that it wasn't even finished and therefor he didn't want it to be posted here. And the fact he can do practically anything on this site due to him hosting it Just saying, it's more likely that when PW posts progress on the modules, it will be months from where we are right now. *hopes to be proven wrong by PW* Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 02, 2011, 07:45:43 PM "Just saying, it's more likely that when PW posts progress on the modules, it will be months from where we are right now"
Of course, like Stalion said he's kinda known for leaving for months XD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 07:50:10 PM Meh, i'm very patient, i waited 5 months for a 2gb SD card so i can hack mah wii and brawl. and i waited 3 weeks after i heard of the first vertex hack. heck i'm still waiting to pop somethin. it's been about 17 years and still countin.
so why not pick up some of my patience; and flippin move on. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 02, 2011, 07:56:00 PM If you referred to me in your last sentence, I have all the patience in the world for PW to make any progress.
And for a lot of other stuff as well. So don't think I don't have patience. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 02, 2011, 07:57:18 PM Wasn't directed at you. directed at avery other inpatient little hyper bug.
no offence to any1, just sayin take a chill pill. and don't worry be happy. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 02, 2011, 09:35:37 PM What I meant with PW practically ditching Brawl hacking was this post here: [url]http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10771792#post10771792[/url] And the fact that Dantarion got mad that his CSE code was posted here was that it wasn't even finished and therefor he didn't want it to be posted here. And the fact he can do practically anything on this site due to him hosting it Just saying, it's more likely that when PW posts progress on the modules, it will be months from where we are right now. *hopes to be proven wrong by PW* He said that on 07-08-10 and he posted Ike's rel not too long ago in 2011, so he gave up on his idea of quitting permanently I assume. XD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 03, 2011, 10:24:44 AM Whats CSE exactly?
EDIT: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=22436.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=22436.0) If someone can contribute to this... the brawl hacking community will praise you for a while. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on April 03, 2011, 10:29:36 AM What's CSE exactly? EDIT: [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=22436.0[/url] ([url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=22436.0[/url]) If someone can contribute to this... the brawl hacking community will praise you for a while. CSE allows you to have new songs and sfx without replacing any. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=300069 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 03, 2011, 10:35:38 AM K, thanks.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ike123 on April 03, 2011, 10:39:01 AM does anybody have pal character rel files becaus the link is broken of the pal data portition
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 03, 2011, 10:55:26 AM does anybody have pal character rel files becaus the link is broken of the pal data portition this is not made yet it only for US Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 03, 2011, 11:46:18 AM this is not made yet it only for US He's asking for the ORIGINAL .rel files. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 03, 2011, 08:47:30 PM ...
Don't you think your link as a signature is not enough? Honestly, if you seek help I think you should use other means, and I don't take into consideration the fact that it is a port, so has nothing to do with the "clone engine system"... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 03, 2011, 09:04:44 PM K >.>
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 04, 2011, 01:09:53 AM PROBLEM: Marth can't go over just anyone.
FACT: Marth can go over Ike with no problems. FACT: Ike can go over almost anyone using the generic .REL file. SOLUTION: Port Marth over Ike, port Ike over [censored]ty character using the generic .REL file. I have a working Marth-soon-to-be-Roy over top of Ike right now. No glitches so far. Will post more soon. Get hyped. Edit: When I loaded up the newest Roy moveset ( http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=298053 ) and faced him against any character other than Marth, there are NO PROBLEMS! WHOOOOO! But, when I load him up and play against Marth, I can play normally, but... there is a sword glow coming out of his mouth. This did not happen when he was just normal Marth (before I changed him to Roy). Is there a reason? Does the moveset's .PAC do this for the old Roy, where it changed one of his sword glows to Issac's hair, and then attached it to his head? I am doing more testing, will keep you guys updated. Edit 2: Shrank that sword glow down to 0.01 the original size. You can no longer see it. Glitches solved. We have a working Marth over another character 100% port. Let me get all the info together, and then I'll release it. Edit 3: TO PUT ROY OVER IKE DO THE FOLLOWING: 1) Put these codes into your codeset: Code: File Patch Code v3.5.1 (NTSC-U) [Phantom Wings] 3) Extract that .RAR file into your "[SD CARD DRIVE LETTER HERE]:\private\wii\APP\RSBE\pf\" folder 4) Enjoy our boy over Ike! Bonus) For extra fun, follow the instructions that Phantom Wing posted to port Ike (a good character) over top of someone else! Credit: The Model for Roy is made by BeyondYou. The Recolors are made by TehSqueeMistro. The Moveset is made by Thany as well as others. Most of the documentation I followed in order to patch this module was by Dantarion. All other stuff? Me. I'm awesome. =P Now, if only Thany would make it so that Roy used external .BRSTM sound effects using the CSE v2.1... TO PORT A DIFFERENT MARTH PSA OVER TOP OF ROY RENAME ALL THE FILES TO FitIkeWhatever.PAC/PCS. EDIT 4: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/Oshtoby/al_110404_0459binout.jpg) Notice the two different standing animations. =D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on April 04, 2011, 05:14:14 AM I've a proposition :
Marth normal (Not port) With two SFX. Roy and Marth (put the Roy voice on a unused voice Marth). Roy in Olimar. He will loading the SFX of Marth with code. With PSA you can change the voice of Marth. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 04, 2011, 06:13:46 AM LulzRoy.
Will definitely use now. EDIT: Err, is the .rel you provided your own customized .rel or something? Following PW's guide doesn't help since your .rel doesn't even have anything at 0x01C248 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 06:49:53 AM After seeing the module through a hex editor, I have to say, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 04, 2011, 06:55:53 AM Yeah. I'm surprised you remembered where the character IDs were in that .rel, cause I didn't at the time.
Now the next step should be to investigate how PW got Ike's External GFX working better(Cloud's sword glow and other external GFX work fine regardless of Ike's existence in the match). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 06:59:29 AM It's Marth's .rel ported to work over Ike.
Basically, since it's not PW's generic .rel, it doesn't go along with the guide PW posted. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 04, 2011, 07:36:49 AM Ahh. Figured as much.
Will I have to search on my own then? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 04, 2011, 09:51:17 AM i got a idea instead post the .rel files in threads/posts why not just upload it to Vault :D (with codes in .txt files if needed the codes)
so ppl dont have to look for ages to find these .rel files + codes for them Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 04, 2011, 11:35:58 AM I want this to work over Jigglypuff.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 04, 2011, 01:24:16 PM I want this to work over Jigglypuff. Port this over Ike, and then port Ike over Jigglypuff.That's the whole point of this thing. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 01:27:17 PM Port this over Ike, and then port Ike over Jigglypuff. Or you could just skip the whole port over Ike part.That's the whole point of this thing. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on April 04, 2011, 01:40:33 PM so u managed to clone marth using ike's rel?
anyway, so u managed to properly cone marth?????? if so, sephiroth, prepare to return to brawl... :grin: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 04, 2011, 01:40:43 PM @ds22, post here a link to marfjigs because most of these people don't have it.
They're doing what's possible to them. I myself didn't download when Dant shared... otherwise I'd have posted it already. I don't care about the porting thing. For me, I'll be only happy when I get extra slots. There's no such thing as a character I'd replace. But I'd love either extra slots or more costumes. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 04, 2011, 01:41:46 PM Or you could just skip the whole port over Ike part. Well, I don't know if that'd work, purely because I'm too lazy to try it out. Marth is very picky about who he goes over. If someone ELSE wants to try patching the Marth .REL, here's how to do it.At the Address 0x3, put the .REL Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x14E8B, put the .REL Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x16F, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x237, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x18AF, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA507, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA56F, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA5CB, put the character Id of the character you're going over Go for it. Make sure to post your results here. so u managed to clone marth using ike's rel? No, that's not what I did at all. Reread my post. I ported Marth over top of Ike. That's all.anyway, so u managed to properly cone marth?????? if so, sephiroth, prepare to return to brawl... :grin: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 01:46:56 PM Actually, with Marth and it is way easier.
You only need these to get it working: Code: At the Address 0x16E, put the character Id of the character you're going over http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 04, 2011, 01:49:40 PM Actually, with Marth and Jiggz it is way easier. You only need these to get it working: Code: At the Address 0x16E, put the character Id of the character you're going over [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules[/url] Meh, I thought so, but I did the .REL ID just for good measure. Good to have a person with more knowledge than me on the topic confirm that. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 01:51:20 PM The .rel ID isn't needed since Marth's module doesn't contain any article data, and therefor doesn't need to be rebuilt to be patchable.
Jiggz goes the same way, but those 2 are the only ones. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 04, 2011, 01:51:52 PM I've gotten I have video, will be up and more info in this post soon! Module port or PSA port? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 04, 2011, 01:54:58 PM Could someone put up Marth's rel, then? *Is wanting to replace Jigglypuff with Marth*
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 04, 2011, 01:56:01 PM Could someone put up Marth's rel, then? Marth's .rel directly ripped from the disk.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 04, 2011, 02:47:21 PM I knew Oshtoby was a great-coder in the making, but i wouldve NEVER expected this. Congrats, and many thanks, man!
But... Actually, with Marth and it is way easier. You only need these to get it working: Code: At the Address 0x16E, put the character Id of the character you're going over [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules[/url] In HxD? I is confused here, can someone take a picture of there screen highlighting one of these offsets? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 04, 2011, 03:01:12 PM So by following these instructions. i can have a fully patchable marth?
i wonder if this will work over Olimar... well, i don't have the time to figure out all of this. can someone port marth over Olimar for me? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 04, 2011, 03:24:07 PM I knew Oshtoby was a great-coder in the making, but i wouldve NEVER expected this. Congrats, and many thanks, man! I'm not trying to be modest here, but all I did was follow some notes that Dantarion had on his Wiki. The .REL that I made is just a normal Marth .REL with the character IDs swapped. The only difference between me and the average user is that I understand what most of Dantarion's notes mean. It's not all just gobble-de-gook. Thank you for the appreciation, though.But... In HxD? I is confused here, can someone take a picture of there screen highlighting one of these offsets? I plan on getting a USBGecko, soon. We'll see what I can come up with then. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 04, 2011, 03:27:39 PM You know... Someone should really package up a Jigglypuff replacement pack... I would appreciate it greatly, since I want to use Roy, and Sephiroth... But already replaced Olimar with Cloud...
Eh, sorry for being dumb though... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on April 04, 2011, 03:37:20 PM Work on a pack of Roy over Ike. With CSP, CSS, Recolors fix and all.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 04, 2011, 05:08:46 PM @Oshtoby
But that "slight" advantage is what has me here playing Roy vs Marth vs Ike, and leaves me very gracious indeed ^_^ Still need help though >_> Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashHackers on April 05, 2011, 09:16:10 AM Damn got Marth over Diddy but it freezes if I end the match :( anyone know how to fix this?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 05, 2011, 03:46:04 PM Can someone edit ft_marth.rel to be compatible with snake?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 03:49:17 PM Can someone edit ft_marth.rel to be compatible with Jigglypuff? Or will it need to be one of PW's generic .rels?Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on April 05, 2011, 03:49:59 PM marth's original rel is generic ^^
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 03:54:03 PM Or will it need to be one of [color-red]PW[/color]'s generic .rels? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 05, 2011, 03:55:33 PM marth's original rel is generic ^^ Then I must be doing it wrong. Trying to put Marth over Diddy or Game & Watch freezes after the match ends. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on April 05, 2011, 03:57:22 PM im telling u that u download the ORIGINAL rel, cuz marth doesnt have articles, so the only thing to change are the IDs, just like PW's generic ike rel... Then I must be doing it wrong. Trying to put Marth over Diddy or Game & Watch freezes after the match ends. did u swap the IDs correctly?Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on April 05, 2011, 04:23:03 PM Roy over Ike (Clone Engine) is released :
(http://i53.tinypic.com/2d9uule.jpg) http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=17981 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=17981) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 04:28:51 PM Could anybody explain me how to make the Soundbank work?
I mean, I'd like to have Yoshi with Marth's Sound Bank, how would I make the XX* 0x04 thing? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 04:30:48 PM im telling u that u download the ORIGINAL rel, cuz marth doesnt have articles, so the only thing to change are the IDs, just like PW's generic ike rel... So I can have a glitch free Marth over Jiggly?Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 04:35:16 PM Marth is picky about who he goes over. I do not think this is fixable for now. Only two confirmed ones that he can go over is Ike and Yoshi. If someone would like to just go through all the characters, and just test Marth's .REL over top of them all, it'd be appreciated.
When I get home tonight, I am going to sit there with Ike's real .REL in one hex editor window, and Ike's generic .REL in the other, and just makes notes of comparing the two. I want to know what the heck he did in order to make Ike work. I'M AIMING FOR YOU, NEXT, MEWTWO. Or, if you're reading this, PhantomWings, you could PM me, and let me be your apprentice =D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 04:38:54 PM Marth is picky about who he goes over. I do not think this is fixable for now. Only two confirmed ones that he can go over is Ike and Yoshi. If someone would like to just go through all the characters, and just test Marth's .REL over top of them all, it'd be appreciated. Well, you know how KTH uploaded Roy over ft_Ike.rel? Well, can you edit that ft_Ike.rel for that ft_ike.rel to go over Jigglypuff? Thank you if you do.When I get home tonight, I am going to sit there with Ike's real .REL in one hex editor window, and Ike's generic .REL in the other, and just makes notes of comparing the two. I want to know what the heck he did in order to make Ike work. I'M LOOKING AT YOU, MEWTWO. Or, if you're reading this, PhantomWings, you could PM me, and let me be your apprentice =D Good luck with your things/notes on this. ;) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 04:40:01 PM Well, you know how KTH uploaded Roy over ft_Ike.rel? Well, can you edit that ft_Ike.rel for that ft_ike.rel to go over Jigglypuff? Thank you if you do. You do it. I've given out the instructions, with the exact hex addresses and what you have to change several times in here. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and it might inspire him to be the next PhantomWings.Good luck with your things/notes on this. ;) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 04:51:30 PM EDIT: I plan on getting a USBGecko, soon. We'll see what I can come up with then. Hm...I have a USB Gecko.(I bought it in 2008) I wonder what I can do with it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 05:01:13 PM If someone ELSE wants to try patching the Marth .REL, here's how to do it. At the Address 0x16F, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x237, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0x18AF, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA507, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA56F, put the character Id of the character you're going over At the Address 0xA5CB, put the character Id of the character you're going over Go for it. Make sure to post your results here. IDs are located here: http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules Since you're looking for Jigglypuff, that would be under Purin on that page, and the ID would be 25 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 05:15:10 PM IDs are located here: [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules[/url] Since you're looking for Jigglypuff, that would be under Purin on that page, and the ID would be 25 Alright, thanks! ;D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 05, 2011, 05:24:39 PM I dont get it, can someone take a screenshot of x16E highlighted in HxD?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on April 05, 2011, 05:31:59 PM I dont get it, can someone take a screenshot of x16E highlighted in HxD? Change the 11 found at offset 16E (and all the other offsets) to the number of the ID of the character you want Marth over. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 05, 2011, 05:39:26 PM Ok, where on the picture in 16E?
http://img824.imageshack.us/i/93450285.jpg/ Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Beyond on April 05, 2011, 05:44:11 PM Ok, where on the picture in 16E? [url]http://img824.imageshack.us/i/93450285.jpg/[/url] Looks to me like you're using Oshtobys pre-edited .rel instead of a clean Marth .rel. (http://i.imgur.com/xQK9Y.png) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 05, 2011, 05:45:42 PM Thank you! Kinda odd how your the only one who helps me out on these kinda things >_>
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 05:50:40 PM I was about to, when I realized I gave you the wrong first address! Sorry, I feel like an ass now. It's not 0x16E, it's 0x16F. Sorry. I'll show you exactly what to do to find addresses in a moment, using a picture.
EDIT: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/Oshtoby/checkcheckityeah.png) You want to find 0x16F? You go to the 00000160 row, and look in the 0F column, to get 16F. All hex is is a numbering system that goes from 0-15 instead of 0-9, with 10-15 being represented by A-F. This was developed in computers as a shorter way to write bytes, which are written by ON/OFFs, also known as binary. Binary is ALSO a numbering system, ranging from 0-1. 01 binary equals 1. 10 binary equals 2. 11 binary equals 3. 100 equals 4. 101 equals 5. 110 equals 6. 111 equals 7. 1000 comes next, and it equals 8. That goes all the way up to 255, as far as a computer is concerned, because a byte is eight slots. 11111111 binary is 255 in decimal (which is the 0-9 numbering system). Now, take this into account: FF in hex is ALSO 255 in decimal. FF is much easier to write than 11111111 is it not? Hex is basically computer talk (binary) short-hand. What you're looking for is a specific byte (the character ID) in a sea of bytes. Each byte in that file, which composes that file, has an address. Most hex editors are formatted to be able to find bytes at a given address easier. Not all, but most. And I hope that's helped someone out there. guarantee it hasn't. These are the rantings of a mad man. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 05, 2011, 05:51:31 PM OsoheCastle boy, you should port it over a character that's unwanted, not Ike.
Jigglypuff, ROB, Mr. Game & Watch. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 06:05:33 PM OsoheCastle boy, you should port it over a character that's unwanted, not Ike. I put it over Ike, with the intent of putting IKE over someone else. Ike is easy to port of anyone else. Marth is not.Jigglypuff, ROB, Mr. Game & Watch. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 06:12:47 PM Looks to me like you're using Oshtobys pre-edited .rel instead of a clean Marth .rel. ([url]http://i.imgur.com/xQK9Y.png[/url]) Yeah, isn't that 16F? He wanted 16E. (00) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 06:13:36 PM Yeah, isn't that 16F? No no no, I messed up. It's 16F. 16F is correct. Sorry.He wanted 16E. (00) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 06:15:58 PM No no no, I messed up. It's 16F. 16F is correct. Sorry. Oh ok.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 05, 2011, 06:28:45 PM I have to say, this is quite a accomplishment. I can see how similar the offsets are to Dantarion's notes, though I must ask, how did you know to go to 16F when the notes say 16C?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 06:37:48 PM I have to say, this is quite a accomplishment. I can see how similar the offsets are to Dantarion's notes, though I must ask, how did you know to go to 16F when the notes say 16C? (I just patched it all)Well I noticed that each offset value was "22" so I just had to make it "25" to go over Jigglypuff. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 06:39:56 PM I have to say, this is quite a accomplishment. I can see how similar the offsets are to Dantarion's notes, though I must ask, how did you know to go to 16F when the notes say 16C? Patterns with the other .REL's, and their values that are also in Dantarion's notes.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 07:02:57 PM So I followed your directions, Oshtoby.
Here's what should be the Marth(Roy) over Ike which is modified to be like PW's ft_ike.rel(which is saying this .rel can go over anyone) changed to be over Jigglypuff ft_purin.rel: http://www.mediafire.com/?71axwbbi86s376o Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 07:05:54 PM So I followed your directions, Oshtoby. Here's what should be the Marth(Roy) over Ike which is modified to be like PW's ft_ike.rel(which is saying this .rel can go over anyone) changed to be over Jigglypuff ft_purin.rel: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?71axwbbi86s376o[/url] And have you tested it? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 07:17:44 PM Wait, wouldn't I have to have the codes:
"Jigglypuff has Ike's IC Constant"s instead of "Ike has Marth IC Constants"? Same for "Ike uses Marth's Sound Bank" Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 07:24:53 PM Wait, wouldn't I have to have the codes: You're replacing Jiggs? The soundbank won't matter, he just won't make sound. To test it WITHOUT the codes, don't jump and don't punch. Just end the match immediately (by pressing start and exiting the match) and see if the game doesn't freeze. If it doesn't freeze, congrats, it SHOULD work perfectly with the codes."Jigglypuff has Ike's IC Constant"s instead of "Ike has Marth IC Constants"? Same for "Ike uses Marth's Sound Bank" Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 07:26:06 PM You're replacing Jiggs? The soundbank won't matter, he just won't make sound. To test it WITHOUT the codes, don't jump and don't punch. Just end the match immediately (by pressing start and exiting the match) and see if the game doesn't freeze. If it doesn't freeze, congrats, it SHOULD work perfectly with the codes. Oh nvm, I just re-re-read it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 07:36:20 PM Ok, I just tested it in-game. It freezes when I exit the match. :(
When it said "3, 2, 1 Go!" I immediately did the "No Contest" button exit thing. Then it froze. I can see Roy in the match though. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 07:43:21 PM Ok, I just tested it in-game. It freezes when I exit the match. :( Jigglypuff confirmed for not working, then.When it said "3, 2, 1 Go!" I immediately did the "No Contest" button exit thing. Then it froze. I can see Roy in the match though. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 07:51:06 PM Jigglypuff confirmed for not working, then. Yup. :\Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 05, 2011, 08:10:35 PM :oshi:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 05, 2011, 08:32:18 PM Stupid Jigglypuff!
There's always some issue with her, like the imported hats. I do remember someone saying something about them having to have the same number of slots, including the original. For example, Ike and Olimar both have 6, same with Mr. Game & Watch and ROB, and Ice Climbers. Jigglypuff only has 5 slots. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 08:37:41 PM To everyone complaining that Marth can't go over whatever character:
Okay, I'm going to type this out as thorough as I can. This goes for almost ANY character. Take my Marth-over-Ike pack Use it. Now leave my pack alone, the rest of these instructions have nothing to do with my pack. Take Ike's generic .REL, which can be attained in the OP of this thread. Make the hex changes in it to put it over a [censored]y character (in this case, Jigglypuff) Put that .REL in your "modules" folder, replacing the sucky character with Ike. Take all of Ike's Files off of the disc. Rename them from FitIke.PAC and the like to Fit[INSERT CHARACTER YOU'RE REPLACING HERE].PAC (FitPurin.PAC in this case) Put them in that respective character's folder on your SD card Now, select Marth to play as Marth. Select Ike to play as Roy. Select the [censored]ty character (like Jigglypuff in this case) to play as Ike. Now, the [censored]ty character (Jigglypuff in this case) is out, and NOT able to be played as. Ike is STILL able to be played as Roy is able to be played as Marth is able to be played as Simple little bandage on the situation. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 08:42:01 PM To everyone complaining that Marth can't go over whatever character: Okay, I'm going to type this out as thorough as I can. This goes for almost ANY character. Take my Marth-over-Ike pack Use it. Now leave my pack alone, the rest of these instructions have nothing to do with my pack. Take Ike's generic .REL, which can be attained in the OP of this thread. Make the hex changes in it to put it over a [censored]y character (in this case, Jigglypuff) Put that .REL in your "modules" folder, replacing the sucky character with Ike. Take all of Ike's Files off of the disc. Rename them from FitIke.PAC and the like to Fit[INSERT CHARACTER YOU'RE REPLACING HERE].PAC (FitPurin.PAC in this case) Put them in that respective character's folder on your SD card Now, select Marth to play as Marth. Select Ike to play as Roy. Select the [censored]ty character (like Jigglypuff in this case) to play as Ike. Now, the [censored]ty character (Jigglypuff in this case) is out, and NOT able to be played as. Ike is STILL able to be played as Roy is able to be played as Marth is able to be played as Simple little bandage on the situation. Problem is, most people don't feel like totally changing every Ike portrait/name for Marth's one to then go and change another character's names for Ike's, it'd be simplier to just replace Marth directly. XDD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashHackers on April 05, 2011, 08:47:57 PM Confirmation: Marth will not work over Fox. And Im getting so mad with this! Put Roy over Yoshi (With the code) and it freezes when I crouch!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 05, 2011, 09:10:43 PM Problem is, most people don't feel like totally changing every Ike portrait/name for Marth's one to then go and change another character's names for Ike's, it'd be simplier to just replace Marth directly. XDD Exactly. But I guess I'll have to do that.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 09:26:27 PM Could anybody explain me how to make the Soundbank work? I mean, I'd like to have Yoshi with Marth's Sound Bank, how would I make the XX* 0x04 thing? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 05, 2011, 09:34:46 PM Well, most people have Ike and Cloud/Gayruto over either Olimar and Mr. game & Watch.
Then Marth/Roy over well Marth/Roy and Sephiroth over Jigglypuff, Mr. GW, IC, and ROB. The point is to replace [censored]ty characters with epic characters. I don't see the point of replacing someone epic with someone epic, makes no sense to me. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 09:40:52 PM Well, most people have Ike and Cloud/Gayruto over either Olimar and Mr. game & Watch. Then Marth/Roy over well Marth/Roy and Sephiroth over Jigglypuff, Mr. GW, IC, and ROB. The point is to replace [censored]ty characters with epic characters. I don't see the point of replacing someone epic with someone epic, makes no sense to me. Oshtoby wants everyone to replace Marth with Ike, and port Ike to anyone else since Ike's .Rel can be ported over anybody, unlike Marth's. He's proposing that as a fix for replacing Jiggs with Ike and have Marth over Ike's original slot, in the end, it'd be the same, but it'd be tedious for me... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 05, 2011, 09:56:36 PM As Dantarion would say
I HATE THIS THREAD And it's all your fault Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 05, 2011, 10:00:28 PM As Dantarion would say I'm sorry, BeyondBoobies. I feel this is my fault. I hate this thread, too.I HATE THIS THREAD And it's all your fault Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on April 05, 2011, 10:14:36 PM You mistook me but yeah lol
Not YOUR fault though Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 05, 2011, 10:24:19 PM Can you port Ike over two different characters?
I see what you're saying now: Let's say regular Ike over Olimar. Cloud over Mr. Game & Watch. Roy over Marth Sephiroth over Ike. Tedious brainf*cking work is tedious. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 10:36:19 PM Can you port Ike over two different characters? I see what you're saying now: Let's say regular Ike over Olimar. Cloud over Mr. Game & Watch. Roy over Marth Sephiroth over Ike. Tedious brainf*cking work is tedious. Yep, something like that. but you took off Marth doing that XD, instead, Roy over Yoshi (Since there's a .REL working to replace Yoshi) and Marth as Marth. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 05, 2011, 11:25:35 PM Yep, something like that. but you took off Marth doing that XD, instead, Roy over Yoshi (Since there's a .REL working to replace Yoshi) and Marth as Marth. Well I dislike Martha, so that was done on purpose. Yoshi is a winner in my book. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 05, 2011, 11:29:36 PM Well I dislike Martha, so that was done on purpose. Yoshi is a winner in my book. Well, that's another thing. XD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 06, 2011, 05:19:39 AM Roy over Pit works with the IC constant code.....I'll post the .rel later, too lazy to do it now XD
As Dantarion would say ??? He hate's it for having the users finally doing something on their own now?I HATE THIS THREAD And it's all your fault Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 06, 2011, 06:12:39 AM Dantarion would hate this thread for many reasons (like the fact that most of you don't even know how to edit something in a hex editor and the fact PW didn't contact Dantarion about the module patching).
Heck, I could patch a Marth module over DK as easy as writing this message. And I could do this ever since Dantarion first posted the Jiggz over Marth pack. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 06, 2011, 06:25:47 AM You know, Oshtoby. I had that idea, but thought that others may find the process much too tedious to do.
It's the only method I can think of that can successfully work though. Dantarion would hate this thread for many reasons (like the fact that most of you don't even know how to edit something in a hex editor and the fact PW didn't contact Dantarion about the module patching). Heck, I could patch a Marth module over DK as easy as writing this message. And I could do this ever since Dantarion first posted the Jiggz over Marth pack. Oh come on. I'm sure a lot of people know how to "patch" modules. Just change a few no. at the given address. It's not that hard. I think some don't even try because their overwhelmed by the sheer amount of no. glaring at them. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 06, 2011, 07:05:45 AM http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules#MARTH
See those addresses? Pretty much the same as the ones Oshtoby posted. Wiki page was created on September 28th 2010 and last edited October 4th 2010. Oshtoby posted his findings April 4th 2011. It has been around 7 months before one of you even figured out how to patch Marth's module, yet it was available all that time already. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 06, 2011, 07:10:57 AM To be fair, during the time, we really had no need to; there weren't that many great Marth PSA's back then (at least, that's my reason).
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on April 06, 2011, 09:37:28 AM As Dantarion would say I HATE THIS THREAD And it's all your fault I'm sorry, Br3compactor. I feel this is my fault. I hate this thread, too. Fixed.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 06, 2011, 12:04:32 PM can someone make a package in Vault for all these .rel XXXX over XXXX char. with codes if needed codes
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 06, 2011, 12:34:50 PM I need the soundbank code for ROB and Yoshi, can someone provide it?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on April 06, 2011, 12:36:27 PM :srs: ly? Make the codes yourself for once...it's not like it's diffcult.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 06, 2011, 12:38:53 PM Nevermind >.>
It explains on the first page. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Akiba Red on April 06, 2011, 12:39:19 PM Go back a couple pages...I'd quote but I can't..
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on April 06, 2011, 01:00:57 PM Oh Oshtoby... I found a glitch with Roy....
When you do AAA, Roy is locked on T-Pose :/ Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 06, 2011, 02:13:33 PM That's because Roy is only supposed to have 1 Jab.
Remember to change the IC-constants when you port people. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 06, 2011, 03:57:14 PM I treid using this:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=17981 With this: http://download683.mediafire.com/dsatkxa7xxgg/d66g6o1555992rv/ft_wolf.rel and it froze. Someone help PLEASE ;-: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 06, 2011, 04:10:01 PM [url]http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules#MARTH[/url] See those addresses? Pretty much the same as the ones Oshtoby posted. Wiki page was created on September 28th 2010 and last edited October 4th 2010. Oshtoby posted his findings April 4th 2011. It has been around 7 months before one of you even figured out how to patch Marth's module, yet it was available all that time already. Well, in my defense, I knew you COULD do it, I just never did it since I hadn't been motivated. The only reason I made the Marth .REL over Ike when I did was because a perfect Melee-type Roy model came out, and I wanted to use it. This is why I said that I really didn't do anything. I just used Dantarion's notes (exactly the ones you posted). If nothing else, this experience has left me feeling a little different about the Project M team. I do not think you're snoody anymore. I posted one simple thing, and it cause a whole slew of "I DIDN'T READ ANYTHING YOU WROTE, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT" comments. I fully understand you guys not posting every detail about your discoveries, and how to replicate them. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 06, 2011, 04:32:22 PM Well, in my defense, I knew you COULD do it, I just never did it since I hadn't been motivated. The only reason I made the Marth .REL over Ike when I did was because a perfect Melee-type Roy model came out, and I wanted to use it. This is why I said that I really didn't do anything. I just used Dantarion's notes (exactly the ones you posted). Thank you for your understanding.If nothing else, this experience has left me feeling a little different about the Project M team. I do not think you're snoody anymore. I posted one simple thing, and it cause a whole slew of "I DIDN'T READ ANYTHING YOU WROTE, BUT I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT" comments. I fully understand you guys not posting every detail about your discoveries, and how to replicate them. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 06, 2011, 04:48:15 PM Heeeeello? PLEASE someone tell me What Im doing wrong
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Oshtoby on April 06, 2011, 04:52:40 PM Heeeeello? PLEASE someone tell me What Im doing wrong Just following the instructions I gave, the normal Marth .REL doesn't work over Wolf, Jigglypuff, Fox, Diddy Kong, nor Game & Watch. There are most likely more characters that won't work, but they've yet to be tested.It DOES work on Marth (duh), Ike, Yoshi, Ness, Rob, and possibly more, but untested, characters. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 06, 2011, 05:46:13 PM Lol... I'm fed up with this thread...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DJ Lowgey on April 07, 2011, 12:41:28 PM I want Marth, Ike and Roy in Brawl, is there someone who can Roy port over ROB or Mr. Game and Watch?
And Can Ray have the sounds from ROB? - So I can edit it to Roy sounds. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 07, 2011, 12:53:28 PM Just download the Sephiroth over ROB pack and take the ft_robot.rel and remove all the FitRobot.PAC and such files out EXCEPT the ft_robot.rel. Then download the Roy PSA in the vault (any one you like) and rename all the files from FitMarth to FitRobot.
And make sure you put the code given in the description. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 07, 2011, 01:01:01 PM I did that with the Ness.rel.
it's not hard honestly, i was able to patch my own Ness module after looking at the prefmodified one and an untouched one. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on April 07, 2011, 01:48:07 PM u mean u cloned ness or that u cloned marth over ness?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashHackers on April 07, 2011, 11:30:49 PM I have Roy over Yoshi and Marth over Rob. New glitch discovered: If two Marth guys crouch at the same time it freezes
EDIT: Nope just freezes randomely while crouching occasionally Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 08, 2011, 01:02:38 AM For anyone who has Sephiroth over R.O.B and wants him to have a Soundbank, since the one on the BV link doesn't include one, here:
R.O.B uses Marths Sound Bank 4A000000 80AD89E0 1400008C 00000013 E0000000 80008000 Figured it out myself after reading Phantom Wings and Kaze Koyote's posts. Easy [censored] if you actually take the time to read it. Thanks to Beyond for the help ;) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DJ Lowgey on April 08, 2011, 02:00:45 AM If rob have Marth´s Sound IDs have my Roy (Over Rob) the same Voice like Marth?
Roy should have his own voice like in Melee Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 08, 2011, 02:25:45 AM Your answer lies in a clone engine topic, on the first page, seek for yourself, because it is not so complicated to find it, I won't say anything more...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on April 08, 2011, 02:50:23 AM A Sonic clone engine anytime soon? Like having shadow over marth?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 08, 2011, 03:46:12 AM Pff... It's annoying...
If you want a shadow over Marth, seek in brawlvault there is one. And about a clone engine for Sonic, IT WILL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE, these big letters are not because I'm furious but here for insistance. So stop asking clones of a certain character, they will do the one they want, and they will do it when they want and can, it is with questions like this that they must be fed up with this topic, and I fully understand them... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 08, 2011, 04:22:41 AM Pff... It's annoying... there is a shadow over Dk. with voices so not really needed a .rel for sonic (yet)If you want a shadow over Marth, seek in brawlvault there is one. And about a clone engine for Sonic, IT WILL BE DONE WHEN IT'S DONE, these big letters are not because I'm furious but here for insistance. So stop asking clones of a certain character, they will do the one they want, and they will do it when they want and can, it is with questions like this that they must be fed up with this topic, and I fully understand them... and shadow over marth will be fixed and shadow over Ike also will be made in the future Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on April 08, 2011, 05:52:29 AM Patience is a virtue.
>_> We should start packing it as a registration bonus to these forums, 'cause from what I'm seein', not a lot of people use it or know what it is... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 08, 2011, 07:29:05 AM WUZ ZIS "Patience" U SPEEKZ UV.
No but seriously, if people can't read the front page, or keep asking if it's done... GTFO. If my tolerance is wearing thin from seeing all of this crap, I have to feel really bad for Dantarion, who must go under stuff like this the most (unless he spends more time in the Backroom...). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 08, 2011, 09:10:29 PM Updated Marth compability:
Marth over Yoshi: Full Pass Marth over Ness: Full pass Marth over R.O.B.: Partial pass because I'm using DivineOverlord's PSA and some of the animations are messed up, although no freeze Marth over Fox: Freezes at end of match Marth over Wolf: Freezes at SSS screen Marth over Peach: Freezes at end of match Marth over Snake: Freezes at end of match Marth over Jiggs: Freezes at end of match Marth over Diddy: Freezes Marth over Luigi: Freezes at end of match Marth over ToonLink: Freezes at end of match Marth over Mario: Untested Marth over Kirby: Freezes at end of match Marth over G&W: Freezes at end of match Marth over Olimar: Untested Marth over Squirtle: Freezes at SSS screen Marth over Ice Climbers : Freezes at SSS screen Marth over WArio: Untested, but most probable freeze Correct me if I am wrong Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 08, 2011, 11:55:33 PM Marth over R.O.B.: Partial pass because I'm using DivineOverlord's PSA and some of the animations are messed up, although no freeze Well I'm using TheCloudPSAIsGodly's Sephiroth's PSA which is much better IMO and no freezing at all for me. I tried fighting many people, no crouching freeze, nothing. It works great like a charm, and highly reccomend it. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 10, 2011, 11:00:29 AM who clone engine? I never heard of it.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on April 10, 2011, 01:10:36 PM who clone engine? I never heard of it. It's a code an .rel for have a clone of a character on another, that it's for have exemple 2 Ike. Example : Naruto and Cloud. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: nanobuds on April 10, 2011, 02:53:59 PM I just tried Roy over ness and only had 1 problem:
The AAA combo causes him to enter a T-Pose, but doesnt crash the game. When attacked while in the T-Pose, roy returns to normal game-play. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 10, 2011, 05:18:20 PM It's a code an .rel for have a clone of a character on another, that it's for have exemple 2 Ike. Example : Naruto and Cloud. who is .rel? I never heard of it. I'm just new in hacks. But I can make items PSA as ice flower. http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=21790.0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on April 10, 2011, 05:53:42 PM who clone engine? I never heard of it. I demand this be a forum-wide memeTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: RevengeHunter on April 10, 2011, 06:24:19 PM I demand this be a forum-wide meme I can help with that.EDIT: Sigged! Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 10, 2011, 10:24:30 PM Now I understand about clone engine and .rel. But about Mario's.rel and
Mario can cloned? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on April 10, 2011, 10:25:39 PM not yet(i hope soon i want a good DR. Mario and not buggy as mine Dr. Mario over Ike+normal mario at same time)
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 10, 2011, 10:52:40 PM not yet(i hope soon i want a good DR. Mario and not buggy as mine Dr. Mario over Ike+normal mario at same time) Me too for good DR. Mario. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 13, 2011, 01:46:13 PM I wondered something, it can be idiot at first glance but still, I prefer asking it. In fact, it seems Marth can be ported now over an other character, but I wanted to know, if Marth can be ported on Zelda, and I'm specific it is for Zelda, but keep the transformation move that Zelda has? Because, I tried to port Marth on Sheik using brawlbox, and it worked, but not on Zelda... Thank you for your answer and sorry if it annoys you! :laugh:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 13, 2011, 04:33:49 PM Anyone want Module Editor?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 14, 2011, 06:05:26 PM Post the link diedhammer
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 14, 2011, 06:50:13 PM It made by Phantom Wings. I have NO idea how use it.
http://www.mediafire.com/?4ni3pacdnj4peo0 Yeah. He made a newer version a month ago. [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?bdfe1od2m1aj99o[/url] Thankfully it can open sora_adv_stage.rel....... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on April 14, 2011, 06:54:21 PM i have no idea. i really wanna know how to use it...port sonic over r.o.b., and have sonic vs shadow
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: diedhammer98 on April 16, 2011, 10:35:19 AM Module Editor is useful?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 11:55:37 AM He, an interesting yet late idea, I have just discovered.
I in the Subspace Emissary (it never loads any .rel, therefore can't use Seph over Yoshi ect). But that's when I came across Mario (Had FFVII Cloud over him), and it worked flawlessly in Subspace WITHOUT ANY .REL. I didn't even put the codes and it still worked flawlessly :P Too bad I didn't discover this earlier before PW had release his Generic .rel. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 22, 2011, 12:22:55 PM Yet Naruto over Pikmin works flawless in the SSE with a .rel.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 02:08:25 PM SSE doesn't load .rel's. They always freeze when loading.
Although I'm going to try my Olimar port to see if it actually works in SSE. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 22, 2011, 02:47:16 PM I know Naruto over Olimar works in SSE.
Character modules are ALWAYS loaded when a character is selected (I.E. Lucario's module when Lucario is selected and Ike's module when Ike is selected), regardless of which mode is selected. If a patched .rel doesn't load, it is badly patched. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on April 22, 2011, 03:25:39 PM I can also assure you that .rels work perfectly in SSE.
Narumar works perfectly. Actually, so do Sephiroth and Roy, who, while not working in regular VS mode, work perfectly in SSE (I have them swapped over G&W and Diddy). Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 04:18:43 PM Then why do my ports all fail except Mario frezes!?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 22, 2011, 04:20:51 PM Maybe the file size limit.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 04:30:47 PM What file size limit?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 22, 2011, 04:50:39 PM Don't remember, but Cloud over ROB, Gray Fox, Mega Man, Lyn, Shadow, Roy, and Zero work perfectly in SSE, especially when you port the attributes.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 04:52:14 PM By ports I meant .rel ports, not the other kind.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 22, 2011, 04:57:28 PM Cloud over ROB is a .rel port, with an extra code.
The others are just proof that custom PSAs work. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on April 22, 2011, 05:01:34 PM .rel ports ain't working in SSE for me. Anyone got any suggestions in how to fix this?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 22, 2011, 05:10:37 PM Maybe check your codeset??
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on April 22, 2011, 05:57:13 PM any 1 have want to try to port captain falcon?
i want viewtiful joe. but i don't jiggly puff or some other character equivelant. also, .REL is always loaded for everysingle character. i cannot see how it is not loaded in SSE. for the .REL is the character truly in itself, or how he or she is loaded. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on April 22, 2011, 06:04:19 PM EternalYoshi, have you tried making rel ports for Metaknight and Link lately?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 23, 2011, 08:19:13 AM Yes I have, and I need to patch the articles somehow.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on April 23, 2011, 08:23:25 AM Is there any .rel for mario and/or sonic? i think i heard there was, but im not sure.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 23, 2011, 08:26:35 AM Not yet.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on April 23, 2011, 08:27:33 AM ah. i also heare marth adn jiggly got magical rels also/ is that false also?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on April 23, 2011, 08:50:10 AM Marth and Jiggz don't have any article data.
Therefor they are already patchable for use. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on April 23, 2011, 08:55:00 AM I wonder, though, why is Ike portable to everyone but Marth isn't?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 23, 2011, 08:58:53 AM Is Ike really able to be ported on all characters... I wonder honestly... I wonder if he can be ported on characters like Sheik, Zelda, or Samus who are "transforming" characters at different degree, as Ike and these characters don't have the same type of module at all...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SSJCerious on April 23, 2011, 09:00:39 AM I wonder, though, why is Ike portable to everyone but Marth isn't? Becuase Ike's generic rel has been patched specially so It can do that, Marth's hasnt.Is Ike really able to be ported on all characters... I wonder honestly... I wonder if he can be ported on characters like Sheik, Zelda, or Samus who are "transforming" characters at different degree, as Ike and these characters don't have the same type of module at all... *facepalm*Its been said multiple times he CANT be ported to transforming characters. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on April 23, 2011, 09:03:31 AM is there any rel file working for Pal users? probably not but i dont lose anything by asking
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on April 23, 2011, 09:06:27 AM SSJCerious: Sorry but I didn't knew it for sure, but I was right when I said that even Ike couldn't be ported over all characters in fact.
Anyway, pedro702: No, there is no rel file for Pal user unfortunately... To make use of this, you're forced to have the Us version, sorry for you... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on April 23, 2011, 09:12:17 AM Marth and Jiggz don't have any article data. Therefor they are already patchable for use. what? they can already be ported? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: JediKnightTemplar on April 23, 2011, 12:05:33 PM Marth and Jiggz don't have any article data. Therefor they are already patchable for use. EDIT: Okay, nevermind. After actually looking at the thread a little bit i saw Oshtoby's psot and decided I'll just take the time to put all of Ike's files over Jiggs. I just hope I don't exceed the file size limit for the common5.pac. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on April 23, 2011, 02:10:39 PM You need to change her IC-constants to match Marth.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 02, 2011, 12:07:22 AM I...Have a few questions about this, I hope I'm getting the hang of it, but...
1. For making a .rel file to port Ike, it says that one of the things I need to edit is at [0x01C248], but the digit that corresponds to Ike was found at [0x01C24B]. Do I just need to edit what's on that line in Hex editor? (The instructions from the download for the generic module didn't quite match up for that one part) I just want to be certain about this, I'm bad with computers and I worry that one wrong digit will be catastrophic. 2. In regards to porting an Ike over the Ice Climbers...Well, seeing as we have Popo and Nana, how difficult would that be? Any extra steps need to be taken? 3. I didn't see it on the OP, but is which digits need to be edited to give the Ike-port 3 jabs?(The character digits. I've only seen the code for Ike over Olimar and G&W, with no idea what to change the digits to for ports on anyone else...) 4. Erm...Rob over Ike...I've only seen these two codes for porting him; Rob has Ike's Sound Bank 4A000000 80AD89E0 1400008C 00000020 E0000000 80008000 Rob has Ike's ...Something: 4A000000 80B27AC0 14000000 80914B5C E0000000 80008000 Is...That all that's needed? What about a 3-jab code for him? EDIT You can respond via PM if need be Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 02, 2011, 01:13:06 AM 1. 1 wrong Digit WILL be catastrophic. Edit the digit that corresponds to Ike in that situation.
0x12C4B IS where the character ID is so go ahead. 2. Ice Climbers are unique and I seriously doubt that porting him on them will load. 4. Because ROB has a unique.... method, you cannot mix ROB with a IC-constant code and the required codes or the game will freeze. You will just have to make a quick fix in the PSA. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: orphaned on May 02, 2011, 12:22:02 PM Hey guys, I was hoping someone could help me out with some problems I've run into with cloning Ike over Olimar. I'm running brawl- so I'm not sure if that is why it won't work but I downloaded all of the Ike files from the resources page, renamed them to the appropriate pikmin file names and put them into olimar's folder. Then I put the fit pikmin .rel into modules. I'm trying to run Naruto over Ike and then use Olimar to play normal Ike, but everytime Ike loads into a match it crashes on his entrance animation. Can anyone help me out with this?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SiLeNtDo0m on May 02, 2011, 12:26:31 PM Hey guys, I was hoping someone could help me out with some problems I've run into with cloning Ike over Olimar. I'm running brawl- so I'm not sure if that is why it won't work but I downloaded all of the Ike files from the resources page, renamed them to the appropriate pikmin file names and put them into olimar's folder. Then I put the fit pikmin .rel into modules. I'm trying to run Naruto over Ike and then use Olimar to play normal Ike, but everytime Ike loads into a match it crashes on his entrance animation. Can anyone help me out with this? You need to use the codes included. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: orphaned on May 02, 2011, 02:00:46 PM Thank you! I was using the IC constant code but forgot the usage storage engine >_<.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 03, 2011, 12:42:20 AM anyway got afew soundback Codes ?
i needing DK. has Sonic´s soundback code so SFX is on my ShadowKong too(voices will still not be Sonic´s :D since SFX IDs for them use DK´s SFX ID) and needing Olimar has Mario´s soundback so Dr. mario over Ike over Olimar got Mario´s SFX/voices and same for Ike Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on May 03, 2011, 06:07:41 AM anyway got afew soundback Codes ? i needing DK. has Sonic´s soundback code so SFX is on my ShadowKong too(voices will still not be Sonic´s :D since SFX IDs for them use DK´s SFX ID) and needing Olimar has Mario´s soundback so Dr. mario over Ike over Olimar got Mario´s SFX/voices and same for Ike if ur shadowkong uses donkey kong's IDs, the soundbanks code wont work at all, u'll have to make a sfx hex pack for DK with shadow's sounds... (matching DK's ID's of course) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 03, 2011, 06:17:27 AM if ur shadowkong uses donkey kong's IDs, the soundbanks code wont work at all, u'll have to make a sfx hex pack for DK with shadow's sounds... (matching DK's ID's of course) it will work so ShadowKong get Sonic´s SFXs it only his Voices that use Dk´s SFX IDs Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on May 03, 2011, 10:19:30 AM No new with Clone Engine?
Wait for Mario port... (Dr.Mario) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 03, 2011, 10:27:19 AM yeah and a luigi too :D (Luigi+Silver+Kid goku import)
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 03, 2011, 10:31:08 AM i got a question about the roy over ike clone engine hack even though a code came with it for him to have marths sound bank if i was too make a roy sound pack for ike would it also replace marths sounds? i may sound like a noob
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on May 03, 2011, 05:24:23 PM I'd rather see a Link Clone Engine, rather than a Mario one to be honest.
Mario and Doctor Mario aren't that much different. While Link, Zero, and Lyn are. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on May 03, 2011, 05:35:57 PM ^This with Metaknight and soon a dash of Falcon.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on May 03, 2011, 05:52:45 PM Or Shadow.
Geno. Zero. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 05, 2011, 08:38:31 AM sonic and shadow clone engine all the way so there can be more options for anyone who doesnt want shadow over DK or marth and want to keep sonic original like i have a sonic port over dk and shadow over the original sonic
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on May 05, 2011, 10:23:25 AM it would be amazing if someone could translate the ike rel to PAL but i guess i will take time :S and it probably wont happen why did the rels had to be diferent why could it be the same like the pac files
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ShadowSnake on May 05, 2011, 10:44:26 AM I'd rather see a Link Clone Engine, rather than a Mario one to be honest. Mario and Doctor Mario aren't that much different. While Link, Zero, and Lyn are. Link clone engine would be worth it, im out of link slots and i dont want Zero shooting arrows. Snake needs a clone engine, there are really good Snake vertexes and a lot of people including myself wish we could have more snakes because we are out. Imagine Master Chief vs Snake. :>.>: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on May 05, 2011, 11:24:36 AM If you know:
C/C++ scripting How to dump and rebuild a .rel Then we might have a generic Link/Lucario/Sonic/[insert character name] module. The last requirement however, is still (AFAIK) impossible. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on May 06, 2011, 12:45:01 PM sonic and shadow clone engine all the way so there can be more options for anyone who doesnt want shadow over DK or marth and want to keep sonic original like i have a sonic port over dk and shadow over the original sonic I pray that would be the last one to be ported... the last thing I want is Super Smash Bros. Sonic Original Character Yiff fest 2011 Extravaganza. >_>; Or worse, Super Shadow Brawl, with each slot being a EVER SO SLIGHTLY different version of Shadow. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 06, 2011, 12:57:41 PM yeah lets make Super Shadow Bros. Brawl Shadow over anyone so we can use all these Shadow Hacks
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on May 06, 2011, 01:06:04 PM actually, link is probably the character in most need of a clone... xD
zero is powafull xD Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 06, 2011, 01:16:50 PM Mario Bros. is most needed Dr. Mario vs. mario vs. (if someone make moveset for it) Shadow Mario ;D
and Luigi vs. Mr. L vs. Silver (the import) vs. Kid goku import Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 06, 2011, 01:30:41 PM I'm actually up for super shadow bros brawl shadow needs more options kong characters need clone engines too to have dixie and lanky kong
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on May 06, 2011, 04:00:07 PM (http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz57/SecretGamer360/CaptainFalconFacepalm.png)
Okay, we REALLY should make sarcasm tags visible. -_-;; Ignoring that last post... I can't wait for the PAL version of this, if at all. >_>; Not getting the NTSC version just for this, but that's another bag of beans. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on May 06, 2011, 04:11:53 PM i just want falcon to be ported, then i'll be a happy nap sack
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 08, 2011, 03:55:44 PM I think a really great upload to the Brawl Vault would be one that contains all the things required to port Ike on the characters that we can put him over currently.
Complete with the list of codes required to make it possible, the .rel edits, etc. :3 (Plus I can't understand how the digits correspond to certain characters getting 3 jabs. I take it the "3" on the far right is number of jabs, but otherwise I'm lost ._.') EDIT: GW having 3 jabs 04B0B634 00000003 Olimar having 3 jabs 04B0B7BC 00000003 So...Jab codes go like this then? ??? has 3 jabs 04B0Bzzz 00000003 Might I request a list as to what fill the zzz's? Those digits don't seem to compare to any other list where the characters have digits that correspond to them, like with the soundbank, or the IC constants. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 09, 2011, 01:34:18 AM i also this i think:
1 jab 04B0Bzzz 00000001 2jab: 04B0Bzzz 00000002 3jab: 04B0Bzzz 00000003 and etc. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 10, 2011, 12:12:20 PM Had a feeling that was what the last digit was for. Thanks :3
Now all we need are the digits that correspond to each character. Also, I have tried porting Ike on Kirby and the Ice Climbers with the following codes, and the patched .rels Kirby has Ike's IC-Constants C2858928 00000003 2C040005 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Kirby has Ike's sound bank 4A000000 80AD89E0 14000014 00000020 E0000000 80008000 Popo has Ike's IC-Constants C2858928 00000003 2C04000F 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Popo has Ikes Soundbank 4A000000 80AD89E0 1400003C 00000020 E0000000 80008000 Nana has Ike's IC-Constants C2858928 00000003 2C040010 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Nana has Ike's sound bank 4A000000 80AD89E0 14000040 00000020 E0000000 80008000 My results were as follows; Kirby - Freezes after selecting him. (Any idea why? I matched his IC constants to Ike's...) IC's - WITH Nana and Popo's codes from above, freezes before stage loads. (Bleh...) IC's - WithOUT Nana's codes, only Popo's, freezes before stage loads.(Double Bleh...) So far, everyone else I've tried works pretty well. Replacing Sonic with Ike gives him MEGA jump momentum <3 ROB and Sonic in the same battle did something and it froze, but works alright otherwise. Diddy also worked, as do Olimar and G&W. (But with G&W and sometimes ROB, have no SFX even with the soundbank codes...) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 10, 2011, 12:14:26 PM can you maybe make a DK. has Sonic´s soundback
some of my ShadowKong´s SFX(not voices) uses like sonic´s spindash SFX but that ID only works over Sonic Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on May 11, 2011, 03:33:11 AM http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12690710#post12690710
I think you guys might be interested to read this. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 11, 2011, 03:42:59 AM awesome it looks like he have ported them (hopefully he port DK or Sonic over someone like olimar :D that means shadow over DK over Olimar or just shadow over Olimar
and soon Mario so i can have Dr. mario+Fire Mario moveset+my SMBZ mario moveset Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 11, 2011, 04:34:40 AM im up for SDDooms shadow over olimar
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 11, 2011, 07:14:10 AM im up for SDDooms shadow over olimar if DK. get ported before Sonic we still getting Shadow over anyone (my ShadowKong)and for fixed Chaos spear just using my Shadowkong friendly Sonic PSAs :D but i am more hoping on Mario or luigi (luigi for that kid goku so i dont have to port him over Diddykong) i want my Shadow stay if DK.rel file coming only move him if clone engine come to that part with add more char. slots or if Sonic.rel file Come i still want Shadow over DK. but this time he 100% working with any attack sdo0m made (but still letting my ShadowKong stay for SFX pack/for PAl user who can´t use .rel files yet) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 11, 2011, 07:46:45 AM I'd also like a luigi clone engine to have silver and not lose luigi I don't want to replace Dk because he's a very worthy character and has the amazing DK country games there are lots of unworthy characters in brawl like. Pit olimar ice climbers ROB
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 11, 2011, 08:34:33 PM Awesome, Dr.Mario'll be finding himself a nice little spot on my roster as soon as I can figure out who to boot >:3 8 (Having issues with some of my Ike-replacements...)
Anywhoo, I saw Olimar-Ike fight Diddy-Ike the other day, and much like the ROB-Ike and the Sonic-Ike fight I mentioned last I posted, they froze it somehow... I'm wondering if multiple Ikes on multiple characters is less stable than I thought when in the same battle. Also, Olimar seems to be the only character I can get the soundbank mod code to work for 100% of the time. G&W, ROB, Sonic, even Diddy will periodically go mute for some reason when Olimar-Ike is not present. Also, does anyone know why Kirby-Ike freezes at the CSS when selected? I edited the .rel perfectly, I had the IC constants codes, soundbank codes, and had everything in the Kirby fighter folder that belongs to Ike from his .pac file, to his things like FitIke(Or rather, Kirby in this instance)Dark.pcs, etc... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ItalianStallion on May 11, 2011, 08:56:53 PM MarioDK, do you still need DK to have Sonic's soundbank?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Dantarion on May 11, 2011, 09:56:31 PM http://www.justin.tv/dantarion/b/285661899
Didn't patch a module. Method requires ASM patching to get specific caracters to work. Currently working. Lucario Marth Up Next...Pikachu. ----------------------- Also, test your characters in training mode. Training Mode doesnt load Entry.pac's and a character without an entry .pac can't go over one without modifying the EntryData http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Instance_Slots ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/IC-Constants Any character that cannot Crawl, Fly, jab123,ftilt12, dash attack->crouch(snake) etc, CANNOT be put over one that does without fixing the IC-Constants. A normal jumper cannot go over a multijumper either. ds22 posted earlier that I would hate this thread. He's kinda right. All I really see are people scrambling to get whatever they personallly want working, without many people trying to understand exactly what PW and I have done. I don't really expect much from the community these days, especially on kc-mm, since most of you are artsy types, not coders. One thing that I kinda thing is cool is that I literally LEARNED C#, Python, PowerPC ASM, how to use a disasembler, writing tools for generating OpenSA content, etc, over the process of working with Brawl. I got this stuff on my resume, except instead of "Added characters to Brawl" its written "Proficient with using hardware debuggers on embedded systems." Anyways, I am ranting, I am really happy that kc-mm has gotten so big! Its been a long time since Picano and Jack talked to me on AIM about giving this site a permanant home on my web hosting :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Dantarion on May 11, 2011, 10:44:07 PM Kirby has Ike's IC-Constants Only the second code will work. You cannot point two C2 codes at the same address and have them both run.C2858928 00000003 2C040005 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Popo has Ike's IC-Constants C2858928 00000003 2C04000F 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Nana has Ike's IC-Constants C2858928 00000003 2C040010 40820008 38800022 1C040038 60000000 00000000 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 11, 2011, 10:47:08 PM MarioDK, do you still need DK to have Sonic's soundbank? i got it from Thany :D and will put it on ShadowKong .zip soon as soon i got back home and @Dantarion whos next after Pikachu one of Mario Bros.? Luigi i think is needing becoz he got many imports but no one want to replace Weegee :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 12, 2011, 01:01:51 AM Can't replace weegee D:
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 01:09:20 AM damn DK. has Soinc soundback dont worked good :( now Shadow has Sonic SFX but no Voices
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Dantarion on May 12, 2011, 01:15:44 AM Can't replace weegee D: damn DK. has Soinc soundback dont worked good :( now Shadow has Sonic SFX but no Voices I guess you guys are busy trying to replace DK with Shadow to realize we don't have to replace anyone anymore :PTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 01:46:24 AM i know the more chars slots. come :D but mainly the ShadowKong is for Pal users for ppl who can´t use these .rel files
SHadowKong is already done just need to get the PSa more CPu Friendly(just his up-B and maybe N-B) and hopefully soon codes like more char slots/more stages and etc. will come to emulator users too or a plugin for dolphin that loads the SSBB hacks from a folder in the PC but i heard only 7x slots more right now anyway i let my Shadow stay over DK. so i can use these 7 slots to something else (like Dr. Mario :af2:/my Goku PSA) but if Dk .rel come i maybe only maybe make a Silver PSa over DK. like i did on Shadow since Dk can use renamed FitSonic.pac too :D (easy port to make) i only know Silver from M&S at winter OL i have never Played sonic 06 since no PS3/xbox so need a moveset idea anyway back to on-topic Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 12, 2011, 02:02:00 AM i know the more chars slots. come :D Wut? Is PW making a code to add more character slots? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 02:05:35 AM yeah but i heard only 7 more i think i know who it can be :D on my Roster but one thing i am more hoping for coming
a SD card emulator for dolphin emulator :D so dolphin can use file patch code instead replace any files in .iso and dolphin can use more stages code and for sure also more vertex/texture/chars. slots for Dolphin this is the only reason for i still using my Wii for get more stages and etc. i got a perfect setup on my emulator so it works without lag and HD :af2: i will also make a new Dr. mario moveset as soon we got dr. Mario slot and i am done with afew of my moveset :af2: but it will not be melee styled or almost a clone of Mario but still Dr. Mario-ish with piles and maybe needles too :D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 12, 2011, 02:12:06 AM Instead of making the PSA more CPU friendly, try making the AI more PSA friendly. I know it's hard, but it SHOULD work with all regions' AI Files.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 02:15:35 AM Instead of making the PSA more CPU friendly, try making the AI more PSA friendly. I know it's hard, but it SHOULD work with all regions' AI Files. i know but i dont so much to that AI thing i have check it out :( i will maybe check it out again then SMBZ mario/Goku PSA is done so i needing Sonic´s FS AI over Mario´s FS AI and Shadow/Goku needs same AI for up-Bbut back to on-topic this is not a thread for helping me :D anyway have found out how to fix GFX problem like my ShadowKong has with chaos spear before i made shadowKong friendly Sonic PSAs? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 12, 2011, 02:26:33 AM yeah but i heard only 7 more i think Does anyone know a release date for it? I hope it will work for riivolution because I can't get the stage expansion to work Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 02:29:02 AM Does anyone know a release date for it? I hope it will work for riivolution because I can't get the stage expansion to work stage expansion works on Rii Vault even got a setup for Rii with stage expansion (if you not is pal it of dont work) for more slots i am not sure but i think it will work on rii but i am more thinking for emulator users with that wanted something like stage expansion or more vertex/texture slots or now soon more char. slots i dont think it will be hard to write a program like this but i dont know how :( to let dolphin emulator to emulate a SD card so you can use File patcher code+stage expansion+other codes like that for dolphin Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 12, 2011, 02:32:11 AM It's only when I add the codes included the game doesn't launch and I have beyondyous loader and a file patch XML but that's off topic
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 02:34:28 AM It's only when I add the codes included the game doesn't launch and I have beyondyous loader and a file patch XML but that's off topic yeah thats off topic like my idea for dolphin emulator but hopefully someone can make a Dolphin emulator Built just for SSBB with hacksTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on May 12, 2011, 02:44:28 AM Dantarion is making those Clone Engine ASM codes.
PW hasn't been around since February and he had no involvement in what Dantarion did. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 02:49:54 AM PW hasn't been around since February and he had no involvement in what Dantarion did. thats not true i saw him online afew days before on smashboard but only for afew mins :D so maybe he is back Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Dantarion on May 12, 2011, 09:14:42 AM Not posting in this thread anymore.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 12, 2011, 09:20:22 AM ok Dantartion can you make a new Thread just for .rel file(with DL link) and Prograss on Clone engine on KC-mm? i think you is the one who know best how far the clone engine is done
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on May 12, 2011, 09:38:57 AM Patching modules is past now
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Albafika on May 12, 2011, 12:13:59 PM [censored], this page 51 was totally full of unndeed crap, excluding Dantarion's and ds22's comments...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on May 12, 2011, 01:10:43 PM [censored], this page 51 was totally full of unndeed crap, excluding Dantarion's and ds22's comments... This whole thread is nothing but hype on the users side Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on May 12, 2011, 06:22:10 PM DDDDUUUUUUHHHHH
no offence, but it's alot of hype. but it's not all bad, i was able to port Marth and Ike over 90% of my hated characters roster list. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on May 13, 2011, 12:46:54 AM i just wanted an translated ike rel and marth rel to work on pal because right now i cant do anything with this :S
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Jaklub on May 13, 2011, 07:47:20 AM Patching modules is past now DAMMIT.That made me hyped enough to add another useless post to the stack. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 13, 2011, 10:30:36 PM Code: Kirby has Ike's IC-Constants Thanks :3 ...Erm...Which one did you mean by the second code? Only Popo's? Or...A second line within one of those 3 blocks of codes? Or that Popo's will work only without Kirby's being on as well? *has interpretation issues* *confused* O__o' I mean, I did try with only Popo's and not Nana's(Kirby was a separate test that froze on me as well) and I got a freeze while the stage tried to load...*mega confused* x__x Or does that mean I have to get rid of the C2858928 00000003 line from either Popo or Nana? *giga confused* Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: standardtoaster on May 14, 2011, 05:51:03 PM You cannot use multiple X has Y IC-Constants codes because they all write to the same place.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 14, 2011, 05:55:35 PM Hmm..... would it be possible to make it one code then?
For example, to have all the characters in Thany's post have Ike's IC-Constants for an example?? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 14, 2011, 06:57:18 PM It's...Not normally possible to have more than 1 character use another's IC codes at once?
But I have Olimar, G&W, Sonic and ROB all feeding off of his IC constants(Ike/Roy having Marth's ICs to boot) all at the same time. o_o???????? I have all these codes active at once; Code: Ike over Mr. Game & Watch has 3 jabs[Standardtoaster] Wait...Or is this just an issue with the Ice Climbers both trying to feed from Ike's ICs? I am co(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)ally lost here. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on May 15, 2011, 07:11:01 AM what happens if you replace popo, with ike usign the .rel adn codes adn stuff, but leave nana>? will it be ike and nana?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 15, 2011, 04:00:18 PM ^ When I tried that, it just froze as the stage was loading... : /
Haven't tried just Nana's codes yet, but that strikes me as being fruitless. (Also, just to clarify, is it Ft_Iceclimber.rel ?) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on May 15, 2011, 10:55:50 PM yes it is, and seeing that the iceclimbers actually are just one pcs for 2 models, wouldnt u only need popo's code? (or just a ice climber code?)
cuz even if they are 2, they work as 1... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: secretchaos1 on May 15, 2011, 11:54:37 PM Wow, no wonder Dant got fed up with posting here, just reading through the thread makes it look like his progress post was practically ignored =/
That aside, it's wonderful to see some real progress towards the fabled clone engine. I'm assuming Masquerade has been put on hold in place of this, which is fine with such amazing work getting done. I'll be lurking around and keeping up to date with your progress =3 Keep up the amazing stuff. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on May 16, 2011, 09:45:51 AM I want Masquerade :(
He should finish it instead of leaving us without both Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 16, 2011, 09:49:53 AM maybe they both come at same time so we got awesome things for summer
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on May 16, 2011, 10:44:46 AM i thought this thread died dude...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 16, 2011, 02:31:33 PM The thread died when Dant said he wasn't posting here anymore, which I cannot blame him for.........
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on May 18, 2011, 08:26:44 PM Hmmm... is it possible to delete an article's data in a character? And stop it from annoying people when porting?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ultraxwing on May 19, 2011, 01:49:54 PM i think the thread should be locked.
it's jus spamz... i have contributed WAY too much to it. but still. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 19, 2011, 03:58:27 PM Before a potential lock, I'd like to ask if anyone else attempted Ike over Kirby with any success.
I've tried training mode this time so the entry wouldn't cause a problem, but I just kept meeting with the same results. I even removed all the other IC constants codes and anything else that contributes to putting an Ike over someone. All other modules. All Ike related stuff from the other character's folders. Everything. I even re-did the module as I thought I made a mistake. It seems Kirby is a stubborn li'l fella. Unless a jab code is needed for Kirby to make him work, I'm all out of ideas. Plus Dant posted that you need to edit the entry data if you were to put a character without one over someone who does have one(does Ike have an entry.pac of some kind? I didn't see it in the Data Partition for Brawl on mediafire...) Somehow doubting this is the issue if it refuses to work even in training though. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on May 20, 2011, 09:48:23 AM ike has an entry.pac, yes...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Thany on May 21, 2011, 03:07:19 PM He does? Cool :3
Could you send one to me if you have it? Ike's un-edited entry.pac, please? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 21, 2011, 04:33:34 PM Standardtoaster made a code that disables entry data.
No Entry Data [Standardtoaster] 04AD8030 00000000 04AD8034 00000000 04AD8038 00000000 04AD803C 00000000 04AD8040 00000000 04AD8044 00000000 04AD8048 00000000 04AD8050 00000000 04AD8054 00000000 04AD805C 00000000 Now please, let's all leave this thread alone. If there is another video or update, someone like me, ds22, PW, etc. will bump this thread. Until then, post your questions in the help forum for now. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on May 21, 2011, 05:11:37 PM ^I Think that with those codes you can port Marth over anyone now. The result data was the thing that caused Marth over Jiggs to freeze. So now that its gone I think it may work now!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: ♤♡◇♧ on May 21, 2011, 05:55:08 PM I'll tell you all a little secret.
Why do you think MK ports that easy? It's because, even though MK has article data, his module file doesn't make any special references to them. Characters like Ike, Link and Lucario (and basically every other character with article data) have those special references, so needing additional patching to even be rendered portable. So MK was portable all this time (in the same way Marth is), just no one made any effort to even check if he was. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 21, 2011, 06:08:00 PM The Cape is just for show.
Armgun too. LAWL. The MK swings appearing on Gray Fox is my fault. I have the Sword glow data AND that External Graphic reference in many attacks. Nice to see the Sword glow working though. Anyway, I may only need a quick fix to make Gray Fox NOT T-stance on a non multijumper. Thankfully I can replicate the .rel myself(DON'T ASK FOR REQUESTS) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Strange Matter on May 24, 2011, 05:29:41 AM Is there a list anywhere of what IDs at what offsets need to be changed to port MK to other characters?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 24, 2011, 05:35:02 AM btw is there going to be a packages For these .rel files there is made like we got for stages?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on May 24, 2011, 09:47:55 AM Is there a list anywhere of what IDs at what offsets need to be changed to port MK to other characters? in the wiki there should be...Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 24, 2011, 03:48:48 PM Is there a list anywhere of what IDs at what offsets need to be changed to port MK to other characters? :srs: http://opensa.dantarion.com/wiki/Patching_Character_Modules btw is there going to be a packages For these .rel files there is made like we got for stages? :srs: Please redirect ALL questions to this thread: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=25005.0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: OmegaMalkior on May 26, 2011, 07:34:55 PM whoopsie peach :P
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on May 26, 2011, 07:57:19 PM Cool, another character that can be ported.
My only problem is that there aren't that many great PSA's on Sonic. But that's a small concern. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on May 26, 2011, 07:59:02 PM Stop with the porting. Get with the ex
I need new slots. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on May 26, 2011, 08:11:21 PM I said that would be my last port. >.< I know. I was just saying in general. No hate was intended.Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on May 27, 2011, 05:23:01 AM Yeah! Sonic over Diddy Kong! I want it!
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 27, 2011, 05:29:34 AM lol nice then i only have to make Shadow-Diddykong friendly PSAs now ;D
i was almost done with over DK. port Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 27, 2011, 05:31:33 AM To give the heads up me and ssbbtailsfan are making a sonic clone engine over olimar
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 27, 2011, 05:36:18 AM anyway i want still Shadow to be over DK.
it is possible to get that .rel over DK? also my Dk port is PAL friendly Too ;D Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DTST on May 27, 2011, 08:48:04 AM Yea, I'd just make the .rel but I don't know since Sonic freezes during some attacks (not the game just himself) I thought you wanted Shadow or something? o_0 Well i'v decided to keep shadow over sonic and want a clone over olimar(I hate him so I want to make some use out of him) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on May 27, 2011, 11:34:40 AM Four words:
PAL needs more love. :( Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 27, 2011, 02:29:06 PM Maybe if you PM me a pal Marth.rel or Purin.rel.........
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: vm19961126 on May 27, 2011, 02:36:46 PM Maybe if you PM me a pal Marth.rel or Purin.rel......... why... you need codes to get it working right? and the codes are ntsc? or are those codes for pal users too? if it are also pal codes, then, ignore this :P Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on May 27, 2011, 02:46:39 PM As I am here and have a pal brawl, I will give you all the rel of Pal. I precise that I do this only for only Pal users, as my Ssbb hacked is Us, so it is not for me.
Eternal Yoshi, do what you want with them if you decide to do something with them. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 27, 2011, 03:35:36 PM PAL users, test Plz:
http://www.mediafire.com/?21xs6ufq6blvdqe The offsets seem identical to NTSC's offsets... Just put this in and get Marth's files and name them to Mario's files. Test in training mode first please. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 27, 2011, 03:45:26 PM damn too bad my PAl disc is Broken but it will be awesome if someone for a change work on these for PAl instead always US getting all the awesome things first
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 27, 2011, 04:57:05 PM then it is good to have Shadow Over DK. ;D
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: IWasAPerson on May 27, 2011, 05:11:28 PM Nevermind that. I should spend more time on my experiments before sharing it. Using Sonic with Marth's .rel is such a bad idea. I just realized after a few matches how buggy it is, and it freezes the game when you grab ledges (even with Shadow) Oh well, at least the success of the Metaknight ports is all I can be proud of. Everyone makes mistakes. :P <.< >.> Don't feel bad about it. From your discovery I was able to make my own discovery: Viewtiful Joe works over Yoshi using a Marth .rel. The IC-Constant code is necessary but the disabled Entry and Result codes aren't. After using the IC-Constant code I attempted to make the game crash by using every possible move but I couldn't do it. Voomerang, Bombs, GFX, everything works. In fact, there's only 2 glitches with it: 1. The Final Smash doesn't connect. It just either has a bad hitbox or only does 5% damage and doesn't lock in the opponent. I'm going to check and see if this is fixable... 2. If you blow up a bomb in your face and someone gets hit by the blast, it causes 999% damage and sends them flying. It's kinda hilarious actually. I'll try this with regular Captain Falcon after I DL his standard files, see how it works out. But for the most part Viewtiful Joe works over Yoshi. And I'll try this over other characters, as well. So thanks ssbbtailsfan for posting your information, even if it didn't really work in the end... :srs: Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 27, 2011, 05:14:25 PM if V joe working that means Goku too :D
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: IWasAPerson on May 27, 2011, 09:09:33 PM Well, I tested this out a little bit more. Captain Falcon himself T-Poses a lot. His Side-B doesn't connect with anyone, his Final Smash makes him freeze (but the game doesn't), Falcon Punch T-Poses him, his entry causes a polygon stretch, and did I mention he T-Poses a lot?
Goku is a little less glitchy, but his kamehameha's power level's OVER 9000!!! Ok, it does 999% damage, and his side-b doesn't connect. Entry also has stretched polygons but doesn't crash. I also tried this over Lucas, but it crashes before the match can even start. I'll try this over some other characters and see if it works well on anyone else. But so far VJoe works the best on Yoshi. Dunno why this is the case, to be honest. Might work better on Olimar or someone else... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 27, 2011, 10:07:16 PM Disable entry data and you shouldn't have freezing issues over Lucas.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: IWasAPerson on May 27, 2011, 10:22:26 PM Right, I noticed that right after I tried it out, never acknowledged it. Also, the changes to the .rel didn't save over for some odd reason, so that wasn't helping the situation any...
I guess that's what I get for running on no sleep...so yeah I'll glitch-test other characters eventually, see if there's one that works better than Yoshi. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: IWasAPerson on May 28, 2011, 09:36:28 AM Also, the reason it works fine on Yoshi, is because Yoshi doesn't use Entry/Result.pacs thus Marth works over him fine. But, if you were to use Marth on someone like Diddy Kong, then you need those codes, assuming you knew that already though :P. Way ahead of you on that :) I knew I had to do that, just somehow never actually made the codeset. I tried it and VJoe worked mostly the same on Olimar and Lucas. His gfx didn't want to load one match though...Shows what I get when I blank out on changing the codeset. And I also knew going into it that Marth's .rel isn't the new universal .rel...just trying it out for the hell of it really. Hope this doesn't start anything actually :/ Didn't surprise me Captain Falcon didn't work at all, due to article loading. I'm not going to test it out anymore, and I'm more interested in fixing the two existing glitches with VJoe. I checked out absolutely everything possible with items and ledges and grabbing, I can say that the only two glitches are the ones that I stated. Believe it has to do with that VJoe doesn't use Captain Falcon's articles but I very well could be wrong. So, yeah, VJoe worked pretty much out of sheer luck (fortunately), and I'm going to agree with ssbbtailsfan and say mixing the Marth .rel with any other character is a really bad idea. VJoe may the exception, and even then IC-Constant codes are necessary for his Up-B to not freeze. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: deadname mcredactedface on May 28, 2011, 10:01:17 AM Wait, so we're trying this out in PAL now? I'm going to give it a try when I finally get some free time from uni work.
What's this new method I keep hearing about? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Mastaklo on May 28, 2011, 04:34:05 PM i didnt visited this place a long time
can anyone bring me up to date which characters can be cloned right now ? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Anivernage on May 28, 2011, 04:36:24 PM i didnt visited this place a long time Marth, Metakinght, Ike, and a bit of sonic( all by codes and .rels)can anyone bring me up to date which characters can be cloned right now ? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on May 28, 2011, 04:39:58 PM Mastaklo: Go on this topic, you will find all or most of the informations you may need about the clone engine.
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=25005.0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 28, 2011, 06:08:48 PM That's why I didn't add that tidbit in the OP.
Thanks for trying. :) Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SmashClash on May 28, 2011, 07:36:27 PM i didnt visited this place a long time can anyone bring me up to date which characters can be cloned right now ? Try looking here: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=20844.0 Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Mastaklo on May 29, 2011, 03:21:04 AM thanks everyone
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on May 29, 2011, 04:19:28 PM PAL users, test Plz: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?21xs6ufq6blvdqe[/url] The offsets seem identical to NTSC's offsets... Just put this in and get Marth's files and name them to Mario's files. Test in training mode first please. i tested it even in marth vs marth (well ichigo vs ichigo) and in training mode its perfect even ichigo vs ichigo and in brawl mode we get mario tube stuck to our feet through the all match even if we die the tube gets on our feet and also it froze everytime when entering the result screens maybe because the mario tube stuck to our feet? dkn but the attacks and everything were perfect even ichigo vs ichigo but maybe doing on a less useful character? like yoshi or ROb since no entry we wouldnt get the tube stuck to our feets xD i think the hardest part is done since the attacks work all right and all that freezes or glitches are technical parts like mario tube and freeze when entering the result screen Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Psycho Philia on May 29, 2011, 04:53:10 PM Phew... Carnage, honestly, learn to use more ponctuations...
Anyway, about Mario, he has an entry, so you have to use the code to disable the entries. For the freeze of the result screen though, I don't know, mario doesn't have a result pac. KTH: Edited. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on May 29, 2011, 04:55:52 PM Mastakio: Go on this topic, you will find all or most of the informations you may need about the clone engine. [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=25005.0[/url] Mastaklo, not Mastakio. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on May 29, 2011, 05:00:41 PM Phew... Carnage, honestly, learn to use more ponctuations... sorry for not being able to tell where the ponctuations are since im not english and most of the english i learned was from watching movies and playing pokemon xD also is there a no entry code for mario in pal code??Anyway, about Mario, he has an entry, so you have to use the code to disable the entries. For the freeze of the result screen though, I don't know, mario doesn't have a result pac. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: KTH on May 29, 2011, 05:05:04 PM Anyway, a code Mario Clone was worked to port on anyone character?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 29, 2011, 11:03:50 PM It's not ready yet.
Dant is using a different method. Edit: Try to disable entry and result data and then try the PAL Marth.rel again, if the codes work for PAL. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DoctorFlux(Mariodk) on May 30, 2011, 01:31:52 AM i want to get atleast 3x Mario PSAs ;D with the .rel come for him soon
Dr. Mario SMBZ mario a Fire mario PSA Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on May 30, 2011, 01:59:33 AM It's not ready yet. Dant is using a different method. Edit: Try to disable entry and result data and then try the PAL Marth.rel again, if the codes work for PAL. i tried the exiting codes in pal but they dont do anything i still apear with mario tube stuck to he feets and freezes before entering the result screen wouldnt be better to try Yoshi or Rob in pal?since they dont have entry pac?or do they have a result pac? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on May 30, 2011, 05:01:12 AM Ap cray. :(
ROB is not a good idea since he needs a special code to work. Maybe ask standardtoaster for codes to disable entry and results data for PAL users? Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on June 04, 2011, 07:20:10 PM is the fit_roy.pac and FitRoy.pac out yet fo rthe codes and stuff in the first post/page?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on June 04, 2011, 09:01:17 PM No.
But you can use a ft_marth.rel and FitMarth and port it over a character you think is useless, so you can have a Roy and a Marth. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on June 05, 2011, 10:51:44 AM i have marth over rob, so i can have royh over rob? thats cool.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on June 05, 2011, 11:56:36 AM Yeah. Just put the Roy moveset on ROB then, and you should have a Roy.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on June 05, 2011, 01:05:35 PM wow ok thnx. i did that but when i played roy vs marth (marth was over rob and roy was over marth) it was fien but when i played it agtian roy had a sword beam thing out of his nose.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on June 05, 2011, 07:17:18 PM Yeah, there may be a few glitches. For a time, my Naruto over Olimar had his knife constantly sticking through his face. I got it fixed somehow eventually.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on June 06, 2011, 02:34:36 PM how? could it be done with the roy also?
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Tempo_ on June 06, 2011, 04:51:23 PM Actually, ignore what I said. Seems like I was just able to avoid such a glitch for a while. Ha.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on June 06, 2011, 06:27:37 PM oh. okay
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DSX8 on August 30, 2011, 02:28:24 PM You mean the one I uploaded? I'm using it this very instance and I get no freezing! can some1 give me the download for that cloud over Dedede? i seem to have lost mine on my SD card -_-edit: sorry i didnt kno this thread was dead for almost 3 months >.> Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Eternal Yoshi on August 30, 2011, 04:22:57 PM can some1 give me the download for that cloud over Dedede? i seem to have lost mine on my SD card -_- edit: sorry i didnt kno this thread was dead for almost 3 months >.> The existence of this thread is completely dependent on the state of the Clone Engine itself. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: DSX8 on August 30, 2011, 04:29:17 PM The existence of this thread is completely dependent on the state of the Clone Engine itself. hah yeah true, it is a very good topic indeed... i just cant seem to find that cloud over dedede hack anymore >.<It's still going to be a hot topic so it must stay stickied. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Ricky (Br3) on August 30, 2011, 06:49:21 PM But isn't the clone engine pretty much dead? I haven't seen anything about it in a good while.
I thought people were supposed to continue where Dantarion stopped... Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: SonicBrawler on August 30, 2011, 06:50:48 PM ds22 and Eternal Yoshi are continuing it
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on August 31, 2011, 09:43:46 AM I'm more worried about Masquerade and it's release (And PAL Equivalent)
I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have more costumes instead of a Clone Engine, since the characters that are replaced with the new stuff aren't really going to be missed for me in my opinion. Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LCCoolJ95 on August 31, 2011, 02:39:02 PM I'm more worried about Masquerade and it's release (And PAL Equivalent) I dunno about you, but I'd much rather have more costumes instead of a Clone Engine, since the characters that are replaced with the new stuff aren't really going to be missed for me in my opinion. Yeah, especially because of Beyond. He makes so many good hacks, I don't know which slot I should replaceTitle: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: LC-DDM on August 31, 2011, 06:27:12 PM He's not the only one who makes good hacks -- he just gets more spotlight for it.
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: BlueBrain on September 01, 2011, 12:53:24 PM off-topic: im gonna use that quote in my signature...
Title: Re: SUGOI! Another Clone engine topic :af: Post by: Carnage on September 01, 2011, 01:19:05 PM off-topic: im gonna use that quote in my signature... did he get moderated for saying that?also back on topic did eternal yoshi or ds22 already got dantarian work? or still no sign of it? |