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After watching videos of Sephiroth, I was thinking, Hey!! I can make this!!!....and here it is.
I tried  to  make his animations to be more Sephiroth-like. Yet, I still need time to create his appropriate Smash attack animations and his Air attack animations, It took me 4 days to make v.1.0, since I had to focus on school work. Moreover, I can greatly improve version 1.0 with constructive feed back. So, if you desire a perfect Sephiroth PSA, please give only constructive feedback. Irrelevant feedback will be disregarded.

I have referenced this video for his moveset.
  I also referenced Aafyre post located here:http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=15343.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=15343.0)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKY1lM56zE


His fall speed should be somewhat slow and floaty, like Melee Mewtwo's.

Weak Attacks:

A Combo
Sephiroth performs a series of attacks with his sword combo. The last strike of this will be the only one with significant knockback.
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Up Tilt
Sephiroth swings his sword to shoot out some rather weak air blades diagonally up. This will play very similarly to the CoN Naruto PSA's Kunai attack. Marth's Up Tilt animation would work well for this.
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Down Tilt
Ike's Down Tilt would probably be fine, as long as the range in increased.

Running A
Maybe kind of like Marth's.
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Smash Attacks:

Forward Smash
Sephiroth performs a slash similar to Link's Forward Smash animation.
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Up Smash
Pretty much the same as Ike's, just faster and weaker. Fast enough so that his Up Tilt can sometimes set the opponent up for it. with a new charge animation
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Down Smash
Sephiroth holds his sword up and stabs it into the ground. Very similar to Ike's Neutral B, even the animation can be the same. But instead of fire, there can be that green lifestream stuff, with bits of earth/rocks cracking up, kind of like this:
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Specials:

Neutral B
Sephiroth summons a meteor that shoots diagonally down. The longer you charge, the greater distance the meteor travels.
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Forward B: Shadow Flare

Maybe something like Zelda's Forward B. You will control a little shiny thing, but when you let go, it will explode into shadowy spheres. You have full control over the Dark Orb, works exactly like zelda's side B special. It took me forever to get it to work (4 hours and over 1000 lines of code)  :-\

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Down B
Sephiroth summons a giant pillar of fire around him. The longer you charge, the more pillars there will be, with a maximum of three (the second pillar will be in front of him, the third will be in back). These pillars pull the opponent toward them and keep the opponent trapped for a second or two while burning him (like Ness' PK Fire).
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Down B in Air: Shoots Meteors downwards from the sky.
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UP B: Same

Final Smash: Summons a giant meteor by BigBadBooya
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Download link: In my vault as usual.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16127 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=16127)

I'm not a specialist about Sephiroth, so I won't probably spend so much time on this topic. But I have one great question, why didn't you put Super Nova attack? It is a Sephiroth attack if I recall correctly, and this is an attack that is very famous for him I think, so why didn't you put it? You can put it for example as a final smash!

Simply because I didn't want to copy Hollow's Sephiroth PSA. He already used Super Nova as a final smash. :/   but the meteor works well. :)

does the sword hitbox go all the way to the tip like Hollow's? just wondering.

Yup. All I had to do was set x offset on bone 41 = 20.



lemme know if you guys find any bugs in the psa that I haven't found lol

Oh yeah, in that case for Super Nova I can understand why you didn't put it. You want to be original, so I understand your point really well.

Yup. ;D....whew I'm so tired. I'll be back on later =]

Ok see you later, if I have time I will try to test your Psa and see if there is any bug. I say you now, this Psa doesn't really interest me, but I know some people will probably be interested with it, close to me or not close so maybe I can help!

I have some feedback... I feel he runs too fast, his air mobility is far too good, and having 6 jumps is over kill...

Moving on to attacks, most of the moves are still Marth's, same range, same sweet spot, like forward tilt, dash attack, and all aerials except for forward air... And, even the new moves have that sweet spot... Making them too powerful, like forward air... Also, that move is too fast, you can gimp characters without much problem.

Okay, on to the other new moves.

Jab attack... Seems a little choppy, plus... Sephiroth shouldn't punch you... I would change this, it feels wonky anyway... If you keep it however, it should have end lag.

Up tilt... Hm... It doesn't seem to kill with the projectile part... But it is a little spammy... Maybe make the damage a little less, and give it a little end lag.

Down tilt... Could use end lag.

Up smash... Hm... Does too much damage, I can do 21 damage sometimes with it... This needs to be down toned.

Forward smash... The first hit is a spike... So, use it on a foe trying to recover, and they can kiss themselves goodbye.

Down smash... Has too much range, plus the graphics stay for too long, it could have some start up, and end lag honestly...

Up special... Not any different except for the graphics...

Side B... I really like the idea with this move, but it has a lot of problems... The hit box could be smaller... And the worst part about it, you can mash Side B, and basically... Spam a lagless attack, and if you do this in the air, he rises upward, and if you stop, he freezes in place... You need to fix this somehow... On the ground, it's broken, in the air, it's glitchy.

Neutral B... Hm... On the ground, it seems alright, in the air... It's kinda odd... It makes his already insane recovery even better... Maybe he shouldn't be able to use it in the air?

Down B... Broken, it comes out too quick, has no start up, or end lag on the ground, plus the flames should be around him, not in front of him, and in the air, you can stay there for as long as you want, and spam it as your foe tries to recover, or worse... In a battle with a time limit, you can make one kill, jump up to a place where your foe can't reach you, and spam that move... You win.

Final smash... I like Hollow's a lot better...

Why can he hit you sometimes while walking? It just seems odd...

Over all, it needs a lot of work, animations are kinda choppy, and the balance is not great...

Sorry if I sound harsh, but I just think he needs work, heck, maybe work with Hollow and make a perfect Sephiroth? I don't know. XD

One last thing, he froze randomly when I taunted one time... It hasn't happened again, but I thought I should tell you anyway.

nice job but it need a lot more work on it 

i did the side b move in the air a couple of times and when i touched the ground i was frozen in place. and then once i got hit the game froze.

Yup... Both of those happened...

Yeah, Sephiroth freezes in more then his taunts, he just randomly freezes out of nowhere...

How did I not see this? O_o
Anyway, testing. :)

How many jumps?

He has 6 jumps... Too many if you ask me...

Data Drain said most of what I wanted to say already.  This definitely needs a later release to iron out the glitches, oped moves and generally poorly presented moves at times.  But here's my contribution to feedback:

- Firstly, let me say I really like the walking animation.  It's very smooth and fluid however the hitbox at the end is actually rather annoying.  It means that he can just stop a lot of attacks in its tracks just by walking (since the hitbox by the looks of it has pretty good priority).

- This actually brings me onto the general mobility of the character.  He is WAAAAAAAAAAY too fast on both the ground and in the air.  He goes faster than MAX Onslaught in the air.  All of the movement speeds and the air mobility need to be toned down A LOT.

- The Down B is insanely strong.  Largely because it lasts forever until you release a button.  And if the foe is stuck in the middle of it, it is difficult to escape from.  I managed to deal 115% damage to a lvl 9 CPU with this move alone.  

- The Waiting animations are really static.  They really need a bit more movement otherwise he just looks like a bit of a lifeless statue when standing still.


You see, there's a lot to take into account when making a balanced PSA.  It's a far more intricate and delicate process than making an overpowered PSA ;)

Once you finish the (possible) next version can you make an OP'd version?

^ He kinda is overpowered already.

At the moment anyway... Yes, he's very overpowered...

Yeah, if anything this is the overpowered version. I would add my opinion, but just reread DataDrain's feedback. Overall... meh.

 ^ Very good. You've provided the best feedback so far. I can easily fix this.

and yeah Sep is known to punch. About the final smash, initially, I was going to use super nova but I didn't want to make it seem like I copied off Hollow's PSA.
Aafyre post located here:http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=15343.0

I sooo see that meteor being side stepped xD

1-28-11@7:14PM: Main file has been replaced. I have applied _Data_Drain_ suggestions and fixed many glitches, including his side B and Down B specials.

Hm... I'll need to test him more, but one thing I noticed was, he can still abuse that glitch with Side B, going upward in the air... And being highly spammable on the ground... Plus, the game froze on me when using it over and over... He has freezing issues, that's for sure... More testing in a little bit.

OH! i see what your saying. if you keep pressing side B it is spamable. I never noticed that till now.....the whole time I was like what? lol...I'll get that fixed.

Also... Is there something off with his side taunt's coding? It seems when I'm facing left, and use side taunt... It freezes...

Alright, I like up tilt better now, it seems alright, down smash, it's better now, his over all movement is balanced out well now, his down B still needs start up and end lag...

Also... Wasn't there some glitch with the wing? I'm not sure... But I thought I heard that somewhere...

oh your right, in his side taunt subaction it has an goto offset that refrence something that does not exist, so it causes the game to freeze. lol...I'll upload version 1.4 soon. with a fixed side B special and taunt fixes.

I really want to look at the Shadow flare move. 1000 lines of code? That's a bluff.

He also froze at random... It looked like he either got hit... Or was just standing there... I'm not sure what it was, but he freezes a lot, once you iron those out, I can test him better... Say... his down air could be what Hollow has, except better balanced, Hell's Gate from Dissidia... Look up some Dissidia videos for ideas on some moves, after all, Dissidia Sephiroth had moves from KH...

And Hollow... You two should work together, you two could make a really good Sephiroth together.

Dear god.... He wasn't bluffing. there has to be at least 500 lines for the shadow flare move.....
I could never put that much coding into a PSA.

It really was over 1000 lines of code. you can check it for yourself via smash attack exe. lol

sorry for the double post but I just replaced the main file again haha...Side B is no longer spamable. and taunts no longer freeze the game

Well, actually I'm acumulating some motivation for PSA again. Let's see if I can make what I'm thinking of.....just need to know who to put it on.

Hey Hollow, i think it would be cool if we combined our seperioth PSA's. Would you be down?

we'll both be collaborators ofcourse.

I can get it done tonight.  :af:

THAT, would be cool, because there's some moves Hollow made that I like, however, I'm growing fond of some of the ones you made...

Oh, down tilt should only spike when your opponent is really close to you, and the spike should be weaker, it seems like a good killing tool right now... But... Most down tilt spikes don't work like that, so... Yeah, make the farther part of the sword knock them away at a slightly upward angle.

Edit: His forward smash is kinda hard to use... Maybe it should be a slow one hit like Hollow's?

Also, his forward smash... I didn't notice there was a up and down version... It works like Marth's, except it has a spike?

Yeah, his forward smash attacks will be changed with new animations. I plan to have it be horizontal slashes like the way seperioth does in kingdom hearts II....;D

Octaslash eh? Nice, as long as it's not overpowered, I'm cool with that. :P

great.  I'll try to go easy on it haha. Before, it used to be hard for me to balance characters because almost every character in my SD card are OP, so I took off some of the OP character and tested my Sep PSA on balanced characters. so far, I still get beat by regular wario lol

Oh, I'm not sure if this will help... But here.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/psp/939394-dissidia-final-fantasy/faqs/58679
That tells about his moves in Dissidia... You can read up on them, and look at videos too.

Thanks. not sure if it was my internet but this website was down for 3 hrs? :/

I was having trouble with the site too... I guess it was all the updates that were happening... Like the new blog layout... Which I'm not used to, and at the moment hate. XD

I didn't realize this PSA had its own thread until now (and yes, this site was down for some time).

Anyways, this PSA has a lot of cool aspects that I think would merge well with Hollow's.

I'm going to go a little off-topic now, because I have a question. I've been thinking about revamping my Sephiroth vertex, as well as making Kingdom Hearts and shirtless versions, and I was wondering how viable it is to attach Marth's cape to his head to act as his hair. It always bothers me when his solid chunk of hair looks like it's impaling him whenever he looks up.

I agree. Maybe you should try to use the cape, and his chest looks kind of scrunched, maybe try stretching him taller? Cause my friends now all think he has boobs XD

Your friends are strange.

I agree :P I don't honestly see why they think that. Also Hollow, is there any possible way to escape your Sephiroth's SuperNova?

You have to dodge at the right time.


Also, Divine, do you know how to import SFX clips?

PM Nyspa, his Ethereal Bowser's forward throw has the SFX of "Wow! Incredible!" just like from Boss Battles.

That doesn't involve any SFX importing.  He simply called up an SFX that is accessible to all characters.  The IDs are all here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=296343

Yeah, I know I am a bit late at this, but I tried the KH Sephiroth psa and it was pretty fun. There (in my opinion) was an issue with the knock back for the balanced version. I was having a hard time actually killing someone until I landed a blow with the neutral special fully charged. Also there was a few animatiom issues with his running that positioned his left arm...funny.

Hey Divine,  I wouldn't mind helping you with animations since at th moment I am not too busy.

I know someone who does. I'll ask him ;D


hmm a little more knockback can be added. I'll pm you about the animations.

Just make sure the sound ID matches normal Marth... I don't want another case like Mewtwo going "HUAG" over and over again... This way, normal Gecko users can use him too.

haha what mewtwo did that?...I think I'd prefer either Disadia's or Kingdom hearts II voices. XD

The Mewtwo project Mewtwo... He also had a bad habit of saying "the aura is mine" at odd times... Anyway, I had an idea for Up B, there's a move in Dissidia called Heavens Light or something like that...

It's a little bit like his current Up B, but much more start up time, but it was one of his kill moves in Dissidia... I think that would work, as long as it has a good bit of start up time.

Nice. Sounds interesting. I haven't played Dissidia but I'll check out "Heavens Light" move on youtube.

Downloaded the most recent download and it's definitely much better.  It'd be pretty cool if aspects of this PSA were mixed with aspects of Hollow's. 

yup, I just got done fixing up some animations with that new brawl box you told me about....Me and Hollow are gonna work on our version 2. and then combine it as a final version 3. ....I think he agreed to it. not sure. lol

By the way, I saw your latest video of cloud. It's looking too good so far. XD



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O_O  they can walk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBUKRFXGuqo

@ DivineOverlord - I finished the waiting animation, & I will work on the running/ walking soon.

*watches video*  I think that it's just me but seeing the gorilla walk like that reminds me of a bigfoot, it just needs to be 7ft tall and he would make a perfect bigfoot.

cool cool!!! I tried making it more life like too but havent had a chance to finish it. Would you be able to send me over what you have after your done? :af:

oh I have manage to change his back evade. its pretty cool....now working on peach animations and octaslash XD. Brawl Box modset 4.2 is very helpful. ;D


Hell yeah, that does look like big foot. lol

I saw this vid yesterday. lol

Box modset 4.2 is more than just helpful, but be careful when you make animations, the file will want to attack you if you edit it wrong....

really? I'll keep a weary eye out. lol

I have a question, do you have an issue with a motion file gettin unnecessarily huge even though it can be 50-100 frames? I will explain exactly why if you want.

oh its fine, I can adjust the motion file and delete animations we don't use.  so its cool ;D

Hey, i have a chat room where we can discuss this collaboration.

http://sdstudios.servegame.com/forum/index.php

Join up and go to chat on the menu bar.

so you do agree with the merging of my version 2 of KH sep and your version 2 of FF7 sep?
for the final version of 3?

I have some ideas of the moves to include.

For specials:

B: I was working on a diagonal shot Meteor, so we could use your or mine.

Side B: Definitely the Shadow Flare

Down B: Your fire, my fire, or something completely different

Up B:  made a new flying up B, where he rises upward if you don't do anything, so CPUs ca recover, but we could use something else.

Up tilt: Yours.

Down tilt: I made a new animation for my down tilt, now it perfectly goes back into a crouch.

That's all I have right now.

Oh I see. Well that can be done. BBB is working on fixing my run, walk, wait, animations. I'm working on his octaslash attack for a Forward Smash attack. we can use your ariel attacks.


The moves that I want to keep are:

-Side B special (shadow flare) - Improved it already

-Neutral B special (meteor) -  I have improved mines. :D

-We can probably keep his down B but change it with your fire graphic?

-I fixed up his down Smash animation so that'll be a good one to keep.

-Seperioth will have two final smashs, BigBadBooya's and your super nova. which will vary depending on how much damage seperitoh has.

we still don't have a good down tilt A attack.

UP B in air will be heavens light or yours.

- I added your hells gate move as a down B in air with improved graphics XD

_ I also changed other things that make him more seperitoh like.

Here are the collaborators for a new version 2.0...
1. Divineoverlord
2. Hollow
3. BigBadBooya

All three of us will have to approve the moveset after we're done reconciling the moveset. After, its approved, then we can release it.   ;)

Hm... It sounds like you made some good progress, although, DO, did you make Hell's Gate more like it was in Dissidia? He rises up for enough time to say, "to the Promise Land", after that time, the hit box should appear, also, it should drag the foe down on his sword if he hits them in the air... Unless you already did that. :P

Also, about the final smash... Did you weaken one of them? It would be silly to have two instakills, when it's damage based.

Well, you could have Supernova be a damage-based move that has no knock back.

I have a few updates for the Sephiroth and here are some pics

Here is his running
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I am also working on a Dessidia running for Sephiroth, but for now the running I made is the best for now.

A new waiting pose (I need to fix the knees still)
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And two others that I just finished today!
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Also a new taunt that I made out of nowhere, and also I fixed the sword issue with the down smash and made it so that he won't float when he uses the attack.
(http://i1215.photobucket.com/albums/cc514/BigBadBooya/Sephiroth/al_110131_1406binout.jpg?t=1296511715)
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Would you be needing anything else DivineOverlord ?

I already had waiting and running and dodging animations.

@ Hollow  -  Well the ones I made are the ones he asked me to fix for him.

@ BigBadBooya- wow you did really good!...what else do you think we should fix or change? should we keep his current up Smash?

@ data_drain--I plan to weaken the meteor final smash and have super nova as the strong one, since a super nova is the end of life for all beings around a star.

Yeah, I was thinking Super Nova should be the killer one... Oh yeah...
http://www.mediafire.com/?a41m557zmi2c2xs
I'm not sure if this will help, I made it out of boredom... Although it looks like BBB made the animation too... This is a wait animation, not sure if it's as good as BBB's, but you can look at it... Although Rydia might fix this one... She said it had some problems, but you all can look it over.

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to this. :)

you guys might need one very important thing that hollow did for his sephiroth. the attack range. like he was able to change marths normal size sword attack range to a longer sword attacking range to match sephiroths sword. cuz i noticed that in THIS psa. that the attack range was still marth like. so yeah

Well, but see, some moves do have the altered hit box, but yeah, I did notice some attacks having shorter range then they should.

Cool cool. I checked it out, looks like we have all 3 custom wait animations. ;D....I gave mines more life too. XD.....so you'll be helping out with the sperioth project too?




hmm are you sure? I thought I increased the range in version 1.3 hehe

and when did you do that divine?

I'll double check the file. All issues will be fixed with version 2.0 ;D

or if you want it now, I can replace the main file with the collisoin bubble reaching to the tip of the sword, yet, I often make the tip damage be less than closer to the sword.

cool. and might i ask, how close is kh sephiroth 2.0's completion? (SORRY! ANXIOUS! XD)

We're around 80% done, It's really just creating new animations. Like OctoSlash, back air attack, down tilt, side tilt, back throw, forward throw. and that's all. All the code work can be done really fast (if I do it).

one more suggestion move. that awesome sephiroth stab grab hollow made. EPIC IT WOULD BE!

Down Air you mean? He added that as Down B in the air.

Oh I actually already put that into the main motion file we'll be using.

about his down tilt A, it just doesnt seem sephy like does it?

Hm... I wonder if Reaper can be put in somehow... It's a multi hitting attack that has some end lag... Although it might be over powered for Brawl, I don't know, I'm playing Dissidia right now, and it has a lot of hits...

what you could do for final smash like the kingdom hearts game 1&2 his move sinful harvest which in the game knocks sora into a 1hit kill  of life left and could do that to any of the brawl charas who come contact to him or near you know like metaknights fs or ikes hit contact fs and use sinful harvest on the brawl character and then ko them just a thought thats all :af:

Hey, should we start out with my PSA then add all the moves?

Because mine has the perfect hitbox length on the sword.

that would work too. what do you think divine?

I also have the grab, the flying, the dodges, the gliding, and the wallcling and jump, although it gets rid of a Final Smash fo some reason nobody knows.

The two PSAs combined could make something phenomenal.  If this collaboration happens I'll be expecting big things ;)

oh i already fixed the hitbox length. just adding the move heartless angel now XD

hey hey whata about sinful harvest ;-; oh i get my idea was scrappped :>.>: jk lol but yeah why not sinful harvest?

Divine: http://sdstudios.servegame.com/forum/chat/index.php

Hey, Hollow, I'll be on at 7:30pm eastern time. Juz gotta study for my midterm now.

I would really love to use this and see most of the moves made by you, especially that Side B. Unfortunately I cannot hack anymore, so I was wondering if a video would be coming out soon showcasing the moves.

Hey, I asked in the mythbusters thread if running up walls (like in Dissidia) would be possible, and they seemed to think so. Do you think this would be better than the wall-clinging that he has? I wonder if it's possible to do both.

That'd be awesome. If that works I'll add that to my Naruto PSA.

I could do it with proper animations and a bunch of coding, but it's possible.

Do it. Please.

This is something I plan on doing with Cloud as well.  However it won't be with the beta release.  Wall running could work really well methinks.  If the wall cling can work I don't see why the wall run can't.

^ Agreed.

Erm... Sin Harvest is a misheard Heartless Angel, people thought Lance Bass said Sin Harvest... Although it wasn't the poor guy's fault that they added too much echo to his voice... Sorry for rambling.


Hm... Wall running could be really cool if done right, more balanced then infinite wall clinging at least. :P (That was something that got on my nerves... I'm not trying to sound mean though, but that wall cling is annoying when a CPU uses it, and never gets off the wall.)

I think as long as it's limited somehow, it would be a pretty fun trick, I can picture him running up the side of Yoshi's Island Brawl... I would hope there's a limit on how long he can run up the wall.

Well, good luck with this. ^_^

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At Aaf... What the *eff*!?

Description of Aafyre's pic post:
That guy is shocked that that little guy "has all the girls and he doesn't", and he's itching his bawlz.

^ LMAO!!!

Can he wall jump?

He should be able to.

You can add a wall jump without sacrificing a special action you know.

ok, I got heartless angel working XD

Oh? Nice! How long does it take to use though?

I'm making adjustments, it works like his side B. but its a lot more restricted in terms of y-axis movement, after using it he will go into a helpless state for balance. which is great. I also have the Down A in air to be hells gate which can be interuppted in you let go the A button :)

Hm... You shouldn't be able to interrupt Hell's Gate... That was one of Sephiroth's laggy HP moves, it has kill power, but is easy to miss with, and, leaves him wide open after the move is done...

Edit: Oh wait, you can cancel it... Duh... But I'm wondering if it would be fair in Brawl like that, it has the hit box in Dissidia when you cancel it... How will this work in Brawl?

Also, how much start up time does it have? As much as it does in Dissidia?

One more thing, how start up does Heartless Angel have? Honestly, it should have a good bit of start up lag, and landing lag after he lands.

I'll send you the file after i fix the charging animation for you to test out. Hopefully, its good. XD

Hm... I hope I'll be awake by then... It's getting close to when I normally sleep... On my messed up schedule, hopefully I'll be able to test this out. XD

Edit: I'll test it out when I wake up.

This PSA needs a lot of work on the animations, since most of them seems unnatural and stiff. Hope that gets revised for the next version!

i got this and ain't lettin it go for a while xD

that's exactly how i fell twards the kratos psa @_@"
havnt tried this Psa out. havnt had the chance. too busy playin ragnarok xD

I got the Wait1, Wait2, Wait3, EscapeN, F, B, Dash, Run, Grab, Grab Attack, Win1, Lose, and many other animations, so don't worry about them, okay?

Might i ask, of those many animations, did you get the attack sword length range complete?

The PSA has the sword hitboxes. I believe we are using mine as a base and combining moves from our repective PSAs.

oh yeah, i forgot that.

if what Hollow said is true, then all we need left is his forward smash, I have it as octoSlash but need to fix up some minor issues with the animation. After that, We will begin the integration and release version 2.0 upon Hollow's and Bigbadbooya approval after I integrate and show them.

Are we using yours as a base or mine?

I based it off mines but imported stuff from yours.

I finished version 2.0 basically, need feedback, would you be ok with me releasing it as a beta? Collaborators will be you, me and BBB

Well, as I said in a PM, I can Brawl hack again... If you need me, let me know.

hmm alright. I just need ya to test out his forward smash move -  octa slash and his down B in air  - GodSpeed. I'll send you the file in a bit.

Okay, sounds good to me. =)

DUN DUN DUUUN XD COMPLETION IS NEARING SUCCESS XD

It might be released very soon. I sent the stuff I have done with Version 2 to Hollow and BigBadBooya to review.

CANT WAIT *Jumps for joy* *then p*sses pants* damn soda *rushes to bathroom*

Your complete Sephiroth vs my complete Cloud.  That'll be a battle worth waiting for XD

Can't wait till completion!

If it's being released soon do you have an estimated release date?

It really depends how quickly I can get feedback from Hollow and BigBadBooya. XD

Ok, then. ;)

You may expect an OP version then. :>.>:

HOORAY! divine does that count as feedback (what hollow said)

Good.

I'll make an OP version if people want one. :-\

@ Hollow - what do you mean? I'd prefer you contact me by PM instead of posting.


EDIT: We can put an OP Version up too - So what do you think?

(sorry im anxious but..) WHENS IT COMING! WHENS THE EPICNESS AT THE END OF THE TRAIL!? AGH! EXCITEMENT PANIC!

I haven't even tested it yet, so if I don't quite like it, it may not be a short while.

Yes, I would like an OP version. :)

Yup, and I'm still waiting on BigBadBooya's review, since he did help me out a lot with the animations. ;D

Well, honestly he needs more lag... Unless DO fixed this. =P

Also, DO, please don't email me. my parents aren't liking that.

haha I only did that once just to say "got it" when you emailed me the file...but yeah, whatever dude.

How's it coming?

I made some revamps of what I sent you. I'm close to done.

Revamps on animations?....I think the PSA is basically done, I adjusted several issues and now just waiting for BBB to finish some animations to add to it.

Okay, then PM me the file when it's done.

You sure? would your parents get upset if I PM the file? lol

:notimp:

*facepalm*

They just don't like when people they don't know email them....I don't have an email of my own, so I have to use my parents'. :P

Oh now it makes sense  ;D. No worries dude, I only email when its pertaining to a relevant topic. But yeah, I'll PM the file to you and BBB when I think its finally ready to release. We're just gonna give his down B in air a new move, kinda like the way Hells gate works but it will consist of heavens Light.


by the way, what animations did you revamp? the evades?

I can't wait!
It's so fun playing just as this Seph. against Cloud! (I'm Cloud)
Hurry! :oshi: lol

haha this new Seperioth is a lot better and more consistent and more fun to use. XD

The more reason to release! :happy: Well, maybe to me? (By PM)

well damn square enix sucks with audio :>.>palm:

Well... Disney anyway, but yeah, Lance got bashed too much honestly...

But yeah, listen to when he does it in KH2, he clearly says "Descend... Heartless Angel!"

Ok what about his strike move when he says thats enough  wouldn't fit for being a down b move as a counter? :af:

KH2/FF7 Seperioth is now 100% complete. Just waiting for BBB and Hollow to reply before I release it.

*awaits*
I hope I get to see it tomorrow when I come home from school(5 PM EST).

Hopefully haha

It has my ok   ;D

YAY. ITS COMING! *celebration music plays*

yup yup. I just need Hollow to agree to release it. then It will be out!!! XD

LETS GO HOLLOW LETS GO *clap clap* LETS GO HOLLOW LETS GO

Hollow should move his butt and agree already xD
I want this Sephy on my SD NOW! :af2:

I haven't tested it yet...

>.>

you guys are impatient....

No you're being too slow as usual :af:

How am i supposed to agree to release something I haven't tested while sleeping? Hm?

You can't play games while sleeping? You fail :af:  XD

You can't spell while awake?
You fail too. ;D

I've never played a gmae, thanks.

It's the auto correct on this IE broswer at my internship xD
Makes me lol hard when i typ in english XD
It doesn't have the english dictionary in it xP

Chill guys haha...Hollow, i'll email the file to you when I get back on my pc. Which is around 12pm my time...gotta go sleep now (using my phone to type this)

You should be more active on SD Studios! xD

Can't you send it quick then go to sleep? ;D

He already went offline, so i guess that means a no xD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGG5DuHyURg

^ haha that video was funny...anyways, I sent over the files for you to test.

@pride -  I'll try to be more active  ;D

Ah the one flaw of this kind of PSA collaboration XD Sending the files back and fourth so that you can keep testing it and stuff.  That's one of the reasons I like to fly solo (since I like to go at my own pace).

But yeah if you needed any help balancing the non OPed version then just ask ;)

Yeah, that's true, I should have used google docs or something, that eliminates the need to email files back and forth...hmm maybe I can use your help. I'll admit sephy was kinda hard to try to balance since his sword is so long (reaches a range of 30 on the x-axis in every attack). Right now, I'm just waiting for Hollow's review again XD

I just got it.

Test it.
*waits*

I think the trick there would be for him to be able to use that huge long reach to his advantage.  His attacks should have good damage and long reach, ok priority overall but fairly meh knockback and attacking speed.  I feel that because of his crazy long sword his main strategy should be sort of spacing and keeping the foe away from you.

Now if course, I don't know the current state of this at the moment and nor do I even know his entire moveset (since I'm assuming you made some moveset changes) so I can't give a true feedback until it is released, but that's just how I feel he would work well.

Yeah, agreed, low damage, good range, low knockback (Hard to get KOs)

you didn't put in my grab impale. i'm doing it now.

oh I thought you were gonna do that.....so that's all that's left?

His start up should be pretty good though, but I think his end lag should be really bad.

okay, i fixed a lot of stuff and emailed the file.

ok, i got it. Going to check what you changed.

Then release? :D

Wow.

I was just looking around this morning to try and sort out a problem with that FF7 stage and somehow stumbled across this.

This is awesome! I use Hallow's Seph for a while, which is great and all (especially the impale grab) but I thought some moves were meh. I know it's kinda LATE for any suggestions, so I'll just leave my noobish feedback till after you release it. I read through all of this and you seem to be putting together the right stuff from your PSAs though and I personally cannot wait to see it!

Release it today. Everything looks fine, and we can always make adjustments later.

:patrick:Do...it....NOW XD 

HOORAY. well until divine gets on DX. DAMN THE WAITING

Ok. new topic or same topic?

 I c u released him.

I got it at 5:00 PM EST.
I'm going to try it out.

new. This one is too big already.

That's what she said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySkafsRm9po

Alright its up.