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Title: good vs bad brawl css preview ^^
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 10:40:13 AM
u ever noticed there are WAAAAAAY too many good guys while there are only 5 bad guys?
i want to replace some of the good guys completely with the bad guys...

here is the changelist, if u want to contribute by making recolors ur welcome ^^

GOOD GUYS... dudes with an X are already ready ^^

mario
X***luigi-> mr L
X***peach-> veran
yoshi
diddy kong
***zelda-> shadow queen
link
***Tlink-> skullkid
samus
-***fox-> panther
X***falco-> leon
kirby
***ness-> dimentio
lucas
pit
***marth->sephiroth
ike
X***captain falcon-> MK ninjas
pkm trainer
pikachu
jiggs
***ice climbers-> hammer bros
olimar
lucario
snake
R.O.B.
***sonic-> shadow
mr. game&watch

so this way the bad guys would be:

wario
bowser
DK
ganondorf
meta knight
wolf
DDD

mr L
panther
leon
seph
hammer bros
shadow
veran
shadow queen
MK ninjas
dimentio
skullkid



(http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6806/roster.jpg)
i dont think this will need the css fix code ^^
i hope u like this project, it isnt anything new, its more a package that needs retextures to be completed...
im going to make a full csp and css pack too, good guys on one side of selection screen and badguys at the other side ^^


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DarkPikachu on March 21, 2011, 10:55:05 AM
you should add Dark Pika to that list


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: LC-DDM on March 21, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
You realise not all the MK Ninja (yes, ninja is the plural, not ninjas) are evil, right?


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Eternal Yoshi on March 21, 2011, 01:37:20 PM
Wario isn't evil. Just a greedy fatty that will do whatever it takes to get money.

Also, MK is neutral.

Add Ridley to the list, though he has a vertexture over Charizard and no Pokemon is truly evil.

Edit: Dark Samus also should be included.


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 02:10:35 PM
i dont want dark versions...
specially not dark pikachu :srs:

and about wario, even if he has his own games, that doesnt make him good...
wario IS mario's counterpart...

and about the ninjas, i know, but still, comparing them with the characters in brawl, they are pretty eviler than the rest of them, except ganondorf and bowser maybe...


on a side note, i already made a css, now i need to edit the images of fox, falco etc, so u see panther and leon directly, than the csp's and done...

oh, and this pack will include a perfect clonation of ike over olimar, so it will be cloud... not naruto cuz its a anime dude ^^ and i never thought he'd fit in brawl...


so....
i hope u gonna use this pack in the future, when it will be released, cuz ima use it ^^



now, about the standards, they will have probably all slots except original modified, link will have the armors by akari_un, one of my fierce deity models, and zero for the awesomeness ^^

mario will have the mafio, maybe the cape mario psa (to make him more hero-ish) and MAYBE, and this is a big MAYBE, KH or standard mickey ^^

i will be using psa's for the first time here, cuz i want a new brawl... so there will be 2 packs, one with psa's and one without (this one WILL have cloud psa)


about the stages................... i dunno if imma package stages too... u could always download them by yourself(D'UH) or download an existing pack...

soooooo.... thats all, ive had too much sugar today, thats why im writing so much...[/useless info]


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: the98pika on March 21, 2011, 02:16:01 PM
Wario isn't evil. Just a greedy fatty that will do whatever it takes to get money.
This^
and wario should be replaced.


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 02:24:48 PM
plz dont tell me to replace him for gengar... its a FKN PKMN!!!!!!
i think pkm shouldnt even be in this brawl, but pikachu doesnt have vertexes, lucario only has MOAR pokemon vertexes, and jiggs.................


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Roo on March 21, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
Flandre Scarlet over Pit. :D


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Albafika on March 21, 2011, 02:37:17 PM
It's fine how it is for me. The bad guys are so damn awesome the good guys need more good guys' assistance to beat 'em. =P


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 02:40:43 PM
Flandre Scarlet over Pit. :D
who's that?

and how about.... WEEGEE as the final ultimate SUPER boss!!!!!
nah, kidding...

ideas please, if u wanna replace wario, it should be a bad guy...


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Albafika on March 21, 2011, 02:43:34 PM
Flandre Scarlet over Pit. :D
who's that?

and how about.... WEEGEE as the final ultimate SUPER boss!!!!!
nah, kidding...

ideas please, if u wanna replace wario, it should be a bad guy...

The girl on his/her avatar

@Roo: Get on my big shiny red button <_<


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Roo on March 21, 2011, 02:49:36 PM
Flandre Scarlet: Extra boss of Touhou 6, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
And the freaking greatest villian ever!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8JmfCYmtHo


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DarkPikachu on March 21, 2011, 02:53:29 PM
well...
if not DP, then how bout this:
https://jump.matthewevan.xyz/i2p/pxbcwxbhxj2wusliwhrb6ym4vcwpihztuf2tfjejrcdzqrmnjuoa.b32/_/ef3012627b9e94911df8b9ee5debbfffc0d2b057ddb82b255484a7fd6a0f1904
(http://)
it is evil after all >:3

Evil Pika's more 'meh...' (why I'm not suggesting him) :/


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Albafika on March 21, 2011, 02:53:51 PM
Flandre Scarlet: Extra boss of Touhou 6, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil.
And the freaking greatest villian ever!!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8JmfCYmtHo[/url]


...Wow, that guy MEMORIZED the fight. XD


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 03:07:05 PM
this is not a topic to request stuff but to sugest stuff that has already been made ^^


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: Roo on March 21, 2011, 03:10:32 PM
It has been made.... by me.... like 4 times. D:

And a full non-MDL0 model import it righ around the corner.


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 21, 2011, 03:53:51 PM
sorry, but i dont think she'll make it... and she's over peach...

NO IMPORTS PLZ, only vertexes and textures and feel free to contribute by recoloring some of the existing characters in the list to full a slot ^^


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DarkPikachu on March 21, 2011, 05:21:24 PM
I think I see why you say no imports...
imports make the entire char un-usable am I right :/

unlike my imports...
the only thing about mine is they must be supported by the motion file
that could cause some probs :/

I just got a new idea thanx to you
a motion file mixer =D

my imports only use Brawl's main bones...
(these bones don't deform the char)
mine have a seperate set of bones for deformation
thus, those bones must be added to the current brawl animations

now with that being said, only 1 motion file is allow'd (for now)
my imports will come with their own motion file,
but it only has support for the brawl char, and the import

so if you were to have 2 of my imports, you'd have to mix the motion files
so that's my idea :)

note: this won't work if importing over an unsupported import
(meaning the animations have been offset)
the import's I make have negative influences to the brawl structure bones
a good example would be 'HipN'
I'll have to move 'Origin' opposite of that to make the char stay in one place
(as to not be influenced by the original chars animation)

you'll have to re-animate my import to add it to a current import


crap...
went aon a rant about an idea again DX
I really need to stop that X(


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: SSJCerious on March 21, 2011, 05:36:38 PM
Tcll, can we get a link or preview of your imports?


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DarkPikachu on March 21, 2011, 08:18:42 PM
I'm only working on one but...

here's a preview of both of them in their slow-walk anomation:
(https://jump.matthewevan.xyz/i2p/pxbcwxbhxj2wusliwhrb6ym4vcwpihztuf2tfjejrcdzqrmnjuoa.b32/_/e1a485999e275f1ef2ce9b57799e2516a2f2f24e8e34961f5cfe758d58596c21)
note: I have Pachi over Pika

Pika's animation remains unaffected while Pachi's animation is in construction
(I lost all my custon animations on him (HDD failure)) :'(

here's the bone structure:
TopN
-TransN
--XRotN
---YRotN
----HipN
-----origin (for scaling him to 4.2, and moving him to the proper position)
------waist
-------LThigh
--------LFoot
-------RThigh
--------RFoot
-------Spine
--------Head
---------LEar
---------REar
---------HaveN
--------LArm
---------LHand
--------RArm
---------RHand
-------Tail1
--------Tail2
---------Tail3
----------Tai4
----ThrowN

where the yellow bones are Pika's/Brawl's bones and the green ones are Pachi's

note: HaveN has no animation key-frames on it (so I think)
it's only a linkage bone for pickup-type items
therefore you can place the bone (on a new model) wherever you want :)

some of the yellow bones such as 'XRotN - HipN' will be morphed by Pika's animations.
so that's where 'origin' comes in...
it moves the entire model back to the TransN location and of course offsets it for it's animation
(length must be the same as the original char's)

now, keep in mind, I don't have an actual release yet,
but the image is proof that it does work. ;)


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: SSJCerious on March 21, 2011, 08:30:32 PM
wow, amazing! you should take bone structure requests once your a pro, thatd be awesome


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DarkPikachu on March 21, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
meh...
I've got better things to do honestly... heh

first off I need to get off my lazy but and actually finish the structure...
what you see there in the img is it JUST barely working...

I'm waiting for TSG's BTE release
I was able to edit a tree made with FW's adder and save
(btw, FW's bones are real: the mdl0 has an edited copy placed at the end of it)

anyways...
because of FW's adder, the game froze when selecting the stage...

if TSG doesn't finish it soon-
actually... I'll ask BJ to add a bone adder and editor to brbx >D


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 22, 2011, 10:19:14 AM
this is a starter pack...
so only vertextures...
and maybe stages


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: DrKoala on March 22, 2011, 02:58:10 PM
Shadow doesn't really count as villain. In pretty much all of the games he's in, he's just an angsty anti-hero, but never a villain.
Skull Kid shouldn't really count, either... it's just being used by Majora's Mask.


Title: Re: good vs bad brawl
Post by: BlueBrain on March 23, 2011, 10:40:52 AM
well, skull kid could be replaced by vaati than, but sorry i dont rly like him (not the character, the hack... hence why i said sorry...)
and on sonic..........................mephiles?????
idk...