Title: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 26, 2011, 07:31:40 AM Pretty much what the title says. I've seen several uploads on youtube of brawl replays where the quality was at 720p. I already know how to upload standard replays using a capture card, but not how to get them in 720p. Does anyone know?
I think this is the right place to ask, anyway. Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Jaklub on April 26, 2011, 07:41:42 AM Dolphin emulator is the way to get HD quality.
Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Puraidou on April 26, 2011, 07:41:48 AM Pretty much what the title says. I've seen several uploads on youtube of brawl replays where the quality was at 720p. I already know how to upload standard replays using a capture card, but not how to get them in 720p. Does anyone know? That depends on how your video editing software is set up.I think this is the right place to ask, anyway. I for one produce 1080P video's on YouTube showing me playing brawl. It all depends on the settings of the software. Suggestions for editing software: Sony Vega Pro, Windows Live Movie Maker Dolphin emulator is the way to get HD quality. No, if your video editing software is not set correctly it will be crappy quality even when using Dolphin.Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: IWasAPerson on April 26, 2011, 07:44:02 AM There's two possibilities for that to happen. The first (and most common) is using the Dolphin emulator which has a 720p upscale output. They use a video recorder to get the footage from Dolphin and make a replay video out of it. Only catch to that is that you have to have a really powerful PC to get a decent framerate while recording video.
The second is that they have a HD capture card. Probably one of the more popular ones is the Hauppage HD one. The thing is, that setup's not true 720p, that's only 480p due to the Wii not having HD in the first place. Also, HD capture cards are fairly expensive compared to normal capture cards. Hope that helps you out, and welcome to the forums. *EDIT* Pride made a very good point too. Your video editor's going to matter a lot in the video quality. Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: vm19961126 on April 26, 2011, 12:56:46 PM There's two possibilities for that to happen. The first (and most common) is using the Dolphin emulator which has a 720p upscale output. They use a video recorder to get the footage from Dolphin and make a replay video out of it. Only catch to that is that you have to have a really powerful PC to get a decent framerate while recording video. The second is that they have a HD capture card. Probably one of the more popular ones is the Hauppage HD one. The thing is, that setup's not true 720p, that's only 480p due to the Wii not having HD in the first place. Also, HD capture cards are fairly expensive compared to normal capture cards. Hope that helps you out, and welcome to the forums. *EDIT* Pride made a very good point too. Your video editor's going to matter a lot in the video quality. well, the wii does have HD video, you just need a HDMI cable, (i'm not sure if its 720p or 1020 orsomething, but thats not the point lol) Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Jaklub on April 26, 2011, 01:24:06 PM Wii does not support HDMI cables and outputting HD video by standard. It must be upscaled.
Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: vm19961126 on April 26, 2011, 01:31:50 PM what do you mean by upscaled because, you can just put a special cable in the wii and then you'll be able to get 720p
Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Jaklub on April 26, 2011, 01:41:05 PM It's not a HDMI cable for sure. 480p is as high as a Wii can go. To get anything beyond, picture must be upscaled.
Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: vm19961126 on April 26, 2011, 03:20:05 PM hmm okay...
Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 26, 2011, 03:25:27 PM Oh. Thanks for all the replies and for doing so in such a short amount of time =D
Say I want to try the Dolphin method. I'd start Dolphin, run the replay, then record my screen using some software, then import the resulting recording into Vegas and render/compress it, right? But then more problems arise, because I'm completely clueless as to how to use Dolphin - I've attempted already to ask on their support forums for how to load Brawl replays/apply codes while running SSBB, but no one replied. I say this because when I load Brawl on Dolphin, obviously my replays aren't there and it defaults to the vanilla textures/music/etc, and it would be kind of lame to have to settle for that knowing that some other people have already figured it out. So if it isn't too much to ask, does anyone know exactly what I'd have to do in order to set up Dolphin to be able to use my SSBB replays and textures? Also, yeah. The Wii definitely cannot go above 480p. Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Soul Nami on April 26, 2011, 03:52:54 PM It's not a HDMI cable for sure. 480p is as high as a Wii can go. To get anything beyond, picture must be upscaled. >.> huh?I remember seeing an HDMI adaptor for Wii that plugs in the USB port of the Wii. Then you just plug the output of the cable in the USB adaptor and the input of the cable into the TV. There's a thread for this on KCMM, too. EDIT: Found it. :P http://gear.ign.com/articles/107/1079857p1.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Same for what everyone else says. I used to have a capture card that could record 1080i, but couldn't because I didn't have an HDTV back then. So really, it's just the kind of capture card you have and how the settings are set up. Also, to run hacks on Dolphin, don't you need a virtual SD card on your PC? Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Puraidou on April 26, 2011, 04:04:02 PM Also, to run hacks on Dolphin, don't you need a virtual SD card on your PC? You run an ISO in Dolphin, just use Wiiscrubber to inject the files into the ISO.Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 26, 2011, 05:29:44 PM You run an ISO in Dolphin, just use Wiiscrubber to inject the files into the ISO. Okay, so what I should do is get an SSBB iso, replace the texture/music files, replace the stock replays with the ones I want to record, then screencap that? (disclaimer: yeah obviously I already own SSBB) Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Soul Nami on April 26, 2011, 05:30:55 PM You run an ISO in Dolphin, just use Wiiscrubber to inject the files into the ISO. Yes, I know, but I've also heard of people using the Wii Menu in Dolphin with a Virtual SD.WiiScrubber sounds like the way to go, I wouldn't want to download all these files for the SD + ISO JUST so you can use hacks XD But using the virtual SD will take up more space, too. Okay, so what I should do is get an SSBB iso, replace the texture/music files, replace the stock replays with the ones I want to record, then screencap that? (disclaimer: yeah obviously I already own SSBB) Yeah, but just use WiiScrubber on the ISO to replace the files. And then you're set.Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: TheHatMan on April 26, 2011, 05:58:36 PM Ok....to be clear: Brawl runs on 480p
The highest the Wii can run at isnt 480p, its actually 720p, the only thing is...very few developers actually use that graphic power for the Wii With HDMI cables, it sharpens the graphics to games REGISTERED for HDMI...Brawl isnt one of them To answer the original question. You can record directly from your TV using a High Quality Capture Card...or a PVR (they record in the highest quality). No need to download Dolphin and become a pirate Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 27, 2011, 12:19:24 AM I'm not a pirate, I bought SSBB for $50 the day it came out.
Regardless, I don't want to buy a capture card if I can use wiiscrubber and avoid having to buy stuff. Now I just need how to figure out how to use wiiscrubber =| Does anyone know if there's a guide somewhere that lists which files on the ISO correspond to what files in-game? Specifically, just the replays/music/textures section. Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Puraidou on April 27, 2011, 02:53:57 AM 3. Downloading and Using Brawl Hacks Now that you have Homebrew set up and an app to load files with, you'll need files to load. Where can you find files? Right here of course! Look around the forums and BrawlVault to find hacks that you like and download them to your computer. All files must be named correctly in order for them to work. Look at the lists below for where to put the files and what to name them. This list works for both the File Patch code and Riivolution, as long as you used the File Patch XML for Riivolution. (Replace the (X)'s in the file locations with the proper SD drive location and disc region. Characters Characters belong in the following location: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\Fighter\(Character Name)\ Here are the names for each character: Character Colors by File Number: The transforming characters (Zero Suit Samus/Samus, Wario/Wario Man, Bowser/Giga Bowser, Pokemon Trainer/Squirtle/Ivysaur/Charizard) all need .pac files along with .pcs files for textures to work correctly. Stages Normal stages belong in the following location: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\stage\melee\ SSE stages (NOT MODEL SWAPPED STAGES, only the actual SSE stages) belong in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\stage\adventure\ You'll know if a stage is an actual SSE stage because it's file name will be a bunch of numbers. (Ex. 420101.pac) Stage Names: Music Music only works with File Patch code versions over 3.1 (and Riivolution of course). Songs belong in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\sound\strm\ A full list of songs and what to name them can be found here: [url]http://www.mediafire.com/?jgmd833x1l0bpjn.[/url] (Not made by me, but I forgot who made it... Sorry!) *Note* If your music sounds like static, or the song cuts off randomly and a new song starts, or the song doesn't sound like it should, first try defragmenting your SD Card. If that doesn't work, back up everything on your SD Card and then format it. Sound Effects Sound effects can ONLY be used with Riivolution. The most stable File Patch Code (3.5.1) DOES NOT support sound effects. The file "smashbros_sound.brsar" is the file used for sound effects in game, such as character/announcer voices. This file is often edited for completely new characters. It belongs in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\sound\ Menus Most hacks for the menus are in the mu_menumain.pac, sc_selcharacter.pac, and sc_selmap.pac files. The mu_menumain.pac file belongs in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pfmenu2\ (Not a typo. Create a new folder in your RSBE folder called "pfmenu2" for the mu_menumain.pac.) The other files above belong in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\menu2\ System Files The system files that are most commonly edited are common3.pac and common5.pac All of the common_.pac files belong in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\system\ Strap Loaders This is the screen that appears before the opening movie which reminds you to wear the wrist strap/don’t hit people. It’s very popular to edit. It belongs in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\menu\strap\ Rel Files These files allow you to replace a stage in Brawl with a stage that uses a different Brawl stage as a base. For example, if somebody created a stage based off of Final Destination, you could use a rel file to load it over Hanenbow instead. They belong in: (X):\private\wii\app\RSB(X)\pf\module\ For help in naming or creating rel files, visit this page: [url]http://ssbbcustom.wikia.com/wiki/Module_files.[/url] Quoted from "The Complete N00B's Guide to Brawl Hacking". Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Jaklub on April 27, 2011, 07:24:04 AM The highest the Wii can run at isnt 480p, its actually 720p, the only thing is...very few developers actually use that graphic power for the Wii Wait. HD on Wii is actually possible? What titles actually use it?Sorry for incompetence. Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 27, 2011, 03:13:21 PM Well, yes. I know that much (from what you quoted), but when I load the ISO I have a bunch of this:
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/259/unledca.png) How do I go from that to \pf\fighter or any of the other stuff? Ha ha, sorry if I come off as clueless (I am). Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: sph34r on April 28, 2011, 01:18:19 AM /facepalm
Yeah, okay. Maybe not that clueless. Found it. God that was lame. edit: I have all my textures/music replaced, but I don't know what the directory for replays is. On the SD card it's "rp" but I can't find the corresponding directory on the ISO. halp? Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: Diddy Kong on April 28, 2011, 04:13:33 AM /facepalm Yeah, okay. Maybe not that clueless. Found it. God that was lame. edit: I have all my textures/music replaced, but I don't know what the directory for replays is. On the SD card it's "rp" but I can't find the corresponding directory on the ISO. halp? thats because the disc doesnt contain replays, the rp data is in either the system memory (the wii/your vault data), OR on your sd card, to the replay stuff you just keep that on your card or the wii memory and launch the replay on the injected iso how you do normally Title: Re: 720p brawl? Post by: TheHatMan on April 29, 2011, 09:40:05 AM Wait. HD on Wii is actually possible? What titles actually use it? Sorry for incompetence. Sonic Colors is one of the rare ones. Brawl was on the list but Nintendo canceled it due to high costs. I forget the other ones. |