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umm what if we want to learn how to vertex, but cant afford 3DSMax? i mean i would love to learn how to vertex, but i dont have money to buy 3DSMax.. :(

Current skill level: 5/10

Current skill level: 5/10

Guys ... if you don't have AIS, COLLADA, or mk64n's script, get them here :
[url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=13061.0[/url]

MK64n's script and how to install it are described in step 6.
AIS is in Step 1, and the COLLADA plugin in Step 2.

Also, at least reading said tutorial should really help you guys to follow more easily the classes. Since I'm covering all the basis. (But SW will teach us more stuff than my simple tutorial, or course.)

Also, don't worry too much about that part:
I am not entirely sure about how true it is ... yet. But there's been reports that 2010 works too.
If you have 3DS MAX 8, by all means, keep it. Taking 2010 over 8 won't make your vertex hacks better, anyway.

could you/someone use fraps or somethign to record this? i want to learn, but i have school and stuff

SEPTEMBER 20th @ 5:00pm PST

my time is EST so i don't know if it's 5 o'clock in your time, please tell me the time i should be here for my time and also I get home at 5:30 can you extend the time to 6:00 PM?

does that mean i have to be online at midnight?!?!?!?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Screen name: Mariofan1138
Current skill level: 2/10 I've done vertexing, but upon export/patching I've failed miserably.
Age: 17

I have all the supplies, but I use Photoshop instead of Gimp; I assume there won't be any problems.

@Miacis
SEPTEMBER 20th @ 8:00pm EST not 7:00pm. EST is 3 hours off of PST

-AiS(WHERE DO I GET THIS I searched it on google I could not find it  :>.>:
-3DSmax 8
  3DS max COLLADA script(SAME AS AIS)
  Mariokart64n Script(same as AIS)

@Miacis
SEPTEMBER 20th @ 8:00pm EST not 7:00pm. EST is 3 hours off of PST

does that mean i have to be online at midnight?!?!?!?!?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

If you guys don't get it sometimes I'll be here to tutor you. :D

can you be my tutor?

Of course. I can be anyone's.

Of course. I can be anyone's.

I think SW planned on people following his instructions at the same time as he was showing/explaining them. So that everyone is able to do the steps at the same time, and so that he can answer to questions all at once, more easily ...
Just giving written lessons is also quite different in a way, since you need to be able to motivate yourself and do things on your own, instead of with the group. And if you have questions, you'll have to contact the teacher on your own, sometimes have to wait a long time, etc ... All of those damaging your motivation meter. .-.

I understand if some people can't attend all classes and wish to just get tutorials, but the interest of the class is that ... it's a class. .-.

Could I actually come on as a fellow instructor? The more points of view on one topic the better. I'm almost positive I can offer a hand with the creativity lesson.

I'd love to join, but...
1. I've just been grounded for a month.

Grounded? Aren't you like 18?

Yes I am. I don't wanna talk about it. Don't worry about me.

dont know if im a bit late here, but mostly I do animations, and psa's I never release I would like to get onto something new

Vamayro
Skill level 0/10
Age 16

does anyone know where I can get torent for 3dsmax

cool school of vertexing :D
i already know how to do i become almost as good as KTH then he made the hacks before his true mario/megaman V2/that char. over Pit i forgot the name on and got a import model over Wolf too
but 3ds max 8 stopped working

WOW! I'm so thrilled at all the users wanting to learn!  I'm excited to get this thing started. @FaIIenKing I understand where you are coming from, I learn better by just reading instructions myself so I would for sure like to have just some videos and some homework for everyone to do on their own time.  But you see, that's just not how i want to do it. I want it to be a live interactive class, where i can pick up on peoples problems and help them out the moment they happen.  I know september 20th @ 5pm pst may not work for everyone, and that sucks but its the way this class is going to work. If you can't make it because you'd rather go hang out with friends or go to an actual school.... then quite frankly I don't want you in my class.  ( hard to explain this but,  If you chose real school over brawl mods, Then you probably won't be a huge contributor to the community, only releasing stuff when you have time off from school and friends. School and freinds are more important anyways. You don't need this as a distraction, it is very time consuming)   I'd rather not waste my time on some people who MIGHT continue making things for the brawl modding community. I am looking for some devoted/motivated hobbyists here. I am only one person and I will be working tremendously hard on this school to try and boost the quality and output of hacks on the vault.  I am clearing my schedual to pass on my learning, If people don't show up on the day zero. It's my way of weeding out the casual passer-by-ers. I need to focus on the most motivated users on this forum!  sorry @Majora You can maybe be a guest speaker for a portion of a class and give out a few tips or something, but I would like to handle all the teaching myself.  I don't want any mixed signals or different styles of teaching. I need to hammer my method into their cores so everyone understands the basics of what I do, the way I do it. After that they can build on what they know! also DO NOT BE LATE FOR CLASS !    i will be taking attendance at exactly 5:05 pm   

Okay, I have everything I need and I'm willing to attend! Only thing I want to know. What's your time zone cuz I want to be able to be on time with this "class".

name: Bi0bear
Skill level: 01/10
Age:23

i have everything except GIMP. is photoshop CS4 ok or should i get GIMP?

name: Bi0bear
Skill level: 01/10
Age:23

i have everything except GIMP. is photoshop CS4 ok or should i get GIMP?

Photoshop CS4 should be absolutely fine.  Infact, it's probably better.

off topic:

soooo many noobs in here, who only have 1 or 2 or maybe 3 or 4 posts...

Tell me what time that is in eastern standard time and I'm in :l

Remember to put me as a tutor.

Miacis put a sign-up for tutors in the tutorials and guides section

1. I posted that before he did. 2. Thanks for the reminder. :srs: 3. No double posting...

*is surprised nobodies commented about my age since I'm probably one of the older ones here*

The OP should be updated to have links to download the things necessary (well, minus 3DS Max and Photoshop, of course).

Also, could anybody link me to the things I'm missing? That'd be lovely, I want to get to DL 'em as soon as I get home...

Also, could anybody link me to the things I'm missing? That'd be lovely, I want to get to DL 'em as soon as I get home... (I know the links are around the whole thread, but, please, bear with me..)

Actually they can just look up a program called timestopper, which basically lets you reset the install date on any software to whatever day you want. Meaning you can essentially run the program in trial mode forever =3

I've tried that program once, and it made my trial time go from 25 days to 0 days. Besides, having to re-change the date every 30 days sounds like a bother to me. I generally do it the """clean way""" and activate the product like a good boy.
That counts for other programs as well. Some Trial versions are limited in functions anyway....

If by *clean way* you mean keygen, yeah, I prefer that way sometimes too, but only when there's a snowballs chance in hell that I'm gonna afford the program ( like I said 3DS Max is WAY over my budget....I could get a used/new golf cart for that much!) so if you have working keygens for 3DS Max 8 and 3DS Max 10 I'd apriciate it. Also would apriciate it if you sent them via pm (since you'd get warned otherwise) and with mediafire as the download link. I can't wait for the vertex class to start, cause there's SOO many characters I want to make: Tina: DOA4/DOA Dimentions: Gonna try to make her in her cat suit(The white one) over peach. Gokudura: KHR: cause he would look sexy on link or snake, who could use their articals for bomb types =3 Marta: Probably just going to try and import her somehow when BJ finishes new BB Hinata: A GOOD one, not that the ones on the vault already aren't good...they're just...yeah... Sakura: Same as the Hinata hacks, UGH the ones on the vault make me wanna cry T-T Kabuto: Well, orochimaru's on the vault, why not Kabuto D:

If by *clean way* you mean keygen, yeah, I prefer that way sometimes too, but only when there's a snowballs chance in hell that I'm gonna afford the program ( like I said 3DS Max is WAY over my budget....I could get a used/new golf cart for that much!) so if you have working keygens for 3DS Max 8 and 3DS Max 10 I'd apriciate it. Also would apriciate it if you sent them via pm (since you'd get warned otherwise) and with mediafire as the download link.

I can't wait for the vertex class to start, cause there's SOO many characters I want to make:
Tina: DOA4/DOA Dimentions: Gonna try to make her in her cat suit(The white one) over peach.

Gokudura: KHR: cause he would look sexy on link or snake, who could use their articals for bomb types =3

Marta: Probably just going to try and import her somehow when BJ finishes new BB

Hinata: A GOOD one, not that the ones on the vault already aren't good...they're just...yeah...
Sakura: Same as the Hinata hacks, UGH the ones on the vault make me wanna cry T-T
Kabuto: Well, orochimaru's on the vault, why not Kabuto D:

Are...Are you RPing? :srs:

No, are you trolling :srs: Actually the whole poste is relivent, because after this class I'll hopefully be able to do some decent vertexing. Hence why I mentioned what I'm planning to make once the class is through XP that's if I get everything straight and learn it quickly...

[url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=13061.0[/url]

Over here. Steps 1, 2 and 6 send you to the right links. There's also the 3.04 COLLADA installer in step 2 if the regular installer doesn't work.

Also, I will repeat myself here ... But to anyone who plans to attend SW's class : try this tutorial at home. This will make your life much easier, you'll be able to understand the whole import/Export process, and focus on the more tricky parts of the class.
At least read it.

As for where to find 3DS MAX 8 Trial version, I do believe you can contact Pride/Puraidou/"That guy with thousands of posts without being a mod/admin". And if you need help activating it to use it more than 30 days, just contact me.

Since when am I trolling?
I simply asked what was the cause of that. As I've seen you post something like:
Cindy: Lalala I like that hack
Lucy: Moo me poop I like this hack.
It's...retarded and no one else does it except in RP threads.
Not saying it's bad to be unique, but only if it's appropriate. :srs:

On Topic now...

I Want to join too,please  :(

@Majora You can maybe be a guest speaker for a portion of a class and give out a few tips or something, but I would like to handle all the teaching myself.  I don't want any mixed signals or different styles of teaching. I need to hammer my method into their cores so everyone understands the basics of what I do, the way I do it. After that they can build on what they know!

can somebody help me with the timezone? Right now is the hour about 10:45?
Anyway:
Screen Name: Iwvi
Skill level: 6/10
Age: 17

I wanna learn but don't even have the programs to begin with T.T

My Boai, that is what all Torrent sites er, I mean warriors strive for :D

That...doesn't seem wise, Star. If you hammer YOUR meathod into their cores, we'll just have a bunch of StarWaffle impersonators running about. You NEED different styles of teaching so that everyone that's here can put together what they like from whoever they like. That's how I came up with my drawing methods and some vertexing methods too.

Also, I may have a prior engagement on Tuesday, just letting you now ahead of time. I'll have to check my schedules

I just noticed this now! What do I do to register!?

-3DSmax 9 (Sorry, I only have 9. Is that alright?)

3DS max COLLADA script (Got ColladaMax 3.05C from Miacis' tutorial. Is that the same thing?)

The mariokart method works fine in 2008-2010, vertex wise anyway, I've tried it myself. Works great with less patching needed :D still need to patch stuff, but only annoying things (Like Links pouches X_X )

I just realised that the classes start tomorrow.  Good luck to all you newbies out there.  I'll need to set up my school after this too.  Though I'm not sure what exactly I would teach XD

make Animations i think it should be
for PSAing it is easy to just read guides or look in other PSAs (thats how i learned to make PSAs)

Except people had compatibility problems with 200X versions, and the very author of the script mentionned it wasn't compatible with these versions. Because the script for ColladaMax is supposed to be for 3DS MAX 8.

Dunno how you did to get it to work, if you found another download than my own for Colladamax 2010 or something. Or maybe you ere lucky, I don't know.
Fact is : In 3DS MAX 8 it's working much better on average. From experience.

And what do you even mean with "less patching needed" ?

Student list updated,  man even if only 10% of you guys complete this course i'll be such a happy panda.

Student list updated,  man even if only 10% of you guys complete this course i'll be such a happy panda.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! GEARS OF WAR 3 comes out tomorrow, im in a bit of a pickle.......... attend classes or gears 3??? what to do.......... brawl hacking or gears 3 ??????

If you can't make it because you'd rather go hang out with friends or go to an actual school.... then quite frankly I don't want you in my class.

Quite the amount of people that wanna learn how to vertex!
Hope everything goes well with the class Star and I wish you all the best of luck when you start class as Vertexing is not easy your first time through.

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! GEARS OF WAR 3 comes out tomorrow, im in a bit of a pickle.......... attend classes or gears 3??? what to do.......... brawl hacking or gears 3 ??????

Easy. Gears of war 3 can be obtained and played any day after its release. But how many times do someone offer vertex classes?

can we skip class 0?

damn !

5:05 pm ??

i m screw'd ;F

i cant wait to be king for this class to start!

GameWatching, that's 5 PM Eastern USA time.
For you (and I), it will occur at 2AM.  :af:
(But I'll still be able to be here for a bit, myself.)

School of vertex starts today! In a few hours....

*Gets high with his fellow classmates LegendarySuperMario and SmashClash before class starts*

The real question is, how many of these single post newbies will actually attend the classes?  If the vast majority of you do, I will be pleasantly surprised

I got banned before he called me.

Dammit! I forgot to watch the time DX so sorry I'm a little bit late. (Hopefully that's okay?)

Oh yeah, I'm "here"^_^

I swear I'm gonna be on time for the actual classes, or close to it, but right now I'm multitasking X_X

You spoke when he was doing role call.

When he said not to.

Too late.

same here. :/

Well yeah they are very strict cause it's serious business. :srs:

Think about it. It's like not going to a job interview. You obviously don't care as much as you think, and didn't leave a good impression.

When i came back i noticed star said Admiral and then when i said "Wheres MarioDk?" I got banned then i scrolled up and saw that star said anyone who talks is banned and i said D***

yeah i understand ohh well no use of complaining about it hopefully i have better lluck next time most likely i wont have to have the temptation of other things so i should be good for future events

Yeah man that's the attitude right there. There's always next time. ;)

Besides, if you get cool with the right people, you might get someone to teach you how to Vertex.

appreciate it......... but it seems hard to get cool with people on the site because most of the time if you arent already a friend they dont acknowledge you or your opinions too much at least thats how its been for me

What happened to the link to the xat room?

Well im happy i made it but....Im sadly still missing these following supplies:
-AiS
-3DSmax 8
-3DS max COLLADA script
-Mariokart64n Script

If you can help me with any of that i would be thankful ^_^

I went to the xat link just now, and it says I need to be invited and the chat's private. I'm at a different computer than last week, so is because of that (and do I need to be re-invited), or does this message pop up for everyone?

nope no homework this week. next week there will be =|

sorry i couldn't attend the class guys ;-;

My connection got weird and started failing at some point. Did we do anything after exporting the edits? do we have to do something for next class?.

Beyond just taught us how to patch if our edits didn't turn out right.

He's also going to be on the xat chat room tomorrow at 4pm PST to help students who missed some things from today's class.

Waffles said that you just need to vertex, though you can export and texture it if you like.

Okay, so to anyone who has a link to the class, I will be teaching a lesson tomorrow at 4 pm pst ( which is 7 pm est for me) on how to port. not file renaming or .rel porting, but real porting. anyone that is in sw's class can come and ask question and stuff. you will need the following:

-brawl box
-the tabuu program
-This link with the list of bones ([url]http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=258606[/url])
-Fitcharacter.pac, fitcharacter00.pac, and fitcharactermotionetc.pac of the character you want to port and the character you want to port over
-a computer

i will start at 7:05 est. this is a once time class.

--Thanks Star for letting me post this--

don't worry you have to miss 3 classes to be kicked out.

Aw, I would have loved to be in on that. Unfortunately I can't make ANYTHING after 5:00 EST on Wednesdays

  I will be teaching a lesson tomorrow at 4 pm pst ( which is 7 pm est for me) on how to port. not file renaming or .rel porting, but real porting.

don't worry you have to miss 3 classes to be kicked out.

Yeah, I have some work to do and won't be home until 8:30. what do I do?

class starts in 30 mins ppl who want to learn how i port

also, he said a reaosnj y he doesnt do class on teh weekends

near the beginning of the thread. i think. might of been during class 0 that he said it.

anyway, class/the tutorial for porting is goign to be thursday 10-6-2011 at the same time as regular classes.

Because theres no school on weekends. ever. thats just cruel.

Oh my gosh, I totally forgot about class >.< I'm going to start setting an alarm. Was there anything really important that I missed?

i still was never taught how to patch, so the hammer didnt come out right, but i still liked how it did.

So, Do I give my homework to you ?_?

I think that I&#039;m going to have to drop out. I didn&#039;t expect that I would have so much other work that needed to be done for regular school. Anyway, thanks for the opportunity ^^

Unless his state worsens considerably

Speaking of which, do you know what happened this time?

Pervy: 8.5

Spex: 7.5

Neuro: 8.5

I only have 2 marked absences for you LSM.  I don't count lates =P

Just spherify > relax > relax > spherify.  thats all, Its more about exporting though.

Students:
A
-Spex130