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Hi everyone! I am pikamaxi! or I am called "pikazz" here on KCMM
I make mostly models and brawl hacks for my machinimas or for the machinima group "Virtual Smash": http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualSmash (http://www.youtube.com/user/VirtualSmash)

if my model turn out to be really great, I release them here



I hope you find something that you like!

Downloads
playable Sandbag over pikachu: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=22295

Melee Mewtwo v1.0: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24139

Mewtwo Color Pack (Made by AGFP with my model): http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24156

Dry bones Import: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24161

Dry Bowser Import: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24276

Scraggy Import: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24335

Reviews
Mewtwo Over Lucario review by Mewtwo2000


Dry Bowser over Bowser Review by Carnage

A template of how to write a Review:

I can't wait to see some of the work you produce.

thankies :3

I hope I can produce some works someone likes

updated with pics and more completed models :]

added also (hexed) and (import)!
hexed are I did it all manually in hex
imported is DAE import!

^note this^

Pikazz, I know how to merge two MDL0s together in the new BrawlBox, as I wanna give ZSS the Captain's helmet, but I don't find any 'Save' option or something...As soon as I leave the Model Editor, everything resets. Is there a way to save the fused models in the Model Editor?

I have only seen you can add a extra material and shader with the new brawlbox O.o
I dont believe you can in model editor

EDIT: tried every model I got!
bowser and pink buddy bomb froze O.o even as a stage
Bomb-omb field, room and bowser platform got texture, but wrong!
(http://i53.tinypic.com/e6vt37.png)
not so good example but bowser platform should use 3 types of texture but here it's only one D:

see somethings is wrong about it's DrawOpa and polygon :<

I like everything I see so far =3 I'm assuming Dusknoir's over Lucario?

Either way nice stuff, looking forward to seeing more ;)

yeah, he is over lucario x3
he is 100% glitchfree if I take away the grafphics may be in the center of the stage

updated the Download sections with Playable sandbag

So, how did you added Mario's cap over Sandbag? I need to know how, as I must add Falcon's helmet over my J.E.N.O.V.A ZSS hack, but the design is a little disturbing... Blame Square Enix for the design of the original character, but I need to have Falcon's helmet on ZSS, and I don't know how to do this...

everything in hex editor my friend, everything in hex editor

So, I've opened up my hex editor with ZSS at the left and the Falcon helmet at the right (resized to fit ZSS's head), and now, what should I do?

sorry to disappoint you but I will not put a tutorial UNTIL the mariobag works ingame :srs:
sadly, it has ingame lag and I dont know how to fix it :/
can't give out a tutorial that doesn't work? that sounds silly xD

Hun? But I thought your Sandbag worked? Or are you experiencing the same problems as I with the new BrawlBox? Anyhow my own model thread has some problems with models that needs to be fixed, so I put links just in case someone would know how to rig perfectly a model, or turn it into a MDL0 etc...

nope, it only worked on dolphic but never on real wii.
and no, I dont have the same problem as you about the sandbag cause it wasn't DAE from the start xD

a really huge thanks for Camonster for importing this little fella for me :D
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2jd06d1.png)
will do this as a stage and see if this has texture wrong as the other models I have

Nice stuff you got here bro! Is Dusknoir over Pikachu or what?

nope, dusknoir is over lucario :3

sandbag is over pikachu while the rest of the models is over olimar x3

shame on that SM64 bowser i would so download that if you ever find how to make it work i will be waiting xD i thinke we should make every retroest  3d model of the fighters bowser(SM64) would be an epic win :P maybe finding either mario tennis bowser model or mario party bowser model would be good aswhell if that one faills xD

lookie whats working ingame!
(http://i56.tinypic.com/ogfa5l.png)
Next up! make it the right size, add some ghosts, change the sky and make a proper collusion data x3

I am pretty sure it's the polygon and the problem with the materials D:

but that would be awesome x3

Looking good so far. Don't forget to add shadows to the stage as well.

Need help with anything, let me know.

thanks for letting me know x3

not used by doing stages but always wanted

(http://i43.tinypic.com/29co0m9.png)
the stage and the backgrond :3
however the background is imported thanks to Camonster but the problem is it doesn't work ingame D: it gets lag and the stages pieces is all over the place D:
will discover why however.

need to add more shadings and things like ghosts on the stage :3

So you will try mewtwo  thats great just some sugestion instead of going for his melee looks you should try first pokemon stadium mewtwo it would look epic xD and second why not making brawl mewtwo trophy playable aswhell since i bet lots of people will go for his melee look.

hey, that was a great idea :3
but I hope it works with N64 or trophy/PBR

however which is which I will try to rig it over lucario's bones xD

glad you like it i dont know if there is a pokemon stadium mewtwo model around but the brawl trophy turned into a playable character should be the easiest since you only need to put him in t stance and rig the bones and hes a mdlo already xD

true but I am sure my BB doesn't want to export D:

and I hate looking for models, seems they dont existing on my internet lol D:

Same with me  i cant find any models lol only on that model recource website :S thats why i sugested brawl mewtwo trophy since i think you can use the older version of bralbox to eport the mdl0 right?

found a old melee model of mewtwo :D but it's obj D:
need to rig it and it doesn't have texture lol D:

this site has melle mewtwo textures here
http://www.textures-resource.com/wii_gamecube/supersmashbrosmelee/index.html

just click on mewtwo xD

Nice imports pikazz. I'm looking forward to the Mewtwo rig. :)

why thank you :D

I hope it goes well xD

Have you received my PM? I'm somewhat...desparate to find someone who could either rig or hex the models i've sent, as Justin's tutorial didn't helped at all. Could it be possible to edit or make these character either by rigging or hexing, please? Please reply to me. Thanks.

I answer it if you wondering.

if you want pikazz mewtwo rig compatible with your psa shouldnt you give him the fix taill mewtwo boneset? so the taill doest get wierd??

Sure, I could do that.

on extra though, I think I need a proper mewtwo model D:
my model's tail is "broken" O.o
but I dont know if mewtwo's tail should be like that

anyone that has a mewtwo model so I can see? :3
am little afraid cause my OBJ mewtwo doesn't want the texture D:

I'll send you a tail fix model I downloaded some time ago.

is it a OBJ or something else? D:
are little afraid against OBJ cause they like to be only one polygon ;_;

It's the Lucario vertex. I'll send it to you for the bone structure.

already have the bonestructure of lucario O.o
is the Lucario's vertex's bone structure diffirent?

The tail is just extended to fix up the tail glitch on the Mewtwo vertex.

dont need it :3 can make it affect in "bone" weight so it looks nice :3

but I need a new model! this doesn't work ;_;

NEW CHALLANGE IS COMING!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/e6x8cg.png)

and this is how it looks like when it's has animation!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/jiypa9.png)
pretty good huh? :D
but you will see some issues like the leg but I only fixed the head and bust and started to Left arm xD

however, this is a BAD model! it's only one polygon AND it's doesn't have any texture at all, the tail is broken and the eyes is missing!
I need a new model D:
perfer one that isn't obj from the start D:

Thanks for Camonster for Importing this!

awnsome it looks preety well animated just need a few fixes also you want a melee mewtwo model with textures? i think theres one here http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=35136.0
also that one looks preety good we can totally tell lucario stance right there xD

Pikazz, how did you rigged Mewtwo bones to it's model? I would need help, too.

So the import has the tail issue as well?

I was looking forward to this because MarioKart64n's might look damn good, but the way the tail was, always disappointed me.

I tried that but the MAX file gets error if I trying to open it ;_;

believe it's my model that causing the "broken" tail x3
if I get a "perfect" one I will see if it are broken or not :3

Still got this on my computer:

could you send it? 83
looks delicious!

Sent ya the goods model scene.
And before you ask, it's a 3dsmax 2010 scene.

oooh, I will play with this baby! :D

Camonster imported it into BB to looking for errors, it was none! (except the one I haven't give it bones yet x3)

EDIT: there is something weird about your mewtwo D:
it's way of the middle there it's XYZ is D:
even if "model" itself are in the middle, the XYZ is far away D:

how to fix please?

I see what you mean, but that's how it already was when I got that model sent to me.
Shouldn't really effect the model when you rig, export and import the model.

Pikazz wanted this to be posted.

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2q2k361.png)

It's beautiful. But do the animations work?

*squeals*

That looks perfect. Is it rigged and everything, or is that just the model?

Hey! That's my model! I ripped that and sent it to ds22! I feel more important than I am so I decided to post this! =P

 I LOVE YOU PIKAZZ!

Hey isn't that the model I sent you a long time ago? xD

I knew that it was going to be useful someday  :af:

also I repeat again: I love the Mewtwo over there ^

(^,^)

pikazz i hope you can rigg that mewtwo and fix that xyz problem because the taill looks perfect xD

It's Oshtoby's model (ripped from Melee) that I sent to Pikazz.
The one AGFanProduction sent me had a really screwed up left hand and was a bit to blocky.
Just to make everything clear.

wow, many response *_*
no, it's just the model, we wanted to see if it was any problem with the model like texture, any things missing ect like my model before had D:
it did effect the model when I exported it first O.o, want to fix it cause i am not sure if this will also affect with the bones D:

I really need to fix this before I add bones to it D:
need to ask someone who's pro with 3ds max

mewtwo looks sexy. hope he works out for ya

@Pikazz
PM Justin712, as he knows a lot about 3dsmax.
I also noticed that some parts of Mewtwo were untextures.

I will x3

wait, where? O_o

Right under his chest and parts of his hands.

we tested mewtwo in brawl!
IT WORKED! WITHOUT ANY SLOWDOWN OR ANYTHING :D
buuuut there is always some flaws
(http://i43.tinypic.com/24eyv5l.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/dr5l4g.png)
(love this profile pic of him except for his "eye nose" O.o)
so many eyes! his belly, fingers, thing on his feets and his nose has the eye texture D:
and his legs want to have the tails texture D:

I believe it's a easy fix however xD

more flaws, sometimes and you press start and have the "help" viewed, he will go much brighter O.o

He is textured in those areas its just with the brawlbox lighting it doesn't show up well.

Glad for you it worked, Pikazz! ;) I'll send you a PM for something I don't wanna be released publicly for now, as I need help to rig a model or two...

@Camonsters
I know it isn't textures due to the fact I never assigned a texture to those polygons when I sent it to Pikazz (and I suspect I didn't properly assign the already assigned textures in 3dsmax either).

can try about the texture I got in the zip if we forgot something O.o

Looks awesome (besides the texture errors). I'm so using this once it's rigged and released. :)

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=17547.msg723856#msg723856
Could also be the reason for the texture glitches.

I thought so aswell O.o
must try to change them

wow, 3 have ask for making textures *_*

I can't believe you imported Mewtwo into brawl. Nice, but, like a couple of people are saying, it needs work.

I know, the bones isn't rigged :3

and the texture flaw but however, it's great with the mewtwo model <3

i take it you dont need the mewtwo model i have anymore :D

w00t, over 1000 views :D
no, I dont need it x3

Mewtwo is one of the most wanted characters xD also notice on his feet there is a small place that isnt textured also but if you can rig the bones i bet someone would fix the texture for you xD

started with the rigging now!
damn, his jawN bone is hard to get right D:
but I will not give up x3

I would personally have that bone unrigged so his damn mouth stays SHUT
to give the impression that he uses telepathy to speak.
but do what you want who knows

I though of it too, but the problem is he opens it sometime like he gets hurt, disable and eating in melee D:

@pikazz
ALRIGHTY THEN
Btw LOVE your stuff on youtube.

Like your imports, hope to see mewtwo hit the vault soon, he looks amazing. :)

why thank you :D
I hope it too x3
it looks perfect in brawlbox :3

i hope the mouth bone is the only one giving you problems and like some said having this bone disable wouldnt be that bad since mewtwo uses telepathy and all  i hope you can rig the arms legs and taill without a problem xD

tried to fix his texture problem by correcting his texture format.

only his feets got correction, what did I missed O_o
maybe I should but those that was error to pallet instead?

to be exact. Which texture did you used for this one? The texture resource texture? or the one that comes with Oshtoby's model?

why did I got deja vu and once again when I wrote this O.o
have you asked this before?

ontopic, I used the one I got from ds22, don't know whichs camonster used but I believe he used from texture resourse

I didn't asked this before.

Ontopic, hmmm thats strange maybe some of them need to be resized? Its .png the textures? If they are from the "texture resource" texture maybe this is not going to work good.

dont believe it's the texture itself, I think it's more material/texture format like CMRP or C18

well you should export it and convert it to .png then try it out. Sometimes that works :)

.png format is more compatible than any others.

it's already .png xD

XD okay well haha I don't have any other ideas for the ingame texture issue for now...

Make sure all non-working textures are formatted so that length and height are a number in this pattern:
8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, and so on (double the last number).

Otherwise the texture won't load. I doubt that's the issue here, as it usually looks different when this error occurs, but it won't hurt to try.

but it's double from the last D:

it's something about it's materials/ texture forat

shame that mewtwo is having so many texture problems :S but how about bones? is he cooperating or you havent tryed yet?

that's bad but I am sure it will fix soon :3

also, the bone rigging is slow but safe!

To me, it looks like you got some UV, Materials, and Normals editing to do.

doing some rigging :]
it gets good, soon every head is complete! even the thing behind his head :3
but I still haven't do the jaw D:
should I do it or not?
it might be those things too :/
but I will ask RTB about that texture, he maybe have conque this texture error too

If you want to.

well you could let the jaw bone to the end since i actually prefer a mouth shutted mewtwo xD since hes telepathic but thats just me.

I want it shut but I want it open cause even if mewtwo NEVER use his mouth to talk, he using it when hurted and eating and stunned D:
it would be more prettier if I rig it too

well since you want it rig it xD some bodywise whats rigged? almost all head for now? any other body part is rigged besides the head? i know you had the right arm but it was in the previus mewtwo model right?

(http://i43.tinypic.com/qn4ols.png)
teaser pic on how much is rigged!

it's head, neck, bust and waist!
everything is perfect <3
now for the arms!

nice i hope you can make some good progress on him this weekend :P and lol those lucario hair thing bones lol i hope they are invisible and without texture so they dont get in the way xD

or better yet... make sure the bones for his hairs has no weights :af2:

I did this what you said :3

thats wat i have to do to some of my bones... make them have no weights x3

(http://i42.tinypic.com/vnhuti.png)
MEWTWO IS "PLAYABLE!"
thanks camonster x3

noice... maybe after ur done wit him... maybe u an help me out with Lightning... and another character i havent posted on my thread? xP

once it is released, can i use it on the mewtwo over luigi psa?

Very ncie progress on Mewtwo! Good luck fixing the rest of the things.

The tail is going to be a nightmare brought to life I know it >:)

Pikazz try putting the taill bone is a striaght line when you rig it or i bet the taill will go bent over most of the time and those feets they look like elefants feets or something lol but hey whats that material before his taill? he looks like he has a bit of lucarios fur  back there xD Good luck with the arms legs and mostly the taill since it will be the hardest.

the tailwill not be a nightmare, I bet it will be pretty good x3

(http://i43.tinypic.com/14v08cx.png)
a sneak peak!

it's texture works now! :D
except on it's foot's texture act like metal texture, always faced to the screen
fully playable! but it gets ingame lag when he or something else get hit O.o
will fix it later :3

:D nice job!

wait! something weird I saw!

it's only get heavy ingame lag in the FIRST match when hit or the opponent hit but in the second it's good O.o

EDIT: and more weirder it gets, somehow, it's good on pirate ship but gets lag if zelda get hits.
ingame lag versus dk and/or rumble falls and ingame lag on pokemon stadium and/or versur Jigglypuff/Ivysaur O_o

Beyond has had that lag issue with all his models so far, so it is fixable. And nice job on mewtwo, looks great!

^this ask beyond how he fixed the lag glitch since is tekkaman lagged the game when hitted or trown of the edje

i already know :3
it's shaders that's problem x3

i wasn't beta tester for newest BB for nothing? x3

heh, my bad.

no need to apoligies my friend ;3

Is it possible to import PS2 characters now? I would like to import some kingdom hearts characters into brawl.

yes, it's possible :3
as long they can be DAE so they can be imported

so pikazz did you do any experiment with the taill yet to see if it doesnt screw up?Since the problem with mewtwo since the begining was the taill xD

nope, I haven't D:
are busy in irl xD

Man that mewtwo looks great even if he still got some bad rigs o.O

wow thanks :D

That Mewtwo looks very smexy, even with the bad rig lol. The texture looks really nice, so that definitely doesn't need an fixing. Though, the lagging is the real problem.  :(

wow dude it looks really Mewexy xD

Can't wait for the release it looks beautiful and epic :D

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2mrd3k1.png)
his tail is hard as HELL D8

also, this is my first time I rigging a model lol

Wouldn't it be better to keep the tail straight and drag the bones to match that?

i didnt realize how hard it is till i tried it.
you are doing really good

I did it, I just animate it so you can look how far I am xD

pretty proud over the tail but I can do it better D:

hope the taills gets alright xD Godd luck pikazz all mewtwo fans are counting on you xD

I will :3

however, I will take a vacation later today until next week so I will not do brawl hacks, machinimas ect D:
and no, I will NOT rush with mewtwo cause it will ALWAYS end up bad, wanna take my time about it D:
and dont PM me about it, I am serious :srs:

and please take care of my thread everyone, tell me some ideas on what I can import and rig like characters, stages and items ect.

That Mewtwo is from Super Smash Bros. Melee?

yes it is :3 exactly that model

Oh, I thought that will never possible.

nothing is impossible you know ;3

some of PSA is impossible.
But about .REL?

Your Mewtwo look like as great!

maybe PSA is kinda limited unless you edit brawl ISO to read something else and it's ram :]

and thanks x3

I edited the poll, what should I work on AFTER mewtwo?

I been thinking for while.
It is possible to make King Sandbag?
(Peach's crown hat on Sandbag)

yes it is possible!

how?
by through hexing or use Brawl Box?

for the moment, by hex :3

BJ96 is doing a thing about brawl box so you can add objects :3
but it's not complete

oh, ok.

bowser from sm64 should be next xD +1 from me.

got a wonderful idea for a "hungry luma" if I will do one <w<

but I dont know how VIS0 works if it rest of the game or only on the animation it's being used D:

will keep the poll up UNTIL i get home next week so be nice to my thread D:
and dont make it inactive :srs:

have a  nice break Pikazz, you deserve it  ;)

Looking forward to that N64 Bowser and Ghostly Galaxy :3

Take care in your vacations dude :) and I vote for Bowser 64 :D

thank you for all responde! :3

I am thinking on a plan I might do! <w<

PAPER MARIO! the version from TTYD
(http://i2.listal.com/image/79629/600full-paper-mario%3A-the-thousand--year-door-cover.jpg)

and I know exactly how he will be, should be and everything!
the problem is I propely need to do the model by myself and set up homemade bones to him too D:
but I bet he will be pretty sweet when he is complete <3

will not spoil so much about this! I have already planned his moveset, some extras and everything :D

also! I will be now off to vacation! cya all next week :3

yes. Yes. YES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs

who he will be over(please not mario so we got 2x marios)

Since Pikazz is on vacations we cant let this topic die so im leaving my BUMP xD

This isn't an image board, if we let this go for a week, Pikazz can always bump it when the vacation is over.

SAGE

=P

Pikazz since you're the only one who's taking requests/ideas at the moment. I can send you the files if you need them.

Kisame From CON 3 or CON 3 Revolution: Preferibly over ike
Tsunade From Con 3 or CON 3 Revolution: Most likely someone with similar build, so captain falcon or Sheik/Zelda (both of them)
Yogau: Anyone with decent psa size
Kakashi: Obvious reasons
Komachi: preferibly someone with lots of articals to edit :D

Hinata from CON 3: Over Zelda AND Sheik why, byakugan/no byakugan psa down B :D

How dare I allow this thread to fade to the second page 

Shameless bump...

but no, seriously hope you're enjoying your break or at least doing what needs to be done 

yeay on official computer:D

home soon! will make a proper plan for papermario!

pikazz is back xD hope you can fix mewtwo and that paper mario is it possible to import a 2d model? also that bowser from 64 is a win also so there are 3 imports i would want from you :P

Good to see you're back :P

Can't wait for Mewtwo. I wonder how you'll do paper mario  :)

Oh, and... slight bump  r)

so I am now official back from my vacation! yeay!
so I looked at the poll.
Bowser is the winner!
and Ghostly Galaxy is second!

ohshi , I notice I wrote "request" in my poll, it was suppose to be "ideas" ^^;
not taking requests, sorry ^^;
I will try to import it as a 2D character, that's the plan xD
but I need to make it completely in scratch!
cause I need to set up his bones cause I planning him to have a lot of VIS0 D:
like sonics face expressions

some spoiler about paper mario:
mario will have "advance guard" when he press B while Guarding AND get hit like in TTYD.
Mario's footstooling will hurt!
and he will be on 2D :]

So time to change the thread title xD and i hope you can finish mewtwo :P

now the title is changed, I hope i can get mewtwo finish ASAP D:

EDIT: seriously, mewtwo's leg is so hard to rig so it looks GOOD :srs:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/35bz88j.png)
a tiny step for mewtwo, a big step for SSBB Hacking!

how does it look? sometimes, "even big artist can get blind for errors in their work"
what I mean, I dont know if this looks good or not, I think it looks good :/

okay, who touched "GET OUT" in my poll >:[

to me it looks good :af:
Keep it up! xD

the back leg looks good  anckle and everything whats left legs and arms??

DAT ASS. DEM LEGS.
Poor feet.

thanks about your support :3

will continue on his feet and next leg too and only when, the arms is left!

great and for a side question dos mewtwo have that shader issue most ppl have with imports where he gets very dark or color changing  in some stages or mewtwo is good on that department?

yeah, it did have but I know how to fix it :3

then there isnt a problem xD also since that model is from Melle does that mean melle textures work perfect on mewtwo model? i mean its just replace them and they should work right??

I just finished rigging the vertices of my model!!! The only thing remaining is the shaders, or something like that... THEN it will work in Brawl! :happy: Well, good luck for Mewtwo, Pikazz!

hey... i remember that you had some texture mapping problems a while ago. how did i manage to fix them?

thanks!

the rigging I doing now works like a charm :happy:
I even see this done before or under weekend :vyse:
didn't had all the texture first, when I changed all texture format to crmd, when I used him as a character, when it worked :3

(http://i41.tinypic.com/f0qgdt.png)
his arms is a maze :rage:

some polygons are like this pic and they are severial objects in there :srs:

to make it more worse, I cant detach it because it gets low polygony ;_;

I assume not, but I figured I would ask this anyway: With the way the bones are in the model you're rigging, do you think this will be able to work as a one-slot over Lucario, still allowing other Lucario models to be used? Just curious.

I am trying to make it one-slot over lucario, working on wifi x3
trying to make so small bonechanges at all, but it will be affect by his original moveset so I am 100% you can have oneslot mewtwo and 95% working on wifi x3

that's my plan

Problem with Wi-Fi is, it either has to be 100% Wi-Fi safe or 0% safe (as it will most likely desync due to hurtboxes).

wow wierd arms why is the palm  detached? i hope you can fix it and the easy part is that lucario has no finger bones xD

believe it will not desync as long the bones are named right and it's bonetree is exactly as original

Carnage: lucario has finger bones O_O
3 on right hand and 1 on the left hand... lol O_o

Also, the rigging of the tail when using Lucario's motion file would look... not good, I suppose (as it will shrink in not the good way).

i wouldnt call that exactly finger bones they are more like advanced hand bones since most characters have like 2 sets of finger bones lucario has only one

I know but that is better than poor rigged tail D:
or should I make one version with no rigged tail for online version?

Would be nice, but that's all up to you.

will only do it if the tail doesn't look good... at all xD

after all rigging is done just test it out and see how it looks

(http://i40.tinypic.com/aa7zh1.png)
yeay! it looks great 8D
NOTE: the arms isn't complete yet

but it was impossible to make it fit to lucarios bones without touching the bonetree :srs:
so it needs to be ported to look good!
also, discover some bugs!
it's a hole in his tail and his eyes, nose and inside mouth are attach to jawbone O_o

suchs a newbie mistake ;_;

this is how unported mewtwo looks like

luckly I dont rush this and make it good x3

what do you mean by ported? and the first pictures those leggs look really epic  if the animation looks like that thats an awnsome work on the legs bw

the animations need to be ported D:

Ported? you mean ... re-edit/re-make them to make them compatible with the model? x0 xD

kinda but that's pretty easy.
BJ96 add a function that we calling "animation porter" that will make animation fits to the model without doing it manually. perfect for mewtwo and lucario but less perfect to jigglypuff and bowser lol xD

so this mewtwo wont be one slot right? since i bet the animations look wierd on lucario??

lol and what is BJ96? x$ sounds good, no problem so.

also his tail is animated? I mean it is "editable" moves with the stage's wind?

he can but I can say it might not look that epic like with the ported animations

AGFanProduction: I dont know cause the bones is exactly the same as lucarios.
if the lucarios tailbones is affect by the wind, mewtwos tail will also be affected

I really like how everyone is faster than me on rigging :srs:

however, tested mewtwo ingame, his leg works, even ported and original animation :3
but I really need to fix his hole on his tail O_o

how does mewtwo has a hole in his taill? lol something rigged on another place?

I think I moved a bone by a mistake while a part was rigged but not his tail :/

but I will fix that x3

GET HYPE~
(http://i40.tinypic.com/aqf4x.png)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/mltwcp.png)

however, need still fix the tail's hole and rig better at the shoulders D:
and fix the shaders, after that it's the metal texture and yellow eyes that's missing x3

Try fixing his feet, they're inside the ground x3

I will when the times come :3

Mewtwo definitely looks nice. Any assumption on when it will be done?

soon! pretty soon! :D

Mewtwo looks great so far! Are you going to include the recolors from Melee?

I believe AFG wanted to do it if I not mistaking me

We could, but they weren't really all that special. I think in the time since the old Mewtwo vertex, we've made more than enough cool recolors. I MYSELF have contributed towards that effort.

Examples: (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/greenj.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/ShadowMewtwoCSP.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/ElecBlueMewtwoCSP.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/deoxysmewtwo.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/RocketEmblemMewtwoCSP.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/AquaEmblemMewtoCSP.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/MagmaEmblemMewtwo.png)(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y194/darkplasma22/Brawl%20CSPs/GalacticMewtwoCSP.png)[/color]

Great so mewtwo is close cant wait xD  it will be epic will you release it with the fitmotion from the animation porter included?

OMG! I love it! Keep it up xDDD
there is too much epicness in those 2 pictures!!



You are right, I want and I'm going to make them. I'm really anxious.
New Melee PSA with original Model with Melee textures = Epic Win.

xDD

*Gets Hyped xD*

There is a problem with the model that I've noticed since I've ripped it. On the left side of Mewtwo's body, the chest texture is flipped, leading to that black spot showing up on the front of his chest. That black spot is supposed to be on his back, where the neck-tube-thing is. I noticed this when I ripped the model.

Also, the eyes are just the TINIEST BIT too small, leading to people being able to see through his head on the edges of his eyes. This can be solved by making all of his model's materials have two sides to them (so that when one sees through, all they see is the other side of Mewtwo's head, instead of, say, the background to the stage), if you've not done so already. If you have done so, than you've already fixed it.

Third problem: What's with the two little purple blocks on his his feet? That's strange.

FANTASTIC job on the rigging, though. Absolutely fantastic. I cannot wait for this to come out. I am replacing Lucario forever with this.

thanks for telling me x3

didn't know the black dot was to the thingy O.o though it was texture mistake.
also, I notice the eyes was small when I started to rigging it, I can try to resize it in 3DS but it can and up ugly D:

dont know that too :/ texture mistake?

and thanks x3

Well, technically, it IS a texture mistake, but it's a mistake of how the texture lays on the model.

And no problem, any time. I want this to look as awesome as possible, so I want to give out any and all helpful criticism I can.

helpful criticism is helpful! I support that.
but dont know how to fix his texture mistake :/ I believe I need to make his texture to be "mirror" instead for repeat

this mewtwo is lagfree almost glitchfree! I succeeded to play though classic without any lags or anything! :D
but it's shadings changes it colors alot D:

I love how people votes on "GET OUT!"

so rigging is done just some shader issues left? epic xD i hope you can fix the shaders.

ALMOST! just dat tailhole and some work on the shoulders :3

gah! I wanna do a team rockets meowth :[

one little side project is I make "Team rocket's Meowth!" over someone when I have time over :3

Mewtwo looks amazing! cant wait to have him on my sd card.

RIGGING = 99%

(http://i42.tinypic.com/2nt30i.png)
AFG wanted I would take a pic of his wait

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2a91sg9.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2mo5xck.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/nzexyw.png)

the eyes is fixed and the hole on his tail and also some rigging problems.
however, need to fix his thing on his back to head better.
want also to add Yellow eyes and Metal material, fix his shaders and fix his texture before release

:D hypity hype hype!

OMG thats my Wait animation? ohh well I think needs fix on TailJds... and why he looks some kind of blue in the pose? xD and when he is charging the shadow ball the foot is underground, why?

looks pretty good now xD

The blueish colour is what happens to model imports currently. They want to be rainbows and change colours a lot. I don't know if it it fixable yet.

it is fixable beyond fixed this on zero he only gets a bit darker but doesnt change colors like it did those are shader problems and pikazz epic mewtwo  i hope  you fix the thing on the back of his head  so he looks perfect  i want mewtwo :P

any tutorial about it? :3

pikazz, you knwo how you took navi an dput it on olimar, right? well, after mewtwo, or sometime later, could you take navi fromk the model resource and put it over lucas? or someone? so that way there can be a playbal enavi. just an idea

not that i know about ask him by pm or something maybe he will help you

THE RIGGING IS DONE!

or should I do the JawN? xD
but mewtwos mouth is weird D:

do what you want :3

so you fixed the thing on the back of his head? so shaders and  jawN left?and if jawn is dificult then let it be since even in the movie mewtwo doesnt open is mouth that mutch lol

Jawn N is worthless. Mewtwo is fine without.

Mewtwo never opens his mouth, I think. So there's no point in doing the jaw bone.

he has his mouth open while stunned, eating and get badly hurt

Mewtwo opens his Mouth in Melee when he gets hit REALLY hard, when he does Down-B attack, some smashes and some animations.

I think it would be nice but ... I don't know, do whatever you want with it x3

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2m4t4js.jpg)

this^

but I dont know if I should do it or not :/
even so, his mouth is hard to do since half of his lips are connected to each other (upper and lower lips) and that's hard to weight correctly D:

In my case about the Melee PSA there will be no problem if it has or doesn't has the Jaw, cuz is always disabled because it messes with some animations but I don't know if the other guys want it enabled and functional with Mewtwo.

for me its okay if it doesn't has it:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/6qwr28.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/15cf59i.jpg)
just my opinion x3

you decide

im fine if he keeps his mouth shuted xD  since if you go try and fix the jaw bone and mess everything in his face just leave it alone but if you think you can certanly make it work do it if not dont

will keep the mouth shut.

that means the rigging is 100% COMPLETE! :D

things do to before release:
1. texture, material and shading fix.
2. metal and yelloweyes!
3. port every animation on a original motionect file for the epic mewtwo

coudl i add the metal liek i did for young link by jokekid? or are you just gunna cuz it is one thing?

hope you find out how to fix shader and everything and metaltexture is always a good thing xD

^ I'm Anxious! xD

this Mewtwo is going to be perfect! xD

just for some teasing
(http://i40.tinypic.com/z02km.png)

What is he doing there? his eyes are so epic along with the pose x0

his lose animation :3
he is clapping his hands lol

He is clapping to himself cuz he looks really epic even in his lose animation xD lol

the thing on the back of his head looks epic xD so we are getting a weekend release for sure right? xD

Release this week ? would be awesome :D

it's being released today JK. trololololo. i bet you believed me XD trollface.png

doubt that since it still needs shader fixes and everything right? doesnt that take time?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyzyOnOh9A8&feature=related

it seems everytime I trying to save something I editing in material, it mess up my model O.o D:

XD :3 lolz

weird. are you trying to add the metal effect?

that, yellow eyes and some other things that causing texture error on mewtwo D:

oh, ok.

Don't give up. Just add the Metal materials first and worry about the Yellow eyes later.

Today is 11/11/11 a day designed to be EPIC for every 100 years xD!

We trust in you pikazz :)
Good luck in these Mewtwo's final steps xD x)

EPIC TIME
(http://i42.tinypic.com/jglgcx.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/abjhug.png)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/10csx2s.png)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/23ruvl.png)
does anyone see what I have done? :3

yes you added the yellow eyes and it looks great but its just me or did the shader got even brighter? i mean in the first picture legs and  taill are completely white or its just the photo quality?? but that rigging is perfect i love it and the yellow eyes also :P

added final smash eyes and mewtwo's yellow eye when he gets hurt :3

believe it's the shaders I got them I imported it D:
never touch it D:

those look great so metal texture and shader fix missing right? and we get a release i bet everyone is waiting for mewtwo :P

o.o Amazing work so far pikazz. From what I'm reading and seeing, it seems like the only things that have to be done is the metal effect and fixing the shaders. But I could be wrong.

Isn't it obvious? :P

you where right about the metal effect and shaders :3
and also some material fix like his "bust" texture is supposed to be mirrored but it's repeated but I can't change it D:

Oh. ._.
But it looks like in the pictures that his chest texture is mirrored. :/ But there is no way you know how to fix it?

it may look like that but he has a black dot in the center on left side.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/214qukn.png)
the black dot is suppose to be on his back under that back to head thingy D:
tried to make the texture mirrored but it didn't to anything O.o

and that purple dot on his foot, I dont know what that is suppose do to D:
pretty sure I will take away that purple dot on his texture xD

i think the texture on the  right side is backwards lol did  you try switching the texture around? it looks the part in the front belongs to the back i think its an easy flipp right?

You can try UV Tool, double the size of the U coordinate, and using a mirrored texture... O.o

Or just change things in 3dmax, sure it's easier xD

that might be it to us the UV tool cause I tried to make it mirrored instead for repeat but it didn't work ;_;

dont wanna use the 3ds again to export it lol D: XD

and weirder it gets.

in 3ds, it's perfect UV on the body!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/o0xb8j.png)

but still, it goes to repeat instead for mirror D:

Cool

hope you can figure it out

since mewtwo has a naughty texture/UV I take a little little pause to test a thing about sm64 models

(http://i43.tinypic.com/1q3a7d.png)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/28741tt.png)
pink bob-omb over jigglypuff, the easiest rig ever! all is singlebinded xD
(it was a test over jigglypuff, may do it over kirby instead)

but I need to fix his body always face to the camera and change the UV from inside to outside like it's hatthing and his eyes x3

this was a quick pause, I will do mewtwo!

lol lookes like bob omb  gets invisible? lol and yes over kirby would be nice since mario dk made gomba bob omb would be a cool thing to continue mario enemies/allies xD

This is epic!! xD

so dude this means that I don't have to edit the PSA to make Mewtwo get yellow eye when It gets hit? xDD

mewtwo is little paused cause that stupid UV thingy D:
however I will ask around why this conquer mewtwo cause it's perfect in 3ds but not in BB and SSBB D:
I wanna give it out when it's 100% PERFECT :C

so under the little pause, I played a little with Bob-omb buddy to learn more things.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2pze4uc.png)
it's almost perfect and almost complete!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/denw2s.png)
the thing is, he has that black around his eyes but the material saying it's allowing invisibleness D:
and tried to make his body always facing the camera, no matter the camera angle like food is.
but instead I got this:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/epq98j.png)
Pretty awesome and cool but not what I am looking for D:

nope, you dont have do to PSA. but you can use VIS0 in motionect to be more exactly when it would be used or not :3

ohh well I need to learn more about the VIS0 stuff cuz last time I *edited* VIS0 caused a Freeze on Mewtwo since that I don't touch those files :S

and don't worry about Mewtwo take your time for him :3

it's pretty easy about VIS0 once you have learned, trust me x3

Okay I trust xD but where can I get a tutorial or something of it? x3

VIS0 is pretty much used on stages... they allow u to edit which bone (or material i think) u want it to show in the game

but I think it still can be used to edit Character's eyes isn't it?

nope.. i have seen no character files with VIS0 in it... its all done by what object the bone is attached to

Falco and Zelda.

They are both used to control which facial polygons are shown.

Zard and Jiggz both use .vis0 to switch between eyelid textures.

not jigglypuff D: he using PAT0

but sonic using vis0 to all his faces and eyes

so any luck fixing mewtwo? or bob omb eyes?

nope, I asked BJ96 if he knows but haven't got any answer yet
Camonster will ask one he knows about it cause he is pro at 3DS

I really hope I can release him ASAP

O right.
Silly me for mixing those up.
But yeah, .vis0 is commonly used by characters (like Ike, Lucario and Zelda).

Really hope you'll figure out the UV flip problem as I'm just dying of wait to try Mewtwo out ingame.

Wait, hold on. That little pink bob-omb thingy is actually a playable character?

yesh, it is :3

It's easy to fix that.

for body ALWAYS face the camera no matter what angle?

well TEACH ME :D

Umm...

So mewtwo is fine in 3dmax only...

Send me the 3ds file and I'll probably be able to return it to you ready to be imported and released

sure, you are my last hope about it.

do not steal ;_; *afraid*

OR should I try to change the UV on his chest to double and have and have the texture double size?
how can I do that D:

no need to worry, mewtwo isnt like that... unless he has a really evil dark side that he doesnt want to show :oshi:

lol, that's funny. Mewtwo wants to help finish Mewtwo.

I'm a good person, don't worry. Lots of things have been in my hands and I've never stolen anything o.o

To do what you say, you would need UV Tool (brawlvault), finding the offset for the UV points for the conflictive part, make 'factor1' to be 0.5, and click apply.

After that, you should get your texture, and add a mirrored version of it to its right.

If doesn't work, just send me that, and I'll try to figure out the solution, which sure exists and should not be difficult to make.

it did not work, it freeze up brawlbox or make everything bad DX

Using UV Tool froze brawlbox? O.o

Oh, wait, maybe it's not using the standard format for UVs...

Send me the max file then >_<

You're not allowed to be stopped from releasing it because of something like a texture! xD

sure, you are my last hope D:
do not steal >:C

they already told you dude, Mewtwo doesn't steals :)
he is a good guy, trust me ;3

Yes Pikazz thrust Mewtwo2000 he wont do that sort of thing lol and i hope he can figure it out why the texture doesnt mirror

I really hope it can be fixed D:

cause when i's fixed, only metal and shadings is left!
does anyone how to fix the shadings yet? D:

HYPE
(http://i41.tinypic.com/efrqrp.png)
I succeeded to make it look good :3

however, need to fix the textures, there is one pixel on both his chest and belly that's looks awful D:

great i think the texture doesnt cover the true middle of mewtwo lol thats why there is a space

Off-topic, but it looks like Mewtwo is giving me an evil grin. Sweet ;D

I can see a middle line over there O,o?
Good work anyways xD I like to see that Mewtwo is almost finished xD oh Yeah! xDD

and thats an easy fix :P cant wait to have mewtwo on my sd card. :af:

I have done some work on mewtwo! :3
first, I made him darken instead for so bright!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/106wu87.png)
I forgot do to it on his left chest lol

add metal texture
(http://i41.tinypic.com/16gzmzl.png)
it's works but not perfect like everyone elses D:

it even changes color
(http://i44.tinypic.com/6dr6us.png)

and a epic pic!:
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2yydopv.png)

HELL YEAH

texture is fixed and all but  i hope you can fix shaders because using a dark purple Mewtwo is kinda wierd lol and i bet he turns red yellow depending on the stage lol

you had right there! he does D:

will try do some fixes and trickes on shading tomorrow, who knows, I might release it already tomorrow or tuesday :3

and someday, I will do this lille fella
(http://i39.tinypic.com/ao9cub.png)
one of my favorite bosses from TP :]

Stallord? :O

What ca you possibly do with him? XD

maybe as a stage lol
I hope it possible to make custom stage attack in stages, I would do a stage with him while he is attacking xD

or a character lol.

will test to disable shadinging and see what's happen

CLOSE TO PERFECTION
warning, pics ahead
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2zs5v7o.png)
with a little friend! :3

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2iaec2b.png)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/24xjku9.png)
I nulled his normal :3
however this mean he doesn't have any shading at all, can try to reset normal to get that working shading.

more pics about scraggy~
(http://i43.tinypic.com/16jo3f8.png)
he is not rigged, he has original bones and is for now over pikachu and I love PAT0 hacking :]

thank you soonek x3

 :>.>: Mewtwo? Kicking?

Apparently, more likely than I thought.

 :happy:

Nulled normals? Best idea ever  ;D

Sure fixing the lighting would be ideal, but I'm so impatient when I see progress like this  r)

Ignore me!  >D

Scraggy!? My favorite 5th gen pokemon along with his evo Scrafty!! Too awesome :D

Any plans on putting them over a character to make 'um playable? 'Cause right now I'm seeing a pikazz Machinima in the near future, and I can't wait to see it  ;D

how did you know? O_O

So i see Mewtwo looks good now shading wise cant wait for the release whats left to fix?? and i love scrafty evolution Dont know the name but why over pikachu? he doesnt run in All four maybe  ganon would work for darkness effects :P

No problem! I can work on recolors for Scraggy if you don't mind...

dont know if I will do the shading after the release :/
I am stuck in a dilemma
cause it's the normal that's wrong and need to fix his metal texture D:

about scraggy, I put him over pikachu for easyness lol and he has his original bones, no rigged brawl bones or anything. I think Scrafty works better on luigi to be honest lol

Soneek: if I rig him over someone if I can/want so, ofcouse :3
just dont know how to deal with his pants D:

- Mewtwo's feet are still underground
- Nulled normals should be the last option, it will sure be better if normals are fixed
- BJ96 says next brawlbox will be able to make metal to work fine

I would personally concentrate in fixing the feet, and if you want to release it with nulled normals, do it, but you should try to fix them first, and release both fixed and nulled normals.

I know it's in the ground but dont know how to lift him up without touching the motionect file or the bonetree or something that's destroys the rig D:

okay, will try to fix the normal. I really hope it works.

when will the next brawlbox be out?

I could just use the textures from the original file and have them ready, just to get it out of the way.

As for Mewtwo, would you be able to translate the TopN bone up a little bit in Brawlbox to fix the feet in ground issue? I don't think Lucario's animations will affect the value.

I would never change the TopN bone to try to fix that, it would probably lose wifi compatibility.

What I would do about feet would be just vertexing them up just a little. Just to make them be over Z=0 plane in 3dmax. If you already have the 3ds file in which you rigged him, you should be able to do it without losing the rig.

pikazz if you want to wait for the next brawlbox you should release that mewtwo as beta anyway xD

Okay then he look beautiful right there. *Gets Hype*..... xDDDDD!

good news and bad news

bad news:
mewtwo is "kinda" on hold because on 2 things.

1. I will travel to my dad one week or 2 so I can't test it on my wii D:
2. I will wait until the BB with metal material will come :3

good news:
but it doesn't mean I will quit doing him, will try to fix him on one side and the other xD
but I can't test it in game however.

this also give me opponinty to rig sm64 bowser if I dont have job to do :D
and maybe even someone else like scraggy or scrafty!
and my birthday is this sunday :]

regarding metal texture there are alot of ppl who can do it in like 2 mins just ask caterpie(SonicBrawler) and i hope SM64 bowser collaborates with you :P

I am talking about the ultra delicious metal texture that brawl character has!

to do fix on mewtwo:
* fix his feet is not in ground
* fix normals
* add the perfect delicious metal texture on mewtwo

i really dont pay much attention to metal textures i can live without them xD so i really dont know the diference from the fake ones to the brawl ones :P but i guess you only want to release Mewtwo when hes 100% perfect i can understand that.

I want it perfect before I release it :srs:

pikaz, if u want, i can add metal (did i ask this already?) or u could follow my tutorial on my youtube page.

if you send me the video, I can check :3

i just posted it as a reply to u on the brawlbox thread :3

That Mewtwo model looks amazing. I'm glad you're taking the time to perfect it, because it should be perfect.

Now add that delicious metal texture, please. XD

I did exactly that you did, but I got that nasty metal texture I showed up earlier
I will make it perfect!

I dont know what I should do about scraggy <3 ;_;
scraggy is my baby!
wanna keep it as it are but it's easier to rig it instead for making every animation but his pants will propely be disable but I will use scraggy most for machinima purpose.
meep

hmm. weird. send ur edited one to me so i can take a look at it

can i have dibs on recoloring this bad boy? :3

unless you wanna do it :D

I will do this. xP

love my thread is the third most viewed :]

need to update my OP so it looks good D:

funny, 4 want to recolour this baby! O.o

Why recolor it? It's using the official Melee textures. If you want, I can rip the textures from Melee for the other colors. No need for artificial recoloring.

true, but they asked lol

I have the Mewtwo ripped textures dude xD no need to worry for that.
I'm not going to make artificial recolors for this one, trust me. ;)

Excellent. I should stop doubting you. All your work so far on this project is looking nice.

Yezz please gimme moar! (Ok,I've gone a bit crazy here!)

That mewtwo model looks like the best I'e ever seen!

it will be the best, dont worry :]

wanna give some more pics lol

also, a great news!
thanks mewtwo for telling me how to edit normals!
this will not be nulled! this mewtwo will have awesome shadings :]

I have desided, I will rig completely his legs from scratch cause I changed the bones there to fit the model = foots underground.
I really hope this will look good cause the legs isn't the same place when the rest of his body is D:

EDIT: dont know how I should do :/
only the bone legs are OUTSIDE the model while the rest is perfect D:
tried to move forward the modelbones to see if this will work

EDIT2: that looks pretty bad D: anatomy is extremly bad this way

.... :'( so you killed Mewtwo?..

who is not dumb to not have a back-up :]

have atleast 10 back-ups lol!

lol that happened to me one time, I finished some Mewtwo's animations and they looked so epic in Brawlbox that I got so hyped that I replaced the old Motion and PSA from my SD card with the new one (without save a backup) and when I tried it out in-game it froze because I exceed the filesize limit and I *tried* to edit the VIS0 files x33
and I had to delete some useless animations from the Motion to make it work again and replace new animations with old ones and fix them ... :33
lol

now I always save like 3 or 2 Motion and PSA backup files x/

I DID IT!
(http://i43.tinypic.com/102s1mu.png)
his feets it not underground :]

but there is something about his knees that bugs me, I need to fix it D:
when that is fixed, the "feet on the ground" is done x3

:DD

that's awesome! good luck pikazz with the remaining fixes on Mewtwo xD

will you make this work with your Mewtwo PSA?

Of course I will, The New PSA is really Promising and with this Model it causes the sensation of:
OMG! I see a Real Mewtwo approaching this time!

Take what it takes I'll make this model fully compatible with this: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=36777.0

xD

pikazz i dont see anything wrong with the knees maybe thats because of lucarios stance no?

I talkting about this knee D:
(http://i40.tinypic.com/a8404.png)
is this good or bad?

I'd say you should try to fix it if you can.

But there is a question to ask, how much of this is Mewtwo's fault, and how much is Lucario's animation's fault?

Still, if possible, see if you can indeed fix this.

it's both. I need to rotate lucarios legs so it fits mewtwo, I didn't move them but I rotated them so the feet could be on the ground.
also, the animation of lucario is kinda it's fault cause this is his wait 1, ported or unported, doesn't really matter for his legs now.
the beginning of it is great but in the middle when the knee is most rotated, this happens

I believe I found why his tailis so bright than the rest of his body!
only his tail using colour and it's set on MAX! D:
I wanna see what's happen if I nulling/deleting/neutralizied his tailcolor

Seems to me like most of the problems this Mewtwo has are Lucario's animation's fault. Mewtwo's body just wasn't supposed to move like that.

Definitely looking forward to it, once you release it, Lucario can say goodbye.

Though I still wish someone would make a custom rig to better support his model and then make animations from scratch without being restricted by Lucario's bones .. Oh well, a man can dream xD

Have you tried to use Material Tool to normalize that color for the tail? The color node is usually at 255,255,255 (white), while material tool leaves it in 128,128,128 (grey). You can also edit this manually by hexing the model.

it was lucario's animations fault, fixed it better now, it's less inside his leg on the pics I showed before
I haven't tried that O.o
but I changed the color IN the material to "150", 128 was little to dark.
it was 2 colums with "R255, G255, B255, A255" so I changed the red, green and blue one on both, but not alpha.
I believe the tails color in "Color" (not material) wasn't changed too = too bright D:

Do not change anything in material. It's the color node what makes it look brighter, just edit that one. It can't be done in brawlbox, but the offset can be seen in it, so it's easy to find in a hex editor. Or, again, if you use the 'fix DAE' option in my Material Tool, the color nodes will be automatically set to 128.

but it's the tail that only using the color D8
and it's much brighter than rest of the model while the model is pretty bright itself O.o
(http://i44.tinypic.com/9bkn5u.png)

Yeah, I know, but if you look where it says 'colors', there should be a button with a '...', and when pressing it you will probably see that those values are 255. You should go to the 161216 offset and look for a FFFFFF, and change it to 808080.

Your other option, which would be fine because of some possible problems, is giving a color node to each object. I don't know the proper way to do it, but the one I know is attaching the objects without color to an object with color, and then detaching, all of this in 3dmax. You would need to copy the skin each time, but it should be possible to do.

This way, you may solve some of the problems my Ganondorf has. Basically, wrong lightness in some stages (red Ganondorf in Zebes because of the acid). A color node for each object may stabilize it. I guess it is this way, but I'm not 100% sure because I've not tried to fix my Ganondorf yet. But, what I know, is that my Link has colors for each object, and the lighting issue in Zebes doesn't exist. And, another thing I know is that some model Eternal Yoshi was trying to use for a stage got its lighting issues fixed by doing this. You'll find the info in the model help section for further information.

otherwise i can make the objects using the same color in hex :3

You mean increasing the objects list? Well, that one would be an option too xD

I mean that lol xD
I really hope I can fix the normals too

oooh, I wanna test ingame but I can't do it now until next week D:

I offer myself as a betatester. I would give you screenshots so you evaluate how it looks O.o

I don't steal xD

inb4walloftextofbetatester D:
I would be thankful but I dont like sending things over and over D:

but you could take a pic of it <w<

okay, we know how to fix error that fail color.
only did on his legs, feets and tail.
lookie~
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2egd8hl.jpg)
(http://i43.tinypic.com/qrke87.jpg)

but we still can't fix his shading on his tail :srs:
(http://i39.tinypic.com/22n920.jpg)

thanks M22K for ingame pics

@pictures
whatup
translucent dark link that is not on the vault
I assume you used a similar Technique to the one I used for chaos zero?
BACK ON TOPIC
mewtwo is looking GREAT
* except for the broken tail in pic 1*
you can EASLY fix this by porting vanilla shaders AND matirals onto him
normals have much lower priority than those 2 tweaked correctly

as I understand, normals is how they are shaded O.o correct me if I am wrong.

vanilla shaders and Materials? vanilla? O.o

Hey what about the Scraggy you showed in Soneek's post?

now I understand what vanilla was and no! I don't wanna null the shaders, I wanna make it perfect :srs:
scraggy isn't rigged, just directly imported from pokepark2 xD

There is no such thing as the perfect hack. They may look perfect, but they have their flaws.

As perfect as we can make them lol.

i know who want mewtwo to be as perfect as it can but nulled shaders is an easy thing that looks preety good most ppl dont care about  shaders since they dont mess up the character  becuase since he still dont know much about them there might not be a way to fix mewtwo without the null shaders option for now.

Oh, we'll find the way, and both nulled and not-nulled mewtwos will be done.

First step is done, and those glitchy colors are over for some parts of the body, while they were affecting the whole body before.

as soneek said
^this^

you didn't see the latest pics? we know how to fix the pretty much how to fi the miscolor.
but we just want to make the shaders on the tail acceptable

like M22K said

Still, there is the broken tail shown in the first picture.
Would be a shame if it were left unfixed.

Other then that, Mewtwo looks great so far.
Keep up the good work.

I think that is a fault of the Animation not from the model... needs to be ported, I believe.

I had to move his tailbones so it fits the tail and that animation wasn't ported.
I can try to rotate the bones so I get the maximun as possible, that will fix probely fix his tail without porting

Please do, as I myself don't want to mess with the Lucario moveset I have on my SD only for Mewtwo's tail to work.

I will do what later or rather sad, tomorrow, even rerig his arms better D:
so no port need to be used

however I updated the poll, choose wisely

Excellent! xD

and I vote for Bowser. Also you should do Mario Kart 64 Bowser too! (if possible) xD

I can say right now I can't do Mario Kart 64 cause it's sprites, not model D:

I vote for Scraggy! It's just so perfect and cutie!

If you still want to make more Bowsers though, you could use the Mario Party 2 models with the different costumes.

If you want to do Bowser, use the Super Mario Galaxy version

Mewtwo2000 reporting info about Mewtwo.

Let's see... Look at this picture

(http://i.imgur.com/hj82N.jpg)

You see the problem with the nose and the hands? This happens because they're separated objects, and there's no smoothness between them. To solve this, you would need to attach the nose model to the head model, and weld the vertices that are in the same point in the space.

In order to do this, you would need that both head and nose had the same texture, and that's not this way. You would need to make a bigger texture with both textures, and map them again. That's what I did with Link.

So, this would be another problem for you to solve ^^U

Anyway, talking about good things, I don't guess you run into problems fixing the colors:

(http://i.imgur.com/15TTN.jpg)

I mean, if I've been able to fix the head to the model you gave me yesterday, I'm sure you're able to fix all of them.

What I still not understand is the tail... I wonder if it has something to do with the rig itself... Cause the normals seem to be okay in brawlbox... O.o

 ;D Mewtwo is going to be... a breath of fresh air  :D

Seriously, I can wait forever for you to make this as amazing as you're planning it to be.  ;)

POLLLL!! Scraggy ಠ_ಠ all day every day. I mean, I love Bowser and everything, I even voted for him in that last poll you made a while back, but Scraggy is just so... ◕ ヮ ◕

Brawlbox is deceptive NEVER listen to it as when it comes to things like matirals shaders and normals
it NEVER tells the truth NEVER it always LIES.
Take it from a man who has been messing around for hours a day STRAIGHT with this BB stuff.

That Mewtwo is perfect! When will the first release be? Will this model be compatile with the official Project Mewtwo PSA?

What character would Scraggy be?

seriously, who votes get out? :srs:

nooo, UV mapping D:
and how will I do with his hands? the same thing?
or something easier? made it smoother? :3

also, we know how to fix the miscolor on some stages, will do it after I have rerig the tail and his arms :3
but why are the shadings on his tail weird? DX

EDIT: funny thing is about his left chest, I didn't do that fix but still it works in game O.o
that object is a clone lol O_o

guess mewtwo  left chest doesnt like colors :P but thats wierd since its mirror right?

it's a own object with a flipped texture, works fine lol xD

Then probably clones are enough to fix, it makes it even easier and faster xD

With the hands, same thing. Smoothness is cut because between the 2 surfaces, there's not 1 line of vertices, but 2. I mean, each vertex in the joint isn't just 1, but 2 vertices in the same place. While chest wouldn't need to be together with the arms, the different parts in the hands or head would need to be fused. Same to the tail with the rest of the body.

The UV XForm modifier will help alot, you can double the size of a texture, add the new one to the side, and just modify the UVs by halving the size, and moving the offset accordingly.

About UVs, if you use that modifier and resize the U and V sizes to, for example, 0.998, and you apply an offset of 0.001, you will probably get rid of those separations between symmetric parts. Apply the same to each part with that problem, and see if it's fixed. If the number isn't okay, just try another, being the offset (1-number)/2.

Cheer up, Mewtwo's gonna be really cool :P

EDIT: Oh, another idea. If you flip the U coordinate with that modifier again for the cloned shoulder, you may get the inverted thing. I mean, you could be using the original unflipped texture again. And you could even fuse both shoulders into 1 again  :kdance:

Also, another recommendation. Change the names of the textures/materials/objects wisely so it's more easy to find what is what.

so I need to fuse the tail and his hips together too?
maybe that will fix the shadings :D

but do you mind testing mewtwo one more time? can you test mewtwos final smash eyes and hurteyes on a stage that cause miscolor like luigis mansion? if they work, cloning can easy fix that :D

so mewtwo body will be rebuilt? hands taill and etc i hope that can fix the shading problem godd luck with that

3 hours are left to get home. I'll test it then. Just send me the file so I can test it as soon I'm there.

I am talking about that file you already had cause those eyes are clones too.
if they works fine in stage like luigis mansion, clones will do the job :3
about your idea if flipping: nah, I dont think so cause it was perfect in 3ds but in BB it was repeated D:

Carnage: only on those I moved the bones so you dont have an ported animation to it xD
hate that mewtwo's tail is twice as long as lucarios tail D:

? Maybe you forgot to 'collapse to'

I'll look into mewtwo's final smash and hurt eyes when I get home then.

mewtwo's tail gets fixed!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2621ts7.png)
not complete, need to make better under the tail and his arm. after it, no ports will be needed xD

sorry but I am a noob in 3ds so I dont know what you meant D:

Some modifiers can be permanently applied to the model by rightclicking and choosing this option. This way, if a texture change isn't seen in brawlbox because it's not really in the model, using this makes it work for brawlbox once exported. Be careful to not to lose your skin modifier while doing this, cut it before, or order them in an appropiate way...

I'm realizing I'm knowing many things about 3ds and modifiers, and I started using them the day brawlbox started to import models... I learn quickly xD

so the taill works perfect without changing lucarios animations? epic xD

carnage: yesh :3
but it's sad about the tip of his tail on the model and not the bone, no hit/hurtboxes there D:
I have learn rigs quickly ho to make it good ect.
but the rest of 3ds, I am such a noob D:
dont know how to apply a texture on a model in 3ds ;_;
it's sad it isn't mdl0 cause there I am pretty pro in!

thats not a problem xD we can use trown bone to make the taill Fells it has a colision buble xD like in Mewtwo 1.01 or another tailled character with not taill bones like my mew psa and others xD

Posting here cuz I love dat Mewtwo.
Just drag the texture file from Windows Explorer onto your model in 3DS Max.

Both damage and fsmash eyes are fixed against weird color schemes

(http://i.imgur.com/hka2H.jpg)

So, it seems the solution for this is really simple after all O.o

That's... an awesome shade of orange O_o

So when shades are fixed...this will be released?

Actually... It is.

A recolor should be made after the release, to use that shade of orange, with like... A red tail.

...

Anyway, this model looks like it has a very nice rig. When this is released, I'm replacing the vertex in a heart beat.

I am still of the opinion that you should release two versions of the model. One where the model is rigged properly, and another where it is rigged to match Lucario. One for people who want a proper one slot, and another for people who want a proper looking PSA.

that is a really good Idea, I totally support it.

I support it too

and pikazz mewtwo2k last page showed the eyes werent affected also does that mean you can solve shader issues that way?

I heard that using Jigglypuff's shaders sometimes fixes things, but I'm not too sure.

I'd just go for the model you were using till now.It looked right but idk what game is it from...
I love mewtwo but the actual Mewtwo from PM has some errors in his model.I think this Mewtwo will be definitely prefect, true Mewtwo.

This is Mewtwo from Melee.

Really? That model's better than the other version by PM,the model is much better

Its obvious, the current model is a vertex this is a model import xD

worked on mewtwo!
however, I trying as [cencor] to make the tail look nice but ALWAYS on some animations, it looks just retarded like a broken tail D:
his wait one looks delicious but wait 2-3 in the middle looks broken D:

that's great!
but that leave one thing left!
I wanna see if it's the Polygon or The material. if it's material, it seems fine to reinsert them.
If polygon, you need to clone or do the M22k.
Could you try to swap material on the polygons?
can you try to swap Right/left normal eye polygon to yellow/Hurt eye's material and vice versa? (Right/left Yellow/Hurt eye polygon to Normal eye's material)
and could you take a pic of it? I wanna see if it's the material or Polygon that causing this.
if the yellow/hurt eye with Normal Eye polygon is wrong with the shaders as the other eye, it's materials fault.
if the YellowHurt eye with Normal Eye Polygon is perfect, it's the polygon!

this! will do this!

and yes, the shaders "color" will be fixed. I just wanna see if it's the material or polygons fault :3
I wanna figure out HOW to control the shaders, where the shaders suppose to be on his tail!

and I never excepted this much post then I was away :srs:
that's good :happy:

a little preview from the poll~
(http://i44.tinypic.com/feqi5l.png)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/357empd.png)

he is easy to do BUT he is hard to do at the same time :/
he is almost finished too! but I dont like his arms to much :srs:
his arms were not suppose to move much in SM64, that's why

arms look good in that animation xD and mewtwo finished or just metal left?

Looks great :D

not quite as good I want them to look like D:

his right arm (<-) is pretty hard to make it look good :/
but I believe I did.

mewtwo is not finished, I waiting for M22k to test that I told him so I know what's the problem D:
on rig, it's only his arms left to the "wifi - unported" version

I like how bowser is looking right now, looks so ... old... lol nice work there pikazz xD
I fully support that hack bowser same as M2 xD X)

Please make Mewtwo before Bowser

that's the plan, I want it look as sm64 as possible but still have that bowser moment!
best is, it's oneslot :D no porting animation!

ofcouse I will, but I waiting answers from M22K and I am kinda stuck until I got answer from him so I dont wanna have time wasted on nothing lol

other pic: (http://i42.tinypic.com/vdddz6.png)

Good point xD I like your determination!

I would say it definitely is materials, cause eyes worked well with another material. I even created a new material for the purple eyes, and worked. And I fixed the head the same way. But, when I tried to make a new material for the tail, to see if something changed, this happened:

(http://i.imgur.com/1giko.jpg)

All the body, except for the last changed, was reverted to the weird environment... -_-

Anyway, if you create new materials in 3ds from scratch, you may be able to fix all the body and not to get weird colors anymore >.<

thanks about the answer, so the material it the bad guy where.
that gives me the answer I looking for, will continue do the rig on his arms :3

will do tests about this on material x3

well i dont mind bowser before Mewtwo i want that bowser xD want mewtwo also :P  good luck making new materials

really wish I has home right now, the mewtwo and bowser would be much faster to finish :notimp:
that's leaves me with some rigs to do.
I might even do the rig on the second on the list :]

offtopic: it's my birthday today :happy:

Happy Birthday :D
and good luck at finishing Mewtwo and Bowser :af:

Happy birthday! mine is tomorrow xD seriously

So you'll finish Mewtwo soon?

so its your birthday? xD happy birthday and good luck with Mewtwo and bowser :P

ofcourse ;3

and thanks everyone!

I am "kinda" stuck with mewtwo because I am with a place there I need to test every change I doing D:
and if I go too far I might redo everything :srs:
but luckly, I can test for myself on wensday/thursday :3
so I did the second on the poll for the moment!
(http://i39.tinypic.com/21ecewy.png)
SCRAGGY <3
guess who he is over?
but beware, he is not complete. this is just a roughly rigged.
see:
(http://i42.tinypic.com/288r3fq.png)

I'm guessing Lucas.
BTW, happy birthday.

 :happy: happy birthday!! ◕ ヮ ◕

Scraggy is too cute  :D I agree. He looks like he's over Lucas  :laugh:

you won :3
why over lucas? 2 things: he is perfect over lucas with his bones and scale, tried mario but he has to tall legs for scraggy lol.
also, lucas has pants bones :]

and thanks you 2 x3

Happy Birthday! :D

also scraggy is looking good so far! I don't know exactly which abilities the character has, but compared to the original [google search] it looks really nice xDD

enjoy this day! x)

Happy birthday  :kdance:

Well, now finish the f**in Mewtwo xD

 :P

thank you x3
in short: Scraggy is a Fighting and Dark pokemon, he is pretty bulky with high defence and high attack but he is not the fastest.
his "pants" is elactic and reduce damage if he drags them up onto his neck.
he evo into Scrafty which is same type as he is
thank you x3
I will but I in that situations I wanna test everything each 5 second :srs:

did mewtwo shaders finaly got fixed by the method of cloning?or havent tested yet?

Happy Birthday!!!

Happy Birthday!

I always knew something was wrong with Ash...

@pikazz I'll send you recolors for Scraggy in a bit.

Happy birthday dude!
Btw Scraggy looks good!

My birthday present:

(http://i.imgur.com/tdcL5.jpg)

what it is? :3 is it a perfect shaded tail? :D
it look likes it

guess pikazz gets a shaded fix mewtwo as a present :P xD

Yes, it is xD

The solution: Rigging the tail from scratch, with a new skin modifier.

It looks like it wasn't normalized, there were zones in the tail with no weight at all. After normalizing, I've seen some shapes similar to the horrible shades there were, but I wasn't able to fix them even rewriting them. Removing the skin and rigging again succeeded.

that looks epic! dude you should make a video of Mewtwo! would be nice to see him in action xDDD

I don't own that mewtwo, it's pikazz's. Also, it's unfinished, it doesn't look good enough, especially the tail (or at least the outdated one I have). I guess pikazz will make the proper showcase once it's finished.

THAAAAAANK YOU *shoper keeper from wind waker*
so the rigging was the problem? :3
awesome!

send me :D
a question, is the rest of the model normalizied or should I do that aswell? x3

... send? Erm... I've just deleted the max file without saving... >.<

I mean, it's outdated, I discovered the problem, so there was no point on keeping it...

I've not watched if it was normalized or not, but it looks fine in game, so I suppose it's okay. Anyway, another problem with mewtwo would be the shades in the whole model. I don't know if you noticed it, but it shows dark in brawlbox. That means the normals are not fine, cause the light in brawlbox comes from the camera. I guess we already talked about that, and moving the normals with the edit normal modifier is a temporal solution...

But the proper one would be resetting the models somehow... I guess I did it with Link the other day. Just exported as dae, imported the dae, and fixed the problems caused by the skin, which moved my model to wrong places. I'll tell you how if you end up needing it.

so I only need to rerig mewtwo (ported) model to fix his shadings and when fix the model the same thing on the unported version?

sweet :D

It would be cool if you sent me the results so I can test them xD

Have you started to fuse parts like the nose and such anyway?

oh, I forgot to ask that D:
I hope you know, I tried to fuse but I need to correct UV and add a tetxure with both head and eyes.
the problem is the head is mirrored but each time I trying to do that gets repeat instead D:
where can I change and do that?

have I do on his hands too?

Mmm... What I did in those cases was repeating the texture in the 'macrotexture'. That works for only-once repeated textures. But if you need to repeat a texture many times, then we have a problem.

I mean, if the original UV points for a texture are out of bounds, in a single texture, it will get a repeated version of the texture, but in a bigger texture, which there are more things than just that texture, the repeating needs to be made by hand.

When you release Scraggy, could you please include a recolor of him from the show? (It looks almost exactly like the in-game shiny version.)

Also, could you please please please try to make a Scrafty import? Over what character do you think he'd work?

mewtwo is getting fixed now!
only thing now is rig his arms to unmoved arms bone and that, it's done until I can test and see myself.
but if it isn't any errors, it's complete :D
I believe soneek wanted to do scrafty :/
which show? O.o never saw a shiny version.

but I believe luigi or ness would be exellent to scrafty, though about ganondorf but he is little too big :/

Mewtwo looks awesome pikazz. Also, I didn't know it was your birthday, so here's something to inspire the finishing of Mewtwo. Here's a cake for you:

The Pokémon B/W show. Also, Soneek doesn't have Scrafty n his accepted requests list. Maybe he doesn't know which character to do him over?

I don't wanna do Scrafty...too many requests to fill lol.

my birthday gift to you all (but it's suppose to be vice versa lol)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/1087a78.png)
unported :happy:
this is a truly one slot mewtwo now!

that cake is a lie mewtwo!

sure, I can see if I can do Scrafty :3
scrafty and scraggy <3

hmmm sounds good xD


okay I understand sorry is just I was too much exited about the news :33 haha x3

Edit: thanks for the birthday gift! lol nice looking progress xDD

Pikazz.
It looks amazing.
Do want :srs:

pikazz you should send mewtwo 200 so he can take some sexy pictures to see shaders and taill fixes :P

leaving some more tease
(http://i40.tinypic.com/6gc0lw.png)

maybe, but I wanna test by myself and test bowser, scraggy and bob-omb buddy ingame too lol

well you already have any idea when you will be near your wii again?

this wednesday or thursday x3

gah! meeting an error I can't find D:
I missed a spot of rigging behinds his chest I found out this morning but each time I trying reimport I get error D:
have looked everywhere but I can't find the problem ;_;

EDIT: I found it :3

EDIT2: I got the problem AGAIN DX

:vyse: I'm liking the Mewtwo

since I got mad over the problem, I let it a pause on it.
so I did work on this little fella
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2h6rjtf.png)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/1h33a8.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2j3m81l.png)
I also practising on rigging
also, the rigging is done! the only thing left on scraggy is material fix if he has some problem with that, metal texture, Yellow eyes and PAT0 hacking.
lol, both Mewtwo, Bowser, Scraggy and Bob-omb buddy is almost done, only test for bugs left.

but mewtwo has priotity :3

I swear, when I saw "One" in one slot, I thought it said "out" O_o

Same here O_o

i hope this week we can expect a mewtwo release :P

you made me always read that now! happy now? xD

maybe an release of bowser, scraggy and bob-omb too :D

who is bob omb over ? since i kinda forgeted xD

And who's Scraggy over too?

Bob-omb is one-slot over Jigglypuff

Scraggy is one-slot over Lucas

Then I won't use Bob-omb because I luv my dear Jiggs but I'll use Scraggy because I hate Lucas! ;)

Do you have any idea who Scrafty could go over?

I love jigglypuff, it's my brawlsona lol
but bob-omb is also love but he could be over someone else other than jigglypuff or kirby lol
possible over luigi or ness like I said before,
want ganondorf but I see some flaws in that :/

i think you should put evos over the same character if his pre evo is over lucas he should be over lucas too just my opinion

It'll be weird using a psychic Scrafty lol

this can be fixed with PSA xPP lol

No thank you I will keep Project M pure.

Okay no prob xD

Scraggy need a weapon instead for Lucas treestick (which is a model attach to lucas) and since I seeing Scraggy as a child, I gave him the perfect weapon!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/8wm7me.png)
I gave him the cleffa doll :]
this is his SideSmash, smashing the opponent with his precious doll :3

(http://i39.tinypic.com/29f5th2.png)
the charge up on SideSmash

(http://i40.tinypic.com/a5c1v6.png)
a special made Win2. instead for lucas old treestick poking with in on the ground, he is hugging his doll with happyness x3
the win2 will propely not affect desync in game so it will come with the special win2 :3

not mine :/
it would look awkward if they are exactly like, it's like I moving exactly now as I am when I am 60-70 years.

I know but lucas has acually some kicks to give o:

I don't think Scrafty shoukd go over Lucas too because then we couldn't have a Scraggy vs Scrafty battle and lovers of both wouldn't be satisfied...I personally prefer Scraggy xD

I want Scraggy!!!

That is the cutest thing ever (´◉◞౪◟◉)

Scraggy is definitely a keeper.  ;D

Talking about Scrafty? I agree that it shouldn't go with Scraggy over Lucas. If I recall, I remember you posting something up front in the OP about considering putting him over Luigi.

I also remember you posting something about him going over Ganondorf, but that there will be foreseeable problems. What kinds of problems are you expecting? Is it that Scrafty's legs are so low to the ground that it wouldn't look good over Ganon due to his obvious height and leg length? Or is it his pants-skin...thingy?

I'm not sure if editing his bones would do anything to help it. A size mod might help but you might not want it to de-sync Wi-Fi...  Or if you'd want to do that. De-syncing Wi-Fi isn't really that big of a deal. Online in Brawl is terrible anyway... but, that's if and when you start working on Scrafty.  ;)

How're things going for you nowadays anyway?  :)

I would want him over Link.I have Rayman over Luigi (I won't delete him,it's my childhood hero algon with Crash bandicoot xD).

Link's sword could resemble Slash and when the sword hits many times the enemy it could be
Poison Jab (Scrafty can learn it, just checked).

Too,what about Jynx over Peach?

But evolutions have pre evos attacks also so i guess you dont like squirtle evo line over squirtle same with charizard and ivisaur and you wanted riolu not to be over lucario? i just say this because this was the reason one slot size mod was invented :P for example you made a psa for scraggy you could have one slot  Scrafty  this is just the way i was thinking dont get me wrong its just my opinion but choose wohever you think it fits better.

If Scrafty and Scraggy are both one-slot, then it's fine if they're both over Lucas.

On a side note, Scrafty will debut in this weekend's Pokémon episode! It will have a curious interaction with Ash's Scraggy. :]

It's not okay! I want to have both Scraggy and Scrafty with their own recolors! I want my hacks to be as real characters: well done (like imports) and with their recolors,CSPs and all that

Hey guise, whenever I download something, it doesn't show up in my downloads count on my profile. What up with that? Also, seeing that you're able to put the cleffa doll into the game, is it possible for you to make a taunt/victory of Scrafty pulling his hood up? Or maybe just a seperate texture of him with the hood on?

download acc counts how many hacks with your name ppl downloaded not how many you downloaded lol i was thinking about that but i dont know if pikazz has enough bones to  mess around with the skin lol

Why don't you make the two forms of Shaymin to go over Zelda and Sheik? That's the only Pokémon I can think of who could fit the transformation between those two...

they would look awful with zelda sheik animations lol shamin should fit ivisaur being quadroped and grass

Yes but I wanted a two-form pokemon to fit Z/S

(http://i40.tinypic.com/25kj3lx.png)
WHO'S THAT POKEMON?
and who is it over? :]

lol thank you xD

it's that you said about ganon. the problem is his legs and bone struckture, otherwise scrafty will be named "longfty" and he would be look pretty awkward if I trying to get him one-slot.
Luigi would be good because of his bonestruckture and animations, it fits him pretty good.
ness is slightly better than luigi because he has a better bonestruckture but the animations to it doesn't fit it's personallity D:
lucas is a other good example but I have already scraggy over him, trying to get all my hacks over other characters if possible.


I dont know if possible cause the hood was never used in PP2 so there is no extra object for it D:

Who is over? Lol

that's I want the other to guess so I dont tell it now :3

wolf is the best fit xD

That isnt Meowth, its Caterpie, duh

jk

im guessing....
over Luigi?

It's mew and it's over Squirtle :P

I'm guessing he's over Ness...?
Hard to tell from looking at the render.

THE POKEMON IS!
MEOWTH!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/34hexxj.png)
and he is rigged over toon link!
no one guessed about the rigging right so no one will get cookie >:3
but I guess you thinking "hey, how about the sword?"
easy peasy, already fixed~
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2w2qwk3.png)
The cat is living to his dreams!
(someone gets the referance?)


attackwise with claws but not the bone struckture :srs:

Its from Pokemon Channel :3

Also, My amy PSA will look weird with meowth. *downloads when this is complete*

congratulations! you just won yourself a cookie :3
*gives cookie*

:3 thanks youz! I look forward to meowth and I feel smartz :D

Hey XXDrak, Gen 5 is awesome, isn't it?

yeay! soon (around 6 hours) I will be able to take ingame pics of every rig I have done, especially mewtwo! :3

and I expect PSA on my rigs :srs: :happy:

well agfan is making an updated mewtwo psa and bowser really doesnt need a psa since its bowser lol of course scraggy is the one needind a psa the most.hope to see that mewtwo on the vault soon :P

I was hoping for Meowth to be over Wolf but yeah.. the bone structure..

I prefer 3rd generation but 5th is awesome too! I love scraggy and my starter was Oshawott so that's why they are on my avatar and sig

yep xD
that's right... a REALLY updated one xD

@pikazz I wish you luck while testing your imports, dude. x)

@Pikazz
Great! Can't wait for Mewtwo! :af2:

Also, Gen 5 was really good. Better than Gen 4, in my opinion.

Here is the test:

Mewtwo: Forgot to change into the newest so I tested a old one ^^;

Bob-bubby: same here.

Bowser: Freeze after 2 sec on CSS.

Scraggy: Great! but he needs to fix his shadings on both his body and dolly.
I forgot to take a pic lol

Meowth: works great!
(http://i42.tinypic.com/m3l90.png)
perfect shading! but little to big to be a meowth lol.
 but when I ended the game and went out from no result screen, it froze.

will correct the files of mewtwo and bob-buddy and test those and test scraggy and meowth on other stages

I could make a PSA for Scraggy.

That'd be totally AWESOME!

I am now happy :happy:

lol


 :oshi:

Mewtwo: tested once more with almost right version.
he is more brighter than before I did the "fix"
and he got the nasty miscolor and his rightshoulder is weird O.o
and something is about my rigging D:
it's like a object that doesn't have any rigging but I know I have DX
will rerig once more sadly without dat "fix" from scratch on his tail and arms.

Scraggy: I FOUND OUT WHATS CAUSING THE MISCOLOR GLITCH!
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2ns9iwy.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2a7dg6g.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/160vk8n.png)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/20aynsx.png)

I played scraggy though whole classic after bugs, no one found :D (if you count out I forgot to change visibility bone on cleffadoll)

the solution was easier than I excepted O.o
will do this instead on mewtwo after I have rig it once more

so mewtwo is getting rigged again? hope this time its for good since hes been rigged and reriged alot of times :P

Nice! I LOVE Scraggy!

Is it a 3dmax solution or a mdl0 one? :3

Could you describe me what you did? xD

I dislike the overly-nostalgic original 151 fans who say things like "Gen 5 sucks! They're running out of ideas!", "No originality!", "They aren't based on animals!", and "They don't even look like Pokemon! They're so ugly!" And when you look at gen 1, there are some pretty poorly-made pokemon, like Voltorb (a pokeball that evolves into a pokeball turned upside down), Diglett (a mole that never shows its feet and evolves into three of them put together), Seel (a...seal pokemon)... you get the point lol.   

Well I actually think gen 5 is less imaginative and the Pokémon are very strange,but people must learn to enjoy that gen on its own way like I did

for me the best gen its the second and first not becuase of the pokemons but becuase of the game itself they have a better story mode especialy gen2  for me the worst gen so far was the third the game was all wierd so many turning back to complete certain parts of the story made me dislike it thats my justification 5 gen is so so nothing to fancy but seen worst

[offtopic]

The gen5 generation lacks what I really like from pokemon. A 3D battle game.

Once they make it, if they make it, it will be the best gen. Still, I like the legendaries from 4th more. And, I'm just a fan of 1st and 2nd gens, they started it all. 1st was the beginning, and 2nd was a great continuation. From 3rd on, they just added more pokemon to earn more money. But, still, I've always liked pokemon a lot.

[/offtopic]

I wouldn't be quick to judge gen 5 as less imaginative. It has some really cool and original pokemon like Volcarona, Scrafty, Zoroark, Hydreigon, and Haxorus, along with some more familiar closer-to-real-animal-like pokemon like Bouffalant and Braviary. Again, gen 1 had some REALLY lazy designs, like Ditto. In fact, if we were kids today, I bet we wouldn't think gen 5's pokemon are strange at all. I know gen 1 started it all, and that's fantastic, but the nostalgic fanboys should give gen 5 credit where credit is due.
As for the story aspect, gen 5 did have the best-developed story and most interesting villain, in my opinion.
I think Gen 5's real flaws are the continued existence of event pokemon (terrible idea), the too linear map (no big islands), the somewhat disappointing bonus bosses, and the lack of awesome bikes (bring gen 3's back!). 

I agree gen 5 has some cool Pokémon like Scraggy or Snivy,but some strage pokemon that I'd had totally cancelled like Trubbish.That Pokémon is the best example to say: if you're not gonna make it right,don't do it.Trubbish and Garbodor are for me the worst Pokémon ever.I like others like Scragg,Woobat,Sandile,Munna,Solosis,Rufflet,Vullaby and their evolutions.

My favorite Pokémon of each gen:
(AV=And evolutions)

1st: Charmander (AV),Bulbasaur (AV),Eevee (AV),Mewtwo,Mew
2nd: Totodile (AV),Politoed
3rd: Torchic (AV),Treecko (AV),Mudkip (AV),Slakoth (AV)
4th: Piplup,Giratina (Original Form) (I actually didn't like that generation)
5th: Scraggy,Braviary,Snivy (AV),Oshawott (AV),Purrloin,Pidove,Woobat (AV)


BACK ON-TOPIC: When do you think you'll release Scraggy?

last off topic on this busniss the problem with gen 5 is that they recicled gen 1 pokes lol first Patrat and watchog ratata and raticate has an example an gen 5 just copied gen 1  there are evo lines alomost indentical to gen 1 they copy meowth evo line machamp evo line hitmonchan and hitmonlee, pidjey evo line,geodude evo line,drowze evo line and many others  just compare they just reused existing ones from gen 1/4 and changed the spirits,gen 1 evolution and even type line pokemons and look at gen 5 they just altered the models  and went on they tryed to make a new gen1 almost all gen 1 lines are there with diferent designs for pokes this is why ppl say they were unoriginal theres so many dual types who dont exist yet and they just keep using the same and same again even tepig evo line dont we got blaziken and infernape with fire fighting why another one? they even maded a swampert evo line copy :S i mean why not going a diferent route do you needed another flyng pokemon starter to be normal flying?

the only gen5 pokes i find original are
snivy evo line
scraggy evo line
Solosis evo line
Ferroseed evo line
Tynamo evo line
durant

they copied tauros and even chancey and not gonna say anything about the ice cream pokemon who even has a straw i mean what the hell do ppl eat him up like that? and haxorus might be cool but look at garchomp he is almost an identical copy design wise.same with zoroark who looks like a dark lucario with huge hair.




on topic pikazz i hope to see mewtwo released soon

it's mdl0 and hex :3

I wanna test that method on both meowth and mewtwo before I give out how do it, I might being lucky about that D:

Offtopic: I like the first gen because that where everything started. the pokemon where got the "template" of how every pokemon should look like.
I like every pokemon gen to be honest, they all feeling like pokemon but that's my opinion.
but in story, gen 5 was the best while gen 1 was the second basic but still very great.

to be honest, I hate gen 4. there it was the most of it's pokemon I didn't feel like pokemon before I got to knew them and the story wasn't good and pretty complex.
and to many legendaries D: still diagla and darkrai is hnnng <3

I like how you guys keep my thread active by pokemon talk :3
but I believe that's little far to offtopic guys D:

so quick! to the onroad mobile! :srs:

My final message about the topic:

I don't see the logic in your view. Just because they make another rock-type line that follows the same pattern as Geodude's (including trade evolution) doesn't mean it's a bad thing, per se. In real life, there are many kinds of fish. Are they just copies of one another? Not necessarily. Many fish look very different. So if Game Freak makes a water-type fish Pokemon in one generation, and then makes another water-type fish Pokemon in the next generation, how is that a problem? People say that Snivy is a copy of Treecko just because they're both green reptile starters, but that's a total fallacy; they look nothing alike, and they aren't even based on the same animal. It seems to me that by your logic, there should only be one Pokemon family for each type (which is stupid). I do agree that they should stop making Fire/Fighting, though. Not because the additional fire/fightings are ripoffs, but because the type combination is being overused. Sure, gen 5 follows the pattern of normal-type rodent, normal-type flying, et cetera, but it's been going on for many years now. Gen 5 shouldn't be hated if every other generation did it too.

As for gen 4... the Pokemon are (mostly) bland, the evolutions of the previous gen pokemon are hit-and-miss (Lickilicky is bad, but Yanmega is awesome), there are very few Pokemon (especially since like fifteen of them are just babies/evolutions of previous gens), the Safari Zone was horrible, but the legendaries were pretty cool.

Okay Carnage, now you're not making sense at all. Garchomp looks NOTHING like Haxorus. Zoroark looks more different than a Lucario with huge hair. Bouffalant is a buffalo, not a bull! You clearly don't know enough about the Pokémon series to judge it correctly.

^ Don't start stuff with Carnage, okay  ;)

Each Gen has something good to offer from gameplay to designs. Honestly after gen 1 and 2, Pokemon started to have this rpg style story lines that were too forced and the whole save the world thing really didn't do it for me.

If gen 1 was more like the pokemon adventures story line then that would change my perspective, since that is what it was about. Saving the world from the "evil" organization known as the Elite 4. Really great stuff...

The designs of pokemon, cater to the shift of the times. Gen 5 is as awesome as gen 1 to me. It tied things back to the basics. That's why it resembles the first gen so much.

----------sorry for the off topic stuff-------

Anyway, Pikazz, I'm so happy to see that you have learned how to fix the shading glitch.  ;D

Scraggy looks awesomely adorable (´◉◞౪◟◉)

Good luck rigging Mewtwo again. Hopefully things go smoothly for you. I also, can't wait for your awesome machinima!  
◕ ヮ ◕

Flowteau i have follow pokemon since the first game i have every pokemon game even crappy ones like pokemon dash i even had pokemon mini  so i know my pokemon i know every pokemon name until the end of gen4 gen5 was such a disapointment for me i didnt even memoryzed the names of them if you cant see the overwelming similarites in pokemons then theres nothing i can do what if bufalant is a bufalo and tauros is a bull why did they have to make another horny normal type which only diferent is an afro?cmon they look to mutch alike.I see i cant make you see they just recicled previus evolution lines made them diferent desing and went on i dont know if you ever played pokemon competetively but even stat wise they look similar and we have an ice cream pokemon a drudigon who i guess digimon ppl putted in pokemon and we even and a mirrorwith a face :S i did like Fire/bug moth finally a bulky and powerful bug type not  being bug steel and same with durant hes original we didnt have an ant pokemon yet altough he should have an ant queen evolution :P but most of designs are just copies if i cant make you see that theres nothing i can do everyone sees what they want to see and most pokemons fans were disapointed in gen5,gen4 had some wierd pokemons but atleast they felt original.

pikazz did you ever find out why bowser freezes in CSS?material or texture problems?

back to offtopic now :srs:
no, I haven't touch bowser after it D:

Not necessarily true; a lot of Pokémon fans love gen 5. I know that Boufallant is an "expy" of Taurus, but they don't look exactly alike. Admit it, your example with Haxorus/Garchomp is total bull[censored]. I do play Pokemon Online. You'll have to give me examples on those stat similarities, though I'll be hard to convince that STATS of all things would be a problem. If you look at this page http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompetitiveBalance, you should notice the principals of character balance. There's Lightning Bruiser, Stone Wall, et cetera. It's only natural that pokemon would fall into these few categories, so it's not fair criticism for gen 5. Gen 4 is much, much worse design-wise. Most of those pokemon are not memorable. Gen 5 has many pokemon that really stick out (mostly for better).

Your definition of "copy" isn't very clear. I don't understand the criteria you're putting on. There's nothing wrong with having more than one rock-type family and more than one fighting-type family, so what's your point? What do you expect Game Freak to do? You're glorifying gen 4 of all things, so let's dissect it. There's a fighting-type final form of the fire starter, an early-game rodent normal-type, an early-game normal bird, some baby forms of previous generation pokemon, some evolutions of previous generation pokemon, a pointless offspring of one of the legendaries that looks exactly the same as its parent... that's a lot of pokemon, right? Well gen 4 only has 107 pokemon. That's seven more than generation II, so it doesn't have the lowest count, but considering that a big chunk of them are in the same family as previous generation pokemon, that's very few. What's less original than making a new fighting-type family? Adding a freaking baby pokemon to a pre-existing line out of nowhere. In fact, there are so few "completely new" families in gen 4 that gen 5 definitely outweighs it. How could a generation have more original pokemon if it pretty much has less than half the amount of new pokemon as the other generations? Digimon isn't fair game, either. The more Pokemon Game Freak makes, the more likely they will come across similarities with other franchises. Blatant fact. There's no true evidence that Pokemon is copying Digimon, of all things. Sorry dude, I think nostalgia caught up to you. I've been a Pokémon fan since the beginning as well, and I'm completely okay with the direction it's taking, especially after the horrible experience that was generation 4 (though it did have cool legendaries and Lucario).

dont make my thread offtopic :srs:
take the "which generation" somewhere else there it belongs.

ONTOPIC:
I trying to figure out what exactly the Miscolor glitch is on meowth and scraggy and how to do great metal texture on scraggy (wanna do it on mewtwo but he is too valued to exprement with :<)
did the same thing I did on meowth what I did on scraggy, however it DIDN'T solved the glitch :/
but this keep me suspicios, I have my though on what causing the glitch.
however, I did some test about Metal texture!
(http://i41.tinypic.com/55jga9.png)

it went good :D
however, only it's eyes, mouth and bachhead that follows the camera.
body doesn't follow camera.
when Toy comes out, it freeze the game D: and I know why it does :[

also, do those who wonder.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/rwqk2w.png)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2prtslz.png)
YellowEyes and PAT0 works :]
Claus is a sneaky bastard

EDIT: I KNOW WHAT IS CAUSING THE MISCOLOR GLITCH :D
BUT DONT KNOW IF IT ARE ANY EASIER METHOD TO FIX IT
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2le6rrk.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/32zpbo2.png)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2aim06x.png)
played meowth though whole classic! no glitch :D
bt I haven't fix his yellow eye or PAT0 or metal lol

I found out that for objects that are moved by only one bone have the metal textures okay.

I bet the parts with metal=ok are only moved by the head bone xD

So, the solution for colors is...? In materials? Objects?

I prefer to solve it right before importing, but sure is interesting to know the part in the mdl0 that causes it >.<

Meowth is funny by the way xD

But what about Mewtwo pictures? It's okay not to experiment, but we would like to see the progress I guess O.o

BTW didn't you say that you had played with Scraggy all along classic mode and you didn't find any glitch? and we had doll's pictures.Why does it freeze now?

That sort of explains why the eyes on my stuff come out good, but the rest looks like cement lol.

Also pikazz, did you have to edit the motionpac to get the PAT0's working?

I can easy say that Mewtwo, Scraggy and Meowth is Wifisafe!
played with them online and no desync or anything :]
saving the best for last you know :P

I knew it about the single rigged thing, but I wonder why :/

it lies in Material and Color and Object, all three. will do a guide how to fix that.
the only thing that's buggy with scraggy is the metal Texture (doesn't follow camera)
and the doll metal texture freeze the game :<

nope :]
that's the epic part!

soz for that off topic pikazz guess everyone has their own opinion

Also any mewtwo picture? i want to see him with the shader pics since you found out why he chnage collor right? and so doll only freezes when your metal? wierd lol

Sweet! Could you explain how you did it later? It failed for me when I named my expressions the same as the original textures. xD

And shouldn't you disable the metal texture for the doll? the Doll's not part of Scraggy so shouldn't become metallic and since the snake doesn't get metallic for Lucas I guess the Cleffa Doll shopuldn't too

it's because I have to rerig mewtwos tail and arm D:

lol, many want me to do an tutorial
but lucas stick gets metallic :c

Ok,but I think just Scraggy himself should get metallic

Erm... did you rename textures AND materials?

^this^

will write a tutorial soon

Still wondering if you know when will Scraggy be out

I will release mewtwo first before scraggy.

after mewtwo is released and scraggys metal texture if fixed, it's release will ccome too :3

then u will try to get Caterpie over C Falcon :srs: [/troll]


i really cant wait for mewtwo :3

So I'll have to wait till mewtwo is rigged again? ooow cmon Scarggy's a new pokemon for Brawl!

M22K TEACH ME HOW TO SHADE IT'S TAIL :oshi:


scraggy is awesome! I know what I am doing  :srs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Lwsha9qac
to those who dont understand meowth's gitarr

lol I don't understand a single thing from the song lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4WC9Mh4HaA
the english version lol
and crappy quality :[

OMBOARD THE HYPETRAIN  :happy:

this one's better xDD tnks! xP

Ok,I'll wait then :P

??

Wasn't it done already? O.o

You need to re-rig it, if I'm not mistaken. At least that's what worked for me. Select the tail object, and remove the skin. Then, make a new one from scratch. The tail isn't complex to rig, so it should not give any trouble.

If it didn't work to fix the shade, then I should look into it again >.<

Will Meowth's tail be movable? I guess so but just to confirm...

it will not cause he is over toonlink D:

What a shame!

Can I convince you to release a beta of Scraggy one of those days?

wow dude be patient! we all want to play with those hacks but just patience is needed if we want a epic hack :)

also Pikazz
exactly what is left on Mewtwo?

a shade fix and a re-rig on certain parts of the body, and that's all?  :happy:

@pikazz
I am now dead and went to phantom wings

Too much [censored]ing epicness. Glad you put it in spoilers man.

Okay I died for 7 seconds and I'm back.... you have a release date for this??? xD

Edit: Okay I'm fully prepared to put the REAL recolors to this bad-boy!  ;)
and take your time for release, dude. xD

(srry I'm too hyped! xSSD)

cant wait for meowth

so finally mewtwo is fixed shading wise xD and rigg looks good he doesnt clip the ground with his feets and his taill doesnt break preety good work there pikazz we are all waiting for the release :P

I believe I have an release day and it's when the metal texture is complete and not a glitchy one!
when is COMPLETE!

OH SWEET BABY JESUS