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Hi !
I'm working on my first (and best :p) psa and animation hack : Long sword Hunter, from Monster Hunter !
He should be in Brawl with Mh3 on wii, and he will joins the brawl

preview :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEWRFb2dc9c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsjMqtGJPz4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5LPZ6FjbzY
As you can see, he makes low damages, but he has great range with his long sword


Neutral B : He Sheathes his sword / uses a potion when sword is sheathed

Side B : long sword combo (maybe a charged attack (if you keep B pressed, he does the 5 moves of the combo, if you realease B before, he does only 2 or 3 moves of the combo. The last one easy kill) or something like marth side B)   / Throws a Flash Bomb

Down B : He Quickly jump back (like EscapeB animation) and hit the ennemy, he is invincible for few frames / generate explosive barrel (like a blast box)

Up B : Same as snake but with a tiny Rathalos


----------------Texture, recolor, CSS, CSP... :----------------------------

(http://i.imgur.com/dOCTl.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/XdInp.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/6lOsN.png) by Lucifer_Gale
(http://i.imgur.com/msQWn.png) by smashmaster95


(http://i.imgur.com/pv19m.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/O8ILf.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/Q2q1k.png) by Lucifer_Gale
(http://i.imgur.com/Yh96c.png) by smashmaster95


(http://i.imgur.com/EeFIr.png)


(http://i.imgur.com/QmPcQ.png)  (http://i.imgur.com/scUV2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/RC4vR.png) by smashmaster95 and Lucifer_Gale


(http://i.imgur.com/r3F0b.png)


Original : Chain Armor : (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091206061054/monsterhunter/images/thumb/3/30/ChainArmor.png/200px-ChainArmor.png) or Jaggie armor :(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100106083602/monsterhunter/images/thumb/d/d9/Jaggie-Blademaster.png/200px-Jaggie-Blademaster.png)
Green : Rathian armor :(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091231125328/monsterhunter/images/thumb/e/e3/Rathian-Blademaster.png/200px-Rathian-Blademaster.png)
Blue : Lagiacrus armor:(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091230101432/monsterhunter/images/thumb/a/a0/Lagiacrus-Blademaster.png/200px-Lagiacrus-Blademaster.png)
Red : Rathalos armor :(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091230095546/monsterhunter/images/thumb/2/2c/Rathalos-Blademaster.png/200px-Rathalos-Blademaster.png)
Other 1 : Barroth armor :(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091231132823/monsterhunter/images/thumb/7/75/Barroth-Blademaster.png/200px-Barroth-Blademaster.png)
Other 2 : (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202214234/monsterhunter/images/thumb/6/62/Albatrion-Blade.png/200px-Albatrion-Blade.png)


----Hunter: balancing, glitch and other---------------------------------

-Moves shouldn't hit dehind him :
                        -side tilt
                        -dash attack
                        - ?
-Moves too fast :
                        -A,A,A
                        - Up Smash (add start lag)
                        - Side B without sword
                        - Potion
-Animation :
                        - Start running
                        - Up tilt
...

 Love this idea =3 two questions.
1: will you make him or her customizable? for example, will you include alot of costumes/armors for this, Like Alterion, or even Rathalos. maybe Lagiacrus. and is the
Sword going to be external article so it can be easily modified, and maybe use a custom sword?

Yeah, If someone can import or vertex the hunter, there will be one different armor for each color. I can't make it myself because i'm very busy with animation and psa^^
But i will use the external article for the Qurupeco (Ike have only one article, right ?)

Looks interesting, good luck on finishing it :P

I'm a fan of the Monster Hunter series, so I really hope this grows to be a great PSA.

Good luck.

Great progress on the PSA so far , looks really nice :)
btw ,  you are from France , right?
Does that mean this PSA is a PAL PSA ?

Yeah, I'm french, but the psa is a US one.

ohh okay :/

anyway , good luck on the PSA xD

 Okay, i've got an idea,

why not try and import the standard nekkid Monster Hunter Character. (no armor, and give him/her no sword) still make the moveset as of now, but when Blackjax makes it where you can import pieces of models over Bones and such. we can make them custom then.

or don't do this it's too complicated.

oh and the UP-B shouldn't be a qurepeco. i say this because it's a Monster Hunter PSA. so make it represent something Monster Hunter. why not a Rathalos a tiny Rathalos. because the Rathalos is always the Flagship monster for the series... just saying =3

I'll try your import idea if anybody can't make the model for me, because :
1) I'm not an expert of import and vertex
2) I have already too many work with psa^^

Rathalos seems better, you're right.

Progress :
-Neutral B seems working,
-Taunts animations done (pretty bad...)

 It's your first psa/animation hack ever. and might be your first model port as well..

I like the costume options, but i would think Rathain fits better for green =/ and if sometime in the future, add in a bunch of custom swords we could hopefully port over. i really want that option.

can't wait for all the new features of Brawlbox =3

is Standard B, a potion? and i've got an idea for Side-B. it's a thing you have to constantly press, it's like that one combo you could do with the long sword which activated it's extra powerful modes.

make that combo, and remove the powerful nodes. because i don't think we can make that sort of visual effect.

Thanks for your ideas !
Standard B is a potion. and all is working in game, exept it isn't healing for the moment :p

I'll try to make that the sword can easily be custom :)

I'm trying to import Rathalos mdl into the hunter pcs file, but the file is too heavy.
It will probably working tomorow...I hope^^

 Try and get the PS2 from Monster Hunter. that model isn't as heavy.

and if you cannot, make it something that makes some sense. like on the ground UP-B he places a barrel bomb, and it explodes him upwards, and it can be angled.

in the air, same concept but not on the ground.

I like the rathalos Idea. If It is really too heavy, try to get the model from the PSP do a simple rig over it and convert it to MDL0.

The rathalos model works now, but textures fail.

I'm working on Up B and Side B without sword.
Download coming soon :D

I really need an import of a male hunter with a long sword. when I try to rip something from my iso, It doesn't work ...

Instead of the Ludroth, maybe Alatreon armor? Albatrion armor: (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091202214234/monsterhunter/images/thumb/6/62/Albatrion-Blade.png/200px-Albatrion-Blade.png) but in purple.

Rathalos armor, plz.

V1 Done !
I'm making a video.
Download -> tomorrow (probably :p)!

In fact, a vertex of the hunter should be better, because an import could have some issue with animation and psa.
So I'm looking for someone who can make a vertex of the armors (If you can import that's good too).

[only if the importer fails at putting the armor properly over the character =/

This, and if it's over Ike, all they gotta do is put the swords in the right place, match the bones perfectly, and if his/her legs look weird, or the arms, you can just fix that through animations~

There are 3 problems with an import :
-some animation doesn't work correctly (but it's easy to fix).
-I used "model changer" fonction in psa, and it's doesn't work with an import, so I can't make the sword disappears when sheathed.
- Armors and hunter are in different files in mh3 iso, so there are a lots of things to fix to make it working.

For the moment, there are nothing, so vertex and import are welcome.

A good importer can combine all the files together to make one model, cause I'm pretty sure all the armor pieces are separate, but still they can do it. And I think you can make the sword disappear with animations.

Fantastic work so far :D

Thanks !

Download : http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24080

I think the moves are a bit too fast, except the Up B. Too fast for such a long range, and some moves shouldn't hit behind him. But overall, it's great. Love the barrel bombs btw, and flash bombs should be less spammable, too many can be used in succession, same with potions.

Good news. I decided to give importing a go, and I´m almost done with lagiacrus armor.

Oh wow, wonderfull work Iwvi !

Side tilt and dadh attack shouldn't hit behind, i forgot to modify it.
I will try to perfect the side B too.
Potion heal 3%, if that's too much I can easely make it heal 2% or prolong the animation.
Smashes and tilt are probably too fast. But Air attacks have the same landing than Ike, so I'm not sure they are too fast, but I can add some frames in the animation of Back Air and down Air.
Thanks for your advice !

I will make a list of things to modify for V2 in the first post, please comment and criticize !

The potions should still heal 3 but the animation should take a bit longer, if not, then as long as the shortest MH3 potion animation.
List:

NAir: It's good, straying away from generic sword moves, like.
UAir: It's fine, maybe a tiny bit slower unless it has endlag.
BAir: Also looks fine, maybe same as above with speed, but not the end lag.
FAir: That's fine, strays away from usual swordsman moves again, i like it.
DAir: It's fine, but maybe should only spike if it hits with the tip when pointing down.

A,A,A: Too fast, should have the speed a bit faster than Ike's old A,A,A, now it's faster than Marth's A,A.
UTilt: Animation could use some work, and the angle of the sword too.
DTilt: Pretty good but sends people pretty far.
FTilt: Animation is too fast compared to the original, maybe it should work like Link' FSmash but a bit faster and less powerful.

FSmash: Way too fast, should be as slow or almost as slow as Ike's original.
USmash: A tiny bit of startlag would make it perfect.
DSmash: I like it, should have more knockback, swap it with the DTilt's Knockback and hit angle?

Neutral B: I like it, but potion drinking needs to take longer like in the games.
Side B:  Combo goes too fast, should be input based like Marth's where you have to press B. Flash Bombs get thrown too much in succesion, it should take a while for him to be able to throw another one.
Up B: Baby Rathalos :D
DownB: Barrel Bombs! They're placed a bit too fast though. And for the backjump one, it should work like an escape counter. Get hit, block and jump back.

^All based on the video in your OP except specials.

D air spike but can't kill a player, cpu are so bad against spike, so they died in the video, but you have to spike two times to kill a human player with 50-90%.

AAA and FSmash are really too fast, I will correct that.

Potion are too fast too, and I've discovered you can be heal 2 times if you touch the ground when you are using it. Maybe healing 2% in air, with the same animation, and 3% on ground, but with a longer animation ?

Side B with sword is pretty bad, I will work on it. Maybe you have to unsheathe and sheathe again the sword to throw another one ?

Barrel needs start lag. But with sword one of the way to use it, that's explosing barrel without taking any damages. And there are already 3 characters who have counter (2 if you keep hunter over Ike, I put him over GW)

Good Idea for Dsmash and D tilt.

Alright, keep the Down B as is.
Also, damage, smashes should always range from 12%-20% for a strong hitting attack, you aerials need to weakened to 7-14%.
A,A,A should maybe total around 15 or so, tilts should do around the same damage as aerials.
Side B should do around 3+3+4+4+6 for a total of 20, Neutral B in air should be something different..

Semi-Off Topoc: Import of Lagiacrus Armor done. I included a .pcs compatible with this PSA.

On-Topic: I liked side b moves (rustone/flash bomb). The dash atack and Aerials are really good. The A,A,A animation could be improved to look more like the hunter attacks. And I agree, the neutral B on Air should be different. Also, when starting to run, you can see the animation of Ike's take off (when he starts running). You should do something about it. Excellent work so far :af2:

I'm highly interested in this PSA as I'm a diehard fan of MH series (Currently playing Wii's MH3 still).

Bon travail, Yorsh!

Great work Iwvi, I gonna try the armor !
I'm working on a stage, to do a break with psa, but after I will work on the V2.

merci Albafika ! ;p

On V2, change his final smash. By the way, since it is over Ike, you´ll have to pull a trick to edit his final smash. For some reason when his final smash hits enemies always fly up and stay in the center. If you are editing it (hope you do), the explanation was on thread for CON naruto V2 by .Fade, but I could not find it again. If you need help on that I´ll chek my Tsuna PSA, since I used that method there, just forgot how to do it :P.
By the way, should I do more armors? not sure which one do next. I´ll probably do narga (personal fave :srs:) then rathalos ( a classic :af2:)

Rathalos and Rathian for team colors ^-^ and Alatreon for smexiness, whichever you want. the more the merrier!

I agree with xzedkiel for armors, but do as you want, you import, so you have the power^^

I will edit the FS, of course : do you have idea fot it ?
something like Ganon but with a  Rathalos ?

 Actually that doesn't sound half bad =3

but don't make him charge, make it shoot a giant fire blast all across the stages, because int's huge and if you hit them with a  fire ball that size will kill people.

I like that Idea of the fireball, and the rathalos is already there, just needs an animation where he is bigger. He already appears when the final smash activates anyway.

 I mean, it should be dodgable, like you can see it coming.

and when the Rathalos launches it's single breath shot, it should only hit one person and that person takes like 70% damage, while being launched 90 degrees to the right or left and hitting others to transcend damage.

90 degrees has no right or left, is up, isn't it? And I would like it to hit more than one person, I mean,  is a freaking huge fireball :srs:

For the final smash, im not sure if this is possible, but maybe you can control the Rathalos (kinda like landmaster) and shoot fire balls. But just a giant fireball works good too.

Oh and for other armors Alatreon, Ceadeus and Jhen are pretty smexy
Also guild armor is classy  :af:

Ceadeus, had totally forgotten him :srs:. And It´s true, controlling the rathalos would be awesome, imagine the hunter standing (or sitting) on top of the mighty rathalos and making fire rain in the battlefield :af2:. Sounds hard to do,tough. The giant fire ball is good in my opinion.

Edit:
Playing monster hunter I thought this:
I think the slow walk should be like the one you do in MH like trying not to get cought. His AAA, should be the long sword combo that you do in MH by pressing: O (front stab), A (moves the sword from his front upwards), AO (swings the sword in front of him and moves backwards at the same time). Try this combo in MH and you´ll see. O(circle) A(triangle).

Loving this thread. I was thinking... wouldn't Hunter Armor from previous Monster Hunter games be a good one to use, considering it has been used to represent hunters in several cutscenes. I can't remember if it is in Tri or not...

Also, loving that Lagiacrus import!!!

^This entirely though it's my 3rd favorite armor lol
Ceadeus, Alatreon, Rathalos, Rathian, and whatever others you'd like, such as the Nargacuga armor :3

Oh, I remembered something. The dodge could be a roll, like in MH. And Ceadeus armos is like a viking or something? It makes me think of vikings.

It is, look at the name of one of the weapons, Viking Hornsword. :D and shield of the Sea Striker is round and looks like a viking type of shield.

interesting...but as always i only have one question about psa's...its it balanced?

Yes.

I honestly feel that this PSA is underpowered, but that might just be me. (or it just seems underpowered compared to other PSA's)
Also, down B (barrel bomb) plus flash bomb can spam against the CPU, but it think that against another person that it would not be a problem.

That barrel bomb falsh bomb combo can also be done in MH. Its not really underpowered, its just hard to get used to some moves, and some hits are kinda off. Like up smash, its a really weird hit :P

Really nice psa, and after the improvement sounds to be more epic! Next step could be a Felin PSA over Toon Link, they are very similiar XD

Or one from god eater, they are similar as well :P. Now speaking sriusly, the animation for rathalos flying can be improved. It seems as though you only move his wings. It would be ok but I dislike how his feet are bent, I'll try and see If I can get it to look more "natural".

If someone want them I've made a CSP for the Lagiacrus Armor, and the name with his portrait for the dark blue flame set.

(http://i.imgur.com/6lOsN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/O8ILf.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yhAQV.png)

I think the CSS Icon should zoom into his face waaaaay more.

How about this?
(http://i.imgur.com/RC4vR.png)

Also I prefer monster hunter instead of just hunter so i made this
(http://i.imgur.com/Yh96c.png)

and i've got a csp for the jaggi armor ike
(http://i.imgur.com/msQWn.png)

It looks much better zoomed on his face, nothing to say about it. Also I named him "Hunter" because that's how I refer to the character... "Monster Hunter" sounds to me much like the game instead of the hunter himself. But maybe it could be better call him "Long Sword Hunter", although it's a little bit long for a name XD

Mod: And if someone want it I've made that version too XDD (http://i.imgur.com/Q2q1k.png)

I made some CSPs, name and other stuff:
(http://i.imgur.com/dOCTl.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/XdInp.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pv19m.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/EeFIr.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QmPcQ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/scUV2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/r3F0b.png)

Amazing job, love the CSPs and the dragon icon ;D

Felyne forever!  :af:

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1347/felyne.jpg (http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1347/felyne.jpg)

Victory theme done, check my vault (I'm using my DS,I can't copy-past the link :/ ).

Nice victory theme man, I'll get it when the other imports are done lol Well, enough for team colors and a main slot. So one Rathalos, Rathian and another are done. x.x I'm honestly just waiting for those..

When i saw this Long Sword Hunter over that useless Olimar, i said "woah !"
Unfortunately i put everything into the right folders and i activated the 2 codes, when i put my P1 token on Olimar... INSTANT CRASH !!
I am sure i did nothing wrong. And it is not said in the description that it does not work for PAL.

The .rel file isn't for PAL users, you'll need a custom .rel file for PAL users to use him on Olimar.

It does not matter now !
I spent almost a whole day to install an usb loader and to get a brawl US ISO.
Everything i couldn't change with my PAL disc is now possible !
I'll start with that Long Sword Hunter, but later. Got many things to fix before.

Megaupload is down and all my file was on megaupload !!!
I deleted the hunter over GW pack, if someone have it, can you upload it pls.
Else I will make it again...

It was already on mediafire.

Here you go buddy =) http://www.mediafire.com/?8t3iisp0399vm9i
Oh, nervemind XD