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Yes. You read this right. This is not a cheap attempt at a late April Fool's joke.

I'm coming OUT of retirement, and I will resume King Cold, then I will do a Magolor PSA!

I had wanted to originally mod Smash 4 on Wii U, but it's nothing but trouble for me. So I'm stepping back to where I'm comfortable!


MAGOLOR (Final Boss Phase 1) (Kirby's Return to Dream Land)

(http://i.imgur.com/BOQMLb8.jpg)

Current status: In progress.
Base character: Luigi
Boneset: Luigi Original, no edits.
Rig: Finished (100%)
Materials/shaders/textures: WIP. Still fixing shaders and perfecting materials. (65%)
Animations and Moveset: Not started. Won't be started till last step is finished. (0%)

KING COLD (Dragon Ball Z)

-PIC COMING SOON!-

Current Status: On hold.
Base character: Ganondorf
Boneset: Ganondorf with tail bones and other edits.
Rig: Unknown (I need my files back from CaliKingz) (?%)
Materials/shaders/textures: Unknown (I need my files back from CaliKingz) (?%)
Animations and Moveset: Unknown (I need my files back from CaliKingz) (?%)

TABUU (Super Smash Bros. Brawl) REVAMP

-PIC COMING SOON!-

Current Status: On hold.
Base character: Ganondorf
Boneset: Tabuu Original, no edits.
Rig: Finished (uses original boss model) (100%)
Materials/shaders/textures: Finished (uses original boss model) (100%)
Animations and Moveset: Not started (0%)

What about including my port in the Tabuu section?

All right, can do!

your port froze my game dude, I have put every file in their respective folders and it froze, yo know why?

what do you need for real bowser?
only a model?

Yes, all I need is his NSMBWii model rigged over Bowser's bones.

did u use the .rel? and did u try to fight fox tabuu vs fox tabuu?

I've heard reports of freezing when using Ganon Tabuu vs Fox Tabuu, so maybe yeah.

I used Ganondorf vs Tabuu (port) and Ike = Froze.

New PSA added for later, if anyone's interested.

Tabuu's almost there. I have his FSmash working, complete with cool effects. :3 Now I'm going to work on his USmash and various other things. Once the VIS0 and SRT0 functions are added, then he'll be completed!

Will you be creating a Kirby hat for Tabuu where Kirby uses Tabuu's animated textures?

So this is a portable moveset?

:O Why have I not been using this.

KING COLD is coming to SSBB. He's gonna be a slow but powerful character due to his age and sheer size, and most of his moves will have hitlag because of their strength. Playing as Cold will require patience and skill. His moveset will mostly consist of parts of his moveset from BT3.


More to come! ;D

i see the animation on F-Air is from my Goku :D
if you like to revamp it i can maybe use it for Goku too

FAir? Whose FAir? Tabuu's?

The animations look awesome so far :D
Can't wait for more!! :P

Thank you, bud! :3

After I do a little more work on Tabuu, I'll show you all more of Cold!

king cold´s F-Air

he didn't show any F-Air animation yet xD

this:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/al_120114_20494binout.jpg)

I think this is the Forward-Smash Hold Animation

More Cold animations coming up tonight! Stay tuned!

Tabuu progress: I'm more determined than ever to complete him this year. <3 I already thought up of 3 new recovery moves (2 from lying down and/or tripping and 1 for his slow cliff recovery) and I might even re-do or tweak up some of his animations now that my animating skills have improved from working with Chiyako and King Cold. And I'm gonna re-do his edge grab animation because I've received many complaints about it. So that'll be done too.

Also for Tabuu, I've received feedback that his Dash attack has no warning sign that it's about to be used. Well, in the next version, you'll see a graphic on his core and hear a distinctive 'ping' sound when he's about to use it. I'll only use that SFX on there.

Also, when BlackJax releases the next Brawl Box, I'll add his animated textures to ALL his animations, and re-make some of them to use VIS0's instead of scaling to 0.001. And I'll see if anything can be done about his messed up graphic effects. Even Riivolution can't patch FitGanon.pac with ef_taboo in it, so we'll see. I'll have a talk with a few users to see if they can fix this.

Anyway, some more Cold eye candy. :3


EDIT!: I also "fixed", to a certain extent, Tabuu's Off Waves and Chop effects. They have issues still, but they look much, much better. Actually, you be the judges! ;D

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120131_22141binout.jpg)

Off Waves now include the pattern:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120131_22142binout.jpg)
And oh, that's where that last red ring was! :D
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120131_2215binout.jpg)

I think Tabuu is GREAT, I wonder why no one made him playable before... I have a few suggestions for you, if you'd like to hear them C:

-I really know NOTHING about animations and visual effects, but if you can make the Final smash look more like the original super-ultra-badass-powerful attack I'll love you, haha.
-The front throw is OK, but I think you should make the chain so that you can control it for a few secs C: (again, I know nothing about animations, so idk if that'd be possible) also, if it doesn't look good for a grab, perhaps the chain could be a B attack or smth...
-I really really don't like the front special attack, sorry :/ it looks like it'd fit better as a B attack too, like Marth's down B or smth :P

And.. well that is all .. haha, I hope I wasn't being an ass with my suggestions :P thankss 

Gee, thanks. ;D No one has ever told me he was great. I'm not super-great at receiving feedback on my work. Strange, because it inspires me more to work on him. :3

1., That's as close to the original as I can make it look right now. The effects have issues and I'm trying to fix them. :)

2. I don't actually think controlling the chain is possible, through animations or otherwise, sadly. :( And the chain is used for grabbing because he grabs with it in the SSE. I'm trying to re-create the SSE Tabuu experience as much as possible within the means of Brawl's limitations.

3. Do you mean his Boomerang throw? That's too bad. :( I love using that attack. The attacks are set up in the way I would have imagined his controls to be if he were playable.

Okay, so I'm gonna do more work on Tabuu and I'm gonna denote King Cold into a side project for now. I'm determined to finish Tabuu and do some polishing. (Example: re-do some of his animations. Some look like crap and I'm not happy with his Win2 anymore, where he teleports then does a laughing motion) Right now, his moveset file, Fit Ganon.pac is at 500KB and still working. But I don't know what his actual size limit is, and I think I'm really pushing it by messing with the REFT file, so I'm gonna shrink down the Off Waves pattern to give myself more room.

And I also added some nice new SRT0's to FitGanonMotionEtc, and the filesize of that is currently 3.16MB, so it still has plenty of room for all SRT0's and some VIS0's. By the end of this month, if all goes right, I might, key word here being MIGHT, release a third version featuring an up-smash and some more "fixed" effects.

What I WILL need is for someone to fix Tabuu's item hand for me. I need someone to re-Tabuu him to use items in his left hand rather than his right.

That is all for today, long post is long, see you laterz!

nononononononono I didn't mean front SPECIAL sorry D: I meant front SMASH, the one that looks like Marths down B :P I actually like front B too, haha, it's cool.

About the chain.. well D: too bad... I actually was thinking about porting (OR IDK!!!) Sheik's chain somehow :P but Uh Well, if it's not possible it's still ok :P

Oh, and one last thing... the version I downloaded was v.1  *facepalm* so I actually did suggest about version 1, lol. But I already downloaded version 2 haha I'll try it soon  :af2: thanks for replying to my suggestions. Keep the awesome work going, I love Tabuu.

Oh you mean the Forward Smash, right? I don't recall a move looking like Marth's Down B, but the Forward Smash is fixed in the Tabuu I'm working on now. ;D It actually hits. XD

Ah ok, that is good haha, and one question, what does the Up smash do? :P I try a lot of times but it doesn't hit or anyth

Wow good job Tabuu :D
I can foresee me getting the next version of Tabuu once he is release XD

That's because it's not made yet. I'm gonna work on it very shortly.



Heheh thanks! ;D See, it's feedback like this that keeps me going. :3

As for the previous poll, King Cold will fly up ladders, since that option won the poll. So expect to see that after I'm done with Tabuu.

EDIT~!: I DID IT! I DID IT! I GOT TABUU'S EFFECTS TO WORK PERFECTLY. No more [censored]ty jagged edges. <3

Snapshots!!

Neutral B (Bullet Rain)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/al_120202_1210binout.jpg)

Chop/Forward Smash/FAir:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/al_120202_12101binout.jpg)

Off Waves: Pattern and Rings working 100%
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/al_120202_12102binout.jpg)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/al_120202_12103binout.jpg)

And finally, his new Aerial Neutral B effect:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/al_120202_12104binout.jpg)

Those brand new effects look really good! One question, is it possible you can reduce the range on Tabuu's FS? It's overpowered on ver. 2!!!!

The Final Smash is too powerful? Well, I'll see about reducing its range. IT's because the red rings cover a huge distance, and since I can't figure out how to make the hitbox appear on the ring itself (to reproduce the attack 100%), it'll have to do... But I'll think about it for sure.

I voted: All right! Good job, Tabuu!!

And the new GFX for neutral B looks very epic :)

I'm so proud of myself for fixing those pesky effects, it took a while, but it happened. ^w^

I'll see if I can do more animation work today. :3

OH god the new pics look so good ♥_♥ dammit I love Tabuu so much and NOW I love you too lol (no homo xD)

Why thank you. :3 Try to contain your excitement. LOL ;D

Okay, so I'm going to finally start his DownD animations (facing down. I already have most of his DownU animations done, save for the DownUAttack, but I'll take care of that in due time as well. :3

Sounds good, will he have powerful attacks too (I've seen that Sephiroth PSA can own Tabuu V.2 because he lacks of good strong attacks :/)

Well, his Forward Smash and DAir are pretty powerful, but it's because it's punishable too. He's easy to hit during that attack. I'm also gonna EVER SO SLIGHTLY buff his DSmash, because sometimes it's hard to hit with the last hit.

Also, the final release of Tabuu will come with two alternate versions: an overpowered Tabuu, called Intense Tabuu, to better emulate the Boss experience, and a shrunken version. The overpowered version will feature major buffs and allow you to use the Off Waves when taunting AND when you use a Final Smash. The shrunken version will be of the "balanced"/normal version.

Sounds good :D

Sounds like I'm downloading Intense Tabuu then C:<

Haha, I see you guys look forward to Intense Tabuu. Well, I hope I won't disappoint. :D

Right now, I'm doing some minor effect tweaks within PSA. The Down Smash in particular. The Chop effect shows up at the wrong angles.

 The animation work will continue tomorrow. :)

well, I do want Intense Tabuu.
You will make him more heavier?
(Because my BOSS Mario and my Possessed Hammer Bro. destroy Tabuu easliy.)

I finished animating Tabuu's Slip Attack. I'll have a snapshot when the PSA for it actually hits. XD

I also did FuraFuraStartU. And I won't rest tonight until the slip attack works.

What is slip attack?
Dash attack?

Slip attack = attack animation from tripping. It's different from a getup attack though the concept is often similar.

EY is correct.

Well, I'll be coming at you guys very shortly with a snapshot, even though it doesn't work right now. (no crashing, but there's just no hitbox). I'll also show you the working Forward Smash and FuraFuraStartU

Okay, here we go. The move works now. ;D It's called the Subspace Triangle. He spreads out his arms and forms a triangle shape with his core fragments and electrifies opponents who come within its range.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120204_22502binout.jpg)

FuraFuraStartU: Gets up feeling wonky.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120204_2250binout.jpg)

Forward Smash: Self-Projection
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120204_21455binout.jpg)

Chop rotation fixes:
FAir:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120204_21452binout.jpg)
DSmash:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120204_21453binout.jpg)

*Reads title*
Yes! now i can trip and attack in style! :D

*Looks at pics*
Those looks a lot better good job :)

Hahaha! Attack in style? You like the attack? ;D

I also updated images on Tabuu's OP on the first page.

so your continuing tabuu psa xD do he have all the attacks already since last time i remenber the up tilt and up smash were missing

Of course, I'm continuing it. He's my pride and joy. XD

No, the up tilt and up smash are still missing. Right now I'm focusing on misc animations, which I had ignored for a long time.

I'm gonna try to do his CliffXXSlow anims today.

Dammit lol the fura fura attack thing looks so showoff xD I love it!!

Show off?

And thanks. ;D

Now I'm going to start a few more animations, and hopefully have more snapshots tomorrow. ;D

How you managed to fix Tabuu's Effects GFX?

Well, using the MiscData[2] in ef_taboo.pac. It was an REFT (textures) file. I took and used the ones I needed, and shrank one of the textures to save filesize. And now they look as good as the original. My FitGanon.pac is 453KB and still working. ;D

Wow... I don't know that can be possible....

You can see them in the newest BrawlBox.

So, how you been holding out since you quit hacking?

.....
You was right about metal texture..
Now I know why you don't want metal on all parts..

Of course, because his weapons look odd.

and colors changed too...

Yup, his glow stopped working when I tried to apply metal textures.

Glow stopped working?
mine don't and still work.
His body is mostly green and have multiple colors.

See here.

Wow... even his chain gets all weird... Wow, maybe Tabuu isn't meant for metal textures. D:

Oh, well. Today I'm taking a little break, but it's back to work as usual tomorrow. :3

yeah, even his wings's colors changed too.

I wonder why it does that. D: Well if ever you figure it out, let me know, I'd love to include it in the final version. ;D

Be honset...
I want keep him that.
Tabuu look good with mostly green and have multiple colors make Tabuu more colorful.
Well, Tabuu have many metal squares through him.

Well, that's your choice, really. I personally don't like those colors, but that's just me. D:

It's okey....

Tabuu's wings
I understand why because of this.

Wait a minute, why did his Flare bones turn metal? That's odd...

Anyway, excuse me. Back to working on Tabuu. :3

Hey...you have been animating longer than me.
Is it possible to animate along the Z axis with the Top N bone instead of the trans N bone?
I mean, the trans N bone is basically there just so the top N bone doesnt have to be moved right?

As long as "moves character" is checked, would that movement with the top N work? I mean since all bones are rigged to follow the Top N just like the trans N.

Also, as Tabuu is nearly done (or he seems to be) would you be interested in helping with Krystal? I mean like small animations like swimming and such.

It's possible, yes, but then it won't move in-game. Moves Character is for animations where even animating TransN would make it snap back.

And I'm still new at swimming animations. Mine suck, and I might have to re-do them.

Aww...that's too bad then, what about X rot N and Y rot N? or possibly the Hip N?
Either way, thanks for the quick answer :)
Good luck on your animating ventures and fixing tabuu =3

Thank you! :3

Okay, today's goal: start doing CliffXXSlow.

Good Luck on finishing Tabuu PSA Final Version.

Thanks, Died. :3

Anyway, I'm almost done the slow ledge attack (after 100%+ damage). It has 40 frames start up, but then it's quick. A pic once I get it hitting in game. :3

Those cliff animations are gonna take the longest, methinks.

EDIT: About the poll, the results are 6 to 1 in favor of keeping Win 2. That's good because I've had a change of heart and I'm keeping it. :)

Now my issue is with Tabuu. (The program). I need someone to change the bone with which Tabuu holds items. I need him to hold them with his left hand. Wihat happens with the right hand is that his chain won't stop showing up. Thanks in advance.

Use PAT0 to make chain invisible?

Well Died, if I do that, it'll also affect his Back Air, which I don't want.

Anyway, expect a snapshot of the new slow ledge attack sometime today. I'm proud of the animation. It was tough to make. :)

And later today, I'm going to finally start some of those DownD animations.

Okey, Tabuu's left hand Bone Index ID is 52 (82), Hex (Dec).

I know what the ID is, I just need someone to change it for me. I'm the one who's Tabuu-illiterate, remember?

Anyway, I have just the fingers left to animate on the CliffAttackSlow, and figure out why he goes under some stages, and it's finished. I'm having a considerable amount of trouble with the left ledge in Subspace Circuit, for example. Tabuu won't stop falling through the floor of that ledge when he attacks from the ledge. And on some skinny stages, he gets stuck underneath the ledge. I'll get to fixing that ASAP.

Oh,
I don't know Tabuu have that glitch with ledge and under some stages.

Okay, everyone. Glitches are fixed with both ledge attacks. :D

I'm also deleting the Eye Candy section of Tabuu's post. No worries, they'll be included in the release once he's done. But the orange recolor and the Black CSP/BP are all gone.

Anyway, here's a snapshot of Tabuu's slow edge attack: ;D

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120211_1702binout.jpg)

I still have Orange Tabuu.

looks great!

They're gone cuzz I deleted them.

Okay, so. I'm almost done with yet another animation, CliffClimbSlow.

The finish line is in sight, I can almost smell it. XD

How many Animations and attacks left?

Not very many, died. I'd say less than 30 animations and only 4 attacks (not counting his throws) at this point.

And I still have to re-do the item animations, even though no one's come to help me with Tabuu's item hand except for Anivernage, who must have forgotten to change the bone index.

....Tabuu (The program) don't open with your FitGanon.pac?

I'm sure it opens, but when he sent it to me, Tabuu still held items with his right hand. I want him to hold them with his left.

Okey.

Okay, everyone! :D

Thanks to Diedhammer's tireless efforts (I owe you many thanks, amigo), Tabuu now holds items with his left hand, thus no more chain and random effects on his item hand. :D

I'm also in the process of finishing up his slow ledge animations and redoing his Sleeping animations.

I've also put a placeholder Up Tilt until I can think of one. Next animations up, his Up Smash, which I like to call the Dual Whip. Other than this name, you get no other information for now. :D

Please keep waiting a little while longer. I'm almost there. ;D

Dual Whip?
Use chain attack to hit someone two times?

More progress: I'm in the process of finishing up the sleeping animations, adding his SRT0 to Slow ledge animations as well as implementing darkness effects to his entry animations to make him look like he's coming from Subspace to fight. :D I also expect his DownDXX animations to be finished sometime at the end of next week. ;D

I intend to finish Tabuu before the end of the semester. <3

looks like your making a big progress i will be sure to check it out when the new version is released :P

Okay, current progress: revamping "walking" (in quotations because he actually floats) animations, I finished his sleep animations and fine-tuning the darkness effects on his entry. I'm going to put off doing the Up Smash until those things are done.

Awesome :D

Thanks for the thread revival, Pika. :3

Anyways, I have snapshots of his new walking animations and his new WaitItem animation. I'm going to post them here soon. I also noticed that I made his Forward Smash too weak. So I'm going to need more knockback growth on in, which is easy.

I almost have the darkness effects licked. It's only a matter of finding the right timer values.

seems next tabuu will be awnsome :P

Yays, can't wait to see them

Okay, some more snapshots in Tabuu's section below the OP. Some of them are just updated with effects and stuff though.

And here's walking and wait item:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120219_2201binout.jpg)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120219_22011binout.jpg)

You will re-do items Animations?

All right, so here's the deal. :)

I've done a bit more work on Tabuu and I don't have much to show, BUT. I copied Tabuu's CLR0 file for the Off Waves, and now it LOOKS exactly like it does in SSE/Boss Battles! Expect some snapshots soon.

I'm going to start animating again Tuesday, and I will also record a video of Tabuu in action using his new effects and CLR0 files. You'll have to forgive me in advance, I don't have a capture card, so it'll be on a normal DV cam.

saw the video tabuu is looking good i see alot of done animations  xD

Current progress: Trying to tone down the Off Waves and make them closer to the original.

Also tuning up some Footstooling animations.

Awesome tabuu, tabuu XD

Okay, so here's the deal:

I've spent all night working on balance stuff. I've made the Forward Smash have more knockback growth because it was lacking it severely, I toned down the power of his back throw and I SERIOUSLY nerfed the Off Waves, making them less of an issue when facing a Tabuu. The FS itself is still effective even on large stages, but let's say it has a whole lot less kill power. I'm also planning to make the first hit more deadly than the other 2, like in SSE.

well tabuu welcoms some balances since he should fit with the rest of the cast :P

Agreed, which is why I'm doing it.

Anyhoo... vote now in my new poll. If there are enough votes by Sunday, I will release a Beta Version 3.

EDIT: I also just finished making his Upper getup attack:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Playable%20Tabuu/al_120316_22282binout.jpg)

I was working on this for Tabuu.

so what that suppose to be ? lol im confused

Tabuu Mushroom Head
(Just my test model)

LOL, not bad, Hammer, but what do you guys think of his getup attack? XD

It's great.

it looks something tabuu would do for sure  bam wierd energy to the face :P

That attack looks awsome

Well, I sent the current (unreleased) build of  Tabuu's files to Wolfric/Albafika, hoping he might be included in his PSA tourney pack.

Here's to hoping for good news~! ^_^

And now, back to animating. Only THREE attacks left to make. 3! (not counting item swings)

finishing the attacks would be a plus :P

I know, but I put the code back into the attacks I didn't make yet, so everything hits. :P

And almost everything is done, save for item animations, which are my last priority.

EDIT: I've hit a snag now. Whenever Tabuu gets:

-bitten by Wario
-Thrown
-Thrown by Snake/Ganondorf/Captain Falcon

His random extra models will show up, and not even VIS0s and bone scaling can get rid of them. So since it's an unfixable glitch, it'll be unfortunately included in the "final" version, and if anyone is ever able to fix that, they may do so as long as they credit me and diedhammer and all the people who worked on this PSA.

I think I know why...
Uncheck "Unknown" in PSA...

if its like size mods they go back to the original size  when grabbed and this might be that too since the original image is him full of weapons

Yeah,
A "Unknown" in PSA make things to original things, I think.

then its just an experiment but i think if you take some unknows out the game freezes but its worth a try

See this. (Just testing)
(http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/n528/Diedhammer98/al_110503_1752binout.jpg)
I just do this.

OMG IT WORKED! :D Thanks, Diedhammer!!

Now with this, I hope VIS0s and SRT0's will work too. :D

Now back to work for me then, it seems. :D

You are welcome.
It happens when if port Animations too.
(As Luigi's Wait1 to Mario's Wait1 make Mario more taller, using Uncheck that "Unknown"

Geez, died, you can fix anything. :3 I love you (no homo)

Anyway, looks like I'll have to try that with his animations not included in the motion pac (SpecialNBitten, etc.)

Not anything.
I failed to fix Tabuu Mushroom Head and Metal Tabuu.
But I understand.

You're still pretty damn good, fella. I'd call you a genius. :)

I owe you thanks.

yeah,
You know It is possible to make custom Final Smash eyes with using 3DS Max?

Yeah, I did. But Tabuu doesn't need them. :)

Oh.
I was thinking when Tabuu gets Smash Ball, his body turns to yellow.
(But that is impossible with Brawlbox only)

diehammer would that work with size mods no getting big?

That can works too.
(I'm not sure, Because I don't test size mods yet.)

Ok,. I'm unchecking that unknown on all the animations where Tabuu is grabbed, and then I'll test SRT0/VIS0 addition.

To: Tabuu Forte Akugun

In Final version. his Body textures always be Animated?

if you dont remenber geno model was freezing when bitten by wario becuase that unknown was not checked but i guess some models can get that unknown unchecked and still work lol

To: Carnage

Really? I don't know that.
Some Models is different than others

That is correct. :3

Wait... Geno crashes when bitten?

it crashed but mariodk updated the fix becuase rob psa had it unchecked while geno needed it checked lol dont ask me why

Tabuu crashes when bitten too...

need that unknown checked for biten

But otherwise his polygons show up...

small price to pay for no freeze lol atleast the trows work ok

I guess... but it's still a major pain.

I don't know Tabuu freeze game when bitten by Wario.
You did find this bug?
This happens If Shield timed correctly.

Yeah I knew of that. Which is why now it uses Special Offensive Collisions. You can't shield the Off Waves anymore.

Oh, ok.

It's now as close as it's gonna get to the original Off Waves. Boss Tabuu uses a system I can't implement in the PSA

What Animation used for Being bitten by Wario?

lol, i just elized. there are 3 forms of tabuu

Boss Tabuu
Hack Tabuu
and teh program Tabuu

SpecialNBittenStart
SpecialNBitten
SpecialNBittenEnd
And more for air and big (Super Mushroom), which are not included in FitGanonMotionEtc.

Oh, thank you.
(I really don't understand why Game freezes when Tabuu bitten by Wario. It works fine on my game)

Show me a snapshot then?

It is old version.
(Tabuu Ver. 2)

But you are right.
All parts show up.

EDIT: Seem I can't find this.
SpecialNBittenStart
SpecialNBitten
SpecialNBittenEnd
It is in FitGanonMotionEtc.pac?

How freakin' weird... Maybe someone can come in and look into this, please?

Anyway, I'll just keep animating for now.

....I think I found it....
It's....inside FitWarioMotionEtc.pac...I think...

But VIS0's don't affect it at all. D:

I really don't know.
I think ... should edit FitWarioMotionEtc.pac...

I might as well include WarioMotionEtc in the download too... Which makes no sense.

Yeah...
That Super Smash Bros. Brawl game have very strange secrets.
But I...think..If you edit that Animations in FitWarioMotionEtc.pac then...I think it's affected to all other characters..

those animations arent on every character they are only in for psa references  so you cant find biten animations but really  sure  it shows weapons when bitten but i think we can live with that imo.

this^
i wouldnt recomend it

Oh, well... Then Tabuu will never be truly complete.

Well, back to doing DownD animations. I finally started them over the weekend.

Honsetly, I don't mind about Tabuu being "all parts show up"
I like your ideas about Tabuu's attacks. I hope all attacks will be complete.
Real Tabuu is more powerful than your Hack Tabuu, right?
I wonder Your Overpowered Tabuu version will be more faster and heavier...
(as Wario-Man's Speed and my BOSS Mario's weight)

Oh, ok. If people don't mind then it's fine by me.

Which attacks?

Well, in SSE he is. But Boss Battles on Easy = my Tabuu is stronger.

Overpowered Tabuu will definitely be faster. I don't know about heavier, though.

To: Tabuu Forte Akugun

You said Three more attacks left.
Oh, I don't know that.
Just change Tabuu's weight to 90,000. (For Overpowered)

Yup. His Down getup attack, his UTilt and his USmash,
Don't know what? :O

Won't that make him not flinch?

Your Tabuu is stronger than Easy Boss Battles.

Well, He still can die. But very hard for other Characters to kill Tabuu with Weight 90,000.

I think he is. Boss Tabuu on Easy Boss Battles can barely budge his opponents at low %s.

Oh, okay. I'll keep that in mind.

You did tried Battle my BOSS Mario?

No, I didn't.

Okay, just asking.
You can battle him, If you want. (I still have my BOSS Mario files)

Could you send them over in a PM?

Yeah.

'Ok, I'll try him out! ^_^

Ok, Good luck fighting him.
He is very Powerful...

His FSmash is really strong.

And I love his DSmash.

Yeah, Sorry for that Boomerang's texture is bad.
I just can't got Hammer Bro's Boomerang model to work correctly.
How you feel when you trying kill him?

Frustrated, to say the least. LOL. He's near-impossible to touch.

Anyway, I'm gonna try as best I can to work around this annoying glitch with his thrown animations.

Yeah, I was trying to create realistic powerful Bosses. I mean WAY stronger than Tabuu on  intense mode!


Good Luck on Tabuu Hack!

This means, when VJ is grabbed his head grows, doing this would fix it?

Doing uncheck That "Unknown" can fix that, I think.
(I still don't test Size mods yet)

But won't it freeze just like on Tabuu and Geno?

And now back to work for me. I'll have a snapshot of Tabuu's new DownD animation later tonight. :3

Did he check ALL of the Bonerefs? BJ's newest BB can show you most of the bonerefs.
Maybe it's happening because a bone reference wasn't changed to fit Tabuu resulting in a BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

But this is a common, shared animation not included in FitGanonMotionEtc.pac.

That has bonrefs in all characters to check what bone is used for grabbing.

Tabuu has a different index from Ganondorf's, and why does it crash when I uncheck the "unknown" showed my Diedhammer?

if thats the case theres nothing you can do about it i guess since tabuu cant have ganon trown index :S

Ok, so as I said, the final release will be plagued with this puzzling glitch... Much to my chagrin.

If you did leave KC-MM.
What you will do?
(Hacking other games or move to other sites about Brawl Hacks or what?)

I don't understand why you're leaving... But in case you're moving to LST or something.

http://lsteam.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=animation&thread=159&post=5241 (http://lsteam.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=gotopost&board=animation&thread=159&post=5241)

I posted Tabuu feedback on your topic there.

dude cmon... no need to leave hacking just from some lame ol' glitch in tabuu.. i'd say just let it be since he really never had a ThrowN bone in boss battle/SSE.. but hey, if ur done with him now, y dont u work on some1 new? =3

Okay, ignore the last few posts.

I'm back in action (oh, and before you report me for necroposting, I got Miacis' express permission to revive this thread. ;D )

So anyway, BJ released his Miku model, which was the Project Diva model I requested. So now work on her has resumed.

Here are some previews of my animations with the new model. ;D


Credit to Kit for that last one. ;D

Don't mind the mess of expressions. I'm using VIS0's now, those snaps are outdated. But I've hit a snag. I think that because of the way she was Tabuu'd onto Ness, her BlinkFaceM is constantly visible despite the VIS0, and the Final Smash eyes don't show up at all. This happens even for regular ZSS over Ness.

Can anyone help me?

EDIT: Faces fixed! :af2:


EDIT 2: I finished the Forward Smash VIS0. When using it, she opens her mouth when the notes come out. ;D


Now it's back to animating. <3

@Tabuu Forte Akugun   

When You Have More Of Miku Can You Post A Preview Video ?

Of course, I can. ;D I don't have a capture card, though, so you'll have to deal with a simple recording from a DV cam. lol

Anyways, as with most of my PSAs, Miku will feature 100% custom animations, so this'll take quite a while. Next up: tripping, footstool and dash attack. ;D

@Tabuu Forte Akugun   

Thanks For The Info And Is She Over Lucas Or Zss If She Is Over Lucas Please Say She Is Without Rel.

She is over Ness. Not Lucas or ZSS. And no, it's not with a rel. ;)

@Tabuu Forte Akugun   


Oke Now I Just Need To Wait And Are You Gonna Release A Beta Or Are You Gonna Wait Untill She Is Full Ready ?

I'll release her in betas, no need to worry. It'll take too long to wait for the full version. ;)

Anyways, I'm working on the Side Taunt right now, she'll be slightly dancing. :)

Any Idea What The Final Smash Will Be ?

No, not yet.

BTW, if anyone has ideas, feel free to pitch them, ok? ;D

Oke XD

I need something that totally suits her. lol

Anyway, more snapshots to come tonight. ;D

Hatsune Miku?
... How are you creating a moveset for her?

All I've seen her do so far is sing(I think)

Easy! Just make music and dance-related moves, for the most part. And have her use that leek. ;D

A bit like Peach with the music, I imagine.

Except it'll be totally different from Peach. :P

Make her yell like in "Love is War" and blow everyone off the screen.
LOL

If only I could play music during that. ;D

A verse could be a voice file or something! Do you think that would work?

I don't think any of Ness' voice clips are long enough. :/

If you really really want it, you could have like 5 voice clips play in a sequence.

That could work. I'd need to first find the song Love is War and then get in touch with MandoWolfe or someone else.

... That does make sense...

Whether or not it makes sense she's getting made. ;D

When She Do Her Final Smash She Can Get Her Wings Like In This Video:

Hatsune miku live concert 2011 - tokyo.MP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJBCE8VbOPk#ws)

Look From 1:02:43 - 1:03:33.

Wow. :P I know Miku's attractive and all, but holy crap I never expected so many people to show up to "her" concert. :o That just shocks me.

And Miku with wings? I can't really picture that, even after watching. D:

And right now I'm stuck with a problem in Tabuu.

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=50112.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=50112.0)

You Are The One Who Make The Psa So You Decided.

AWESOME! Tabuu's Neutral Special on the ground is now fixed! I did most of this myself, except credit to A Bloody Canadian and Royal_Blade for telling me to loop the animation using the flag.

The wind up is now slower, so the opponent can brace themselves for the looping attack the player can keep using at a whim.

The looping animation is longer and more detailed.

Of course, he starts in the neutral position:

He now points straight ahead to surprise airborne opponents....

But don't think you can save yourself by going near him...

Any blind spots the attack once had are now either gone or temporary...

And whenever you release B, the move stops. I finally gor my desired effect, and fixed the placement of the graphic effect, too. Now to work on another hitbox for slightly longer reach, without breaking the attack, of course. ;D

And don't worry, I'll be back to work on Miku as well.

Awesome! once the reach is extended, I'd get Tabuu just for that! ;D

Heh, glad the move interests you. ;D

Anywhooooo... later I'll re-do the Side B Air, IDK why, but it keeps crashing BB.

It should dip down a little more, then get longer distance, then rise up again to original trajectory. The current version is really awkward to hit people with. :P lol

You mean, his arm should go down lower than it currently is?

like, his whole body should dip down like the Boss version, but not quite as deep. that way it can sweep nearby grounded enemies.

Oh, okay! You mean, his body closer to the ground like the current version!

Yeah. Just like SSE Tabuu. ;D

I can do that. ;D

And now I'm trying to add more graphic effects to his file. (like for his ground Down B and his sword attacks)

Item animations are next. ;D

Sword? is that the same object he uses for Side B air?

*nods*

Now I just gotta find the effect ID to use it, that's all. ;D

If I could only look inside his actual file...

Maybe you can if you fiddle with it a little.

Okay, so here are my findings while playing around with Tabuu's effects file:

-The sword slashes and yellow sparks for his chain are nowhere to be found. :oshi: . So I'm thinking they're either in ef_common.pac or somewhere else.

Anyway, I'm going to keep poking around and doing some move polishing.

Hey Tabuu Forte Akugun, when searching for these effects what is it that you're exactly are you looking for? The texture, what actually makes up the file, etc? (if that makes sense)

Just curious.

No, the actual ID of the effect he uses when he swoops down the stage with his sword.

Oh, ok. I'm guessing that's the EFLS and REFF/REFT related stuff.

Yeah, and the odd thing is that it's not listed there. At all.

Maybe try looking in fighter.pac? :/ I mean you don't control them in brawl but they still fight so...
Or the file that has all the effects for normal stuff.

Hm...well, I did some digging through the ef_common.pac and I think I've found a couple of things that might be of some use to you.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/wvydk2.jpg)

These are the yellow sparks you're talking about, right? If so, they seem to resemble the pct_cmn_flash REFT entries, particularly pct_cmn_flashE. The original flashE texture resembles a gray star, but after stretching it out and giving it some color it began to look like a replica of the spark effects. Below is an example of what I'm talking about.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/6zbq0m.png)

The other colored spark effects (light bluish/purple color...?) that look similar to the yellow ones probably use the other relative pct_cmn_flash entries so I'd recommend looking at those too. Also, referring to the second pic, I believe that the base of that large yellow slash is pct_cmn_flashF.

I'm definitely not a REFT expert, so hopefully I explained all that cleary. :P

Ef_common is file ID 0 in PSA, correct?

Anyway, I'll do a little digging myself. And I'll post my own Tabuu snapshots myself.

And I also have a glitch to fix that I found in his NB.

Yeah, I believe so.

I just wish I knew where to find those sparks in either Tabuu's file or ef_common. :P Without having to cycle through them 1 by 1. :P

It's a tedious process, but I'm sure that it will be worthwhile in the long run.

Oh, and if you don't mind answering, I have another question related to PSA GFX and whatnot.

Ask away, Forte! :happy:

Okay, I feel like I'm getting close here. I'm trying out every graphic with the word "flash" in it.

flashE? :O

As for the question: I'm trying to identify what is causing an effect to be activated in a certain PSA, but have no idea where to begin looking. To specify, the effect is activated by the character's Dtaunt. Currently I'm looking in MoveDef_FitCaptain > Sections > data > SubActions Scripts > AppealLwR (Captain Falcon's Dtaunt). Is this the right place to be looking?

I think so, yes. If it has a graphic effect command or a variable in it, yes.

Yep, It does. Alright last question, I promise. r)
For now.... X) nah, but seriously
Where exactly is an effects ID displayed in BBox?

Click Modify after selecting the effect command, and go to Graphic, then Value1 and Value2. I'll take snaps for you if you don't get it.

I a bit lost, so yeah, snaps would be nice.

The effect command:

The Values. 1 = File ID 2 = Graphic ID.


Forgive me if you still don't understand. I'm a real sucky teacher.

Your not a sucky teacher...that cleared up everything! I've always wondered what the right window was for in BBox, now I know. xD

Really though, thanks for all the help you've given Tabuu. I'll be sure to collab/credit you for a small upcoming project I have in mind. 

All right then, thanks. ;D

Okay, so I fixed the glitch I mentioned earlier in Tabuu's NB. It was caused by the loop in my code finishing too late for the animation to re-loop. It's 100% working now. ;D

And I'm working on adding a hitbox to the up-aerial that will send folks flying. That and cycling through all of Tabuu's effects (his sparks were not in ef_common.pac)

Cool, looking forward to it :)

Vote, everyone! I need ideas for Tabuu's Up Throw. I have two already up there:

1. He takes out his chain, twirls it around a few times and finally throws the opponent
2. A simple throw where he just tosses upward with his hand.

And I also accept suggestions!

I'd stick with the chains for now, since a simple up throw just doesn't seem like Tabuu.

As for the suggestions, if anything comes to mind I'll post it.

All right, thanks for the 2 votes (the third one is me, lol)

Also have news: Tabuu will stay without a metal texture. I would gladly include one, but it consistently screws up his model and textures. D: Which is too bad, considering he looks badass in metal form.

So so far, chain it is. ;D

i vote for hand xD he also has some big hands to smack oponentes with

Oh, okay, you mean a slap just like his F-Air and DSmash. ;D Cool. I  might consider that as well.

But chain is still winning. :D

And now, I will begin to animate his new F Throw.

That sucks about the metal texture. I'm sure people can live without it; the hack itself is pretty epic.

Also, a suggestion just came to my mind.

I like this. A lot. I might actually consider it, using his fireball at the end of Bullet Rain. ;D

EDIT: Okay, so I've hit a snag here. The filesize of Tabuu's moveset file randomly hit 518KB, so I had to reduce the quality of one of the textures from his effect file. Trouble is, I'd like to avoid that if at all possible. So I took that texture and indexed it in gimp, giving it a filesize of 25 KB rather than 52KB, which is smaller than the shrunken texture I had made, with no quality (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446). Trouble is, BrawlBox doesn't want to import it without corrupting it. Can anyone help me? Here's the texture, this SOB has given me so much trouble since I first started hacking Tabuu's effect file:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/eff_enem_MI_taboo_jin01b.png)

Is this the reduced texture o.0?

Also if BB doesnt load maybe its because need to be 512,256,128 or sometimes,mostly 64

try also with the texture a bit pixelated "some"times the texture looks as it should even its low size but not too low size like lower 64

EDIT:Let me check tabuu normal REFT to test something ;D

No, this is the regular texture, but indexed so the filesize could be reduced. This texture was the reason the PAC was so big. But now I can't inject it back into the REFTs.

how´s the corruption it freezes it increments filesize more or it just dont open in BB/PSA

I mean it shows up like this when inserted:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/eff_enem_MI_taboo_jin01corrupt.png)

i tried it with the newest BB and i replaced the tabuu reft(boss) and i get no problem let me send you the texture resized maybe its just the texture ;D

But won't that make the filesize just shoot up?

Hm...maybe it has something to do with the fact that the image is indexed?

Try using image > mode > greyscale. The filesize ends up as 30 KB...just 5 KB more than the indexed.

Try it if it doesnt work we can find another way, or maybe BJ can help us ;D (http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/anivernage/eff_enem_MI_taboo_jin01.png)

I'm not sure, Anivernage, that's exactly what I did before and it reduced the quality in-game. Maybe we SHOULD ask BJ, he's the one who worked with effect files after all.

For me works fine >.>
...its 100% better to ask BJ ;D

I just need to know why indexed files won't work for this, but WILL work for CSPs and crap. :P

Anyway, looks like I'm stuck reducing the quality. :P I'm too shy to ask BJ. XD

Lol, try posting in his thread ;D
so he can fix this for other reff´s in a new BB version

I would gladly post in his thread. Except my browser keeps freezing every time I enter it. :P

Looks like I'll have to ask someone to ask him for me. :P

Anyway, I have school today, and I'm seeing my bro tomorrow, so I won't be able to animate till tomorrow night. :P

You know for the up throw he could stab them with the chain and throw them up and electrocute them <_<

just an idea

also...Reft? What is this thing that you speak of?

I'll think about it.

REFT = a texture used by an effect in the fighter's pac, in this instance, the strange yellow pattern Tabuu unleashes when doing the Off Waves.

I Now You Are Working On Tabuu But I Hope To See New Previews From Miku XD

Yup, I can tell from your sig. ~ XD Miku will be resumed once Tabuu Final Version is out. ;D

Speaking of Tabuu, he's going smoothly right now, I finished the new FAir animation (still the same FAir, just a new animation of it to make the arms not look so [censored]ty) I'm thinking of adding the fireball to his Neutral B ground (when you stop the Bullet Rain). What do you guys think?

And I'm also going to add back the landing lag on his Aerials very soon. ;D

And for those who didn't see what I posted in the WIP PSA thread, here you go. ;D

SpecialAirS:

Up Throw:

well i remnber one trow maybe back trow? was really long and in 4 player matches you could never finish it before being hit by another player glad to see the animation frames on that throw are smaller

Oh, that might have been the front throw, it uses the exact same animation from the boss file. I'm going to give him a new FThrow. But for now, I think I'm going to take a break. I've been working on him non-stop for the past few weeks, and I need a little rest. I may still animate during this time, but don't hold your breath.

EDIT: Okay, so it looks like you guys want Tabuu to throw his fireball at the end of the Neutral Special. So be it. Now I just need to fix one final bug in the move and it'll be 100% finished.

Soooooo......yeeahhh.....

>.>




<.<

Woo! Thanks so much for that, dude. I love you (no homo) and your recolors. :3

So after Tabuu's FINALLY finished (>.>), guess who's going to be back in progress? ;D

No problem! ;D

Were the first one to download it? :>.>:

One question, though? Who the heck is Sabi? I never heard of her. :O

And now I'mma get busy applying this to mah Brawl.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=vocaloid+sabi#/d2bdirm (http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&global=1&q=vocaloid+sabi#/d2bdirm)

She's a fanmade Vocaloid I believe. I had to find someone to make a green recolor.

Okay so here's the basic gist here:

-I'm adding back the landing lag on Tabuu's aerials. It's looking okay so far, and the landing animation for the NAir and UAir will have offensive collisions.

-I'm also starting to re-do his item animations so that they use his left arm instead of his right arm. I'm also going to improve them.

-I'm also on the way to finishing his downed animations.

The finish line is definitely in sight now. I might be able to finish him completely by mid-October, if I can stay focused. ;D

redoing all item animations seem tedious to say the least :S

So, are we going to need to use Riivolution to use Tabuu's new PSA? If so, are there any disadvantages to using it over Gecko?

Sorry if this is an old/already answered question.

Well, I don't think there are any issues to using this new PSA file. After all, I haven't had any complaints of the Filler version freezing with Gecko.


Oh, it IS  tedious. But it'll be worth it in the end. Just think, Sora had to animate all of those characters themselves. :P

you know with the new bbx we can add model changers and tabuu is really in the need of those so you can spare loads of filesize not having to recize all those bones weapons wings in every animation

I don't know how to add model changers. :P I fail to undersrand the tutorial. :P

just stopping by to ask how long you have been working on tabuu for now, and why the hell it isnt finished yet?
xDD

I've been working on him for the past 2 years now, and mainly because of lack of focus. XD I'm being a lazy ass. XD

But that should be changing this weekend. I wanna have him out before the Wii U comes out because I might lose the Wii.

well its easy but after you do that you wont be able to use psa again but only bb psa and im not sure how it handles ganon well if the motion still works for you keep that going its an idea for emergency in case of filesize problems

Oh, I see. Well I stopped using regular PSA for Tabuu anyway, since I added some new stuff in BB, the file will no longer open in PSA.

And yeah, this weekend's gonna be pretty slow. I've got a little homework to do, but after that it's back to Tabuu. :3

Working on Tabuu before homework is done is forbidden!! :rage:
Also if you catch the pun here then you win a cookie :/

Honestly can't wait to see this finished >_> I think I'm gonna wait till it's like 100% finished before I give it a try though, so I could make a decent video.

Lol yeah, I get the pun. ;3

All I need to do is draw the Roman Co(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/143/193/cad-20080602-358b1.jpg?1309710446)eum and write something about iit anyway, I don't see it taking too long.

So why would you lose your Wii when the WiiU comes out? Hopefully you don't mean you'd trade it in. Wouldn't you have to stop using brawl hacks then?

Okay, so I've hit a new problem: I've somehow managed to break Tabuu's Up Specials... I don't know why, but now for some reason, he stays stuck in midair in the last frame of the animations until you either KO yourself or get hit. Now you're probably wondering: how can you K.O. yourself? Well, this is another strange thing about this glitch: you can steer yourself somewhat in midair to kill yourself.

And I have another bug as well, with the Ground Neutral B fireball. When you release B right after the attack starts, only the Offensive Collisions code works. The sounds don't play and the graphic effects don't show up. But release it at almost any other given time, and everything is fine... Wow, now I'm starting to wonder if my file got corrupted. I hope not, I don't want to re-start the PSA over again. D:

I also need someone to teach me how Terminate Graphic Effect works, since nothing is defined in it. :/

Sigh... Well I've done it. I've killed Tabuu. The file won't work at all now. :'/ Help please?

I've run into a similar problem with SM64 Moveset v5.0's Up B, Mario would like keep fryig upwards until he went out of bounds, I haven't been able to fix it. You can always star with an older version's PSA, although there's probably tons of thing you'd have to redo.

Okay... so I'm going to fall back to my latest backup and just copy my code. Let's hope this works. :P

Indeed. That would probably be the biggest let down for you. All the hard work shall not go to waste.

Okay, so status: It was a fairly recent backup so I don't have much to re-do except the fireball attack. So I'll get back to work on that ASAP.

Anyways, I'll have previews when I get it working again. :3

Awesome ;D I'm sure you had a marvelous sigh of relief. lol

lol you better believe it. ;D

Anyhoo, I'll be sure to back up my file a lot more often now to prevent something like this from happening again. So I got the effects working. Now to move on to sounds, then hitboxes. ;D

Best of luck to ya. :P

*disappears into the darkness*

Great to see Tabuu's back up!
If you don't mind me asking, what's the progress on him?

He's almost done, Rain. Two more attacks left to program and animate, and less than 50 animations to make, and two little bugs to fix and he's done.

Anyway, previews coming soon. ;D I just gotta convert and upload them.

:o Epic!

Ani, thank goodness. Maybe you can help me. ;D

And previews:

Note: The first hitbox doesn't work yet, and I have yet to figure out the right combination of flags. And ignore the Bullet Rain effect. I don't know how to use Terminate Graphic effect yet, but I WILL test something. ^^;

He's still over Ganondorf, right?(Didn't re-check the OP)
If so, awesome, I need a good Ganondorf PSA.
Great job so far.

Yep, he is still over 'Dorf. And I wouldn't call Tabuu "good" yet, he's still a bit glitchy. For now you should try the Filler version and see what you think and maybe post feedback.

Anyways, what do you think of the previews?

I came here for Miku......  :>.>:  But for Tabuu......looking forward to him.  :happy:

Haha, don't you worry. Miku will be back on track once Tabuu's out. ;D

And okay, these flags are driving me crazy. I'll just copy them from another move. :>.>:

As I said great job so far. ;)
I tried him once before, so I'll wait for the final version.

Sweet, thanks. ;D

And my test for removing the bullets failed. Looks like I'll need to look up that dreaded Terminate Graphic Effect command. :P

And now to fix that first hitbox and modify the second one.

Looking at the moveset in the OP, I just got so much hype for this.
If there's any importing, CSPs, or simple texture-work you need, I'd love to help. :D

Thanks, but I don't need any importing or texture stuff. There, he's pretty much complete. ;D

Okay, so I've gotten back into animating him. I'm currently making him a new FThrow and revamping his Win animations. Since my goal is to re-create the authentic Boss Battles/SSE experience within the limits of PSA, I'm even implementing more CLR0s and stuff from EnmTabooBrres. Win2 is also crying for attention, so I'll do that too later.

Since Anivernage and I are implementing the fireball to his Neutral Special, he's going to need a new DAir. And I already have an idea for that, and I'll animate it later. Right now, I'm going to work on item stuff and the new FThrow. :af2:

He'll be finished before the year is up, that is a promise. ;D

Awesome!! cant wait ;D

The new DAir is going to be a showy sword swing. ;D And I wish I could figure out how to give him his sword trail, but I can't find it in his file. It would make his sword attacks so much more epic. ;D

And the FThrow is an edited version of his actual catch attack in SSE/ Boss Battles, but not as laggy, long or powerful.


Thanks! ;D Now I just need your epic edit to his Neutral Special. I still can't figure it out. :P

That's great to hear! I'll have to start thinking about where I can make room for Tabuu to fit in, ha.

Well, as long as your Ganondorf slots are all empty, you should be fine. ;D

And now back to animating. I'm almost done his PassiveXX animations, I just have to finish the PassiveWall, and make the PassiveWallJump. I also need the motivation to make the item stuff. :P

Any Preview Of Miku ?

So yeah, now Tabuu's PSA won't work at all. Either in-game or in BrawlBox. It silent freezes in-game and crashes BrawlBox. So now I'm faced with a tough decision: I can either quit Brawl hacking or start all over again on the PSA file. :( And frankly, I don't want to start all over again. I lost all my hard work on the moveset and I'm not feeling up to re-doing it. After taking so long to make the damn project I don't want to keep you waiting any longer. And honestly, with the Wii U coming out, I'm not really motivated anymore.

So yeah, I'm going to take my leave. If anyone wants to take on my incomplete projects, and even improve them (!), PM me and we'll discuss it.

that cuz brawlbox is only for edit floating points/PSA article/lower the filesize of the PSA file
atleast for me since its so buggy and do random freezes then making PSAs
PSA anything but edit floating points/PSA article the old method
save the Fit(char).pac as a backup you edited in tabuu(the programm) and smash attack
and edit the other Fit(char).pac in brawlbox with floating points/PSA article

But I haven't had any problems whatsoever until today, Mariodk. Even just today I was redoing Tabuu's DAir and everything worked A-1.

So yeah, I'm.... distressed right now.

So yeah, as I said, if anyone is interested in continuing my extensive list of PSAs, feel free to ask me about them, and I'll gladly hand over the reins to you.

 Aw man. Sucks you might leave. :oshi: I was looking forward to the Miku PSA. >.<

That's terrible! :oshi: I hope all goes well for you. And MarioDK has tons of experience, so i'd definately trust his judgement.

I would do a sarcastic post about how much i ahte you

but then i would feel bad

cuz i dont want you to leave

↑↑↑ I think that goes for all of us. :/

Thanks guys... I WILL continue my more obscure projects no one might be interested in, like Beast and King Cold, but all my major, more well known ones will go to other PSAers.

For now, for example, I have Miku, which I have gladly handed over to my friend SonicBrawler, who will do her justice. :D I trust him with my life.

('-')7

Aw, nooooo
Don't leave, buddy!
Are you sure you don't have any backups or anything you can do for Tabuu? :<

Yes I'm sure, Rain. My backup got corrupted too, I tried to open it in BrawlBox and it hangs and shuts down...

My hope of getting rid of Ness is still alive. :happy:

^ That and an epic model/rig/leek. ;D

ur leaving?
and u havent finished tabuu yet?

Okay. Hi everyone. My apologies for necroposting, but with Tabuu finally out and finished, I thought I'd revive this thread and assure everyone that I'm no longer quitting, nor will Tabuu be my last PSA.

Check OP for plans, and plus I'll leave you with this, since I was completely ignored in the WIP PSA thread...

It's cold in here. :srs:

That metal...either it's me or it looks different than Brawl's.

Yeah, it's the Melee metal texture hack. Okay, now back to work. I'll update this post later with more stuff.

And also, would anyone like to be King Cold's beta tester? I mean, it's fine that I can test him, but I love the character and may be biased. I want to make sure... he's good and balanced, you know?

EDIT: Okay, so I have very slight updates for both Cold and Naz.

King Cold's ladder animations are pretty much done (oh, btw, you can expect better quality animations from me for King Cold, since I've learned a lot since I started), and Nazrin now has Metal textures and recolors that I whipped up myself.

I'll showcase this later.

But for the moment, I want your opinion on something.

I did my first, real texture hack recently over Cold, and I want to know if A) you like it and B) should it be one of his "official" costumes or an extra?

So...

Brawl Hacks Special: The Master of Subspace... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXFjQ0sYwjo#)

I made a video showing the Tabuu PSA. I hope it's alright.

I really like it! :D Good thing I included the codes, huh?

What needs polishing? I can always update the download.

 Dang Tabuu, that's impressive; i remember this project from way back in the day "when hex was new to most of us" and when clare had the Sword crotch problem

that's amazing, this inspires me to get back to work on Clare, i just need to get more ram to finish the model =/

i congratulate you Tabuu on a job very well done.

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it. ;D And yeah, Clare was awesome, I was wondering what happened to her. ;D My Diddy slot is still open if you decide to continue her.

Anywhoo...

Have some Ladders and Recolors!

Cold Ladder anims:

Nazrin metals and recolors:

how strange, nazrin looks too poly.. are you sure you didnt do anything to the shader I set to the default naz?

Well, some of the GFX seem to stay with Tabuu. Mainly the down B. It stays on his head for a bit.

Feels like some move's hit boxes are a little unreliable. Or even don't have enough reward for landing. Like up smash... Which honestly feels more like a forward smash. Yes, it has decent range. But it's slow, and you HAVE to hit with the tip of the chain. And if you hit with the first hit. The foe can still get out before the second one hits.

While a tough to land, but high reward move isn't a bad thing. I feel Tabuu might actually have too many like that. Which results in often using only the safe moves. Like forward tilt. Side B. Down B air. the Dash attack. Side B air in some cases. And a few others.

However, down smash, up smash, some of his aerials, and a few others are very VERY hard to hit with. The up and down smash because the foe can get away from them. Even if the first hit actually got them.

Neutral B ground is pretty deceptive. Since it looks like it's a projectile. However only hits the foe if they're right next to him. Down B ground has a very odd hit box.


This also might just be me. But I would like a trimmed down version at some point. With 4 specials only.

I think the ones that would make decent ground/air specials are... Neutral B air. Side B ground, or air. Down B air. And up B air.


Now then, not all of this is gonna be constructive criticism.

I LOVE the first victory pose I showed in that video. It just has a LOT of impact to it. The sound, the lighting, and him disappearing at the end all seem very nice.

Side tilt seems like an alright move. Since it can still be punished, due to his size.

The sound effects seem well chosen for each move.

The animations for the most part seem pretty nice. There are a few that feel off. But otherwise pretty nice.


And now for an interesting note... Tabuu has a minor DACUS. It doesn't go much further then a running up smash. But the option is indeed there.


Anyway, I might have missed something... But eh, I'm a bit tired. I might be forgetting something. Overall though. I really do see a LOT of potential in this.

Nope, I didn't touch it at all. D: Weird.

And...


Nothing I can do about the Down B GFX, sadly. Even boss Tabuu has that glitch. :(

Okay, so when I feel like it, you're gonna get that trimmed down version. I was just in a hurry to release him.

What the hell is a DACUS? ;O

A DACUS is an advanced technique where you do a sliding up smash. Look it up on Youtube. It's most famous because of Snake.

It's easiest to do on a GC controller.

I swear that wasn't intentional. D: Must make it even harder to use, huh?

Anyway, I'm gonna get back to work. Ciao for now.

Question.what is the ef_Ganon.pac file for?

To put in the PF/effect/fighter folder.

No what I mean is is it for the Psa itself or the other stuff?

Yeah, it's for the PSA. Although using it seems to be optional since it's also located in FitGanon.pac. Brawl has a lot of duplicate files for some reason.

Not at all. It's just another option to use when using up smash.

You can either do a standing version, or slide a bit with DACUS.


Though, it's not NEAR as good as Snake's.

Oh, I see. It's part of the game. That makes more sense.

So would the file do anything if I did use it with the Psa?

It should, but I don't think it makes a difference. I left it there just in case.

WOW, King Cold is next?

who will he be over?

Ganon, like Tabuu. He'll also be Rel portable, though.

as long as he doesnt use articles ;)

I already removed his articles. Next up will be the Special Grabs since he won't use them.

:>.>:

Careful Tabuu. Once Narutofan1 starts posting in a PSA thread, he will never stop asking about progress and release dates. It will get annoying. :srs:

*cough* While I know some people might find it annoying, I'm actually planning to use his pestering to keep my thread alive this time. ;) *koff*

Actually, I want all the feedback and asking that I can get.

I'm loving this Tabuu PSA. Are some of the animations ripped from SSE? Or are you just that damn good? :srs:

Well, a little bit of both. They're edited from SSE animations, using actual keyframes from them. ;)

downloaded tabuu, need more character folders nowww
anyways will u still be working on Gigabowser?
Reason why i ask is because im considering rigging him over Bowser with all the goodies and stuff, to go with Godzilla over bowser
dont know if a psa over bowser will be better than over Yoshi...
unless u think the gigabowser psa will do no good with Godzilla as an alternate costume

Go ahead! I just might switch him anyways, because the Yoshi version has too many problems I can't fix, and over Bowser would make more sense.

mk
sounds good
ill try to make the rig as perfect as possible
but will take time though
because sometimes stuff takes time :D

I understand! It's perfectly fine. ;)

Anyway, no more work for me today. Gonna hit the sack. Be back tomorrow night with maybe some updates. :)

Where do you put the Trophies Folder?

Okay, I cannot try the Final release of Tabuu and not give the creator the praise he so rightfully deserves!
I have been waiting to see this finished for like...so long, and I have to admit i thought that it would never get finished, and I was so surprised when I suddenly saw it was there, final version and all.
Also, the emotional doc file in his zip was really moving, and it just makes me feel happy knowing that my hacked brawl has so much love and effort put into it :D

I do have a few things I'd like to say about him that I feel could be changed slightly to the better.

His double chain whip is quite hard to use, mainly because of I don't really feel it's an "upwards" kinda move, so it is hard to hit with generally, especially since the opponent can get away even after you hit them once.
Maybe increase the hitbox slightly and make it so that if the first hit connects the second one will as well?

The star spray move, or neutral b move is..well, at first I thought he was bugged because I couldn't hit my opponents until I got up in their face even if the spray reached them. How about maybe reducing the damage but give him a large hitbox so that he will hit anyone inside the move area?

Dragon cannon! Omg this move is so flashy! Omg this move is so cheap! I can just jump and use it, jump, use it, jump, use it.. Oh there all my opponents flew out of the screen.
What I would like to see with this move is that it is slowed down to about 3 times the duration, or have a long start-up time and then increase the damage.
Or you could just remove the knockback, but that would really not be fitting to this epic move. Maybe set a timer on it so that you can only use it once every 10 seconds or so to keep anyone from spamming anyone to death.
Even the cpu started spamming everyone off stage several times

(optional)
This is for those that uses Tabuu over someone else than Ganon, like myself, because I have someone over Ganon that cannot be ported, while Tabuu seems to work just as well over anyone else with one exception.
His recovery move will go forward instead.
I remedied this myself by just giving him 3 jumps, using up b as a quick charge attack instead, though the damage and hitbox should be bigger to have it earn rewards.  
Just wondering if his recovery can be fixed to work when he is ported? if not then that is fine, I still love him.

Also, just so you know. I was no fan of Tabuu, until you made me one!

Put the files in: PF/toy/fig.


I don't feel I deserve the praise. But thanks. :)

So far I've only had 2 people have certain problems with Tabuu. I'll fix them later, I promise. ;)

I did? D'awww. ;D

EDIT: New poll. Do you like that Wait1 pose? Or would you like something else? Also, sorry about the legs and hands: the fingers and feet/toes aren't rigged.

i'm trying to fix my character's model. seeing how i got my computer back i'm just trying to fix the model, and provide face textures. i have all thing's necessary for it to work. just need a face map and what not.

and i plan on rigging it in Brawlbox. if you want to help make the psa; well when the time comes you are welcome to it, i'm beyond rusty when it comes to this XD

on another subject. i've noticed alot of Touhou lately. and Naz is from Touhou 12. i'm interested, who's doing the rigging if i may ask. i meant, modeling. just curious =3

woa, that pose looks neat, nazrin doesnt need a very complicated pose, will you make the moveset based on the mugen char? or will you use your own ideas?

@juanito
porque chingados no has hecho a godsila?!"3!""uhfdhadjkcb no ves que soy un godzillalieber de nacimiento?

ha
i know
im a lil a shame of myself
but ill get to it

about tabuu:
man the shaders and materials on dat model rock!
nothing like it...

Yeah, I can definitely try. Although I AM trying to juggle 4 movesets at the same time. XD

And yeah, Naz has been done by Kyouma. I'm just animating/PSAing/switching effects. XD

@Kyouma: A little bit of both. I'm trying to get Zelda's Nayru's Love crystals to work, based on this:


@ Mr. MW: Which model are we talkin' here? o_O

Update: I'm working on removing/replacing Link's articles. I already successfully got rid of Navi and replaced the boomerang with the jewel from Nayru's Love. Now if only I could figure out how to remove the graphic effects from the Side B, and change the N and Down B...

Oh, and I successfully got Nazrin to Air Dodge when you press Z rather than bring out the Clawshot. :)

 so Naz is over link?

and don't worry too much about my moveset, i'm going to get clare's model imported first and what not, seeing how it's "completed" all it needs is textures right now.

i put tabuu on my card to playtest with my friends tommorow, i'll give you a full review on the character afterwards.

Yes she is. ;)

And okay, hopefully I'll get off my lazy butt and actually do something on her tomorrow. XD I slacked off a bit today. XD

And a review? Sweet! ;D Be sure to tell me what to improve for future PSAs (and maybe updates, if I ever decide to make them for him) :)

As for King Cold? I'm going to finish his Dash Attacks and Neutral Special next time I work on him.

no problem, if truly the only thing i've truly ever contributed was reviews. i made some hacks in the past but haven't released any is god forever.

i'll give you my best suggestions. and seeing how this is a "boss" character i'm going to have to keep in mind of the quality of the character's creation and not so much the balance due to size issues and what not.

I look forward to it! ^_^

Anyway, I made a voice pack for Nazrin! That might sound weird, since the Touhou games, to my knowledge, don't feature voice acting. She will be voiced by Rina-chan.

It's my second Sawnd file ever (my first ever being King Cold V2) and I'm proud of it. I made it using one of Rina's voice clip packs she "released" on a MUGEN forum. It's a Young Female pack (sounds a bit like a little girl, which is what Naz kinda looks like, despite her true age). It'll be included in any releases of her PSA.

Anyways, back to work. ;D

it depends of how much effort you put on finding voices; I found a super voice clips pack for touhou characters; I think it was from some fangame out there, but dunno its just useful, Im gonna make a .sawnd pack with marisa's voice for lucas once when I release marisa

Last post of mine deleted. It was irrelevant to my projects. :P

Anyways, I am working currently with Link's articles, to replace them with Zelda's Nayru's Love "crystal" things, for one of Naz's specials and her Final Smash. I've also used a Null effect file from the dummy ef_dr_mario.pac file to give her no effects. but I've encountered freezing on when Link's sword glows would normally show up. So I'm going to delete said sword glows before any further playtesting.

I'm also working on getting rid of the Hookshot, since I won't be needing it. Navi's gone, so the Hookshot SHOULDN'T normally be an issue. So yeah, sorry, but Nazin will be my first non-portable PSA. I hope you'll be able to find it in your hearts to give her a sporting chance, especially Zero users. After all, most of you liked my Tabuu, so yeah.

More snapshots coming later tonight or tomorroiw. :)

Yes although I do like Zero as I think he is the most well made character over link by a long-shot. But, of course I am going to try out your creation, and if I like it, it will replace Zero.  :) Exited to try it out

I'm not asking for Nazrin to replace Zero. Just that you guys try her out when I release a Beta. :) If you don't like her, you don't like her, who am I to force her down your throats? ;)

Anyway, I'm going to study the Zero PSA, specifically for grabs. I successfully removed and deleted the Hookshot, but now she can grab but can't throw... I'll see what Zero does.

well, I hate megamancharacters and link can simply be ported over toon link; so I will definetly test that naz

Okay, so tonight, you're getting a preview of what I'm working on for King Cold's down B: a Counter, based on the one found in the Goku and Waluigi PSAs. When you push Down B, he'll taunt the opponent, and can't flinch for 20 frames.

Problems I've encountered: I can't get him to only execute the counter attack animation only when someone hits him (I'm testing using Subaction 0/Wait1, and it keeps playing the animation even when the opponent doesn't attack him), and I can't make him immune to damage for the duration of those 20 frames. I've even tried resetting his damage using IC-Basic[2], but the game crashes when that line executes in-game. Last thing I tried was using If Compare and a Float variable based on a line of code from Waluigi, but even then it doesn't work properly... Could someone point me in the right direction, or I'll have to think up a new Down B.

I've also tinkered a bit with his Special actions, and managed to get his Neutral Special to the status of 99% complete, and to only be able to execute Down B Air once, because otherwise he would be able to stay in the air indefinitely (the Air Down B cancels out any momentum he has because otherwise there's this weird glitch that makes him shoot upward when using it after jumping)

Okay, and now there's Nazrin. I successfully fixed her grab, but only because it's somehow connected to the Hookshot's head. So I generated it and made it invisible, so now it looks somewhat like a pseudo-normal grab.

Body collision : invincible.

Okie dokie. Two overdue King Cold updates.

i guess it would be kinda cool to have king cold transformations,
but then we would need new models over ganon.
i would volunteer but cant...
lazyness
and i got about 4 projects i want to knock out
:/

I agree, but there are a few issues with this:

1. King Cold, as far as we know, cannot transform, so we'd need to model said transformations from scratch, and there are literally thousands of fan designs to choose from.

2. We'd need model changers, and I can't use those without BB 0.67b, which rebuilds, but corrupts, PSA files.

3. Each transformation would need its own moveset anyway, like with Frieza. He has his own moves depending on which form he's in.

'f only King Cold was a badass as I see him instead of a huge wasted opportunity, huh? Guess tthat's why I'm PSAing him for Smash Bros., huh? XD

No progress for now. I'm FINALLY trying to migrate to BB 0.67b for animating, and it ain't an easy transition. But I'll survive.

And no progress on Nazrin.

oops i was confusing him wit coolers transformations


(http://i.imgur.com/30ccfQD.png)

Hey Tabuu, I might know what you're looking for in regards to the grabbing problem. When I get on my desktop ill send it ASAP.

Yup, that's Cooler all right. But he'd be great over Ganon anyways, with the base form over Fox or Lucario. ;)



Which character are you referring to? Nazrin or King Cold?

Nazrin

Probably should have been specific

There's a grabbing problem with King Cold?

No there isn't with him. I thought there was a possibility you meant his Down B... XD I'm obsessed with fixing that Counter, but those pesky glitches won't go away no matter what...

And so, what's the fix for the grab? If you can't send over the fix yourself, tell me how to do it myself, and if I can't do it, I'll wait.

It's some line of PSA code that for obvious reasons I don't remember.

And I'm having problems with making a counter myself, if I figure something out, I'll be sure to tell you ;)

Thanks a lot. :) For now I'll just focus on his movement and misc animations, I guess.

It's because I saw in the Waluigi PSA that the counter activates when the PSA detects when damage increased, and then resets it. I can't seem to replicate that.

Which Waluigi PSA?

Might be able to make something out of it.

The one over Pit has a Counter Down B.

And now back to my pissed message at Sierra Mist for not coming to Canada. :P

I just reread your post regarding King Colds counter... I have the Same exact problem... Maybe we'll figure something out...

I have an idea how to reset the damage, but the Counter won't stop executing even when the opponent doesn't hit him.

The way that I had tried to set it up was having an extremely small hitbox placed at the center of the model and placed an "If Hitbox connects" statement and had it link up to the counter animation. But instead it goes straight to the counter animation.

See, I always thought "If Hitbox Connects" was for when YOU hit an opponent, not vice versa. Maybe I'm wrong...

I read somewhere that you could try it that way, not sure if I'm right or not.

But if you use the "If Hitbox Connects" that'd mean that the opponent came in contact with the hitbox. But then again, your character model comes before the hitbox does.

Either way, I still have the problem of the counter-attack animation being played instead of the counter-stance animation.

Oh? See my problem is different: It'll play the counter stance, but then immediately followed by the counterattack. As soon as it reaches the Change Subaction code, it executes it no matter what.

For some reason when I try to download this, it says there's a virus in it. Any chance you could re-upload it somewhere without one?

update: I'm not sure what's going on with mediafire, but it seems like they have some files that randomly get hacked. Somehow I tried downloading it again and this time the file was safe.

Hi everyone! ;D

Sorry for not posting in forever, and forgive me if this post breaks the rules, but I had considered leaving KC-MM due to the treatment I got in the SSB4 thread. I didn't know supporting K. Rool like I did was that annoying. XP

First of all, I'm planning a huge revamp and overhaul of my Tabuu PSA in the future. He might even have new attacks, animations and features not seen in the Final Release. I've learned a lot about PSA while making King Cold. I've had complaints that Tabuu's awkward to play and underpowered, and I plan to listen to my followers. <3

Speaking of King Cold, I've made massive progress on him recently. I've done his Neutral Aerial, completed his Nentral and Up Special and Final Smash, and started various other things, mainly his Down and Side Specials. He's really been helpful in teaching me how to make, and experiment with, Specials. I still haven't gotten his Counter to work quite right, but I've started to make the actual counterattack itself, for when I do get it to work. I've even slightly updated his textures, and made some cBliss recolors, for those of you who don't follow me on deviantART. I'm aiming to have a beta out for my birthday (Sept. 10th) Snapshots in spoiler. ;D

looking great also *subs*

Why thank you, Leon!

Anyway, expect more snapshots later this weekend. With more misc stuff and maybe another aerial. ;D

so how is that rig on the cape?

The cape? Well, it's now very easy to work with. For instance, during the Final Smash and Full Power Death Beam, I can animate the cape to simulate wind effects, and it's even affected by gravity! Meanin g when he falls, or is on a stage with wind, the cape moves. I'm quite pleased with this new rig, and I can't wait to release my beta so you can all experience it too. ;D

Not bad.

Would you consider posting some .gifs of a few animations?

Thanks, KJP! ;D Although I must ask, if it's "not bad", what would you improve? :)

EDIT: Ok, so I tried making a test gif with the new BB and reduced the colors, and it reduced the filesize by half. Let's see what it looks like here:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/Wait1_zps98dbeb5c.gif)

So, which animations do you want to see?

Saying "not bad" is a complement. :P Though I couldn't judge without seeing the Animation work itself.

Nice. Though try making his right foot not slide so much. Also try making the loop more seamless.

As many as you would like to show.

Hmmm, I see. Well thanks then. Means a lot. ;D

And I can definitely work on that foot (it's been bothering me for sometime, so yeah. Thanks), but the loop is as good as I can make it. Maybe the gif butchered it, Idk... But I suppose that can be worked on too. I'll take a look.

And ok. I'll whip up his attack animations, since those are the ones that people are most interested in in a PSA

EDIT: Anyway, here's the first move from his Dash Attack combo:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/DashAttack11_zps37500cd3.gif)

what colors did u reduce?for gif purposes
the textures?

No, the colors on the gif itself. That small little gif was over 1 MB in size when BB saved it. So I made it 256 colors for Internet.

Anyway, expect more of those gifs soon.

ah
looks good
brawlbox is win

Thank yah. :3

So yeah. Right now, as per KJP's suggestion, I'm doing some fixes to Cold's idle animation(s). Not only did the right leg/foot slide, but there's huge, noticeable twist/deformation at the start of his tail. That was when I first animated it. That'll be gone as well.

Overall, it seems alright. But it gets a bit shaky at the end.

Does it? O: Well, it IS difficult to make perfectly stable animations. I don't know how SDoom does it in his own PSAs. D:

Actually...

Now that I'm looking at it again...I just find the leg transitioning to be a bit odd.

I will work on that next then. :) Thanks for the feedback.

Now for the next Attack, AttackDash2. The more I look at this one, the more I hate it. I most likely will re-do it.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/DashAttack12_zpsff8a5227.gif)

Strangely, i like it... seems like it needs to move a bit forward during the animation... but it's... original.

Thank you very much. :)

But I'm still going to wait to see what KJP says. I've somewhat improved my idle animation with his help, so I'm kinda curious to see what his opinion is. ;D

The more I see him, the more I feel like I can give him a better rig. .-.

Great animation though. Texture looks really nice too.
It's probably why I can see some of those rigging errors.

need some tail attacks too
just saiyan

Naw, I couldn't impose. I have a bit of trouble with his shoulder pads, though. It's very easy to clip through them with his arms. D: But no, you've done enough. :)


Oh, he's getting some. No worries. :3

Did I not rig them to their own bones? Even if I did decide to rig him it would probably take months to complete. I'm pretty sure I have his .max file somewhere on my External HDD though.

Oh, they're rigged. But it's just that the way that they are is a bit limiting. Plus when I put them high enogh, the cape parts on top of them sink right through. I wish I could show you what I mean, it's hard to explain some of it.

But yeah. I would still rather stick to this rig. It's excellent otherwise. Plus I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of adding his shiny stuff again and etc. D:

Oh ok, now I remember. That's the part I had most trouble with. I think I tried to rig the top part of the cape and the shoulder pads in a way the they move with the shoulders. I know what you're talking about though.

Well if you need me to do some extra work on his model, let me know.
I'll be more than happy to help.

What's that supposed to be? .-.

A flip? A flip-kick? A flip-tail whip?

Either way, it looks quite odd to me. But I can't really give my thoughts, unless I know what it is.

For now, no, there was a slight deformation on the start of his tail, but that was my doing. I had animated/posed it wrong. But for now this will do. ;D If you really want to do more work, it's up to you, but not really necessary.


It's a half-backflip that goes into a double kick, then he falls onto his front and stands back up.

I'm sorry. There was quite a bit I could talk about - and did.  This is a warning of the upcoming wall of text. I added bold colored headers so it's not so monotonous along with a few other things.  There's a bit of redundancy, but I left them in there because I was unsure about whether to keep them in or not.






I'm just all over the place because this is a big post and I'm losing sight of what my initial motive for making the post =p.  I was just going to post a thing or two...but I ended up just making a post about quite bit of animation ideas.  However, I hope you atleast consider my advice and ideas.  Sorry if i sounded rude in some parts, or was too ambiguous.  The key ideas (bolded) should be something you should look into though.

Please don't get discouraged by this post.  If anything, I hope this helps other animators reading the post to become a bit more interested and maybe inspired by animation.  I love animation, but haven't done so in quite some time.  I haven't animated with BrawlBox in over 3 years =p and I know how painful it can be.  Animation is not a simple process. It can be tough and complicated.  But in the end, when you create that amazing and fluid animation that breathes personality and life into your character, it'll be well worth the effort.

I see what you're getting at there, bro. But I should post a new gif of the updated Wait1. D:

But now you've inspired me to take that AttackDash2 and just redo it. It's crap anyways. Thanks for the feedback. ;D

Im sorry, my laptop is messed up and it was about die. So I made the post even though it's unfinished. I'll try to finish the post and edit this one if no one else posts before I finish.

Okay. I look forward to more from you.

Anyway, I'm completely revamping tail animations in my motion file.

I'm sorry. There was quite a bit I could talk about - and did.  This is a warning of the upcoming wall of text. I added bold colored headers so it's not so monotonous along with a few other things.  There's a bit of redundancy, but I left them in there because I was unsure about whether to keep them in or not.

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I'm just all over the place because this is a big post and I'm losing sight of what my initial motive for making the post =p.  I was just going to post a thing or two...but I ended up just making a post about quite bit of animation ideas.  However, I hope you atleast consider my advice and ideas.  Sorry if i sounded rude in some parts, or was too ambiguous.  The key ideas (bolded) should be something you should look into though.  They're not all formal concepts.  I won't lie some of these "key" concepts were just analyzing your animations and were simply there to sum up my thoughts on that point.

Please don't get discouraged by this post.  If anything, I hope this helps other animators reading the post to become a bit more interested and maybe inspired by animation.  I love animation, but haven't done so in quite some time.  I haven't animated with BrawlBox in over 3 years =p and I know how painful it can be.  Animation is not a simple process. It can be tough and complicated.  But in the end, when you create that amazing and fluid animation that breathes personality and life into your character, it'll be well worth the effort.

Wow, you weren't lying when you said this would be a wall of text, haha. ;D

Anyway, I'm going to post my redo of the Wait animation, as well as my wait 2 and 3 and the last dash attack soon, for input. :)

And now I shall re-do counter attack 2 and dash attack 2 with your ideas in mind.

Also, I just got done animating Tabuu. I'm exploring lots of new animation territory with King Cold. :)

Stay tuned to this post for new animation gifs. <3

EDIT Here we go.

Edited Wait1:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/Wait1_zpse6b93912.gif)

Wait2 (Another one on my Re-do list. It sucks more and more when I look at it. D:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/Wait2_zpsa2754796.gif)

AttackDash13, or the last hit of his Dash Attack combo, the Skull Basher.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/DashAttack13_zps5e0c7da4.gif)

Wait3:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/Wait3_zpsa10eb352.gif)

Forward Smash:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/ForwardSmash3_zpsd19ba9ee.gif)

Wait3 looks more like a taunt...

I was gonna make it his side taunt, but I have something else there. D: And in DBZ BT3, if you leave Cold idle for a while, he'll do that same exact animation.

I made this post before you added more animations..It takes me a little while to make posts because I'm trying to improve my writing skills. So I avoid typing shortcuts for words and re-read what I type for mistakes and clarity.

Yeah, again I apologize for it, but I hope you got some good ideas out of it.  Based on the "exploring animation territory", it sounds like you did =p. Anyways, the new animations look a lot better.

The tail animation on Wait1 looks a lot better.  I can still see that overall looping problem which messes with the tail animation. Hmm, right before loop ends, the tail is sorta curled. Try to build off that flow in order to create the start and end  of the tail loop.  Of course, the problem is at the beginning of the loop too, so you'll have to touch it up a little bit.  

The Wait2 animation looks like he's trying to do "that pose".  I got a question.  Is the camera viewing the side of King Cold?  So basically, he's turning to face the side (in game) to do that pose?  What if you kept him in the Wait1 orientation and did that pose without the turn?  In-game, it might be easier for the player to view it from the the Wait1 orientation without taking away from what you were trying to express. Plus that removes the need to re-orient his whole body like you had to.

AttackDash13 looks real nice.  It's good enough that the small issues would barely be noticed in game.  Personally this is my favorite of the 3 animations.

When he tenses up to do the elbow hit, try also to do the "negative" with the the front leg. Almost like the front elbow and leg are in sync, make it so the leg quickly moves forward and nearly stops abruptly (with a little recoil of course).  Also think about that backflip video I posted.  In this case, during the load up, extend his whole body, legs included, more vertically (not exactly vertical).

 This is a bit more of a polish criticism, but try to "leave the right arm behind" when he explodes into the hit.  During the loadup, look at where  his right arm is. Try to anchor that fist in the air, for the most part, around that area.  This goes back to the inertia idea and the snake-like chain reaction delay.  

Yeah, the new territory comment basically means I'm trying new things, animations and poses I never even tried with Tabuu. If you take a look at my Tabuu PSA, lots of the animations are rather dull, stiff and basic. That's one of the things I'll attend to in my future revamp. With King Cold, I'm trying new things and basically trying to create higher-quality animations.

With Wait2, no, that's not the side. That's the front, slightly angled.

Anyway, I'm glad you like AttackDash13 for Cold. It's one of my fave animations as well and I'm proud of it. :) It took a while to do, and I'm happy with the results. Although I'm not quite sure what you mean when you say "do the negative with his legs".

Anyway, I'm going to re-do some of his animations now. Ta-ta for now, no more gifs till later. :)

"Do the negative" was a bad statement.  I meant to do the same action, but make the  front elbow and leg more in sync.

Ok, I think I understand: make the leg move at the same time as the arm/elbow?

Yep.

OK, so I've made some changes, and I'll post a gif up later. Right now I'm doing AttackDash12, aka the second dash attack, to be more fluid/realistic.

i think the waits are a little too fast

No worries, they're a little bit slower in game. BBo.68d is so fast it can actually play them faster than Brawl can. XD If they're still too fast, it's nothing a little Frame Speed Modifier can't solver ;)

Anyway, the modification and improvement of AttackDash12 is well underway, and I must say, looking way better than before. :)

That's because if you stay still enough, they all do the taunts that they had in BT2

For some reason they didn't want players having control over when they taunted.

Good animations otherwise.

And I completely agree with your assumption on Wait 2, but you'll do just great.

Exactly, which sucks. Coupled with the tougher, more opportunistic AI in BT3, you leave yourself wide open. :P

And I'm working hard on improving some animations. Tomorrow, expect more gifs. ;D

Revamped Wait2:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/Wait2_zpsd4beb1d9.gif)

Revamped AttackDash12/Second Dash Attack:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/DashAttack12_zps67d95b5c.gif)


Full Power Death Beam: His fully charged N-Special
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/FullPowerDeathBeam_zps5cc7cf50.gif)

Neutral Aerial Special: Aerial Ki Blasts. Can't do a Death Beam in the air.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/SpecialAirN_zps668c795b.gif)

Spinning Kick, his Side Tilt.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/AttackS3S_zpsd38cadea.gif)

Neutral Aerial: Explosive Wave.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/AttackAirN_zps775af2c9.gif)

Heavy Combo, his Side Special. I only have 1 attack made, as mentioned before.
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/King%20Cold%20PSA/HeavyCombo1_zps51d09209.gif)

Also, add this, lol

https://www.facebook.com/TabuuForteAkugun (https://www.facebook.com/TabuuForteAkugun)

EDIT 2: The Counter now works at 95% I have successfully coded it so he attacks you when you hit him, but I can't get the damage to reset. I'll work on that next. But I feel like I just made a major breakthrough here!

welp, I think I better hurry up with your PSA version Nazrin :p

Hey, dude, no rush. It's only a version 1 beta of King Cold. He's nowhere near complete. ;)

Great job on King Cold every move has that Dragonball Z feels like it came directly from the games and anime down to the last detail, I like how your creating original moves for him instead of him using Trunk's sword like the games do.

I agree he came off as an underrated character in the anime, I wonder if he died at full power or was killed before he could have transformed with the anime and manga as is we'll probably never know.

Cold seems to be a lot smarter than Frieza and Cooler I think if Cold had been runing things on Namek instead of Frieza things would have played out differently, I really think he would have wiped out Gohan and the others before Goku got there.

well, this PSA fits well with Mima as I see o3o
(remember me to make final Mima on this weekend)

The GFX effects are great, but you still need to do some more Animation work (although I'm one to talk).

You should have also done a few more attacks before releasing your demo.

Heh, thanks! I liked this comment. XD And yeah, making up moves shows more creativity, no?

Probably not at full power. After all, Trunks was rough and Frieza himself didn't even power up. But he's a [censored]y dumbass at times, but Cold would have if given the chance I think.


Who TF is Mima? XD

And...


What kind of animation work. Please specify, it'll help me improve them. ;)

Yeah, I had a feeling about the attacks thing. D: The next beta will have more to offer, including complete DownB/SideB combos , perhaps better Neutral B Ground animations and the AAA combo, and more item attacks. Thanks, KJP. :)

It's possibly just me, but some of the animations seem somewhat clunky and unpolished.

Hmmmmm, as I said, which ones? I want to improve them, of course, but I need ta know which ones. ;D

To me...

Jumping, Dashing, Falling, Landing, Spot Dodge (the tail mainly), Rebound, Side Tilt, Side Smash, Final Smash, Grabbing, Throwing, and Swimming.

Well, that's quite a few. D: Makes me question my standards for quality. :( Oh well, I suppose I'll work on those when I'm done the attack animation I'm working on ATM.

Well Kingjiggly seems to have higher standers than me he said some moves were clunky but I think he needs to be a little bit because he's powerful and bulky like Broly he's not going to be as flexible or precise as Goku, I can see the tail problems in some animations and the rebound but beyond that I don't see any problems with the other animations mentioned.

In the games I know how he got trunks sword, Trunks is about to blast a hole in Cold after catching the sword and oh no the heart virus Trunk pulls out the medicine for Goku tries to take some but Cold steals it, stabs Trunks shoots him with 20 death beams and runs off before Goku gets there, comes back with Cooler and then they proceed to get their butts kicked.

(The super secret Cold/Cooler saga.)

OK, so it's mostly the tail. That can be fixed. As I said, I'll get to them soon.

And that was win.

well, that would explain why trunks never used the sword again lol

Okay, guys, I have some good news and some bad news. Let's start with the bad news:

First of all, I am planning my retirement from Brawl hacking. It takes up a lot of my time, time I could be using to try and make money (aka "get off my duff and get a job"), practicing my classical singing, socializing and focusing on school. What brought this on, you may ask? Well, I met the girl I love recently. The problem? She's in the Philippines, so I need to save up a crapload of money to go meet her irl.

Good news is? I'm going to finish King Cold, and possibly Shake King, first. But all my other PSA, or otherwise, projects are being cancelled or "auctioned" off to other hackers. PM me if you want to take over one of my defunct projects.

Thanks, and I apologize.

Wow man. Very noble decision. And I think it's really cool that you'd go the extra mile to meet her.
As for that auction, I don't think I'm nearly skilled enough. even for the older, less complicated ones. But enjoy the life that'll take its shape in your near future ;)

phillipine girls are hot :srs:

anyways did u ever start a gigabowser PSA ?
im interested in that
also in king cold of course

Thanks, I really appreciate that. I just gotta convince her father lol, he thinks I'm a fraud. :P


I did start a Giga Bowser, but I cancelled it. With the Midget Giga import and the "Bowser with Giga's Powers" PSA, there's no need for it anymore. :)

Anyways, wish me luck. I'm going in a whole new direction, and I'm kinda scared.

Just be sure you know who she is in real life people can say or be anything they want online.

But since your made the decision to go meet her I guessing you known her beyond a faceless chat room. I only bring this up because you hear about bad things happening on the news sometimes.

I'd advise you ask to you parents before you go meet her, even if you know they'll be against this its important to hear what they think they've been around longer than you and can see the world in a way you can't.

Another thing after you meet her don't rush into marriage right away live together for a time and see if your love for each other lasts, some people get married fast then after a few months realize too late that their love was more of a crush.

Lastly make sure you have the money to support yourself and her since it sounds like you haven't had a job before make sure you are able to support 2 people also understand your country's and her country's immigration laws since she's in another country you living there or her coming to back to live with you can be difficult and time consuming not to mention financially consuming.

Well that's it sorry I'm sounding negative on this but when ones in love they're heart sees the good, but the heart can blind then to the bad I hope this info helps you in some way and good luck.

Yeah, I've seen her face and saw her real name. And I don't plan to go right away, I have money to save first. But yeah, thanks for that advice. Maybe I should tell them.

And don't worry, I have no intention of marrying her right away. It could take years till that happens, if it does at all. And I'm not moving there. Not right away, at least. I have a lot of work to do before moving to a foreign country. I have things to learn, work to do, and lots more.

But thank you for this. It's nice to see people care about my well-being. :)

I know why do you want to retire, you think you wont have time for these things because youre planning new activities, but hey, I wouldnt say you have to quit, theres always time for things if you want to do them; just like me, I wanted to quit from brawl hacking as I started the college because im not able to do anything until weekends, maybe its similar to you; but its up to you, you probably need a break too
im glad to see you will actually try to make that relationship come true, not many people do that; I used to have a gf from england who I left for that girl who left me in january, trust me, If I resisted and stayed with the english girl, I would still be with her; so go ahead and do what you have to do to get that girl for real! and dont give up because remember that the future is in our hands, and even if the world wants to turn things against us, we can alawys rise up again and show the world that we are the owners of our own future

Okay.

I gave this a little of thought. I won't retire 100%. I always swore when I got into Brawl hacking that I'd never truly retire.

I'll just be a bit less active. I need to get used to a busier lifestyle with less time to myself. So as of now, I have my irl friends I want to visit more often, some outings to plan, some exercise to do and I INSIST that I need to clean my room. lol.

So yeah, thanks Kyou, it's because of your post that I decided to stay. I'm just reducing my activity. For example, the next beta for King Cold would be out till December at the very least.

thats great, Im glad I coult help you ;)

Haha~

So, how's Nazrin coming, btw? ;D

Okay, I'm taking a break from my activities. It's time for some King Cold. :)

good question :o

Okay, I have some progress updates.

I've done very little progress on King Cold. I just have a low motivation to make his miscellaneous animations. I wanna make him attack. D: But if I do that, then I'll end up in development hell like Tabuu after his attacks are all done. D: I'll try my best, but no guarantees. But on the other hand, I want to release the second beta by Christmas, so yeah. I'd better get moving. :P

Finally, I've done a few animations and VIS0s on Hatsune Miku as well. I downloaded and used BlackJax's updated Miku model from Project Diva, and speaking of which, I was finally able to track down a copy of Project Diva F (DAMN that game's hard to find. D:), so now all I need is a PS3 and I can use the game for my own viewing pleasure (lolmikus[censored]inbeautiful) and inspiration for Miku's animations. But I will solely focus on animating her for the time being. I can't PSA her at all without corrupting my FitNess.pac. It's only editable in the Brawl Boxes that support PSA making, so I'd need to use a clean FitNess, but then I have some problems changing some things in Tabuu. DX For instance, when I Tabuu her HaveN indices, the changes don't happen even though I save them. I'll get more serious about Project Miku when Ikarus is released and can support editing Ness.

So yeah, that's all for now.

It sounds like good news, and yet it also sounds like bad news...

Well, in a certain sense, it kinda is bad news. For those who want to play these characters. D: If I could figure out how to use Tabuu (the program) to its fullest potential, I could restart Miku's PSA right away. It's all a matter of switching certain bone indices. I can fix TransN, ThrowN and others, but HaveN and some others, forget it. :P It's like it just won't recognize the changes. D:

Could someone help me with this? And NOT use one of the newer BB's?

I've been having good luck with BB so far, so I could give a hand in using BB if you like (with of course making occasional backups).

You've made Ness PSAs, right? Yosemite Sam, for example? Which PSA did you make him with, because I'm temptet to accept that offer...

I made Yoesmite Sam way before PSA editing was possible with BB. I did make Raptor with BB though.

But BB breaks Ness' Yo-Yo. So if you want Miku to be over Ness, then you'll have to use PSA. :-\

So... that would explain why the Down Smash keeps crashing, even when I remove the PSA code. :/

Ok then. But are you able to use OpenSA/Tabuu program effortlessly? It's all I really need help with.

I have used Tabuu a few times before.

I'll give things a shot tomorrow.

Ok, I'll send you a clean FitNess.pac and you can dl it whenever.

TransN and HipN I can take care of myself. I'll do them before sending it. But what I need are the Yo-Yo on the right hand and items on the left (HaveN switching) and fixing the Final Smash eyes. (I think EyeYellowM is in the wrong spot)

Alright.

I'll also need her Model/Animation files too.

I hope your miku PSA is compatible with other zero sammy imports, I aint gonna use a miku wich isnt the one I imported plus for my teto
(yes my importer ego doesnt let me use many imports which arent mine lol)

Well, it should be. There are no actual bone edits on the model itself. It just makes use of an edited PAC file, so you should be able to use other ZSS imports with this PSA. But the BlinkHalf face will always show up. Otherwise it won't glitch or freeze.

What are the effect files that come with Project Tabuu for?

You put those in PF/effect/fighter. I think it's a duplicate of his effects file for in-game.

More updates:

Miku: I've had some freezing issues with her Down Smash lately, but I later discovered that it was because of the ZSS physics files I had used. I replaced Ness' with it, and every time, the Down Smash Charge would consistently freeze. So I restored them and got the DSmash working again. Next animations on my to-do list are ladder, DSmash, Damage and BAir. I hope to be able to use the leek in interesting ways as well. We'll see how that goes. And for some strange reason, a small part of me is hoping Miku shows up as a hidden guest in SSB4. lol. But King K. Rool is still my #1 most wanted. ;)

King Cold: Well, less news for him for now. But I do hope to get started on his aerials and throws soon.

lol good thing I dont put other faces to my imports

*checks out new SSB4 update, sees Sonic confirmed*

Son of a [censored]! DX My second Smash punching bag returns. :P You disappoint me, Sakurai-san. I was really hoping Miku would be the Sega rep. lol Besides, I really hated Brawl Sonic. XP

Well, just makes me wanna get ahead with Miku even more. :P Speaking of which, I'm currently making her a brand-new Wait2 after hearing KJP saying he hopes my animations are WIP. Once I finish it, I'll post gifs of a couple of Miku's animations. So I'm gonna step up my game a little. Miku deserves it. <3 Here's to hoping there can be 2 Sega reps in SSB for 3DS/Wii U? D:

Meh. Miku was wishful thinking anyway.

You can animate in whatever manner you please.

You gotta remember that my quality standards are higher than most people on this fourm. :P

No, no, it's fine. I wasn't trying to tell people you were a [censored] or anything. Your feedback makes me WANT to improve. :P

another sonic hater, I like it
ironically, I hate sonic and its fandom, but its the characer I am good using in brawl tourneys lol

Wow, I JUST realized I hadn't delivered on those gifs I promised for Miku. D:

Here they are:


There are many more animations done than just those. It's just that the GIF maker is really slow, so I don't always feel like making them. D:

Very nice Miku animations loving the sonic scream.

now i feel I have to make the other vocaloids from da TDA style

great! i always want miku in my brawl but not with zero suit samus moves cause it is weird when miku transform in samus by using final smash

Another progress update:

I've been focusing mostly on King Cold lately, because I want my next beta to be way better than the one I released, which I looked back on and considered rushed and a little on the crappy side. So now I'm making other attacks and animations (I just finished his Dash Grab), and going back and making tail and misc edits to the animations I already made. I've also made quite a few subtle PSA changes since the beta release as well. The next beta will feature way more stuff, features and no attacks that I started and didn't finish. :P King Cold V2 will be much more polished and feel a little less rushed than the first beta. :P I was just too anxious for feedback, I guess.

On that note, I'm trying to get ZSS' Plasma Whip Paralyze effect to work on the Side B hitboxes, but I can't get it to work, the opponents will only get paralyzed for less than a second, giving them enough time to shield/escape the other 3 hits of the combo. D: Can anyone help me here? The attack type is Typeless, with Strong Kick as the SFX.

On the Miku side of things, I've made... 1 animation since the last status update? I took some pictures of my screen while playing Project Diva F, but inspiration to do those poses and animations for her hasn't hit me yet. She has competition from Cold for my attention lol. I don't have a release window for her first beta yet, but all I know is that I won't rush her like I did "Final" Tabuu and King Cold 1.

I'm also in the process of making 2 new BRSTM's which will eat into my PSA time as well. XD

What are these BRSTMs? I can take care of them ;)

Thanks, but they're both taken care of and uploaded. ;) Thanks though! ;D

Now back to work on Cold. I should have more GIFs uploaded this week to showcase what I did and collect feedback. :)

Sounds cool! If only I could become better at animating...

Animating is hard and time-consuming, I'll hand it to ya, I even learned and figured it out on my own, without looking at tuts. XD I go on an experimental basis, meaning I type in values until it looks the way I want. lol

Currently creating the Heavy animations, for when he lifts heavy items. Also finishing up the Superspicy Curry Wait. I want him to look and feel completely different from Ganon. :P

Well... It sure is gonna give another feeling xD
Are you gonna make .rel ports for him?

Unfortunately no. I don't know how to do rel ports. But Tabuu was rel-portable thanks to SonicBrawler and I expect something similar will happen for King Cold since he seems to be a fan of my PSA. ;) Either through his rel pack he's working on or with the Clone Engine lol.

Now I need to do some effects edits for one of his win animations, and I'm wondering how to do that. D:

What does the win look like? I can try to give you ideas...

The Win would normally have him sit on his throne (thin air in this case lol) and swirl a cup of red wine around. Based on when he and Frieza approach their landing on Earth.

Hmm... For the throne... You could use... Hmm... Lemme see... Subspace doors? As for the wine... I don't know...
For the throne idea... I only see 2 solutions :
- use some "dark magic" and use the doors from the subspace emissary
- try to find a stage with something that looks like a throne (a Castlevania Stage, I would say...)

I like the dark magic idea... a Throne made of Ki.... Hmmm, I like it. ;D

For the wine glass, I'll try to find a 2D graphic somewhere.

or you can borrow the throne from this guy
http://youtu.be/JjaubyJZJck (http://youtu.be/JjaubyJZJck)

Hahahaha! I accidentally gave you an idea that I not even imagined xD

I would gladly try this but the stage is all one model. I can't extract just the throne.



Sounds like it suits the King Cold I'm trying to create perfectly. XD

Are you having any trouble thinking up any other moves for Cold/Miku I can try to think up some moves if you'd like?

Love the throne/wine idea, if you end not liking the 2d wine glass because it looks too 2d there are ways to shade/color it to make it look more 3d like, but I have no clue what the glass looks like that your thinking of using.

King Cold has a whole moveset planned already. I'd love to hear your Miku ideas though, even though I have ideas for Miku as well. :)

I just made Cold's Down Throw. He lift his opponent up, and then immediately slams them into the ground with his right elbow. Looks kinda cool, if I may say so. And I think I figured out how to make the Paralyze effect from his Side B work: increasing the Base KB. Also, I made his Final Smash unblockable by the shield, after getting frustrated by Brawl's cheap-ass CPU blocking everything, and  Finally, I fixed some of his graphic effects (namely the Up Taunt and Neutral B, mostly for when he stands on water, they'd get replaced by water GFX)

I haven't worked on Miku, though.

For Miku what moves do already have figured out for vs what's left for her?

Obviously the stuff from the previews (all walk runs) (Forward smash sonic scream) is the left hook part of a punch/slap combo?

Do you have any other moves thought up, up air down b etc.

Miku Moves:

AAA Combo, Tilts, and Smashes. I'd love other ideas for Specials, Final Smash and Aerials. :) And yeah, the punch is from the neutral combo.

My K. Rool PSA, as you know, is being moved to Bowser. Too many complications arose in the DK version. I'll be using Snoopy/AG's model over Bowser, to save myself some headaches in Tabuu/OpenSA. His moveset will be based on the DKC series, and maybe even some moves based on his DK64 battle. What I will need, is for someone with model experience to put a pirate suit on that K. Rool and make a Kaptain K. Rool costume for that model over Bowser. If all else fails, I'll use the Wario version by GBC and Dot and move K. Rool to my main, Wario...

One idea I have not an important animation but I could see her cliff edge stance losing her balance, I could her leaning very far forward her arms circling behind her at very high speed.

Hmmm.... I like it! ;D

Now on to give K. Rool his shiny belly, and then decide what I'm working on next. XD

An idea for a special, this could be an attack or a counter here's the counter version she crosses her arms in front of her kind of in a broken T shape not a X shape, her face looking to the side toward the screen with her eyes closed.

If she's hit during this she screams this stuns the opponent, she then slaps the opponents from left to right really fast (like Goku does to Frieza in the anime when he says I'M GOING TO SLAP SOME SENSE INTO YOU!!!!) two ways I can see her doing this one (she'll be using the same hand the whole time btw) she slaps the opponent's face with the front of her hand back of her hand front again back and forth about 12 times damage on each hit is low, after hit 12 she could either push them back with both hands out while screaming good damage sends them flying straight away from her.

Two same as the first but after the 12th slap she sends them away with a round house slap, she rears back her hand starts low on her right comes up fast hits their face and the opponent goes flying at a medium high curved angle, the rest of Miku's animation continues and she end up facing the background standing still for a second, then starts shaking her hand really fast up and down going ow ow ow, maybe her hand palms red during that whole animation but that would be for effect and it probably more trouble than its worth.

Geez a lot of words for one attack right. ;)

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Oh a third idea for the counter, instead of slapping Miku would use her leek to hit you 12 or so times but if this were used I'd say have her hit the opponent's head from different angles left, right, down, diagonally from the left and right, it would kind of look like she's flailing around randomly hitting the opponent.

Final hit of the combo? 1 The leek could grow really big and she hits them away like it's a baseball bat.

2 the opponent just fall down after the 12th hit and lays on the ground twitch twitch like in anime, funny but not super creative.

3 A 13 hit that hits harder than the others it looks like a swipe/bash on the top of the head (could also be done from the side if you'd prefer) the impact of the hit causes the opponent to take 3 steps back(or the opponent is knocked 3 steps back) either way they are still standing, she'll then throw her leek at them they'll go flying, then she'll catch the leek as it ricochets(bounces off) off of them catches it in both hands, holds it close to her face, tilts her head, and does look cute closed eye thing, that last bit could also be a good taunt.

Geez if you end up liking any of these ideas the hardest parts going to be picking the one that you like the most. :laugh:

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Final Smash I'm sure you've already thought of this one, just pick whatever dance routine of hers you like the most from her many games and youtube videos.

She'll just dance around the stage if anyone runs into her they get damaged, also as she dancing around music notes appear all around the stage and explode causing circular rings of music sound go in all directions causing more damage(kind of like Donkey Kongs final smash).

If you can hit buttons at the right time while she's dancing (like in her games), instead of getting more points you'll unleash more music to do more damage, also maybe you can include a punishment system like you hit it at the wrong time and she stops dancing for a second and does the disappointed face palm and looks down, she can fall down if you mess up the timing too much, after you mess up her dance moves look worse for a few seconds and less music attacks are triggered.

Alternate punishments her FS ends sooner or she takes damage.

Final Smash end, encore/finale a lot music attacks unleashed maybe some of those light beam explosions that happen at the end of rock en roll concerts, then big music wave or explosion knocks her opponents away if they're unlucky enough to be too close.

Kyouma will hate me for this idea because it would involve a module changer and then his Zsamus wouldn't be compatible but here it is, Miku changes into this and just punches her enemies to death.

Not sure how to post the actual picture in the thread and not just a link but oh well.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=zvHYDSKK9qzD2M&tbnid=1j5wgF-vOtrCyM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufunk.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fmiku_tda_doggnchris.jpg&ei=KW9fUui_MMXerQH_o4DgCQ&psig=AFQjCNGa90aIfKfUavwxwa_XNm0a1KbqwQ&ust=1382072489876183 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&docid=zvHYDSKK9qzD2M&tbnid=1j5wgF-vOtrCyM:&ved=0CAUQjBwwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufunk.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2Fmiku_tda_doggnchris.jpg&ei=KW9fUui_MMXerQH_o4DgCQ&psig=AFQjCNGa90aIfKfUavwxwa_XNm0a1KbqwQ&ust=1382072489876183)

But you want the PSA to be about how Miku really is, not youtube what if deathmatchs right? Not to mention this would require a second model of Miku which would have to be rigged and what not.

I'll stop now I'll end up drowning you in my words if I don't. :)

Okay.

I've been doing the preliminary stuff for K. Rool when I realized I don't like the Bowser model too much. Don't get me wrong, the rig is great. But there's too many limitations with the model itself: for example: no blunderbuss, no rigged crown or cape, stomach not fat enough and various other things. I think I'll bring the project back over Donkey Kong. I had almost everything in that PSA, except for the rigged mouth. If only I were able to PSA Dedede, I'd be all set. D: But sadly I can't. And I don't trust the PSA version that CAN edit D3. So DK it is. Sorry to the dude who PM'd me and whom I promised the project would be over Bowser. As good as that rig is, I can't work with that model, nor can I work with the Wario one. So DK it's gonna have to be, unless I can find a way to make it work over Diddy so DK and K. Rool can duke it out.

I also plan to do more King Cold work this weekend. No promises for Miku, however. But I'm not abandoning the project. :)

Kool :) see what i did there? ;D *shot*[color]

Yup I do. XD

And I'm putting K. Rool up in my priorities list. So now, it's in this order: King Cold, Miku and K. Rool. Those are my main 3 atm.

im actually excited for k rool
i also heard someone is working on a gallegon's ship stage with the dk island in the background

Heh, thanks. ;D I'm actually excited to get serious with K. Rool. He should have been in the game to begin with lol.

Haha, awesome! Can't wait for that stage, if the rumors are true. ;D

I had a 3rd thought for Miku's dance routine final smash for the music that would be really cool almost perfect, there would be like 4 different colored music notes red, green, blue, yellow, when you hit the B button it makes the all red notes on screen explode unleashing music shock waves, A button makes green explode, X button blue, Y button yellow.

If you wait to hit the button to activate the music for too the music note will fade away that way you have to use it before you lose it. If you press the wrong button like they're are not red notes on the screen and you press B all notes on the screen regardless of color disappear without exploding, new notes will still appear as long as the FS still has time left before it ends.

Controlling when the notes go off can lead to some nice strategy and have a strong feel of Miku's games. Also the music notes would appear completely at random you could have 4 blue note on screen at one time or one of each color its all luck of the draw.

One strategy if the opponent has higher damage with timing they could be flung from one note to another then after you've scored 3 or 4 hit you just let then fly uncontrollably off the map, and if someone not good at Miku's type of games they will note be able to access the full potential of this FS.

Oh and Good Luck on Cold this weekend I hope everything goes smoothly. :af2:

I've decided to come by and showcase that down throw I made for KC. ;D


Next up is maybe an aerial or two and his FThrow.

And I'm also planning to make K. Rool's first attack after that. I finally got his Cannonball/Spiked Cannonball models to show up properly in-game, so I intend to use them. ;D

And...



That Final Smash sounds like it'll be a [censored] to code. D: But I'm sure I can attempt something...

And thanks.

Yah I was thinking all about how to make it as close to her game as possible with brawl physics, I wasn't thinking about how hard it would be to set up sorry about that.

Did you get a chance to read my what is now basically a novel about Miku FS and counter possibility's?

For the FS would you like me to try and think up maybe a 3rd FS idea.

Um for Miku's forward air I could see her spinning a microphone by the cable over her head like a rope and swining it down causing like 4 damage but has good range, of course then she'd need a microphone, um her leek could work too assuming its there to use, all else fails a forward down slap that makes her do a front flip could work. why a front flip well the animation idea is her slap puts her off balance in the air causing her to spin forward.

Also would you like me to send any more Miku idea's via PM I don't want to be messing up your thread.

I am only looking foward to cold, and still nervous because I havent retouched nazrin for you
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Take your time for Nazrin, bro. Don't rush. I've got a lot of projects to keep me occupied for the time being. ;)

And next up is the Forward Throw for King Cold, and more Misc animations. I want to finish them Misc ones ASAP. Last night I also found a little glitch in his Side B, so I'll get to fixing that as well. I also added the trademark DBZ "hard hit" SFX in his Down Throw.

Did I show any K. Rool snapshots on here, though? I don't believe I did. When I make more anims for him, I will.

Again, no Miku to show.

lol I was going to ask aboit k rool cos I havent seen any picture preview here

You guys will get some K. Rool when I have more to show. Right now all I have is a Wait1 and incomplete Wait2. D: I've been focusing on King Cold lately. I hope to have more updates on the latter this weekend.

Yeah, wanna see some King Cold on fire ! I noticed that you like PSAing "king ranked" characters haha!)

LOL, just a lucky coincidence. XD I also like PSAing underrated badasses lol. XP

Hahahaha! Well, true... Somehow, we share some ways to think...

Still working on King Cold's FThrow. It's one of those animations where I have to be detailed and meticulous. XD Not that I mind, I'm a perfectionist. lol

FThrow Preview (Don't mind the tail, I still have to work on it. :P ) I'm also fixing up other things.


I also have an idea for his Back throw, he simply throws his opponent backward, but afterwards throws a big Ki blast behind him. Like it? If not, I'll think up something else. If all else fails, I'll resort to his Giant Throw from BT3.

Speaking of King Cold, I hope to also complete his Ground Side Special this weekend, with the fourth and final attack in his Heavy Combo as well as perfect "paralysis" hitlag and stuff. The Air version of the Heavy Combo will come later in development, along with the Air version of his Counter. Speaking of the Counter, I still haven't figured out how to revert his damage % to what it was before he got hit. D:

K. Rool update: I haven't done much on him, but I intend to soon. I've mostly been working on his in-game cosmetics/portraits/gfx.

No updates for Miku.

For King Cold's Back throw, how about making him throw the opponent behind him and wipe him with his tail. The blast of Ki would be cool for a down or up throw though...

Sounds ok, but I think I'm starting to like the Giant Throw idea I mentioned in my last post. I'll implement that. And if I do use a ki blast in his Throws, it'll have to be the Up Throw 'cos the down one is already made. And even then, I'm not sure.

I fully finished the FThrow yesterday. That and a damage animation. I'll have snapshots and a GIF of the FThrow later today.

I'm going to get back to work now. Now excuse me, I need some pop. lol

EDIT: Now with an appropriate punching bag. :srs:

Nice previews awesome animations. :af2:

Cold knocking Trunks out reminded me of something not sure why.

In Trunks history Goku had to stop Frieza and Cold I've wondered how that battle would have played out since Goku had a hard time against Frieza on namek how long would the earth battle have lasted, how much damage was done to the planet, one thing I think happened was Goku fought Frieza of course and after watching the fight in shock of the super saiyans power at some point Cold decides to try and wipe out Piccolo and the other Z fighters so the can't interfere with Frieza's fight.

If Cold's full power is the same as 2nd form Frieza he died. If he is much stronger than that form he gets close to defeating them but is stopped and killed by Goku after he defeated and killed Frieza. I could easily see Cold face to face with Goku, Goku gives Cold the same chance he gave Frieza on namek give up your evil ways and never return here and I'll let you leave here alive, Cold accepts and when Goku turns his back Cold tries to kill him when that fails and Goku is coming to toward him out of desperation Cold tries to use Gohan as a human shield giving Goku all the reason he needs and he quickly saves Gohan killing Cold in the process.

Well that's how I think the Cold part of things went down anyway.

Okay, I'm beginning to wonder if I should just close this thread and release my betas when they're ready. D: With a lot of popular Brawl hackers leaving the scene or losing their interest in the hobby, I kinda feel like one day I'll be the only Brawl hacker left with interest, and that nobody will use Brawl hacks anymore. The modding scene is dwindling, it's impossible to deny it. With even BlackJax himself losing interest in Brawl modding, I'd say our community is not doomed, but in a little bit of a pickle. We're slowly but surely seeing our best importers, PSA makers, programmers, etc being picked off like flies, and it saddens me. :'(

I want to start off this bump by saying unless SSB for 3DS/Wii U can be hacked, I will always be a Brawl hacker. I also realize that maybe to get attention on this forum maybe after King Cold, I should try to focus more on more popular or better-known characters. For instance, I've decided to call dibs on a Wii Fit Trainer PSA someday, and starting work on that Tabuu revamp sooner than expected. And Miku, Real Bowser and K. Rool as well. All of my lesser-known character hacks, with the exception of King Cold, Nazrin and Shake King, are going to be put on the ice. But not cancelled. I just won't get to them for a while.

Sorry for the slightly depressing post, but I just wanted to get this off my chest. I'll edit it later with those Up Smash previews for KC that I promised.

It is sad, and part of this is just life going on for everybody growing up and having to get real jobs since this doesn't pay the bills, if only it did though. And I think people will always use Brawl hacks, Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World are really old games but people constantly make hacks for them, and other games like Ocarina of Time and A Link to the Past are popular games to hack as well, and since this game is a fighting game that tons of people have atleast heard of, it'll probably still have a hacking community. Maybe not as big as it used to be, but it'll still have a community. Then again this could be different since those other games didn't have like direct sequels that were basically the same game with larger limits like the SSB series is, but I don't see this community dieing off just yet.

I suppose you're right, but I still feel really sad that this is going on. Pretty soon I might lose all my friends on here and have to hack alongside an all-new generation of hackers, which I'll find tough.

But the toughest thing to think of is that one day... my work (and those of others) will be considered obsolete or useless, or stuff of the sort...

I don't think your stuff will become any of that, you put a lot of work into your Imports/PSA's, also even when a future hackable game one day comes that has better graphics it doesn't mean brawl hacks will fade away far from it, even the oldest games can still remain just as fun as they once were because anything these games may lack in graphics compared to the games of today they make up for in substance and brawl has substance in spades. No other game allows for custom movesets to the level that brawl has, for this reason brawl has become the precursor of what all hacked games should inspire to be like.

Okay, so I started to plan my Wii Fit Trainer PSA, for when I want a break from King Cold, Miku and K. Rool. I took various snapshots of her introduction videos for when I make her animations, and when SSB for Wii U/3DS actually comes out, we'll all have a better understanding of how she works and I'll make the necessary edits.

For now, I'm going to do her Wait poses and cosmetics, and then take snapshots of the former. BTW, she's over Mario. It was either that or replace Luigi, and I'm not going to do the latter on the Year of Luigi, especially when I way prefer Luigi to Mario. (or port her to a fighter with more bones, but I hate pissing around with the bone adder lol) :P My main problem is that she flies up toward the screen during her opponent/s throw animations, and I can't fix it with Tabuu. (K. Rool happens to have the same problem. D: )

Image spam!  :af2:

King Cold images:

K. Rool and Wii Fit Trainer:

- Up smash seems funny xD

- Sexy Kick in teh balls with King Cold!

- Wii Fit Trainer in Brawl sounds... Well... Weird... Buuut, if you make it before Sma4sh, that would be something funny xD
But how do you plan to do her FS?

Ok, so I have no new previews to show ATM, but I'm still working. Right now, on King Cold and K. Rool simultaneously. I'm working on K. Rool's run and walk animations, and some more misc stuff for Cold. Things are going pretty smoothly, with my ton of movies playing in the background. XD I even plan to start K. Rool's actual moveset soon, since playing as him with DK's moveset is a pain in the ass since his moves barely hit. lol

But I might need to "hire" a tester, since the SD slot on my Wii seems to be shot and I refuse to hack my Wii U for the time being. I'm going to keep trying, and I'll get back to you.

Cool news, bro! Don't worry, as long as you're preparing something, it's cool :D


[censored]... If my holidays were soon, I would've tested things for you...

Well, good news. My SD card slot is not broken. I just have to be careful with it. It just acts up every now and then, and I guess now was another time. lol.

I just got back from my doctor's appointment and I made 2 K. Rool animations while waiting. His Down Special and his Wait 2. What's K. Rool's D-Special, you ask? He falls flat on his stomach and enters the Lying action. Yup, he fakes defeat just like in DKC! The keyframes are even based off of poses from actual sprites from the game as well! ;D The Wait 2 has him flexing his left biceps, looking like proud [censored]. ;D It looks okay so far, I might add. I even whipped up a little Sawnd for K. Rool. Egads, DK's voice clips are a pain to replace, they all sound the same and it's hard to tell which one goes where...

I'll have snapshots later this weekend.

wii fit trainer?! woa, over who?

Murrio. XD

And lol, DK's Forward Throw is giving me A LOT of problems. I can't remove all the subaction from PSA for all the stuff he can do with it without the damn game crashing. DX This game absolutely LOVES to crash, I've never seen anything like it. D: Anyone can point me in the right direction for completely overhauling Donkey Kong's FThrow? I'm going to keep testing, but I have a feeling I've got a huge uphill battle ahead of me. :P

Now off to try and test "Heavy" stuff, I have a feeling that will crash too. XP

why wii fit trainer over mario?

For technical reasons. :P Most of the bones fit, and I only had to fix two glitches.

Anyone able to help be with K. Rool's Forward Throw?

im glad mario can be ported over rob

Well it's good to hear that the SD card slot is working btw if it does break I've heard you can use a 2 GB flash drive to play brawl with hacks.

If you use Riivo, you can use any size storage you want. I use an 8 gig flash drive

Hmmm, is that so? Thanks for the tip, guys! ;D

I'm going to resume work on K. Rool shortly. I hope sometime I can figure out how to fix that damned Forward Throw. D: As for the Crate carrying animations, they just T-pose him with no crashing. It's the absolute strangest thing. I can't figure it out to save my ass. I hope I won't have to edit his rel. XP

Awesome :P it'll be pretty cool to play as K. Rool. If you need rel edits, I'm pretty sure SonicBrawler may know sonethin about it, or at least someone else who can help you

This is so true, just look at Super Mario 64 and Super Mario World, they're both over 15 years old, and still have hacks made for them constantly thanks to the improvements to the tools over the years, same with Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask, GoldenEye 007/Perfect Dark and other old classics. They're extremely outdated in terms of graphics and file size, but as people constantly make hacks for them, the tools are constantly upgraded like Skelux and his branch of frauber's Mario64LevelImporter. You can now have 10,000+ faces in a custom SM64 level, original limit being 6,000-something, more music slots than before, scrolling textures which weren't available two years ago, and other edits to tools from other hackers making Super Mario 64 hacking better and better. I've only hacked SM64 for 3 years, Brawl about 2, and other the course of this time both have improved in hacking tools making it better and easier than before, and then it amazes me when I look at older videos and previews of the tools at earlier stages and see how far hacking has come. And Super Mario 64: The Missing Stars is still well known for being the first full SM64 hack ever which was made before we had all the tools that we have now. Infact frauber had to manually modify the coding to place the objects and other things that you can simply do with his level importer and Staraxxon/Vl-Tone's Toad's Tool 64 program, and then Skelux's hack Super Mario Star Road got featured in his local magazine with the headline "Super Mario 64 1.5" and it was just as complete as The Missing Stars but took it to the next level...oh yah and Skelux made Luigi a playable second player for Super Mario 64...something that Shigeru Miyamoto himself wanted in that game's development...see over fifteen years since the game's release, and a simple hacker made something that the creator of Mario wanted to be made to be real. Imagine if the community had died off and no one worked on SM64 hacks anymore, besides a huge decrease of youtube videos, there'd be an amazing hack we'd never have. The same kind of thing will most likely happen with Brawl, especially with Project M possibly making a workable clone engine, there's plenty of room for hacks involving expanding the character selection and popular movesets.
Anyways in short, Brawl hacks aren't going to die off, the community might shrink but there'll still be people who continue to work on these movesets, and as new games come out with (hopefully) new characters, hackers will strive to get them in Brawl, whether with importing the model straight from the game or custom edits to the models, or just recolor the textures, which will keep this community alive. Practically the only game that is better in hacking than Brawl is Super Mario World with it's LunarMagic where you can literally do anything, look at Brutal Mario, you've got Mega Man and Kirby bosses that behave exactly like their original selves, complete with their original sprites and sounds. You can give Mario new moves, make new maps and more. A lot of it isn't as simple as Brawl's but it's isn't as hard as manually modifying the main coding of the rom, there's coding but it's slightly easier.
I hope I sorta inspired you to not give up, or atleast to not worry about your hacks being meanless. They might become outdated, but if they do, they can still be the base of the inspiration of a better version that a future hacker makes.
If it helps any, I still look forward to your hacks, especially K Rool over Donkey Kong because I like the idea of using moves from the Country series. :af:

Thank you so much for this, SMF1. :3 You really cheered me up.

Anyway, have some epic crocodiles. <3


I can't wait to see what you think. ;D

alot of Rig problems on the model like on the first pic with the legs

It was rigged by someone who had a lot of trouble with it, it was originally over D3. I use it because it's the only K. Rool with a rigged crown. D:

I would suggest you to use the DK imported one (I think there is one), ad an extra bone to its head, export .dae, import into 3ds max, detatch the crown, rig it over the extra bone, export it again and done; but Im just talking not suggesting

no matter who rigged it
you or someone else should fix it since this rig is really bad

As much as I would love to do what Kyou suggested, I cannot rig to save my hindquarters. D: I would gladly request a new K. Rool over D3, or even better, a one slot over DK, but every single importer I know does not take requests, or my request gets ignored. For instance, I got extremely lucky with King Cold. If it weren't for DemonBoy (and possibly Ani for the version he almost made), his model (and consequently PSA) would never have been made. D:

EDIT: So... I want some volunteers, please. Who would be willing to rig/import me a new K. Rool with rigged crown, cape and mouth? Preferably over D3.

ah, dont worry about that, just gimme a .max with the model and ill do it next saturday, I mean if you want, because you know I am not in my town during the week, and I dont want to make you wait very long

Hi everyone! ;D

Okay, first of all, King Cold's animation process is going smoothly, still. I'll have new pics up by the end of the week, and hopefully, just hopefully, a second beta late next month. This one will be way better than the first one, I can assure you.

No progress on my other PSAs, however. But when school is out on Dec. 6, I'll get back to work on Miku and WFT.

Speaking of my other PSA's, Kyouma was unable to rig the K. Rool model. This means I'm going to need someone else to improve Randomizer's DDD rig. Any volunteers? Please, I'd love it if K. Rool could have a great, near-perfect rig. Any of the excellent importers still out there willing to take this request? I AM a little put off by the immobile mouth and stray vertices. D: Thanks in advance.

I'd do it if I had more experience. However, I have rigs I still haven't finished yet, along with SAT studying I'll provably have to do >_<

Lol, I completely understand. School is a major pain in the ass. XP

But as promised:

Hmm, I could make the rig better with a custom boneset, because then I wouldn't have to possibly deform him a bit to improve the rotations in animations, did you get a lot of animations done for him or only a few that you wouldn't mind redoing with a new boneset?

Hi guys! ^_^

How's it hangin'? School's out for the semester, and you know what that means? ;D No class till January 20th. ;D And I intend to spend this Xmas holiday hacking my ass off.

So King Cold and Miku will finally get a bit more attention. But for now, until I can get someone to rig a better model over D3, I'm putting K. Rool on hold, and starting another DK PSA of mine that I'll dig out of the dark. And that PSA is...


Inspired by my desire to re-do Tabuu sometime in the future, I decided to tackle another boss character. So yeah, he'll join alongside Miku and King Cold in the development process. However, he won't be as high-priority. I'm sorta working on him on the side. Right now I'm focusing on shine textures and cosmetics.

SMF1, any news on K. Rool?

Anywhoo, that's all the news for now. I'll see ya in a bit. ^_^

Awesome! :D I always like Galleom as a boss

Okay, so progress is a little slow.

I'm helping with Christmas decorating, and to top it off, I lost my external HD. Thank goodness all my Brawl hacking stuff wasn't on it. lol. But all my MP3s and movies are gone. The ones I used to put on while hacking.

But on the positive side, Kyouma sent me his new Nazrin model. I made a few edits to some parts and textures, mainly the face because the pixelated mouth was bugging me a little. So now I have Nazrin with rigged fingers and feet! Much easier to work with. So what does this mean for my other projects? Well, I'm putting Galleom on hold and making Naz a priority. My trio of projects this holiday is intended to be Nazrin, King Cold and Miku, not necessarily in that order. I'm even maybe getting a model with dual dowsing rods, which could allow me to make a dual-weapon wielding PSA! With some melee attacks too, of course!

Yay!!!! Nazrin!!!!!! I'm looking forward to Nazrin the most, Cold 2nd, Miku 3rd, I don't know the other two too well so I can judge them but I'll try them when um if finished.

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YES Nazrin! cant wait for the previes with the new model!

Nazrin you beautiful, delicious youkai. <33 And NO. I'm not a pedo. Naz was confirmed to be >1000 years old. lol

LULZ I was just gonna use that picture to make her FTilt! XD You can read my mind, you handsome bastard! ^_^

Anyway, I don't have previews to show at the moment, but Naz is getting the full treatment like all my PSAs. This means custom animations galore! I'll get back to work asap, as soon as those damned decorations are done getting put up. :P I hate Christmas decorating. :P

But enough about life stuff, I made, like, one anim for Cold and started Nazrin's walk slow. Inspiration isn't hitting me at the moment. I need some Cherry Coke. lol Don't got any yet. D: Anyway, I think I'll instead show the changes I made to the model and textures. And no, Kyou, I didn't erase the shine and the rim. I just disabled them temporarily.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w271/T_C_Rhade/Nazrin/Nazrin-changes_zpsd45a092c.png)

I enlarged the face and hair textures, and made her hands slightly larger, since I noticed they were sizemodded.