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I'm sure all of us Sonic fans from the Genesis era remember Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Get all the Chaos Emeralds and you turn Super, but get all the Super Emeralds and you obtain the form too powerful to ever appear again. Ladies and gentlemen, Hyper Sonic.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl.jpg)

This started out as a small little side project to grab all of the abilities of my favorite Sonic movesets and put them in one. Eventually it became a little more than that, but still held that idea. You should recognize what moves come from where as you use him. Though there are a couple of my own in there too. :3 (Do not fear, credit will be given where credit is due at the very end.)

Let's start with his standard combo.

It starts off with a light electric hit
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl40.jpg)

Then a punch that stuns the enemy to ensure continuous combos (O hai Roy)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl37.jpg)

Then a sweep that keep the enemy on the ground, or if you hit them while edgeguarding, they'll plummet to their doom.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl38.jpg)

Then finally, if you don't hit anything right after, he lauches a very powerful kick to the opponent to send them away.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl39.jpg)

Side attack: Sonic Wind

Basically blows the enemy away with a gust of wind. Can be angled up and down too
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl8.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl5.jpg)
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Low attack: Slide Sweep

This move is no stronger than it was before, but instead can be used rapidly to sweep your opponent across and off the stage.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl41.jpg)

High Attack

This attack now has properties similar to an always sweetspotting Knee. At high percentages, this attack is practically a guaranteed kill, provided you can actually land it.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl43.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl42.jpg)

Dash Attack: Lightning Spin

Sonic spins at his opponent infront of them, shocking them constantly until the final blow sends them flying away.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl36.jpg)

Forward Smash: Chaos Volt

Sonic lets out a large burst of lightning in front of him that spreads a great distance. This is most likely the 2nd or 3rd strongest move he has.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl2.jpg)
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Down Smash

Sonic charges up brightly and violently before he spins in a circle and knocks away all enemies with great force. (Basically it's just a bit stronger now. Much better for killing, but still weaker than the other smashes)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl12.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl9.jpg)

Up Smash: Hyper Somersault (Somebody give this a better name. please? XD)

Sonic performs his attack from Sonic Battle, using an upward somersault kick to launch opponents into the air.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl20.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl21.jpg)

Grab Attack: Hyper Knee

Once you grab an opponent, press the A button as fast as you can and Sonic will constantly knee them much faster than he could before. This racks up a lot of damage quick if they don't get free.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl31.jpg)

Forward Throw

Sonic launches a powerful kick, sending the opponent flying. This is a definite kill throw at high percentages. However, there is one glitch only...It doesn't work against Toon Link. He'll just get damaged as if it were the normal throw. DX
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl33.jpg)

Up Throw

Sonic uses his somersault kick. This is also a kill throw at high percentages.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl30.jpg)

Neutral Air

Sonic rapidly spins in place, landing consecutive hits on anyone near him. Plus, if he lands before the attack is finished, he will let off a small, weak explosion.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl14.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl13.jpg)

Forward and Back Air

Both of these moves now work like autosweetspotting knees. Forward air should be slightly weaker than back.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl15.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl16.jpg)

Up Air

For this one, the first kick should draw the opponent close while the second hit works like FAir and BAir. This move also causes you to float upward and can be exploited as a neat trick to fly back up to the stage when falling down after a jump or UpB.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl17.jpg)

Down Air

Once Sonic hits someone, the force of the blow will bring them falling down to the platform, where then he will knock them away with a small, weak explosion. Also if this move is used on someone already on the ground, they'll shoot upward instead
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl10.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl11.jpg)

Neutral B: Light Speed Attack

This here is my pride and joy for this moveset. X3 I'm not even sure how I got it to work XD

Sonic will rise up, glowing as he spins and say "C'mon!" (At least for me since i have japanese voices. He'll probably say "Cmon! Step it up!" for the rest of you XD;)

Afterwards, he'll home in anyone near him the return back to the center of the stage. However, if there is anyone in his way when he tries to go back to the center, he will constantly attack them again and again until they have been knocked away from his path or away from the center. If used in midair, he goes straight to trying to return to the center, and will do the same thing if anyone is in his way. Also if he falls out of his spinning form before he hits the ground, he'll bound and create an explosion.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl25.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl23.jpg)
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Side B: Hyper Boost

This move is a bit tricky. You have to use ti at the right time. Sonic will dash forward and pierce through anyone in his way. However, if you use it while running, Sonic will stop in place and use it. If you use it just as you dash (start running), then he'll go foward. However, the fastest speed can be obtained when you teleport(dodge) backwards, then quickly hit the attack. He'll go shooting forward across the stage. Careful not to do that too close to the edge of Eldin Bridge.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl22.jpg)

Air Side B: Starlight Flash

Sonic spins in midair for a quick second, then in a flash, disappears as a star takes his place and knocks away anyone near it.
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl18.jpg)

Up B and all dodges: Chaos Control

Sonic will teleport upward, backwards, forwards, or in place depending on which move you use.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl28.jpg)

Down B: Hyper Spin

My second pride and joy. Just to say it ahead of time, I have Phantom Wings to thank for this move. :3

Sonic charges up for his spin dash, shining brighter as he revs up more power, then lets off. While the attack damage is the same, the spin dash is now always fast and even has instant turning. Plus you can move after the end instead of skidding off to your doom. This also means that fi you misfire the dash in midair, you can jump out of it instead of falling to your doom. Finally, when you jump during the dash, the hit will be similar to that of F/BAir
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl29.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl27.jpg)

Up Taunt: Time Stop

Sonic will freeze everyone in time, leaving him free to attack them at his leisure. However, this is VERY short, and you're able to move out of the animation right after using it. Use that to your advantage and land however many attacks you can, if not just one powerful blow.

And last but not last my friends:

The Final Smash: Hyper Sonic Flash

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl45.jpg)

What, you didn't think he was just gonna revert to Super Sonic did you? He's already Hyper, so why go back to Super? XD

Now then, for those of you who played S3&K, do you remember the move Hyper Sonic had that if you double jumped, he would cause the whole screen to flash and destroy everything on the screen?

If so, rejoice or lament, that move is back. Sonic will let out a burst so grand it takes up the entire screen and immediately annihilates everyone. Yes, there is no question that they will be knocked away. (http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/HyperSonicJoinstheBrawl1.jpg)
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Overpowered? Duh, it was the same way in the game. XD Also don't let the T-Stance in the pictures scare you. He leaves it as soon as the move is down, so there's no being stuck in place no matter where you use it.

Phew...that took all morning. x_x

Now then, he has a victory theme, but rather than it being his own, it's more of a personal victory theme I like to use for Sonic. It actually fits well with Hyper Sonic though. If you've played Guilty Gear, you'll recognize it when you hear it.

Also, the fit motion, use that one and that one only with this moveset. If you use any other one, he'll T-Stance whenever he breaks. He won't be frozen, you can move out of it, but he WILL T-Stance. Though Chaos' Sonic 2 Super Sonic stance should work fine since I took his can gave it Super Sonic's floating animation for the standing. I only did that because his Sonic 2 one doesn't slow down when you raise Sonic's speed, and consistently goes fast.

And for the credits.

Phantom Wings: For PSA and inspiring the Hyper Spin from his Super Sonic code.
Sylvo: For the Sonic Boost, teleports, and plus I used his Super Sonic as a base for my editing this time.
Jose Gallardo: For being a badass and making CC Shadow's Air Neutral B which I incorporated into Light Speed Attack.
My pals Ayzer and Chaos: For the Super Sonic runs and also for Air Side B. I used Fire Sonic's as a base for it.
DLoRd333: For Sonic Wind, and a few other moves from his Super Saiyan Sonic.
Droughboi: I got the idea for Sonic's standard combo from his Dark Sonic.
And last but certainly not least, Dchen: For making the original Super Sonic texture which I edited to make Hyper Sonic.

Now then, one last thing I'll say about Hyper Sonic...Do NOT be fooled into thinking he's almighty. While it's true that he can combo and KO like a mofo(_), he actually can die very easily if the attack is pressed on him. He is would have to be tougher than Onslaught Falcon yet not as powerful technically. However, an Level 9 Onslaught Falcon (Which some of you know is VERY tough since he combos like he's from damn Capcom), loses 9/10 times against a Level 9 Hyper Sonic. And that's solely because of how fast Hyper can move, combo and then land the finishing touch. Just warning you now.

That's all folks, have a blast. Everything you need is in the RAR. :3

Edit: Go down lower to download the full pack

Videos

Moveset Videos:

Fool's Gil's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji5h8zc6hoA
S.N.E.S.S.'s video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFChQFe5Dh4

Battle Videos:

Fool's Gil's : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icj-y0k-VnI

S.N.E.S.S.'s :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UUqjt1N4SU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhPjSaTvMvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVIPM2z39vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZqmd5-7ykI

Edit: Changed up the FitMotion more to make him look a bit more angry to fit the Hyper image. :3

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/AngryHyper.jpg)

(01/29): Hey there you guys! With the success of porting Hyper's texture over to Super Sonic, I've made an alternate version of the moveset that lets you fly around as Hyper Sonic for you Final Smash.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_1400binout.jpg)

But don't worry, ol' Wavestah won't let you down. I decided to add in a lil extra just so it wouldn't be the same old Final Smash. :3

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_14002binout.jpg)

Alternate Final Smash: Hyper Sonic Flight

As we all know, Sonic and run at supersonic speeds. Super Sonic and fly at hypersonic speeds. Then what's to say about Hyper Sonic? Most people don't dare to think of it, but the most likely answer would at warp speeds.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_13581binout.jpg)

Hyper Sonic will use the full power of the Ch--Super Emeralds and become invincible and surrounded by stars as we all know, and take flight. However he'll be able to move so fast that it makes everyone else look as if they're moving in slow motion, leaving them open for attack without warning.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_1357binout.jpg)
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_1358binout.jpg)

Just kidding! XD While he does transform faster, once he does, everyone else will be slowed down in time. The other opponents won't be able to move at normal speed until you K.O. them, even if you've already stopped flying. They will be let out of it if you use Time Stop after your flight ends though. In case you feel like giving them some sympathy mercy. :3

Edit: Go down lower to download the full pack

Here's the stuff you need. I went ahead and put the normal textures and the FitMotion in again incase anyone needed it. If you've already to those, then all you need is the moveset (FitSonic.pac) and the Final Smash texture (FitSonicFinal.pac) and you're all set. Have fun! =D

Edit: I got so happy about getting the texture to fit that I forgot to add the animations for Hyper's spines. XD; Redownload the alternate if you need to. :3

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...Over 13 hours straight of fumbling around with Sonic's Fitmotion and testing out the accuracy of the outfits, plus messing with Sonic's Final Smash file have led up to this...Ya'll better be grateful dammit, because I'm seriously grumpy from taking to time to actually make this. XD

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_2127binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_2128binout.jpg)
I'll get straight to the point. I've made a Hyper Sonic FitMotion to go with my Hyper Sonic moveset. I also made a 100% complete version of a Hyper Sonic Final Smash. He has his correct spines, his eyes are showing, and he still has his stars. No random blackness or anything.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_2130binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_21301binout.jpg)

But some people, myself included, wanted to have alternate colors for Hyper, since he's supposed to flash different colors, but can't in Brawl. Well now Hyper comes in every fruity color and this morning's Lucky Charms. Have a looksee. :3

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100218_0103binout.jpg)

But why stop there? You guys know I also made a Hyper Shadow before...Well he's in here as well, with alternate colors and his own "Hyper Shadow" Final Smash as well.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100218_0115binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100218_0119binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100218_0124binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100218_0125binout.jpg)

So to recap, this download includes the following:

Matching colored Hyper Sonic Outfits (Includes Hyper Sonic FS)
Matching colored Hyper Shadow Outfits (Includes Hyper Shadow FS)
Hyper Sonic Moveset, both original and the Alternate Final Smash
Hyper Sonic FitMotion
Hyper Sonic Victory Theme

Just for a heads up, Hyper Sonic's spines will look correctly for every single one of his animations. ALL of them. That's the whole reason this took all damn day, literally. I started this at around 11 AM my time. It's 1:56 AM now as I'm typing this. x_x

But yeah, there's only one instance where for a split second you'll see them return to Normal Sonic's, and that's when you're fighting...this guy. XD

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_2129binout.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100217_21291binout.jpg)

Captain Falcon's sexy manliness Falcon Dive makes Sonic's spines return to normal during the time he's grabbed, but they'll turn back to Hyper's after the mandatory "YES!".

That's all everyone, enjoy to the fullest...And I don't think you'll be seeing me do anything big for awhile now. x_x

http://www.mediafire.com/?fzzgiwzmymy

And one more thing, the glitches with forward throw not working against certain characters AND for Sonic's running speed being slower have been fixed. he now goes a lot faster than normal Sonic

Original Hyper Sonic Super Sonic edit by wilttilt. Edited it to use Sonic's textures then ported the spines onto Normal Sonic

READ THIS [censored]!! (the [censored], read it) : In the pack, there is a file called FitSonicAltFS.pac . As you may assume, yes, it is the alt Final Smash, but it is NOT a FitSonicFInal file. It's a moveset. You rename it to FitSonic.pac and use it instead of the normal moveset. If you check in both the Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow folders, there is already a FitSonicFinal in there. Those are to be used WITH the Alternate Final Smash. They can be used without them of course, but they make it so Sonic/Shadow is still Hyper when transforming. Do NOT rename FitSonicAltFS.pac to FitSonicFinal.pac or the game will freeze. Rename it to FitSonic.pac and use it instead of the normal moveset if you want the Alternate Final Smash instead of the normal one.

O_O I'm scared of this... Its good but its also TOO good... It can kick my Dark lord MT extremely easily... I still haven't tried it against my other PSAs though...

Good! I wouldn't expect him to lose too easily against someone since he can take out my Onslaught Falcon. XD

I hope you're having fun with him :3

This really doesn't make things easier for me... I already have 3 good different Sonic PSAs, and more textures than there are in game, and now THIS?
Ah, well. Is the texture for this included in the download?

(But also interesting... if now somebody makes an Excalibur Sonic texture, then every Sonic form is in Brawl... lol.)

Really cool moveset...
wait? is that really Roy? Is that real, if so where canz get it?

Good work.

Yes it is buddy. Everything is in the rar in the download. :3

Also to Beyond, yes, that's our boy Roy. Right now people are trying to fully replace Marth's hair with Isaac's in combination with Roy's moveset and outfit. As you can see, it looks astounding. It's just that some of Marth's animations make it disappear for a moment. XD

...Actually nevermind. He's done. He's uploading the .pac now. Stay tuned here :3

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=238861&page=138

Thanks a lot. I actually just saw it right before checking this thread. Amazing stuff right here.

Yep... (bites BeyondPie)

jezzus this is good. nice work! it flows well.

Edit: forgot to ask. u want video?

Man, I wish I had seen this earlier today. DX But sure, a vid would be great. :3

I have another person who is gonna do a more thorough breakthrough of the character in a vid, but he's busy at the moment. Yours will do great until then :3

._............*downloads*

Wave do you mind if I make a balanced version of this? This hack is just so awesome but some people want to play a more balanced brawl so may I? Of course I won't release it myself when its done but I'll send it to you in a PM...

Wave: .....I love it. I love the texture the feel (i did how ever replace you sonicfitmotion with my sonic2super sonic fitmotion) but I love it dude great job

Oh come on, it's Hyper Sonic. He's not supposed to be balanced! XD

Just kidding, though considering I can beat him in a 5 min match using Ike, Captain Falcon, and Wolf, I'd like to think he's balanced enough as it is. But you know what? Go for it. You're free to do as you like with it. Besides, this way we'll have a fair version and a boss version. XD

I think I'd actually like it :3

can someone make a video T.T???

mi wii dies time ago and i want to use or well... see hyper sonic in action ;;

Ima i newb at psa, so whats the second pac for?

...What're you talking about? What second pac? -_o

FitSonic : Moveset
FitSonic00 pcs/pac: Outfit
FitSonicMotionEtc : Animations

I didn't think he was underpowered... All you gotta do is know how to use it lol... And also I forgot to add jumps which is what I planned... Also I already removed the download like you asked  :af:

When every attack does hardly even 2 percent and barely knocks the enemy away even at 100, it's just stupid weak.

And you can't add jumps to Sonic anyways. >_>

wave, whats that song u used for sonic's victory? it aint sonic related, but i like it and it soooo damn familiar...

*edit*
btw but i found some funny glitches with timestop. my favorite one is when the ice climbers prep their upB, if you timestop when the rope comes out it SUPER STRETCHES and nana or popo fly up sooooooo hiiiiiigghghghhhhh.

It said fitsonic00, BUT it was a pac, not a pcs

That pac is for texture editing with ASH

Im happy some1 did something about Roy ^_^

ok thks

here's the vid wave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFChQFe5Dh4

Oh. I thank you dearly for including me in the credits..I really wasn't expecting it :D. And I've been "dead" for a very long time...but I'm not sure what I plan on doing...I might come back to texture hacking...maybe...See you everyone. On another note, this PSA is pretty freaking awesome, overpowered...but awesome. And I like the texture too, even if you did edit it from mine...looks very nice. Great Job.
-Dead Dchen of ESH.

Yay, Dchen temporarily lived! =D

No problem at all buddy. You don't realize how awesome that Super Sonic texture you made is, huh? It's practically law that if you make a Super or shiny like Sonic texture, that' the base to use. XD

And that's a lot for the vid Sness! =D

Edit: Oh! And Sness, it's the song from Guilty Gear XX through AC that plays when it shows who is against who. Basically the versus theme. :3

no prob
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huh never played GGXX (not yet...)
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btw i uploaded some videos of me screwin with hyper sonic against cpus. just throwin it out there for those who care

omg, 3 of the most powerful PSA's in my roster got slaughtered by Hyper Sonic in a 3 vs 1 match xD

I cant wait until a balanced version of this comes out. But i'm still puting this in my god-like section of my CSS =]

Excellent job on the PSA!

Oh My God!
*downloads*

Also been dead for a bit, but thanks for the mention in the credits. Glad you finished it and it looks great =D

@Freezinboi

That's the same thing you said about Onslaught. I have no intentions of making a weaker (What you all call balanced) version of this. If I did, it'd just be either Super Sonic or normal Sonic. I'm pretty sure we have those both already XD Thanks though :3

@Miacis

Wow. You're the last person I was expecting not only to show up, but to like this. O_o I feel even more awesome than usual now. XD Thanks :3

@Sylvo

Sylvo! :3 How's my buddy doing? And no problem! You deserve just as much thanks as Phantom for this being finished. If it wasn't for your Super Sonic, I never would've been able to start back up on this an do the finishing touches. :3

? Why that ?  :-\
I enjoy more than anything else movesets that are both original, and complete. Yours looks really epic as well. Who would deny such an interesting offer ?  ;D

And I personally say that, uh ... screw the balance ! :P I'm interested in moveset hacks in order to have fun, and experiment new kinds of gameplays. If I want fair fights, I'll remove most of the movesets. But since I mostly play with friends who enjoy the fun of the characters as much as I do ... 

I don't know what I have done to merit such astonishment, but I am honored by your feeling of honour. (http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/menkahoure_4.gif)

See, this is exactly why I waited until I was done with both Onslaught and Hyper Sonic before I released anything. It's always better when the moveset you wanna use is already complete and you don't have to be bothered with tedious updates. :3

I'm really glad you and everyone else like him so much though. I feel like all my hard work from the summer until now have really paid off and been worth it. X3

Expect another Boss moveset from me too guys. Next time, I think our boy will finally have his time to shine... >¦3

hmm, which programs do you have to use just to merely edit the attack damages? and are there any tutorials for just doing that much?
because it'd be great if I could edit the attack damages on this for my own personal use (if that's ok), and a few other PSA's I have on my roster as well =x


but really, this is the first PSA I really like even though there's a lot of graphics lolz
usually, most PSA's that use a lot of graphics have it in unecessary places and are very blinding, but i'm not sure what it is, but something about this sonic really makes up for it =]

What is your next project?

A wario? zss?

@ Freezinboi

So you're another one of those people who hate the movesets with awesome effects for no reason too huh? It figures. >_>

And..no, don't mess with it. At ALL. Everything is as I intended and I refuse to have it any other way, even for personal use. He isn't supposed to be some weak character who anyone can beat without a problem. He's meant to be a boss like character. How many times do I have to walk through this with you guys? -.o'

But all that aside, I'm glad you enjoy this one. Thanks. Just leave it alone please. :3

@SonicBurstX

..."OUR BOY"

That's the hint. XD

I've always had this Question, could you put a moveset hack on a costume? say like have Sonic's moveset be the same and the Shadow Hack, He has the Shadow Moveset.

...In a word, no. -_-

oh. what about a motion hack?

UGH! Stop asking stupid questions!

Has it been done? Do you see anyone doing it? No? Guess what THAT means buddy?

The movesets are in the FitChar.pac files. Nothing else. PERIOD. Remember it.

Well I don't know how to do this [censored], I'm just learning how [censored].

Then go ask somebody who cares on Smashboards in the Smash Workshop. There's a whole topic that teaches you all of this stuff about PSA and other hacks. If you want knowledge, seek it. Don't beg for it or expect it to come to you.

Now unless you're done pestering me, I'm done being an [censored] for now. ¦D

I'm sorry for the way i acted back there.

It's alright, no biggie. You learned what you wanted to know. I've got some better news though at least In a few days, we should be getting an update for Brawlbox that just might bring hacks for SFX into the fray. :3

sweetness. one step closer to a perfect roy

This looks great. I specifically like how you used his Hyper Flash as a Final Smash  ;D

If only it was possible for him to flash colours.

couldn't you make him rainbow type color?

Wave I still can't get enough of the epic texture ....I don't know why...

ok xD
and the reason y i hate extremely bright effects is because my eyes cant take it, itz very blinding to me =x

No. This is how most people portray Hyper Sonic for the current gen since the flashing colors were a bit too much to others. Besides, this looks a lot cooler anyway.

No more questions, please?

Edited due to Chaos being absolutely right. -_-

Rawr rawr wave. We just need to chill out a little. and I mean everyone

You're right Chaos, I changed it. -.o

xD its ok I've just been seeing alot of stress lately, thought I would just throw that in there

This thing is god.

I threw a crate up, and it didn't come back down.

...Seriously? O_o

I wanna try that! XD *goes to try it*

And thanks. Sorry for the earlier hostility. Cranky before Christmas. XD;

Added all videos to the first post for preview purposes. :3

I love everything about this.... but my Brother does not enjoy the god like powers of Hyper Sonic. So, is it possible for anyone to make a pack of this with all the shiny effects, just minus the different move set?

...or if anyone can point me in the right direction on how to do it myself, I'm still trying to get a grasp on everything since I'm new to the hacking scene.

No, I'm not making that.

And no you may not change this for yourself either. Either use the moveset and your brother can just get over it, or don't use it at all. I already dealt with one idiot trying to change stuff and he completely ruined the moveset. The rest of you can use it like it is or don't use it at all. Those are your options.

Did I offend you? Sheesh, I didn't think it would hurt to ask, I'm only trying to get Sonic's original default move set packed in with the epic effects. But of course, you are not obligated to fulfill my silly request, so no problem here. =P

With that said, I was a little taken aback by you're statement of,

As if you can control what I do here on my computer, say with BrawlBox or the Smash Attacks app... No, I would not post up an edited copy of you're work, even if I DID edit the thing, that would be disrespectful considering you're straight to the point response you gave to my request. Of course, I'm only 2 weeks in to learning all this stuff, and I have little intent or drive on even attempting to screw with your move set.

Oh well, time to move on.

...You know what? I was being a bit hasty and controlling. Sorry about that. It's not like you're really asking for all that much. If you wanna change it to where he just has the effects, go on ahead. The easy way to do that would be to use Smash Attacks 0.2.1 and simply copy and paste whatever special effects you want from Hyper Sonic's pac onto Normal Sonic's pac. The actual look he has however is just from his outfit, aside from him floating, which is from the FitMotion. (Which will be getting updated soon actually)

I really haven't been my usual happy-go-lucky and open-minded self. I'm not sure why I've been so frustrated and grumpy lately, but I won't make excuses. I'm sorry for being so unfair to you.

Oh god, this character is incredible. I just finished INTENSE Boss Battle in 3 minutes without even trying.  :D
Poor Tabuu didn't know what hit him.  ;D

Epic mention for the effects while running (they look even more beautiful if you somehow manage to get lauched off through the upper screen) and for the specials who ALL really look epic. LOVE the Down-B. (http://forums.p-nintendo.com/images/smiles/love.gif)

Really enjoyable moveset hack you did there.  :)

Mine doesnt work in the sse, is it just mine or a bug?

Wow, it's refreshing to see this sort of attitude from people online, I expected a reply completely opposite of what you gave. I hope I did not come across as a jerk in anyway in my reply, I was doing my best to keep things on an intelligent level, as to not let things degrade into some petty internet squabble.

But it's fine, I appreciate being able to resolve things politely. =]

*fist bumps*

Anyway, I'll try what you said a bit tonight after work. I'm new to it all still, so is it obvious where the effects part of the code is? Because if I just need to copy and paste from one pac to another, then I'm sure I'll manage.

Oh, can't wait to see FitMotion updated. XD

Thanks.

@Miacis

Seriously? I just did the same thing last night! XD It took me a few tries though because I haven't fought Tabuu in awhile, so he got me with his cheap wing attack twice. You know what they say though, three's the charm. I let him have a bag full of Light Speed Attack and he was down for the count in less than 10 seconds. ¦D

Glad to know you're enjoying this moveset man. Nice to see you love everything, especially Down-B. I'm glad that turned out so perfectly. :3

By the way, are you guys still doing the thing where you feature PSA movesets on the main blog? o.o

@ HAXOR

Really? What seems to be the problem? Does the moveset not load? Or is Hyper Sonic not moving at all? I got him to work just fine in SSE. o_o

@ FETKun

You know what, I like you. You've got to be one of the most intelligent people I've met on this board. I'm not sure if that's saying a lot or not saying much considering the lack of very smart people here. >_>

*fistbumps back*

Let me know if you need any help with that. I'll just walk you through some things first, but if the program starts getting stupid on you, I'll just do it myself for you. You deserve it. :3

Thanks a lot for putting up with my cranky behavior. XD; And as for the FitMotion, I've actually got another friend who said she wanted to fix something with it, so when she's done with it, I'll be posting a revamped pack. The current flying animation for Hyper's run makes him go slower than he should. I made him to be so fats that even Big Blue would have a hard time keeping up with him, but it's a common problem with animations. Well work something out. :3

Oh, and when you open up the pac in Smash Attacks, click on Sub-Actions, then you'll see a dropbox next to the word "Main". Click GFX and you'll have find the effects. :3

Acually it doesnt work in most 1-p modes, it crashes

Okay, now I'm absolutely sure that's not the moveset's fault. I was having the same problem with Training Mode whenever I selected a stage. Have you defraged your SD card recently? If so, do you have an info.pac that was on the card when you did it? If that's the case, that's what's freezing yur game. Not the moveset.

So, I played with Smash Attack, and I attempted to paste the data from the GFX portion, but could not get it to paste from one window to the other. Basically had the Hyper Sonic and original Sonic FitSonic's open in their own Smash Attack window.

Probably isn't made to work that way, so I assume the other method is to insert each line manually, and that sounds time consuming. I'm likely just not going about this the right way.

Nono, you have to open Hyper Sonic's, copy whatever effects, then open FitSonic in the same window, go to whatever sub-action you want to paste the effects in and paste it there. And of course, make sure you save. But it sounds like you're using 1.3 instead of 0.2.1. only 1.3 will let you have 2 windows open T_T

Ok, I have it figured out, mostly. I got him to have the energy effect around him while standing in place, beyond that I caused my Wii to lock up. Do I pretty much need to just go through each item in the pull down, (0,1,2,3 etc.) and copy the stuff in from Hyper Sonic? Or is there an easier method, or do I need to only worry about certain ones? Sorry to bug you on all this stuff. =P

Thanks for assistance though, much appreciated.

THIS ONE OF the best hacks i've seen

Like I said, you NEED to get 0.2.1 instead of 1.3. 1.3 has a bug that causes the file to become corrupt when it saves.

And yeah, you'll have to copy and paste through each one that has the effects you want XD;

Wow, I'm just going to take this time to congratulate myself on reaching over 1000 views for this topic. XD

Thanks for all the support you guys! I'm glad you like him! :3

I'll try to bring the matter to the Administration board. Your moveset will certainly be a part of the discussion. :)
(However, not the only one ... :P)

Sweet! Though I guess that means I'll have tough competition. Ah well, at least I have a nice chance. Thanks Miacis. :3

I dont know anything about psa (hi im new btw) but I was thinking since you arent using sonic's dodging animaion for this, maybe you could use it for his jumps. I think it would give him a little flair, plus nobody has done that before, I think it would look cool.

Hyper Sonic is already finished. His moveset won't be getting ANY additional changes from this point on. :3

So I lied. ¦3

Updated with the new alternate Final Smash :3

Haha an even more broken FS!  ;D
Funny I'll try  >D

Edit: I just had an idea: would you mind making a hyper shadow texture? I know he doesn't exist but that would be cool! Well that's just a request do as you want

I can't exactly make a Hyper Shadow since one doesn't exist. I wouldn't have a reference or anything at all. O_o

The reason Hyper Sonic is the way he is in the texture is because most people, when drawing him, color him that way. That, or completely white, and we all know what happens in Brawl if you color Sonic white. x_x

I understand. But I did find this video. I know it's a fake but still pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19qLVlNHMm4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19qLVlNHMm4)

In the video we don't really see shadow transform but that's not a problem: you can make him the color you prefer with his red spines (and the new shoes  ;)) as in hyper form they always change color. Personally, I think turquoise shadow would be soooo beautiful!

Im curious now, what happens when you color sonic white?

He'll turn a rather ugly pinkish creamish color. It's not easy on the eyes XD;

Update guys. I forgot about Hyper's spines. XD;

Does he still hasn't got eyes? If not I will wait until you totally finish him.
Btw you didn't answer me... I know I'm heavy ;D

He IS totally finished. I'm not adding them since the texture for them is always messed up. I said that earlier. Just download it the way it is now. -.o

...So apparently you're heavy, whatever that's supposed to mean. -_o' I'm not doing the texture. I wouldn't be able to unless someone shows me how to delete polygons since the sphere would always show up. I'd have to use the same edited model that Mewtwo used since he hexed it to force the white on the shoes to blend.

Ok ok I download!
Sorry for the "heavy", it's a french expression and I though it existed in english too... ^^'
For the texture I don't understand : doesn't this sphere you're talking about mess up for the FS? For a simple texture their wouldn't be that probleme does it? Because I wasn't talking about the FS, with hyper shadow I would use your chaos beam FS.

...Why are you bothering me so much over a stupid texture? Go bug somebody else. If you haven't caught the hint, I'm not in the best of moods at the moment. >_>

If it's just a normal texture you want, FINE. I'll do it later, when I feel like it.

Edit: You know what, just wait here a sec. I'll be done with it in a  few minutes.

Don't take it like that it was just a suggestion if you don't want to do it well I understand you have other things to do.

Too late now, I'm already done. I even did extra and made my own Super Shadow since all the other ones were wrong. XD

Super Shadow
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_17161binout.jpg)

Hyper Shadow
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_17261binout.jpg)

And I even included the FitMotion that makes his float with his spines like that and everything. There ya go. :3

http://www.mediafire.com/?iimhwzdzzmn

hyper shadow is sexay :)

 :o Wahou! You made fast! That's really perfect thank you!
I also want to say I am sorry, I shouldn't have insist like that :( I just though you were interested as you seem to be a sonic fan.

Nah, I was getting a bit irritated about a lot of other things that weren't working. It's okay. I ended up wanting it as much as you did anyways. XD

Also, special thanks to Haxor for helping me out, here's Hyper Sonic with eyes. Only one problem, no stars anymore. -.o It was the ONLY way we could get the eyes to show up.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/zackwinzard/al_100129_1821binout.jpg)

http://www.mediafire.com/?ujjmwu44mkj

I'd much rather have the stars and glow, so this'll stay separate from the main pack. Here you go though :3

And don't worry, I'm without a doubt a die-hard Sonic fan. I would never have even made Hyper Sonic's moveset, or even known who he was otherwise. :3

I just thought that the glow would oversize the file and make it crash -.-

That's exactly why the only way for the eyes to show is to get rid of it. If we delete the other textures, there still won't be enough room unless we delete one of the eye textures too, and then they won't work correctly at all. T_T;

Don't worry Haxor, you didn't do anything bad. In fact, it just made me realize how simple the problem I was having was XD

Now if I could just get someone to delete the sphere off the model on my fixed Shadow, I can make a perfect Shadow FS -.o

Why not hex it off?
Thanks 4 being nice Wave(I should stop with this mushy crap so i'll end the post)
(http://pics.fort90.com/journal/pokemans.jpg)
rite now

Because I don't know how to hex edit, as simple as that XD;

Why the random picture...? O_o;

can you or someone make a vid with his new final smash ^^?

i can do it :D
the hex i mean not the video sorry D:

HEY DUDE, SOMEONE REALLY LOVES YOUR PIECE OF ART!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFChQFe5Dh4&feature=related

yay, awesome PSA!!!! NO! RAR FILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! D:

Quit whining and download WinRAR o 7Zip XD

Awesome please get a working dl for the alternate final.

But IDK HOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Final update guys...there. x__x

@songeflemy

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but the teleporting looks similar (almost exactly the same as) what me and PI2 had in our PSA. Did Sylvo have something similar or possibly use our teleporting?

Awesume

This is awesome stuff! Sonic 3 and Knuckles were one of my favorite childhood games and Hyper Sonic was a beast. This collection truly does justice to my nostalgia. Great job and thanks!

Quick question, anyone done any CSP's for the different colors? It's not hard to do but if someone had already done it and wanted to share that'd be fabulous!

Also, it looks as if the fruity colors fill all but one of his costumes.. (I know you said likely no more updates) any chance of you or someone else filling that last spot with some awesome fruity color like orange or somethin? If not I could probably figure out how to.. I've been doing all this brawl hacking with others' fabulous work and have yet to try any of my own.. Anywho

GREAT STUFF!!!!

Can you give me the download link, the end of your post doen't appear and i can't get it...

That's it : http://www.mediafire.com/?fzzgiwzmymy

Incredible. I have friends coming to my place in about a week, they don't hack Brawl, so they'll be in for a big suprise...

Perfect but for two things: The alternate Final Smash freezes my Wii (anyone else getting that?)

Hyper Sonic doesn't seem to run/fly as fast as Sonic.

Other than that, I'm sure you know you've done a fantastic job. Thanks!

I've just done some texture which match for Hyper Sonic:


Hyper Ashura (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2ttytjmoman)
(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac286/Aeon70/HyperAshura.jpg?t=1267294659)

Perfect Nazo (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wjmmjfjwuml)
(http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac286/Aeon70/PerfectNazo.jpg?t=1267294680)

@muffins

What're you talking about? Yes they are. Sonic doesn't have a FitChar03 because his first outfit is already counted as blue for team battles. -_-

@Psychotic

That's your problem, not mine. It doesn't freeze my Wii or anyone elses. And you're imagining things about the running speed. That's fixed now, period. He goes faster than Normal Sonic but has a slower start because of the speed increase. if I can run all the way across a FASTER Big Blue with no cars and kills myself on the other side because I was going too fast, then he's fixed.

@Aeon

Nice. :3

About the freeze, My wii freezed too cause I used the the Flash (first final flash) right after the chaos control taunt.
But it doesn't appened any more.

Hyper Sonic slower than Sonic ? lol you'r kidding! I tryed him on Big Blue and He's faster than the racing cars whereas Sonic need a bunny hood. But Hyper Sonic need more time to speed up.

That's a shame, as the alternate FS looks awesome and everything else on my Wii works perfectly... I downloaded it from the link you provided and put it in the right folder etc... strange, but never mind, it's still an awesome character and I appreciate the time and effort you put into it and don't expect you to do anything else with it. :) Look there's no need to be snappy, I was only pointing the speed out and no I'm not imagining things, I can quite easily tell when a character in Brawl is faster or slower than Sonic, as I'm sure anyone can. I appreciate your skill, but not how snappy you're being. Of course if you're not being snappy then I'm sorry, that's just how you seem to be coming across.

Anyway, thank you very much, this is easily my favourite PSA character ever.

I wanted to start by saying this is by far my favorite PSA character! I love your work on this project, and I don't mean to upset you with my post!

I had the same problem as PsychoticDust! I'm sure it works, in fact I know it does because I had it and used it on my SD card when you first introduced the Final Smash. Unfortunatly I lost the file and came back to redownload it and saw your new update.

I downloaded your new file, but the Alternate Final Smash freezes my game. Can someone tell me which file in the download is the Alternate Final Smash and what I should call that file?

Thanks in advance, I look forward to having that Final Smash again (instant death is expected from a final smash by Hyper Sonic, but still I perfer to fly around causing chaos and watching the funny glitches from the characters when they grab the ledge!)

^ I guess I should tell you what I did to cause the game to freeze!

1) I took out the FitSonicFinal.pac

2) I renamed FitSonicAltFS.pac to FitSonicFinal.pac

3) Tried it and it froze

I did this 3 times to make sure it wasn't just a fluke!

I have the original download in a back-up folder (untouched) so I can still follow a step-by-step process if what I did was wrong, to fix this!

Thanks again in advance!

All the psa characters i used are mute Maybe cause i have the PAL version of brawl.
But Phoenix Mario is the one who aren't mute with me, I wonder why...

WRONG. WRONG. COMPLETELY WRONG!!

You change FitSonicAltFS to FitSonic.pac.

The Alternate Final Smash is an alternate moveset so it can call upon it. I specifically said that! *facepalm* Ugh...You slow people... XD

Besides, there's a FitSonicFinal in both the Hyper Sonic and Hyper Shadow folders anyways. You use that alongside the alternate moveset. It makes no sense whatsoever that you would be able to just use a "Final" file with the normal moveset since that moveset has commands that change the Final Smash int he first place.

Honestly, is it really that hard for you people to read? -.o'

Thanks, I guess?!

I did read most of the posts here, but I must have missed that line. I'll try it out later when I have time.

Sorry, I'm kinda slow learning these hack type things, it's not really my focus in life right now.

First of all don't call us slow when you don't know us, not only is it presumptuous, it's also insulting and unfair. I happen to have got the Final Smash working before your last post from re reading your first post. Yay! To someone new to Brawl hacking however, it may not have been so obvious to change FitSonicAltFS to FitSonic.pac. An alternate Final Smash and naming it FitFinal is an easy mistake for a beginner to make. Think about it. Everyone has to start somewhere.

Again, insulting, of course we can read.

I've been following your work for quite a while (I don't usually join forums, I just read and learn), you're clearly skilled (I really do like your PSA's alot), you obviously know it and that's fair enough. It's just a shame that you seem to be a little obnoxious at times (referring only to this topic, as I don't want to assume everything about you). Not everyone has the Brawl hacking knowledge you have, so give people a chance before you jump down their throats. I'm not having a go at you by the way, I'm just trying to be objective. Hopefully I don't get flamed for this...

...You know, 5 minutes ago I would've REALLY been in the mood to be childish and go toe to toe with you two.

Lucky for you, I have a girlfriend who knows how to whip me--err, calm me down. XD

Due to sleep deprivation and several other issues, I've been rather bipolar and unfair lately. So with that in regard, I apologize for being so rude to you both. One of the things that sets me off quickly is to be asked the same question over and over. If I say ti once, that's usually the most I plan on saying it. Twice, okay, sure. Three's the charm, or rather the last strike in this case.

I'm a very impatient hypocrite at times. It's how I am. XD But I know just how horrible I can be sometimes, and I don't like it, especially since I'm fully aware of it. So yeah sorry...

...HOWEVER, there are specific areas where you can read up on all of these things from noob to expert in a good 30 minutes, though they're on Smashboards, not here. >_> I put stuff out there for people to sue with the idea that since they know about it, they should already know how to use it, because no one should be stupid or reckless enough to try and use something without even knowing how to or how it works, thus they should look it up first.

Basically, it's a nice case of "READ THE F***ING MANUAL" or something along those lines. ¦D

Phew...I feel even better after ranting like that. Now I just need some food. o.o

And I've updated the first post just to make sure no one else gets it wrong again...thought he site is acting weird and what I typed won't show up. -_-

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing.

Since when have I been considered by any means "really good" or "an expert"? Seriously.

Rather than consider myself really good,  consider myself NOT that good compared to other people. XD

Well, it did work, so thanks!

Mabey I don't know how to use brawl box or how to make custom CSS (or whatever you call it). But I do kinda know what I'm doing. I've been putting in custom music using bcsm-gui 1.5, I have a pack someone made with textures pre-made for all characters, I use Ocarina Code Manager quite often to change the values of characters to give myself unusual challenges, I have Brawl+ (version 6), ect.

I do know how to name files in the folders too. I just didn't know that altfinalsonicfs (whatever you called it) was an actual moveset, I thought it was the Final Smash. And I thought the other one (already called FitSonicFinal) was just the first one you made. Plus I didn't read every post, so I must not have seen the text that tells you what to do (there was 7 pages when I downloaded this, and I had to go to work in an hour that day, so I didn't have time to read everything).

Also I said it in a previous post that I'm very busy, (I have work, school, two volunteer jobs, martial arts, and a few hours to throw a party with my friends on the weekend), so I don't have all day to sit at a computer reading everything people have to say about your work!

Don't think I'm attacking you, cause that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm grateful you answered my question, and I'm just saying why I had a hard time getting it to work.

Be proud of your work, I actually took time out of my busy day to create an account and ask you a question because I love this hyper sonic project you made, and I was excited to try everything in your package.

So again THANKS! XD

You know what, you were doing fine until you got to this part.

Considering this statement, you don't go on forums very often, do you? or if you do, there must be some pretty lenient and laidback people there. I'm too tired to care about saying much more at this point, so I'll keep this short for you.

If you're not gonna read the thread, then don't even bother posting, especially if it's a question about the thread. This is simply because chances are, your question has already been answered. Several times over for that matter. Don't whine and exaggerate like ti takes a long time. If you can waste enough time to type that block of text, you can take half the amount of time to at least "skim" through the thread.

Call me selfish, but the various tasks you do in your life don't have the even the slightest bit to do with me, thus I kind of don't care. It's not mean, just honest. XD I don't have patience for people who can't take the time to read what I've already put out for them to know. If they have problems afterwards, blame their fate as Kratos from ToS would say. It's not my problem. I'm already set. ¦D

And so to end this dispute peacefully....Yeah, okay. Sure. Thanks. XD

I still stand by what I said though. Next time, regardless of what problems you may have, read first and then post. I'm pretty sure that if this happens one more time, I just won't do anything at all to help considering how bipolar I've been as of late.

Oh...and one more thing...You still use Code Manager? HA. ¦P *SMACKED*

Get Brawl Tweaker. Works much better. If you wanna edit the codes beforehand, just use notepad or something. It's actually less of a hassle. :3

U immediately deserved 1million Internets when you made Onslaught Falcon.

SO....EPIC!!

Not sure why you feel you need to attack every gap of untold facts I leave out? I guess I could have used better words (and fewer of them), because it made me sound a little snappy (which was unintentional). I guess we just got off on the wrong foot cause I asked a somewhat obvious question pre-answered in here, and you weren’t in the best of moods when you helped out my noob like question.

Although I am as busy as I say I am, obviously I have a little free time (very little) to check out what’s new in the brawl world, etc, or you wouldn’t see me here from time to time.

Thanks again for your help, the Brawl Tweaker is a nice addition to my editing BTW! XD
Can’t we just shake and call a truce already?

Wave mind if I mess with some of the animations? I'm not doing anything serious with your hyper sonic. I just like the quills. And if you remember my poll I wanna include hyper in it. *Wink wink*

@Chaosinvoker

Because FALCON KICK! D<

No problem, and sure. :3

@dingo

Ah, the animations? Knock yourself out. Better you mess with them than me. XD

Onslaught got bumped, so I'm bumping Hyper too. Sue me. ¦P

i be tested him and my conclusion is what he is over powered :(, his attacks do a lot of damage and they can kill to someone with 60%, and the smash final is a 1 hit k.o, he isnt balanced D:

At least this wasn't bumped from months ago.

Hey I know you're new here. If this character was balanced then something would be wrong. Hyper Sonic is supposed way too overpowered and broken.

NO [censored] SHERLOCK.

Why do you think Hyper Sonic hasn't appeared in another Sonic game yet? What do you think the point of this lil project was as I stated int he first post? ¦D

*facepalm* D'oh.

Easy Wave, he's new to all this. He may not have read everything through an just downloaded it.

like i did, but i understand that he was broken b4 i did

lol, that maked me laugh XD, but is a very good psa(i mean the qualitty), nice job then :D

yea aside from getting my ass handed to me by a lvl 3 hyper sonic, its awesome

Ah don't worry Dingo, I'm not being seriously mad. :3

And a Level 3? I only fight Level 9s, so I don't know how he's like at any lower level... o.o

Oh well, I can beat him at 9, so I'm sure 3 is no sweat. :3

Lvl 9 CPUs seem to be different for everyone from my perspective (I heard that they do learn from the player) It just so happens that my cpu is deadly with hyper sonic at level 9, so much that the only character i can beat him with ironically is your Onslaught Falcon. But according to my friends im not bad, but for some reason the computer manages to beat me more times than i'd like.

naw i was just messing around with athena and didnt know how to use her

THIS IS BEAST  :af2:

That's to the point. XD

But thanks a lot. Glad you enjoy it. :3

wow this is cheap as [censored]

what you got 'gainst SAKURA :srs:

See my response to Lord of Hell. XD

Can you do a CSS?
Ah, I forgot, really good job

...You want me to make you your own screen? Why the hell would I do that? O_o

or are you asking for CSPs? Cause if so...Then still no. XD *SMACKED*

I originally was going to, but there's no point in doing so. If you really want some though, someone else made some for me (For God knows why ¦D ).

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9750809&postcount=291

Is Hyper Shadow in the Sonic download? I'm downloading it now, but I didn't see a link for your Shadow. Is it on a different page?

Got my answer when  checked the dl file. Thanks for both.

(Also, thanks for the Alternate Final Smash. I love the idea behind your first one, but breaking a cool character makes me sad. So ty for the update. You rock!)

...The first FS doesn't "break" Hyper's coolness in anyway. If anything I still find it cooler and more effective. Besides, the first FS is an actual power he has from the games. XD

But thanks a lot though, glad you enjoy it. :3

Yeah, I wanted to say CPS, I've got confused. Thanks!

No problem at all! :3

Hey Wave, you ever thought of releasing just the vertex edit for Hyper/Super Sonic? So that way people can use them for their own personal Sonic creations instead of having to use PSAs along with it?

...What vertex edit? There is no vertex edit. O_o

He's asking if you can make one. So people can have a Hyper Sonic without having to use the PSA or MotionEtc.pac you made. To have a Hyper Sonic to use for their own creations without editing yours.

No, he's CLEARLY thinking that Hyper Sonic's spines are a vertex edit, when they're in fact an animation edit. XD

And I honestly don't like the idea of him being used with other things, so for moment I am close-minded.

Thus, no. ¦D

THAT, and I can't edit vertices. I tried. It didn't work. If you want this, somebody better teach me how the hell to use Blender correctly. XD;

Besides, if I could edit vertices, I would've already made myself already on Sonic and Ike. Wave that is. :<

I use 3ds Max I can learn Blender and PM you an explanation with pics.

I started a thread for vertices of Shadow and a Fixed Tails and Knuckles. He requested the Hyper Sonic there though. I know you don't want someone messing with your creation so I didn't request a Hyper be made.

Yeah, I just saw that. o.o

Jack told me to ask stickman for help, but I think he's busy with something so I don't wanna bother him... -.o

if you think you can help me out dingo, I'd be VERY grateful and be glad to make anything you and D. would like. :3

Well, anything I can make of course. Plus keep in mind I'm limited at the moment. My SD Card reader broke apart into pieces a few days ago, so I have no way to add or switch any hacks in my Brawl right now. T_T

That sucks. I have a WiiScrubber that opens any iso except brawl. And I run brawl through dolphin. Huge Fail. I can edit the vertices myself but being that I can't run Anim8or I haven't finished any vertex edits myself. Can't finalize them to check them in BrawlBox myself so I haven't bothered.

Made an edit to my post. Making it clear to save Hyper for you.

Be careful with BrawlBox preview. They can fool you sometimes. You don't know how many times Jack had to struggle with Birdo because of that. BrawlBox would show him one thing while the ingame results were completely different. Things don't go quite right sometimes. T_T

LOL sorry Wave, I didnt mean to "disrespect" your Hyper...I just kinda thru that in there along with the Super idea because since they "cut from the same cloth"..metaphorically speaking. Honestly I would really prefer a base vertex edit of Shadow and regular Super Sonic. (Anyone capable that is reading this, get on it! lol)  And dude I totally agree with you...I want sooo bad to be able to vertex hack, but MY problem is I hate that you can only use the "vertex dots" as your guide...I wanna be able to see the 3d model AND the dots so I can CLEARLY see what im editing...its kinda daunting and hard to see for some characters when all you have is the vertex dot points as your guide..

Good to know. I would have to send what I do to someone to check out anyway.

If you checked the pic with Sonic's quills, there some random points. They may be the end of his quills. No idea. They may cause problems.

@ D.

If you want I can figure out the points on a character for you. Like I did for Sonic. The clumps of points make sense to me at least.

Well...my dilemma is for a different character. Im trying to make a Casshern out of Capt Falcon...I want to edit his helmet or his falcon insignia on his helmet to make the blade brim for Casshern's helmet. Also I want to take Falcon's gloves and press them completely against his body to make it look like his skin instead of the flaps extending out...heres a pic of what im talking about...

http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-10/tvc-cashern.html

I'll PM you the pics later. In class right now.

Casshern kicks ass so hard. I'd LOVE to see that done. D:

And don't worry D., you didn't so a thing wrong. I was just being close-minded, like I said. Honestly it would help out a bit for people of it was a vertex hack instead supposedly, just so they can use it for other hacks if they don't wanna fly too.

@dingo

Alrighty. And that'll help out a lot. If things do well and I understand everything I need to do, I'll be able to make Wave fully and completely instead of just recoloring Sonic. :3 I'd have to make him on Ike too though since Wave is an original character, not a Sonic fancharacter. However...for some reason, his Sonic look is more popular with everyone. o_o'
Probably because that's how I'm normally introduced. XD

I can already see how hard it'll be to change Ike and Sonic to look like THIS though. Minus the yellow in the hair. -~-

http://waveshockerzero.deviantart.com/art/Wave-Kusanagi-82782301
http://waveshockerzero.deviantart.com/art/Wave-Tall-and-Proud-119746681
http://waveshockerzero.deviantart.com/art/Waveshocker-Sigma-110602873

Holy crap...I haven't colored any of my recent stuff in FOREVER! o_o Tall and Proud aside, this stuff is kinda old...I need to get to work. Seriously. Especially since Wave doesn't even look like this right now. XD

Edit: Hey everyone! Thanks a lot for the over 5000 views! Much appreciated! :3

@Wave

I have an idea for how you can make that. If Sonic's quill tip can be found and I think I know how you can do it. After thinking about it for a little bit I can picture how you can do it. It will look right in blender. Can't say the same for BrawlBox and in game.

@D.

I see the problem with Falcon. His legs, feet, forearms and wrists are all connected to each other. I found his shin and wrists. I have an idea to get rid of the points in the feet through hexing to isolate the wrist and arm. Then replacing then feet afterward through hex.

*EDIT*

If you two or whoever reading this has vertex questions like finding a body part PM me. As of Monday I have a hell week of animating 3 projects. I'm checking again with you Wave. Can I make Dansen Hyper?

Ahh I see, so what about the helmet/insignia?

That one's easy. I'll pm you what you should work with. Let's not fill up Wave's thread with Falcon talk any longer.

What's wrong with Falcon talk? Falcon is manly. :<

And...who the heck is Dansen? o_o

Animate Hyper to Caramell Dansen. I did that poll. I can finish that during my break but was wondering if you would let me animate Hyper to do it too.

*eats popcorn while waiting for it to happen* :3

I can't use anim8or, therefore I can't convert to .obj, which means I can't open jack in blender.

@Wave
Check your PM box in a minute.

PM Box checkification complete. I was offline earlier. :3

Does his percentage go up slowly in a similar fashion to how he loses rings when he turns super/hyper?

No, not at all. Wouldn't even dream of adding it either. That would mean giving him a weakness. XD

i noticed a bug. When you use the FS when the opponents have one stock left it freezes before the KO.

No it doesn't. That's just something else you've done wrong with some other file or code. XD

Has anyone here been able to copy their Wii internal memory Brawl data and transfer it to an SD card? If so please tell me how. Thanks. No one is responding to my quesitons in the help forum at all.

That doesn't mean I want you asking that random question in my topic. Go somewhere else. -.o

Hey WAVE are you gonna make a MAX Hyper it would be awesome.

MAX Hyper vs. MAX Onslaught=match of the century.

...No...I'm not... -_-;

I will say this. I do have every intention to do another Sonic PSA that'll be coming with a possible vertex hack and would require a ton of animations too. However, neither of them will technically have anything to do with Sonic at all.

And I'm not even sure if I'll go through with it.

Now leave me alone, I need to pack for my trip. See you all in a week or two. XD

Have a safe trip.

Yeah sorry for bugging ya.

And here I am a few days later. Enjoying the trip and what not. XD

And it's okay ADJ, no harm done. :3

you went WAY TO FAR with that sonic!!! DX
but its so cool and your one of my favorite people on here ^_^

just wanted to know are you ever planning on watering him down to be able to make him a little more balanced? Because i would love using him but with out having such an unfair power advantage to go with his speed ( and for time stop to have to recharge like wario's fart)

It's Hyper Sonic, who is considered overpowered in his own series.

What do YOU think? HELL NO! XD

LOL i like it personally i like trying to kill damn near impossible cpu. i also am a lot better than most of my friends i play with so they use the really over powered chars like this while i simply use zss. this one is pretty tough to kill too XD but it's fun ^^

Wait WAVE what happened to yor sig

lvl. up?
posts:I am a geek?

how did you do that.

Somebody loves me, that's how. :<

You should check out the KC:MM Family thread more often. XD

O.K.
Never really seen it before.

waave-sama ._.
i know you dun like ppl bugging about your superbia hypa soniccuh-kun, but :|

uhm I really like him, and i love brawl+, and I love sonic... see my problem?

I woul like a brawl with hyer sonic, sonic, and brawl+ gameplay... see my problem?

Can i has a fnal smash for turning into hyper sonic (- -, ive asked before, and i was warned by a friend, but I look past those words of wisdom and come to you!

normal sonic moveset( im using C.C 3.0 shadow) with a final smash where u becme hyper sonic for a limited time... Can i has!? =D  :happy:

Um...Just use the FitSonicFinal file for Hyper Sonic? -_-

I think he means normal sonic with a final smash that makes him your PSA?

Yeah he requested the awhile ago. Where you transform into Hyper and play like Wario Man would. But you can end it with the big flash.

What the hell!? If I knew how to do that then don't you think I would've tried!?

It was hard enough just getting Hyper Sonic Flash to work! DX

hmmmm.....somehow.....I got this to work on my Brawl which is a PAL version....and people told me it wasnt possible!

So no hyper sonic 4 me :[, okies i can live with that den! :'(

heyy WAVE i dont want to sound like a pest but do you still have the orginally hyper sonic with out the huge long quills plz and wat page did u gave a link for the csp

Hey Wave I'm having some problems and I'm hoping that you could help. Basically I don't know what folders to send to my SD card and where in my SD card. I sent them all and nothing happens. I sent them to my Riivolution folder, nothing happens. So could you help me with that please? Also is there some thing I need to use it like a texture hack programme because I don't use texture hacks at the moment.

First off, do NOT revive topics that are old for reasons not reguarding work on the project itself.. Bad kitty.
Second: http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=12169.0
Read it, live it, learn it.

Meh, that's okay. The more revives, the more downloads I get. XD

Well as long as this thread is revived for the time the time being...I'd like to say that your Hyper Sonic is awesome. You manage to maintain a certain amount of balance while at the same time making him an overpowered character. I really enjoy playing as him and beating the living crap out of my most hated characters in Brawl. *chuckles evilly* Anyway, kudos to you Sigma.

Hey can you help me out with my dark sonic moveset? I'm trying to make it myself but X_X let's just say it's not going well. On a side note, this is just what I'm trying to do, but a little help never hurt.

Up Smash A(It has the assist trophy animation): Sonic expands an electrical field around him that covers a wider area depending on how long you charge it. Instant(the c stick move) just his hand, about the same area that Zelda's up smash covers. Half charged(if you let him charge it some) it expands a little bit past the size of his body. Fully charged: huge knockback and extra damage but also damages sonic a little bit.

Down Smash A: Sonic spins in place and a rotating vortex of wind (Ala Nayru's love) does a lot of damage and is inexcapable. This move continues for a bit after the animation ends.

Side Smash: Sonic charges for a falcon punch and shoots out an electric field.

Side B: Sonic does sheiks side smash A and sends out an electrical field around his body while doing so.

Down B: Sonic unleashes a hurricane around himself while he's spinning. (The hitboxes are like Nayru's love)

Secret move 1: press the left or right taunt for a surprise attack that reminds you of the fox illusion
secret move 2: press the down taunt to do damage with your feet
Secret move 3: press up taunt while holding A to summon Shadows assist trophy.

oh my god... it's uber sexiness burns my eyes

Luckily my eyes never have gone blind. I'm the only one in my family with 20/20 vision so I got good insurance against this baby :P

I love this as much as Full Throttle though if you could get the dash on this guy I'm good. Alternate move could be possible if the dash wasn't part of the motion.

And it is bumped once again...

No surprise really.  It still remains to be one of the best and first good OPed movesets :P

no offense but your artificial intelligence or A.I. sucks REALLY BAD. I can beat 3 onslaught falcons myself with only a slight little mod to your moveset 1vs3 yes! one me vs 3 level 9 onslaught falcons at the sametime...
this seriously deseves a
(http://oi54.tinypic.com/op7j8i.jpg)

Hyper Sonic was made to be harder than onslaught, plus you're a player. You can abuse attacks.

Also, what do you think you're doing modifying my moveset when I specifically said not to? >_>

Hyper Sonic was made for fighting against, not using. You just happen to be able to use him too. If you want something harder, fight MAX Onslaught.

yeah fight max onlsaught, i can kill him buy only one of hem, as soon as 2 or more enter the field i get raped ever so hard.

That may be because of the fact that Onslaught uses regular Captain Falcon's A.I.  Wave probably didn't do anything to the A.I. at all.  So you really don't have a right to facepalm him >.>

Well I think modifications to released PSAs are sorta OK as long as you don't plagiarize the work. I personally think it is annoying to have someone alter your work to suit themselves but at least they don't think it's their own after the mod. I know I suck you-know-what at anything involving making PSAs so I don't have to kiss your @$$ XP I don't want to anyway.

But... I didn't post it or anything... so it doesn't count as plagerism... if i posted it i would have told you... one facepalm just doesn't work...
(http://i56.tinypic.com/2ut0sxl.jpg)

Watch yourself or you'll be ninja'd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZc7t3dcARA

It may actually be possible to make Hyper Sonic flash different colors using Gecko codes. There is already a code that lets you switch textures mid-battle with a button combination. I'm no expert on Gecko codes, but I would imagine anyone with a decent understanding of them could edit this code to have the texture-switch activated by a time frame instead of buttons. In other words, you would have all of sonic's textures replaced by one of the recolors included in this download, and the code would toggle between them, giving the appearance that Sonic is flashing colors. I may be a total noob proposing something impossible, but if not it would be worth the attempt.

Well this is PSA, not codes though good thinking there. There's animated textures as well. On ESH. Mario was lucky enough to get it. T-T

Yeah, I know this is about PSA, I just thought of that while I was reading the post and since there isn't a code-requests section I thought it best to share my thoughts here. And I've heard about the animated textures, but I thought the person that started it refused to give a download or clear instructions on how to do it. Did someone else figure out how he did it?

I'm trying to find the video now.

Here's a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmlZqLMVs9A

I've watched it a time or two, but just now noticed the textures only move during Mario's wait animations, which means even if somebody finds out how this was done it would still require more work to get it right.

Wrong forum. Go talk about this somewhere else. Hyper Sonic is done and over with already. I've said this constantly.

In other words, shut up already. >_>

I'm sick of seeing this bumped now.

Edit: Okay, I decided to unlock it again. Just keep the bumping to a minimum. -.o

Wave I dont understand.. I mean i know how to do the whole texture stuff. But how do you get the entire mod in there like what do you replace. This might be more tricky for me because I use an action replay SD card but I can get a new one. I just need some sort of tutorial. Because this looks EPIC.   :af:
:EDIT: Just wondering. Does Dark Hyper Sonic come in the colors pack? Or do I have to get hyper sonic and make his texture dark. Reply because if Dark Hyper Sonic comes in the colors than EVERYTHING will be easier for me.

i downloaded the hyper sonic pack but have no idea how to use it. i have no prior expeirience with hacking. i have the homebrew channel and gecko os. CAN SOMEONE FEEL PITY FOR THIS NOOB AND HELP?

Basically, make the following folders in the root of your SD card:

private -> wii -> app -> RSBE -> pf ->

Now in pf make two folders call Fighter and Sound

No in the Fighter folder make another folder called Sonic

In this Sonic folder, extract the RAR file.  You should have FitSonic.pac, FitSonicMotionEtc.pac, FitSonicFinal.pac, FitSonicAltFS.pac, Z47.brstm (or something like that) and a couple more folders. 

If you want to use the alternate Final Smash, delete FitSonic.pac and rename FitSonicAltFS.pac to FitSonic.pac.  If not just delete FitSonicAltFS.pac

Now Cut and Paste ALL the files from Hyper Sonic Costumes folder into the Sonic folder your currently in.  This is what you should have in the Sonic folder:

FitSonic.pac
FitSonic00.pac
FitSonic00.pcs
FitSonic01.pac
FitSonic01.pcs
FitSonic02.pac
FitSonic02.pcs
FitSonic04.pac
FitSonic04.pcs
FitSonic05.pac
FitSonic05.pcs
FitSonicFinal.pac
FitSonicMotionEtc.pac

Now that you have that Cut and Paste the Z47.brstm into the Sound folder and then make another folder within the Sound folder called strm and place it in that.

Now RUN before Wave catches you o.o (he doesn't like his old topics getting bumped you see).

Why do ppl say cut & paste? Isn't it copy and paste?

Cut is Ctrl X
Copy is Ctrl C

They are two completely different things.  Cut actually allows you to move stuff whilst Copy just replicates it.

hyper sonic is actally white watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6jfDu4cAQ8&feature=related

No, Hyper Sonic is flashing multicoloured and don't bump old topics.  Wave hates it when this topic gets bumped especially with stupid comments like this.

Aye, Wave, the mediafire download keeps directing to the same page...
Does anyone have a link to this download through another site? I REALLY WANT THIS. ; ;

It happens(Traffic causes it usually). Just check every so often the download to check if it won't refresh the page. Also, next time use the help board...

Hi.. I'm kind of new here but when I try to put the file name FitSonicMotionEtc.Pac  into my SD card it would not let me. Keep saying the destination you have specified does not exist. It might be an offline network location or an empty CD or DVD drive. Check the location and try again.... Keep telling me that. So what can i do to fix this?

See if your SD Card is write-protected and turn it off. If that doesn't work, try formatting your Sd card.