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Title: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port/Sonic Heores Done!!
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 08, 2012, 03:27:38 PM
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To start things off, i've been getting better at doing psa im still not great at animation either, but im still learning. I will Be Updating this Thread so feel free to Respond here or Message me personally. also if i dont update or respond my laptop is still broken and i have to  connected to the tv.

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Chaos 0
(http://i.imgur.com/EcfDg.png)

Character Over - :mk:
Size - 5/10 Roughly the same height as lucario.
Walking speed 3/10 Pretty darn slow.
Running speed - 4/10 (The mechanics of his run are a bit different seeing as he'll be a puddle on the ground, so although he's not running much faster than he walks, he makes a difficult target.
Air speed - 4/10 still pretty darn slow, but faster than his walk
Combo Speed - 4/10 Slow, stretchy, cool looking :megusta:
Priority - 10/10 Should have some sweet freaking range.
Jump Height - 6/10
Power - 8/10 Nice power. Smashes defiantly pack a punch
Weight - 106(Heavy weight) Due to his weight, he should have a fairly high fall speed.

His Move set Ideas
AAA Combo-    (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2008/272/0/d/chaos_0_attacking_by_deathseeker989.gif)

SMASHES
>Smash = Slow startup, but arm stretches a long distance. Near 14 damage (mid knockback for smash)

vSmash = Remade all-together. He stretches out both hand above his head at an angle and smacks the ground on both sides.

^Smash = Smash hand into the ground creating a taller water spout directly in front of. Near 16 damage (mid/high knockback for smash)

Air Attacks
NeutralAair = He turns so that his stomach faces flat ground. He begins rotating his body, his arms stretch out a slight bit. (It has midspeed startup, and lasts a decent amount of time. It doesn't have much knockback at all, but it has decent range) damage/hits undecided; most likely 3 hits possible with 3-4 damage each

^Aair = I have no Idea

vAair = (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0D-air.gif)

>Aair = Basically the same as marios ">Aair" but with 2 hands and less possibility of spiking, considering it will be at more of an angle. There will be a sweet spot in 1-2 frames depending upon how it comes out. 12-15 damage

<Aair = A spin kick backwards (Think Sonics "^Aair" but slower, and facing sideways instead of upwards. Also a single hit instead of 2) Not all attacks can be stretchy, although it's the premise of the character there should be a few normal attacks. 8-10 damage


DashAttack - He jumps out of his puddle and dives right back into it. Though it's the dive that does that does the damage rather than the jumping out of. (7-8 damage) This attack has a cool down of 1.3 seconds after it's done so it can't be spammed. Note that he enters his run again right after the attack, unless of course you release the analog stick or move it in another direction.



SPECIALS
NeutralB = (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/ChaosNeutralB-1.gif)

^B&^Bair = Similar to olimars, (able to grab ledges) except at a 90 degree angle; and with his stretchy arm (not plural, he uses one) rather then pikmin. (in the air, If it hits an opponent it does 5-7 damage, he pulls himself above them and does an immediate head jump. Making contact with the opponent re-enables the use of ^B) (On the ground it pulls the opponent down and smacks them into the ground (9-12 damage) Note that using the ^B in the air, should not disable any attacks in the air.
It should also push him up ashort distance and not begin falling until the arm begins to retract.
(Not sure if this is possible, though I will attempt it)

vB = I have no idea

vBair = In the air he enters ultra fast fall facing straight down diving into the ground. After hitting the ground he creates his puddle trap (Unless of course there is already one on the field as I have stated, Then he would just sink to the ground and stand back up)

>B - (Give me some ideas here too; I had originally thought to use the water ball from SonicBattle, but it's a complete and total waste of time and space.) I have no idea.


vA = I don't know yet because i'm not sure if he will crouch into a puddle yet, or just a regular crouch.
>A = Imagine similar to SDooms KidBuu
^A = Much like lucarios

Fall Attacks/Cliff Attacks = I'll get to those later.


and for his final smash Perfect Chaos!
Super Sonic vs. Perfect Chaos. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R47eN-ERO6s#)

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Bomeberman over Snake
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Shadow over Wario
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Title: Re: Leon Exodio's psa projects
Post by: SonicBrawler on September 08, 2012, 03:42:25 PM
That Bomberman is epic.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's psa projects
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 08, 2012, 03:54:20 PM
YES!!!! Finally a Chaos PSA! Extreme Hype! ;D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's psa projects
Post by: sonic and Knuckles on September 08, 2012, 04:29:43 PM
cant wait for the chaos psa and tails


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 09, 2012, 04:42:46 PM
YES!!!! Finally a Chaos PSA! Extreme Hype! ;D
yeah i had this idea for a long time but had it on hold for along time


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: sonic and Knuckles on September 10, 2012, 12:17:45 AM
if you need help on any of your projects ill be glad to help


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 10, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
if u plan on maling tails i have a magic hook model the one that shoots up in case u want to use it


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 10, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
if u plan on maling tails i have a magic hook model the one that shoots up in case u want to use it
ok cool is that the thing from sonic battle i think lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 11, 2012, 06:44:50 PM
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Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 11, 2012, 06:49:47 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/mfKhb.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/LDd9m.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/lbg0d.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/9EHBk.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/koxJw.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/mwEKB.png[/url]) ([url]http://i.imgur.com/s8wKV.png[/url])


([url]http://i.imgur.com/w5WL3.gif[/url])
yeah that could work over foxes blaster and that could be his b move or down b im not sure yet


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: TailsxPokemonxBrawler222 on September 11, 2012, 08:26:03 PM
U want it to be shot? Wouldn't it be easier as an up smash?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 11, 2012, 09:11:06 PM
im still not sure about his moves yet tho that would be nice as a counter tho


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for what psa you want next
Post by: sonic and Knuckles on September 13, 2012, 12:26:33 AM
looks like chaos is going to be next lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 13, 2012, 01:10:02 PM
lol ok chaos is next for now but vote in the poll for who he would be over


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 13, 2012, 04:44:04 PM
lol ok chaos is next for now but vote in the poll for who he would be over
Wario voted.. I don't like Wario


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 13, 2012, 04:45:12 PM
Wario voted.. I don't like Wario
lol me to


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 15, 2012, 08:40:41 AM
Did you port the model to Wario already? Because I have some interesting articles you can use


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 15, 2012, 09:34:15 AM
Did you port the model to Wario already? Because I have some interesting articles you can use
no not yet havent hid time even tho i can do i right now just dont feel like it lol ill do it later message me about the articals or get on xbox and or skype


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 15, 2012, 09:48:56 AM
no not yet havent hid time even tho i can do i right now just dont feel like it lol ill do it later message me about the articals or get on xbox and or skype
Skype it is. Can't voice chat because I have a friend over. So if possible get on skype now. And for Chaos, I think I can make a moveset list for you.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 15, 2012, 10:49:52 AM
Final Smash: PERFECT CHAOS!!!!!!!

Problem is that the SADX model isn't very good. It would be awesome if it could look like this
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081129081626/sonic/images/4/44/Dx_perfect.jpg)
Having that translucent effect would be awesome! ;D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 15, 2012, 11:04:11 AM
Final Smash: PERFECT CHAOS!!!!!!!

Problem is that the SADX model isn't very good. It would be awesome if it could look like this
([url]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081129081626/sonic/images/4/44/Dx_perfect.jpg[/url])
Having that translucent effect would be awesome! ;D
The model of perfect chaos has a Custom Boneset and will be animated completely. Trust me, the idea's are already finished lol. I'm helping with this project so I know what's going down. The main discussion is who Chaos is going over. Personally, I want it over Wario, but other's want it over Marth so it can be portable. I personally want Wario OUT! but we will update and let you know. Leon is incharge so anything he wants to announce, he will


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 16, 2012, 10:56:55 PM
yeah so dont worry about the final smash also i will have a pic of it soon


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: RasenganKameha on September 17, 2012, 06:25:22 AM
yeah so dont worry about the final smash also i will have a pic of it soon

I hope Chaos 0 is going over Wario, I have nobody good over Wario and I don't like Wario at all.
there aren't even that many good PSAs for Wario, why do people want another character to go over marth.

and will his final smash really be perfect chaos?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 06:36:47 AM
if it is over marth then he can be ported by a .rel also yes i have a model that has a custom bones for perfect chaos


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 17, 2012, 09:24:29 AM
Personally, I have Petey over Wario. His moveset is very broken though. lol

Chaos would be better over Marth just in case.


*cough* Methinks Petey needs a revemp. Maybe the creator isn't busy......wow this is a long hinted sentence...*cough* :P


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 01:52:41 PM
Personally, I have Petey over Wario. His moveset is very broken though. lol

Chaos would be better over Marth just in case.


*cough* Methinks Petey needs a revemp. Maybe the creator isn't busy......wow this is a long hinted sentence...*cough* :P
lol looks like marth winning but the poll will end tomorrow


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 17, 2012, 03:14:20 PM
Cool. I'll be waiting for that picture you mentioned. ;)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 03:27:05 PM
here is the model preview for perfect chaos
(http://i.imgur.com/HohXr.png)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 17, 2012, 03:29:50 PM
Whoa! Awesome! ;D I'm guessing the FS itself will be his mouth laser he used to shoot down the Egg Carrier?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 03:32:11 PM
Whoa! Awesome! ;D I'm guessing the FS itself will be his mouth laser he used to shoot down the Egg Carrier?
maby watch the video on the first page to see what it will be lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: sonic and Knuckles on September 17, 2012, 04:22:55 PM
here is the model preview for perfect chaos
([url]http://i.imgur.com/HohXr.png[/url])
looks awesome


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 08:04:45 PM
i have the down a air done on chaos also he will glide for his side b in the air like what he did in sonic adventure 2 battle


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: GanonZack on September 17, 2012, 08:09:04 PM
i have the down a done on chaos also he will glide for his side b in the air like what he did in sonic adventure 2 battle
I will be waiting for Chaos!. And oh yeah, I remember playing with him in SA2: Battle, he was my favorite character in the multiplayer games, along with Metal Sonic.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 08:12:29 PM
I will be waiting for Chaos!. And oh yeah, I remember playing with him in SA2: Battle, he was my favorite character in the multiplayer games, along with Metal Sonic.
yeah slow but strong  he was in the games and also soon to be in brawl


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 17, 2012, 08:33:09 PM
Hey Leon, do you want me to animate anything? I might as well do something so I can stay up to date with Chaos


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - vote for who chaos 0 would be over
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 17, 2012, 08:58:08 PM
Hey Leon, do you want me to animate anything? I might as well do something so I can stay up to date with Chaos
some of his moves from sonic battle would be nice but so far its going over marth and also if you ever played sonic dx i would like his wait animations from that game if you dont know what im talking about ill link you to it


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 10:44:56 AM
Yes, the DX wait is nice. :P I shall follow this project all the way through.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 18, 2012, 12:09:46 PM
is he gonna be running in the puddle?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 18, 2012, 12:16:28 PM
like what he did in sonic battle the puddle is going to be his running animation


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 12:49:56 PM
And I'm assuming his dash attack is gonna be his shark dive out of the puddle?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 18, 2012, 03:05:01 PM
And I'm assuming his dash attack is gonna be his shark dive out of the puddle?
if possible yeah im going towards sonic battle move set


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 03:08:42 PM
Awesome! His side tilt could be his arm stretching forward. (I'm sure you're familiar w/ his sprites). What about smashes? The moves in the video has good moves, but still need to be placed in for specific moves for Brawl. :P


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 18, 2012, 03:18:56 PM
yeah this video gave me some more ideas for some of his moves for brawl  i really like the up b in the video
SSB4 Possibilities 48: Chaos Zero (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ytgePCSwqs#)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 03:28:26 PM
*enjoys music*

It's ok, but Ivy's up-B sucks. He misses the edge, and falls to his death. I always liked up-B's that move the character. :P


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 18, 2012, 03:32:14 PM
I think the video idea's are great, but I do not see Chaos being like Ivy's Up-B. It's a very unfair advantage for the other players


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 18, 2012, 03:34:07 PM
so far it one of the ideas for his up b also i could see him doing that also with his ability to stretch his arms


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 18, 2012, 05:45:58 PM
if hes going to be extremely heavy he should have a moving up special or his up special can be like yoshis when he uses it he can go up a little and no special fall for the arm extension


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 05:54:34 PM
If he does end up with an up-B like Ivysaur, then it better have some freakishly long grabbing/distance range. But again, moving Chaos as a whole seems less......kill myself-ish. I haven't thought of anything good for that yet, but I'll post an idea if I do.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 18, 2012, 06:22:39 PM
like i said idk for some of his b moves lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: GanonZack on September 18, 2012, 06:52:21 PM
For the down-b, in my opinion it would be cool if he transforms himself into a water ball and strikes the ground in front of him.
For the up-b, maybe he can do the spiral upper (Knuckles' move of SA2).


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 18, 2012, 06:55:47 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/gAC90.gif) since chaos is very stretchy and since no one was able to get that to look good on knuckles that could be a good down smash if his arm gets huge


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
I'd say his down smash should be..............

IDEA 1:  him holding his arms up, and then thrusting at the ground on both sides. Basically vBrawl DK's down smash.

IDEA 2: Like squirtle's up smash, but instead of his arms hitting the ground, it'll be like Gaara's "You're in the way" move from. Naruto: Clash of ninja 2 (GC). But it'll be a water effect, and shoot slightly outwards.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 18, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
in the old chaos thread i know they were planning out to have him like thrust his arms down and fountains appear on both sides


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Mareeo 64 on September 18, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
Whatever looks cool. :P


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 18, 2012, 07:57:44 PM
wat if his b down made him turn into a puddle, and ppl slip on him like they slip on bananas? lol sounds cool time me :D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: GanonZack on September 18, 2012, 08:00:19 PM
wat if his b down made him turn into a puddle, and ppl slip on him like they slip on bananas? lol sounds cool time me :D
But Chaos 0 isn't supposed to be a joking character  :>.>palm:


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 18, 2012, 08:07:20 PM
But Chaos 0 isn't supposed to be a joking character  :>.>palm:
not really a joke of an attack. Chaos can barely jump and is incredibly slow but its extendable limbs give it a much wider attack range than it appears to have, and has the highest attack power in the sonic adventure game. It can turn into a PUDDLE of water as usual, and can create fountains, tentacles, and orbs of water. ( I got this from wiki lol so the puddle parts not a joke)
i got 3 ideas that i also found on wiki http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos (http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos)
B down: Chaos Impact- a powerful ground punch that creates a small earthquake (like DK)
B right/left: Chaos Strike- a blue energy pulse that harms and confuses enemies, mabey it can have the same affect on ppl that shadows chaos spear does wen full blasted, it stuns u for a bit mabey?
Smash Ball: Chaos Bind- a move like luigis which freezes the air around the enemy

Post Merge: September 18, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
an epic taunt would be if he stuck both his arms out and a strip of water came out of one hand, went over his head, and then into the other hand xD and wat if u made him turn into a water cannon, like geno over rob, and shoot out a water ball for b sideways as an easter egg attack xD


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 19, 2012, 10:44:37 AM
this is what we had for the other project we had on him

STATS

Character Over -
Size - 5/10 Roughly the same height as lucario.
Walking speed 3/10 Pretty darn slow.
Running speed - 4/10 (The mechanics of his run are a bit different seeing as he'll be a puddle on the ground, so although he's not running much faster than he walks, he makes a difficult target.
Air speed - 4/10 still pretty darn slow, but faster than his walk
Combo Speed - 4/10 Slow, stretchy, cool looking :megusta:
Priority - 10/10 Should have some sweet freaking range.
Jump Height - 6/10
Power - 8/10 Nice power. Smashes defiantly pack a punch
Weight - 106(Heavy weight) Due to his weight, he should have a fairly high fall speed.

AAA Combo

A1 = arm stretches out a bit; but not quite as much as his grab or >Smash. He then smacks it into the ground and pulls it back, though the pull back does no damage 4-5 damage

A2 = The other arm does basically the same thing, during the retraction of the other arm 5-6 damage

A3 = He does the same thing again, you get the idea. Only this one has a slight bit more knockback, and is a bit quicker. 5-7 damage
Possible damage 14-18

SMASHES
>Smash = Slow startup, but arm stretches a long distance. Near 14 damage (mid knockback for smash)

vSmash = Remade all-together. He stretches out both hand above his head at an angle and smacks the ground on both sides.

^Smash = Smash hand into the ground creating a taller water spout directly in front of. Near 16 damage (mid/high knockback for smash)



Air Attacks
NeutralAair = He turns so that his stomach faces flat ground. He begins rotating his body, his arms stretch out a slight bit. (It has midspeed startup, and lasts a decent amount of time. It doesn't have much knockback at all, but it has decent range) damage/hits undecided; most likely 3 hits possible with 3-4 damage each

^Aair = I have no Idea

vAair = He smacks both hands together below him and gets a little boost upwards

>Aair = Basically the same as marios ">Aair" but with 2 hands and less possibility of spiking, considering it will be at more of an angle. There will be a sweet spot in 1-2 frames depending upon how it comes out. 12-15 damage

<Aair = A spin kick backwards (Think Sonics "^Aair" but slower, and facing sideways instead of upwards. Also a single hit instead of 2) Not all attacks can be stretchy, although it's the premise of the character there should be a few normal attacks. 8-10 damage


DashAttack - He jumps out of his puddle and dives right back into it. Though it's the dive that does that does the damage rather than the jumping out of. (7-8 damage) This attack has a cool down of 1.3 seconds after it's done so it can't be spammed. Note that he enters his run again right after the attack, unless of course you release the analog stick or move it in another direction.



SPECIALS
NeutralB = I have no idea

^B&^Bair = Similar to olimars, (able to grab ledges) except at a 90 degree angle; and with his stretchy arm (not plural, he uses one) rather then pikmin. (in the air, If it hits an opponent it does 5-7 damage, he pulls himself above them and does an immediate head jump. Making contact with the opponent re-enables the use of ^B) (On the ground it pulls the opponent down and smacks them into the ground (9-12 damage) Note that using the ^B in the air, should not disable any attacks in the air.
It should also push him up ashort distance and not begin falling until the arm begins to retract.
(Not sure if this is possible, though I will attempt it)

vB = I have no idea

vBair = In the air he enters ultra fast fall facing straight down diving into the ground. After hitting the ground he creates his puddle trap (Unless of course there is already one on the field as I have stated, Then he would just sink to the ground and stand back up)

>B - (Give me some ideas here too; I had originally thought to use the water ball from SonicBattle, but it's a complete and total waste of time and space.) I have no idea.


vA = I don't know yet because i'm not sure if he will crouch into a puddle yet, or just a regular crouch.
>A = Imagine similar to SDooms KidBuu
^A = Much like lucarios

Fall Attacks/Cliff Attacks = I'll get to those later.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 19, 2012, 03:10:46 PM
side b maybe he can stick his arm into the ground and 2 fountains will appear and start spinning each 1/4 size of final destination and for the dash attack if u wanna do the shark dive u should have him jump out of the puddle with perfect chaos' head unless u can get an actual shark model


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 19, 2012, 03:25:29 PM
side b maybe he can stick his arm into the ground and 2 fountains will appear and start spinning each 1/4 size of final destination and for the dash attack if u wanna do the shark dive u should have him jump out of the puddle with perfect chaos' head unless u can get an actual shark model
the dash sounds cool but i would have to get the perfect chaos model and re rig his head lol that why with all of the stuff im adding i want him over somebody with a lot of articals or file space


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 19, 2012, 04:18:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/CRorZ.png) crouch


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 19, 2012, 04:21:48 PM
lol i was thinking about that lol
also an idea for his aaa combo

(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs36/f/2008/272/0/d/chaos_0_attacking_by_deathseeker989.gif)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: XxTailsxX on September 19, 2012, 04:33:30 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LTGqT.gif) side b?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 19, 2012, 05:24:02 PM
For down B i think it would be cool if he turned into a puddle but hes an electric puddle like as in sonic X and ppl slip and gain small damage
oh and i found theese for ideas, i made them into 3-5 sec videos lol http://www.tubechop.com/watch/544318 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/544318) and  this http://www.tubechop.com/watch/544324 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/544324)
as special or u can find a way to make it a balanced B attack maybe? lol ill look for more stuffz
Also, if his running animation is him in puddle he shuldnt be un hitable, mabey a puddel with a head sticking out cuz not one character in ssbb has a move that allows u to not get hit, even kirbys B down is grabable so try to make him balanced plz :D

running: http://www.tubechop.com/watch/546003 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/546003)
B sideways: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/ChaosNeutralB-1.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/ChaosNeutralB-1.gif)
oh and i think it would be cool if chaos crawl was him in a complete puddle
A down: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0-1.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0-1.gif)
Crawling Dash: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0CDA.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0CDA.gif)
A up: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/ChaosUpSmash.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/ChaosUpSmash.gif)
A down in air: http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0D-air.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0D-air.gif)
and i got all this stuffz from here xD http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7243129&postcount=1143 (http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7243129&postcount=1143)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 19, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
([url]http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0D-air.gif[/url])
i have that attack as his down a air 

also check out the first page for the original move set list it may change over time for chaos


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 19, 2012, 06:16:25 PM
did u like any of my ideas? i liked the B sideways idea :D and i modified my post to make it better :D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 19, 2012, 06:26:29 PM
there ok i like some i have the down a air animation done so just need think on the rest with the people in this project


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: GanonZack on September 19, 2012, 06:29:13 PM
Hm... For his side-b, maybe he can make the special attack of Ruby from Rampage 2: Universal Tour (N64). I couldn't find a preview or video, but if you can try the game....
Well, anyway, the attack of Ruby consists in having her rolling or rotating in her own axis (like Metaknight with his neutral-b) while she has her arms and tongs extended and you have to control where she goes with the attack (She can only go to the right or left).


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 19, 2012, 08:09:09 PM
i think this would be the best running animation http://www.tubechop.com/watch/546003 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/546003) and his crawling culd be him moveing in a puddle of water, and then his crawling dash culd be this http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0CDA.gif (http://i514.photobucket.com/albums/t346/dancingfrogman/Chaos0CDA.gif)
but those are my opinions 8) Its up to leon to make an awesome psa, but like i said before i hope he is always hitable at some point because not one character in the game has a move that allows u to be unhitable, except for shield, because everyone can do that. lol :p OH lol, like how yoshi has an egg shield u shuld give him a water ball shield :D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: ShadowWolf on September 20, 2012, 08:30:37 PM
So Leon, who is chaos definitely going over?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 20, 2012, 09:51:42 PM
So Leon, who is chaos definitely going over?
did you get my message about the person i was thinking over but i still dont know lol all these ideas i want but still dont know who it will fit better over


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 22, 2012, 10:46:06 AM
Over peach! REPLACE HER ALREADY! xD


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 22, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
im not going to replace here because my frends use he way to much lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 22, 2012, 09:35:33 PM
im not going to replace here because my frends use he way to much lol
hahaha kk, i think who ever u put it over ill port it over zelda cuz i dont like her :p but good luck and start on him soon :D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 22, 2012, 09:41:12 PM
well right now im taking a break from brawl modding for about a week or two


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 is up next also some more bomberman
Post by: rax189 on September 22, 2012, 10:44:45 PM
well right now im taking a break from brawl modding for about a week or two
Thats good, we dont want u getting bored on him or ull get lazy and make it less awesome just to get it done with xD thats wat i would do


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: rax189 on September 25, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
ok cool cant wait for chaos but who is he over or you still dont know
It will be over sonic, so everyone will hate porting it :D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: sonic and Knuckles on September 26, 2012, 12:54:22 PM
It will be over sonic, so everyone will hate porting it :D
i dont think its over sonic lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: GabbaGhoul on September 27, 2012, 09:03:12 PM
You do realize I'll most definitely still be working on this project right?
The only reason I stopped was because of continuous difficulty with the model.

As I recall, the elbows weren't movable/rotatable -
That being said, it was tremendously difficult to make a clean cut animation.
Meaning it was a [censored] and a half to get his arms stretched out to look decent.
While it also was a problem in the walk animation, it just looked awkward.

I never did release the re-texture pack with edited model officially because of
said problem, and the fact Alba never got the csps made. If you could provide
me a link to our previous topic, that would be awesome - Because I do need
to retrieve some files from that pack. And possibly release that collab pack as is.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 27, 2012, 09:20:07 PM
You do realize I'll most definitely still be working on this project right?
The only reason I stopped was because of continuous difficulty with the model.

As I recall, the elbows weren't movable/rotatable -
That being said, it was tremendously difficult to make a clean cut animation.
Meaning it was a [censored] and a half to get his arms stretched out to look decent.
While it also was a problem in the walk animation, it just looked awkward.

I never did release the re-texture pack with edited model officially because of
said problem, and the fact Alba never got the csps made. If you could provide
me a link to our previous topic, that would be awesome - Because I do need
to retrieve some files from that pack. And possibly release that collab pack as is.
the new model it looks fine to me the elbows work and everthing lol but ill send you a link


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 06, 2012, 04:01:18 PM
Leon, send me the animations you want me to make. Also, send me the idea's you want me to do for them. I'm back from my break and I can help now


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: Mareeo 64 on October 06, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
Yesh! Dis vil be epiic! ;D Now I'm positive Chaos will come out perfect.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 07, 2012, 08:33:50 AM
Right now, my main priority is to get Amy started then to get Chaos 0 finished. I'm gonna work on him but Amy might get my attention a little more


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: SonicBrawler on October 07, 2012, 11:25:01 AM
Right now, my main priority is to get Amy started then to get Chaos 0 finished. I'm gonna work on him but Amy might get my attention a little more

ForstyMM is going to be the main psaer. we can animate and psa a bit, but right now he is working on a few other psa's but we can start


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 07, 2012, 11:30:42 AM
Alright good. Send me the animations you want me to do


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 09, 2012, 11:07:50 AM
Alright good. Send me the animations you want me to do
ok i did one animation done but you can tweak it to make it look better


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (taking a 2 week break)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:05:16 PM
Yeah. I'm not sure if I can make the wait to ask someone who might be able to


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
ok its cool i already did the down a air also sence sa2b cam out we can remake some of those animations in brawl 


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:20:03 PM
ok its cool i already did the down a air also sence sa2b cam out we can remake some of those animations in brawl 
Yeah just sit in two player and observe lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:26:27 PM
Yeah just sit in two player and observe lol
but hey its a way to get new animations and moves lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
Yeah but he has the same glide as knuckles in that game. We shouldn't add that lol. It wouldn't make any sense.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:30:55 PM
Yeah but he has the same glide as knuckles in that game. We shouldn't add that lol. It wouldn't make any sense.
it is one of his moves the he can do i would not mind adding that as like a nother recovery or something like how peach does


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:32:48 PM
it is one of his moves the he can do i would not mind adding that as like a nother recovery or something like how peach does
I like the glide, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's more of Knuckles move. Plus, chaos only has the glide in SA2 just so he can compete with Knuckles, and Rouge


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:35:35 PM
I like the glide, but I wouldn't recommend it. It's more of Knuckles move. Plus, chaos only has the glide in SA2 just so he can compete with Knuckles, and Rouge
lol yeah also the other one has it to i think her name is tikal lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:38:28 PM
lol yeah also the other one has it to i think her name is tikal lol
Yeah I was gonna say her too but I didn't know how to spell her name lol. But other than that, chaos basically has a whole bunch of attack that involves stretching his arms


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:42:42 PM
that game has some good aminations like the waiting , walking, and the running


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:46:02 PM
that game has some good aminations like the waiting , walking, and the running
Yeah that will be the most useful for the animations. Speaking of which, do you need anything done like CSS wise? I know Anivernage made that sexy CSP ;D but what about names, icons and stuff?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 13, 2012, 12:55:44 PM
Yeah that will be the most useful for the animations. Speaking of which, do you need anything done like CSS wise? I know Anivernage made that sexy CSP ;D but what about names, icons and stuff?
i have the names and Anivernage made one csp but i need some css icons even tho im not a big fan of brawl box pics some look good


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 13, 2012, 12:57:28 PM
i have the names and Anivernage made one csp but i need some css icons even tho im not a big fan of brawl box pics some look good
I'll make an icon for you. I will use his CSP for a base to make it so send me a blank icon you want and his CSP that he made


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 14, 2012, 12:19:44 PM
I'll make an icon for you. I will use his CSP for a base to make it so send me a blank icon you want and his CSP that he made
ok cool ill send you them when i can


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: SonicBrawler on October 14, 2012, 12:21:29 PM
yay bomberman


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 14, 2012, 12:22:09 PM
yay bomberman
yeah we still need to do a final smash for it lol


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - chaos 0 and bomberman V0.5 (I'm Back)
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 17, 2012, 06:54:55 PM
lol Bomberman was fun until other projects came up. Maybe a revamp and upgrade in the future?


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 17, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
http://youtu.be/RIzWFezoq8U (http://youtu.be/RIzWFezoq8U)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: SwingSet on October 18, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
Dat is amazing! :srs:


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: ShadowWolf on October 18, 2012, 06:43:26 PM
The Walker is getting a custom model to so it will look great in game ;D


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: Leon Exodio on October 19, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
The Walker is getting a custom model to so it will look great in game ;D
still not sure what he should do when he is in his final smash

Next psa after tails????
Sonic Heroes in Brawl ??? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzbGqzUhIjI#ws)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: Leon Exodio on November 07, 2012, 04:19:23 PM
go here to see my other thread this is out dated but i may someday come back to it

http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=49127.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=49127.0)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: XChosenOne1 on November 07, 2012, 06:37:52 PM
I think Chaos would be better on wario (Since i don't like him)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: Leon Exodio on November 07, 2012, 06:40:25 PM
yeah this thread is not going not where but ill still up date it time and time but i do like it to be over wario and or metaknight


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: XChosenOne1 on November 07, 2012, 06:44:37 PM
yeah this thread is not going not where but ill still up date it time and time but i do like it to be over wario and or metaknight
Even though the thread hardly went anywhere at least it still up to date ;)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: Leon Exodio on November 09, 2012, 12:49:43 PM
go here (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=53229.0) to see my model import thread i may use some of the model i import at a future psa


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Projects - Tails Preview ??
Post by: SSBCFan1996 on November 11, 2012, 03:42:43 AM
I think Chaos 0 should be over Marth since no-one probably has many projects over   or even use him in  that much  in general I have Sephiroth over him but  I hardly use him but it ok if you wanna over the character you want I like him over Marth doe, since I dont wanna get rid of my SMBZ Luigi, Majin Buu back (Lucario) making a Bomberman SSBC style over Ness  temporary I have Yosemite Sam over Ness  :srs:   I have Tails over MetaKnight SSF2 Wario and Broly over Ganondorf until South finishs it.


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port
Post by: Leon Exodio on August 19, 2013, 05:15:55 AM
i forgot all about this thread i know that i share a thread with shadowwolf and sonicbrawler but i have psa that im working on my self right now im porting the  Juri psa that was over sheik over to pikachu with Kagemaru permission to port the psa

also sonic heroes is done!!
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33841 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33841)


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port/Sonic Heores Done!!
Post by: Mareeo 64 on August 22, 2013, 06:54:34 AM
Ness has a lack of psa representation. plus, (for me at least) i have both wario and marth already filled. lol totally your chioce though


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port/Sonic Heores Done!!
Post by: Leon Exodio on August 22, 2013, 10:13:32 AM
i have nobody over pikachu ght now so that who she will go over as for ness i may have zero ported over to ness but not sure


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port/Sonic Heores Done!!
Post by: Mareeo 64 on August 22, 2013, 11:38:17 AM
well, either way it should work


Title: Re: Leon Exodio's Psa Thread -Juri psa port/Sonic Heores Done!!
Post by: Leon Exodio on September 07, 2013, 04:08:32 PM
im almost done porting the Juri psa over to pikachu just the down b counter wont work but im trying to fix it