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 Ah, finally! Perhaps I can be in charge of creating CSPs? Also, why not take the Lucario previews from the old thread?

The new lucario has blue eyes instead of red, and I want all of my previews to be 100% accurate.

If you want to do CSPs then be my guest. Only, I request that you make brawl CSP recolors in addition to any other CSP styles you do.

I've already made a P:M mirage roy CSP.
(http://i.imgur.com/dZAO56y.png)

Granted, yours would probably look better; feel free to make another.

Something new to start the new thread:

looks good. try switching the color of the overalls with the shirt.

 To follow NoFun's lead:

*Quietly watches this thread*

[Im very proud of you all, you made it worth it... ]

It seems like you're a big brother to me now, scout.
I haven't the slightest clue why.

I care for Mirage more than everyone thinks I do, when I started hacking, the mirage project was the first project I ever joined. And since my color blindness affect the purple side, its a personal achievement.

In fact, tell you what, I'll take it back... I'll work for mirage:

I did this way back when I just started stage hacking, I was new to the scene.

I'm going for a vacation tomorrow, and I shall return August 8. If this mirage project is still alive or finished by then, I'm going to revamp this stage with all the knowledge I acquired until know. I will toss in some Smash 3 stuff into it too, and it will be the stage that I put the most effort into.

If mirage dies again, I'll delete this stage from the vault.

Sounds like a deal?

I proceeded to announce Mirage fans on smashboards about the new project mirage.

 My Kirby ideas.

The second one doesn't feel so mirage.

As for the first one... the first one nailed the pallete style. I need to see it in game though, For saturation.

I changed Luigi's colors a bit, but still, I liked the original texture.

So I gave it to Mario:

I like them both a lot, but luigi usually has his hat and shirt the same color. I understand that you don't want him to look too much like the waluigi skin so try making his hat black while keeping the L purple.

As for Mario, he looks good, but he seems a bit dark. Try making his shirt a lighter shade of purple.

A possible mario alt could be to make his hat and pants purple, his shirt white with a purplish tinge like smash 64 link, and his shoes black.

Seriously though, you're kind of a natural it this.



I really don't know what to say about Lucas. Maybe black shoes, indigo socks, grey pants, midnight blue and light gray stripes?

Guys! Don't be afraid to use a more red shade of purple! You don't have to be bound by the pallet shown in the OP, as some characters use more reds than blues.

I took a shot at Peach

(http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/350-dude.png)

Dat blue on the bottom of the dress seems knda off, other than that it awesome.

Okay, then what color should I make it? And thanks!

I think making the rest of the dress that same color will fix it.

I noticed a bit of green trim in the lower part of the dress, make that part gold and give her some more gold accents in the upper part of the dress and try not to distract from the main dress color.

Like so?

Yes. Peach is a princess and she deserves to look royal while she's kicking butt.

I wouldn't change the colour of her gloves. The default colours are all white, the black makes it look really off. The top part of her dress (the black part) seems off too, I'd change that to a lighter purple.

And generally, lighten up the colours a bit. Peach is a really bright and more "friendly" character, the darker colours throw that off I think.

When I left the gloves white, it contrasted heavily with the rest of her dress, so I made them black. The colors are dark to fit the theme of the project more effectively. I made her a dark dress  because a light Purple seemed like a simple recolor, and same for Cyan. I made her eyes Cyan-ish though.

 I just want to go off-topic and say, I love your entrances, and your avatar makes it so much better XD.

I've got an idea, make the purple parts of the dress a lighter shade, and make the middle parts of the dress white.
This way, you can change the color of the gloves back to their default colors.
Also, if you desaturate the purples some, they shouldn't clash with the white.

Though I am not a fan of it, is this okay?

Cool. Do you have a way to take pics in game? I think previews are all that's left right now, and change it if you don't like it. I just wanted a general idea

I like it better than before. The colour still feels kinda off, maybe the purple is too saturated? Or maybe it's too pink? Maybe just a slight shift towards blue will work a bit better.

Also, the bit of her shirt part on her hip (between the black folds) should be the same colour as the top half, since it's connected.

And finally, the really dark spots on the bottom of the dress look really off, the shadows should be more dark purple than complete black.

Hey guys, I decided to revamp my PM Snake once more. Im trying to give him a better cyber-base camo design
I think I should make him a bit darker. This is actually a very early attempt. I think I'll fix up the colors a bit in the next version.

 Loving that Snake, although, I liked the PM print style better.

Back to working on DK Revamped

can i do another one for Peach? Or the rule is just one user hack for each character?

anybody can hack any character, even if it's already being worked on.


I would suggest making his skin its default color, since the color doesn't really change in brawl.

I picked up R.O.B, expect previews soon.

Not gonna lie, I greatly prefer the first version of Mirage Snake over all the other attempts you've made so far. If I were you I'd stick with the first one because it's that good imo.


Try making the fur a slightly desaturated midnight blue and the tie indigo, and then revert the letters back to "DK" and give them a yellow outline. I think the P:M looks too tacked on and out of place.

hello guys, i see the new thread is going on now, i'm sorry for derailing from the original one, i only showed incompetence by doing so and i feel ashamed, but seeing you all wanting to let the project go on makes me happy and confident
DEM MARIO BROS., JUST YES! and that Snake with the digi-camo, i know it shouldn't be a real camouflage, but it just gives him a fancytastic look

i'm back to keep helping, and i was thinking of an idea for a post, which i'm going to explain now

What are you guys favorite mirage characters done so far and why?
the purpose of this is to see what characters people like the most and take as possible molds, chosen by majority, and know their opinion about their concept of this project, same goes for the next question:

What do you think X character needs/should have in their Mirage form and why?

i hope these question don't cause any chaos, let's go share points of view, starting with mine:

because both just share the same colors, and the combinations of colors are well placed and balanced, though they don't stop looking like the characters they are, Sheik looks more ninja-like with that dark outfit, ready to sneak at midnight, and Zelda still looks like a member of royalty with a gothic touch

so, What are yours? :)

my favorite would have to be NoFun's Links.
Both of them.

And I'm still working on R.O.B. it's taking a while because life.

Well, how's this:


Also a small experiment:

My favorite would have to be Dio's first Mirage Snake, hands down.


Second would be NoFun's alternative Mirage Bowser.

R.O.B



the Luigi looks great, but now Mario looks like waluigi and that's the main problem to avoid.
as for Zamus, I trust you on that one.

I'm going to start revamping Mirage stadium tomorrow, question tho:

I'm only doing one version. Witch do you prefer the most to use as base?

The violet one?

Or the purple one?

I think purple would make for a better base

XenoZoa I appreciate your love/criticism for my original Snake and its always welcome, but im always trying to see if I can make a bit better using a more apparent texture.
I'll try one last revamp for Snake. Sorry I keep going back to him I just keep thinking im missing a key detail to making him a really great texture. :/ Maybe im just overthinking him.
Well here my last attempt. Its still WIP but I hope the texture is to everyones liking or at least to enough people.

Gonna be bluntly honest. I don't and never have understood this project and it's point.

if you saw the original Mars, Maritime and Minty projects, this is pretty much the same, just that we're going for a mainly-Purple version of the characters, made by everyone who would like to help and give feedback; all based and inspired on Project M thanks to the combination of colors it sports inside the menu screens and other interface assets.

I use projects like these as filler costumes for cBliss till the LST releases their textures, if they are still working on it.

It just feels too forced imo, not natural enough or a tad too gimmicky. Have you tried messing around with hexagons or military digital square pixels?


I think it's among the worst of the bunch tbh. No hard feelings Obskore, just my opinion.

So, I made a mirage fox salt that's purple and black instead of purple and white for those of us that favor a darker color scheme. Hoping to have in-game previews soon. It might not be this week cause I'm going to a pm tourney on Friday.

Alright...

Test No. 420:

One of these days I'm going to revamp my Doc texture. It needs it badly, plus I can work with the P:M model now.

My only gripe is the PM logo and the helmet, since Falcon's colors dont ever match his helmet.
While we're on the subject... Obskore can I have your permission to v2 your Falcon?

Anyway back to Snake.
Xeno, funny how you mention that, I've been playing Megaman X5 recently and noticed how cool the ending stages are;
(http://i44.tinypic.com/260rdz8.jpg)
The border of the stages would make for some pretty cool camo but I'll put it on hold for now and try working on someone else.

Those actually do look pretty cool, but feel more "cyber" than "mirage", you know?

I might also redo my Samus, and definitely my ZSS, which was pretty lazy.

And I might just try my hands on Falcon as well, just to see which one people would prefer.

someone else see a large troll image warning?

I see it too, Scout.

Good... good.

sure you can. i'll admit i just went ham when i introduced the "patterns", makes me feel a little shameful honestly, so it's ok if you want to remake him without my mistakes.
i'll try to come up with something by this weekend, give Wolf a retouch with the pallette Xeno provided and pick an open character to work on.

in other news, there's a Project M announcement today @CEO2014 :3 http://redd.it/27a94c (http://redd.it/27a94c) (i don't know how to post a word or text to be a link)

Like so:


Project M announcement today @CEO2014 (http://redd.it/27a94c)

Hmm it was normal when I posted it. Ah well I killed it with fire.

Ya I know. but Mirage doesnt really mean anything in terms of color. I use the word "cyber" to describe PM's menu without the influence of the project. To say the game has a "mirage' style to it wont make sense to someone who as never heard of project mirage.
Its all really the same thing, im just speaking in terms of the texture, not color.

Like, basically he camo will be cyber-themed while its color scheme will mirage-themed. I hope that makes sense.

And dammit, Xenozoa is challenging my texturing skills...

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Guys...I [censored]ing love OoT/Melee Ganondorf

(http://i.imgur.com/2xGjkG2.png)

 So, DK in-game. Should his fur still be saturated? Also, I will change the tie's logo back to "DK".

Fur seems too saturated yeah. Try and make it midnight blue and the tie indigo/purple.

Heres what I started so far. Pretty simple but  I think I'll try to incorporate more of the secondary colors like Gold and Coffee, mainly for the boots or/and gloves.

Maybe a gold scarf since I think the white kinda drains the attention of the whole texture on screen.
Trying to keep the helmet a tone off like the brawl default ones. I should also see about Mars, Minty and Maritime and see how they did the helmets.


Im also feeling more black trim on the boots. I'll take more pictures later so you can see it in different lighting from stages.

Yoinks! I've been gone for awhile....


That's it! I love it. What does everyone else think?


He does that with everyone. Notice that I'm still working on Ike.
falcon seems too monotone. And I hate that helmet.

I love the Mario Bros. texture. Excellent work. And I have to remake my Mirage Peach as I seem to have misplaced her textures.

A xenozoa seal of approval is an important thing...

Last pictures before release:


I want to know which one is your favorite:

they both look good. I personally prefer the ZSS on the left.

as for the Mario bros. before you release them, plz darken the gloves by about 10 points.
it just that it looks like your looking at the sun. :p

@ZSS: I'd say go in between white and that shade of grey, but with a very small amount of blue as well.

Okay guys, a small update on why I haven't been able to get in game previews: I misplaced my SD card reader and now I need to buy a new one. Once I have that, previews for everyone! (yay!!)

Also, since lucario is a blue Pokemon, I feel like his mirage needs to be shifted away from red and more towards the blue side. Will do that.

I've made a darker fox alternate because reasons.

Rob looks okay as I haven't gotten previews for him yet. I tried to base him on the purple GameCube but I added gold gears and such.

Edit: I'm going to base him completely on the indigo GameCube.

I noticed Mewtwo wasn't taken. I am taking him them. Also, this is my Mirage Mewtwo as of right now.
I am not too sure how to make Mewtwo more mirage than he is, so I made his tail more purple and put a slight tint of purple over his whole body. If you guys have an idea for Mewtwo, let me know.

well, it happened again. This is the second time an anti virus nuked my work.

no complaints, I just have to start everything over. minor setback.

ok Martyr, that Mewtwo just looks almost like the default color, what we're going on with mostly, is giving darker color schemes to the characters.
what i think you can do, is look up some other darker or purple Pokémon or other similar characters and use it as inspiration, but like someone said before, the bad thing is that Mewtwo has only 2 color options: body and tail, so, choose wisely


aw that's bad, maybe you should start working while having backups on a USB or something. Did you upload something prior to that? by any chance?

In addition, DON'T MAKE MEWTWO A GRAPE.

Honestly, it irks me beyond my hatred for spies. You have to make him feel natural you know? The scheme is fine as it is, you know have to add some sort of unique factor into it.

I did a thing.


Whipped it up in about an hour. Still need to fix a few things. Really iffy on the scarf, can't seem to find the "right" color. Cyan and blue don't look right, and neither does indigo or magenta. I think yellow/gold is probably the best bet for now, because it gives him a little bit of warmth, but if all else fails a light grey might do the trick.

ye, that thing is neat
imo, a desaturated brown or wine scarf would fit nice while still giving him that bit f warmth you want (after all it's a scarf, get it?)
i already feel like making a Smash 3 version out of that!

btw, when the mirage samus revamp starts, do you think using Dark Samus as inspiration could work?

I kinda like the yellow scarf tbh. And I actually might revert the belts back to brown so that the contrast to the black and purple is more distinguishable, cause they blend into the body too much as is.

I can try and do a Dark Samus-esque revamp for Samus, but I won't make any guarantees that it'll look good.

So heres my Falcon. Finally found time to post it up.
As I said said, I decided to go with more of the gold and brown accents. Looks far less monotone. I tweaked the helmet only slightly since I really feel the helmet should maintain at least a hint of red, but im not married to the idea. I was thinking blue might be better... I tried brown for the helmet but..eh...ugh...

I have some a few gripes about it but nothing major, I'm mainly curious what you guys think.


  

 Well Dio, I love the fact that you took Brawl's color scheme for him and went with a reddish color for his helmet to work with the purple. However, I am not sure how the inside color plays into all of this. I can see that it matches with the helmet and suit, but it downright clashes in my opinion. Both parts of this gloves stray too far apart in color to seem to work together for a "Mirage" feel. Now, I myself am not too experienced with matching certain colors and what looks best where, but I wanted to give you feed back on my pov. Those are my only gripes about this.

So then... shall we put it to a vote?

Obskore vs Xenozoa vs Dio

Dio's Falcon just doesn't look mirage enough, he has purple on his suit, but that's not all he needs. I'm not sure about how to explain but, he's lacking a dark feeling, it doesn't blend with the rest of characters done so far
Xeno's looks nice enough, but if he wants to tweak it, then ok
i think i'll remake mine without the dumb patterns and let the people vote if they agree with it

speaking of Falcon...

I know it looks similar to original Mewtwo, but I wanted to mainly just say I am taking him and attemting him. He is tricky to do, considering he is already purple. I just did a slight change because it is a tricky project to attemt IMO.
I never wanted him to look like a grape. The way Mewtwo is designed makes him hard to re-color, but I had some ideas and wanted to consult with the group before I attemt them.
1. There still is Armored Mewtwo. We could do something with the armor, but I really want an original Mirage Mewtwo but if we have to use Armored Mewtwo, give me an idea.
2. I had the idea of giving him a texture similar to Mirage Snake's grid design(I might not make it a grid, maybe like hexagons or something) to add a little flavor to make him "pop" if you will.
Thoughts?

 Okay, you don't have to have purple as a primary color. Your options for Mewtwo's tail are violet, midnight, and/or black to give it a mirage feeling. For his main body, I suggest giving a light tint of blue, gray, or simply leave as the purple tint. Coffe or charcoal are good colors for the armor. 

Don't add a grid or any pattern to him, that'll make it "pop", just not in a good way.

I remember someone (Xeno?) suggesting something like this for Mewtwo, but no one ever did it:
It takes inspiration from Shadow Lugia's colour scheme, so you can incorporate that to make it really different from the default. I think it's worth trying it, at least.


I like yours Xeno. Dio's is nice too, though!

Boy you guys dont skip a beat do you? I was still fixing up mine!
But I guess this'll be the last version then. So ok I fixed up the tones, I realized how much my Falcon was kinda looking like the N64 Falcon so I scrapped gold accents and went for a more blended look.

I decided to go with cooler colors all around and I finally managed to get in game pics. I should say that I made the body a bit bluer then the pics suggest but its only a tad so its only just noticeable. So ya here it is;

I like the way that the helmet looks with the purple on the outfit this time around; falcon just seems better. quick notes: something should be done with the forearms and boots, the scarf is a big no-no, and the cyan on the inside of the collar distracts from the rest of the costume and takes away from the overall feel.

Not gonna lie though, Falcon is one of the harder characters to do (like IKE *ahem*), so I'm not complaining.

speaking of Ike, I just can't seem to figure out the right saturation/lightning balance for Ike's boots. Not to worry. the last update was completely wiped, so now I get to start a clean slate with better textures. LETS GO!

Three captns?  Interesting

This ship ain't big enough for the three of us after all.

So just found this on goggle;
Thought it was kinda funny since the color scheme looks very much like my own.
Looking at this picture It seems going with a lighter scarf might have been the way to go.

Made a couple small adjustments to hue and light/darkness in some parts.

(http://i.imgur.com/wSo1qNm.jpg)

I have a download link set up already (including portraits) but will not post it nor upload it on the Vault unless it gets the green light from Obskore.

it's allright, me likes, it looks soooo cool, you got the perfect vibe :D
downloading ASAP
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/725/156/54e.jpg)

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205206 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205206)

http://www.dropbox.com/s/wyq2iy6wn51glpk/Mirage%20Captain%20Falcon%20Alternative.zip (http://www.dropbox.com/s/wyq2iy6wn51glpk/Mirage%20Captain%20Falcon%20Alternative.zip)

There ya go.

Mario and Luigi uploaded:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205259 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205259)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205260 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205260)

EDIT: I made a CSP in case anyone wants it:

(http://i.imgur.com/kFdoqCm.png)(http://i.imgur.com/J11Zsdd.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/sF95yl3.png)

 I made one for NoFun's Luigi in case anyone wants it.

Okay, been working on Mirage Mewtwo and I have some things to say, and show.
First, the Shadow Lugia inspired Mewtwo has basically already been made. (Vibrant Mewtwo's Midnight Alternate Skin)
Also, I took others ideas and it is becoming an odd project to work with. Here are some things I have came up with. I wanted to put a little more purple tint around the whole body, but it just looks more black IMO. If we want to use white, we could put a lot more purple on Mewtwo to make it stick out(Like White 2), but someone dislikes the idea of making him a "grape.". Also, his head and body are two separate textures, so if we want more color diversity, we can use that. I wanted to throw around an idea of a "shadow" inspired Mirage Mewtwo because of the suggestion, so here you go.
And for an Armored Mewtwo, I really don't want to resort to it because Armored Mewtwo is not any of the team colors, so to have one team's Mewtwo stick out is not right IMO.
Now that I have everything I currently have on for show, thoughts?

It doesn't have to be pure black, you can just have it as a dark and desaturated purple. In fact that's what I did with my Falcon. All the "black" parts are the same color as his main body, just desaturated and much darker.

I agree though that purple/midnight blue should be the main focus, but you can only do so much with base Mewtwo.

So I got around to remaking Peach's texture. Whatchya think?
(http://i.imgur.com/S8wuCZ9.png)

I'm supposed to do a stage now huh?


 :srs: :srs:

A promise is a promise.

So peach, good or no?

I cannot judge colours, sorry... I am not good with this.

I don't particularly like it, nor do I hate it. Maybe try white gloves instead of black? And desaturate the purple on the dress, it seems a bit too bright?

I like grey 1, grey 2, and the last one for Mewtwo. However, the black on Mewtwo will not translate well into brawl. The same goes to pure white. Too dark and only Dolphin can pick up any detail, too bright and any light source, like FD, will cast a greenish glow over it. That and it'd be an eyesore. You don't have the latter.

As for Peach, I agree with Xeno. Also, white gloves are consistent throughout all her recolors.

Updated the OP

Edit: updated the OP again with some polish and a little fun under the "stages" tab.

could somebody upload previews of the slightly tweeked lucario and fox textures plz and thnx?

Oh hahah!

Yeah sure, gonna start soon.

I promise one of these days I'm gonna get off of my lazy [censored] and finish the costumes that I've started.
I should be getting another computer on monday or tuesday, so no more work nukes  :srs:

I stared on Mirage Stadium!


So far, I painted one texture... nut its a start!

So I've been working on a Mirage Purin based off of her Melee Bow.
Will post screenies REALLY soon. (like, after I reboot into my gaming system)

I can dig it.

NICE!
the bow looks a little weird though, but the eyes give an nice touch
could you like, make versions for all her different hats? including the C. Falcon helmet mod the other projects did it, the flower one would give a little more range o colors to choose from

Maybe. :>.>: And yes, it does look awkward. It's not the actual bow from Melee :(

hallelujah!! I finally got my own computer and now I should have no problems ever again with anything stupid.

I just got it today, so I'm still downloading necessary files and components for doing things that I want to do. In addition to that I have to re-download everything that I already had that wasn't backed up.

It's a start though, so what have I started? Mirage R.O.B, Mirage Ike (yes still. you can thank xeno for that), Mirage Olimar, Mirage Wolf, and Mirage Ice Climbers.

Regarding olimar, I started working on him in secret so that someone else can work on him first, so if anyone still wants to work on him feel free to do so.

As for wolf, I asked obskore if I could work on him personally, him being one of my favorite characters to play.
Unfortunately, he was one of the files that I don't remember backing up which is okay since I didn't do anything to him yet. I still have the linked file so I'll just re-download that and start from there.

Edit: I just put my SD card into my computer and I came across some goodies.


Eh? Eh? Eh? whaddaya think?

I already have Ikes entire upper body planned but the lower body is still being worked on.

Edit2: Updated OP with previews of the new fox.

Updated OP with lucario previews.

no updates? :notimp: not impressed.

Triple posting like a boss so prepare yourself.

I took pictures on various stages to get a feel of how they would look under different lighting conditions and I must say, they look rather nice.

Changelog:

• the boot color was nudged 9 points towards red.
• the violet on the tunic was nudged 5 points towards red

Long changelog is LOOOOONNNNGGGG:

• I changed the color of the boots very slightly. I had to nudge the main colors 9 points towards red, while the details was shifted 9 points towards blue. This was done to prevent there being too many different shades of the same color violet. (I also had to do this with Ike)
• I also changed the pad on his pants to be purple instead of blue so that it could better tie the boots with the upper body.
• I had to change the shoulder pad from black to purple cause black looked bad, blue would've been an overload, and purple seemed to be the only other color that would work.
• The trim on the shoulder pads was changed from dark grey to light grey
• The shirt was made purple because grey made him look shirtless.
• The P:M logo was removed from the gloves
• The jacket was made slightly darker to balance the overall look of the costume
• The trim on the jacket was changed from black to light grey to be consistent with the rest of the stripes
• The sleeve was changed from black to a dark and desaturated blue because reasons.

whew. that was a lot of typing.

Looking good.

Not bad

Ok, worked on Mirage Mewtwo, and this is the idea I came up with. This is not final. Thoughts?

So are Wolf and Ike clear for upload?

The purple does seem a bit too bright and saturated on both of them, but other than that I like them both.

Getting previews on edited Ike and Wolf by thursday.

 The jumpers are completely black as shown down in the texture file below. For some strange reason, Wario gets all glitchy and looks very odd in BB and becomes all messed up in game, so I have to use the old one as a preview. I may just restart my laptop or something

(http://i.imgur.com/nQ1iiVN.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ylFKBav.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/l9zKYHF.gif)

 Seal of disapproval  :srs: must work harder! 

For Ike:
Maybe change the hair texture and eye textures back to their defaults if you messed with them? Can't quite tell from the screens, but it looks like his hair is more purple.
Maybe change the colour of the boots to be more like his shoulder pad / chest pad thing too, a bit more brown would look quite good on this texture I think.
And finally as Xeno said, tweak the saturation.

For Wario:
First of all, don't change Wario's logo to that old M. P:M doesn't even use that logo anymore, so it'd be unfitting to use such an old thing for a Project M recolour project.

Second, is the goal of this texture to make a purple Wario costume, or a black one? This applies to a few other textures in the Mirage series, you guys should choose a main colour and make it stick out. As a good example, on PK-Thunder's Ike, at a glance you can clearly tell it's a purple Ike since there are no competing colours, and the other colours there (brown, blue) are subtle and help compliment the main body. With Wario, the purple and black are very similar, making neither stick out. The shoes should be a different colour too, you can barely tell they're separate.

Finally, make sure not to add random bits of white into the texture as well. It sticks out yes, but not in a good way. It's bringing more attention to the white bits than the rest of the texture as it is now.

For reference, here are the Brawl colours:
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081214051409/ssb/images/9/93/Alt-wario2.jpg)

Notice how the colour of the shirt and overalls are different, yet contrast well in a way that they compliment each other? Try a colour that isn't black on the overalls, and maybe brighten up the purple on his shirt / cap a bit.

awww snap, it's taiko.

I didn't mess with the hair color or the eye color, as that wouldn't give it an "official" feeling.
I've noticed that ike's blue, red, and default skins have slightly different hair colors and I think I used default. But if it's an issue, I can change the hair to better match without making it look like it's unofficial.

As for the brown idea (here we go again), I'll make another Ike similar to this one with your suggestion and compare the two.

I'll have previews of both by tomorrow.

Edit: OK. I  desaturated both wolf and Ike's purple by 30 points each and they do look fabulous.


as for the tan Ike idea: in order for it to work, I would have to completely rebalance the color scheme by shifting colors around. While I don't really mind doing that, I would much rather finish the one I'm working on first.

bump.

clear for upload or no?

I guess if the tan is really difficult to implement then you're good to go. Both look much better than before!

Mirage Wolf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/1z1n045yat15orx/Mirage_Wolf.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1z1n045yat15orx/Mirage_Wolf.zip)

Mirage Ike
http://www.mediafire.com/download/xzg4q3rqs1c1i5i/Mirage_Ike_V2.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/xzg4q3rqs1c1i5i/Mirage_Ike_V2.zip)

Updated OP with things and stuff.

 I have a few ideas for Mewtwo as well. I'll put them into action after finishing Kirby, Wario, and Lucas. If anyone likes. I can start making CSPs for characters we have released now. Luigi was already done.

I just now found this project and everything I see is absolutely beautiful. I wish I could be productive. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MORE OF SHADOWLUIGI'S BEAUTIFUL CSPS OH MY GOLLY!! How soon're you planning Sheik and Zelda?

does anybody want a zipped folder of the files in the gecko mapping upon the finishing of this project?

Or would people rather follow the template used by minty/mars/maritime?

OP updated with brawl and SJS CSPs

It seems that anytime I don't post, nobody does. What can we do to fix that? Maybe if this thread had more exposure, everyone would be a bit more motivated.

Tell you what, I will continue where I left off before my R&R for finishing ike, and I'll post a thread on smashboards to further publicize the project. I will also be continuing my work on the following characters:

Mirage Ganondorf
Mirage Rob
Mirage Olimar
Mirage Ice Climbers

I've already made some adjustments to my Project M and I really like most of these.
I have mirage Roy, Ike, Falco, Fox, Samus, Zamus, Zelda, and Sheik.
Will be adding Wolf, Link, OOT Link, Mario, Doc, and Falcon as soon as I figure out how to use the darn cBliss tool to work.             :notimp:
the biggest problem with that is most of these costumes don't have CSPs. The only ones I could find were Xenozoa's brawl CSPs, and SJS's CSPs. Xeno makes CSPs for any and every costume he makes, and SJS makes CSPs if he's asked and when he has time. Do we have any other SCP makers that are willing to chip in and make their own CSPs for the project?

@Xenozoa425 would you be willing to help make brawl CSPs for the project as well?





If I have to make a fourth post in a row, it will be a serious megapost.  :srs:


Edit: how do you guys like the new OP?

Edit2: so i smashboards'd us
http://smashboards.com/threads/the-project-mirage-recolor-thread.373496/ (http://smashboards.com/threads/the-project-mirage-recolor-thread.373496/)
Feels? Opinions? Hate comments?

How are Brawl CSPs made anyhow?

I can't speak for everyone when I answer this, but I can tell you how I do it.

for every character I wish to make a brawl styled CSP for, I have the original brawl CSP (you can find all of them in the data partition under the resources tab at the top) and I cut it into layers.

let's take Mario for example, since he is one of the easier characters:

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120123163646/ssb/images/2/29/MarioBrawlArtwork.png)

I have a layer for the gloves, a layer for the shirt and hat, a layer for the overalls, a layer for his shoes, and a layer for the default CSP on the bottom.

lets say I wanted to change the color of his shirt and hat; I would select that layer, and change it's color. Since the only thing in that layer is his shirt and hat, that would be the only thing to change color.

Aaah, so you just photoshop the CSP... Is that how EVERYONE'S done it? I noticed the Boxing Donkey Kong in Project M is in the default pose... I wonder how they did it...

They rendered the boxing gloves and bandage on their own, then added them onto the default CSP.

I bet no one was expecting this, but...
(http://i.imgur.com/1ErQdgk.png)
...Someone seems happy to be in Mirage clothing!

Toon Link for Project Mirage! :D
Anything I need to do to make it better, let me know.
I took so short making this, so I wouldn't mind re-making it.

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Here's the CSP:
(http://i.imgur.com/vIiKmbA.png)
Here's the BP:
(http://i.imgur.com/AMvqOrv.png)
And here's the Stock Icon:
(http://i.imgur.com/bSQBsja.png)

One more thing...
Do I need permission to release him?

I would suggest in game previews first.

I already have them. :)
And here they are:
http://imgur.com/a/UYCj0 (http://imgur.com/a/UYCj0)
(GALLERY LINK)

Brighten up the white only a tad.
Also as an alt, try swapping the colors of the tunic and hat with the sleeves.

Personally, I like it. Taiko, Xeno, what do you guys think?

Okay, I love having more options. :)
So, just brighten up the white? Got that, working on it now...

Try not to get too alt-happy. I'm not the best guy to ask this stuff (not good at making costumes for projects like this) but the way Toon Link's recolours are, it's always colour + lighter colour for the sleeves. My suggestion would be to do a purple tunic + hat and have the sleeves be a lighter version of the same colour.

And a note on the stocks, they don't need to be 100% accurate, they should be readable as the colour slot's stock. In this case the costume is a purple costume, so making the hat purple would make most sense.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081214051406/ssb/images/6/6e/Alt-toonlink.jpg)
                                                                                                      ^^^^
Project M already has that kind of costume. right---------------here

not sure what other kind of ideas can come from that description and still be original without just bein the same as the default brawl purple. What I would take from it is have the sleeves be purple, and the hat + tunic be a darker version of that purple. Is that what you meant?

That's why I said I'm not too great with projects like these that apply a universal colour scheme to every character. I tend to go more "default style" and think of palettes that work for the character specifically.

You can have the darker purple he already has, with sleeves close to white with some purple? Or take inspiration from Manga Shadow Link.
(http://zeldawiki.org/images/thumb/0/0c/ShadowLinkMangacolors.png/180px-ShadowLinkMangacolors.png)

Well, I'm done with it now-
Also my purple darker than brawl's, to keep it like Mirage's style; I knew Toon Link already had purple, so I kept it original. See?
Here's Mirage Toon Link v2:
(http://i.imgur.com/s3weLyU.png)
Here's the alt: (*All I did was swap the colors)
(http://i.imgur.com/fsFPYYM.png)
Here's vBrawl's:
(http://i.imgur.com/hcyUVEt.png)

(Just need to get ingame pictures, then I'm done)

that's a really good skill to have, since character's like snake, ROB, olimar, and ICs, have something close to that.

Speaking of whom:

(http://i.imgur.com/Gg2nOHs.png)

while I like this color scheme, I would rather base him on the purple gamecube. any ideas?

Edit: upon first glance, I should probably shift the colors towards blue slightly and tone down the saturation....



I like them both, and now I can't decide which one I want  :srs:

I'm okay wtih the release, but taiko and xeno are very important members of this project and they might disagree with me. (making xeno happy is kinda hard, which is great.)

I think you should wait to release it.
I really wish Xenozoa425 checked this thread, but alas, he is busy with the smash 3 project.
Taiko, second thoughts?


as for yoshi: he's too blue. shift his main color towards purple, but not by much. Change the color of the saddle and shoes. I could be wrong, but I believe that he's under-saturated atm.

Xeno's been busy with real life, so I don't expect him to drop by soon. I'll mention again that my suggestions will be for purple costumes, not for mirage, so you guys may disagree.

Toon Link:
First, I'm going to say that I don't think you need an alt version. The original UTCP made the mistake of alt versions too, that shouldn't repeat here.
Use the current "alt" with the purple tunic as the main, and change the sleeves to a lighter, more desaturated version of the purple, like the pants on it. Next, change the pants back to beige, sine the only ones that change colour are a very specific reference to something.
That's all I'd suggest for Toon Link.

ROB:
Do not do Gamecube ROB. I made that mistake before. It just does not lend well to ROB's design. I'd say what you have right now is pretty good, possibly try lightening the purple up and desaturate it, though. vBrawl's blue should be a good reference of how to divide up the colours.

Yoshi: In addition to what was already said, change the belly back to white. Yoshi's belly does not change. The shoe soles don't either, so change those back as well. The shoe's main colour I feel should be switched back to default's shoes as well, as that's what the "official" purple Yoshi has, it'll help the texture feel much more official that way.

This should help with the body hue (under green Yoshi):
(http://img.gamefaqs.net/box/2/7/0/18270_front.jpg)

What's UTCP? (Pretty sure it's Ultimate Team Color Project, with the original Mars Minty and Maritime)

For thoughts on Yoshi, Project M already has Purple Yoshi. So if I make his body hue to that yoshi on the poster, it'll look just like regular Purple Yoshi, and not Mirage. As for the boots, saddle, and belly, that should be pretty easy, and I agree with you there.
It's a good thing I kept my XCF files, that means I can make changes easily. :)

And Toon Link, I personally like the Black one better, but oh well. I can change the pants back to beige, but since that one was originally the alternate, I swapped the colors around perfectly, that's why they're purple. But since it's no longer the alt, I guess I'll put them back. Maybe tomorrow though, because I'm busy with Project: Super Smash 4. So, yeah. Diddy Kong's the next one unclaimed, so I'll do him tomorrow as well.

Project M's Yoshi has pink shoes, while the proposed Yoshi would have normal shoes. It's like this in Smash 4 as well, so it'd be different while still being consistent with the project's goals.
Also, Project M's Yoshi is actually more towards blue, so a slight shift to be more towards pink should be different enough I think.

Oh, okay. :)
Thanks!

TAIKO, NOOOOO!!! You're breakin meh heart!!! :'( :'( :'( :'(
That would make tink a modified vBrawl.           :'( :'( :'( :'(
I disagree with that, but I don't want to disregard it. Whichever is whatever, I guess.

I will say this though: do what Taiko suggests, but keep the "alt". I like it too much.


Okay, I'll get right on on that.

I'm glad this has picked up again. If it hadn't, I was legitimately gonna do the remaining characters myself.

Is that not what a recolour is, a modified costume? I don't think you guys should try to stray from character designs for the sake of change, but that's me. Besides, it would be different because of the shade and hue of the purple, not to mention the sleeves would be different but still fit Toon Link. If not lighter, try a desaturated purple? I'm not sure what else to do to keep it from straying too far, but that's my eyes.

If my opinions are no longer needed, that's fine too.

I respect you taiko. I respect you a lot.
I apologize if I came across as immature.

Guys. I promise I haven't forgotten about this project.

The deal is that I need to get a laptop charger because I lost mine.
I'm still passionate about this project.

well as i said, i'm spoiled by the Smash 3 style and i've quite lost interest in doing skinsand recolors based on the vBrawl style, but i'd be glad to keep this up when the full Smash 3 update comes out to make Mirage versions of those
i'm also glad you still showed up even after all the inactivity in this thread, i was worried about if we were dying, it's like a little sprinkle of light during a blackout ;w;

hey guess what? I was serious.

(http://i.imgur.com/fW5E1yV.png)

Changelog:

I shifted the purple more towards red to better blend in with the gold.

Oh, hey, I made a Warioware Wario swap. I didn't make it with this project in mind, but I made one. I'll submit it once I'm unlazy. Comes with a CSP.

BEAUTIFUL.

eww gross.

after looking at the costume in-game, the purple needs to be shifted back towards blue and desaturated, and The gold needs to be desaturated as well.

I was going for a "mixes well with each other" type look, but this needs more of a "contrasts well with each other" touch. it looks gross atm.

That's precisely why I said you should stick around indigo/midnight blue for your primary colors, rather than deviate from a basic formula too far.

The gold doesn't look good either, but neither does all silver... but dark grey might work.

Consistency, gents!

Follow the patterns stated by the vBrawls cast, not the PM cast.

You guys are the offspring of the UTRP, therefore you must compete with them, in order to do that, you must follow their footsteps in order to achieve semi-perfection! (lets face it, no recolor project will achieve perfect looking colors on ALL the characters would it?)

"But Scout! You know nothing about recolors! You think pink is purple and your purple is violet! You are colorblind blablahblah"

And? I've been surrounded by many recolor talk to know the... um... habits? Yeah, habits.


Error 1: It may be true that having more is better, but you guys only have ONE color slot, only ONE purple slot. Alts will make the player harder to choose which color do they want, and also limits any possible probability for pack making.


Error 2: That is great, but your canvas is limited. The UTPK only added one color if they needed it in order to blend their characters well, usually the extra color works for the characters details, not as a secondary color like you did with ROB, don't be shy to use other colors on your canvas to make it more unique and less simple.

Seriously, your canvas is extremely limited.


Error 3: You guys have a really limited canvas, don't limit yourselves more.


Error 4:  You guys have to learn not to be overly dependent of them... and that is what I noticed the most!

"I did this, now I wait for Xeno and Taiko to tell me what I did wrong and not do anything for now."

Seriously, why don't you guys modify your alts ideas and create multiple shades of your characters instead of one shooting them all the time? Like, have 4 tlinks, add a bit of red to this one, desat that one, sat the other one, make the 4th one a grape. It gives you a better chance of nailing it closer than one shooting.


Error 5: Xeno is never happy, because he's secretly the evil "America's got Talent" judge.


Error 6: If you make mirage smash 3, this project will no longer be a recolor thread, but rather a retexture thread.

Nah I'm not that too hard to impress, it's just that purple so happens to be one of those colors I really don't care for too much... with some exceptions.

But like Scout said, you're at a point where you can't rely on other people's opinions for everything. Otherwise, it wouldn't even be your recolor project if we're the ones calling all the shots for everything.

Disclaimer, every time I said canvas, I meant color pallete.  :P

 Though I am nearing the end of my Spring Break, I should have time to buckle down and add some content into this. More like a complete overhaul on all of those I have done so far. I shall also be making renders. If you want one done, you can contact me via messages. Or you know, follow Taiko's render tutorial in his sig  :af:

Eksampull uf mai werk

(http://i.imgur.com/mTJtzUo.png)

Hey guys! I didn't necessarily make this item with Project Mirage in mind, but my li'l item fits it well: http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208285 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208285)

Any criticism? As you could probably see, I just switched a few of the colours on the "white" and "red" palette swap, it bothered me how similar they were. Then I added purple to the "white" one so it could Project M.

Lol sup nerds. As I've gotten more mature, so has my understanding of how colors can work together. This rob is bad, like, very bad lol. Atm, I don't have the necessary tools to work on him, maybe later.

Also I'll be more professional my writing/typing when it's not the 4th. Happy independence day!

Holy moly there's nobody in this thread anymore.

Bummer. More than half of these I'm willing to download.

I also have portraits for the mirage ike and a secondary with a white cape if anyone's interested.

 Smash 4 made Brawl modding take a big hit. With the exception of back-porting and whatnot. DLC helps the model and PSA community and PM is becoming less relevant. I am still able to work on this as I have gotten better at texture manipulation. As far as this group goes... Well everyone left after a while. Quite a handful are already leaving Brawl modding behind. I choose not to because I like rigging and testing myself. Brawl by far is one of the hardest Wii games to rig models over due to rotations and number of bones.

I guess I can update a handful of the ones I've started.