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Title: Smash U/3DS Post by: Mashudes on September 10, 2014, 12:35:51 AM So what happens when the new games release? Will there be a separate site once we learn how to hack the upcoming smash games? Or will this site be changed for the new games? What'll happen to the brawl mods?
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Real on September 10, 2014, 01:29:06 AM Brawl mods will stay right here, SSB4 wont be hackable in a LOOONG time.
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: windhunter7 on September 10, 2014, 08:00:04 AM I highly doubt it will at all be hackable, since the guy who made the game said that himself.
It still might be possible to extract the files, though, and get the data; just that you won't be able to insert data. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KingJigglypuff on September 10, 2014, 08:27:29 AM Nothing will happen for quite a while. That's what.
Smash 4 isn't going to magically be modifiable day 1. It took Brawl about 2 years before people could even do anything with it. And the first methods were only for recolors. What makes you think Smash 4 will be any different? Even if it were to become modifiable within a few months, it would be a bad idea to start making changes and advocate modding, as the game would be fairly new. There's bound to be some sort of lawsuit with a game so new being modded. It would also attract a lot of traffic to the website. Now will people knock the "OH LOOK SMASH 4 IS COMING OUT! WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO MOD IT!?" attitude off? It's really grinding my gears. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: windhunter7 on September 10, 2014, 08:32:23 AM There's bound to be some sort of lawsuit with a game so new being modded. I'm fairly certain that(I could possibly be wrong) within the first two years is when it's illegal to do anything with it, other than play it, and then afterwards it's legal to extract data and/or mod it, and then after like 20-30 years or so(Lik SNES games), that it's fine to do whatever, since the copyright's long expired. I could be misinformed on this information, though. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Mashudes on September 13, 2014, 02:29:27 PM I'm just asking for when it actually does become hackable.
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Segtendo on September 13, 2014, 02:59:54 PM Why must we have millions of people ask if Smash 4 is gonna be hacked? Can you people relax and enjoy it when it comes out? I know some people may be disappointed in a few roster choices, but enjoy the game for a while before you actually mod it.
Christ. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Mashudes on September 14, 2014, 12:19:50 AM Why must we have millions of people ask if Smash 4 is gonna be hacked? Can you people relax and enjoy it when it comes out? I know some people may be disappointed in a few roster choices, but enjoy the game for a while before you actually mod it. Christ. No need to be a [censored] about it bro. I am extremely satisfied with the roster. I can't wait to use Duck Hunt Dog (Probably gonna be my new main). I was just curious that's all. Don't be a [censored]. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Pikmin1211 on September 14, 2014, 12:52:44 PM Personally I just want music mods for Sm4sh. We still barely can do that with Melee so I doubt it.
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: StupidMarioFan1 on September 14, 2014, 05:34:14 PM No need to be a [censored] about it bro. I am extremely satisfied with the roster. I can't wait to use Duck Hunt Dog (Probably gonna be my new main). I was just curious that's all. Don't be a [censored]. He's just talking to people in general, there have been tons of people saying crap like "when can we hack smash 4?" "will people even still hack brawl once smash 4 is out??" and all that. He wasn't be a jerk to you specifically, but it sure looks like it when you don't know about how frustrated they are with other people. Sometimes anger just blows up and you get yelled at when you did nothing wrong. :/ And by "you" I mean people in general, not you specifically.Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KnightMario on September 14, 2014, 06:12:52 PM It still might be possible to extract the files, though, and get the data; just that you won't be able to insert data. There already are ways to 'extract' the data just not from the rom itself.And this will probably be one of the hardest smashes to hack considering we're dealing with multiple platforms here, so one will probably hacked a while before the other, if they do get hacked. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Segtendo on September 14, 2014, 06:22:23 PM He's just talking to people in general, there have been tons of people saying crap like "when can we hack smash 4?" "will people even still hack brawl once smash 4 is out??" and all that. He wasn't be a jerk to you specifically, but it sure looks like it when you don't know about how frustrated they are with other people. Sometimes anger just blows up and you get yelled at when you did nothing wrong. :/ And by "you" I mean people in general, not you specifically. THANK YOU. You're one of the few people that understand.Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: ✦Dylan✦ on September 15, 2014, 03:41:48 AM Sigh, Brawl modding has a long way to come, there is no need to jump ship straight away anyway, the only reason I have to mod the new smash is to make Ridley a playable character and it'd be a long time before PSA's can be made...
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: RebelliousTreecko on September 21, 2014, 12:49:42 PM Honestly...I kinda hope it doesn't become hackable for at least 5 or so years.
Brawl hacking has come so far, with the clone engine, model imports, voice imports, moveset hacking, etc. Sure, SSB4 may be higher quality in some parts, but don't think any simple hacks on that could compare to Brawl's. And I'm only just getting into hacking and I don't wanna be left behind, so there's that... Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KnightMario on September 21, 2014, 03:51:09 PM Honestly...I kinda hope it doesn't become hackable for at least 5 or so years. 5 or so years? That's definitely too much to ask. We've already gotten to importing custom text and image files in games, just look at Pokemon X and Y. I might be completely wrong on this, but I'd be really surprised if it isn't hacked by the end of this year.Brawl hacking has come so far, with the clone engine, model imports, voice imports, moveset hacking, etc. Sure, SSB4 may be higher quality in some parts, but don't think any simple hacks on that could compare to Brawl's. And I'm only just getting into hacking and I don't wanna be left behind, so there's that... Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Pikmin1211 on September 21, 2014, 03:55:01 PM 5 or so years? That's definitely too much to ask. We've already gotten to importing custom text and image files in games, just look at Pokemon X and Y. I might be completely wrong on this, but I'd be really surprised if it isn't hacked by the end of this year. Ummmmm... that's insanely early. If we do, I doubt it'd be anything interesting to hack. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: ShadowWolf on September 21, 2014, 04:00:42 PM Wanna know what I don't understand? Why the [censored] can't people just work together on this site for once and make it a higher quality game? Tbh, people on this site can make better stuff than Nintendo can in the first place. People don't even need to buy Smash 4 to have it, we have so much to work with we can make a brand new smash depending on the determination of course. Am I saying that we should? No. What I'm getting at is there's so much talent on this site and all we do is nit pick and make stupid projects that many will not download (Not directing this at everyone). For once, I wanna see something amazing on this site. Not being a [censored] Mashudes since this is completely understandable concept to talk about. We get Clone Engines and all that, but can we finally see something that actually utilizes it instead of stupid packs? That's what I want. Screw hacking Smash 4, make this better than smash 4
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Pikmin1211 on September 21, 2014, 04:11:16 PM Wanna know what I don't understand? Why the [censored] can't people just work together on this site for once and make it a higher quality game? Tbh, people on this site can make better stuff than Nintendo can in the first place. People don't even need to buy Smash 4 to have it, we have so much to work with we can make a brand new smash depending on the determination of course. Am I saying that we should? No. What I'm getting at is there's so much talent on this site and all we do is nit pick and make stupid projects that many will not download (Not directing this at everyone). For once, I wanna see something amazing on this site. Not being a [censored] Mashudes since this is completely understandable concept to talk about. We get Clone Engines and all that, but can we finally see something that actually utilizes it instead of stupid packs? That's what I want. Screw hacking Smash 4, make this better than smash 4 The problem with this is that everyone has their own opinion on what is good and what is bad. You want a good brawl hacking project? Try PM or something Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: ShadowWolf on September 21, 2014, 04:22:14 PM The problem with this is that everyone has their own opinion on what is good and what is bad. You want a good brawl hacking project? Try PM or something Not what I meant, I've been around long enough to know. P:M isn't everyones cup of teaTitle: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Segtendo on September 21, 2014, 04:40:38 PM Wanna know what I don't understand? Why the [censored] can't people just work together on this site for once and make it a higher quality game? Tbh, people on this site can make better stuff than Nintendo can in the first place. Whoa.No. Don't go there. Don't you dare say that we can do better than Nintendo. If you think you're so much better than their staff, go apply for a job. People don't even need to buy Smash 4 to have it, we have so much to work with we can make a brand new smash depending on the determination of course. >don't even need to buy itDo you want no more Smash? That's what I'm getting from this quote. For once, I wanna see something amazing on this site. Where have you been?We have so many AMAZING and crazy-talented texturers and modelers. Hell, some people have taken an entire PSA in their own hands. [censored], MK64DS almost did his whole Waluigi PSA by himself. THAT'S dedication. I can imagine being a stage hacker ain't easy as well. You gotta fiddle to get the lighting right, the right size, spawn points, etc. Don't. You. DARE say there hasn't been anything outstanding. Screw hacking Smash 4, make this better than smash 4 And the problem with Smash 4 is...?and don't you dare say all the clones. We've beaten that horse to death. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: SonicBrawler on September 21, 2014, 04:44:16 PM 5 or so years? That's definitely too much to ask. We've already gotten to importing custom text and image files in games, just look at Pokemon X and Y. I might be completely wrong on this, but I'd be really surprised if it isn't hacked by the end of this year. its already hacked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1blzrhblqM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1blzrhblqM) Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: ShadowWolf on September 21, 2014, 04:48:39 PM Whoa. Speaking as a person that is a fan to all systems, lets face it, Nintendo failed to create something's that were highly expected that fans could create with effort. I'm 16, no applying for jobs until I'm old enough to work for companies like that. Brawl Vault is a very popular site, so even if we did manage to create something that stole sales from Smash 4, it would still always get sales. Look at my other responses in the giant rant like comment I posted, we have amazing things, but when have you ever seen something utilized to it's fullest extent? All we do is get packs that don't make any sense from the clone engine, that's just one example. We have many talented people on this site MK64DS being one of them. Smash 4 is an amazing game, even from the demo I can tell, that's why I'm against the idea of modding it. All I'm saying is that if the talented people on this site somehow came together, we can make great things happen, especially from the tools we have at hand. I will buy the DS version, but I can't get the console version since I have a single parent and there's no way in hell I would make my mother buy something like that if I already have the other versionNo. Don't go there. Don't you dare say that we can do better than Nintendo. If you think you're so much better than their staff, go apply for a job. >don't even need to buy it Do you want no more Smash? That's what I'm getting from this quote. Where have you been? We have so many AMAZING and crazy-talented texturers and modelers. Hell, some people have taken an entire PSA in their own hands. [censored], MK64DS almost did his whole Waluigi PSA by himself. THAT'S dedication. I can imagine being a stage hacker ain't easy as well. You gotta fiddle to get the lighting right, the right size, spawn points, etc. Don't. You. DARE say there hasn't been anything outstanding.And the problem with Smash 4 is...? and don't you dare say all the clones. We've beaten that horse to death. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KnightMario on September 21, 2014, 04:50:28 PM Ummmmm... that's insanely early. If we do, I doubt it'd be anything interesting to hack. It's not insanely early if I can look at my full dump of Smash 4 textures. And the interesting things to hack would be the same things interesting to hack in brawl.its already hacked I know X and Y are already hacked, I meant Smash getting hacked by the end of the year.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1blzrhblqM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1blzrhblqM) Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KingJigglypuff on September 21, 2014, 05:06:07 PM Can we like get a Mod to lock this thread or something? Since it's starting getting out of hand.
*Huge wall of text* *Wall of text 2* Brawl Vault *KC:MMBrawl Vault is a sub section. You've been here for a little over 2 years. Learn the name, dammit. That's stuff noobs do. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: LC-DDM on September 21, 2014, 05:10:06 PM Speaking as a person that is a fan to all systems I don't believe you, but go on. Quote Brawl Vault is a very popular site Oh goodie, yet ANOTHER one of those freaks that can't get the name right. Quote even if we did manage to create something that stole sales from Smash 4, it would still always get sales. Highly [censored]ing unlikely to happen, on the fact that there's nothing in the world that can 'steal' sales from a game. Not even mods. Quote Look at my other responses in the giant rant like comment I posted, we have amazing things, but when have you ever seen something utilized to it's fullest extent? Oh I can think of some VERY good examples posted on the blog. Quote All we do is get packs that don't make any sense from the clone engine, that's just one example. That's literally the ONLY kind of examples you bother looking for! If you took some ACTUAL time and effort to do something called 'research', you'd find there's a metric [censored]ton of things out there that are worthwhile. Quote All I'm saying is that if the talented people on this site somehow came together, we can make great things happen, especially from the tools we have at hand. The last time a group of people took an initiative, they formed a Total Conversion-esque mod at the cost of warping their beliefs and twisting ties between us and them, creating a rift between the two and needless bad blood. Take it as you will. Quote I will buy the DS version, but I can't get the console version since FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS AHOY, not that anyone cares about it. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: SonicBrawler on September 21, 2014, 05:15:50 PM The last time a group of people took an initiative, they formed a Total Conversion-esque mod at the cost of warping their beliefs and twisting ties between us and them, creating a rift between the two and needless bad blood. Take it as you will. this needs to be locked because it serves no purpose. if oyu want to get sm4sh, ok, get it. if you dont, then dont. if you want brawl to be smash 4, keep dreaming. it can have some aspects form it, but it wont be able to BE smash 4. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: ShadowWolf on September 21, 2014, 05:30:29 PM KingJigglyPuff, chill, I didn't think putting KCMM was that needed since I'm not very active on this site. and LC-DDM, the first world problems you're talking about is having a single parent raising 5 members of our family by herself. My argument stands, but everyone needs to stop getting so butt hurt by a god damn website. There's a big world out there besides this website. LC-DDM. next time you dare to insult my family, I'm gonna roast your ass. Someone lock this thread before these grown men pop a blood vessel
Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: KingJigglypuff on September 21, 2014, 05:34:45 PM KingJigglyPuff, chill, I didn't think putting KCMM was that needed since I'm not very active on this site. That's not a good excuse.My argument stands, but everyone needs to stop getting so butt hurt by a god damn website. LC-DDM. next time you dare to insult my family, I'm gonna roast your ass. Someone lock this thread before these grown men pop a blood vessel Top lel.Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Large Leader on September 21, 2014, 05:40:06 PM LC-DDM. next time you dare to insult my family, I'm gonna roast your ass. 10/10 Top lel. Took the words right out of my mouth. But srsly. Why get so salty about this? This is a hobby for literally everyone. It's like getting angry at games. Then afterwards you realize it was stupid to get heated up in the first place. Just take a sec and you'll be fine, mate. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: Nao-chan on September 21, 2014, 05:42:32 PM I'm just gonna make this short and sweet. LOL.
That is all. Title: Re: Smash U/3DS Post by: LC-DDM on September 21, 2014, 05:43:06 PM the first world problems you're talking about is having a single parent raising 5 members of our family by herself. And you still didn't get a job to help her because... Quote everyone needs to stop getting so butt hurt by a god damn website. You should lead by example... Quote next time you dare to insult my family, I'm gonna roast your ass. Leave the fire-handling to someone that can't get burned that easily, kid. The only sentiment I share with you is that this thread has run its course and should be eradicated. |