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Hello, this is Nebulon the project lead for:

(http://i.imgur.com/dbn8WnT.png)

Features:

• Over 110 playable characters.
• Over 220 stages.
• Most characters have been edited, remade, or added to.
• All characters have everything they need to fit in with the original brawl cast (including CSPs, SFX, etc...) with the exception of WIP characters.
• Original Brawl cast remains untouched.
• "Combo Characters" now allow for more than one character per icon, giving some movesets different variations, while others are completely different movesets.
• Turbo Mode added from Project M(over Curry Mode)
• All-Star Versus added from Project M(Over Angled Camera mode)
• Several 1-Player modes are fully working with clone characters (still being worked on)
• All stages have proper music.

Roster:
(http://i.imgur.com/JYW1uL6.png)
Special thanks to rk12  :laugh:

Characters are ALWAYS being added/edited. The characters on the bottom are combo characters, meaning they share an icon with another character.

Including Zelda/Sheik, Samus/ZSS, and the three Pokemon, there are currently 111  characters included in Brawl4All and counting.

**Any suggestions regarding movesets are welcome!**



Future Plans:

Currently the team is working on:

• Adding more stages
• Bug hunting
• Reskinning Virus Zero as Megaman Zero
• Looking for suitable alt costumes
• Reviewing combination slot candidates

Things that will be worked on in the future (that I'll reveal for now ;) ):




Team Members:

These are all of the people working on Brawl4All.



Credits (As of 7/15/2015)


Update Logs



January 21, 2015

It's been a while.  ;)

I'm amazed that some of you thought I was done with the project... definitely not done. Not by a long shot. In fact, since I know how boring it's been on the thread, I'd like to share with you all what myself and Itman have been working on. I need to do this more as it's probably annoying that I occasionally release the latest build and then just sort of fall off the face of the Earth. So I'll try to show more pictures of what we've got going on in the future, and if I for whatever reason don't, reminding me won't be annoying. I sometimes forget that people actually care about the things we're working on as we're working on them.

But moving on... what's been going on?

I've fixed some more issues with characters, little balances here and there. I'm actually pretty happy with most of the characters (keyword "most") since I feel the edits that the team has done, along with the edits that people have sent me, have all around made for an awesome roster. Some things that come to mind are Knuckle Joe using a Ness module, which means he'll be able to charge his smashes properly, Spiderman's web can now can now be interrupted once the hitbox connects, etc etc little damage edits, speed frame modifiers here and there, that sort of thing :)

But the biggest things may just be:

Kirby/Fighter Kirby Combo character and Geno!

(http://i.imgur.com/SGGnLES.png)

There they are :) in the game, on the CSS, making it a nice box!

Geno has been finished. He retains most of his moves from the PSA and is a joy to play :) I've played him so much recently, and I can tell you that he's definitely one of my favorites (Yes I have favorites among my selection of PSAs :) )

(http://i.imgur.com/MZU7VfY.png)


And here we have Fighter Kirby:

(http://i.imgur.com/f8OEovK.png)

As with the previous combo characters, NONE of the original character's attacks, attributes, really ANYTHING has been changed. So both Kirbys exist on the same slot and can be switched through and through like costumes :)

He's also very fun to play, he's much more aggressive than Kirby, but easily punishable, so be careful out there.  :kdance:


I did say "But the biggest things may just be" Keyword "-things-"

That's because in addition to these new characters joining the roster, I've hard at work setting up these:

(http://i.imgur.com/SpofzuL.jpg)

But how many levels? Using Don Jon's Dual roster code, we were able to basically duplicate the RSBE folder, so that now, because there's dual RSBEs, there are two sets of stages. :) There is more that can be done with the code, but I want the characters and the costumes on both RSBEs to be the same. But we're looking into other fun ways to do it, and I'll have a poll up in a few days asking a new question regarding the possibilities of the code.

The toughest part was making the stages organized on one Selmap and the other, since I'm trying to keep them in order, while also putting them over proper stages and portable stages, while also trying to put stages in places where they won't require too much track replacing, etc etc etc etc etc. This is the 95% mark for this. Right now the only 2 stages that don't have a proper replacement are Hanenbow (sp?) and Smashville, though I'm looking into it. That means 156 stages are selectable, with the first 2 pages being for Brawl, Melee, 64, and a few misc stages, and the last 2 pages being reserved for brand new stages submitted to the vault. All of them have been tested, the music was tested etc etc, basically this process was tough since the amount of things that can go wrong here is enormous... which is why it's been so long. :) In the future, if a level expansion from PW is available, then that will probably be used instead of this code, OR along with this code depending on the capabilities. And in the future is the code is modified for a 3rd set of stages, then I'll have to upgrade my card to a new one :)

I'll give instructions on how to use the code properly in the next release, but cards are a good segway into another topic...

Obviously, with the amount of stages and music I packed into this, this build will only be available on a 4 GB card I now not everyone is happy about that, but really there isn't a way for me to make this work on a 2 GB card unless I didn't use new music or cosmetics... so options are limited. I'm also reviewing the poll and I can see that there is a good lot of you that still use 2 GB cards.

Because of this, I will give the 2 GB version of the pack "life support". IT will have the levels is currently has now, but it will be updated with roster additions over time, just as the new 4 GB one will be.

I will keep the 2 GB card on life support for a while longer... but the meat of what I will work on will be utilizing the extra space in the 4 GB card, and perhaps in the future it'll even be a bigger card. Just keep that in mind.

Obviously by now I've updated the Clone Engine used in the build thanks to PhantomWings and his recent updates. :)

And other than that, that's about all I've got. Before the next release I'd like to:

Finish up a few more level related issues.
Get another character in.
Look into getting All-Star multiplayer to work.

And a few secret things here and there  ;D

We've also got a new member to the team, give a round of applause to BrawlBoy22 :) He's helping me out with a few things right now that shall remain secret (unless he'd rather talk about them :) ). He's been a great person to work with, so hopefully we'll have more interesting content coming in bigger loads now that the primary team has increased.

That's all folks!

Just know that it's coming. This update won't have as many characters, but it will have edits that make characters play more smoothly (I'll keep those secret) and it will start a foundation in which we have 156-8 levels to play on :)

So stay tuned, keep talking to me, pming me, whatever you gotta do.

Release date for all of this? N/A. :) It's safer that way. But it's coming. And it might be worth getting your hands dirty with a 4GB card and PM's loader. I'm just saying  :af:

It's about time you made a thread  ;D I'll definitely be checking in every once in a while  :P

I noticed you had an info.pac that you started to give them their in-game names. I've been playing around with the info. Pac and I figured out how to give all your clones their in game names and still have plenty of file space for more( to confirm that I did the same thing with my pack) However I'm pretty sure I deleted the one for yours.... Would you like me to make it again?

Downloaded 3.0.0 and the files extracted fine. Loaded up the SD card - found an issue. Re-loaded the files, and it persists.

Lyndis's stationary A attack is crashing the game. I'm testing it out in Dolphin 4.0.2 - haven't loaded up the mod on my Wii yet.

That would be great if you could :) But I suggest you do this to my current build. I made some edits and fixed a few glitches, so I'll upload it here soon. But one thing! Make sure they work on Pokemon Stadium and Pictochat. I understand those two stages can have issues with custom names or something, so just test that first to make sure it's all good. But yeah, I'll post it later. :) Thank you very much!


Well, I am going to fuze this old Lucina PSA (Lyndis) with the newer one, and one of the things I was going to change were her neutral attacks, run animation, and possibly down tilt, but we'll see. That will be in the next update as well as some GFX fixes, some characters with their SFX added (courtesy of Alejandro Middlecorn), Sora's roll and facing the incorrect way will be fixed, among more things. So check back here and let me know how it went.

And one character will be replaced... which I told myself I wouldn't do, but due to almost a unanimous demand, AND because he is the most expendable character to me on the roster, I will be replacing a PSA and the character with a new one. I think people will agree that the change makes sense, and wil lbe appreciated.

I also updated Megaman's textures, Flygon's, and cropped the old Lucina model's with some new textures to make her look more Brawl styled...

A lot of little things basically.

Figured I'd test her out more thoroughly. Running/blocking/grabbing work fine. Any attack or smash is crashing. I'm thinking it might have to do with her audio? Attack animations start before crashing, but no vocals ever play.

Strange... i've never had freezes during those stages(i never really play them anyway) but there is a glitch the clones use the names of their base character(based on the slot or css config?) it never freezes though. Do you still want me to do it or hold off?

Well, to be honest this problem isn't one I'm aware of (I played as her almost exclusively the other night with no issue). And it's the first time I've heard about it. Did you edit the game in any way?

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I would very much appreicate it! But for the version I upload tonight (or possibly tomorrow) if that's okay with you. It's better you work with the latest version. I'll hand it over to you and once you complete it I'll continue my work on it :)

I haven't. I'll go ahead and re-download the pack, just in case.

I did take a peek in her fighter file after-the-fact though. She's supposed to use Marth's vocals, I take it? Funny enough, Marth works fine on his own - but if he attacks while Lyndis is in the stage, the game crashes. Lyndis was doing nothing at the time - I was Player 1 as Lyndis, Player 2 was CPU Marth.

EDIT: Redownloaded the pack - still crashing with Lyndis. To top it off, I can't find my 2GB SD card, so I won't be testing on the Wii any time soon. I'll see about trying a different version of Dolphin.

I'm going to put up the newest version in a moment. Just try that one. But I do thinkit's your Dolphin since I couldn't duplicate the problem. I am on a Wii though.


Since it's uploading now, the newest version will be the version that would be perfect to put the in match names in. If at all possible, could you make them as close to the in game font as you can?

I want to be part of your team.
I love to make SFX for Brawl.

Also, I'd be working in both my pack and yours.

Issue persisting. Don't know -what- it is, as Lucina builds in other packs have worked fine on Dolphin. Tried updating to a beta version - no dice. Maybe there's an option to tweak somewhere.

Went searching the house for SD cards. All I've got is a 1GB that's too small for the pack, and 4 and 16GB cards that won't work as-is. There was a code/patch to make these mods work on 4GB+ cards, right? I don't remember where I saw it, but I'll try and hunt that down to test this on my Wii.

so you finaly made a thread nice to see something that always happened to me is every once or two bottups i get stuck on the strap menu, but rebotting the console and trying again ususaly soles this so it isnt a big issue but i wonder if its just me that once in a while gets stuck on strap menu.

*subs*

I know right :)

Yes, that freeze can happen to me but very rarely. I play Brawl with friends twice a week for several hours and test little things all the time and it'll only freeze in me maybe twice a month at the strap. But I also normally skip the strap. I haven't had the loading screen freeze on me. Might just be the strap screen then?? But it's so rare. I remember people had tha iasue initially with Brawl Ex. Maybe it's just a random glitch??

Alright everyone, the new build is up. I'm going to update the future plans and set up a sort of wishlist of things I'd like the pack to include. If anyone would like to assist in those things then they can let me know.

On my plate, I'm goingto redo a few pictures and help out a couple of other EXers later. I updated some old models and so I should update the pictures, ya know? I'm also replacing Mickey later, and I might buff or break some attacks on some of the clones (though I did most of that long ago).

I'm also going to work on a mock up instruction menu for the new characters since there are obacure and odd attacks and whatnot that people might not understand or little transformations people might not know how to do. This way people won't just give up on certain included characters just because they can't figure them out.

I'm also adding a team section, which Alejandro is now a part of. He'a working with some sfx so when those are done I'll also be workin on putting the values in on certain characters. If you want to be part of the team, let me know or refer to the wishlist later on things that I'd need help completeing and let me know.

Happy modding! :)

I kind of liked micky, but i think it might have been just because the mario voice actually fit Micky lol.
At college all my friends love this, but I can tell you the negative things they have said to be constructive.

not trying to be criticle, this hack is just so awesome that i play it a tun XD. btw are we working on kirby hats at all? because I went and downloaded all the hats I could find that are missing. haven't applied them yet though.

Sephiroth is overpowered, but I sort of kept him that way. We all know I didn't make these characters, but I did edit them, but I was kind of iffy on editing him solely because he felt like he should be a boss character, but I guess I could edit him to make him more balanced.

I know his neutral combo is glitchy. What animations were strange to you? I can see what I can do.

The Pokemon are actually pretty solid, but I do have A LOT of them. Most of them are slow heavy hitters. But like a few of the characters I've added, I've considered getting rid of at least one of them in order to make room for some of the other movesets I'd put in later. I have an "expendable list" if you will.

The Green Garyados reminds me of Rayquaza, but I didn't make the texture. So possibly. I personally believe that's the inspiration.

I thought I fixed all of the incorrect pics/models. I'll double check Lucas.

I've brought up Blaze to the creator, but because I can never duplicate the glitches, I never know how to explain what's happening. But she's on the expendable list since I don't have the talent to fix that issue.

I will eventually add a sword Ganon that is not only a sword Ganon but also has different moves. I just can't decide how to skin him.

I'll look into making Sephiroth more balanced. And if I get motivated, I'll replace Blaze.

i didnt mean to sound like im complaining. and I already added sword gannon, you dont need to skin him, just replace gannons moveset. it works fine with every skin.

Oh no no no no. :)

I've been wanting to add a sword Ganon that was different enough from the original moveset for a while. This isn't because of you, I wanted to do that. And Blaze has always had issues. Plenty of people have reported her to me.

I don't personally want to touch the original movesets and edit them. I'd like to instead add in characters to avoid doing that, but the problem with sword Ganons is that the aren't normally different enough. But this time there's a remedy, and that is this moveset I've been testing for a while now.

I invite criticism on playability, it's fine. I'm not offended. Seriously I test and play this game with my... Verbally colorful pals. I hear it all, and that's fine. Blaze was an iffy inclusion to begin with, like Mickey. (You'll find Paper Mario plays similar without containing over powered moves).

I want the entire roster to have an audience. So I don't mind swapping Blaze. Of my group of heathans (friends aha) no one plays as her or Mickey.

It's all good. It's coincidental that I'd put in a Sword Ganon mod. I'd put in Giga Bowser or someone else, but that would require modules that don't exist.

its neat that its similar cuz is balanced. and theres not a learning curve. it there is a differen one, maybe it should be added to gerudo wizard bu idk up to u ofcourse :)

Right now I'm adding in Roll instead of Blaze.

I'll do Ganon over another weak link... just gotta decide who..

I got a suggestion for Sword Ganon: give him a Nightmare(soulcalibur) skin, theres one by beyond on the vault

Nightmare is definately a great idea. Are there any sword Ganon movesets that compliment his fighting style?

Is there a way to only import the characters you want into the game? Because I don't want all of them, I want to choose which ones to import.

for new skins in stuff I notesed goten skin, his grab is off (for obvious reasons, so why not just replace him with this hack "HD cBliss Brawl Goku"

new goddess zelda came out, looks cool "Goddess Zelda V.7.0"
ur also missing fierce diety link
and "Skull Kid DO style Version 1.5"
CoN Uzumaki Naruto v2 came out
Dark Emperor Ganondorf Version 4.0 looks like it may be anther version of sword ganon that uve been lookin for

Fierce Deity skin or moveset?

Is the Skull Kid moveset good? It seemed a bit spotty when I tired it a while ago.

Is the new Naruto the new version of the one I use?

I'll see if the new sword Ganon is good. I'll check the moveset video if there is one.

People still use my PM Rainbow CSS?

Time for this project to get an interface upgrade.

More on this soon.

Sorry this took so long but I finally finished your info.pac . Sending it to you via PM now

Awesome! It's fine man it's amazing you even did it :) What program did you use to edit the info.pac itself? Just BB?

Just BB. It was easier this time since I already did it with my pack so all I had to do was switch names

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OH almost forgot!
You probably already know this but take out _en

well both...skin and move set because the match
dont no just thinking outloud with skull kid
I dont think so this Naruto spears to have a kyubi mode
it is not the same sword ganon I think its worth looking into
this is literally what it did to find them

empty character search with PSA checked as requirement and sorted by top downloads all those things were on first page

SFX files to edit pls.
Alejandro MiddleCorn has arrived :3

BTW, did Buu and Deadpool work?

ok. i've been trying to edit your pack for my personal brawl. but i can't get a mario clone working. i'm trying to replace sora. slot 4c. it keeps freezing before a match.

Did you try the clone tool? I don't personally use it because it's messed me up before. Send me all of the files (module, cosmetic, csslot, slot, and fighter) and I can help you. pm please :)

@Alejandro, I'm just now looking at some sfx packs. It's a shame that Viewtiful Joe is only a bnk file. If you know how to crack those open that'd be great since he's a great character to use. Knuckles sfx being put into Buu's and Deadpool's one be great as well. :) But let me keep looking around. I might use Knuckle Joe and Gray Fox's assist trophies to get their sfx for the characters so I won't need them.

Just give me some time and I'll have another list for you. And let me know if you can use bnk files or extract sounds form them. Expect a list tomorrow! :) I'm looking everywhere this time for all of the existing SFX.

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And Buu and Deadpool work perfectly!

Sadly, I can't use .bnk files as they cannot be included back in the .brsar.

Only .wav files or .sawnd files. Also make sure they are not corrupted like the Vegeta one.

I updated the OP with a question. I need everyone's help!

I need to buff and nerf some of the PSAs, and I need all of your help! Be specific about what attacks need to be fixed in order to achieve more balanced play. Characters like Sora, Knuckle Joe, and Bomberman are lacking here and there. Others are a little too strong. I can change the knockback and damage to any moves, but I need people's help with the frames. What attacks need to be fixed? Please let me know either in pm or here! :)

I have a sword Ganon PSA edited and skinned as Arbiter in my pack.

if greyfox doesnt take up extra space because hes an asist trophy thats fine, however, I think he sounds close enough to metanight in the game,

a friend of mine said he wishes viewtiful joe would have his sounds (mainly cuz he sounds so funny) I think deadpools sfx should be a higher priority, I noticed u made him silent, (still better than snakes sounds) but silent is literally the 1 thing deadpool isnt. metal sonic could probably get the clanking sounds one gets from the metal box item

Also Im confident Im pretty good in items now,  so im trying to learn bout sounds next, maybe I could help when I get good enough, I first need to figure out how Alejandro is editing your sounds without the smashbros_sound.brsar

Deadpool has sounds :) in my build anyway. As does Buu, Knuckle Joe, and Grayfox now. If an expiramntal technique works then we'll be able to do more. I'm makeing a Viewtiful Joe set of wavs for Alejandro to make a sawnd from.

like from the most recent update? oh ok, thats great :D

I updated deadpool to a more recent model, gave him skins that wernt recolors, and i changed the icons and portrates to show them,  it works fine,  do u want me to send it?

I would but if it's the models I'm thinking of then try all 4 in a match and see if it lags.

will do. I might also try to start working on kirby hats ill let you no

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checked it out, 4 deadpools dont lag for me :). the player icons and and css icons r fine but i dont know how to replace the results screen icons.

edit: nm figured it out i fixed deadpool hes fine no lag all icons replaced

Which Lucina are you using? The new one or the old one? The newer one has a brawlex version with SFX here http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205484 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=205484)

I had tried the initial release of the new one and I found the Side B attacks to be too precise to execute in a high octane match. HOWEVER, that was a long time ago. So I'll give it another try and see how she plays now.

In other news for the rest of the people:

With some advice from Carnage I've been able to speed up a few of Metal Sonic's attacks whih make him much more playable. I also sped up an attack on Sora, Grayfox, and Knuckle Joe, and I'm gonna edit Knuckle Joe's side B to transition into a second attack after the initial hit.

The new one has SFX but has flaws.
She will still sound like Marth when he is present.

You could probably just remove Marth's SFX Ids.
Theres also another BrawlEx Lucina in Kitsu's BrawlEx(also replaces Porky's sfx), http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=203537 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=203537) its been slightly edited from the original  but it doesn't have any leftover sfx from Marth

There's no way to do that on PSA.
The best tutorials that can make that possible (with BB or Tabuu), fail.

If you really know how to do it without corrupting the .pac files, then tell me. I also want to know.



I'll check that out and see if you're right.

EDIT: He states that Lucina's Final Smash freezes the game.

I'd like to state some points about your requested PSA changes.

-Villager's Pocket will likely never be possible, unless we can fully crack articles, rels, and the Sora_Melee.
-Dr. Mario's Final Smash could be possible, but the only way I can think of it working is making new GFX for it. Or you could make an entirely new Final Smash that isn't just Electric Mario Final Smash.
-The Side Special stretching could either be a model issue or an animation issue.
-Gerudo Wizard's Grab changes are possible.
-I'm not sure if it's possible to manually code in a GFX indicator for if a projectile is reflected.
-There might be a way to do that.

Also, you're free to use any PSAs I've made in your BrawlEx pack, as you know what you're doing, so I can trust that you won't mess things up.

Oh, for [censored]'s sake. Enough of that. You [censored]ed up your file. You have to start over with an unedited character. There is no magic way to make it work on a file that's been messed up by noobs who don't know what they're doing. So stop [censored]ing about the tutorial not working.

'He'
>.>

That would be a BrawlEx problem, not a PSA problem. All Marth clone final smashes screw up.

Marth Clone Final Smashes screw up? Hmmm... I wasn't aware... Do you mean Marth FSes or custom ones? The Roy I'm using works,  despite having the diminishing life bar graphic on each of his hits. I believe the Lucina I have also works but I could be wrong... maybe I'll go double check that :/


Thank you for the responses. :)

It's looking grim for the time being with Villager's Pocket. He's over Pit, so with my limited understanding I thought that perhaps if we made the neutral special have his Down B reflect article reflect the object into a VERY VERY close Side B reflect article repeatedly, before being released by removing the Side B reflect article with the press of the special button, it would essentially reflect it back. But as it's probably apparent, I don't know much about articles other than that they're character specific and contain unique parameters that allow for "abnormal" actions. I don't even know if what I'm saying would make sense. I was hoping the two points of reflect would be so close that the Graphic would appear to disappear, but I'm not sure that would work. Just a thought, and probably not fullproof.

As for the rest of the wishlist, this does give me hope :) I'll see if I can't start figuring out a few of these myself. I just taught myself today how to put sawnd files together (which will help the SFX completion come along) and I'm trying out something I haven't heard being done before: using an enemy Sawnd file (Or rather making one over an enemy's ID and whatnot). I'll test it later with Viewtiful Joe, as the current available one is a bnk file.

And I'm happy you're okay with me using some of your PSAs :) I won't mess them up. Raptor is one I'm actually using and there's nothing wrong with him as far as play style goes, at least with me. I've been spying on your Wisp progress too, and it looks promising.


In other news for people visiting or revisiting:

As I mentioned above, I've figured out how to make some Sawnd files using wavs. I'm still testing a few things as we're out of boss slots I'd be willing to use, so I'm experimenting with enemy IDs and whatnot (which are typically smaller, so I'll have to get creative). Alejandro is also working with Sawnds so before the next release we'll have more SFX related things complete, as well as the PSA edits.

The hard part is opening the PSAs as I don't always know what they were made in, but I've got most of the tools downloaded so I'm going to have to do some trial and error. As requested, I'm tackling Viewtiful Joe.

Who's next? Well... I haven't decided and I'm still learning. But there will be more to come. Maybe I can get all of the announcer calls working too.

I was referring to my pack, since I'm using the unstable version. XD
Far as I've seen, yours seem to work perfectly well.

It isn't a BrawlEx problem. I have 3 Marth clones and the 3 of them work flawlessly


I didn't mess up the file.
I just edited it, and it always crashed at the exact same point.
It is not my fault.

Sorry, didn't see that last comment :P

Ah, the unstable version. I see. :) I've got a lot of work to get done before the next big release now that I've learned how to edit in sounds. Hopefully he makes a stable version soon.

But I'll be sure to check out Lucina before I work on her SFX.

As for the people, I have made a few accomplishments. Thus far myself and Alejandro have made SFX for:

Knuckle Joe
GrayFox
Buu
Deadpool
Naruto
Viewtiful Joe
Sora
Ryu

I'm going to tackle ALL (yes ALL) of the rest of the characters that speak and make sure everyone has sounds, with the help of Alejandro of course.

After that I'll do announcer calls and then I'll step back and just start tweaking based on feedback. And speaking of tweaking I'm still doing a few buffs and nerfs here and there to the PSAs.

I'll be more detailed in the news section either tomorrow or the day after, but for now, just now that the pack will finally be receiving the sound effects that people have been wanting for so long :)

oh, I didnt know you made a thread about this, it was time!
btw I keep thinking the shared soundbanks is a better way because boss sfx can glitch alot

Keep in mind that im pretty much an absolute nobody when it comes to the Brawl hacking community, so i surely could be wrong about some things but:

I've been experimenting with the unstable build of the clone engine, and it seems that all marth clones that use fighter config files from versions 1.2.0.0 and below DO indeed crash the game. however, if you simply replace the fighter config file with one from V 2.0.0.0, it should fix that issue. Since BX config utility doesnt open config files from this version, you'll need to edit/rename things in the fighter config file using a hex editor, although thats as simple as typing the desired name over marth's/whosoever's config file it is, wherever it appears.

That being said, im unable to figure out how to edit what costumes are checked (like when checked in config utility editor) by using the hex, so if you happen to know, i'd appreciate the info. To whoever happened to be unaware of this, hope it helps. :)

Oh?... Interesting... I'll be sure to check that out at... Some point.
Thanks, though!

found some wierd glitch...i tried to fight with young link, pichu, mew2, and dr mario, and did a brawl, pichu died first, but after that mew2 retained his sounds. so mew2 was going PICHU. PICHU. PIII.. not quite that often, u had to listen for it, but it was definitely there.

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Spider-Man Fix:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9oLLmkzdtpqbmpYNWJLODZEdFk/view?usp=sharing

Edit:
for some reason the pictures got mixed up, im fixing them now

The Mewtwo in this pack should be replaced with KingOfDreamland's.
That's way better. And there's no need to include all the .sawnd files, just the one with his voice.

I'm on my phone and wanted to give a bigger update and reapond to everyone, but doing that on my phone would be tough so I'm going to say give a mini update now just to tell people what I've been working on.

So, I've made sf packs for Bomberman, Ryu, Scorpion, Viewtiful Joe, Raptor.

I set up packs for Tails, Waluigi, Knuckle Joe, Grayfox, Naruto, Sephiroth.

This is in top of Mewtwo, Pichu, Young Link, Goku, Buu, Deadpool, Megaman, Megaman X, Shadow, Roy.

Some characters like Dark Link, Gerudo Wizard, Dark Samus, Dr. Mario, Hector, who all are okay with me since they sound like their original movesets.

This is also on top of characters like Scott Pilgrim, Metal Sonic, Marisa, who are silent and don't need sounds.

I have to make sounds for Vegeta.

I have to put together sounds for Cloud, Broly, Lucina, and Dante.

And Alejandro is working on Knuckles, Spiderman, Wolverine and Zero.

I also fixed a glitch with Ganondorf and one of Lucario'ssounds. All in all I'm hoping to release the update in 4 days.

Which sfx have you gotten done already?

I talked about it here. It's easier for me to just quote this then retype it. It should answer your question :)

I meant, like, which character over which boss. Are there enough boss sfx for all those characters?

I know Shadow has been done over Crazy Hand, at least the one on the vault is.

Well let me see if I can remember...

All the bosses are used wxcept for Tabuu and Ridley aince those PsAs use those sounds.

Assist trophies Waluigi, Knuckle Joe, and Grayfox are in use for those characters.

As far as enemies... This won't be a complete list but I'll say what I canremember right now:

Boobas
Dekakuribo
GalFire
Ghama (I think)

....

And Alejandro will be using Kokkon... And three others..

I'll give you a full list later I'm on my phone at work.

Sure, thanks ;D

Edit:
fixed it
rename fitspiderman03 to 04
rename 04 to 05
and 05 to 03
it works perfectly

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3778691 (http://www.tubechop.com/watch/3778691)
It's sad to see Blaze go, but I'm sure Roll should fill in that gap finely.  (Still don't like Dragonite outside of his Final Smash)
Also, Mewtwo's voice glitches when fighting Pichu.

OP updated. :angel:

Question:

Do you have Deadpool with SFX over a boss, or Shadow without conflicting GFX?

I just finished adding Deadpool's cosmetics and announcer call to my own build, and I was going to get started on porting its SFX from Snake to a boss, but it appears to me that you already did so. Would you mind sharing?

As for Shadow, since it was you the person to make the GFX fix tutorial, you got it done so to your own?

Well if memory serves, Shadow and Sonic share an ef_file with some extra PSA work that makes it so that their gfx do not conflict.

Feel free to use anything I make :) I put it up for download for people to use in any way they wish.

And Deadpool is over a boss as well. He's sawnd 322. and his Fighrerconfig is set up for it so I'd swipe that too to make it easier.

I just tested, and, at least in the version I have, Shadow's Chaos Spear (side-B) conflicts with Sonic's running trail (from running animation and "you're too slow" taunt).

If player 1 chooses Shadow and player 2 chooses Sonic, then Chaos Spear will be replaced by Sonic's running trail and the running trail will also appear during neutral air.

If player 1 chooses Sonic and player 2 chooses Shadow, then Sonic's running trail will be replaced by Shadow's Chaos Spear.

Have you tried Jrush's Dante PSA? its completely different from the one you are using right now.
Also have you considered adding Lloyd or Asch? There are PSAs for both and Lloyd already has a BrawlEX version with his own sfx too.

Try downloading it again.

I didn't have GFX issues when using it.

I'd say "use the Shadow from my pack, but it'll conflict with Knuckles and others.

this makes me almost want to get back to brawl modding.

almost.

It's it wrong for me to say I'm flattered? :)

As far as I know, everything you've been a part of has turned out fantastic on Brawl Vault. I wasn't aware that you were no longer modding.

If you ever want to get your hands dirty with modding again, I'd be more then privileged to have you help out my build in any way :)



In other news for Brawl 4 All users and lurkers, as I mentioned in the OP I put in the Smash 4 Lucina/Marth combination PSA I helped out with. The funny thing is I know more about EX then I do about PSAing. With some help from (at the time) Kitsuchan and Don Jon BravoEX I did what seemed theoretically possible after pming PW and accomplished the boss slot addition, as well as utilizing the random bits of data you could string into making more slots. Now I'm using enemy sfx ids and what not now that configs exist for an easier look into the coding of the characters, which isn't ground breaking, but something that apparently a lot of you are excited for according to my inbox.

But with my experience with helping Batman64 with the sound effects for Lucina and Marth combo, I decided as the build lead, I need to learn more about PSA. I know plenty of things, aside form animating, but admittedly, I need to learn a bit more as I feel combining PSAs will guarantee a brighter future for all pack builders, as the clone engine will meet it's cap off with the next update (or so I assume. I haven't spoken to PW in months). It's the ultimate space saver, and can really provide options for players who maybe want to be 64 PSA Link, or maybe feel that Dr. Mario isn't different enough for his own slot.

So I'm going to do some more research and see if I can't do more of that.

Right now I'm working on one with Batman64. It'll be included in the new update, but it will be a surprise. As to when I'm going to update it, that could follow one of two patterns:

1. If there's enough demand, I never have a problem just putting it up, so I could always just update it with enough demand via pm.

2. When I feel it's "leveled up" so to speak. Before I update it, I want to replace the Lucina move set I have with one of the move sets that ITman has been working with. ITman was also kind enough to look into some of my wishlist items and help me out since I've been swamped with SFX things (and he's much more knowledgeable then I am about PSA commands). I also want to finished the SFX packs before I update. So to put that into perspective: at least 4 more SFX packs, one PSA replacement and one more dual PSA fusion I helped work on :)

Now I'll address some people individually as there's been chatter on the thread I haven't responded to:



I have considered Lloyd and Asch. Lloyd is a PSA I'd include if it didn't break one of my rules. The lack of grabs means that unfortunately it doesn't make the cut. However to my knowledge, the creators are working on it still, and I talked to one of them and so it's likely he'll be put in a future update once the PSA is updated :) As for Asch, I do not believe I have a connection to him. I've completed 459 console games and I haven't played the game he is from. That bring said, I have no problem including him, but I'd want to do research and make sure that I bring in other alternate models form the series on other characters so that I don't just have a random enemy character in the build. OR I could re-skin him, but I'm iffy about that. He's definitely been a potential though. He'll have a better chance of coming in if PW updates the CSS to hold all of his slots and boss slots what with some of the plans I have for characters and future inclusions. But if PSA fusion takes off, who knows?

As for the Dante one, while I enjoy it, I have issues with it too. I think the best thing to do would be to combine the current Dante PSA and his to achieve a more unique and functional character. To use my rubric as a reference, I'd say that Jrush's PSA captures the character completely and showcases it in all of his animations. But the one I use feels more grounded alongside other Brawl characters. It wouldn't be hard to combine the parts I like about both so, perhaps I'll combine them in the future.



Roll plays great :) I enjoy her a lot. I've gotten reports about that so I'll definately look into it soon and see if I can't make sense of it. I have a feeling it's something I did when I was modifying the Mewtwo PSA. By chance, is it just Mewtwo that uses Pichu's clips, or does Pichu use Mewtwos as well?



I'll be sure to use those costumes you fixed :) Thanks for linking it!



I don't think I left anyone out but if I did then feel free to pm me :)

I hope to get everything wrapped up soon and I hope to be involved in more PSA fusions!

Thank you everyone for checking back. Working on this pack is a great experience. Have fun!

I could have sworn that Marisa breaks that rule, too.

The only reason she was an exception is be ause instead of having her grabs and all direction throws she has moves in all directions that replace the grabs. That's the only reason it's okay. Otherwise I wouldn't have included her. If she had just her special attack mapped to Z then I wouldv'e axed her for sure.

I'm using the one that comes with the SFX for Shadow over Crazy Hand. I'll try re-downloading it, anyway.

so im not sure if you want to use it, but im going to go back to modding for a bit and try and make a sonic and shadow on the same slot. so then who ever wants to can make shadow's costumes use shadow sfx.

That sounds fantastic! I don't see why I wouldn't use that :) What slot costume are you starting with Shadow?

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New question in the Subject. Let me know what you think. I'm a little unsure of what to do that's noticable without comprimising the identity of the oroginal character.

That one is not GFX glitch fixed.

And it still conflicts SFX with Sonic.

you should make a tutorial about the dual characters

Well my good friend Batman64 is doing just that :) and then I'm goong to start a lot of PSA fusion projects. That'll be the next phase after sfx. If anyone wants to join me they should let me know :) i'm compiling a list of the best fusion ideas to be done.

What should I do, then? =/

yeah, after the named CSPs and shared SFX, Ive been wondering how to make shared GFX and different animations, but I still dont get how do you code it so a certain costume will read the new animation/SFX

i want to have it so that sonic has 0-5 then shadow has 6-11.


i did something like that. sorta

Good news, the SFX files for Knuckles, Zero, Wolverine and Spiderman are ready.

The characters only need PSA edits.

BTW, those characters will replace SSE enemy SFX.

I made some icons for Marth/Lucina

One is a higher contrast so the image pops more even though it is a small size, I recommend this for the css portrait (in fact, maybe all css portraits should have a higher contrast. i will work on that if you like.)

Also, there is a small icon commonly associated with the shuffle button on mp3 players that should easily indicate to a person that would otherwise never know. that something on this character is interchangeable

Marth/Lucina CSS Portrait:

I like those ^

I do as well. I'll make a variation based on your design since my i ons are all based on the csps. :) that's a great idea.

that may b hard to do, i searched everywhere on google looking for marth and lucina icons where there faces match up properly , these are the only two i found.i suggest that if the csps are going to have a selection on each skin, that you do it like the pokemon trainer.

I'll keep that in mind :) I've got an idea I might add to yours.

For everyone else: UPDATE

So, in the SFX department:
Dante
Cloud
Broly
Wolverine
Flygon
Dragonite
Typhlosion
Gyarados

Do not (yet) have sfx. I need a break from SFX. Right now myself, Batman64, SonicBrawler, and Itman are talking about PSA fusion and we're essentially creating more slots by combining movesets OR introducing new movesets altogether.

Itman has also shown me some of his PSA edits and so we've got the first batch of replacement characters in mind. So far with Lucina gone, we have one extra slot, but we might get up to three extra slots before the next update with an additional character added so all in all with the 89 current characters (counting Pokemon as individuals) we may get up to 93 before the next release. But I've got movesets planned out for more future slots and combinations. Special thanks to Itman for showing me these movesets as I hadn't tried a few of them before, and that's saying something since I've tried EVERYTHING practically.

ALSO, if you want me to include you in the team section, either post here or pm me. If you've helped out in any and I mean ANY way you're eligible. I want people to feel acknowledged for their work, so if you've helped me out, pm me and I'll put you in the team spoiler. I don't want to ask people if they are "in" or "out" as I don't want to give off a vibe that I require commitment (because I don't) so just let me know.

Also, due to popular demand I might PSA fuse Sword Ganon to some of the costumes over the original moveset. But I'm still reading a learning, so all in due time.

Happy modding!

Only those?

Yes :) Characters that are silent don't need them, characters that you make yourself (Like Monster Hunter) don't matter much to me in the SFX department, and characters like Vegeta and Villager are going to be replaced with new SFX for the newer PSA. So for the time being, the 8 that are staying that don' have sfx are the ones I listed. I'll do Wolverine at some point. I MAY remove one Pokemon though.

Have you ever considered to use the Primids' soundbank for at least 1 or 2 Pokemon?

Flygon and Dragonite feel good in the game.

So wait what happened to lucina

I got an idea on CSP for dual PSAS
Put their CSP names on the portraits ao that way when you switch to Lucina the text changes too. :)

That's already done.

I did that too actually :) It's in the Lucina/Marth download :) I think I'm going to also put a Yellow Plus sign on the CSS Icon name or something to let people know that the icon has an extra moveset too.


We are now going to use her Smash 4 moveset that is shared on Marth. But I may use that moveset in the future as Lyndis.

Hey Nebulon, I think the members of the team should have the updates too so we can see what needs to be changed/kept.

The Final Updates should be the ones you release to the public.

seconded is there a way to make a pass protected dropbox?

That's fine :) BUT I don't know how to do that. Right now I'm working on editing the final character necessary for the next update. I successfully fused a character with Batman's help, and I almost did it for 2.5 of them but those two got corrupted :/

I'll let you two know what's going on via pm for now :/ sorry I've been quiet, I've been learning new things that'll be the foundation for the pack in the future.

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Well, I added in the last character who needs to be in before next release, however adding anything to my CSS file, or even replacing something causes it to freeze. So...

I don't know what to do... like at all. I guess I'll have to rebuild the whole thing, but I don't just want to rebuild it and it fail again, I've been asking around and no one seems to know. :/

So we're on hold until that's fixed.

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Okay, so another quick update:

With a replacement for Lucina and another PSA fusion, we now have 92 characters available. The newest fusion is still undergoing some changes however.

The pack will either be updated today or tomorrow, guaranteed :) I still have SOME sfx work to do, but I'll get to it for the next update after my next fusion.

I also have a question I'm going to make a poll over. I NEED INPUT so let me know what you think!

As for the poll, unless your talkin bout mario skins I have no idea wut ur talkin about. If u r talking about skins this is my input

metal Mario is useless form this there is already a metal item.
N64 goes good cuz there's already a N64 Bowser, peach, Luigi etc..
personally, I think u should add the hot rule 63 Mario <3

also for the sake of my sanity if decided to take a break from viewtiful Joe, I'm sorry, but I am working on Dr Marios stuff such as Final smash I don't know about changing the animations to electricity, however, I can probably do some amazing things with textures you will probably like
like a bunch of molecules or something zoom out
also i have been working on making him his own separate character from Mario, just slightly though, like changing FLOOD to a giant common cold germ. Maybe makeibg that yellow flag he waves around into a clip patient chart clip board
lemme no if u have any other ideas.

sonic/shadow is giving me problems in brawlbox. but i only have 3 specials left, and the fs.

As promised, the pack will be updated today :) and work for the next update will continue. I'll get into the next phase a bit later, but one thing to note is that the wishlist will be updated with some new things and I'm happy to say that some of the things currently in it will be removed :) But other things will be added.

I've got some pms about people who want to contribute and help out, and after reviewing some of the plans I admittedly have plenty of things that would really increase the quality of the pack and characters.

So keep an eye out for an update, and some pack news later tonight. I'll also update the team section to include some members who have helped out and have mentioned being on a team.

See you all later. And happy Halloween!

Since my Raptor is in your pack, I wanted to let you know I recently updated my Raptor with some minor things just recently.

And if you plan on putting my Solo Charizard in your pack, I have an update for that as well, but I can't release that update just yet.

Mhmm. I see you intend to include my K. Rool in there. I'll try my very best not to let ya down. ;)

As a matter of fact, I figured I would eventually like to use your Charizard :) Probably not until the next Brawl EX update, since right now we've got the next few characters out, but the moveset is so good I can't see passing it up :)

And Raptor sounds good too. Do you have a changelist in your thread I can read about?


No pressure :) You've got great plans for him, I'm sure he'll be a blast! When he's finished, I'd love to include him ;)

As for the upload for tonight, I'm still doing it, I'm literally just waiting for family and guests to leave. So it'll happen soon. :)

So far the poll is tied... I'll see where it goes when I get to him. For now I'm considering different PSA fusions. So when I get to Mario, whatever the poll is, is what I'll do. Also going to factor in votes from people in real life as well.

Will update soon!

It should be the very last post in my thead.

Nice! I'll put him in later. He'll be included in next week's update :) I'll need to map his sounds to the Riptor sWnd I made. Thanks for letting me know!

Dr. Mario Progress:
I understand you wanted a final smash, until I figure out how to do that I'm taking that one step further.
I redid FLOOD for Dr. Mario. It is now a giant bacteriophage virus.

Dr. Mario's FLOOD will look something similar to this:

Should I continue with Dr. Mario FLOOD as well as other unique moveset model concepts (ie. yellow flag, final smash , and entry pipe?) I would like to know so I don't accidentally do it all for nothing. (Also, are you sure electricity is the best way to go with his final smash, that is more of Luigi's thing in several of the games.)

Lastly Viewtiful Joe is finally almost done:
It is simply painstaking and tedious re-weighting the !@#$% thing. I may also need to tweek his moveset too. At least that shouldn't be too hard or take too much time.

It's good to hear VJ is coming along :) But I'm curious about this virus you've got there. I don't entirely want Doctor Mario to play different then he does, as Doctor Mario is an actual character, BUT, with PSA fusion I could definitely make a second Dr. Mario on top of the slot that uses the new attacks you had in mind :) That way we can have both a Meleeish and a Decloned one!


For everyone else:

I've made progress in one existing moveset in making it feel better and one new moveset that its giving me problems. Might need a 2nd opinion for that one.

I'm also adding in something new, but it's a surprise. ;)

link will have a shared slot with young link, right? I hope so

Well there's an issue with that... you see, we can't make a character's attributes like weight, run speed, jump height, gravity, etc costume specific. :/

Young Link is already a character in the Smash Bros series, so he plays a particular way with particular stats. For this reason, he won't be combined with Link.

HOWEVER we do know how to make run speed slower in a different way, which involves editing the animation. But as of right now, until the other stats can be edited, he's not in the plans so to speak, which is unfortunate because I'd love to combine Pichu/Pikachu and Young Link/Link, but due to attributes being so different from their counter parts, it's... a weird territory to enter, especially since you want Melee characters to feel like you remember them.

On that note, I am going to combine the "Nostalgia" Roy in my pack, which plays with animations and attacks from FE6 Binding Blade, with the Melee Roy moveset, so that people who have messaged me can have their Melee Roy just how they remember him, and people who like the Roy I'm using can use him as what I will call the "Eliwood" moveset, which will be selectable by choosing an Eliwood costume over Roy.

Be he's not being worked on right this moment. Others are. And I think everyone'll enjoy them :)

ah, well, I think Ill have to do it myself
I dont intend to change the atributes, I was just alking about the alt costumes and the voice

It has been brought to my attention that cycling through Mario's costumes causes a freeze. This is because I was experimenting with a 12 costumes idea I had and I didn't fix the Fighter or CSSslot for Mario. It should only be him who has those issues. He'll be fixed soon.

Also, Roll's costumes are mismatched with the cosmetics. I know why too, so I'll fix those soon.

Thanks to KWVance for the report.

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If we NEED to we may combine Toon Link and Young Link.

In other news, counting Combo Characters we're now in total up to 94 chRacters! We'll breakk 100 soon enough.

Gotta say that the pack is really amazing now.

Specially now that every character has now their own in-game names and most have their own SFX.

The last is sad for Scorpion though, as he only has the Get Over Here!! SFX.

So I was trying this out and I noticed a few things...

-Mario's costumes 9-12 are screwy...?
-Doc Mario's black costume uses the yellow BP ingame.
-Ganondorf's up tilt doesn't work, I see that it uses Project M's up tilt animation, but it retains its vBrawl PSA data.
-...Knuckle Joe is Mega Man? XD
-Maybe you should use the Smash 4 sound rips for Lucina...?

Thank you for telling me :)

Mario and Ganondorf have been fixed. I'll address the Doc bp too.

As for Lucina, I'll look into the sounds and see what's available. And I don't know about Megaman and Knuckle Joe... I didn't set up my announcer calls.

If you're looking for Lucina sound stuffs, here ya go!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ay2u769g4mrr8lj/AADf7ucwV6t1nfpR4HZPwdXoa/Lucina?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ay2u769g4mrr8lj/AADf7ucwV6t1nfpR4HZPwdXoa/Lucina?dl=0)

Also, if you're interested I'm also kinda working on a Smash 4 Lucina, if you wanted to use costume unique taunts. (Whenever I actually get to animating them...)

I think the 10 - 12 cotsumes are glitched because the cosmetics IDs are probably messing with DKs
I remember I once tried using the 10 -12 costumes but I stepped back because I was afraid it could cause a crash with DK's IDs

Yes, this will be updated soon. I have some things in the game that are being fixed up for a Friday release, so hang tight and we'll get that fixed, and more added :)

so u can combine any two characters that use the same base for a model? ie lucario and mew

you shouldnt use those codes imo the reason brawlex exist is so we dont need to change default ssbb chars imo.

Uh.................

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30472 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30472)

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30464 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=30464)

there needs to be more people u can combine, the roster is getting incredibly hard to see.
like all the extra pokemon

that was made before brawlex and becuase of ridley, if you didnt had a hack on samus she would t stance when tranforming into ridley  and vice versa becuase ridley didnt have transform animations or codding.

im going to make everyone in the roster stick out more, i think the roster background should be totally desaturate, Ill work on making the icon  bg not a gradient and and giving the characters an outline, because it is so hard to see recently

Good news. I was able to restart the sonic/shadow fusion psa and now i have it working right. chaos spear even has its own gfx. now I am going to add the down and up specials, then final smash, and if there is room, smash attacks and maybe taunts

I see you're planning on adding T-Rex to your pack. I would suggest you to wait for the revamp, as the revamp will be over a character with the BrawlEx rel. Alongside better animations and PSA coding.

I'll disagree. I don't think you should keep the release on-hold for one single hack.

Release it when it's good to go, with the best of what's avaliable. You can always update the pack when the hack is released.

Thank you for letting me know. Porting it was considered :D


Ah, I figured that project was scrapped. It's good to hear though. :)

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I'm not. Right now, counting combo chRacters, I've got 8 additions. Some of them need tuning Nd bug fixing, cosmetics, and voices. I might not get it all done before release, but I just need it to feel a little more solid. I put in too mNy incomplete things is all. Nothing will be added until those things are complete, unless whatever's added is complete :)

fixed viewtiful joe moveset finnally, now i need to test it

Moveset? I thought you were just updating textures. What'd you change?

it wasnt the texture tht was screwy in the first place, it was the model made it look that way (not that I could do any better), however I DID find a great model of vj more accurate and such, changed the textures a bit. since this model wasn't all choppy in the first place, the moveset animations screw up (they were already screwy it was just much harder to tell with the other model because it was already messy) things were REALLY noticable with this, mode thoughl, but it looked so good i couldnt give up on it, so i finnally fixed the animations.

Oh nice :) if you send it to me, I'll include it in the update.

ooh, ok. remember its not tested. and this doesnt contain the texture edits (it does the model though) texture no big deal, just heightens contrast here lowered saturation there but here new animations. Replace everything in your fighters/vj folder with the contents of this zipped file

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paper mario freezes occasionnally

I'm pretty sure it's on my end seeing as I load through the Project M Launcher (don't have the proper SD card to load without the launcher) but to be on the safe side in case it aint just me ive noticed Bomberman, Dragonite, and Tabuu fail to load when starting a match (freeze) as well as an alternate costume for Mario freezes on CSS but I do believe that's already being addressed, everything else seems to function properly

Like I said I'm pretty certain those three are caused on my end but to be on the safe side figured I'd leave a reply

Thank you for telling me :) I'll test them again. What stage was it too? I want to replicate everything entirely.

Come to think of it the only map I've tried is Final Destination

cant think of it but its that really annoying one thats DK themed and it keeps scrolling up saying FASTER FASTER.

i was battling that pixelated girl that was also 2d cant think of her name either (lol)

no items were on except for smash ball and the cpu had just gotten it and used it... it ended and I jumped...That is when it froze

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVrbZM5uwY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSVrbZM5uwY)

This looks different.

How did you port a new Special attack?

Okay so I'm going to be up front about the delay:

I've nust been busy. I set the goal of a week as a motivator, and yes we' e got a lot done, but I need to finish some key things:

Balance Kakashi, Broly, and one of the new fighters.
Make sound banks for three of the new fighters.
And then Itman is finishing up a combo character.

The delay is worth the quality I feel we'll deliver, and I'll have a ton of time Thursday, so I belie e Thursday is the realistic release date.

After that, the next update won't be as big be ause of some Combo characters being made using non existent PSA moves and whatnot. But I'm hoping to get this one out Thursday, and in the future I'm just going to update it once every two weeks unless we complete enough things in a amaller amount of time.

I think everyone'll enjoy this update though. I've been reading all the pms and I think I have addressed most concerns. Just hang tight, people messaging me seem ancy for me to release it, but what they don't realize is that I'm just as ancy to release it :) I won't it to be stable and done too. I want to play it :D

So if I were to make a realistic guess, I'd say Thursday. Then expect some new fusions dor the next release for characters that we' e all wanted for a long time :)

I won't do such an early release date commitment in the future, as life doesn't always care about commitments like that. So just give me some more time :) you're gonna like what you play.

I made it so that costumes of shadow set a bit variable that makes it go to a new special

looks exactly like dark links

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what is itman changing? it would probably be done faster if it were done as a group

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is it possible to stop the exiting out of the css after each battle thing? i know its because of the ef files. but you renamed the fitFigher files which they are located in, is there a way to get rid of this problem forever?
like renaming the ef files?

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i feel brawly should come with his own seperate update because just too many things r wrong with him,
his ledge grab is not right
his model is low poly
he is bigger than ridley

upload a file of JUST the parts you want done, i would love to help man :)

i think kakashis moveset should be like in the flashback saga from when he first started training kid to become genin i didnt think it was possible but it looked like he gave less of a care then when he was fighting while reading a book LOL

his final smash should afcourse be kamui

Hey, did you recieve my message?

so...i noticed the badass new css. honestly the greatest one i have ever seen. whens the  update approximatley, until recently i havent even known which parts uve been working on so i didnt no how to help. now im all excited.

I'm here. :)

@Alejandro

I don't believe I have... BV being down has been a huge inconvenience when it came to checking messages. Feel free to resend. :)

@KWVance

That CSS will be used in a later release :) SOLELY because we found a new way to organize the CSS for this release. I REALLY like that one though, so in due time, after we review it and make any position edits we need. Assuming it can sustain all the appropriate icons of course.

Anyway, to all who use my pack and keep up with this thread I am pleased to announce that with the time the vault was down I went ahead and addressed nearly every issue with the characters in the pack with fantastic help from Itman.

A lot of the work done for this release was to add things to all of the characters in order to make them play better, more fair, and feel better. Anything we didn't fix is due to future ideas that will replace those characters, but evne then we still fixed most of those too.

Oh... and we have 101 characters (counting combo PSAs)... so there's that.

:)

We have plans for the future of the project encompassing fusions and the slots they'll create to the current clone engine, as well as how to use slots included in the future clone engine. You can continue to expect great things and our overall goal of quality, as well as pack exclusive model ports, PSA edits (ranging from properties to new attacks) and in the future, exclusive new characters :) Thank you all for reading, the release for the update WILL BE...

when we fix one more moveset. It was going to be tonight, and I was going to allow this character to stay in their current form despite my general dissatisfaction with the character, but due to a recent rethinking we are releasing after this character is done. As I'm reviewing all of the characters that were edited this time around, I can honestly say that all things considered, around half of the characters recieved something to make them better ranging from Captain Falcon's Neutrabl B fire being better, to Spiderman having a new attack instead of his broken counter, to Broly being ironed out and balanced, to Grayfox's entire feel being revamped, and those are just 4 I picked, I mean it when I say that half of these characters either had fixes or edits to them to make them better.

Hang in there everyone, we're almost done. I wouldn't make you wait any longer BUT the reason I am is because we want all of the characters that we know are staying to be "complete" in that we won't have to go back and edit them in the future. This way we can set our sights forward, which means you'll get more characters faster since I won't sit there going "I could release this but... I never did balance Sephiroth or fix his down special in the air's sword glow... eh I'll do it eventually". I wanted to remove all of that and focus on the future.

So hang tight, give us a bit more time, and I PROMISE you won't be dissapointed :)

anyone know how to do this?

you know when you get a smash ball your players eyes turn yellow? I'm working on an improved kakashi model. this kakashi model has a version where both his headband is over one eye and when his headband is lifted up revealing both eyes. (incase you are unaware when he can see with both eyes he is significantly more powerful, this would be his yellow eye equivalent for his smash move.

anyway my question is, how do i apply this to that yellow eye thing.  i basically need to know how character expressions work.

what ever you want to appear when he has the smash ball, set the model's bone visibility to YellowEyeM

does this simply re-arrange the layer order of the objects or does it make an object temporarily disappear all together? if so, how does it know which object to make vanish? might be easier to explain zss' expressions to me.

Here's a tutorial on doing model changes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS79S6VYpnc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS79S6VYpnc)
I think you're better off doing this if you don't want the object to last the entire final smash.

I am making the zipped file as small as possible for easy download. Pack will be up tonight. Be sure to read the update I'll put in the original OP. It will contain a fix list among other general additions, as well as talk about certain things you can expect to see in the future so long as you stick with Brawl 4 All. See you all tonight!

Message re-sent.

I must ask with characters being combined.... will it mess up the unique things such as how much different dark samus was from samus..  also will psa such as mario/docter mario or pikachu/pichu be combined. That opens up another slot which can hold majin vegeta && replace regular vegeta with a new character.

I see it :) I'll get to it after I finish releasing this. Just let me finish up here.

@BrawlBoy

Combined characters share the same attributes, but by modifiying their run animation you can change the run speed, and you can change the jump height and fall as well. All characters that are combined will be modified to work alongside the attributes they unfortunately must share. So if I put a character as fast as Sonic over Ganondorf, I would change things around about that Sonic moveset to make it work better and feel more balanced, considering it's on Ganondorf. Or I might decide not to do it at all. But I tihnk the combinations we've done right now make since, and all of our planned ones still make sense :) Attributes are definately something we consider when we combine PSAs.

Great i can't wait to see how this goes... I think the combined characters are good only reason why i asked cause some people feel like Marth/lucina are to much alike.

So the only reason it didn't come out tonight is because I forgot to add in a file that was made, and then another one that was made but had a conflict we needed to fix, and then I saw off a military buddy. So I'm going to bed, but the pack is being compressed as we speak so that first thing when I wake up I can upload it :)

Is the pack updated already? :D

Yeah it is
and Roy's Up-B in this version is weird. On the ground its perfectly fine. in the air it doesn't hit anyone at all and Roy drops like a rock, as if he suddenly gained 100 lbs in 5 seconds. please fix that, Roy's recovery was already bad to begin with.
Eliwood doesn't have this problem though.

I must say as far as the ganon psa's go the fusions were very nice but I believe hector was just ike in a skin and Roy just doesn't play as well anymore. Also the fact they all have to share the same finals is rather unpleasing but isn't a big deal. I see this project freeing up many more slots if some needs are fixed but over all it was WELL worth the wait far as balancing and over all game play goes. This helps me in my work with my pack a lot also

i need to know a couple a things.
whats the purpose of the "al" file in RSBE, and what do the .bins inside it do?
what happend to the menu file inside of pf?

and petey piranahs cages are messed up, the textures probably coded incorrectly
idk if its just me, but after a played a match with petey and samus, the screen was black when it got to the results and froze

That's weird, I'll definitely look into that. Thank you. Little things like this will not require a wait for a future release, so separate links will be put on the OP for fixes and the pack itself will be updated as well for new comers. Let's see what's going on...


Well, the Roy is Melee Roy now. It's Eliwood who plays like the previous Roy and then some. Are you referring to the Up special as well? We'll be looking into it. As for Hector, he's not done yet per say. In the future I'd like to change his neutral special and up special.


What costumes and level? Let me see if I can duplicate this...

Yes, his falling is really fast and the combo doesnt connect the same anymore.... also i was looking at samus and dark samus. I think the port would work really well as dark samus doesnt have anything to crazy. another thing what happen to the announcer calls?

i think it was because there was no menu file

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we need to organize this thred a bit

other stuff

Hello,

I am starting my own BrawlEx pack, and I was wondering how you got characters like Petey Pirahna to work.

BTW, this is my very first comment on the site, so good for me?

He ported him over Marth.
IDK how he made it.

Hey nebulon do you have a 4gb gct. if not could i get your codes list so i can add it myself?

Sure :) I believe I'll have to make one so I'll post that here soon.

And to everyone, HELLO! Sorry, I've been inactive, I had my birthday on the weekend and several different groups of friends wanted to celebrate it so it's been an ongoing thing, but now everything's back to normal, and I'm now working on my next fusion/unique PSA with Itman :)

ALSO, we have a Roy fix now, so I'll be uploading that separately soon as well.

The new moveset in question is one desired by many, but ultimately not translated well for the game, but being a big fan of the series this guy's from I think this may just be his best incarnation for Brawl, so we'll see :)

We're also moving forward into a phase called "project resurrection" which is our focus for the newer additions in the pack.

If you are fluent in PSA or animating and want to help out with "resurrection" please pm me, the more people help, the faster we can get these out :)

would you add me to the team thingy as PSA Fusioner or  something like that?

Can we know which PSA is that?

Happy late birthday , i didn't know it was last weekend. how was it? oh and did you get my pm

Sure :) Would you like to see what we're working towards? If so I can send you a pm and we can talk :)


YOU know what it is ;) But we'll keep it under wraps.

Then let me in.
I have some stuff you might need. ;)

I dont know if the Pack take Character request but I request Crash Bandicoot PSA by Calikingz01. The one over IceClimber. You can use Brawlex slot clone of IceClimber to do it.

You can't clone the Ice Climbers.

EDIT: Whoops. Double post.

At this point, it doesn't matter what character a PSA is over, they can all be ported/fused (like I did with Petey and Gun Slinger -- there aren't really too many limitations on these things anymore). I already ported Crash, but Nebulon and I feel that the PSA needs to be changed a little bit to represent Crash more, and we will be working on him later on, after our current goals have been reached. If anybody wants to help with Crash actually, you can PM me, I'd love to hear some ideas for moves.

If there is a PSA you want Nebulon to check out, let him know through a PM! It doesn't matter which character they're over, we'll deal with that part. At this point, I think he's seen every major PSA on the vault, but if there is a lesser known one or one that just has a couple of cool moves, let him know.

Also, keep reporting glitches as you find them! Nebulon and I have been very busy over the last week and haven't been able to do a lot of testing, so it really helps us out.

Sent a relatively dense PM to Nebulon.

sure. also, i am thinking of sticking with Onii-Chan for my username, instead of going back to sonicbrawler, so put down Onii-Chan

Let's talk via PM so we keep this thread on topic :P

each update, the changes have been kinda secret up until the release. could we please not do this so others can help? i just hope this  next update is trying to polish the mod instead of add more characters because, its getting a little overwhelming.

Well Nebulon now that I've got some free time I'd love to join in and help in anyway.

Hello everyone, some quick updates:

Things have been slow, I'm busy with work and some of the projects that we're taking on right now are a little more... needy then we're used to.

Nevertheless, we are pushing forward, slowly. Combining characters isn't too difficult after all, but when you're trying to make a new character out of a combined character... well it can take a while. I've had to redo some of the choices I made, but it's almost ready to be given it's... gimicks...

Unfortunately, I'd like to keep the things we work on secret unless people want to help out. But tell ya what, we've got A LOT of characters incoming, so I'll reveal that the moveset we're working on right now is...

Master Chief.

Some of you knew, some of you didn't, but the moveset is almost entirely mapped out. We're making some final choices on the basic attacks before we move on to his specials, and it's my personal belief that the specials will really give MC his identity, along with his sound effects.

But the most key identifier will be his energy shield gimick, which will play into how one of his special works.

The thought behind how we decided to do him was actually compared to Snake. Snake is an iconic character and he uses some of his arsenal, but nothing too notable. MGS fans know that Snake has a Socom in MGS1, and a Mk22 Hushpuppy in 3 when it was Bigboss. These don't appear in Brawl (PM has the traq gun though) but what he uses still works. So you won't see MC with the MA5B Assault Rifle, but you'll see some familiar things, like Snake. And I think the energy shield gimick is really gonna make him unique. We're doing our best with him.

To put what we have into perspective, if PW updated the clone engine right now we'd have 3 movesets ready to be put in. We need some modeling help and bone help for a 4th moveset (which will be easy once that's done since we're essentially just reskinning a moveset) and after that we'd need help with some bone edits in an existing moveset to make it work nicer.

So all in all, we have other things done, but those characters need their own slot. Which is why Master Chief is being worked on, though we do have one slot open, but that's for the 4th PSA we have that needs some modeling help. Basically, we just need a model of a weapon as an external GFX. It exists on a model, so if someone can take it and turn it into an external gfx, then we'll let you in on what's going on :)

And of course, we have levels fully ready to be put in if PW updates the stage expansion code.

On a more personal note, I've got some "things" going on in my personal life that has been sort of keeping me from being as committed as I want, so ANY help is definitely appreciated. If you know how to make external gfx out of character model pieces, PLEASE pm me, we'll be able to update a character, and add in a new one.

If you know how to PSA and want to help out with our list of combo characters, please pm me. :)

I know this update wasn't too exciting, but I figured it was enough of an explanation. Anyway, hope to hear form some of you soon. I gotta go, I'm going insane because there's a guy slopping food inhis mouth next to my ear and I can barely focus on what I'm typing. It's driving me cr-anyway, see you guys later.

Is Master Chief going to be an alternate, or a lone character?

BTW, I have the MA5C-ICWS Assault Rifle model in obj.

Also a frag grenade.

Forgot to mention all of his SFX from Halo 3 and Firefight from Halo Reach.

Nebulon, seeing as you need some announcer calls, I'd be willing to do it for you. It would be nice to have them. I'd do all of the characters so its not a bunch of different announcers as well.

Does the code that separates samus and ZSS let you use bigger filesize PSA for both of them?
I want to know because if it does I would like to have it if you don't mind

i always thought it would be neat if the announcer was a female with a British accent ^.^ there's some pretty great voice synthesizers out there, one even fooled me for a while and i thought it was a person, there expensive but they almost always have something like a 30 character demo people can use

Quick question, how would one use this through homebrew and gecko? I've tried a lot, but it just makes a bunch of pokemon stadium stage copies appear in the stage select?

Make sure that the hook is NextFrame.
If it is Default, then you'll have some problems.

If that doesn't help, then re-download the pack, delete everything from the SD card, and put all the stuff from the download there.

The pack is extremely stable. Played for about two hours without backing out of the CSS and didn't get a freeze

Master Chief will be a combo character with Snake. I saw some of those links you sent :) I don't know if we'll end up needing those models, but we'll see.


It indeed does, however I don't have it off hand, I just know it exists and would have to find it again.


I like a female announcer as well, however I have no plans to do anything with announcer calls so I don't actually have much of a preference.


Very nice to hear :)

As far as updates go, we want to edit Spiderman a bit, and Cali's new Megaman has been adapted to be compatible with my build.

I'm going to be working on something that I feel adds to the identity of the pack, which I know isn't as exciting, but is necessary for giving it it's own sort of "official" feel.

Also I believe the poll has been up long enough, I NEED SOME INPUT ON SOMETHING ELSE.

So I'm getting kind of tired of the CSS background. Don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, I just think it might be time to change the way it looks. Something a little more simple as opposed to all of those colors... A little less striking, while still getting people in the mood to Brawl.

What should I change the background of the CSS to? Vote at the top what you think, and send me links to what you think it be. :)

And yes we're still working on other characters. Don't worry. ;)

First of all, thanks for your considerable work around this mod Nebulon, it was the answer i looked for between high number of characters and stages. Its my first post on this forum and I truly think you deserve more praise and thanks for what you do (pls forgive my bad English this is not my native language).

Some things could be upgraded though =>

At last I will talk about TLOZ characters, they are my favorites :

OoT Ganondorf is just fantastic, nothing to say. But The base ganondorf is awful, the Demise skin is worng and is moveset too because the two are merged.

The best, from my point of view, should be to put Demise in a separate folder, with a proper skin (his hair are awful actually) he could be played like in this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2_JBzr-Py8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2_JBzr-Py8)

The original Ganondorf is bad, I know your pack dont change the base char but this Ganondorf truly is a bad and unworthy shadow from what he could be, his textures are bad (when you compare to this texture hack : https://www.mediafire.com/?8a3ehjede0z5h8n (https://www.mediafire.com/?8a3ehjede0z5h8n) ), his moves are just ... well poors, especially when you know this Ganondorf exist : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1pvhVWW4I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc1pvhVWW4I)

So the best of all should be to have OoT Ganondorf, Ganondorf with sword and Demise in three différents slots as we have three of four slots for Links.

Girahim could be added in his own slot too since he now support a complete moveset : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLwoG1ISmuM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLwoG1ISmuM)

Skull Kid from OoT could have his own slot instead of being fused, as he have voices, moveset and icons I think : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QONDQV4_8o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QONDQV4_8o)

Those chars truly deserves more love I guess, even If i'm happy with the mod as he is actually.

The Eldin stage could be upgrded two with this version : http://www.mediafire.com/?vsp195h76kk34ne (http://www.mediafire.com/?vsp195h76kk34ne)

By the way the game freeze always when i try to change the stage musics in the option and the kirby meteoric stage crash the game for me.

Aha, oh I don't deserve too much, I've got help from other users. I'm just trying to give people a good time :) I'm still working on it, even now I'm trying to make updates aha.

I could update the pack now, but the fixes are miniscule. I mean the new Megaman is in but we're trying to fix one more thing about him and then we'll update it. Might be able to fit in a new character by then too :)



Oh, I'm aware.



That Demise model is better, but we need one that has a sword attached to the model, the way ours is. The sword he uses isn't actually a separate object :/ So I'd need some outside help to achieve this.

And OoT Ganon is good, I made some modifications to it from it's original release, as has Itman, but overall I think we're on the right track.



It's not that I don't agree, because I do :) It's that I don't want to change the original characters. I just don't. Fans on Brawl's Ganon exist, and since that's the first Ganon they knew in Brawl, I can't remove it. This mod is for normal users who want extra, not something different, ya know? But I promise, we share the same opinion.



Well, we're actually getting rid of Link slots to make room. We're keeping the characters, we're just combining the ones that make sense to combine... combining characters is a good thing for people who want to use a similar character but a little differently. Demise is an example of a character that's VERY different, and in the future I'd like to make all other combinations characters as different as he is.



We may look into him in the future, but he will probably receive some changes. He's a good idea though, definitely worth looking into, I like the character himself.



To be honest I don't feel this Skull Kid would fit in with the rest of the mod unfortunately. I think the designer had a vision that isn't quite the same as the style we're going for. For that reason this Skull Kid will not be used.



They do. I agree. Perhaps in the future, I don't plan on stopping for a while.



Since I don't want to replace original levels, I will probably just add this in as an alternate stage once a level expansion comes out. I'm sitting on 100+ levels and music ready to be added, and depending on the room, I'm sure I can fit in most level suggestions, though that's really up to PW as to how much room we'll have to work with. So we'll have to wait and see :)



I know it does :/ it has that music crashing glitch, I believe there's a way to reset it, I just haven't done it.


To everyone else, I know I've been quiet, I've been trying to make more characters play better and feels more "correct" and useful.

I gotta go, but I want people who use my pack to please share your opinions to me in PM about character balancing. I'm only one guy with my partner Itman with 61 characters to balance, so I need feedback on how to make certain ones better, as well as who's fine just where they are.

I'd really appreciate that :) It would help me release faster if I knew who was fine.

When i replaced my sd card stuff with the download, and reaplaced Fitroy.pac,
nothing happens. Is it because im running the game on an wbfs file? I don't know whats wroung.
 Sad. 16gb micro sd in sd adapter

Did somebody say...
CSS????

If you don't know who I am then forget it for a while because you'll find out soon, but Nebulon knows who I am.

I made the current CSS background back when I was in PM customizing, and it was oddly popular. If you're in need of a new bg I can work on something.

oh forgot to tell I used your build s a base for mine lol, I hope you dont mind I gave the respective credits already tho

The Doqtor's in! I sent a you a pm :)


Anyone can do whatever they want with my build. But thank you :)

Oh, and to the regulars, we have an update coming soon. Get ready... the next two updates will include some pretty cool additions :)

I'm not back just yet. You'll know when I'm really back.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vpE6uMJ37dk/UOScrne47aI/AAAAAAAAEL4/Ki-4IWO-SoY/s1600/ron-paul.gif)

Just a suggetion, it would be really cool if you can feature some more KH characters such as Riku, Axel, Roxas, Saiz, Marluxia, etc. I understand if you are busy with other projects, but can you teach me how to do it? I've been trying to for the past 3 days. I look at threads and videos. But i cant seem to get it.

I hate to be this guy, but is there any guides on running this, hackless, on an SDHC card?  Ive been trying all evening.

Do you mean PSAs or models? I definately want more inventive movesets, the problem is optimizing them to feel as fluid as the characters in my build do now. Kingdom Hearts is a series I want to visit. (I sort of have theme that I go to, as in in my mind I'm looking into DBZ character poetintial now, Nautro and Kirby) Kingdom Hearts fans deserve to be apart of Brawl 4 All, so I can say that I'm definately interested in trying to get one or two movesets in, but perhaps not this update or the next one. This update and the next are the ones we have plans for.

However if we go to personal messages and you send me the highest quality Kingdom Hearts movesets, I'll put review them and see if I can make them match with the standards I have in place :)


I'm actually looking into SDHC cards myself, I just haven't made a version yet for that, and I don't know how to do hackless :/ But this is a BrawlEx build, so asking one of the regulars in the BrawlEX forum may help you, unfortunately I just don't have the proper experience.

I hate to be the responder to this guy, but hackless + SDHC is not possible. Sorry.

I hate to be that guy, but there actually is a way.
http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/2119co/tutorial_how_to_get_hackless_project_m_to_work_on/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/2119co/tutorial_how_to_get_hackless_project_m_to_work_on/)
just replace project M with Nebulon's brawl pack.

So I've been busy... because I'm applying a code that'll double the levels.

More on that later, since I think I need to give a big update to the OP.

But I've got a new question in the poll and it's important. Be sure to participate. :)

Is it possible to use characters from the vault? I try to import characters and everytime i load up Brawlex, It sends me an error message when i click on the pf folder from B4A. Can i do anything to get past this?

I sent you a pm.

I can't wait for this new version to be released.

Gimme the SFX so I can port them.

I was pretty happy with the result of combining Deadpool and Buu in a single slot for their SFX.

I'd like to know what's my next goal.

To Nebulon:

I've been watching this pack for quite some time and, what can I say? I'm impressed. However, there are a few suggestions I would like to make:

Adding the Simon Belmont moveset over ToonLink- All he truly needs are cosmetics. Other than that, he's good to go. As for the PSA itself, it's fun to play with and would probably fit in with your pack quite nicely!

The Emerl over Fox moveset and T-Rex over Yoshi movesets work surprisingly well with a simple Marth REL. Emerl does, however, have a problem with his final smash (it doesn't do any damage), but T-Rex works just fine.

Combo characters- You know how you merged Olimar with Louie from Brawl DX? A thought occured to me- why not do the same for Meta Knight and Dark Meta Knight? It would add a Kirby representative, not take up slot real estate, and it would be consistent! Dark Pit and Pit, Diddy and Dixie, as well as Ness and Ninten would work, too.

Other stuff/Character recommendations- Roll's MM8 costume seems to freeze. Not sure why, but it does (for me at least  :P). Silver over Diddy could also work, seeing as there's a Diddy REL. Either of the Isaac movesets would also be neat, and add another playable assist trophy. Porting KJP's Scizor over Falco to Marth like you did for Petey and Axl would also be great (I tried using a Marth REL without porting, but it caused the S-Tilt to OHKO everything.).

I understand you have a LOT of work to do, and I admire you for that. Please consider my suggestions.

Sincerely, rk12

We try :) We really do.


Let's hear them!


In his current state, he actually deviates too much from the PSAs we're looking for. There were ideas to fix him, but due to some of the things we're up to, he is not on our list of current projects.


Those two movesets are currently being looked at :) Both are intended to join, Emerl as a combo character, and T-Rex is pending to either be combined with Raptor, or to be put in solo. So we'll see. Either way, they're on our list already :)


We would, however our intention is to make a combo character for Galactaknight. I haven't Seen Dark Metaknight though, so I don't know what sort of moves he has that might be available, but depending on how different he plays, we may borrow a move or two. It all depends. But Galactaknight is being conceived right now. To put it into perspective, this is what's on our plate:

A combo character for Buu in the works
A combo character for Broly in the works
Balancing a moveset for build
Fixing Glitch for character A
Fixing Glitch for character B
Fixing Glitch for character C
Re textures for Goku
Retextureing a lower poly model for Spiderman and addressing his web lag
Creating proper model and fitmotion bone edits for secret character A
Creating proper models fr secret character B
A complete revamp of a moveset for secret character C
Stage related fixes
BRSTM creation
Villager's pocket move
Link and Dark Link combination

And then next in line is a few more combo character ideas.

Of those combo ideas you actually hit the nail on the head with our intentions:

Diddy and Dixie (though the primary creator for that has been out of contact since the site went down :/ )

Ness and Ninten (The issue here is deciding how to make him play, since really most of the PSI powers that Ness uses are powers he didn't use, Paula did however. So I was considering her at one point since Ninten's powers from Mother 1 (Earthbound 0) were as limited as Ness'. So we'll see basically, but Ninten is definately considered)

Pit and Dark Pit (We just need someone to make Dark Pit from Smash 4. At this point in time we have too much on our plate to want to make a Smash 4 Dark Pit moveset. So we're hoping by the time we finish some of our creations, Smash 4 movesets will become more of a common thing on the vault).


I've been asked to look at the Isaacs, I just haven't aha I'm busy with my stages right now is all. But I intend to, he's a very highly demanded character, so I'm sure he's got something about him that's appealing.

The Silver we're going for will be a combination of the Diddy one and the Falco one.

Scizor is in the plans as a combination with Falco :)


We're all doing our best :) Amazingly, most of your suggestions are already in the cards so... we have preemptively considered them :D


In due time. I need to actually have a new character close to completion first. However, if you'd like to acquire sound clips from scratch, I'll pm you :) There is one character I can't find a sawnd for, so if someone could at least gather some clips, that would help us a lot :)


Me neither :D

There's a lot of cool things coming down the road, so we're all very excited to get everything nice and tidy for a release and a good old Brawl night, only so that we can then take it all apart and put it back together again with new things in mind :) I'm just as excited as you are.

Let me see what can I do.

I made the Halo and Mortal Kombat announcer SFX from my pack.
The only problem I had so far was with the "Slayer" one, but all others work fine.

update on the sonic/shadow fusion:
all specials are pretty much done. next will be final smash. then maybe smash attacks.

This thing...
Are you going to use it in the pack and delete the Shadow PSA, or keep it?

Funny you should mention, I have been working on fusing Metaknught and Dark Metaknight! So far I've gotten his Dark Meta's S-Smash done. All I really need to do now is finish his D-Air and S-Special, then post to the vault, so you could take a look and evaluate (I know you've concived GalactaKnight, but looking would still be good).



As for Ness + Ninten, I would imagine Ninten having stronger PSI attacks (PK Flash, Fire, etc), but weaker physical attacks (Bat swing, kick, etc), while Ness would be more balanced compared to Ninten. Alternatively, a user named Alses made a moveset for Ness that was a hybrid of his and PM Lucas' moveset, so there's that, too.



It should be worth noting that someone did make a DarkPit moveset... sort of. It is more based on the PM Pit moveset, but it does feature some of Sm4sh DP's traits (different arrow, stronger attacks, etc) so you might want to check it out. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=39746&Moderated=All (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?ByUserID=39746&Moderated=All)



YES. I would certainly recommend either of the Isaacs (once you're finished with stages, of course). However, they do have issues (one gets stuck with Down B in air, and the other can use Up B forever with no Psynergy points). I'd still reccomend them, though.



I see... so perhaps, I'm a clairvoyant?  ;D  Also, I feel very honored talking with you. You're like, my hero or something.

Really? Let me PM you about that then. That sounds promising :)



Hmm... I want to avoid clone characters as much as possible (Unless they existed, like Pichu, or the character is a clone from another game practically like Ken and Ryu) as in characters have to have a few different moves rather than just properties. So more of a Falco then a Young Link, ya know? In my mind... I can't pick out too many differences between the two. I mean I like Earth Bound 0 but I can't think of what exactly would separate the two... But Ninten is sort of the last protagonist from the series that isn't included... I mean I could do Poo and Susan obviously... Poo could be cool... (I don't recommend quoting me out loud in the work place aha) Yeah... it would have to be Ninten. That way the voice can be the same.

We have an idea for Lucas, but that's going to wait a bit. I think people will be very pleased though :)



That'll be a good foundation for sure. But I'd still need the shield front and back, the new Up special, and forward special. As for normal attacks... I know some of the animations are probably similar and I don't THINK that Dark Pit has anything that is dissimilar to his moveset in Brawl. If someone just made those specials (which would require that Side Special item) then we'd put those in in no time.

I could just do the fusion with the Dark Pit available, but I don't want him to turn into Hector, where we put in a combo character who we plan on working on later... but then sort of neglecting for the time being. I mean I have ideas for him, but I'm just a bit preoccupied. In my mind, my window for PSA needs to close for this update so that I don't start something and want to postpone release, so I'll hold off and see where everyone else is at and release soon before I finish Hector. But yeah, to avoid the Hector neglect, I'll PROBABLY still wait to put in Dark Pit, unless there's enough demand for him.



There's a plan for him, but it's a secret for now. :X



Aha maybe :D

And the pleasure is mine. I love talking to my pack users to hear what they think and feel about it. It's Brawl for "ALL" for a reason, I feel like I'm working with a community, so I'm just as honored as you are. :)

But I'm going to PM you about Dark Metaknight. We'll move to there.

*follows this thread*

only reason i use a 2gb is because i thought that was the only way when u use gecko

It used to be, you're right.
But the SDHC Extension code lets you use longer GB SD Cards or SDHC.

I seem to be having trouble. Ridley keeps freezing the game. I have tried re-adding I have tried making the SD again, tried different zip programs to unzip, but within a minute of the match Ridley will always cause a freeze for me.

The freeze seems to happen each time he lands or get hit while in free fall, or helpless state.

I was going to refrain from posting on this, but it looks like it cannot be helped.

First, excellent work on this build. Everything's fairly organized and the PSAs are great. I'm also interested in the dual roster code you mentioned.

Secondly, pertaining to the Ninten + Ness discussion: Ninten fights completely different than Ness, as he has no offensive PSI whatsoever, instead relying on stat boosts like OffenseUp or DefenseUp.

Third, pertaining to the Meta Knight fusions: I personally would like to see all three Knights in the build, instead of Meta Knight + Dark Meta Knight or Meta Knight + Galacta Knight. But that's more wishful thinking than anything.

Last, pertaining to the Eliwood PSA: Would it be possible at all to make it public? I'm interested in using it in my own BrawlEx and I'm sure a lot of other people would be too.

That's why I felt Paula might be a better fit. :) Ninten is just more iconic. But we'll see.

Oh, I didn't notice those other questions... that's weird...


The problem is that a future project of mine is to have 4 models available for all of the movesets.  Metaknight can only have 10 though, which means that Galactaknight and Dark Metaknight would only get 3 spaces each.

So I'm debating on how important it is to make the characters fully available for a 4 play match.

I might make a poll about it once I've gathered enough information with the current poll.


If you're referring to a standalone separate Eliwood PSA, there is none. The PSA was taken apart from other Marth PSAs and was used to create the combo character we have.

If you mean you want the combo character Roy and Eliwood itself then I'd have to clear it with the guy who worked on it and figure out who to credit for the original animations and what not. Then release it.

In fact that^ is the reason I haven't put my pack on the Vault yet. I know it would get more people to look at it and whatnot, but it's not fair for me to upload it to the vault without full credit to everybody who made the original PSAs, stages, music, menu cosmetics, codes, etc.

But clearing it for one moveset is different so if there is demand for it, I could see what I could do.

I wouldn't object to the Knights having less slots for colors, that's a minor flaw, but this isn't my project. I support any decision regardless, just as long as the fusion comes out good.

As for Eliwood, I am aware that the PSA is a put-together of other PSAs, and that's what interested me. I'm sure removing the attributes and animations from Roy's .pac files would be a nightmare though, but it didn't hurt to inquire. If you and whoever else developed it ever get around to separating those things and make Eliwood a standalone character (to download, not for your build), that would be a cool bonus.

My feedback: Make Dixie a clone, her moveset right now is glitchy and doesn't make sense.

Update Rosalina.

Hooray!, do certain files still need to be a certain size?

Of course yes.
Everything still has a filesize limit like in Gecko.

If I want to add a character into this how would I do so?

You better check the BrawlEx thread for that.

Sorry I'm new at this haha. So if I wanted to add a character from another brawlex pack into this what files would I need, where would i put them, and what files would need to be modified? The brawlex thread made it a bit confusing.

Seriously i've been waiting for weeks for this pack. Could you please upload the current state of this pack? Hope it isn't a trouble.

And thanks for the great work.

I'm adding in ine more character. He's almost done. I'll upload soon, and if I don't then you all can have thw build I have now but I can't guarantee everything is stable.

I'm using Dolphin right now and I only know how to get it working using 2gb virtual cards or under. Do you know of anyway I can make a 4gb raw sd card file?

Also for some unknown reason the stage Asteroids always crashes my game in all builds not just yours (Dolphin issue?). If you can replace it with a more stable stage that would be great.

Some stages in this pack freeze the game randomly on any version.
It is wierd, but it commonly happens the first times you play them and with certain characters.

IDK how to use Dolphin, but to use SD card with more than 2GB you'll need the SDHC Extension code.
I've only tested it with SDHC cards (because of the name), but I believe you can use it with other cards.

Ok I got Dolphin working with 4GB now although technically I could create a sd file of any size as long as it's not bigger then the free space I have on my computer I just used this tutorial and linked file and it worked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI5JEwVRHso (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI5JEwVRHso)

Although note that you have to have less then 2GB of free space left on the raw file or else Dolphin won't apply the hack codes correctly. This is good news though meaning Dolphin users can now use any size SD cards and you don't need the SD card extension file either. Just use regular loading method for Project M and it works fine. I'm not sure exactly how it works on a Wii as mine broke a few years ago and I've just been using Dolphin lately: Make sure to use a current Dev build at least this month or newer.

Edit: By regular I mean the regular Dolphin homebrew boot.elf loading method as described here:  http://afriendlyfox.com/2013/07/22/project-m-super-smash-bros-brawl-mod-on-the-dolphin-wii-emulator/ (http://afriendlyfox.com/2013/07/22/project-m-super-smash-bros-brawl-mod-on-the-dolphin-wii-emulator/)

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Anyways looking forward to your next version of this mod. Hope you are done with it soon. If you aren't going to finish it soon can you at least upload the current pack?

How do I get this onto the Wii? Do I just put the " All Char " folder into the SD card and put it into the wii or what? Please help!

You need to install homebrew channel and install gecko, I recommend using smash stack for smash bros brawl as you already have the disk and Wii anyways if you want to hack smash bros.

Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34rKsHYU84 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e34rKsHYU84)

As for Nebulon waiting paitently for your pack to come out. Looking forward to it. But I still play a lot of Project M and a merger of Brawl Infinite Stages and your Characters. Works pretty good except a few stages randomly glitch out and a few crashes happen occasionally if I don't exit out of the CSS every match.

You're all getting more than I've shown.

February 7th.

Be ready.

:)

All right, this Saturday.

Are you sure you don't need my help yet?

I'm sure :) But I have a project for you for the next update (It never ends for me ahahahahaaa) Let's go to pm.

I know how to instal Homebrew, but what do I do with the Nebulon Rar. I have the following: ALL CHARS(WinRAR), Features for Brawl 4 All(Text Document), Fit.Roy.pac(PAC File), Read meNO SERIOUSLYRead me(Text document), what do I do with all this?

The folder that is inside All chars should go to your SD card with the Apps/BootMii/Codes ect go into the base of your SD card and keep all the subfolders the same. Then go into Private/Wii/App/RSBE/PF/Fighter/Roy and put the Fit.Roy.Pac file in that folder.

Hopefully those instructions are clear enough.

As for Nebulon I'm glad your releasing soon, I look forward to seeing the new stuff. As for items two completely different sets would be cool. I don't use items much but variety with items is always good.

As for Fusions go, maybe Snake/Mastercheif/Batman. Something like that is cool. Pit/Issac might be a good idea as well also mabye Zero/Saki of course I'm not sure what is actually possible with fusions and not even sure if PSA's exist to make those yet.

whats the point of hacking a game if we are not changing everything we can? :v

I don't get the question in poll.

So I put all that on the SD card, how do I find it on the Wii. I did what Project M usually does and nothing happened, and just went to melee, no new ppl, what now? Eveyrthing that was inside " All CHARS " folder stay in there also? D I need Homebrew? Also what do I do with Text Document? Can Homebrew work as of 2015?

Your not loading it right for sure. You have to delete your old files and then load with gecko but you need to install homebrew first to install the gecko channel then launch brawl from that. I'm not sure if this supports the hackless method.

I finally got it working =D, everything that was in the All Chars folder ( not WinRAR ) had to be in the SD Card, and then open it with Homebrew, thanks for your help! =D

basically when switching to the next 2 pages of stages. It would come with... New pokemon and new items. While keeping the original things on the first one.

This might be dumb but... still don't get it.

Well, I might just need to wait 'till this Saturday.

What he means is that when you switch stage packs, the items and pokemon switch as well.

Hi!! I`m new in the forum but wow your work are.... the greatest !!!

but i have a question your mod pack works on a normal sd of 2, 4 8 or more sd card? currently im using a 2 gb card, but your next realease suggest a bigger card which should i buy? (sorry for syntax errors, not speak English very well)

Hey, I can understand you just fine :)

So, you will want a 4 GB card for the primary edition of the new build. That will contain all of the new stages, and in the future the primary build will eventually be the only build we update. So I recommend you get a 8 GB SDHC card :). Not a Micro SD card, but the normal SDHC 8 GB card.

You will only need a 4 GB to play this build, but depending on what codes we get working, you may need a 8 GB, so I'd say just get the 8 GB. In my build, I have the project M launcher, and in my GCT I have the codes to play off of a SDHC card, so all you'll need to play my build is a modded Wii.

I also use the app called Bootmii, but I don't tihnk that's necessary.

While I'm no expert, I can link you to forums about SDHC cards, and Bootmii, if you want.

:) I hope this helps.

Wow thanks! I like the scene and I love smash bros, also amazes me that so friendly in this community especially newcomers, with the current pack I use a sd 2 gb and cfgusbloader it was normal that sometimes will not start it? right?

Will Diablos have his FS back in this pack? :)

When it sends me to mediafire, they're no files...

I believe it's been said before that if the files were not visible that could mean that the new files could be being uploaded,  and with the release being today (tomorrow based on timezone) it very well could be the cause :)

Additionally I seen in an earlier post that we should use a 4 or 8gb SDHC card and not micro,  to be sure before I go out and buy another card,  would a micro 8gb SDHC card work in an adapter or does it have to be a regular 8gb?

Currently I'm guessing it doesn't work but hey if I'm wrong I won't complain,  don't need to find a new card xD

Can not wait for this release, been waiting since 2014 xD

No but seriously i'm bored asfk. :(

I just went onto my other PC and downloaded t, must've been some kind of browser problem. The next update, you should add Master Hand.

I'm on my phone and don't have time to reapond to all of the posts in the thread today...




But it's conibg tonight. And I'm excited :) I'll respond to more things later when I'm home. The upload will begin around 8pm East Coast time.

And I have more goodies in there than what I revealed.

Do we want to hear any or wait??

I
I feel actually freaking good, that this pack's coming tonight ;D

And yes i don't mind to listen anything about your hard work, i believe it is better to know what we will face, this way we can exploit the new features more.

Suprise us!!

I'd say tell us what is new :)

What is coming our way thanks to the team:


;)

What is listed above isn't everything, little things were done, models swapped, I did some retextures, etc. But what's above are the juicy things that I did and the contributions everyone else did.

I'll be uploading tonight around 8pm. That means it may be available later to much later. But it will be available.

See you all then!

i finsihed the sonic/shadow fusion but it only has differetn specials. do you want that? or do you want to wait to see if i can add in a new FS for shadow and smashes and what not. or that could be added in later in an update.

Pretty sure you should finish it first so that it's as identical as possible to the already existing shadow psa. Of course I'm not Nebulon but I think he's going to upload his current pack in like 1 hour which means it probably won't be available to download until probably after midnight easter standard time.

Anyways I'm pretty excited, first pack to feature 103 playable characters and 156 stages so yeah that's pretty cool.

Around 30 more min!! Also are the stage qualites ( when you have the crosshair above a stage ) going to be higher?

Yay, downloading now. It's going to take awhile because mediafire is so slow but at least I'll get it eventually...

The game freezes up when I try to play as Fighter Kirby. Has anyone else encountered this or is it a problem with my game?

I'll let you know when I install it. The download is estimated to take me like 8 hours from now though. I use Dolphin though so I might encounter glitches that might not happen on a real Wii (and certain things might work fine that is broken on a real Wii)

HOLY SMOKES WHERE HAVE I BEEN?!?!? Is this for real? Insta-download!!! Wait...is there a Project M version of this?

You should divide the pack in at least 3 parts.

I mean, 3 different .rar files.

When I try to download a .rar file with more than 500 MB, the file tempts to corrupt as time goes on.

How do I access the third and fourth pages of stages?

How do I access the new maps using a Wii-Mote?

I'm not a Gamecube/Classic Controller user.

You access the new maps by pressing "X" and "Y" on the 1st player controller before going to the SSS.

For Wii-mote Users, press "-" and "A" before going to the SSS.

I should put the Wii-mote one somewhere... it's not in the notepad I ujploaded.

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Fixed, it's in the notepad!  ;D Sorry about that.

I do have a patch that needs to come out though unfortunately. But I'll handle that tomorrow. For tonight, goodnight.

Well can't get the 4gb version to work in Dolphin, I suppose I'll wait for the 2gb version and see if that works.

So we need to download the whole pack again to have that code?

Ok the downside is I couldn't get 3.5 to work with the dual roster code and 4gb file code, the good news is that I was able to merge all the normal data from the normal RSBE file and fit it into only 1.4GB. It seems to be functioning normally except that it only has the first set of 79 stages but it works at least with an updated roster and the entire first set of stages. I messed around trying to get the second set of stages to load but keep getting hit with invalid read errors. I suppose I just don't have the right codes for that but at least I can still use this without the dual stage roster. I guess for now Dolphin just can't deal with the Dual stage roster code.

No, it'll be the a Kirby.pac and a Megaman,pac you just need to insert them and I'll include directions.

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2GB incoming!

Downloading now =D

So we understand the issue with Fighter Kirby now and we're addressing it. Stand by.

Alright, I'm going to try to updated official 3.5 2gb version and see if I can get it to work in Dolphin.

What did notepad say when it crashes? I accidentally deleted that and cannot find it ion the new 3.5

Hmmm... what do you mean? Do you mean what crashes the game?

Sometimes the Wii crashes at the " ESRB " or when I choose All Star and 2nd player pushes start, randomly during fights, etc. I thought there was a notepad saying what to do when it crashes.

Reason for "ESRB": It is normal to crash there. Specially if you're not using xNextFramex.
How to get rid of that: Using the Project M Launcher.

Reason for 2nd Player freezing: It is a bug involving the CSSRoster.dat file.
Phantom Wings hasn't fixed that yet.

Woks great but crashes at some points.
Casting OmegaBlaster as YoshiBroly crashed the game once.
Choosing Roll and Paper Mario as 2vs2 crashes game.before game starts

metal mario 64 keeps flashing with the metal box sound

is it normal?

Small glitches like this are present because of clone engine things. I tested this out all though and it worked fine. Thanks for informing though im pretty sure things will be done on the next update in order to make fixes.



This at the time is very normal. He is like a boss character. eventually this with probably be updated though. As it was not priority because it doesn't effect game play.

I have a question, if I wanna edit the characters, do I have to edit in both RSBE and RSB4 folders or just in RSBE?

Indeed you do :)

also something else I noticed is that I tried to use the extra stage list pressing minus and A with the wiimote and it loaded, but when I selected a stage it loaded the stage from RSBE and not from RSB4, what did I do wron?

Glitch.

It happened to me once too.
But don't worry, keep trying. It doesn't happen all the time.

My experience is this updated pack is pretty glitchy in Dolphin. the 4gb file refuses to load at all and the 2gb file has character select menu errors. It's strange because 3.1 ran pretty much perfectly so for now I'm using the 4 gb file but had to rip out all the RSB4 information so that it worked with the 3.1 codes. With the 4 gb first set of stages and all the fighter information it all works pretty well with the 3.1 codes just get random crashes that always say disk read error but I can usually go 5-10 matches before this happens. Geno seems to work fine, Fighter Kiby is seemingly working without crashing the game. All other characters seem to work correctly as far as I can test. Raptor's forward tilt animation sometimes glitches out on me but every other fighter I've tested seems to work fine so it's a very minor glitch all things considered. Also I haven't found any stages or such that refuse to load with using the first 4gb set of stages.

I think Dolphin is just an entirely different beast and some codes that the Wii accepts don't work at all on Dolphin. I think the reason Project M 3.5 works flawlessly is that it was tested on Dolphin 4.0.2. and they squashed all the bugs related to emulation before release.

Anyways I'll keep testing my cobbled together version but as always this is still the best BrawlEx pack I've found even if I can't use all of it's features correctly as of right now.

Gecko can only load up to 2gb SD cards, so using Gecko with a 4gb card won't work -- I'm in the same boat. I'll take a look at the 2gb version of the pack, there's a couple of things that may need to be done. There was a post a page or two back with someone who said that he figured out how to load more than 2gb in Dolphin, but the video he posted is in a different language and I couldn't translate it.

I have downloaded the 2 gb file now several times, thinking it got corrupted at some point. The last 3 characters in the character meny are just question marks and when hovering over them, it's an instant crash.

"Things that will be worked on in the future (that I'll reveal for now Wink ):

    New Pokeball Pokemon (And SFX hunting for them)
    Kratos (Hopefully)
    Pocket-like-move for Villager "

Which Kratos? Tales of Symphonia Kratos or pale bald dood with anger issues from God of War?

The son of Zeus and the God of War.

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What are you playing it on?


And has anyone gotten the 2GB version to qork on the Wii? I need to know I didn'y mess it up somehow ir that the DL isn't corrupted.

I can create more then 2gb virtual cards using a program called mksdcard and loading them in Dolphin does work, the problem I think is that Dolphin thinks it's just a regular SD card and the codes change the format to SDHC cards so it screws it up in the emulator somehow. I think what I need is just the codes files without the SDHC extension codes, but yeah I have created custom builds up to 4gb and they worked ok but I was using the project M codes in their default homebrew state.

I am playing it on my computer, using dolphin. I stopped using my wii when I learned how to use dolphin.

Hi!!!

I`ve downloaded both versions but the 2gb version don`t load the most new characters geno and other 2, it`s shown "random" instead and i patched the build with the code gct in the folder and also  replace the kirby folder, but the same, with the 4 gb i can`t  boot ( because im loading brawl iso via usb and the cfgusbloader and a normal sd of 2gb i tried with a 8gb sdhc card but doesnt boot with the bulid at all, i think the compatibility with sdhc is using only an original disc of brawl, well my solution was:

I use the 4 gb pack but in the folder : privatewiiappRSB4pf  i deleted the folder fighter, stage and sound.after i copyed normally to my sd of 2gb The result you can now use geno sasuke and other but you cant use the second set of stages the menu works but if you load it freezes (because you erase the character files sound and stages for fit on the sd of 2gb) I dont have another but 2gb normal the sdhc don`t work on me IM on a Real wii with homebrew but my dvd of brawl was broke ( now i load via Iso) well ill hope that help some onein my same situation, Because BRAWL FOR ALL is the best build wow i love the new megaman moveset

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Now i have a question some one tried on a normal sd (not sdhc or sdxc) i can boot with a card of 4 or 8gb ?(i tried with a 8gb sdhc and detect the codes gct but doesn`t load it and boot the normal but more slowwww smash brawl without mod and yes i activate nexframe hook and is formatted fat32  but i think is about the sdhc card in the forum i see a patch for the codes and boot using gecko or mlauncher but this method only works on a real dvd, its sad.... My question is if i buy a normal (oldest) sd of 4 or 8 gb i can use the 4gb version because i ear the m project only uses a sd of 2gb as max...? please help and sorry but i speak spanish and english is a little difficult to me because i havent practice, ill hope explain well thanks

I don't really want to ask a whole lot of questions about characters but I've pretty much given up on this one,  Does anyone know what Vegeta's down taunt actually does?  It makes him flash (red I think but I'm color blind xD) and the more you use it the faster it flashes, and it fades away if you use a side smash while on the ground but I don't see anything else about it unless it's just for looks lol

On another topic I'm really liking this build,  besides trying to load classic or tourney I've only froze once in the first 3 hours I've used this version,  and as a plus seeing "La La LaLaLa"  as a stage made me smile,  that stage is my new favorite xD

how do i get the 4gb version to work with dolphin? can anyone explain to me in a step by step basis, telling me what i need to download and how i need to set it up to work with a 4gb virtual sdcard please? thank you this is just my first 4gb hack pack ive ever used so im a complete noob

The 4gb version fails to load in Dolphin and the 2gb version doesn't load correctly either. The best we can do right now is replace the PF folder from 3.1 with the PF RSBE folder from 3.5. It works but you can only do the first set of stages of course you need to know how to load it first, look at this tutorial: http://afriendlyfox.com/2013/07/22/project-m-super-smash-bros-brawl-mod-on-the-dolphin-wii-emulator/ (http://afriendlyfox.com/2013/07/22/project-m-super-smash-bros-brawl-mod-on-the-dolphin-wii-emulator/)

Okay so, this release was a little sloppy...

I don't use Dolphin personally so I didn't know it wouldn't run, nor did I know how many users use it.

I also made the 2GB version by removing certain codes, adding the new characters, and a few other things, but I don't use the 2GB version anymore so it wasn't dully tested. In my mind there shouldn't have been anything wrong with it though.

Fighter Kirby was patched. He didn't want to work with Snake, Falco, Jiggly, Donkey and Olimar due to a hat issue.


So with the patch I can confirm that the 4GB version works on the Wii with Homebrew and the PM loader included, EXCEPT, Turbo mode is more prone to freezing.

So since the 4GB version will become the primary and will be tidied up, I need to know what glitch reports belong to what build and what you're using to run the mod.

That way I know what glitches exist with certain builds and on certain platforms.

Thank you for understanding. Turbo mode is being looked at now.

So when I want to switch to the new set of stages it works but only if i press x+y on my very first match. Then it won't let me switch to the new set unless I reset the game. Also once I switch to the new set of stages, it's stuck like that for the rest of the game session unless I reset it. Pressing X+Y doesn't take me back to the original stages

What are you using to play?

I'm using gamecube controllers and I'm launching with project m launcher

Um, sorry, but mediafire won't let me download the folder for 2gb. I'm new to all this, as in today new. Help?

I need help! So sometimes it freezes either when picking Brawl on the Menu or just hovering around on the CSS. And then when it doesn't freeze during those two things, it freezes after I finish a match and it doesn't even take me back to the CSS. Iv'e already replaced the RSBE01.gct and the Kirby folder...so i don't get why its freezing?!
Also how come some characters like Lyn are in the fighter folder but not even on the CSS?

The files might be corrupted. Try to download them again (yeah, an INSANE waste of time but it might help).

And Lyn was left from early versions of the pack.
She's not in the pack, but her files are still there because of that.

@Nebulon, you might need to remove the unused files to decrease filesize.

Can someone help me get rid of all these annoying alt skins, i only want skins that relate to that character eg. mario skin = 8-bit Mario not [censored] Dragonite having a Lugia skin its so annoying to play on random character with this bs

Getting crashes both at the health and safety screen, as well as trying to go into group battle. Also in character select screen.

Just replace the fighter files you don't want with ones that you do want, Basically just like how you'd normally replace your fighter files.

Can i just delete them and have none?

... at what point do you press X+Y? I play on the Wii with PM loader as well, so really I'm knid of not sure what you could be doing wrong.


What message are you getting?


Lyn is actually Kakashi. Believe me, I'm making the size as small as I can since I'm looking at further ways to add even more content. ;)


I am going to fix the Lugia model since it has issues, but all in all you're welcome to take out the alt skins you don't like. Just know that if you're going to continue using my build that it might be worth waiting until a final release so that you don't have to keep removing them. Otherwise, all I can tell you is that you'll have to remove them yourself.



Freezes on Health and Safety screens are general Brawl Expansion glitches, you'll find them in all builds, though the frequency is random.

As for freezes at the CSS... as a player of the 4GB build I can't say I'm having the same issues...

What are you playing it on and what version is it?

Temporary fix for 2GB roster until an official fix itakai.net/CSSRoster.dat (http://itakai.net/CSSRoster.dat).

Place the file in private>wii>app>RSBE>pf>BrawlEx

This will remove the duplicate Kakashi (which crashes the game on scroll over), and removes all the random icons.

This fix makes Tidus, Raptor, and Geno not available, as well as removes random character.

OKAY I have an announcement. With some extensive testing last night, we found that the 4GB version did in fact have freezes during battles. Specifically during collision clashes among other random happenings.

We believe that this is due to the All-Star versus code, as the game was tested extensively for the dual map coding, but not as much for the All-Star versus coding as we sort of added that in before release.

Because of this, we are attempting two things:

Put the coding in the GCT in a way where it's stable. It may be too close to a confliction of some kind.

Or

Remove All-Star versus coding altogether.

We are sorry that this big release has had so many issues, and that users have had so many problems. We are looking to patch everything up by the weekend. So if we can't make what we have stable by the weekend, we'll have to remove something, and I'm thinking All-Star versus will be the one to go. But more observing and testing must be done.

Thank you for your patience, and thank you for telling us about your freezes. At first we weren't sure, but now we know there's something wrong. We'll fix it soon.

Okay, I'm having a seemingly random issue. I'm currently trying to play this game without a disk, I have the iso backed up on a usb and it works. I can get this to boot through configurable usb loader by activating ocarina and setting the hook to vbi. However, I constantly freeze when either I hit the group brawl button, or when selecting a character and the cursor hits one of the selections. Is there anyway to get this working well? Because I would love to play this because it looks amazing

We released prematurely it seems. We'll have a working 4GB version soon and a Dolphin compatible 2 GB version as well :)

Darn, is there anyway I could download an older version? Because I really want to play this as soon as possible?

4GB for my sdhc not work help

2GB version is on the way.


Update coming out late today :) Don't worry.

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Okay, the 2GB version is now available, and I didn't have time to do a full upload of the 4GB version today, so I added a more stable RSBE01 file in the DL link for the 4GB version. Put that in the codes folder right inside the rar, or your SD card, replace the previous and you're good :)

I would have just uploaded my build again, but it was giving me issues earlier so in the interest of time I just did the codes but will do a full update at a later point.

Sorry for the delay everyone!

Would i be able to play this on my wii using an 4gb sdhc card?

Correct :) Download the 4GB version, and put in the Kirby patch and the RSBE01 that are separate from the .rar in their appropriate places. Those are fixes for the current build that weren't implemented before release.

Thanks for the quick response! You really know how to please the crowd!

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I think your download is corrupt, it keeps crashing my browser around 500 to 800 MB on both chrome and Firefox

It's not corrupted. I just downloaded it completely on Chrome.


I'm having trouble accessing the extra stages though. All I can see are the first 2 pages and when I press X or Y on the gamecube controller it doesn't show the additional pages of slides. I'm using a wii + 8gb sdhc card + PM loader.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I want to say well using the 2gb version I was hovering on a character and I changed customs to somoene named Ellinwood and it crashed with the famous screen lock. Sound kept looping the last ten seconds before I scrolled over that character.

I just tried Eliwood out and he worked fine, did you download the newest version of the 2gb?

The 2gb does not have the extra page of stages, that's only the 4gb -- the second page of stages is too large to fit in 2gb.

*sub!*
lots of interesting info going on here, I need to follow

Finally i can see the 4gb complete, all the stages looks amazing, village, draculas trhone, and virtual code based on megaman x5 wow you`re the greatest .i have a question can add more stages, items or characters in future releases?
I really want a character of the castlevania series, wow you must be a grat videogame fan because "Geno, ballon fight  or tecnodrme o the ninja gaiden music  for nes in the bridge stage arent no common or i must say "new" everything  i love of videogames is in your build ( from decades i must said)

If you're asking if we plan on adding more items, stages and characters, then yes we are :) right now we want to add more characters but we're fixing up old ones first. And out coding guy is looking into more stage possibilities. :) so there's definately more coming, and we have plans, we just don't know if more stages are possible yet.


Yes I am a very long time videogame player. :) I've beaten about 470 videogames in total (some of them multple times and most if them with 100% completion when possible) and I've been playing since Atari. I know quite a bit about the characters and music and I definitely actively try to find music and levels that reflect as many series as I can.

In fact in the future, some stages will have multiple tracks which will contain more references.

Thank you for downloading :) I hope you enjoy what we have in store for our next release.

how do you access the fourth page of stages?

Press X+Y before the SSS on the 1st player Game Cube controller.

May I use your Brawl 4 All pack to make my own character packs? Also, to do so, how would I remove the extra stages and stuff, and only have the extra characters with the icons associated with them?

Because I've been having trouble with BrawlEx, so I was hoping to use your character template! ;D

P.S. If you let me do this, I'll for sure collab you, and all the rest of the team!  :happy:

this is what I was actually waiting for, it kinda dissapointed me to dont be able to use this in dolphin before

I thought you were a Wii user. o.O

I finally got the download to work, and replaced the right codes, but i was just curious if i do a random stage will it choose one from both, or just the selection i am on (first group or second group). Also, is the stage editor available in this build?

well, I use dolphin to test hacks because im too lazy to setup my sd card many times

I put it up for download for people to use as they please.

Do as you will :)


The stage editor is not available. And random will only pick from the 78 on the SSS, it won't pick from the other set of 78 unfortunately. That's just the nature of the code we're using for the two sets of stages. So not only is it not possible, but there isn't a fix for it either.

:) Thank you! :D

I love your work, but sadly I have a launch day Wii and the laser is no longer able to read dual layer DVDs, of which SSBB of course is. It still reads regular disc just fine. It is apparently a common issue with older Wiis.

 That is why I use USBLoaderGX to play SSBB. I own a legit physical copy of SSBB but my Wii can no longer play it, so I use a HDD to run a backup. Unfortunately your mod doesn't always play nicely with the backup. Is there any way to get either a more stable version that will run with an iso, or does anyone know how to create an iso of SSBB with Brawl4All already included? I know that I was able to create a Mario Kart CTGP Revolutution iso. Wiimm offered the tool and instructions, but did not explain how or where to get the original Mario Kart Wii ISO. Is there any way that you could release a similar tool?

Yay finally!
have been waiting for the dolphin fix.

One question though, why does spiderman have a spinning break dance kick in place of his iconic Spider sense move? (down b)

that doesn't seem to be working for me

Hi!, I'm really new to brawl modding, but I do have Project M. Is running BrawlEx the same as running Project M the hackless way? I might have tried Pikezer's version that way, but my game kept freezing mid match or during the CSS sometimes; either that or I might have tried Pikezer's through GeckoOS with the stage stack... I'm not really sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.

Okay, this is weird, the mod was working just fine, and now all of a sudden it won't work properly going into multiplayer brawl when using the first player gamecube controller, and it won't let me access the third or fourth page of stages

Would it be possible to split the alternate skins that have their own movesets into their own slots? And also is it possible upping the image resolution a little higher? And ALSO (lol) could you make the character selection screen kinda like the one in your update 3.5 preview?

Is it still a and - to switch screens if i am using a wiimote and nunchuk?

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Freeze update: red tidus vs. Unmasked fighter kirby on rainbow cruise does the silent freeze, twice in a row. I dont know where else i would put a freeze so here you go

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Its tidus, he does not work

How come Sephiroth no longer flies when using Up + B with his wing out?

I'm running into difficulties; I'm trying to run my own Project M/Brawl 4 All custom pack using Project M D.I.Y. and it keeps freezing with a buzz sound when I try to go to the CSS. Would you please take a look at my setup for me, and figure out what I did wrong? I really need help with this! :(

My SD Card Setup: http://www.mediafire.com/download/p7ttejch46sxi8d/SD_Card.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/download/p7ttejch46sxi8d/SD_Card.zip)

i there a Micaiah texture from fire emblem for Zelda in there

Another freeze. Kirby vs lucas on pokemon stadium as kirby used his final smash

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Is there another place to post freezes?

Nevermind; I'm just going to switch to multiple SD cards.

I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong or how to fix it.

I downloaded the 4gb patch and put everything properly where it should go for CFG USB use. However, when I try to load group (red main menu option) and then smash, it completely freezes.

its been a really long since i downloaded an update of this project, i think i'll need a 8 gb card for this. i'm really happy to see how you improve this more and more, overall with the clone stages and i wonder (because i'm at the university i wont be able to play wiiU till weekends) The stage roaster does has the classic stages from the classic expancion? and.. i remember you had blaze in the roster, she was very glitchy and you had to erase her? or there was another reason?
anyways i'm downloading this and buying a bigger sd card

I'm sorry to be that guy but I'm trying to install this using an iso through Dolphin emulator. Could anyone help me or point me in the right direction of how to install this please!  :kdance:

I created a virtual 2GB sd.raw and injected the nebulon's 2GB/dophin version files into the raw file. I booted up Dolphin and launched Gecko and the default SSBB game launched. I installed Project M just fine so I'm not sure what could be the problem.

P.S. I just started modding SSBB so I'm pretty new at this but I have experience installing mods for plenty of other games. This is new territory for me.

She was one of my favorites as well.. :) Characters are almost never completely taken out. Usually they are taken out for upgrade purposes. Keep tuning in and you might see her come back. Also for glitches we are making fixes. We aren't able to get back to everyone though but will asap.

Ok, I just have a few questions concerning this awesome mod

1.) When I select a character on the css, the name that the voice says is different from the one I selected. Such as if I select Paper Mario it will say "Knuckles!" I was wondering if Idownloaded it incorrectly or if it does this for everyone??

2.) When i went to fix the patch for fighter kirby, I saw character slots such as Mickey and Lyndis, who are not in the game. Is this because they will be worked on in the future or did I do something wrong??

Also, the game crashes when playing with Dark Samus, Tidus, and Zero in the same game
Thanks for your time

and i forgot to make some questions, before i download dthis, is this compatible with  SDHC cards? because i cant  find a 8 gb sd so i have to use a micro SD, and i remember that i had problems with big sd before, but that was long time ago and i wonder if that is fixed now
and, i know you are waiting for a official rosalina release, but since i'm fine with the rosalina PSA over peach, i wonder if the game wont crash if i replace the PSA of peach with rosalina.
and i think i missed out some updates, so now you have combo characters? you have to press some buttons to change the character like, from kirby to fighter kirby? and stages? and that works with wiimote plus and nunchuk?
i think thats all, since i have a big load of homework, i couldnt download the game this time but i will the next weekend

We'll look into the announcer calls. Mickey and Lyndis are no longer in the pack, we still need to rename the files (in the dolphin version they are renamed though). And thank you for the freeze report, Dark Samus has issues with many characters, we're working on fixing her up, for now I recommend her being avoided as much as possible.

You can put a PSA over Peach if you wanted, nothing should mess up if you do. :)
For fusion characters, just change the costumes on the icons with pink backgrounds (rather than the usual blue), and you will see the new character in there, the name will change to the new character as well.
Stages work by pressing X+Y on the gamecube controller before entering the SSS to change stage folders, on the wiimote...I think it's A + (-) but I'm not positive, it says somewhere in the first post I believe.

Hello,

Need a bit of help trying to get this mod to work.  I downloaded the newest version of the 2 GB file and extracted it to my card.  Everything seems to load fine, Gecko loads, the game loads.  It gets past the wrist strap warning screen, onto the "Challenger Approaching" screen and then the text stops scrolling and it just freezes.  I've rebooted and tried again a few times and it always freezes here.

There is nothing on the SD card aside from this mod.

Is there a known fix to this?  I tried searching through the topic and couldn't find someone with a similar error.   Would it have to do with the save game data by any chance?  I have the save data from the original Brawl on my Wii still.

It can't have anything to do with the save data, because when I tried with my save data still there, it froze on loading the CSS instead.(But that's apparently mainly because I was trying to modify the pack.)

Is there any way to create a virtual SD card file for Dolphin that is larger than 2gb?

I'm still having this problem... could anyone please help me with this?

I've noticed a lot of people having trouble loading the pack. Everyone should follow these steps:
1. Download the pack itself (whether it be the 4GB version or the 2GB version (Dolphin version).

2. Put the pack on to your SD card, and make sure you have the root look like this picture:

3.

• For the 4GB pack, load it by going to custom stages (like how you would load Project M).
  So load the game normally (instead of going right to gecko), and go to Vault > Stage Builder.
• For the 2GB pack, load from Gecko normally with a modded wii. This pack will work on Dolphin. As far as I know, there is no way to get the 4GB pack to work on Dolphin. Both packs have the same characters, just stages are different (since the 4GB gives room for the multiple pages of stages).

4. For the 4GB pack, for the "Kirby Patch", you don't need to download it anymore if I recall correctly because the regular 4GB pack download has been fixed to have those files added, the patch was only for people who downloaded the pack Day 1, since we didn't want them to have to redownload the pack again. So just ignore the Kirby patch. If you need the Kirby patch, simply extract the files, and put all of the Kirby files into the pack's Kirby files.

I haven't had any issues since the update, no freezes or trouble, with the exception of Dark Samus being weird with certain characters (but he's being fixed! I suggest avoiding her for now!), and then there's one or two alts (One of the Roll one's and one of the Link one's, this will be fixed soon as well). Otherwise, I haven't had any issues. If you tried to modify the pack in any way (such as deleting any files), I can't help you. If you tried to replace characters with different PSAs, that should work as normal (except you will have gfx conflictions most likely, and sound effects will not exist for that character). Remember, some of the clones in the pack use different modules than what appears on the vault due to Nebulon's and my edits, meaning you might be replacing characters incorrectly. Lastly, adding recolors to characters (like adding on, not replacing) will require you to go into the BrawlEx files and adding in another costume manually.

So I've been gone for a while. Itman has been filling in for information giving I see, thank you very much :) As always he's fantastic to work with.

So I've been testing some new things and sort of adapting to a more busy life. I feel like a lot of members of the site hit this wall where they started modding and submitting those mods in their teens or early 20s, or at least in times in which they didn't have a lot of responsibility. I'm no different. Lately I've been more busy with more work hours, which means I need to junction my social life a little different and that leaves me less time for Smash Bros. modding. However, I don't want the pack to cease production. I want it to get to it's absolute maximum. Which is why I'm so thankful to have the help I do. :)

If I post less, that's why.

That being said, we still have a lot of planned things for the pack.

Last release you got 156 levels.... not too shabby...

But...

Say we found a way to put in MORE levels... what sort of levels would you want?

;)

Things to consider, since there is a standard that must be met:

-Stages cannot simply be re-textures, unless the texture changes the identity of a stage to another stage. (An example would be Mercury Lighthouse from Goldensun. It's a re-texture and a different background, but because it's an existing place in the games, it technically could qualify)

-No character should have more than 6-7 stages representing their series per page. This is to give other characters a fair chance to have level representation, as well as to not bore users. I wouldn't want a HYPOTHETICAL page 3 to be dubbed the "Sonic page". Also, keeping it to that standard forces myself to find more stages.

-Stages that represent locations for included fighters are the most appreciated. Every fighter should have a "home field". That being said, quality is still essential. So if Viewtiful Joe only has a 2-D background stage, then Viewtiful Joe simply won't have a stage. The need for a home field doesn't out-weigh the expected quality.

-2-D stages should be avoided if the 2-D doesn't somehow play into the style. An of a good 2-D stage would be, Flat-Zone, or Smash-Land stages. A simple texture with collisions is entertaining, but is not what we're looking for. This rule can be overlooked if the texture is animated to some extent to give the illusion of a more lively battle arena.

-Stages from previous Smash Bros games are a MUST. I currently have all of the stages, as well as a few more little reference stages downloaded (Trophy Tussle 1-3 is an example) so anything that means Smash Bros. can be included indefinitely.

-Stages should not have glitches. This goes without saying, but it's essential. If you know a stage has a glitch related to the stage, then it needs to be discarded from thought.

-Lastly, stages need to cause little to no lag. Lag is understandable when certain things are met, but the stage should not lag with 4 Marios in play.

As a special aside, if you happen to have a stage that is unreleased or exclusive to your persona build, and you want to share, feel free to send it to me. One thing I've learned going through the entire list of stages on the vault twice is that the amount of unique stages that are of high quality is surprisingly low, where as the majority of stage mods are re textures.

I could simply complete the HYPOTHETICAL page myself, but I wanted to give the community a chance to pick some stages, as with the new lack of images for most stage previews I could have potentially skipped over rather interesting stages.

On a final note, if we reach a stage limit, and more stages from SSB4 or 3DS come to life, those will have priority. Meaning that if a limit is reached before all of those stages are recreated to an extent, some of the stages we have selected and will select will be replaced. They have the "right of way" so to speak.

I'm going back into my shell, but I'll be sure to check any stages you include here :)

maybe you should make a roster about the stages that are already in, because maybe the pictures are outdated, and the quality is not clear enought to see them and understand
i would like to do that by myself but still i havent got time to go back to my house and play some wii
in the mean time, here are some levels
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208029 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208029)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208007 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=208007)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207989 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207989)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207833 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207833)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207659 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207659)

wat about some weeb stages?
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207421 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207421)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207599 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207599)
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207122 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=207122)

ok so i managed to get the game in my hands, i'm really happy to see the audio files for the characters, but i got some glitches
Roll's marvel vs capcom style clothe freezes the game
selecting all 4 alternate links freezes the game aswell = Dark link, skyward link, young link and toon link
pilly has an infinite final smash glitch
and this is just some point, take no offence
but i see no difference at all from ganondorf to oot ganondorf, maybe a different moveset like ganondorf with a sword would be better?
same goes between young, toon and normal link maybe the three of them should use a slot
gyarados is just like mario moveset with different elements, like tornados instead of fire balls

Thank you for posting!
-Can you tell me about Doc's infinite final smash? How did you get it to be infinite? This way I can fix it.
-Ganon and OotGanon have different movesets for the most part, and Oot has different attributes. Demise is a sword Ganon moveset, which can be played by changing Ganon's costume to a Demise costume -- you might like his moveset better.
-I wish we could combine Link, Young Link, and Toon Link into one slot, but it doesn't work like that. Well also, Toon Link and Link are original brawl characters, and a goal of Brawl4All is to not touch any original brawl characters. And Young Link is an old melee character, and another goal was to have the five removed ones (Doc, Roy, Mewtwo, Young Link, and Pichu) be playable exactly as they were. Link is currently being fused with Dark Link, and we have fusion plans for the other two.
-Gyarados is nearly done being revamped, in the next release his moveset will be changed up.

Docs? Im 69% sure i said pilly the piranha plant
It was a com. It used the final smash but after using it. It remained with the final smash effect.
And you added pilly. But there arent plans for daisy?
And toon link can share the slot with Young link. Being both links from alternate places.
And flygon will be revamped as well? Its moveset is kinda unstable
And for roll please fix her.

-OHHH lol, I thought you said "Pilly" to refer to Doc, you mean Petey Piranha. And I've never had that happen to me before, I just tested it now and it worked as expected.

To those who are having some issues loading,  are you guys using micro SD cards (in adapter of course) just curious,  when u first started using this pack almost all the additional stages froze and a few characters froze,  however I bought a new 2gb SD card and used the same files and the game functioned much better (with the 4gb release I've since upgraded to a 4gb SDHC) I'm just saying maybe the wii don't load this correctly from micro SD cards,  though somebody with better experience is more than welcome to tell me I'm wrong lol I barely know what I'm talking about here (I have no clue what dolphins restrictions are so I only suggest this could be a cause of issues on a wii)

Additionally I noticed a page back somebody said something about announcer calls,  up until now I thought they had just been removed as I never hear them,  is there maybe something wrong with my set up?
(4gb version) I really ain't worried about it just now starting to think something is wrong lol

If I already have this, is it possible to still make clone characters?? If it is, will watching the video tutorials still work for me??

Yes, at the moment it is still possible since we haven't used all of the slots yet. You'll have to look in the files and see what slots are left over (I honestly have no idea). Also, the new character you add in won't have any sounds, csps, etc...unless you add them yourself. Lastly, gfx will probably conflict with something else unless you port the character correctly. But yes, inserting a clone character is the same process.

Ah okay. I'm thinking that its probably not worth it in the long run since it will probably cause conflicts with later updates and patches

I know you said that all star vs would not work with this update, bit what was it in the first place? Was it really an all star mode against all the characters?

Here is a video of All Star Versus Mode in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOxvk8lv4wE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOxvk8lv4wE)

Hey I have a question about Sasuke. Is his 1up jump meant to be that short or is it just unfinished??
Because to me it seems too small to be really that effective. Overall, I think Sasuke is a great character and fun to be, but once he gets hit off the map its tough to get back on because of his small jump

Sasuke is a character full of many many moves as far as combat goes. He probably is one of my favorite. I don't think he is completely done away from edits but i actually agree with the recovery thing.

Hey im new to the forums but not new to modding brawl. is there a way to make this expansion pack into an iso? i have a brawl iso that isnt touched and i have to iso builder.. i tried doing this once and it didnt work. so now i need like instructions-instructions on how to use this mod. Ps: Disk Drive is broken so i cant use actual game cd.

You can put individual character skins in the iso, as you would ordinarily; I'm not sure it would work for the actual expansion of slots itself, though, as BrawlEx uses files from outside the actual iso.

So... I take it it can't be possible?

Like I said, probably not(If you're referring to expanding how many slots there are) By the way, if you're trying to pack this into an iso just to play it on Dolphin, you can use a virtual SD card.

Yeah but this isn't my laptop XD so I kinda can't play games on it. Only get stuff I need.

Hey Nebulon, have you ever done a succesful Bowser clone?

It seems way difficult to me to make it work.

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About the old Vegeta PSA:

Yes it does freeze, but only when you add the included .sawnd file.
Said .sawnd file deletes Snake's and will make him freeze the game (re-inserting Snake's sawnd file does nothing but remove Sonic's).
Also, will make Vegeta freeze when grabbing.

As far as I know, that's the only problem.
So you can add the PSA but not the .sawnd file.
We need to create a new one or leave it with the default Wolf sounds.

This is awesome! I may try it sometime.

So I haven't been on this thread for a while.

I'm still avoiding full contact with the thread until I've got some goodies to show you. We've got some things put in, but I'm debating on how to do the 3rd map screen.

I don't know if I should wait for more Smash 4 stages to become available, or make the 3rd screen of maps but then change things over time to fit more Smash 4 stages...

I don't want to introduce maps and then remove them is the thing... so I've been waiting. But if people don't care that some of the maps will be replaced over time for Smash 4 maps then I'm fine with starting production on the screen now. O've got plenty of cosmetics and music done for the 3rd page of stages.

And say we got a 4th and final map screen... I'd find maps for those too. That's actually hypothetical... which means I'm confirming 3 map screens.

:)

An awesome job from Brawlboy and his magician partners for making 3 folders of stages possible.

As for fighters, there'll be more. We have a few in that we haven't talked about, 2 to be exact.

And more will be coming.

I'm being vague because there's some things that need to be ironed out. It's a slow drag trying to decide what should go where and when and then doing it.

1 thing we did was gave Mario 12 costumes.

So that means 4 Brawl Marios
4 Mario 64s
and 4 Metal Marios.

So for everyone who wanted a 4 player free for all Turbo Metal Mario battle.... well here you go :)

4 Giga Bowsers too.

And all other characters will have 4 instead of 3 playable costumes if they're a combination character.

Sorry about the lack of things to show... But the plan is to continue. We're still here.

Hi. Great job on this project Nebulon. You mentioned we should get a 4 gb sd card? How do you use it if the wii doesnt detect it? Anyone know? Thanks

I've always loved Brawl Mods once I knew how to make them work. I even downloaded an American ISO of Brawl to get more content, since I'm Spanish and the PAL version is limted.
But this mod is a new level of awesomeness. So many new cool characters, so many stages, great added music, and I could still add whatever mod I liked into the game. I'm going to be playing this for a long time.
There are 2 problems that keep happening in the game for some reason:
-The stage list doesn't work properly. Sometimes I can only access the first two pages (the SSB Series stages), while other times I can only access the next two (the misc stages). Is there any way to fix this?
-The music. Sometimes the songs glitch up and change into corrupted versions of other songs from the pack. I discovered that they're the songs from the stage that shares the same place as the one from the other couple of pages. For example, WarioWare and FalconWare, or Peach Castle 64 and Mushroom House.
Besides that, it's amazing. Thanks a lot Nebulon. Also, how do you add Combo Characters? I'll really like to know.

This isn't Project M compatible, right? :/

I have run into another freeze. Whenever fighter kirby uses his final smash on gyrados, on any map, the game freezes. I tested this in training though and it does not freeze there though, but on normal brawl mode it does freeze. I tested this with myself and a computer, me and another player, and with two computers, it freezes in all cases

I can not get this mod pack to work with cfg usb loader. Not on 2gb, and not on 4gb. I can't play this at all.

@ Devann, I'm having the same problem too! Like every time when I load up Gecko the game will try to load up brawl but it keeps saying Error: No DVD Found. Even on my other SD Card that doesn't have Nebulon's hack wouldn't load up. So I'm guessing that it over works the CD when it loads up, although, when I play brawl without the hacks it'll work just fine. I even tested it myself to figure out whats keeping brawl from loading up in Gecko, yet I couldn't figure out what it is. I believe its probably Gecko itself, I really can't tell, maybe it needs to be updated. Nebulon's Brawl 4 All will really put brawl to work due to all the mods it has on it, and I believe it's the modded Strap Menu (which sometimes show the modded version but the original version the most) and the Intro to Brawl (which makes the game pause a bit here and there and you'll have to keep pressing the A,B, and start buttons to skip it) and it really makes Brawl load up real slow making all those loading noise's in which I know a lot of Brawler's experience that downloaded this Nebulon's pack.

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Just go to Config Options and make sure that the Gecko Hook Type is set to AxNextFrame and brawl should load up perfectly.

Guys I've been having some problems recently with nebulons pack and really need some assistance with them.
1. Classic and other modes like settings often crash the game and or freeze my whole wii u forcing me to unplug it.
2. Often times in the stage select screen i find myself confused on how to get to the other stages and often when i attempt to go to find the other stages for to long a period of time the game will crash again forcing me to unplug and reboot.
as far as i know attempting these things crashes the game and I've uninstalled it and reinstalled the pack multiple times and have still encountered these issues. I would like to know why these are occurring or at least a way to fix it.
if anybody is online and has read this post please assist me.
Help from nebulon himself would be a lifesaver.
But all help is appreciated.
so please anyone help i love this pack and want it to work.

Hi!!

Well remember "history mode" does not work, also i think "all star mode" have some issues an turbo mode freezees (sometimes), Im using usb configurable loader just remember select the correct hook axnextframe , i also test the 4 gb with a dvd and it works fine with me, just a thing more " using sdhc cards you can`t boot using a backup, i read in another forum is a cios thing related " (im currently using the 2 gb version because i have only a 2 gb normal card and boot with hook but isn`t stable that way, because sometimes freezes before the intro video on diferent screens caution or in the logo of loading that is normal using backup on usb (with original game boot without problems, any )

Sorry if i can`t explain more i`m mexican and english isn`t my language PD i prefer not use google translator because  everything sounds weird with it...

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With the scenerios you tried return to the character select screen press - + A buttons and select the images of the scenario must be changed that way (if you prees in the scenario select the images don`t change but the scenario will be the other template sorry again and  i hope be of asisstance ( Im waiting for news of the new releases, because of my favorites stages are in the 4 gb version but i cant load that version without the original dvd and its dificult to found in mexico, all the stages are great the town of animal crossing, the bridge with retro music of ninja gaiden, the magnet train, the megaman x5 based, wow

Thanks Nebulon`s Team Ill be waiting News!!!

Thanks

so i went to download thi cause i recently obtained a second sd card[4gb cause i wanted to try out the 4gb version] and it seemed to downnload a little too quickly but i thought that was me, but when i went to extract it it said that the fitganonmotionetc file in the broly folder was corrupt and when i went into the rar itselfit didnt have anything past the fighter folder, and in said folder it had nothing past broly. plus i should mention the only set that was even in it was rsb4. Did my download become corrupt by any chance? I ask simply because I've been lucky enough to dodge currupted downloads[not so mmuch lucky with everything else though XD]

if you ever get a corrupted archive file error when extracting, you should always redownload. unless everyone is getting that error, its most likely a corrupted download

lol wow i already forgot i posted this comment[guess thats lifes side effects]

anyways i am currently in the processs of doing that. thanks. I never had a corrupted download so i was confused

uhh, i just tried to extract it and it said that it couldn't output the file, it even forced me to reboot my computer to use chkdsk just to make my disk read again. i would wait on downloading this

Oj...well...too late yhere

so um nebulon....i finally got everything for the 4gb downloaded, extracted, etc. etc. and when i loaded the pm loader, it just sent me back to the wii menu. Note by loaded the pm loader i mean the pm loader opened up completley fine and everything and when i hit play the screen goes black the obvious sounds of the game trying to load happens.... and im re-introduce the the wii menu

I miss Nebulon

He's around still. The project is not finish by far. The team has just been really busy. Recent things are trying to make things stable, stay tuned pretty sure nebulon has things to share when he comes back.

Aha, I'm still here :) We're all just busy I'm afraid :/ BUT if we can figure out a certain issue before May 16th, we'll release it the day (or after) the issue is figured out.

I've been playing a lot of games recently. Outside of Brawl I'm a pretty well rounded gamer. I just beat my 495th game. But back to Brawl, just know that the longer you wait, the more we can get in. We're all very passionate about our additions, and we also don't want to release the pack a day before something really cool comes out on the Vault and not include it.

There's a lot of factors... maybe I'll upload a video of it's current state or something. I know I haven't been around lately, and I'm sorry for that, but I promise you we're still working on it.

I'm still sort of avoiding this thread though. I don't feel like I'm allowed to be on my own thread unless I have something to say, ya know? Aha.

Well, hopefully we'll release soon. I think you're going to like the things we're focusing on this time around. Stay tuned.

when do i have to press X and Y? i press them both at he SSS but nothing happens. I tried pressing A with the wiimote but it didn't work either

I believe you need to hit X+Y (or w/e the wiiimote uses)  before the SSS (stage select screen),  try doing it from the CSS (Character Select Screen) and see it that helps

Hey guys,
I just found this thread today, and I already have homebrew on my wii and was wondering how to load this since I'm new. Sorry, I must have missed the instructions on the first post. I'm assuming I just copy the contents from the 4GB.rar onto my SD card and load that from the homebrew channel? Will this work with USB as well I assume?

Thanks

Please add Ichigo kurosaki from bleach into the pack

I have several requests and problems I came up with
Problems/Bugs:
1. Vegeta's recovery is a bit poor, I always fall off a cliff
2. When you touch the green water in the deadpool level, you get Ko'd, no time to recover
3. One of Roll's skins freezes the game (The Megaman 8 one w/o the blue suit)
4. I have no idea how to get the stamina higher, it only goes up to 300
5. The AI always starts at lvl 0 or 10, whenever I try to change the rules or mess up on the stage selection, it goes back to lvl 0 or 10
6. Game freezes when you enter My Music
Requests:
1. The Max levels should be gone, waste of space in my opinion
2. I found this ( http://smashboards.com/threads/brawlex-thread-brawl-with-80-characters.351153/ (http://smashboards.com/threads/brawlex-thread-brawl-with-80-characters.351153/) ) and it has characters such as Lloyd Irving, Piccolo, Gotenks, Tifa and Krillin
3. Replace Ridley with the project m one, this Ridley is too small, while the PM one is in a proper size and has a good moveset
4. Change Vegeta's forward special, nothing too special
5. ( http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=202715 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=202715) ) This has Tom Nook and Toon Zelda
6. The 4 Alloys so some could edit them or use them for test dummies
7. ( http://smashboards.com/threads/project-m-patt-edition-development-permanently-discontinued.335820/ (http://smashboards.com/threads/project-m-patt-edition-development-permanently-discontinued.335820/) ) This has so many skins that you could use
8. Mabye replace Hector with Chrom? He is a highly wanted character

I do hope you read this and keep up the fantastic work!

Okay, I'm back with good news. I had a conversation with Don Jon about the coding and we think we know what the problem is :)

SO, this means that the the stage issue that's been our big hurdle for this next release could be over soon!

In the mean time, I need people to send me PSAs that they think would be good for Brawl 4 All. for review. I see a couple of suggestions in the thread, but since the stage mods that we want have all been downloaded and are being prepared for the pack, I just need some suggestions for PSAs. Particularly, PSAs that don't need a lot of fixing.

So feel free to post some PSA links for review. Chances are, they won't all make it in due to space limitations, and we are saving some space for future PSAs, but I want to make it up to everyone for taking longer than normal for a release, so I'm going to really try and fit as much content in this next DL. So link me PSAs that you think everyone would really enjoy, and we'll see if we can't get this thing done soon :)

Thanks for waiting! In the mean time, just know that it's being worked on.

What about using SilentDoom's/Albafika's Cloud Strife?

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24056 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24056)

I know it is a little OP, but I recommend this to be used for Cloud, and the current Cloud PSA could be used for Zack Fair.

You're acting like it's hard to nerf characters.

That was my exact thought. That cloud psa is a good one maybe we can use it to put him and Zack on the same slot.

Unfortunately, given my understanding of combining them, they're both too big to fit together in one slot. My partner at the time, Itman, became very good at it, but I've been out of contact with him. So for the time being, they'll have to be in seperate slots.

But let's think about this as a group... Is Zack Fair worthy of having his slot? I know I have some questionable representation, but if we all feel Zack Fair would be a fine character, then we can make the old slot Zack. :)

But if there's another FF character who could be represented by that moveset with a model over Ike already rigged then we could try that too or use it as an alternate. I'm just throwing out ideas for peer review. There's a lot of FF 7 representation.

Let's think about it. Eitherway, I think it's a good idea :)

I did find a mod with some extra characters such as Chrom, Lighting and a lot of bleach and naruto characters
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=70882.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=70882.0)
However, Chrom is just an ike skin but has his own slot, mabye giving him Hector's moveset?

 Hi Nebulon, I'm new to brawl hacking and love this hack pack, but I just wanted to know if there was any possible way to make all of the stages on the 4gb version fit into 2gb. I love all of the stages you put into the 4gb version, and I want to try them all out on a 2gb SD card. And if there is no way, could you please tell me which 4gb SD card to get? All of the ones I see are SDHC's.

I have a slight issue. Before, I used to be able to go up to 990 stamina but when I just tried it, it could only go up to 300... Is there a reason for this or am I not doing something correctly

I pmed you :)


The coding conflicted somewhere so we've taken it out for now :/ it caused Turbo mode to freeze. However it's possible we may just need to reorganize and implement it later. I doubt it will make this release.

I have this exact same question

Edit: I got it to work.  The possible problem(s) was that I had ocarina off, I tried using the 2GB Brawl4All on the 4GB SD Card, I had project m already installed, or I just did something else wrong, I'm not sure.

When you load from Usb Use a usb loader, turn on ocarina, and make sure the files are in the right spot, I think that's where I messed up at.

sorry ive been inactive for so long (im sure no one has noticed tho) but a while back my friend asked if we could play this out of the blue, and I said ok. I'm a tad better so I can usually beat him.

But we were trying new characters and he tried Roll. HOLY COW! its not that she is overpowered its her freakin priority.

I tried with every character, even my main, and teams with cpus backing me up. he always easily won

issue: Roll literally has #1 priority for every move in her moveset

May I recommend a CDI link skin?

I'll check her out. I think her point was priority move but easy to KO. We'll test her.


Well, I kind of can't touch Link... you see, my partner Itman was almost done with a Link/Dark Link combination slot. However I haven't talked to him for a month... so I don't want to touch Link in case he comes back, because if he does I'll have to set that up and I'd rather not add that in before I know what's going on.



Has anyone ported T-Rex to Marth successfully? Or is it not possible right now? I might look into it...

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New poll question.

I really need participation. This will help me out greatly.

Honestly, I think the new pokemon are a waste of space. Gyarados was "alright" but it seems the other ones have no reason to be there at all. There is too many pokemon characters in this mod

Hi, Nebulon, i was wondering how you boot this up. it looks REAALY Good, and please, some body tell me. or, atleast send me that thing That your using in the pictures Nebs. Or, if you can tell me, ill be happy to do something for you.
So, im gonna just do.. THE KIRBY DANCE!  :kdance: :kdance: :kdance:

does anyone have any idea what goes on with the sound from time to time? its like static and other times the same stage will play fine

Some tracks have aome staric in them undortunately :/ maybe I'll go back and clean all of those noises one day, but I son't think they're too prevelant.



And pictures will be shown soon. Also Thank you for participatin the pokemon poll. I think I have an idea about hpw to handle them now but I need to be sure so keep the voting going :)

I dont even care about the pokemons, to be honest they are the first ones I replace whenever I DL a new update of B4A

Do you replace them with whom?
I had the curiosity :P

My game often freezes when I try to start it up...does this happen for everyone or just me? And does it have anything to do with microSD vs SD card?

Mini Update:

So the 3 roster code is now at a state where one of the folders will freeze once you try to get to the second page. So we're very close to cracking it. Which is good.

Stage wise, at this point in time there are 211 stages included, so I need 23 more. I've gotten quite a bit, and I know more cool stages are coming out, so if this is as many stages as we are able to pack, then after release some stages will occasionally be replaced from time to time. So I'm trying to find cool stages to fill it up for now, so that's almost complete.

I have a bigger team at home now to test some characters so there's more character edits.

I'm also going to add in the Chrom PSA that was just released, and so far I've added in a few updated or better PSAs over previous PSAs.

I have a question though: I've heard the T-Rex PSA can work over Marth, and I get pms of characters I need to check out and he's a fairly frequent one, so I wanted to know if anyone could confirm this for me off the top of their head. If not, I'll just test it after I'm done with the stages (finding, arranging, getting music, looping the music, and testing them is actuall a lot of work. I've been at this third page for a while now, but I'm almost done, and I think people are going to like some of the stages I dug up).

Other than that, not much of interest to talk about right now. Me and Brawlboy are trying our best, so stay tuned.

211 stages huh? how are we going to be able to get to them?
Btw I saw a couple of videos showing that Chrom's final smash, does not work. I wish you good luck

The Sephiroth of your pack has some glitches.
For example in Side-A, the model turns awful during that attack.
Another is the Octaslash attack, which has no sound.

Other than that, he's fine. But the Side-A issue needs a fix.

I was trying to add Luffy to this, but I am quite confused on how to add the extra character slot. Like I was watching the video tutorial on brawlex and it got to a point where it was required to add another slot...but I couldn't find the codes that corresponded to adding another slot. I explored around for a little bit but to no avail. If anyone knows how it would be much appreciated.

*subs*

ATTENTION

So, our main combination specialist is no longer aiding us.

Now, I'm not an expert in combination slots. My main problem is that I normally get stuck trying to make special attacks successfully work during combo slots.

To iterate, a combo slot is when you have a character (Like Link) who has a second character who shares the same PSA file, but plays differently. Some minor examples would be Mario and Mario 64, and more major examples would be Kirby/Fighter Kirby or Demise/Ganon.

Anyway, I'm only and exclusively looking for people who are familiar with this process to help me make more space on the CSS. If you know how to do this and would like to help, then please message me. I've got a few characters in mind.

I really can't teach the process to anyone, as I only know the bare minimum (which is why I can do simple things, like attacks, but can't do Final Smashes or Special attacks).

So if you're interested in helping me, please message me. I'm shaking up the roster a bit, so it would really inflate the next release if someone experienced knew how to do this.

:)

OR... and this is probably not possible, BUT if someone knows how to make a slot function like a Zelda slot, as in clicking the picture in order to change a moveset, and would like to teach me how to code that, then I'd have PLENTY of goodies for people...

At this point, I really don't need anything else.

What about the Sephiroth issue?

I'll come up with some thing :) I know he needs work. I've got some idea.

I'm currently really dise ting Bomberman and Gray Fox.




Also, new poll. Thanks for voting on the Pokemon one.

It really helped!

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Micro SDs cause freezes :/ ask me how I know :D

Sorry.

^This is true.
That's why I changed to an SDHC card.

So you're adding new stages. How do you plan to fit that in a SD card?

You're right.
My SD card is just 4GB. Adding more stages will make the pack go over it's limit.

Using PM loader allows up to 32GB. That's what I use, but you won't need a 32GB honestly.

At least an 8GB one though.

But mine is just 4GB.

Where I live, all cards are expensive.

Yeah I was having issues with a microSD so I switched to a SD card. Got a 16GB one, so I think I'll be good for a while haha

I have a 32 GB card, but I'm using it for my 3DS. Gotta switch some stuff around I guess XD
Will there be a version for smaller SD cards for people who cannot get bigger ones?

Link me and I'll check it out.

Here is one:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24425 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=24425)

If you ever wanted to add Luffy to the pack I think I found a pretty good one:

http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=203737 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=203737)

3 Questions:

• Is it possible to give Giga Bowser multiple costumes?, like Godzilla or Winged Dragon of Ra?
• Will a 16GB or 8 GB card work for the 4 GB download? I believe it's SDHC, but I don't know how to confirm; the 16 GB is a Micro.
• What is the easiest/quickest way to change CSP's on this build? I'm using the 2 GB version.

All I want is to replace Yoshi with the T-Rex..and a few other things.

The Giga Bowser killable moveset that's on the same slot as Bowser is actually just a Bowser skin that I made bigger.

So... you CAN add Godzilla and Winged Dragon of Raw, but you need to bone edit their names to go with the size mod in the fitmotion, and then you'd have to move the pictures to an unused ID in the CSS files that didn't overlap into another character's picture IDs since adding those two would give Bowser a total of 12 costumes, 6 for Bowser and 6 for Giga.

If you meant editing the final smash... well I haven't touched it so it's there for someone to edit it for their personal use.



Anything 4GB and up for the current build. 8GB for the next build.

SDHC works, but Micros don't. :/ Just a regular SDHC card with at least 8GB is what I recommend if you want the new build when it's released.




The CSS is tricky... the Brawl Expansion forum have guides for changing the CSS things for normal Brawl, which is what this pack is.

I'd look there to refer to it as the process is simple once you know it, but complicated to just type out because of all of the little locations all of the pics are located.



I was considering putting him in actually aha.

Also, the voting has really inspired me. 14 people wanting to download gave me the push I needed to give Cloud, Zack, Chrom, and Gohan their sfx :)

And I've been working on balancing and bug hunting like a maniac this weekend. Thakns everyone for the support!

Thanks for the fast response. I'd just like to say that you're truly amazing. To me, this build is much more awesome than P:M. It is the largest build in the world, right?

Which of these is the best place(s) to use for help with the csp's?
A) http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=67591.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=67591.0)
B) http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=65113.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=65113.0)
C) http://smashboards.com/threads/brawlex-thread-brawl-with-80-characters.351153/ (http://smashboards.com/threads/brawlex-thread-brawl-with-80-characters.351153/)
D) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGSgNMWrPo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGSgNMWrPo)

Here is a list of all the characters I added/plan on adding so far (maybe you can use some of these for your ideas):

There are more if you need for other characters, like Link. I haven't even begun to touch stages.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1s9viwhxvfyere5/Ichigo+Over+Fox.rar (http://www.mediafire.com/download/1s9viwhxvfyere5/Ichigo+Over+Fox.rar) here is an ichigo. Or this http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33310 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=33310)

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You should also make this the begining theme for the pack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0U6GZB67wQ&hd=1%3Ciframe%20width=%22560%22%20height=%22315%22%20src=%22//www.youtube.com/embed/w0U6GZB67wQ%22%20frameborder=%220%22%20allowfullscreen%3E%3C/iframe%3E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0U6GZB67wQ&hd=1%3Ciframe%20width=%22560%22%20height=%22315%22%20src=%22//www.youtube.com/embed/w0U6GZB67wQ%22%20frameborder=%220%22%20allowfullscreen%3E%3C/iframe%3E)

here is the download the that theme http://www.mediafire.com/download/9sgup6mcaaxqcss/OPMovie.thp (http://www.mediafire.com/download/9sgup6mcaaxqcss/OPMovie.thp)

The risky thing about alts is I don't want to add Alts and then remove then later due to a combination slot being added in.

As for where to go for CSPs, check the Brawl Expansion forum in the programming section. Of the site. Page 1 has some videos made by SammiHusky, they're what taught me.

If you need a link I'll link you.

When the build reaches it's peak I'll start adding in alternate models.



I'll check these out. Thankyou :)

As for the opener, I have plans to make my own opener. Aha, but let's see what this is anyway.





And to all, I have a pretty heft bug fixing list that I'm close to completing. I'm spending on average 4 hours a night after my 9 hour work shifts to get this build perfect.

We have one more SFX bank to fix up 3 more characters to fix up, some stages to add in/fix, and most of all we're still working on the 3 page code.

We're all working hard. Maybe I'll upload a video of what's to come?

How many new characters will be in the new build of the pack?

Well, we're replacing a few characters this time around. So it's still in the air... but in general, we added 3 more slots. I'll need to count.

When will the next version come out?

And you should also make announcer calls for each character if that is possible.

Hi, I'm new here.

How do I patch the files into a SSBB .iso?

It says dolphin-compatible, but I don't see where.

It's 100% dependant on the 3 page stage code.


If someone wants to come in and do that for me, they can be my guest. But it's such a small thing to me that it's not on my list at this point in time.


The Dolphin compatible version was crafted by Itman, who has been out of contact for a while now. I know nothing about Dolphin so unfortunately I can't help.

What's this about 3 pages SSS?

We're essentially making the dual roster code work like the triple rasta code in that the build will work with 3 RSBE folders that you can switch between. This gives you 3 of everything. We're going to use that in combination with the stage expansion code to give us 234 stages for our next release. Some Pokeball Pokemon will also be different between the folders complete with different SFX to add some variety to the Pokeball Pokemon we already know about. Other items are being considered as items are "for fun" anyway.

I say we're close a lot but our last report on the issue is that navigating through 3 RSBEs works, but if enough time is spent on page 3 it freezes. However our coder, BrawlBoy, and his partners are confident it will work with more tweaks, thus fixing the current issue.

And if all goes well, we may have other codes that will become compatible with our build but I don't want to promise anything just yet.

:)

Do you have a time frame of.when you think it will be released? Also I am having trouble switching to all 4 stage pages with the classic controller. Which buttons to I press?

The week in which the stage code is complete will be the frame.

But I can't schedule a release until then. We get closer everyday. That much I do know. But unfortunately that's all I know.

If this wasn't a code expirament it'd be easier to gauge, but this has never been done before... So it's not that simple to just give a date/frame.

Ok, and how do I switch to all 4 stage pages with the classic controller. Which buttons to I press?

X+Y in player 1 GameCube controller. Before you get to the Stage Select Screen.

Does it only work with game cube? Because it is not working with classic controller

I only use Gamecube.

So perhaps.

Is Ichigo going to be in the new version of the pack?
Do you plan on allowing other remotes to be able to switch between other stage pages?
Sorry for all these questions it's just that I'm hyped

I don't know yet... the Ichigos I've used don't really "hook" me. But so many people want him. I'm a little perplexed by it honestly. Do people just want the model or these particular PSAs? They're not bad, but I'm looking for a hook in accordance to Brawl 4 All and I'm having trouble seeing it.

But that doesn't mean he's not, it just means as of right now, I really don't know.

As for remotes switching between stages... I think I'll need to add instructions to the load screen or something because the code we're using is based on Don Jon Bravo's Dual roster code, and his forum has the commands for Wiimotes, but I don't know them because I aonly use the GameCube Controller.

And I understand. I'm hyped too! :) Getting it to a point where Brawl is... no longer work for me is such a relief. And I'm not there yet.

But like e very iteration of the build, I'm infinitely confused as to how I thought the previous version of the build was okay to release. We're really working on this. And it's to a point where I was like "Gee, this too many pieces of this were kind of broken in the previous release".

And I'll be that way again for every future iteration.


This morning I took a break from working on Brawl to play some other games (I do that sometimes aha) and I'm attempting my 503rd game, FarCry 3 (I'm way behind... beating 502 games will do that to you) and for some reason after I set a bought full of drugs on fire a though exploded in my head:

"Hey stupid, you could totally put Zero Suit Samus and Samus into one slot." So I paused the game and that's now what I'm doing. It'll provide another usable slot on the CSS.

Is this to be launched through Gecko OS, or somehow the same way Project M is launched, through the level creation screen? Sorry, its been ages since Ive messed with brawl hacking.
Im asking because for whatever reason, Gecko OS isnt showing up in my Homebrew Channel and nothing I do seems to change that. I wanna make sure thats what I need to do before I pursue it further. Project M launching method didnt work either. Im using the 4GB build on a Lexar 4GB SDHC.

I think they mean they want the psas not the model.

Hey Nebulon, I have some news/requests:

1. BaganSmashBros finally released Ridley 2.0:
It's only for PM, and not for Brawl EX like the 1.77 version that he released:
Is there any way you can convince him to release a version for BrawlEx or make Ridley 2.0 work for Brawl 4 All?

2. Piccolo has the same moveset as Broly. This also means that Piccolo's Final Smash freezes the game in both the 2gb and 4gb downloads. Also, is there any way to include a Broly that is Lssj by default with Lssj3 Final Smash? There is a Lssj/Lssj3 Mecha Broly and also extra LSSJ3 ALT's included in the original download.
3. Is there any reason why Battle Stadium D.O.N. Teen Gohan isn't included? It's a good moveset.
4. Speaking of DBZ there are a couple of new good PSAs you should try:
Future Trunks:
King Cold:
Fat Buu ALT(either Kirby or Dedede)  Super Janemba ALT(Link) Vegeta also says "Atomic Blast" extremely quiet, and I can't seem to choose Saiyan Saga Vegeta or King Vegeta. (These garments..They're PINK!?!)

5. I know Skull Kid has been brought up, but there is a PSA that has Toon Link's moveset but Skull Kid's awesome Final Smash:

6. Ryu, but no Chun-li? Let's not be sexist:

7. Shouldn't Riku be included, at least as an alt? The PSA is about as good as Sora's, Spiderman's, Wolverine's, and Ryu's (they need buffs on their Smash attacks/Final Smash's)
Why not include Sora's drive forms as ALTs? They're perfect:
Isn't Genesis a perfect ALT for Sephiroth?
8. Gray Fox and Snake are lonely; Do they need Raiden? Or Old Snake? Metal Gear Rex?
9. King K Rool PSA over Pit/Waluigi
10. Isaac PSA over Pit/Waluigi I don't mean to intrude, but according to this thread you have NOT played Golden Sun. Golden Sun is widely considered the best game for the GBA even among awesome titles like Metroid Fusion, Zero Mission, FFTacticsAdvance, Pokemon, Castlevania Aria of Sorrow, Circle of the Moon, (the list goes on..). Golden Sun is extremely addicting and has great music, villains, and smooth graphics(it was originally planned for the N64!) The only thing I would change is it's length, because it goes by so quickly, or at least it seems to.

11. T-Rex PSA over Yoshi. I think I stated this last time, but I did just see Jurassic World after all. Maybe someone could make a Spinosaurus or Indomitable Rex?
I understand that this might be a lot, so to create extra character slots, couldn't you combine Link+Skyward Link+Dark Link (like Mario, Mario 64, and Metal Mario), Toon Link+Young Link, Dr. Mario+Paper Mario, Pikachu+Pichu, Dragonite+Flygon, and Sonic+Shadow+Metal Sonic(I understand Sonic+Shadow is a WIP).

If you need to go even further, couldn't you go Tidus+Riku, Toon Link+Teen Gohan, Cloud+Trunks, or Waluigi/Pit+Isaac/King K Rool/Ridley 2.0/1.77?

It sure would be nice if Naruto+Saske+Kakashi (Ike+Marth+Falcon) Megaman+MegamanX(Ness+Samus), Zero+Axl(not sure who Axl's default is), and Tails+Knuckles (Meta+Jiggs) were possible. Wait, you said Samus+ZSS is possible, so maybe...?

After being on a hiatus from Brawl Hacking for 2-3 years, this is the first Brawl Hack pack that I downloaded, and all can say is...wow...it is unbelievable how much things have changed since I left. Character expansion, stage expansion, and One-Slot PSAs. This is probably one of the best hacks I have seen in a long time. I mean, some characters could be fixed, or given less cheap movesets (*cough, cough* TABUU *cough, cough*), and some characters can have better models, better looking animations, and more improved movesets. The Zero and Cloud movesets are outdated, I would consider using sDo0m's Cloud PSA with Albakifa's edits, and CalizKingz's Zero moveset, because they look a 100x better. That, and I already edited them. Somehow this old timer figured it out lol. But, besides that, this is very well done. The glitches I found are freezing glitches:
-Kakashi and Tidus silent freeze the game when going to a stage
-Random freezing when selecting a stage, causing the loud, annoying BEEP (one thing I did not miss when I was gone haha)
-This happened once, but at the Project M Installer, when I selected Play, it crashed
-At the Wiimote Strap Menu, at random times, the game froze

I'm not too upset over this, considering that it happened...30% of the time. But I hope that...whatever that is causing those problems will be fixed in the next release, or future release of this pack. I'm also hoping that you would add in more characters to this, since I heard that, using that BrawlEX thing, you could have over 100 characters in the game, so I hope you can add some very good movesets and characters to this pack :)

Hmmm nice list you put together.. Somethings are being discussed so you may get to see somethings you will really like in the next build. He says this one is intended to be the best yet :)