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Title: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 02, 2015, 01:27:14 AM
Hey guys, I used to do a lot of hacking on Brawlex and I went away from it for a while. Now I'm back but I've forgotten a lot… Anyway I used to use a common5.pac to load my csps instead of the regular sc_selcharacter.pac because it could store more space. However I don't know how to get the game to load the csps from the common5… please help. Im just not sure where to put it… could someone please tell me where I need to put my common5.pac in conjunction with Brawlex.. Thanks


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 02, 2015, 07:51:23 AM
You know where the fighter folder goes? In the folder where it goes,(For example, commonly, it's "pf") and from that folder, the "system" folder.(Make one if there isn't one there; when you put it there, you should have a "system" folder in the same folder as "fighter".)


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 02, 2015, 06:43:12 PM
Oh wow thank you. So in other words there needs to be another system folder inside of the fighter folder. Ill try it.

Post Merge: January 02, 2015, 06:46:09 PM
Wait I hope you don't mean to put a system folder in Pf… because I already have that and it didn't work...

Post Merge: January 02, 2015, 07:13:32 PM
Ok haha never mind it worked. However now Im missing on of my regular portraits which was switched with one I made and all the colors are out of order… Plus Im missing 3 other portraits that I made...


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 02, 2015, 07:56:07 PM
No, next to the fighter folder, not in it.
And yes, I mean in pf.

But anyways, glad you got it to work. You can always test which one is which by exporting the portraits as backups, then importing pictures with text or something documenting which one is which(Like naming them); then you can see which palette goes to which icon.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 02, 2015, 09:22:26 PM
Yeah thanks a lot, I actually have it running exactly as I had before. turns out I needed common2, common3, and common5 in my system folder. :P

Oh hey btw, could you help me with something else? I want to make a csp for Samus that is exactly like Shiek/Zelda's you know how they have a csp with both of them in the same box and how you can choose which one you want to be. Would you happen to know how I can create something like this? In other words a Samus/Zero suit samus csp? If you don't thats ok Ill start a new post too.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 03, 2015, 09:59:38 AM
I don't know what you're talking about choosing which one you want to be off of one CSP; are you referring to how when they're separated, they have the same CSP but with the different character in the picture have an outline?


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 03, 2015, 10:34:20 PM
Yes exactly what you described Like how how Zelda/Sheiks csp works


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 04, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Each one is just a single picture; they're just simply pictures that are identical in every way except for slightly tweaked; so to do that effect, you'd just make 2 CSPs(128x160 in case you don't already know) and make them look the same except for which one you have in front of the other; then just import them into the common5.

Later(Maybe tomorrow; if not, I'll try today), I'll make the ones for the normal palettes, and then templates for alternate Samus/Zero-Suit Samus CSPs, and upload it to the vault with instructions.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 04, 2015, 11:07:37 PM
Oh really? awesome! I really want to do it too because it would make sense for Samus to have the same situation as Zelda. This is cool. Please let me know if you do it. Thanks


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 08:31:34 AM
I already PMed you that I did, so it's at the top of my Vault.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 10:15:02 AM
This is really awesome, Just as I envisioned. So when I put these in I'll be able to select either one of them from the same csp by clicking on their pictures right? IE it will have that white outline around whichever one I click? Or do I have to program something for that?


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
No, you import the ones that say "Samus" over Samus' CSPs, and the ones that say "Zero-Suit Samus" over Zero-Suit Samus' CSPs; besides which, the white outline is only for Pokemon Trainer, and there never was anything(To my knowledge) that would make them the same icon, not to mention that it's simpler for users anyway to have them be in separate slots; I'll show you an example of what it'll do, though(It's a bad photo editing, and I didn't take the photo of Project M, but it shows basically what it'll do when you replace the pictures:
(http://i.imgur.com/3xqgQEi.png)

Post Merge: January 05, 2015, 10:54:43 AM
Notice how the two characters have different characters in the front in the portraits, but they're different portraits.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 10:59:25 AM
Oh but the white outline does show for Zelda and Sheik. If you turn on regular brawl you'll see it when you click on Shiek's picture. Oh and also I just realized that when you change it to a hacked version of brawl you can't pick Shiek to start out with anymore… I want to make her csp and css box with both Shiek and Zelda. I know it's easier to pick separate characters if you separate the boxes, but Im going for a certain look. I want them to work like the normal game… Sorry I know it might sound a little weird..


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 11:20:10 AM
???
In regular Brawl, you can't select Sheik; you have to start playing in-game and then transform into her. It's only if hacked that you can select Sheik...

How it works in-game for Zelda/Sheik in regular Brawl is, you can select Zelda from the CSS; when in-game, you can transform between the two of them. Zelda's CSP is the equivalent of my Samus CSP. So, if you're trying to mimick Brawl's exact effect, just import the Samus CSPs over Samus, and then vertex Zero-Suit Samus' CSS away from the CSS, or code it to go away.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 11:25:12 AM
I just tried it in regular brawl you can select Sheik from the start. And you don't have to transform into her. no hacks...


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 11:29:36 AM
No you can't; this is what the CSS in regular Brawl looks like when you have every single character unlocked; I play regular Brawl more than I do modded Brawl, and have every character, so I know this is correct:
(http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/complete-super-smash-bros-brawl-character-roster-big.jpg)


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 11:43:11 AM
Sorry Im not asking it clearly… I mean that I want to be able to choose Samus/Zero suit Samus from the same box. Meaning that I can select either one from the start without having to transform first. I want to be able to pick either one by clicking them with the hand. When I do that I would see a white outline around them.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 11:52:13 AM
Well, other than the white line, that's precisely what my CSP pack does. All you need is the files in the system folder, so that there are 2 separate CSS's for each of them, like Project M has.
image of Project M CSS here: http://projectmgame.com/en/characters (http://projectmgame.com/en/characters)

Post Merge: January 05, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
The white line is just simply the picture, but edited to have a white line; I just can't make the white line, and if you'll notice, the standard Brawl CSPs for Zelda/Sheik don't have white lines:
(http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/4/47/ZeldaSheik_Palette_%28SSBB%29.png)


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 12:09:29 PM
But I mean when click on Shiek's picture on the csp you can start as her. Trust me Ive literally done it in regular brawl. You have to select Shiek/Zelda first. Then you can literally click Shiek's picture to play as her first. Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJxY0Ozr18 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJxY0Ozr18)

This is how Im trying to Make Samus/Zero Suit Samus work

Post Merge: January 05, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
Yes you're right about the white line. But you can directly select Shiek.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
That's fake; clicking on that part of the portrait only changes the palette; not to mention that it's not anywhere in the coding to enable that.(Youtubers commonly use the same effects of blurring for a split second and many split seconds of flashes to fake things, diverting your eyes away, like a magician does) I'm telling you from experience clicking there, as Zelda, even, that that doesn't work.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 05, 2015, 12:24:55 PM
But I can do it on regular brawl… I swear I don't put on any codes/hacks no sd card in my wii. It works like that normally

Post Merge: January 05, 2015, 12:26:49 PM
Actually when I DO implement Brawlex THEN you can't pick Shiek. Regular Brawl you can I swear.


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: windhunter7 on January 05, 2015, 01:32:28 PM
Ok. I just looked it up, and you were right about that(I guess I was just always clicking the wrong spot on the portrait); I guess you could attempt to duplicate the effect by vertexing Samus' CSP location slightly to the right(Where she is on the new CSP), and Zero-Suit Samus' CSP location slightly to the left(Where she is on the new CSP); then you would have to render the parts that overlap invisible.(Alpha)


Title: Re: I can't get common5.pac to load csps please help
Post by: Cassius17 on January 06, 2015, 10:14:52 AM
woah.. sounds like a bit of doing… I hope I can do it.. Ive been trying to figure out what I have to change in the cosmetics to make them both go in the same box so that they work just like Zelda and Shiek… I think it's also a coding thing… But I don't know how to do it… Thanks for all your help though.. I appreciate it. If you find something else out please let me know.