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I've come to bring you,

I've been working on it for a while:


Also, spiritneox helped port a few of the animations(all throws and Blade Beam and Cross Slash, along with the Side Smash) in which i haven't shown a few yet.

I'll be releasing it in a few weeks or so, so any assistance is appreciated.

-ZeusLink-

wow! everything is looking real good so far if you need anymore help just pm me

Again, thanks a ton for the animations. I'll probably be working on Down Tilt, Down Smash, Down, Side and Neutral Aerials and his Up Taunt. Final Smash is gonna have to wait a while...

I have the animations for the aerials and down smash if you want those

May I play test this please if not then I will wait for the final product?

the model you are using, is that the 3ds version?

I believe both models are the dissidia versions

It's really a model from jrush's Cloud Dissidia PSA. I modded the Sword heavily on both models. And added the sword on his back too. For now, both are the only stable models.


Great, send em over!


Sure, after I get the moves added, I'll post a link in a bit.

Okay thanks I am definitely looking forward to this plus will watch this like a hawk.

so hype. very yes...cant word....too awesome...lol

Same here. Amen.

This looks glorious. Very excited to see how he fits into Project M EX with a more complete moveset

And that is what exactly will motivate me into making a PM version!

honestly i have a team that would be willing to do it for ya, just gotta give us the goods..ehehe

Fine with me!

This is pretty cool, do you have any footage of it in action?

Not at the moment, since I don't have a capture card.

I could help with that if you want. I recently obtained a capture card

we'd love. to test. the  progress.

Same Here

90% finished with Cloud, currently. Limit Charge half works, Taunts, sword glow and all attacks done. Currently working on sfx, graphics, and costumes.

Permission to be excited?

Permission granted ;)

To awesome I assume he has all of his limit enhanced moves besides finishing touch already ?

Pretty much. Zoom-In effects are also added.

Oh gosh please may I see some previews my hype is going through the roof for this

would love to test it when he is ready

Edit: love the work so far I you need any costume ideas do the infantry man cloud and the kingdom hearts as green and red costumes the ff7 costum should be a blue costume and advent children cloud should be his default or a blaack costume

Hold on, guys! This isn't dead yet!

Graphics and Specials work as they should!

Special-N:

Side-Special:

Up-Special:

Finishing Touch:

All of em also have zoom-in effects when Limit is activated, too.

Now to finish the final smash, and it's complete!

@spiritneox I'd appreciate a ported animation of the final smash(only the FinalAttack animation) though, that's completely optional.

I gotcha my good friend It'll be here by tuesday

I think my heart just stopped to much epicness...

Looks awesome :o I hope he'll have his KH costume as an option as that's my fav version of Cloud and was kinda bummed to not see it in Sm4sh. I main Cloud so if you need playtesters, I am available. Tough, one thing's for sure, as soon as you release this, I'll IMMEDIATLY add it onto my build.

Also quick question, do you have plans for a BrawlEx version of him? By that I mean, will you make it possible for him to have his own soundbank like over a boss or something?

I probably might want to add a BrawlEx build, too. Though, it can take a while, and gfx could be over an assist trophy character.

I'll release a beta build, and next build will have a BrawlEx version, though, the KH costume idea is very relevant, so that will be included in the beta build.

And I also mained Cloud in the past, too, which was why I even started!

Cool :) Can't wait!

Please may I play test Cloud I'll pay top dollar ha ha!

Hey just wondering how are things going with Cloud

Cloud's Final Smash is nearly finished. All that's needed are graphic effects to match it and it's pretty much done.

Edit: I'm also planning to make his BrawlEx voice over Master Hand, for ALM5252's Project M Ex.

I assume Cloud does work on Wii?

Sweet, I don't use that slot yet! Japanese or english voice or even both options?

 @Suna: I mainly tested it on Wii, actually. Don't know how it'll go on Dolphin.

@Xirvet: I'll probably only be using Japanese voices, to keep it original.

Well I will just sit here and wait then popcorn anyone?

Well I'll test him on Dolphin whenever it comes out and hope he works

Dudes, I just found this thread and I am VERY impressed of what it's looking like! We needed a Smash 4 Cloud moveset for Brawl/PM! I wish I had people like you on my team, because you people are very talented at this and much better than I am on modding. (One can dream) That being said, I'm here if you need help with anything, I'd like to support this any way that I can! And whenever this is finished to your standards, would you and spiritneox be interested in joining my project? PM me for more info and whatnot if you are.

How are things going with clouds final smash need any help

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Ok so I just got the test build late last night and I have been playing all moring and here are my thoughts

I can do the balancing and GFX edits for you If you want but I have no Idea on how to animate.

aside from those changes when your are done I would love to make a version of the moveset that is balanced for Brawl minus Zeus at some point with your permission.

And lastly I would like to request that you add cloud's dissidia doudecim outfit (this version http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/1/18/Cloud-ThirdEXMode.png/revision/latest?cb=20111011040438 (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/1/18/Cloud-ThirdEXMode.png/revision/latest?cb=20111011040438)   with the ultima weapon as his sword.) please?

Hey how's cloud going Zeus everything ok?

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Ok did some further play testing today and I noticed the first hit of air cross slash is actually a very strong meteor causing the other 2 hits to very rarely connect.

Looks amazing! Forgive me for asking but when did you plan on releasing the mod?

It depends on how much I plan on adding to Cloud. Thanks to Xirvet, now Cloud has the option of an English, or Japanese SFX. It'll also have a Brawlex version too, and I planned his SFX there to be over Master Hand.

This mod is truly one of my most favorites it has been awhile since something of this caliber has been this fun and impossible to stop playing with.

I knew it would be worth the hype!

can i betatest?

And like I told ya, I can redo an eglish pack for BrawlEx too :p

This is amazing

Please do pardon if this is irrelevant but I just wanted to say thanks for the Cloud test build it is very fun to play with and I hope things are going well on your end. 

Now, i want to test your Cloud build as well, i've played with multiple cloud builds in the past, and had a chance to play the original Sm4sh cloud before, and very much preffered that moveset, i'd like to play with it, and provide general feedback. If that is permissiable.

Progress report:

Cloud's been gong smoothly, and has a new sword trail, as well.
Currently working on separating Blade Beam from Cloud(like Lucas's PK Fire not being connected to the ThrowN bone)

If you ever need anything else tested and what not look me up.

If you want, I could test it as well

Okay, after a few hours of play testing, i have a conclusive analysis of the Sm4sh Cloud.

First off, i love the devotion to the replication of a moveset. I found some issues, but i'll discuss those in a minute.

The character is EXTREMELY fluid, it feels extremely different than what i remember (mind you, i haven't played Smash4 in forever.)

Okay, i'm going to touch on the animations.
I feel the taunt, and winning animations are really stiff and awkard.
I had a hard time discerning any actual combat based animations, they seemed perfectly fine as far as i could tell.

Oh lord, is cloud a monster, i decided to import him into my current BrawlEX build. and fight off against some PM characters. Cloud is really fast, and agile. with his variety of multi hit moves, he is extremely punishing.
The main problem i think the character has, is mostly End lag, he has decent start up lag, but his end lag is so minimal, to the point where i can finish off a move, then immedietely go into my next move. i was able to hold people down in spots. But this was mostly pertinent with his smashes, rather than his specials.
his specials actually, are perfectly fine, well in start up and end lag zones. one of his specials is extremely confusing.

Now, to report on an error. the Down Special does not work that well.
I would go into Down special, and wait for an enemy to hit me with ANY move. the moment i was hit, i got full charge, and could dish out some EVIL justice. but, it wasn't always guaranteed either. most of the time, if the enemy hit me, the counter would reset, i think. I'm not sure how this move is supposed to work. i mean, i understand what it's supposed to do, but i'm not sure how it's actually working under the hood. either way, it doesn't work as i think it's supposed to.

Onto the moveset visuals.
I enjoyed most of the visuals that the moveset had to offer, the flowing bright green sword trail. how you got the Cross Slash working. (although i wish it could visual look better, but 64x64. you are quite limited.)

On all of the moves, the Down-B's visuals look... squished, rather than being a rectangle,  it's forcing itself to be a square. (again 64x64) Couldn't you make it more rectanglish to get that FF7 ui feel down much better? not sure what the appropriate would be i'm pretty sure you could 64x32. also while poking through your PSAs texture files, to see how you did things. your Excitebike 0, is the only one where you have translucent background. on the rest of them, you left the edges with black spots.

Now onto some suggestions.
I think cloud's damage is perfectly fine. i find his End lag to be a problem, and the Down Special is proving quite difficult. now i think he moves perfectly well, his recovery is just fine. I don't know if he's supposed to be this much of a damage out put monster or not, it may what he is in Smash4, but i was able to decimate a lot of people. but he is quite easy to use, and is extremely fun.

Also, bring Kingdom Hearts 1, and Kingdom Hearts 2. Cloud Costumes, i prefer Kingdom Hearts 1 more, but i think a KH2 would be appreciated by others. Maybe work on some of the stiff/akward animations. so far it's an amazing start and i definitely can't wait for the final product.

I really love the mod. Though my only question is when will you guys add the smash 4 imports?

Hi, do you mind if I also get my hands on the test build? You obviously don't have to, but thanks anyways.

Three-Four months of work provides a lot, especially with Cloud.

Cloud's pac. file has been pretty big, so I was trying to keep it under 500 KB, in case. I found a new Cross Slash graphic recently, too.


If you put it in PM, maybe it could be the issue, because of the different variable system.

Though it was my first try at float variable adding, so it could have a few bugs or so.


One of the users is currently working on them, so I'm currently waiting for those to come out.

Also, thanks for the suggestions and critique, guys. Most of these issues should be very easy to fix before release.

zeus if your trying to lower file size I would suggest re animated any ported animations cause the animation files also factor into how much file size a character can take this will be important to take note of if you decide to use the smash 4 models

Here's my story. I play Sm4sh Cloud a lot, so I see the differences very clearly. Here are the noticeable ones.

Before I begin, I tested this on PM Legacy XP beta 2.0
I had to replace Ike to use Cloud and make a new wbsf file again. Was I supposed to replace Ike? Idk how to actually add Clpud but to be fair, I used a mod of Project M (Legacy XP).

I saw all the hitboxes in Training mode when I tested this way

-Harder to spam short hop auto cancel up air

-Hard to spam fullhop autocancel down air.
They both still autocancel though

-I think fair and dair don't spike. Though to be fair they both just straight up kill

-Upsmash x3 into a couple of up airs is still dumb

-Fsmash and dsmash kept respective power

-If opponent hits him while charging limit, limit is either reset or instantly charged. You already recognized this though.

-No way to stop an aerial limit charge unless interrupted, charge completes, or you land. You're screwed if you initiate it offstage. Plus you glide in the air as you do so.

-Different limit charge animation, no sound but it's a test build

-Limit blade beam only does 8 damage and decent semispike-ish knockback

-Limit cross slash does 20 and retains the relative power of the sm4sh counterpart.

-Finishing touch has quite a bit more horizontal reach. Bigger tornado

-Limit climhazzard goes really high, probably too high. Bottom blast zone to still above final destination high.

-Cross slash in general looks kinda bad. You addressed this though.

-Blade beam is a windbox at point blank. Starts to actually be a beam after close range.

-Afaik the only way to cancel limit charge yourself is to input left or right to roll that way. Shield does nothing. Grounded obviously.

-Nair still godly as ever
-Bair still good
-Up tilt has some more endlag I think
-I didn't see ftilt, dtilt, nor jab yet, woops
-Fthrow and bthrow offstage are now more dangerous in PM with higher gravity
-With that said, it's even easier to follow up up throw with an up air due to said gravity
-didn't try dthrow either
-didn't try final smash

This is pretty off track if you're trying to port Sm4sh Cloud 1:1, but if you're balancing him for these different smash games, I understand why there were a few changes

Thanks for letting me test him! Looking really good so far.

If you need anyone to test for vBrawl, I'd be glad to help. I have no idea which variables, but I know PM uses some variables differently.

I think I see your point there. I'll try to get the MotionEtc down to 3,500 KB or something like it in case.

A lot of my complaints with this PSA have already been brought up, but I did notice a few things that no one else has seemed to mention.

Firstly, Limit Break stuff. I noticed that Cloud doesn't gain Limit from dealing damage. In Smash 4, Cloud gains limit once he deals 250% damage. This is super easy to do in PSA once you know what you're doing; you just have to use the "If Hitbox Connects" requirement on the SFX or GFX tabs and then have it add to whatever variable controls limit. I didn't test if Cloud gains Limit from taking damage, though there is a variable that controls damage taken. I also noticed that Limit Break persists after death, which should not be the case. Even though the meter appears to be empty if you're hit out of Limit Charge or die, the charge is stored. It's a graphical error, but it makes Cloud so much harder to play.

Secondly, Climhazzard doesn't work like the Smash 4 version at all. If this isn't meant to be a 1-1 port, than it's kind of okay, but the move goes lower than it's supposed to, and Cloud can grab the ledge at any point during the downward slash. In Smash 4, Cloud can only grab the ledge after he falls back to his starting point.

Lastly, up smash's hitbox is incorrect. If your opponent stands on one of the platforms on battlefield and then Cloud uses up smash, it does nothing. In Smash 4, the move lasts until the sword reaches behind Cloud's head, but here it only seems to connect during the swing itself. The sword trail still persists, so it even looks like the move should connect, but it doesn't.

Overall, this is a good start, but it's far from finished IMO.

It is a test build.

Can you make it compatible with gamidame_k's cloud import?

Well, sure.

The sword may need to be resized for the sword glow, though.

Is there a test build of this moveset ready to download

Could I test your Cloud too?

I'd love to test Cloud if you want

Whens the release date?

yo blazing hearts amazing this season

Hello!!

Just letting you know that I sent you a PM about Cloud on smashboard

I would like to make all my model and custom model compatible with your work!

I'd be happy to test your Cloud build

This project look amazing

Hey how are things going with cloud you need any thing from me

May I test Cloud?

@spiritneox
Things are going uphill from here, actually. I got into particle editing so Cloud will look better than before when using Finishing Touch. Though, I'm having troubles with his victory animations.

Also, I probably might want to patch Cloud up before releasing another test build, now that nearly every issue is addressed.

Sword Trails:
Ever since I got into particle editing, Cloud's Specials have undergone some changes in graphics:

Special-N
SpecialS

that looks so cool cant wait to use it

I really hope this mod doesn't just vanish and get dropped like some other really cool mods.
I'd like to make a PM compatible version of this mod when it released. I'm just assuming it's for brawl only, but I know how to make Brawl characters PM compatible. I don't know if this makes me more trustable or something, but I'm a Smash 2, Legacy XP and PMEX dev. I also mod Smash 4, and play Smash 4 competitively. I also got a lot of experience for competitive PM now so there's that.

Ooooh, neat, I love random little touches like this, small things are what make stuff special!

@Kagerou
Thanks! I was thinking Cloud could use something like this for the newer Wii U Cloud models coming soon, including Advent costumes.

Oh, and the Smash 4 graphics you used on Fox would look perfect on Cloud, too.

@CaliburTek
Sure thing!

Also, if I recall correctly, you were a Wii U Roy player on Smashladder, right?

Also, I'm looking forward to Cloud being used in various builds along the way!

Hm? Did you want Fox's GFX things? I could give them if you wanted them.

This is gonna be an instant addition in my SmashEX Pack.  Can't wait! :)

 @Kagerou
Perfect! Send 'em over when you need to!

Awesome! AND yeah, even though I'm ranked 2nd I consider myself the best mainly cuz the other guy has 490+ matches lol.

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Post Merge: October 24, 2016, 06:54:09 PM

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http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Cloud (http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Cloud) Cloud's exact frame data, BKB/KBG/Angles and more are all here, so if you want some 100% accurate moves it'll be great.

Oh, I've been using that very often, actually. I personally recommend it for these types of PSA's, especially Cloud.

Defiantly can't wait for the next version

Hey I apoligize for looking like I am just Advertising my stuff her but I recently start a moveset and need as much help as possible
 here it is
http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=77783.0 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=77783.0)

Nice job, ZuesLonk And you even made the moveset comparable with the Smash 4 Cloud imports

Soo, any news on Cloud? im kinda exited for this PSA, you are doing an awesome job on this bro!

Cloud's going well, thanks!

I'm also going to include an optional Advent Children moveset in the pack, for reasons.

It'll be a hybrid of the past Cloud PSAs, with some of my own animations, mostly in reference to Dissidia 2015/Smash Bros Nuke, along with graphics.

Your move set for cloud looks identical to the sm4sh  clouds moveset out of curiosity do you plan to do other smash4 movesets after cloud

awesome dude! cant wait

Sounds great so far. Do you happen to have a movelist for the advent children moveset

@spiritneox: Well, I have nearly every special planned out for him, in reference to his Limit Breaks.

@HyperHandCRazy: I probably might not work on any Smash 4 movesets after Cloud, maybe.

Though I could plan on assisting others with graphics and particles.

I hope you do work with others even if its just graphics because your work is great

Holy crap. Only now did i see this and im starting to get hyped. Can't wait to play cloud. Keep it up, only 0.2% left.

Soo, any news?

Its dead.

So impatient.
I'm certain it's still being worked on, he has his own life and can't work on this at all times, same as the rest of us-- just wait and you'll see.

oh yeah i totally undestand that! i just was kinda curious, in no way i mean that the thread was dying! sorry if i bother a little   :af2:

Well, Blade Beam is getting a new graphic, along with imported graphics from 3DS.

no.

Apparently, it's true.

Also, I probably might be working on Cloud even less than before until December in terms of school and stuff.

I found out it has a long way to go until completion. It will need these versions:

Project M
BrawlEx Version
Regular Version

Brawl
BrawlEx Version
Regular Version

Brawl-
BrawlEx Version
Regular Version

And on top of that, there are new Wii U models for Cloud currently being worked on, so until I obtain those, I'll use my edited version of DSX8's Soldier Cloud model for a base.

take your time dude, no rush! make it the best Cloud PSA out there (im sure it already is the best one though)

Yeah same here I have to wait till December before I can focus on something other than college work, have most of Ragna's special at a point to where they don't freeze or do some really stupid stuff just need to fix down special and grounded side special

But everything sounds great so far on your end

so i should apologize this took SO long, and probably alot has changed since the test build you sent me, and videos have probably already been recorded, but after alot of...problems, i finally recorded the showcase video for this mod

https://youtu.be/TDQ0jfdLPqY here it is, again im SO sorry it took so long

Ah, no harm done. Thank you very much for the video!

You sir are a blessing! You're my inspritation! Keep up the great work sir!

Would it be okay if I could run or test him before he's out in the public  :srs:

The side smash works perfect on dolphin hun.

Yeah, I think I heard that from someone else, too. It could have something to do with the resolution difference.

And on lower resolution Cloud textures, it didn't freeze.


From here on out, I'll have to complete it first before releasing it.

Dawww. I wanted to make a PM version.
I only played around with a very old version of it where Cloud's limit could only charge from the start.

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I know how to do thing like the PM jab, and add dash dancing. It's honestly pretty easy.

You read KJP's tutorial too, huh? I'll see about this since numerous people want to make a PM version.

By numerous I mean two.

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Post Merge: November 27, 2016, 08:10:32 AM

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Quick Progress Update:

-Cloud's Side Smash freeze has been fixed and the graphics removed.
-Up Special no longer slides on sloped surfaces in special landing animation.
-Slight graphic updates
-Kitsu's gfx added for jabs, pummel and throws

More coming soon.

In the end their really isn't much to do to Cloud besides give him the PM tools to make him PM worthy, except for hmm..
Maybe a chaingrab?

His down throw pretty much covers that too. I tried in both Brawl and PM. Lasts pretty long especially with Cross Slash.

...apologies for off-topic-ness, but someone I've been conversing with seems to be under the impression that you won't be releasing this.

...Still, progress seems to be going well.

That's an odd impression...

The latest release date would be January, though I'm planning on a late December release. And school is...y'know.

Proper models and BrawlEx stuff are needed, too.

Just as I'd thought.

still, if you want any assistance for BrawlEx things, feel free to ask.
although, i dunno how helpful i'd be, depends what you would need to do still...

I have sfx set up over Master Hand, though I can't load BrawlEx with my device, so soundbank and sfx loading will do.

Then testing it out afterward.

Hmmm... Doesn't seem to be too much left to do for that then. Alrighty.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zp0wb2ogea8ckhm/Project%20M%20styled%20airdodge.chr0?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/zp0wb2ogea8ckhm/Project%20M%20styled%20airdodge.chr0?dl=0)
I don't know if you have changed the skeleton for Cloud since 9/XX/16-ish, but here's Cloud with PM style airdodge transitioning to his specialfall.

Thank you very much!

Could you PM me this mod please? I'd love to try it out!

I haven't really looked into this thread at all; after reading all the pages in this thread, I say, I'm impressed with your guys' work into getting Cloud in Brawl. Keep up the good work!  ;)

Again, thanks for the support, guys!

Progress report: With Cloud being pretty much finished, I plan to release him on the same day he was released for DLC, December 15.

After I put the finishing touches on the VBrawl version:

CaliburTek will be working on the PM version, now that I have proof that he makes a really good Brawl to PM port.

spiritneox is working on Brawl Minus version, if I recall correctly.

And Kitsu is working on the BrawlEx version.

<3!

Can't wait to Play as him, thank you for putting your time and effort into making practically a perfect Cloud   :af2:

talk about a Christmas present

This Is Some Awesome Progress On Cloud Keep Up The Good Work.

Awesome! Thanks man!

Any chances of a last preview before the final product?

Not yet, unfortunately.

Progress Report:

-Cloud's PM version and BrawlEx version is complete!
-PM BrawlEx version is in progress at the moment.

Prepare for release tomorrow!

It's lit!

Permission to be excited once again?

Permission once again granted!

As for Cloud, V1 is finished! I'm currently able to make previews again, so what you'll see is what you'll get!

Todays the day!

It sure is!

Now released:
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=213612 (http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=213612)

Can i make a psa based off this? i'll give huge credit.

What is the PSA you're making?

Just adding fire to be honest.

Alright, then.

Thanks!

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I'm not gonna upload it. And is the f smash fixed?

It is fixed.

Thanks!

FINALLY ! I love you :D

Since I am finally free I have 2 things to say

1)sorry I could not get you the win1 and win2 animations before release, lately a lot of unexpected personal events poped up on me I'll get them to you asap

2) as for brawl minus versions I'll will actually make 2 versions, one for brawl minus 4.0bc and one for brawl minus ZeusEx

As someone who has silently checked up on this project every so often, I have to say that the progress you have made is astounding. This is easily among the most impressive custom PSAs that I've ever seen and I've had a blast playing around with it since its release.

On behalf of everyone who has and will play with this, thank you for all of the time and effort you put into recreating Cloud and congratulations on getting this project completed and released.

Excellent moveset. Though there are a few animations I came across. I don't mean to sound rude or anything but, animations like the "AttackAirHi"...It was better looking in the beta version and now it's just weird looking (no offense), and the wait animations...THEY were kinda better in the beta but now it looks like it's gotten worse. (Again no offense, I'd actually would like to know what happened) So I used the old animations instead. Currently I have a custom PSA that is combined with at least a couple of the most popular Cloud PSA's and now I'm trying to switch to this PSA.

I may keep the one I have already with combinations and animations from the beta of this PSA.
As of now I'm working working on balancing hitboxes for this PSA. Hopefully I'll enjoy this moveset.

It's alright. They should be coming in the next update, fortunately.


It's been a difficult project, honestly. I'm just glad I was able to accomplish something that could *potentially* be used in many Brawl Packs(mostly Project M)


I pretty much understand this, though once I get a better computer, I may try porting some animations too, though only when things get worse. In this case, AttackAirHi.

Man this mod is addicting.

I've been following this thread closely and this is an amazing mod, but some animations can bee a little "janky" like bair that destroys Cloud's arms (this could be a problem with the models), up and down smash look good but at the end of the animation Cloud snaps quickly to his idle, looking very weird, not to disrespect you of course, i just have noticed this.
I think RED NiNjA's Cloud of the few animations made, some feel a bit more accurate and fluid like dair and uair, but maybe using those animations is out of the question. The other ones custom made by you like his tilts are solid.

Overall though, this mod is so much fun, congratulations on finishing and releasing a lot of work put into it. I'll be looking forward for updates.

Why does Cloud sometimes have Limit at the start of a game and sometimes he doesn't ? F-Air throws up instead of down and when holding Up-B with Limit you can float around. But besides that, I haven't found anything to criticise. Pretty good work!

Huh, works flawlessly for me, and im using a USB running Riivo running B-Minus.

Speaking of B-Minus is the B-Minus version out yet?

Nice job! He feels almost like the real Wii U/3DS Cloud, from the green sword-glow, to the awesome hit-stun on his F-Smash. Save for a few hiccups, the animation is real smooth, and definitely on the top tier of hacked movesets.

A few critiques (Brawl version): it's a little hard to land the F-Smash on the Alloys. I understand the physics are different on those characters, though.

Also, the Trophy Base in Subspace Emissary is messed up. I know hackers don't generally care about SSE, but one of the great things about this Cloud hack is that, unlike Wii U/3DS, you can actually take him into an adventure mode and hack up some Primids, so it'd be cool if everything was functional in SSE.

(really hope Smash Switch has an Adventure mode...)

It will be worked on by one of the KCMM users.


You mean the trophy tossing stuff? If so, then yeah, I thought the Smash Throw animations took up much space, so they were deleted temporarily.


I actually don't know how these work in terms of entry and dying, since he keeps limit after death, too.

Hopefully you are able to fix Cloud's Limit soon. And what about the floaty UP-B ? Any ideas already? I think thats a bigger problem then with the Limit.

If you are using the pm version it could be because of the la bit variables

I am using PM but I have no idea how to fix it.

Well, I'm eager to see if you add it back in.

P.S.: One small thing to mention; the down-smash moves Cloud slightly backwards.

I just found another glitch. When King Dedede sucks Cloud in from close range, (god damnit it sounds so wrong) King Dedede freezes and Cloud vanishes. Doesn't happen with Kirby tho.

XDDDD  Lmfao..

Hey, i love this PSA you guys did an amazing job with it! It feels almost exactly like Sm4sh Cloud. Though there are some bugs I've noticed, sorry if they were already reported:
Entrance: Sometimes Cloud will have Limit Charge when entering
Dash Attack: Sometimes moves characters it hits to Cloud's center
Aerial Neutral-B: Hitboxes are off
Limit Charge Up-B: Holding B afterwards will cause Cloud to float in the air, he falls normally when B is released
Aerial Down-B: If you activate Limit Charge you lose all vertical momentum

This is probably a noob question, but is this mod supposed to replace Ike or add Cloud as a separate character. I downloaded the files and didn't see any css, or Brawlex config files so the former was my first assumption.

It could go over Ike as well. The cosmetics are probably gonna be in the next version.

How do I add him as a separate character? I'd prefer that route. Much appreciated for the help! :)

I actually don't know much about that, to be honest, which is why I had someone else help me out. I wasn't able to do so because I'm using USB to mod, and it doesn't work very well. However, there is a tutorial to doing so, which is BrawlEx.

I've placed Cloud over Ike just to test him out. Works fine except for his jab. Only if I hit someone will I sometimes be able to get the second hit of the jab to work. I cannot get the third jab hit to start. Seems to be an awful lot of input lag.

if you are using project m use the pm version for full compatibility

I'm using BrawlEx.

There's also a PM BrawlEx version, too. It has a video showing it as well. The sword sound effects will be worked on soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZnAr2gAFs

Ohh I hadn't used that version because of the sword fixes. I'll get on that!

I was trying to put this cloud on smash bros infinite 3.0 and every time I try to play with four people it doesn't work it works on training but not on 4 player smash?
 

I haven't encountered this issue, actually...it must have something to do with the pack, because it might be glitchy, otherwise it could be filesize issues.

I got it fixed just had to redownload and put it back sorry about that

Using the PM BrawlEx version now and the only major glitch I can find is that if Cloud does his B+Up with limit fully charged, he can hover in mid air as long as you hold B+Up

Yeah, I think many has encountered this issue as well. It should be fixed in the next version, luckily. Thanks for the pointer!

I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet but Clouds Model gets all wonky when the "GAME" appears once match ends. It only happens when the game slows down for the slight few seconds. You'll notice this more when someone grabs a Slow Timer item against him. Other than that, this Project turned out great!

I think this is due to some of his ported animations. It happens with any model. These might have to be re-ported in order for animations to be balanced in slow-mo.

Edit: Added poll on primary sword trace.

Cloud may also have some custom made sword trace options too, which are alternate.

Currently starting on this for Cloud's 3DS alt:

Nice looking good so far

I've also started porting animations, so progress is going faster.

Put up a discord link:

https://discord.gg/P8e4JUC (https://discord.gg/P8e4JUC)

Just for random Cloud discussion and stuff