Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking => Attacks and Animations => Topic started by: namq on May 31, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
Title: Prime Peach V1 Beta, How is she performing/What need to be changed? Suggestion!
Post by: namq on May 31, 2010, 07:06:54 PM
This topic has also been set in smashboards, I wanted to forward it here to get more support.
"M.U.G.E.N" <-----> Dream
Main Goal of this Project:
- All characters A-Moves will be replace to change their Metagame. (Working on it, see post#2) - Specific Textures for each character, but them also having Team Textures. (Need Texture makers for this one)
* Textures from post#2. * Them having Team textures, Red, Blue and Green.
- Balance - Hitstun and ShieldStun around the Brawl+ values. - Dash Dancing but in a more tighter window (not like VBrawl) maybe Halve the Brawl+ Dash Dancing window. - Same playable stages, but main stage and/or plattaforms may be Animated. (Not started yet)
And, all this Movesets for now are going to be based to the Brawl+ codeset, so the project Goals are on Hold. Now, making this character match the Brawl scene is what I'm aiming for.
Info of the Movesets will be added to post#3
@ - Why Mugen Brawl? A- Characters are going to be re-animated on the attack actions so they can fight in a different way, but still keep their smash bros. spirit. Mugen is a 2D Classic game that you can create and build at your own will.
Click my signature to Download the Multihit Mario (Beta) Release. Test him vs Brawl+ people and see if he's good, bad, broken and/or need some more work.
As said before, This project will need to match Brawl+ first then it will aim to go to the main Goal.
Please, try to help me on the texture part, I have learned my way with the help of many people to understand about PSA and BrawlBox
Credits to all the people that had help me reach what I've done:
Shanus (Have helped me on some stuff for PSA)
ThatGuyYouMightKnow (Alot of PSA feedback, and also gave feedback on BBox stuff)
Marth175 (Thank you for the great help on PSA)
Phantom Wings (Thanks for the Project Smash Attacks Program!)
Kryal (For the great work on how Brawlbox is working, awosme program!)
Gay Luigi or Girlie Luigi you may call him. He is a joke character of my future project, so he must be a joke to fight with, Still looking for more fitting animations for him
Dsmash - (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5672/dsmash11.th.jpg) (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/dsmash11.jpg/) (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1748/dsmash111.th.jpg) (http://img340.imageshack.us/i/dsmash111.jpg/) (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3631/dsmash22.th.jpg) (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/dsmash22.jpg/) (http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1170/dsmash2.th.jpg) (http://img28.imageshack.us/i/dsmash2.jpg/) (Forgot to get the last hit picture, but you get the idea, it's the same one as the firsts hit, but with bigger hitbox and more knockback)
Dair - (http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3151/dair.th.jpg) (http://img248.imageshack.us/i/dair.jpg/)
Yes, he is keeping he's wonderful aura on all he's actions, he might need to be lighter, he has great killing potential
Zelda
I'm thinking of making her fight like a traditional fighter, with combo strings on ground, and also, she will be able to cancel certain attack into another. now with the pictures.
Uair - (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1411/uair.th.jpg) (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/uair.jpg/)
Dair - (http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3151/dair.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/i/dair.jpg/)
Marcus Phoenix Ganon
I never played Gears of Wars, so maybe some animations don't fit this character, but he won't posses any ganondorf "A" Moves, and I'm going to contruct the Up B soon. Now enjoy the pics.
All characters in this Project will have their Side Dodges moddified to have their LandingLight or LandingHeavy animation, but both lasting 16 frames (landingheavy must be speed up to have 16 frames)
And they will move the characters TransN Bone from 0.1 to 20 (Forward Dodge) and Backward Dodge moving from -0.1 to -20
in frame 15, they will get +/- 0.1/-0.1 momentum added to finish their dash animation, you may call it wavedash, but, it's not the same input, and has more lag than wavedash
This Dashes has inv. at the beggining of the animation. The Inv. Frames last 6 frame son the Backward Dash and 3 Frames for the forward Dash.
:mario:
Mario in this moveset will have useful multihibox attacks to shield preasure and approach. He also can rack up damage fast enough, but he lacks of killing power. He's most powerful moves won't kill until near 100%-130% and they are Dsmash (kills earlier if charged) and Fthrow Special (this one can kill jigglypuff around 105%) Heavy foes will stay alive longer with this one so use it wisely)
Mario has a Special Throw, use the Fthrow and hold B button and it will give it more KB, and an explosion that could be use handy in 2v2 Matches. This specials leaves mario Shield Braked
New Added to Jab
Jab1 has no hitbox, but it's the start of jab 2, mario will move backwards while doing jab 1 and jab1 last 7 frames so you can do it to move a lil bit backwards if you like. Jab2 now moves forward while hitting opponents and will get 10% more knockback growth. If you hold A During Jab2 it will execute once again, if after you holded it to you are still holding it, it won't do it again, it will just end.
:peach:
I took away how she was using Frying Pan and Tenis racket in the Fsmash, now she only uses the golf club.
She weighted 90, now she is the lightest in the cast, she weights 50 now.
Jabs has hitboxes only on the tip of the club, can still hit close foes, and first jab has many many uses in high% damage of the foe.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on May 31, 2010, 07:20:30 PM
Does not belong here. Post in the right place.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: namq on May 31, 2010, 07:30:47 PM
I'm making PSA of all the cast, I'm going to put the files as the time passes
and if it doesn't belong here, where can I publish it?
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on May 31, 2010, 07:35:10 PM
If you have progress on something to share and get help on, then this is where it belongs.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: namq on May 31, 2010, 07:46:47 PM
want me to publish the pics in here too?
I posted them in Smashboards, but, I put in here in the OP a forward to the post#2 that has the animations I have already done, and, I already published the Multihit Mario (Beta) on my brawlVault, click on my sig and check him out.
They have no side dodge rolls, but instead, they have Backward dash and forward dash (looks like a wavedash and also works like one, but you can't slide of edges, and this wavedash lasts 16 frames, while melee wavedash lasts 10)
The progress is been increase fast
now I'm working on a kirby moveset, I want to publish the movesets that already have an Up-B change so they can go to the beta Phase, but without a new recovery move, I'm not feeling like they are rdy to go beta
I'm trying to figure out, how to change the specials tab, so I can make some stuff like this, On the specials tabs I want to do the following:
Change how the original specials work.
If the special use more than one sub action, make it use less or just one sub action.
If the special uses one sub action, make it use more.
If the special has a set loop to a sub action, change how it works, so I can change the animations without it freezing the character, or even freeze the game.
How to make characters that can't charge specials be able to charge, and change how they work
I hope I explained myself clearly (I speak spanish I'm trying my best here)
if I get feedback on this, then beta's for the lucario, peach, ganon, zelda and luigi will be released quickly
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: songeflemy on May 31, 2010, 07:57:16 PM
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on May 31, 2010, 09:17:27 PM
Marcus Phoenix doesn't fit anything.....you took a guy that uses guns, bombs, exploding arrows, chainsaw and knives and made him be something completely different. Basic Snake fits Marcus better.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: DivineOverlord on June 01, 2010, 01:53:39 AM
This sounds interesting, looking forward to its completion. ;)
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: namq on June 01, 2010, 08:28:10 AM
Marcus Phoenix doesn't fit anything.....you took a guy that uses guns, bombs, exploding arrows, chainsaw and knives and made him be something completely different. Basic Snake fits Marcus better.
lulz, I'll change what he look like by taking another texture XD, and that would fix this problem
I know nothing about gears of wars, I just saw the texture and began making the moveset while seen how he looked in brawlbox
Thanks for letting me know that he doesn't fit
now I'm working on kirby moveset
gonna use tons of he's kirby hat moves that fits in, but some with different GFX
will be finished before this friday
Edit:
Ganon new texture, as Marcus Phoenix don't fit he's moveset. King Bradley! http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=6283&Moderated=All
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on June 01, 2010, 08:37:40 AM
King Bradley only uses swords. Two of them. And is a hell of a lot faster than Marth.
You may want to ask the person who made the texture about a moveset for them.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: namq on June 01, 2010, 09:59:24 AM
Well I have no clue then of what texture to use.
Well, anyone link me to a capeless ganondorf that fit that moveset, for now, I'm leaving him like that, anyone that helps will get credits, and probably a release of the beta earlier than the rest.
I only made him one sword attack, but if you want, I can make a electric sword moveset for him, as, I don't know how to port swords to characters
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on June 01, 2010, 10:00:45 AM
You moveset doesn't have anything to do with any character really. The texture wouldn't matter for anything.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: DrKoala on June 01, 2010, 12:15:58 PM
Ganon new texture, as Marcus Phoenix don't fit he's moveset. King Bradley! [url]http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=6283&Moderated=All[/url]
Sorry, but no.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: DMN666 on June 01, 2010, 12:29:41 PM
MUGEN sucks *Runs away giggling*
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: blackscorpio on June 01, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
no it doesn't dude, not trying to be mean here DMN666.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: namq on June 01, 2010, 05:37:49 PM
That would fix this problem, but, I don't want ganon to be ganon, want him to look different
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Marcus Phoenix Ganon pics! Looking for Texture Makers!
Post by: dingo on June 01, 2010, 06:30:52 PM
You should make a texture request. Anything seems fine.
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Ganon moveset pics!
Post by: namq on June 02, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
a friend of mine is now helping me do movesets and psa's for everyone! (He is working on squirtle)
now I'm working on kirby which I'm mad at him cause I'm pickie for animations, and he is not good when I want him to look perfect :D
he is based on he's copy abilities, but, don't get here and tell me to also make he's hats viewable, cause, to my capacity that is not easy
but, the movesrt will be balance and won't be broken in the final version
he will be based to fit the brawl+ scene, but hey, even if you want to try him on vanilla brawl he will still do great, being balance might make metaknight (Vbrawl) laugh since he will rape all XD "metaknight da besssssss"
lol
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Ganon moveset pics!
Post by: namq on June 04, 2010, 10:22:15 PM
:oshi:
I have delayed the kirby Moveset, since I want to release him as a Beta but with new Up B ground and New Up B air, Neat new Side B's and Neutral B
Jab1 goes instanly to jab2 Multihit Start is the first 11 frames of the Dash attack Multihit attack is now frame 12-19 of the dash attack (loop looks like chunli's Sppining bird kick ;) Multihit end is now the last frames of the dash attack Dash Attack is Jigglypuff's Ftilt (all angles) Jigglypuff's Dtilt is now the Start Up of Bowser's Flame, in frame 20 he shoots a flamming hit, but the animation is x.5 to not make it spammy (doesn't loop and it's not imed to do so) Utilt, is now PK Freeze Blast Fsmash, DK's Neutral B Dsmash, the side B nintendo took from kirby but left on the MotionEtc, the Dsmash Hold is now waling kirby with hammer Usmash, PK Flash Nair is now Nayrus love (not same GFX) Fair is now Peach Neutral B hit (not same GFX) Uair is now Pit's Neutral B Upward arrow throw (you can angle it as is a GFX projectile with the same damage and KB of pits arrows) Dair is now Ike's Erruption none chargeable and has same power as an uncharge Eruption (not same GFX) Bair is now wario's Bite End, KB was change due to the move being too strong, and it was slow down a bit. Side B is now Iceclimbers animation, not a projectile is show but a small IcyDust is swung along with the hammer swing, in the air, it give a small Upward boost when you are falling, doesn't add momentum to your jump Neutral B is now Falcon Pawwwwwnch (the SFX didn't showed, C.Falcon is needed to it to play apparently or the kirby hat Up B ground, Bullet Seed of Ivysaur, but with green lazzoooooors Up B air, Water Gun animations, the start, 2 loops fastened both x2, and the 4th being the Strong watergun (he is aming Downwards both going Upward and Backwards) Super Armor from frame 5-15, great KB on this one, start up is just not helpful at all
Thats all I got for you about what I've done
I'm still tunning up him a bit, trying not to go above the filesize limit, and, the specials are still on the works, the PSA part and BBox part is done, I'm working on making the specials tab run like they need, as the animations are not showing for the specials that has multiple sub actions
idk when he will be released, he's going to keep he's Down B, stone isn't used alot, or never used, but, I might make a nerf for it, and thus, making it more usefull
atm, thats all for now
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Ganon moveset pics!
Post by: namq on June 11, 2010, 08:46:44 AM
Peach video!
go see the OP :D
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: namq on June 15, 2010, 11:51:37 PM
Sorry for bumping my own thread
But peach release is almost near!!!
Watch the Specials video in the OP!!! ;)
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on June 16, 2010, 12:02:41 AM
Sweet! Good to hear man! :3
*goes to watch the specials*
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: namq on June 17, 2010, 08:12:09 PM
the only thing stopping me now from releasing her as Beta is not having a green skirtless texture
this moveset cannot be used in a textureless peach with a skirt
the skirt is not animated for any of the moves that doesn't belong to peach, the legs will go out of the dress and the dress won't be animated at all
if you can help me get a texture and the owner, I'll be glad to release the beta right after I see the green texture
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on June 17, 2010, 11:54:20 PM
I don't see any problem with her legs going through the dress. The same thing happens for the Athena moveset. I don't even notice it though as I'm too busy playing. XD
It doesn't have to be green either. Just release the moveset. :3
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: namq on June 18, 2010, 04:37:13 PM
I don't see any problem with her legs going through the dress. The same thing happens for the Athena moveset. I don't even notice it though as I'm too busy playing. XD
It doesn't have to be green either. Just release the moveset. :3
as requested, I will release her beta at near 9pm (American Hour)
it's 6:38pm right now, so, she will be released and added to the Op at 9pm
I will test her one last time and fight vs my top tier CPU on my wii... idk why but cpu DDD is the best cpu on my wii XD
that don't matter but, will test vs DDD if he gives me trouble, then she is not broken, if I 4 stock him them in the future I will balance her, I wanted to give her a final smash, as I gonna add this to all my movesets
I'm a street fighter player and also play mugen, and I do like super's but also, not a broken super.
I will give this ability to all the characters:
Power Bar will not be visible but the characters will have a Blue color reflection on their textures when they reach 1/2 power bar.
To fill the power bar, they need to get hit or hit with an attack.
I will also add specific +1 or +2 or even +3 depending on how they performed.
if they get hit they will always get a power point, when they reach 200, then they can launch the final smash, that will not be the one from the game, but this can be implemented to the official release of them.
Also wave, what do you think if you want me to continue the Joke Character next? Gay Luigi is a lil OP on combo's and power, but he is a funny character to fight with :P
let me know if you want me to release him next
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: Kaye Cruiser on June 18, 2010, 05:32:44 PM
Go for it buddy. It'll definitely make for a few good laughs. It'll be like having Dan Hibiki in Brawl, only actually worth paying attention to XD
Title: Re: M.U.G.E.N Brawl Edition! Peach first PSA Video!
Post by: namq on June 18, 2010, 07:14:35 PM