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#1
Here is how I see the argument for the leaked stuff being posted in accordance with it being a supposed community benefit. I see it as a rather short sighted approach.

Even if you view the matter objectively and not as a PM issue you have the fact that their is really two groups this site serves. The artists and the consumers. If you do put the content up it is true consumers will have new content easily accessible but consider the future repercussions. By valuing the consumer over the artist you are not really supporting the artists who contribute to the site. If artists are not supported why should they feel compelled to produce more content for the public, it is not like they have to release their work in the first place. In short by putting the consumer ahead in the exact instant of such scenarios you actually hurt future consumers by burning the content producers who very well might not produce in the future. Brawl Vault is no different than any other business model, you have to keep your producers happy otherwise you end up with no product to distribute.
#2
I deleted my posts and I apologize for getting heated but I am seriously upsetted by what I see as the disrespect being allotted to members of the PMDT, I let my feelings get out of hand as this is an emotion charged chat but nevertheless I remain absolute in the fact that the suggested policy is wrong.
#3
Being a person who has followed Project M for years and even now would love for them to release their models for public use, I still cannot agree with the policy suggested here or by the sounds of it already implemented.

Many of the artists here are the individuals responsible for my urge to learn brawl modding and the reason for my first submission on the Vault. The submission was a simple texture edit, work done from the Project M teams models and inspired by AlGeorgeRomo. The model I was working on however while made by the PMDT was unlike the leaked content expressed as free for individuals to make such edits with proper crediting, heck I even ran my ideas for the recolours past Nano himself.

This is quite a different scenario than what is suggested here which is literally just taking their work, screw the morality. Sure you can use the debate of bringing it all back to Nintendo but what I find most disappointing is that through the years I have seen brawl modding as an often tight knit community of fans supporting their favourite artists and artists collaborating together to create new things and at the centre of this the pillars of the community, the PMDT. How quickly we are willing to throw down our pillars.

Honestly I don't blame the PMDT for not releasing their work, obviously something went down we don't fully understand but also the word ENTITLEMENT comes to mind. The fact that we view ourselves as ENTITLED to their work is absurd, it is their work, sure we may want it, we may even have underhanded ways of getting it, but it is still theirs to give!

If someone told me to take down an edit I made I would take it down but if I knew someone would not want an edit of their work on the vault in the first place I would not put it up in the first place hoping they wouldn't notice or request it taken down. Deep down you all must know this is wrong... If not I am disappointed in the people I thought this community was rooted in...