I guess so.
I never played 2006. I was just searching quickly for a video with its music.

Actually that was the stage clear music. Mission Clear has another theme. I know this from Let's Plays.

Well will you be done by july? July us when i'de like to have the model done. I want to finish two projects by the end of summer at the least. But I won't be selfish about it. Thanks for even offering to help. Mnph! Auughh!

What kind of gamma hack are you making? A model, with a psa?

So u dnt need help..

Sorry but I don't think that 06 Sonic will be finished by July. The model might be but the PSA won't be. Gamma is over Samus but needs some custom Animation due to him being bigger and longer than her.

...huh... that's the last time I'm going with thinking that the song Shock44 has for his victory was the real one. I should also get back to playing Brawl some more maybe.

Listen to the 06 victory theme.

Now listen to the Brawl one.

EXACTLY the same.

*insert Lex Luthor "WROOOONG!!!" here*

The Brawl Victory song for Sonic is mostly composed with trumpets while the 06 victory song is composed with violins and other string instruments I guess.

Oh and as for you Element I think the other hacks after 06 Sonic will be easier till I hit Gamma and the Stage. I just have to fix Venice and Vectorman V.2 will be easy to make.

A lot of movesets are stupid like that where things appear out of nowhere. Ie 'billy buts a bomb behing him and it explodes, hurting the foe' where did the bomb come from? Yeah. But anyways are you making a stage after this?

I'm releasing Hidden Palace from Sonic 2 Beta once it's tested and works and after 06 Sonic I'm going to finish off my other hacks before I aim towards The Great Mighty Poo Stage and Gamma.

The transformation is him getting a kiss, right? I wish I could make a transformation for my character as well. I guess I'll do that for my new hack (when I'm finished working on my current one). Do you think having so many new B moves will make this sonic different from the normal one? And how will th spindash change, will it have more of an impact (multihit?) Or what?

 ...uh... Why would Elise randomly appear and kiss him? Also the B moves will be diffirent and I'm thinking of having the Spindash less Sonic CDish.

Just a new transformation animation and a new stance. I guess new Transform back as well.

The final smash is the same as normal sonic???

It's the same but with some animation edits.

Hey man, I just uploaded the result screen bmusic from 06 for over Sonic's victory theme; It might be helpfull for your project 06. http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=26922&Vault=audio

It sounds good but I think the 06 Victory theme would fit better.

*bangs head in desk*Can we PLEASE stop discussing which games are bad on this thread?!

I'm sorry but I just want this to focus on 06 Sonic alone!

Here's my opinion on the other games. When I've said them we'll STOP discussing it!

Sonic R: A nice racing game and actually a race game I could come back to when I have nothing to do.

Sonic and the Black Knight: Thought it was great but I'm alone by that in my family. With Me is by far my favorite theme in the game and the final boss was AWESOME!

Sonic 3D Blast. Hate this game hate this game hate this game hate this game.

Sonic Labyrinth: ...Give me my speed shoes back...


As for 06 Shadow PSA... Find someone else.

and as for Tails Doll... *goes to release it quickly*

Ok I'm just going to do a Q&A right now so I don't have to answer these question in the future.

Q: Why are you making a full hack of a game you never played?
A: 1: I DID play it a bit when my brother had it but due to me not liking to look around I was good on the Silver stages but sucked on Sonic's first stage. 2: I want to do something original that no one has done before.

Q: How do you know all the powerups if you haven't played the game?
A: Youtube.

Q: What's your opinion on Sonic 06?
A: Need to play more of it.

Q: Why don't you just buy a copy?
A: Swedish PAL Xbox 360 Sonic 06 copies = Hidden somewhere with the Lost Ark.

Q: Why don't you just buy the PS3 version?
A: Don't have a PS3 and I want achievements.

Q: Can I make recolors?
A: When it's released yes.

Q: How's the hack coming along?
A: Pretty good. Almost done with the emotions.

Q: Why do you need an Elise model? (refering to another topic I made)
A: I want to make Win2 into the Winning animation he does when he's holding Elise.

Q: Do you have someone to make PSA?
A: My friend K-Canon and I made a deal and he's making them while I learn.

Q: How did the textures look like from the start?
A: The model is on Models-resource.com

Q: Why is Super Sonic very Yellow?
A: I'm going to make him light goldish cause he's based off the CGI cutscene model.

Q: Why do you say Labyrinth and 3D Blast is worse than 06 if you haven't played it?
A: From what I see in Let's Plays I find 06 not that bad looking. Labyrinth is a failure on the first 5 seconds of gameplay cause you're too slow and the idea sucks and 3D Blast... I must admit I played a hack with no flickies needed but even that hack was HORRIBLE and didn't make the game better at all cause I was STILL jumping on enemies and passing by Flickies. Also Sonic is slow in this game as well.

Q: Will this have custom animations?
A: Indeed it will.

Q: Want help with the animations?
A: I was thinking of doing them all myself but if I need help I'll probably ask for it.

Q: What project will you do after 06 Sonic?
A: one of the Planned ones in my Signature. The WIP ones are being worked on at the same time.

Q: What is the current moveset idea?
A: Glad you asked Q.


My idea for the 06 PSA:

dash A: Antigravity Kick

down A: Sweep kick (which I think he already has)

Forward air A: Homing Attack

Down air A: Bounce attack

Netrual B: Green Gem (Does the spiral kick and a green tornado appears around him which knocks opponents upwards)

Air B: White Gem (pretty much the normal Brawl Sonic move except you choose where Sonic should aim)

Side B: Sky Gem (throws the projectile forward and them dash towards it. Go over a ledge and you must get back up)

Air Side B: Sky Gem (this time he throws it diagonal down)

Down B: Spindash

Air Down B: Yellow Gem (a Block move and if anyone touches him they get electricuted)

Up B: Purple Gem (Goes tiny and jumps up high. Pretty much nothing to change here besides the spring)

Up air B: Purple Gem (same here)



Be sure to check back for more info sometime soon!

There. If I get any message close to these questions I will ignore them since I've already answered.

Why do you want to make a character off of a game that you hate so much?

I NEVER said I hated Sonic 06. I don't have an opinion on it yet and I said that almost everyone hates it. That doesn't include me. I actually like the graphics even. That part in the beginning was more of a little joke.

Speed gem
Shrink gem
tornado gem
warp gem
slow time gem
magnet gem i think?
err.. dont remember the other gem. was it double jump? What were they?

Blue = Speed
Purple = Shrink + Infinite Jump
Green = Tornado
Sky = Fly like a mother ****er
Red = Stop time
White = Homing Attack V.2
Yellow = Electrical Shield

I think that's all of them (been watching Supergamingbros alot)

No offense but what's so good about Sdoom? I guess I should check out his hacks..I mean look at them. What was so bad about sonic 06? And the black night? And what will the 06 moveset look like?

I'm still thinking about it but so far I can say that all the Gems, Bounce Bracelet and Anti Gravity thingy will be in the move.

have you used Sdoom's Viewtiful Joe? Its PERFECT. Just needs voices. And I think he also made Shadow over dk which I use. Just wish he had faster run start up. Might be his Cloud that I use as well. He is a BOSS. When I say i wanna psa, he is what Im trying to achieve.

And what WASNT bad about 06? but lets not use this thread for a debate. Just message me.

Sorry Blase.

I don't have to message you cause I haven't said anything about 06 yet besides that almost everyone hates it. I have to find one of the hidden PAL Xbox 360 copies before I can play it.

Also I don't have any progress pictures are the moment but I can say that I've added all the faces, Eyelids, Mouths and FS eyes. Only thing to do is to fix 1 face so it's centered perfectly and make the FS eyes visible. When that's done I will rig the hands and finally Super Sonic. Then you can except a limited edition of Alpha 2 coming out!

06 is worse than both.  Anyway model's not too bad but it really needs a new texture.  Current one is fugly.

1: It's cool how my Brawl Hack Idol just commented on my Topic.
2: If you think those 2 games aren't as bad as 06 then I kinda want to know your opinion but at the same time this topic isn't about opinions
3: The textures I got with the model didn't look a THING like 06 Sonic which these do. If you have problem with the textures then you are free to edit them when the full hack is released.