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46  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 15, 2011, 04:54:42 PM
Everyone's brawl vault sig is a X  box and when i click it, it takes me to a different site? I'm guessing you removed it?

Yes. But, that different site thing is weird --- I can only get it to happen with your sig.

EDIT: Seems you mislinked kc-mm as kcmm in your sig. I fixed it.
47  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 15, 2011, 11:45:40 AM
That's an interesting idea actually.

It is, but....

it has been down for the past few hours without considerable effect. Right now I'm waiting on Dantarion's response --- I'm pretty sure others have also noticed that when the forum is sluggish... that the blog (aside from posting) seems to work fine.
48  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Brawl Vault Organization on: October 15, 2011, 08:16:22 AM
I'm not interested in such a sweeping undertaking --- but I know it must be done --- just not by me (no time).

I need someone who knows HTML help out. (PHP and SQL is a plus, but I've designed the vault to be mostly dynamic...)

Each new category of hack requires the following:
-New option in the submission page (mostly HTML, some PHP for editing)
-New option in the search page (just HTML)
-New menus (Image work / html, I actually used an online image map generator to help out with the current one's html)
49  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 15, 2011, 08:07:58 AM
no body listens to the ex-gm anymore ¬.¬''

Here's my Pro info though: The Forum itself is nothing but a hand full of text. All the images (except a select few like Badges) are not hosted on our forum. All the bandwidth from loading a forum page will cause is about 2mb at least for just handling the entire page's data of reading MySQL and forming the page. This Error 500/503 is highly possible caused by the vault's generator and it's handling of the data streams. Also since I know about DDoS attacks, this was actually an attempt to do so.

I fully believe ya. Tongue (One of the people making the most sense right now)

I can disable / minimize the sig generator for a bit if you think it would help a lot.

The idea of an attack on us makes me sick... haven't had this issue since DSmeet....
50  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
I got a 503 try to come here. I also got the following errors upon posting this:
696
123
404
505
Internal 505
Internal 500
500
777
666
999
These were all one after another. Is this a bad sign?

You're going to hell, then upside-down hell.

But the good news is you'll be rich before that.
51  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 07:54:06 PM
No. Cheesy

But I'll say it anyway. Just went through and cleaned up all the database tables. (Essentially defragging)
52  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 07:17:16 PM
I would just like to throw in some more perspective.

We have had

10,460

downloads since yesterday. That is ~7 downloads a minute. While that doesn't seem like much... to make that download happen... a Brawl Vault page had to be loaded. Each Brawl Vault page makes 3 connections: 1) user info, vault info, statistic info... ~24 connections a minutes. But, this is assuming that the person is only looking at 1 page per download.
53  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 06:49:22 PM
I've already implemented 2 changes which has dropped the occurrence rate a little... and yet people are still whining and even upping the ante.

Even if we do the ad idea... we still have to 1) get Dantarion to upgrade the services and 2) Wait ~a month until we get our first paycheck. No instant fix is going to help too much.

I don't know how anyone still disbelieves me that the games forum is a drop in the bucket... With 100+ GUESTS, they easily overshadow the game forum goers...
54  Welcome / Rules / Feedback / Brawl Vault / Re: Brawl Vault Problems, Updates, and Suggestions on: October 14, 2011, 06:46:59 PM
So the stats are gone?  That's cool, I guess.  Too bad I can't use the report manager anymore though.  It made finding and fixing reports sooooooooo much easier.

Yeah, sorry about that. The report manager can stall the forum from just 1 person using it.
55  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 06:27:06 PM
I wonder if the other admin would let me make a wager...

If we hide the forum for a bit and it doesn't make a significant difference... we ban everyone who has complained?
56  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 05:29:31 PM
And it's stupid to me how when admins reply with a meaningful reply on why it wouldn't help (number of queries performed) it's ignored and instead the staff (Miacis especially) is bashed.

I've made a change as suggested by Miacis; things are running a bit smoother right now. No?

If not, give us time; we are still awaiting on Dantarion and... at worst will place an ad somewhere on brawlvault.
57  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 03:26:57 PM
I've never had a problem loading the BrawlVault. I've only received errors when using the forum. But it doesn't matter what we suggest. We're just lowly peasants with inferior intellect. We aren't worthy! Guess I should just get off your forum then.  Roll Eyes

Frankly, if you really think that way... yes. If you aren't knowledgeable enough to fix my code, you aren't knowledgeable enough to fix the site and shouldn't harass the people who might be able to.

But, I'm not saying your opinions don't matter... I even said the exact opposite in my post. I just don't want a stupid flame war to start up from people who don't actually know how to fix things...
58  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 03:19:33 PM
Considering you have absolutely no idea of server costs, of how much and how we can pay new stuff, didn't witness how much of a pain in the ass it was when we changed servers, and all that crap ... sorry, but I'll wait until I get the opinion from our server hosts to make any move.

Neither you nor I know enough about that to take a sensible decision or emit a valuable judgement on what to do.

This is the best way it can be put.

Marcov, Vyse, and I tried our hardest to ensure the community survived the BROKEN proboard forums, the REJECTION of free hosts, and the SHAMEFUL TAKEOVER PROSPECT. There are a lot of factors to consider here and... maybe our issue will just die out? I was fully expecting the surge of users to drop down thanks to school --- as it has every other year.

I will say this though... if there is a move, I will not be going. It has been a long time since I have been to this forum for pleasure; I have seen the worst aspects of both community and staff and have no motivation whatsoever to put my own time, effort, and worry into starting fresh once again.

So to sum it up....   Role players, keep on keeping on!

Brawl hackers? go somewhere else =|


makes sense.

Miacis has tried to be kind, sure he slipped up a bit with the stupid comment but...

If we did test your theory and it turned out NOT to be the issue; us staff will have taken on the backlash of many members (which... we have already, multiple times). That section of the forum has been a major headache for many reasons... but I do not believe removing it will fix the solution.

So, if all you are going to do is insult Miacis and throw around accusations that he is biased in favor of the role players... GET OFF MY FORUM.
59  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 02:32:35 PM
And Picano, I can understand the hassle with Brawlvault, that to me seems like the only real thing "keeping" KCMM here. The topics, posts, awards, etc? Oh baww, cry me a river. People can start over, it's like moving out of a neighborhood to a new city.

We've done so once and it was a massive inconvenience to everyone. It took a while to build back up. (Not to mention issues with people stealing names and such...)

Perhaps we're integrating a little to much into the forums though. The awards system is a possible good example. They have one on Minus world and it's not causing problems, but they're not as large of a community.

That is a possibility.

Also, just a thought, but perhaps it's Brawlvault's deep integration into these forums that's causing the issue as well? Again, if we split the forums off of Brawlvault, we would most likely cut the traffic on the server in half, which would be diverted to the proboards server.

We... can't. Splitting the forum from Brawl Vault is a MASSIVE undertaking as it was hard coded into the forum itself. I've been asking for someone to help / take over coding for AGES. No one has / has been able to rise to that call.

And Miacis, how do you know this? Some people just come here FOR the forum games. Not gonna lie, when I'm on my breaks from hacking, it's the only thing that's kept me here until i decide to come back to hacking. You assume way too much.

And how do you know that it is? Casting blame without any sort of evidence is a shameful practice. Yes, that games for has tons of posts / activity. Is it a major source of trouble? Doubtful. The main strains on this server are: Wordpress (it's optimization is worse than Brawl Vautls!) and Brawl Vault (I had never dreamed it would be this popular)

Loading / posting the the forum page take at most 2 queries. 1 to load / post the forum data and 1 to load the user data for permissions.

Wordpress on the other hand... 1 to load content, 1 to load user data, 1 to load theme data, and 1 for each mod.

Brawl Vault... 1 to load user data (forum), 1 to load page data, 1 to load basic statistics, 5 to load statistics page.

Not to mention a couple queries for each download call... Brawl Vault sig...
60  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Error 500 (bandwidth issues), users moving to other forums on: October 14, 2011, 01:38:33 PM
Moving forums (again) would mean abandoning (again) everything we have.
-Topics
-Posts
-Usernames
-Awards

Also, Brawl Vault is heavily integrated into the forum. It could be a stand alone entity (using this forum's login features)... but that is also a hassle.

I have said for a long time that Brawl Vault was resource intensive and that it needs to be optimized. But, as the sole programmer... I have no time to make such an extensive fix.

Also, some features are naturally resource intensive... such as all the safety measures I've had to implement due to people whining about download count abuse and the like.

I'm sure that in the short run I can disable many features (download count / abuse prevention, action logging, sig generator, statistics page) to speed things up... but I really just need someone who can code something better than the vault.

Anyway... when did the issues start getting really bad anyway? We've had tons of people at other times with a bit less issue... maybe some recent change to the forum itself screwed things up?
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