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76  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Metal Gear Solid Needs More Hack Representation! on: August 23, 2010, 04:19:42 PM
Great job on the new box textures, Terminator. I'll definitely be using those. Smiley

BTW, I had another idea for making Snake's box taunt better: In addition to being able to move around while in the box, what if you could drop C4, grenades, land mines, or a dirty magazine (IF it's implemented) while you're under there? It might be a good way to place some C4 discreetly, at the least... Just make sure that placing such items does not make any noise while Snake is under the box. Wink

I'm really hoping some of these taunt ideas will get realized soon!
77  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Metal Gear Solid Needs More Hack Representation! on: August 22, 2010, 08:36:44 PM
Nice ideas there, though I liked the porno book idea as an item...
Snake could lay it down and throw it at opponents and cause damage...


Well, it could work, as long as the book itself is censored (more on that in a bit). I think Snake already has enough items he can drop and throw, though... Grenades, C4, land mines, boxes. Besides, I'm guessing it would be harder to hack an new item into the game.

If the dirty magazine is implemented, though, two ideas:
- Opponents could slip on the magazine, like a banana (there's no "distracted" state, so...)
- Snake would only be able to spawn one magazine at a time (since he has so many other items)

What do you mean by smoking a cigaratte would be a bad image? You mean it would be bad for smaller kids? What about the nude ZSS texture hack?
Snake gave up smoking in MGS4, at the end where he knew he was going to die...
So you can say Snake gave up smoking a few months before he died.


I'm against (or, less in favor of, at least) the Smoking and Dirty Magazine taunts because I doubt they would be featured in an official release of one of the big mods like Brawl+ or Brawl-, and because they are "bad" images, even though they do suit Snake (like nude ZSS, they're, er, controversial). They also just don't seem as "taunty" as the other ideas mentioned so far, and they're more complicated to boot. Snake already has a complicated taunt - his box - so I think his other two taunts should be quick and simple. My suggestion is:

Up taunt: Box (keep the "up" version since it's the fastest.)
Side taunt: Salute (facing whichever direction Snake is facing, like Falcon's "Come on!")
Down taunt: "!" Alert (the "!" appears overhead and SFX plays... But what stance would Snake take?)

(The "!" taunt seems like it would be the up taunt at first, but I figure we should keep the fastest box taunt. :/)

If someone want to try making the Smoking and Dirty Magazine taunts, go ahead, but I hope the other taunts are made first - those are the ones I want to use! Smiley

The "!" is funny, but it would be cooler if they added a MGS3 Guard or a Genome Soldier from MGS:TTS. Still good idea, though.

Thanks, and I agree about adding the guard or soldier. I'm just wondering what kind of stance would accompany the "!" taunt... Hunched shoulders, perhaps?

I was thinking somthing cooler about the Box taunt. Not only would Snake get inside it, but you could walk around IN the box like in MGS series, and stay inside forever unless you pressed the A button or another attack button.
It's worth a shot.


I love that idea. That would easily make the box Snake's greatest taunt!

It's like they put Snake in the game, but shied away from actually putting "Metal Gear Solid" in the game since it's an M-rated series, and well, it's also weird as hell and clashes pretty distinctly with the aesthetic of things like Kirby.

That's pretty much exactly what they did... But hey, at least we got Snake! We can add in the rest now. Smiley
78  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / General Hacking Discussion / Re: Metal Gear Solid Needs More Hack Representation! on: August 21, 2010, 09:55:57 PM
I made my account here just so I could say how much I agree with giving Snake new taunts, if possible. One taunt you guys haven't mentioned yet is the "!" alert pose he does when he's spotted in the Metal Gear games.

Out of the taunt ideas mentioned so far, I like them all except "Call on Codec or porn book". The codec call already exists as a hidden taunt, and dropping a porn magazine as an item doesn't sound feasible... or even taunt-like, IMO.

I'd say keep the fastest box taunt, and replace the other two taunts with the "!" alert reaction and sound, and a salute. Snake lighting a smoke would fit somewhat, but... Having Snake smoking as a taunt would be a bad image, plus I doubt he'd toss a cig after only a few seconds anyway. Besides, didn't Snake give up smoking at some point?
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