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46  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 29, 2011, 07:45:56 PM


i clicked set weights...his head is sposda b red right?
47  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 29, 2011, 06:15:13 PM
Question while I clean up:

Is it possible to use an existing Mdl0 like say the Holy water bottle to have the bone structure of another .mdl0 like Toon Link's arrow?



Bone Rigging. Look at my quote from Justin712 for a tut.

I think he'll include model merging in the next modset.

Sweet. Sure hope so! lol

hotemilonveriusaction

...So many bugs seem to be popping up so quickly.

rofl.

Emil: C'mon Verius, giddyup!
Verius:*sigh* Emil, I told you I'd be waiting for your decision, but this isn't exactly what I had in mind......Im srs here

The exact same way

Mario Facepalm im a retard, i meant 8, not 10 I assume thats still the same answer
48  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 29, 2011, 06:00:03 PM
Alright, sorry if this is a bit off-topic at this point, but the tutorial's done. Here's a couple of my personal tips for rigging a character. Again, if you need to get a better view of anything just copy the image location and paste it in your browser or right click the image and click "view image".

For starters, I already expect you to have a skeleton built. It's pretty easy to make one, it's just a matter of finding the bone tool in your modeling program. If you're using an existing one you imported from a brawl character, simply resize each bone until they match the proportions of your character. At the start, you should have something like this:
Next, you're going to select your character and add the skin modifier to it. If your character is made up of separate objects, add the skin modifier to each of the objects. Remember, once you rig your character you can no longer edit the mesh. Doing so will cause all of your bone influences to be set to 0 in most cases, meaning all of your work will be reset. (Heck, even once during this tutorial I did this by accident and ended up having to redo an arm. This is why you should SAVE OFTEN!) Next, you're going to go into your skin modifier and add every single bone in the scene to the list, so that every bone influences your mesh. If you try to move the skeleton at this point, you will notice that it may work relatively well, but there might be some vertices left behind, strange deformations (especially in the arms and legs), or bones affecting vertices they aren't supposed to. This is where the main bulk of the work comes from - weighting the mesh. The first thing you're going to want to do is shift your focus to one area of the model at a time. I started with the head.
Here we see that there's some vertex stretching on the back of the head. To fix this, we have to make sure that these vertices are 100% weighted to the head bone. This will not always be the case, as you will see for the arms, which has varying influences throughout. For now let's fix the head.
With the Envelope subtab selected under the Skin modifier, you will notice a box labeled Select at the right of the screen. Check the "Vertices" box, as seen at the right side of the picture above. This will allow you to select the vertices of the mesh individually, so that you can begin weighting them. You'll probably always want to have this box checked. Next, select the problem vertices. Now open up the weight tool by clicking the wrench, as indicated in this picture:
Since these vertices are only supposed to be affected by the head bone, we select the head bone (or in my case Bone04) in the list at the side and we click the square labeled "1" to set the weight to it's maximum of "1.0". (Notice those 2 pairs of "+" and "-" buttons? The top pair is going to be your most useful tool for tweaking the influence of the bones, specifically for the limbs.)
Now that we've done that, no matter how much the other bones move, these vertices will not be affected by anything but the movement of our head bone. That was easy!  Wink The real challenge comes from tweaking the other bones (mainly the spine and the limbs) to deform naturally. Now that you know the basics of what it is we're doin', next I'm going to show you the basics of weighting an elbow, as well as show you some problems to look out for during the process.
First off, bend the arm at the elbow.
Notice how the arm's width on my model is smaller now that I bent the elbow? This deformation is exactly what we need to fix if we want natural looking animations. Remember that pair of "+" and "-" buttons I talked about? Well these are going to be crucial for making this elbow bend correctly. (It probably would have been better if I made a video for this part, but I'll try to keep this moving along as best as I can.) As a general rule, the vertices the elbow will be bending at are going to be weighted heavily to the upper arm bone so that they do not move with the forearm bone. Depending on your character's proportions, this might cause some clipping, but this can either be completely fixed through some tweaking or at the very least it'll look a lot better than the arm caving in on itself. The vertices on the opposite side of "the bending edge" are the ones that will receive a mixed influence of the two bones so that the width is maintained. (In other words, the vertices towards the back of the elbow will be split between the two bones, while the vertices towards the front of the elbow will move as little as possible by being attached to the forearm only.) It's not as hard as you might think, but it does take a lot of patience, and you do sort of have to eyeball it. Here's what you're aiming for:
Again, those vertices towards the right of the screen are the ones that have close to 0.5 influence for the two bones, but the influence of the forearm gradients out as it gets towards the vertices at the bend.

You should see very little change in size as you bend the elbow back and forth. The legs are generally the same, but since they are usually close together, one leg's bones may affect the other leg as well. To fix this, you simply have to set the influence of the opposing leg to 0 for each.
(That'll probably make a lot more sense when you see it happen Laugh)

The spine is generally very straight forward, and I doubt you'll have much trouble with it, as compared to the limbs. When you think you are finished, it is important to drag the root bone (or the bone that has influence over everything, usually located near the pelvis) pretty far in one direction to make sure there are no vertices that are not assigned to a bone.

Finally, it's important that you put your character in a lot of extreme poses to see where the rig doesn't hold up. Since you're reading this you're probably the rigger as well as the animator, and it's important you know that your animations will not be as fluid as you want if you're always having to animate around the problems with your rig. If you're importing your character over an existing brawl fighter then this is especially true since the characters have already been animated without the weaknesses of your rig being considered, so be patient and be thorough.

Good luck!

This tutorial isn't as thorough or as beginner-friendly as I would like, so if you have any questions or anything is unclear, be sure to let me know, and I'll add on to it a bit. Cheesy


Ok, anyone know if i can do this with 3ds max 10?
49  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 29, 2011, 04:50:06 PM
Hey, uh....BJ?

I LOVE YOU



no homo

Seriously dude, this is frigging schmexy.

One suggestion for the next update:
Import an image file as a background. Then it would be even better den this....deffinatley.

You r da bee'z neez! lol.

EDIT: And model merging. I plan on making this into a Trophy eventually.
50  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 28, 2011, 07:46:46 PM
Hey, BJ, idk if this is a bug or not, but the data for objects, bones, textures, and animations only work with the first model listed in the .pac file. It doesnt show the data for the 2nd model, and if u click on the second model's animations, it attempts to play them for model 1. (in the previewer.)
51  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Brawlbox v0.64d Released, go test stuff. on: August 28, 2011, 06:56:25 PM
Ah, I see. Never heard of that one. I was thinkin' of that company that does XSI tutorials.

Thanks, I've been trying to improve Laugh
Still haven't gotten around to posting it on a new  thread, but you know it's been posted here already right? If ya have anything you think I should add to it, let me know.

Oh, alright lol. Thanx a bunch for it, i found it by going to your recent posts Cheesy

and WOW thread ASPLODED!
52  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: Request from Mario Kart Wii hacking community on: August 28, 2011, 04:39:16 PM
Let us handle that Tongue

If you say so. Just think about what I said before.
53  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: I have a propositional question on: August 28, 2011, 04:38:18 PM
added KMY and XMODEL...

XX... you can change your vote Smiley

Nice!

How do i change it?
54  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Attacks and Animations / Re: xxmasal22xx's X-treme Abyss - *NEW POLL ADDED* on: August 27, 2011, 03:46:00 PM
HOLY CRUD I forgot this T^T I've been caught up with life, the samus textures, and some other stuff.. But I promise I'll get to them this Saturday. I PROMISE! I'm so so so so so sorry! T-T

LOL Dont worry about it, i completely understand.

Ha ha ha! Xzedkiel, don't worry, take your time, I'm sure xxmasal22 can understand your situation better than anyone!

Anyway, good luck for the size mod, because from what I've heard, it can take quite some time.

PHILIA YOU'RE ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I havent seen you online for like 2 months! But yea, i think i understand more than most people here. BTW guys, Roo quit, leaving me with no animator, yet again.....I PM'd Tormod asking if he had any time at all to help me out a bit, and im currently awaiting a response. Heres to hoping he can manage it! Smiley
55  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Testing model rebuilder for errors. on: August 27, 2011, 03:35:10 PM
YOU'RE BACK!

Anything new with the rigging tut?

^Looks at Justin712's siggy. Clicks link. [censored]s pants. WOW. Impressed. Satisfied by a link.
56  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: Request from Mario Kart Wii hacking community on: August 27, 2011, 03:30:15 PM
Also, vertex editing would most likely impact MKWii hacking immensely. Again, we can import the MDL0s, but it would need a different program to get them back.

Too little verticies for vertexing the Mario Kart Wii models.

Another thing that concerns me. Who exactly would you be putting into Mario Kart Wii? besides maybe the Koopalings? Kirby? Hell, MAYBE even Pikachu, but then you have to think about how a brawl model would look in the world of Mario Kart Wii.

Imagine a 16-bit Mario running around in an 8-bit Luigi's Mansion. Dont you see an issue with that? It wouldnt look right basically.
57  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Testing model rebuilder for errors. on: August 27, 2011, 02:55:39 PM
Hey, I was wondering where you went. Good to know there's one more person I know I'll be helping Awesome Face

See? Told ya! lol
58  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: Old Brawlbox... on: August 27, 2011, 02:47:39 PM
Brawlbox Modset 4.2.rar, courtesy of xxmasal22xx:
http://www.mediafire.com/?nr1jo7kiknc4gtv
59  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Programming / Re: DAE to MDL0 Conversion: Testing model rebuilder for errors. on: August 27, 2011, 02:45:44 PM
hey, glad to see you guys are still working on that.
I kinda got out of the brawl hacking loop for a while, but you have all my support.
(damn that's one useless post but w/e)

Far from useless, im sure BJ appreciates the extra morale Smiley
60  Super Smash Bros. Brawl Hacking / Attacks and Animations / Re: Tales Of Symphonia Link! on: August 27, 2011, 02:43:11 PM
I was thinking about how the different characters have their own versions of shining bind or judgement.

the funniest one being colletes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJz3-9K20zY

I'm wondering if link could try to cast shining bind, then like, mess it up and do judgement by accident XD for the FS I mean


Make it so that he tries to cast shining bind, and if an opponent hits hit while hes casting it, he messes up and accidentally does judgement. Waddaya think?  AWESOME 2.0!
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