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    « on: August 05, 2010, 10:55:24 AM »


    I have recently been trying to get Zack (form zack and wiki) working as a brawl character. His model works ingame, however, his bones are not named the same way as in brawl, and thus he stays in his T-stance

    I noticed that the bones aren't even grouped the same way.

    So, some questions:

    1. Can I rename the bones without brawl crashing (I haven't tried renaming, so I'd like to know beforehand)?
    2. If I DO rename the bones, will he animate correctly with the brawl animations?
    3. Can he go over someone who is not the alloys?
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    « Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 12:03:14 PM »


    1. Yes
    2. yes, but if they are misplaced, it will look misplaced (somebit like move-swapping)
    3. If he has more bones then the character you want to replace, it can

    (correct me if wrong...)
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    « Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 12:05:41 PM »


    1) yes
    2) no (unless you create a new chr0)
    3) yes

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    « Reply #3 on: August 05, 2010, 12:18:06 PM »


    I'm getting conflicted answers on #2
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    « Reply #4 on: August 05, 2010, 12:38:08 PM »


    there is alot of work needed to rename bones

    step1 - all bones renamed Tongue
    step2 - custom chr0 animation
    step3 - PSA edit to include the custom chr0's

    this is ment to include 2 animations as 1
    wait1 - (original)
    wait1(2) - (custom)

    both animations added to the logic (PSA)
    (basically playing 2 animations from 1 command)
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    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2010, 12:41:02 PM »


    So, I'd have to re-animate the model, I couldn't use an existing chr0 animation?
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    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2010, 12:42:22 PM »


    So, I'd have to re-animate the model, I couldn't use an existing chr0 animation?

    you could...
    and just rename the bone values in that...

    but be sure to add them to the logic (PSA)
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    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2010, 12:58:19 PM »


    Yes. I have no idea how to do that.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2010, 01:30:23 PM »


    open the chr0 in Brawlbox
    expand the values of the chr0
    and rename those
    each value is a "bone"
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    « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2010, 01:54:21 PM »


    And how do I "add them to the logic (PSA)"

    I know about PSA, I just have no clue how to use it.
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    « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2010, 02:31:38 PM »


    okay basically you can rename them to work with the characters animations but the animations will make the model look screwed up...
    logically speaking if you kept them all messed up you could have a one slot model replacment just at the cost of having the model looked messed up.
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    « Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »


    You mean stretched?
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    « Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 03:59:32 PM »


    You mean stretched?


    its a little diffrent...
    because brawl animations are i guess backwards compared to regular game animations the model will look strange...
    Dingoberriz has a vid showing how it looks i'll go find it for ya.

    Edit here it is.
    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tl0C-c4Ac" target="_blank" class="aeva_link bbc_link new_win">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3tl0C-c4Ac</a>
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    « Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 05:00:18 PM »


    So it's easy enough but will take a really long time?

    Though I don't think the game I'm using will do that. At least, I don't think it will....
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    « Reply #14 on: August 05, 2010, 05:41:45 PM »


    BB 0.63b lists every keframe you know...
    you don't have to use the forward button to find the end...

    here's what I mean:
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    you have been through a lot of hassle. I've watched every topic you posted on this, and most of them seemed to disintegrate gradually.
    But the coolest part was that you didn't stop working on it despite that.

    Quote: Internet Explorer
    you're doing more with your life right now than probably most other people around you. You're a valuable asset to the Smash community. So yeah, you should be proud.

    quote: Greg
    You do have a gift which I've seen many developers use to their advantage. You can become a great coder, and with all of those ideas I think you can really build something great.

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